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#166 The Importance of Building Childhood Immunity With Nutricia Careline · Dr Justin Coulson's Happy Families

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  Speaker 1: It is very important to establish good eating patterns early
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  Speaker 1: in life so that when you go through the teenage years,
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  Speaker 1: you actually stick with a good diet.
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  Speaker 2: It's the Happy Families podcast. It's the podcast for the
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  Speaker 2: time poor parent who just wants answers.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 3: This stopped Justin Coilson, and I'm here with my wife
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  Speaker 3: and co host, Kylie missus Happy Families.
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  Speaker 2: Today, we're doing something a little bit different. We're talking
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  Speaker 2: especially to parents of toddler's and preschoolers.
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  Speaker 3: So today's bonus episode is brought to you by Aptimal Toddler.
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  Speaker 3: Aptimal Toddler aims to support parents on their mission to
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  Speaker 3: grow strong, healthy kids.
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  Speaker 2: We have a special guest today with us from care Line.
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  Speaker 2: Her name's Sue. Welcome Sue, Hi, Justin and Kylie.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks so much for having me on the show today.
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  Speaker 3: It's great to have you with us, Sue. A lot
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  Speaker 3: of people probably haven't heard of care Line. Can you
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  Speaker 3: tell us a bit about you and also a bit
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  Speaker 3: about CareLine.
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  Speaker 1: Sure. So, I'm a registered nutritionist and I've been working
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  Speaker 1: on the care line for about eight years now, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm also a mum of two active boys. So at
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  Speaker 1: the care Line we support all parents to be and
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  Speaker 1: parents and caregivers, and we support families to feed their
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  Speaker 1: children in a non judgmental way that suits their feeding
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  Speaker 1: choices and their personal circumstances. We have a number of
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  Speaker 1: healthcare professionals at the care line, nutritionists like myself, dieticians
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  Speaker 1: and midwives, so we have plenty of advice that we
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  Speaker 1: can give from our own experience as well as our
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  Speaker 1: professional experience as well.
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  Speaker 3: So it's about helping parents to feed their kids, to
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  Speaker 3: make sure that they're getting the nutrition and the health
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  Speaker 3: that they need.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely. Yeah, at the care line, we're passionate about having
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  Speaker 1: the right diet and the right lifestyle before conception, during pregnancy,
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  Speaker 1: after birth, and through the child's early life the first
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  Speaker 1: one thousand days, so that we can set kids up
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  Speaker 1: for optimal health and really good immunity later in life.
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  Speaker 2: What I love about that is just this non judgmental
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  Speaker 2: space that parents can go to to find support.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because how many parents are like, my kids aren't
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  Speaker 3: eating or you know, everybody's got an opinion about what
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  Speaker 3: you're supposed to be doing. It's nice to actually have
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  Speaker 3: somebody that you can call.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely get that info.
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  Speaker 2: So, what are the most common questions. You receive a
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  Speaker 2: care line from parents.
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  Speaker 1: So we mostly get questions about how to feed children
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  Speaker 1: and what's the best sort of diet so that they
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  Speaker 1: can stay healthy and have a good immunity. So that's
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  Speaker 1: the sort of questions we get. What can I feed
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  Speaker 1: my kids for good immunity. So the immune system's really
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  Speaker 1: important for us. It acts like a shield for our body,
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  Speaker 1: keeping the harmful things out like bacteria and viruses, but
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  Speaker 1: also allowing the good things in, like healthy foods that
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  Speaker 1: we eat, and the immune system needs to be able
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  Speaker 1: to recognize and react appropriately to those good and bad
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  Speaker 1: things it encounters. So, for example, a food allergy is
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  Speaker 1: when the immune system incorrectly identifies a good food as
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  Speaker 1: a harmful thing and then it reacts to it. So
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  Speaker 1: if we have a good immunity, it means that the
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  Speaker 1: body is able to fight off infections. You get less cold,
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  Speaker 1: and when kids do get sick, it's not as severe
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  Speaker 1: and I'll recover more quickly.
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  Speaker 3: So this is really interesting to me because I always
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  Speaker 3: just had this idea and parents usually come to me
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  Speaker 3: and they're.
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  Speaker 4: Like, I just I need my kids to eat.
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  Speaker 3: But you're sort of highlighting that eating is important, not
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  Speaker 3: just for growth, but this idea of immunity, this idea
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  Speaker 3: that the body is going to flourish and thrive if
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  Speaker 3: it can develop immunity to things that are otherwise going
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  Speaker 3: to deplete it and diminish it. Absolutely, I'm just sort
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  Speaker 3: of extending this immunity idea a little bit based on
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  Speaker 3: what you've just said, and what I'm thinking is immunity
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  Speaker 3: is not just about nutrition. It's about all sorts of
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  Speaker 3: other things, like if you get enough sleep, you're going
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  Speaker 3: to build up your immunity, if you are physically active.
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  Speaker 3: You said you've got a couple of growing, active boys.
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  Speaker 3: We've got six daughters, and we know how important those
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  Speaker 3: lifestyle factors, like not just the food or the nutrition
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  Speaker 3: that's going into your body, but also the way you're
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  Speaker 3: moving your body, what you're doing with it. That's how
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  Speaker 3: we help to build healthy, happy children as well.
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  Speaker 1: Right, absolutely, Yeah, it's not just diet, it's all those
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  Speaker 1: other things as well. But I'm being a nutritionist of course,
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  Speaker 1: I'm most interested in the diet side of things. And
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  Speaker 1: if you do have a good diet, that will certainly
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  Speaker 1: set you up for a good immune system. So plenty
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  Speaker 1: of fresh fruit and vegetables, lean meats, and low fat
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  Speaker 1: dairy foods are really important to give the fiber and
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  Speaker 1: the vitamins and minerals that the immune system needs. Your
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  Speaker 1: fruit and vegetables actually provide a prebiotics, which are fruit fibers,
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  Speaker 1: and they actually help the good bacteria and you to grow.
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  Speaker 1: Something else that's quite good too is letting your kids
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  Speaker 1: play outside, give in the dirt and play in puddles,
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  Speaker 1: play with the dog and the cat, and give give
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  Speaker 1: them a cuddle and play with their peers as well.
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  Speaker 1: This exposes them just to really small amounts of common
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  Speaker 1: bacteria to.
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  Speaker 4: Gems right them. Let the kids get a bit dreamy. Yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 4: I like that absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I I've noticed over the years, so we've had a
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  Speaker 2: couple of friends in particular who are a really you know,
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  Speaker 2: kind of germ phobic, I'm going to suggest. And their
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  Speaker 2: house is immaculate and disinfected on every surface.
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  Speaker 4: And I've got to say, I do like that.
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  Speaker 2: I do too, And I do enjoy walking into their
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  Speaker 2: house because it smells amazing and clean.
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  Speaker 4: It doesn't smell like ours, is what you're saying.
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  Speaker 2: But their kids are always sick. Like all, there's always
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  Speaker 2: a tummy bug. There's always a cough or a sneeze,
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  Speaker 2: like they're just sick all the time.
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  Speaker 1: So in order for the immune system to actually recognize
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  Speaker 1: what's good and bad, it does actually need a bit
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  Speaker 1: of exposure to those things. And if we get exposure
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  Speaker 1: in small amounts of those common bacteria, then it kick
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  Speaker 1: starts the immune system so it's prepared for when it
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  Speaker 1: gets larger amounts of those sorts of bacterias later on,
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  Speaker 1: and then it can actually work effectively.
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  Speaker 4: So play with the dog, but don't lick the dog.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, well, it seems that our kids have had quite
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  Speaker 2: a lot of exposure to jams. We're doing all right there.
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  Speaker 2: A happy family doesn't just happen.
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  Speaker 3: Details at happy families dot com dot au. It's the
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  Speaker 3: Happy Families podcast, the podcast for the time poor parent
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  Speaker 3: who just wants answers now. So I'm fascinated by this
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  Speaker 3: whole micro iome thing, and I think that's got to
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  Speaker 3: do with this gut health stuff.
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  Speaker 4: I've read a little bit about it.
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  Speaker 3: It's not my area, right, psychology is my area, But
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  Speaker 3: I'm fascinated with health. I'm really really enjoying this discussion
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  Speaker 3: of immunity, and I'm really intrigued by this conversation about
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  Speaker 3: gut health. So I don't know a whole lot about it.
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  Speaker 3: What should I know? Especially if I'm the parent of
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  Speaker 3: a little one? Is there anything beyond what you've just
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  Speaker 3: said that you could sort of add to explain? I mean,
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  Speaker 3: some people who are listening might not even know what
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  Speaker 3: the biome is.
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  Speaker 4: This micro biome thing. Can you elaborate on that a
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  Speaker 4: little bit?
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  Speaker 1: So, our gut is the starting point for our immune system,
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  Speaker 1: and actually about seventy to eighty percent of all our
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  Speaker 1: immune cells are found in the gut. And if you've
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  Speaker 1: got a really good variety and a good amount of
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  Speaker 1: the good bacteria in your gut, then your immune system's
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  Speaker 1: going to work well. Right, So the good bacteria in
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  Speaker 1: our gut fights off the bad that's also in our gut,
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  Speaker 1: and the more good bacteria you've got, the better your
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  Speaker 1: immune system works. And foods that promote the increased growth
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  Speaker 1: of that bacteria, which are prebiotics that I talked a
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  Speaker 1: little bit about before. They come from your fruit and
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  Speaker 1: vegetable fibers that you're eating in your diet, So it
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  Speaker 1: is really important that you eat lots of good fruits
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  Speaker 1: and vegetables so that you can grow that good bacteria
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  Speaker 1: in your gut and keep it all nice and healthy.
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  Speaker 3: Basically, so, I thought we were going to be having
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  Speaker 3: a conversation about preschools and toddlers, but this is just
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  Speaker 3: as applicable for us as grown ups.
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  Speaker 4: It's just as applicable for our teenagers.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely key that you have a healthy diet throughout life,
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  Speaker 1: but it is also very important to establish good eating
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  Speaker 1: patterns early in life so that when you go through
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  Speaker 1: the teenage years and then out through to the adult years,
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  Speaker 1: you actually stick with a good diet rather than having
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  Speaker 1: a bad diet for the rest of your life.
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  Speaker 2: What tips would you give to parents of children who
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  Speaker 2: just are not going to eat those healthy foods? You know,
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  Speaker 2: when we say delicious and nutritious, our kids kind of
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  Speaker 2: look the other.
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  Speaker 4: Are selling this food to me.
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  Speaker 1: There's lots of things you can do, but the thing
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  Speaker 1: I find is the most important is that you need
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  Speaker 1: to give kids lots of variety of foods and give
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  Speaker 1: them to them in a lot of different ways, so
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  Speaker 1: they might not like a food raw, but they might
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  Speaker 1: like it cooked. For example. So I've got an example
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  Speaker 1: here of carrots, really good food with vitamin A, good
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  Speaker 1: for our immune system. The carrots can be eaten raw.
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  Speaker 1: You can slice them, make them into sticks. You can
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  Speaker 1: grate it. You can steam carrots and have slices or sticks.
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  Speaker 1: You can mash carrots on their own, or add them
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  Speaker 1: to other vegetables like parsnip, potato or sweet potato. You
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  Speaker 1: can stir fry carrots with other vegetables. You can grate
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  Speaker 1: them into mint curries, catholes, or you can grab a
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  Speaker 1: nice carrot stick and dip it into a healthy dip
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  Speaker 1: like hummus or a yogurt dip. So lots of variety
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  Speaker 1: of how you give these foods to kids will help
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  Speaker 1: them to accept the food. One thing that some people
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  Speaker 1: don't realize is that small children actually can need about
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  Speaker 1: ten times before they will actually accept a food. So
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  Speaker 1: you've got to offer it ten times before they accept it.
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  Speaker 3: Not necessarily ten times in the same ten seconds. I
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  Speaker 3: was still laughing about the carrot thing because we've got
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  Speaker 3: our two youngest of our six girls. One of them
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  Speaker 3: users to eat carrots unless they're raw. She will not
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  Speaker 3: eat them talked in any way at all. So we'll
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  Speaker 3: sit down and we'll have our veges and every now
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  Speaker 3: and there and we've got some steam carrots or some
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  Speaker 3: stir fried carrots or whatever, and she just goes to
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  Speaker 3: the fridge and pols carry.
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  Speaker 4: Out and has that.
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  Speaker 3: But our youngest she's making me mash the carrot into
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  Speaker 3: her potatoes. So I've got to do mashed potato for
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  Speaker 3: everyone else. And then I mash up a carrot and
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  Speaker 3: stick it into her potato. That's the only way she'll
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  Speaker 3: eat the carrot is mashed.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, who eats mash carrot? But just laughing when
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  Speaker 4: you were saying, I'm like, this is so real.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, and it doesn't matter how they eat it, just
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  Speaker 1: as long as they're eating it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's exactly right. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: As a mum. Yeah, we have some challenges with us,
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  Speaker 4: didn't we.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely great stuff. Well, so really appreciate your time.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you so much for engaging with us and talking
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  Speaker 3: to us about how we can help our little ones
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  Speaker 3: to get adequate and good quality nutrition.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks Justin then, Kylie, it's been a pleasure.
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