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- 0:00Speaker 1: It's gonna sound rick. Good morning, folks.
- 0:03Speaker 2: Good morning everyone, Good morning, it's some time.
- 0:06Speaker 3: Good morning, hush, pleads and gentlemen, ladies and gentleman.
- 0:10Speaker 4: Introducing six one guard from Brighton, Illinois and former high
- 0:16Speaker 4: school basketball stand What in the hell does that mean?
- 0:20Speaker 3: Jumped any conclusions? No, not a god, You've got to
- 0:23Speaker 3: lower lower your expectations.
- 0:25Speaker 4: Hard to believe you could once send a fastball to Pluto.
- 0:29Speaker 5: I'm getting some Bucky jacobs and vibes and former I'll
- 0:33Speaker 5: just openly admit I'm a fat, out of shaped ex athlete.
- 0:36Speaker 3: Now there's been a noticeable spike in your blood pressure.
- 0:39Speaker 4: Five seven guard and a former college water polo national
- 0:42Speaker 4: chimpion and a lot.
- 0:43Speaker 6: Of useless crap up here.
- 0:45Speaker 4: Wow, this is Chuck and Buck in the Morning with
- 0:49Speaker 4: Ashley Ryan. Talk to you, Buy to Lato Casino Resort
- 0:53Speaker 4: and quil Sea Creek draft KINI sports book where the
- 0:56Speaker 4: action never stopped.
- 1:14Speaker 3: Hey, good morning to you. Welcome into the Tuesday radio
- 1:18Speaker 3: program that is Chucking Back in the Morning Sports Radio
- 1:20Speaker 3: ninety three point three KJRFM. Ashley Ryan is here, Former
- 1:24Speaker 3: Mariner Bucky Jacobson is here. My name is Chuck Powell.
- 1:27Speaker 3: And man the new coffee maker. So I mentioned yesterday
- 1:31Speaker 3: number one's got me amped up. I've been already did
- 1:34Speaker 3: a show with Bucky before we even came on the airways.
- 1:37Speaker 3: So sorry about That's all right, I know usually there's
- 1:39Speaker 3: some quiet, but I can't help it. I'm all juiced up.
- 1:42Speaker 3: I'm all jacked up. And then secondarily, I had one
- 1:46Speaker 3: more thing to think about this morning, as I had
- 1:49Speaker 3: to throw the grounds away and the new coffee maker,
- 1:51Speaker 3: and that caused me to forget my past. So Bucky
- 1:54Speaker 3: had to save me downstairs. It just happens there. It's
- 1:57Speaker 3: like clockwork.
- 1:58Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:58Speaker 5: Yeah, you can have what is it, three things? Four
- 2:00Speaker 5: things you can remember?
- 2:01Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, four things I can remember.
- 2:03Speaker 5: If there's five, yeah, something's got to get pushed out
- 2:06Speaker 5: of here.
- 2:07Speaker 6: Just put your pass like in your bag when you
- 2:09Speaker 6: get home.
- 2:09Speaker 3: Uh why would I?
- 2:11Speaker 6: Okay, it's a perfectly good system.
- 2:14Speaker 3: I have it right there at the front. It's right there,
- 2:16Speaker 3: right there. Everything in the drawer is right there, in
- 2:18Speaker 3: the exact same place. Okay, yeah, otherwise I'll forget the bag.
- 2:22Speaker 5: Oh yeah, well that would be.
- 2:25Speaker 1: Two for one.
- 2:26Speaker 3: Yeah exactly, yeah exactly. I mean I half I started
- 2:30Speaker 3: halfway to work, and I'm like, I forgot my car.
- 2:33Speaker 3: Oh then I just started walking. Yeah, and I had
- 2:36Speaker 3: to go all the way back.
- 2:37Speaker 7: So if you if I had ignore my idea, then
- 2:40Speaker 7: that was dumb.
- 2:41Speaker 3: I had one more thing. It just throws me off.
- 2:43Speaker 3: Every single week.
- 2:44Speaker 6: I was trying to take a thing away from you.
- 2:46Speaker 3: No, no, I just forget something else. It's a it's
- 2:50Speaker 3: a mostly perfect system.
- 2:52Speaker 1: Yeah, time the time.
- 2:57Speaker 6: That's right there, you go, all right, well, well come
- 3:00Speaker 6: to the show.
- 3:01Speaker 3: It is a Tuesday. We've got our normal Tuesday lineup
- 3:06Speaker 3: coming up, which we'll outline for you here in a
- 3:08Speaker 3: little bit with what's on tap, and of course in
- 3:12Speaker 3: every single crack that there is, we will talk about
- 3:15Speaker 3: the big topic of the week, and that is the
- 3:17Speaker 3: Seahawks and the Rams Thursday Night Football this year. As
- 3:21Speaker 3: I mentioned frequently, we typically on Hump Day start previewing
- 3:26Speaker 3: the next opponent, but on a short week, Thursday Night
- 3:30Speaker 3: Football week, we always start on Tuesday. Well, guess what
- 3:34Speaker 3: we're already underway. We got started yesterday with this game,
- 3:38Speaker 3: this game of the year, Seahawks hosting the Rams Thursday
- 3:41Speaker 3: Night Football got the entire national platform to ourselves only
- 3:46Speaker 3: game going and it is the biggest game certainly of
- 3:50Speaker 3: the year so far. Doesn't mean it will end up
- 3:52Speaker 3: being the biggest game of the year because there are
- 3:54Speaker 3: a couple of others on the schedule before the regular
- 3:57Speaker 3: season comes to a close. But undoubted this is the biggie,
- 4:01Speaker 3: and so we dive in full full, with full hearts
- 4:05Speaker 3: and full breaths, We're gonna dive into this sucker here today.
- 4:10Speaker 5: There's not a lot that else we probably can talk about.
- 4:13Speaker 5: I mean, simply, there's so much hanging in the balance.
- 4:16Speaker 5: I mean, the end of the game Thursday night, you're
- 4:18Speaker 5: either going to be first place in the division and
- 4:21Speaker 5: first place overall in the NFC, or you're not. And
- 4:25Speaker 5: I mean it's crazy to be sitting at eleven and
- 4:27Speaker 5: three and still have a chance, I mean, in a
- 4:29Speaker 5: very outside slim chance of not making the playoffs. But
- 4:32Speaker 5: I mean the fact that you haven't clinched at this
- 4:34Speaker 5: point in time and you got three games left to go.
- 4:36Speaker 5: One is a big one at home this Thursday against
- 4:39Speaker 5: your the team that you're chasing down because they beat
- 4:42Speaker 5: you in your first head to head. Yeah, a lot
- 4:44Speaker 5: riding on this one, I mean, without a doubt, a
- 4:46Speaker 5: lot riding on this one.
- 4:47Speaker 3: Yeah, and just fantastic matchup two healthy teams. You pointed
- 4:52Speaker 3: this out yesterday, but the Rams right now are considered
- 4:56Speaker 3: the favorites to win the Super Bowl by Vegas and
- 4:58Speaker 3: number two on that list the Seattle Seahawks. I think
- 5:02Speaker 3: the Seahawks certainly more surprising from that perspective when you
- 5:06Speaker 3: think back to the beginning of the year, and nobody
- 5:09Speaker 3: thought that this. Nobody nationally thought the Seahawks team was
- 5:13Speaker 3: going to be a playoff team.
- 5:15Speaker 6: We're gonna get like six wins.
- 5:17Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, at least very few. I wouldn't say nobody,
- 5:21Speaker 3: because that's not true, but very few people. Vegas certainly
- 5:25Speaker 3: had them less than what a lot of us thought
- 5:28Speaker 3: they were capable of. And here they are putting themselves
- 5:31Speaker 3: in a position to possibly end up with a number
- 5:34Speaker 3: one seed. But as beautiful as this game and sports
- 5:38Speaker 3: can be at times, they also could be left on
- 5:41Speaker 3: the outside looking in. There's still a chance this team
- 5:43Speaker 3: doesn't even make the playoffs at all. They've not clinched.
- 5:47Speaker 3: They can on Thursday, they can at least clinch a
- 5:49Speaker 3: playoff spot. But to sit here with three games left
- 5:52Speaker 3: in the season and at eleven and three and you're
- 5:55Speaker 3: still not guaranteed a spot in the playoffs. That's unnerving.
- 5:59Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the part that's kind of crazy, I mean,
- 6:02Speaker 5: And yet I mean there's a top heavy version of
- 6:04Speaker 5: it where I mean, I don't think anybody here would
- 6:07Speaker 5: would rather be, you know, ten and four or nine
- 6:11Speaker 5: and five and have a spot clinched up already, like
- 6:14Speaker 5: being a weak division necessarily, but because this gives you
- 6:17Speaker 5: the opportunity to get that coveted first round by if
- 6:21Speaker 5: you can figure out a way to be the number
- 6:23Speaker 5: one team.
- 6:23Speaker 1: So you're you like where you're sitting.
- 6:25Speaker 5: It's just that your division is tough with the you know,
- 6:28Speaker 5: the Niners and Rams being in there, both playing well
- 6:31Speaker 5: pretty much for the entire season, so you're still fighting
- 6:34Speaker 5: for something on the small scale. But really it kind
- 6:37Speaker 5: of feels like the overall winner of this division is
- 6:40Speaker 5: going to be the number one seed going into the playoffs.
- 6:43Speaker 5: And that's a big that's a big deal in today's
- 6:45Speaker 5: day and game, where there's so much riding on how
- 6:48Speaker 5: healthy are you.
- 6:49Speaker 1: You don't want you want to get hot at the.
- 6:50Speaker 5: Right time, that whole thing, but but you also need
- 6:53Speaker 5: to stay healthy and having a week off when it's
- 6:56Speaker 5: not two teams anymore, it's just the one team in
- 6:58Speaker 5: each conference gets that buy. That's a big deal to
- 7:01Speaker 5: get rested up and prepare for whoever it is you
- 7:03Speaker 5: got coming in and then home field advantage to do
- 7:05Speaker 5: the whole thing. It's a big deal. So, I mean,
- 7:08Speaker 5: this is one where I would I think that everybody
- 7:11Speaker 5: over there in Renton stays up late and does a
- 7:13Speaker 5: lot of their homework. But I bet you either doing
- 7:14Speaker 5: a little bit extra this week.
- 7:16Speaker 3: Let's get it on the Rams, certainly on fire themselves.
- 7:21Speaker 3: But they might be without Davonte Adams for this game.
- 7:24Speaker 3: Sean McVeigh said as recently as yesterday, it's really it's
- 7:29Speaker 3: kind of hard to believe that he will be ready
- 7:31Speaker 3: after injuring his hamstring at the end of the game.
- 7:35Speaker 3: Yet on Sunday that DeVante Adams could be ready for this,
- 7:38Speaker 3: So that will be something in the Seahawks corner that
- 7:43Speaker 3: gives them a little bit of an advantage. Adams and
- 7:45Speaker 3: Nakua make quite the team, but let's face it. I mean,
- 7:48Speaker 3: this is something that came up yesterday in our conversation
- 7:50Speaker 3: with coach and Hugh. This team's settling for an awful
- 7:54Speaker 3: lot of field goals, and even though Jason Myers has
- 7:59Speaker 3: turned into the most reliable kicker in the National Football League,
- 8:02Speaker 3: and that's a great thing to have in your corner
- 8:04Speaker 3: as well. Truth of the matter is, and maybe not
- 8:07Speaker 3: to the degree Greg Olsen talks about it, but you
- 8:10Speaker 3: can't make a living in this league, you can't win
- 8:13Speaker 3: Super Bowls in this league constantly settling for field goals.
- 8:16Speaker 3: So that's an issue lately has been confronting this team,
- 8:20Speaker 3: and maybe even bigger than that. I mean, you got
- 8:23Speaker 3: away with it against the Vikings, you got away with
- 8:25Speaker 3: it against the Falcons. They really I don't think have
- 8:29Speaker 3: played well since this is strange to say, lost to
- 8:32Speaker 3: the Rams. Played a bit of a sloppy game against
- 8:34Speaker 3: the Titans, certainly did not play four quarters against Minnesota,
- 8:38Speaker 3: Certainly did not play four quarters against Atlanta. And then
- 8:41Speaker 3: the Colts felt to me like something was missing there
- 8:46Speaker 3: as well, which maybe we'll talk about a little bit
- 8:48Speaker 3: later on in this hour. But you better play four
- 8:51Speaker 3: quarters against the Rams. This is not a playground in
- 8:55Speaker 3: which you can just decide to join the game whenever
- 8:58Speaker 3: you feel like it. Better be firing on all cylinders
- 9:02Speaker 3: from the get go. Because I don't think you're digging
- 9:05Speaker 3: out of some big hole or you might create for
- 9:08Speaker 3: yourself a big hole against the Los Angeles Rams.
- 9:11Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think the I you know, like
- 9:14Speaker 5: the Minnesota game, for example, you knew you were going
- 9:16Speaker 5: against a rookie that you know, where do you played
- 9:19Speaker 5: New Hampshire or something?
- 9:20Speaker 3: I mean Minnesota?
- 9:21Speaker 5: Minnesota Hampshire before that?
- 9:24Speaker 3: What an insult to the golden culture?
- 9:26Speaker 8: Right?
- 9:26Speaker 5: I think he was with New Hampshire before he went
- 9:28Speaker 5: to Minnesota. Regardless, you kind of felt like, similar to
- 9:32Speaker 5: last week, which I don't know for sure. Last week,
- 9:35Speaker 5: they maybe overthought that where Okay, they're coming in here
- 9:38Speaker 5: with a forty four year old. In that case, they're
- 9:40Speaker 5: coming in with this rookie has no experience, they're gonna
- 9:43Speaker 5: have hard time getting any points on us, and so
- 9:46Speaker 5: it we're going to be really conservative, right, and then
- 9:48Speaker 5: as all of a sudden the scores start to mount,
- 9:50Speaker 5: you're giving up nothing against Minnesota, right, you end up
- 9:52Speaker 5: shutting them out that it's kind of okay, it's okay
- 9:55Speaker 5: to be less than offensively throughout the course of that game.
- 9:59Speaker 1: That the Tennessee game was.
- 10:01Speaker 5: One, if I remember correctly, where they kind of got
- 10:03Speaker 5: out to lead, and then all of a sudden they
- 10:05Speaker 5: were within an on side kick of making it kind
- 10:09Speaker 5: of scary. And so I think that there's situations where
- 10:13Speaker 5: the score doesn't always dictate it, but there's no ifens or.
- 10:15Speaker 5: But you can't the last three games, I'm just looking
- 10:18Speaker 5: at a stat here. The only teams that are worse
- 10:20Speaker 5: in the first half as far as scoring points is
- 10:23Speaker 5: the New Orleans Saints, Las Vegas Raiders, Arizona Cardinals, and
- 10:26Speaker 5: the New York Jets. What in the last three games
- 10:29Speaker 5: on the first half? Okay, got it. So they're slow starts. Yeah,
- 10:33Speaker 5: they're down there with Cleveland. They're tied with Cleveland. So
- 10:36Speaker 5: that's I don't know if that's good if you want
- 10:39Speaker 5: to be tied with them for anything. So you're just
- 10:41Speaker 5: talking about that, you're not playing two halves. You're playing
- 10:45Speaker 5: mediocre first half and then you're figuring out a way
- 10:48Speaker 5: and if you score thirty one points in the second half, hey,
- 10:50Speaker 5: that's going to work out often. But there's other times
- 10:52Speaker 5: where you're not going to do that. You can't expect
- 10:55Speaker 5: that you're going to go out and score six points
- 10:57Speaker 5: or three points in the first half. Against the Rams
- 10:59Speaker 5: on Thursday, and then you're just gonna explode for thirty one.
- 11:02Speaker 5: And yet on the flip side of it, you know
- 11:04Speaker 5: you're probably not gonna give up enough to You're not
- 11:06Speaker 5: probably not going to give up enough to anybody to
- 11:08Speaker 5: where you're gonna need to do that. But you better
- 11:10Speaker 5: damn well think you better. You better recognize you got
- 11:12Speaker 5: to go out there and play two four full quarters
- 11:14Speaker 5: of football otherwise you're gonna find yourself behind. And now
- 11:17Speaker 5: all of a sudden they're in control of do we
- 11:20Speaker 5: just run and take the air out of the ball
- 11:22Speaker 5: or do we then kind of pop one on you
- 11:24Speaker 5: when all of a sudden you think that you're all
- 11:26Speaker 5: sold out and stopping the run because you think we're
- 11:28Speaker 5: just trying to run out the clock. It's not a
- 11:29Speaker 5: good situation to be in. And they've they've overcome it
- 11:32Speaker 5: and they're winning. They're winning all these games, so that's
- 11:35Speaker 5: what matters. But yeah, in order to do it against
- 11:37Speaker 5: the good teams, you're gonna have to play the whole game.
- 11:38Speaker 7: I do wonder if especially, I know these guys are
- 11:42Speaker 7: professionals and so the chances of this are probably very slim.
- 11:45Speaker 7: But after the last time they played the Rams, they said,
- 11:48Speaker 7: you know, we can't wait for that next matchup.
- 11:50Speaker 6: This game is circled on our calendar.
- 11:52Speaker 7: And I wonder if, knowing it was a short week
- 11:55Speaker 7: going into the Colts game, if there was any thought
- 11:59Speaker 7: of we're playing Philip River's a guy that hasn't played
- 12:01Speaker 7: in five years, and you know, this game is kind
- 12:05Speaker 7: of our warm up for Thursday. I just wonder if
- 12:08Speaker 7: there was any part of them that was somewhat overlooking
- 12:11Speaker 7: the Colts prepared to because they're so eager for this
- 12:14Speaker 7: game on Thursday.
- 12:15Speaker 3: Not outwardly, it's not spoken. Yeah, I mean, nobody's saying
- 12:18Speaker 3: that in the building, like, hey, it's a forty four
- 12:21Speaker 3: year old quarterback. We got this one, as long as
- 12:23Speaker 3: we don't do blah blah blah blah blah. But that's
- 12:27Speaker 3: the psychology of sports, and as much as we talk
- 12:31Speaker 3: about it, because it is so subjective, it is such
- 12:33Speaker 3: an unknown thing. It's not a tangible aspect that we
- 12:37Speaker 3: can point to a statistic. It's the wild card. And
- 12:41Speaker 3: some people believe and you know, maybe we go beat
- 12:45Speaker 3: too much in sports talk radio, particularly talking about the
- 12:48Speaker 3: psychology of things and what this game means and what
- 12:51Speaker 3: that game means versus just the x'es and o's and
- 12:54Speaker 3: the Jimmys and the jos. I would argue, we don't
- 12:58Speaker 3: talk about it enough. We don't dress the psychology of
- 13:01Speaker 3: sports nearly enough because it's monstrous. And I will tell
- 13:04Speaker 3: you I think in the second half they did feel
- 13:07Speaker 3: like the game with Tennessee was over and the next
- 13:09Speaker 3: thing you know, you have a game. And then against
- 13:11Speaker 3: Minnesota and Atlanta, I would imagine they felt like, we've
- 13:15Speaker 3: got this one and took them about a half for
- 13:18Speaker 3: Mike McDonald to get on their ass and kind of
- 13:21Speaker 3: figure things out. And they're they're not doing it intentionally, no,
- 13:25Speaker 3: and I don't think they are, yeah, but but subconsciously, yes,
- 13:28Speaker 3: that does play. I think they played against Philip Rivers.
- 13:32Speaker 3: I pointed this out a couple of times. I think
- 13:34Speaker 3: that they played against Philip Rivers like you know, you
- 13:38Speaker 3: might have when you were in high school and you
- 13:41Speaker 3: were a high school athlete and you're playing your uncle
- 13:45Speaker 3: Joe in the backyard in a game of one on
- 13:47Speaker 3: one basketball and the next thing you know, he's up,
- 13:51Speaker 3: you know, he's up on you, s to h right
- 13:55Speaker 3: and you're like, oh, I better buggle down if I
- 13:59Speaker 3: don't want to face the family embarrassment of losing to
- 14:03Speaker 3: my uncle Joe and his two pay here in the
- 14:06Speaker 3: backyard of this little hoops game that we got, and
- 14:09Speaker 3: then you buckled down. I kind of think there was
- 14:11Speaker 3: an element to that. The good news is is that
- 14:15Speaker 3: if you did face that for four weeks, you went
- 14:17Speaker 3: four and oh yeah. And then the extra good news
- 14:20Speaker 3: about that is there's no way that that interferes with Thursday. Right,
- 14:25Speaker 3: there is no way that you're not firing on all
- 14:28Speaker 3: cylinders all week long, one hundred percent immersed, locked in.
- 14:34Speaker 3: Mike McDonald coaching staff does not have to worry about
- 14:37Speaker 3: that this week. This is as big a regular season
- 14:41Speaker 3: game as has been played in this city in a decade.
- 14:44Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm curious. I mean, I think there's two sides
- 14:47Speaker 5: of the coin.
- 14:48Speaker 1: Right.
- 14:48Speaker 5: We talked about how big games are and the adjustments
- 14:52Speaker 5: that you make, right, I mean, starting out slow is
- 14:54Speaker 5: not great. I mean, I know coach Holmgren was did it,
- 14:57Speaker 5: and he might have been towards the flo front of
- 15:00Speaker 5: when people did it the whole scripted plays. I don't
- 15:02Speaker 5: know when that came about. I mean, I know that
- 15:05Speaker 5: it's been going on for quite some time, but you
- 15:06Speaker 5: just kind of figured it. He invented it. Probably could
- 15:09Speaker 5: just give him the credit for it, even if he didn't.
- 15:11Speaker 5: I think he probably would have invented it if it
- 15:13Speaker 5: hadn't been invented before. But I think he's it's somewhere
- 15:16Speaker 5: around the time when he was coaching, where throughout the
- 15:18Speaker 5: course of the week, you start figuring out, now, the
- 15:21Speaker 5: way we're running these plays in practice, what we're going against.
- 15:24Speaker 5: This is going to work. This this flat out will work.
- 15:27Speaker 5: Now you've got to stay on script, so you can
- 15:28Speaker 5: kind of stick with those with that plan. But that's
- 15:31Speaker 5: something that you don't necessarily see now. On the flip
- 15:34Speaker 5: side of it, Clink Kubiak and Mike Ben done, all
- 15:36Speaker 5: the rest of his coaching staff, whatever they do in
- 15:39Speaker 5: the halftime, besides orange slices and you know, you know,
- 15:43Speaker 5: so getting rehydrated. They've figured out a way to come
- 15:46Speaker 5: out there and play. And the second half is typically
- 15:49Speaker 5: more important than the first half. I mean, you typically
- 15:52Speaker 5: have you know what you have to do at that
- 15:53Speaker 5: point in time. So I mean, I think there's two
- 15:55Speaker 5: different ways to look at it. To me, though, it's
- 15:57Speaker 5: you do have to figure out a way to start
- 15:59Speaker 5: putting up more points early in the game so that
- 16:02Speaker 5: you're not you don't find yourself in this oh my gosh.
- 16:04Speaker 5: I mean, you don't want to have the Rams pinning
- 16:06Speaker 5: their ears back in the third quarter or fourth quarter
- 16:08Speaker 5: because you're down by ten or twelve points. You don't
- 16:11Speaker 5: want that because that could turn into what we've seen,
- 16:14Speaker 5: you know, where if Sam Darnold's rushed, then maybe he's
- 16:17Speaker 5: turning the ball over. So there's a lot that goes
- 16:19Speaker 5: into a division rival, especially the second time you're playing them,
- 16:23Speaker 5: with all the marbles on the table, so to speak.
- 16:25Speaker 1: It's going to be an interesting game.
- 16:27Speaker 5: But I think that there's a whole heck of a
- 16:28Speaker 5: lot of you know, reflection that probably needs to be
- 16:31Speaker 5: done on the offensive side of the ball when it comes.
- 16:32Speaker 3: To so you can argue they're playing their best football
- 16:35Speaker 3: the last time they faced the Rams, and even though
- 16:37Speaker 3: I think they outplayed the Rams, they lost the game.
- 16:39Speaker 3: They're not playing their best football right now. But they
- 16:42Speaker 3: better be playing it by Thursday, because that's what it's
- 16:45Speaker 3: going to require, and not just Thursday. For these last
- 16:48Speaker 3: three games. I mean, I'm very confident you're going to
- 16:51Speaker 3: get one win out of the three and get into
- 16:53Speaker 3: the playoffs. I'm very confident with that. But in order
- 16:57Speaker 3: to get that number one seed, and Bucky highlighted the
- 17:01Speaker 3: magnitude of that earlier in this conversation, you probably got
- 17:05Speaker 3: to win all three of them. So let's go. Let's
- 17:08Speaker 3: get it started this Thursday. Let's find out what's on
- 17:11Speaker 3: tap on this Tuesday program.
- 17:15Speaker 1: What's on TEP, what's on TEP?
- 17:18Speaker 3: All right, Greg Bell will join us at seven o
- 17:20Speaker 3: five today to discuss Rams and Seahawks our Seahawks Insider,
- 17:24Speaker 3: and also should note that Philip Rivers is going to
- 17:28Speaker 3: start again this week for the Colts, this time against
- 17:31Speaker 3: the San Francisco forty nine Ers Monday Night Football. Last night,
- 17:35Speaker 3: the Pittsburgh Steelers defeated the Miami Dolphins twenty eight to fifteen,
- 17:39Speaker 3: and the game really wasn't even that close. Miami continuously
- 17:43Speaker 3: downplays this weather thing. You don't play well in cold weather,
- 17:49Speaker 3: just no period, and it is really surprising that professional
- 17:53Speaker 3: athletes aren't better at preparing for cold weather. Don't shrivel
- 17:57Speaker 3: don't shrivel up like the Miami dolph always do.
- 18:01Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't always do, I really don't. I mean, baseball,
- 18:05Speaker 5: you play with a lot of dudes from that grew
- 18:07Speaker 5: up in islands, Dominican and whatnot, and for some reason,
- 18:10Speaker 5: well not for some reason, it's obvious they don't. They're
- 18:13Speaker 5: not used to it.
- 18:14Speaker 1: Now.
- 18:14Speaker 5: At some point in time, though, you've got to be
- 18:16Speaker 5: able to get over that. You got to be able
- 18:17Speaker 5: to just work through that and that. You're right, the
- 18:19Speaker 5: Miami Dolphins seemed incapable of doing it when it gets.
- 18:21Speaker 7: Coldkay, at some point you might be good and actually
- 18:24Speaker 7: need to win those games in the cold.
- 18:26Speaker 3: Yeah, I would think that would be the goal. I mean,
- 18:31Speaker 3: they were even in the playoffs, they were even a
- 18:33Speaker 3: playoff caliber team. Oh no, it's before forty. Well, we're cooked.
- 18:37Speaker 3: I mean, it's hard to believe that they aren't better
- 18:40Speaker 3: on when the weather is colder as professional athletes. College
- 18:45Speaker 3: Football Playoffs starts this Friday. Alabama and Oklahoma will get
- 18:48Speaker 3: it started Friday. Then there will be three games on Saturday.
- 18:51Speaker 3: So the second ever true college football playoffs starting this Friday.
- 18:56Speaker 3: Transfer portal is filling up fast and with a lot
- 18:58Speaker 3: of big name quarterbacks. Won't dive into that. We won't
- 19:01Speaker 3: have that frenzy until the first week of January, but
- 19:05Speaker 3: it is coming. You dub won a national championship last night.
- 19:10Speaker 3: The soccer team for the Huskies won by a final
- 19:14Speaker 3: score of three to two in overtime over North Carolina State.
- 19:17Speaker 3: Congratulations to them a national championship and they did it
- 19:23Speaker 3: with a golden goal, which is a goal in overtime.
- 19:27Speaker 3: And yet because we have replay now in our sports world,
- 19:31Speaker 3: the celebration was on then subdued because they had to
- 19:35Speaker 3: review it. And some of the analysis I heard was
- 19:40Speaker 3: they were technically off sides. But man, that's a tough
- 19:44Speaker 3: call to make to take a national championship out of
- 19:48Speaker 3: somebody's mouth because one guy's shoe halfway was off sides
- 19:53Speaker 3: and you might have taken away a national championship winning goal.
- 19:58Speaker 3: But they decided to let the old stand and then
- 20:01Speaker 3: the stage two of the celebration started.
- 20:03Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, they would have had to get all
- 20:06Speaker 5: dressed again. I saw the dude that won his shirt off,
- 20:09Speaker 5: just he had an undershure.
- 20:10Speaker 3: You're gonna lose if they take that away. There's no
- 20:12Speaker 3: way you're liking it back up.
- 20:13Speaker 6: Yeah you feel like it, Yeah you can't.
- 20:15Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 20:15Speaker 5: Good for them, though, I mean in NASH Championship, first
- 20:17Speaker 5: time ever for the Huskies to win Anas Championship in
- 20:21Speaker 5: men's soccer, I think, so kudos to them. There's not
- 20:24Speaker 5: a whole heck of a lot of feelings.
- 20:25Speaker 1: You go through a lot.
- 20:26Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know in soccer how much you
- 20:27Speaker 5: do in college, but I'm sure there's a lot of
- 20:29Speaker 5: running which doesn't sound very fun to me. And then
- 20:32Speaker 5: yet at the end of it, it doesn't matter how bad
- 20:34Speaker 5: the prep was. It's worth it when you're voicing the
- 20:36Speaker 5: trophy feeling never cracking.
- 20:38Speaker 3: We'll play the Avalanche tonight. Evert fitzuwill join us at
- 20:41Speaker 3: eight thirty today. It is a cracking ticket Tuesday. Here
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- 21:08Speaker 3: tenth caller and win tickets to that upcoming game. So
- 21:13Speaker 3: Jeene Sterrator at eight o'clock today, Rick new Isle at
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- 21:18Speaker 3: nine point thirty. We got a packed show for you.
- 21:20Speaker 3: And coming up on the other side, what's going on
- 21:23Speaker 3: with that Michigan job. Sports Radio ninety three point three KHARFM. Hey,
- 21:36Speaker 3: good morning, It's Chuck Buck and Ashley with you here
- 21:39Speaker 3: on this Tuesday. Plenty to discuss on today's program as
- 21:43Speaker 3: we get ready for Seahawks rams on Thursday. But there
- 21:47Speaker 3: are some other things as well, which we'll get to
- 21:49Speaker 3: in a moment. That Michigan job is still available. Who
- 21:52Speaker 3: wants to be a Michigan Man. We're going to discuss
- 21:55Speaker 3: how it affects us here in Seattle here in a
- 21:57Speaker 3: little bit. Do you want to let you know though,
- 21:58Speaker 3: that bender that always doing good things? Yeah, yeah, yeah exactly.
- 22:05Speaker 3: It probably like holds doors for people, I'm sure. Yeah,
- 22:11Speaker 3: in real life. Yeah, probably is kind to the elderly, guaranteed.
- 22:18Speaker 3: Weird yeah, weird stuff that guy does. Anyway, he's got
- 22:22Speaker 3: his one big give. He's been doing this for twenty
- 22:25Speaker 3: three years. He's only twenty five years old, but he's
- 22:28Speaker 3: been doing this for twenty three years on the radio.
- 22:31Speaker 3: He may he raises like trillions of dollars for Seattle
- 22:34Speaker 3: Children's Hospital. He's just does an amazing program every year.
- 22:39Speaker 3: And he's got Jody now of course over there at
- 22:43Speaker 3: the Jet doing the same thing. So all day broadcasts
- 22:46Speaker 3: six am to seven pm. It's Bender's one big give
- 22:51Speaker 3: King Neptune himself. It benefits the Uncompensated Care Fund, helping
- 22:56Speaker 3: Seattle Children provide all the necessary care to kids in
- 23:00Speaker 3: our region, regardless of the family's ability to pay. If
- 23:04Speaker 3: you want to get involved eight three three eight five
- 23:06Speaker 3: five zero nine five seven to make a donation, or
- 23:11Speaker 3: you can go to give to the Kids dot com.
- 23:14Speaker 3: So there you go, a lot of great things going on.
- 23:16Speaker 3: Nice job Bender, Jody and everyone with the Jet and
- 23:20Speaker 3: iHeart that is involved with this. Every year, they did
- 23:22Speaker 3: an amazing job raising a lot of money for Seattle
- 23:26Speaker 3: Children's Hospital. All right, let's talk about the Michigan Wolverinees
- 23:31Speaker 3: head coaching position, because until it's filled, I guess we
- 23:34Speaker 3: can never truly relax around here. Jedfish's name has come
- 23:40Speaker 3: up quite a bit, and yet so is Kenny Dillingham's,
- 23:44Speaker 3: and so is Kaylen de Bores. Kaylin de Bor getting
- 23:48Speaker 3: ready for Oklahoma this Friday. It became a major talking point,
- 23:52Speaker 3: and really the one big takeaway from his press conference
- 23:56Speaker 3: yesterday was his response to the Michigan job. He wouldn't
- 24:00Speaker 3: have spent more clear that he is not interested. He
- 24:03Speaker 3: has not reached out to gauge interest, he has not
- 24:05Speaker 3: spoken to anyone. And as soon as he said that,
- 24:09Speaker 3: the question that followed up from the reporter, Hoarde was
- 24:14Speaker 3: all right, just to be clear, you're going to be
- 24:16Speaker 3: Alabama's head coach next season? And he laughed it off,
- 24:20Speaker 3: and he says, yes, I am going to be Alabama's
- 24:22Speaker 3: head coach next season. And that's all fine and dandy
- 24:26Speaker 3: except the fact that he pretty much did that here
- 24:28Speaker 3: not long ago. So it's really hard to believe any
- 24:31Speaker 3: of these coaches until a Michigan, until Michigan announces who
- 24:36Speaker 3: they are going to steal, because they're stealing somebody stealing
- 24:40Speaker 3: somebody's coach from them, So until they actually make it official,
- 24:45Speaker 3: I think anybody with a coaching candidate that has been
- 24:49Speaker 3: rumored wherever there is smoke, you have to be on
- 24:53Speaker 3: guard as to whether or not you're going to lose
- 24:55Speaker 3: your head coach.
- 24:56Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 24:56Speaker 5: Well, I mean the idea of it's not going to
- 24:59Speaker 5: be some guy that's coming from high school. Right, It's
- 25:02Speaker 5: not going to be some guy that's you know, coaching
- 25:04Speaker 5: at like a lower level. And we're you know, Michigan's
- 25:07Speaker 5: going to give him his next shot at you know,
- 25:09Speaker 5: his first shot at coaching the big time college program.
- 25:13Speaker 5: It's going to be somebody you're gonna sniper, somebody that's
- 25:16Speaker 5: doing big things at you know, at the power forward
- 25:19Speaker 5: level for the most part. And so yeah, I mean
- 25:22Speaker 5: I don't take any of the things these coaches say.
- 25:25Speaker 5: I wouldn't write it in pen I most certainly wouldn't
- 25:27Speaker 5: trust anybody.
- 25:28Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's unfortunate, I suppose for all of these
- 25:33Speaker 3: coaches who are trying to recruit or trying to get
- 25:36Speaker 3: ready for a game. But you did a lot of
- 25:38Speaker 3: you you sort of earned this, and then they just
- 25:40Speaker 3: the industry and it's in and of itself, it is
- 25:43Speaker 3: a byproduct of that, and you coaches aren't doing much
- 25:46Speaker 3: to keep it from occurring.
- 25:48Speaker 5: Yeah, one hundred percent. I mean in calen To War,
- 25:49Speaker 5: for example, I mean, he did leave. He left here
- 25:52Speaker 5: after basically, you know, saying all the things that you
- 25:55Speaker 5: want your coach to say, like I'm happy here, this
- 25:57Speaker 5: is you know, I got roots here, my daughter's here,
- 25:59Speaker 5: dream job, dream job. Now, I mean, without throwing shade,
- 26:03Speaker 5: because I'm not intentionally throwing shade. The idea of leaving
- 26:06Speaker 5: here to go to Alabama, which is one of the
- 26:08Speaker 5: most prestigious brands in college football, is different than leaving
- 26:13Speaker 5: Alabama to go to Michigan. Maybe as big, if not bigger.
- 26:16Speaker 5: I mean, the storied history of Michigan. I get that.
- 26:20Speaker 5: That to me, The only thing that would make him
- 26:21Speaker 5: want to switch there is just I'm more of a
- 26:23Speaker 5: big ten guy, you know, I just kind of it
- 26:25Speaker 5: kind of fits my m Michigan's more my style than
- 26:30Speaker 5: Alabama is. But I don't feel like there's a big
- 26:34Speaker 5: you know. It feels more like it would be a
- 26:36Speaker 5: lateral move if anything. As far as your competition, like your.
- 26:39Speaker 3: Well, the reputation of Alabama is that the community makes
- 26:43Speaker 3: your life miserable unless you're winning national championships. And if
- 26:48Speaker 3: and Kaylen de boor knew that, his eyes went wide open.
- 26:51Speaker 3: He his eyes were wide open to that reputation. There's
- 26:54Speaker 3: nobody that follows college football that doesn't know that. And
- 26:57Speaker 3: so if he got there and then was oh wow,
- 27:02Speaker 3: this is what they meant, Oh, this sucks. My wife
- 27:05Speaker 3: hates it. You know, we can't go to the grocery
- 27:08Speaker 3: store without being told we suck. You know, if that
- 27:12Speaker 3: has gotten to him, then maybe a move to the
- 27:16Speaker 3: Midwest where they kind of do, where he's closer to home,
- 27:21Speaker 3: Where he's closer to home. They actually don't make it
- 27:24Speaker 3: everything at mission. It's big, but it's not everything. It's
- 27:28Speaker 3: not every single waking moment from every single fan. Maybe
- 27:32Speaker 3: he would look at that as an escape without diminishing
- 27:36Speaker 3: the stature of the position that I hold or my salary.
- 27:41Speaker 3: Maybe he would, But he made that very clear in
- 27:43Speaker 3: his press conference yesterday that his family's very happy in Alabama,
- 27:48Speaker 3: which was important. He went out of his way to
- 27:50Speaker 3: say that. As for Jedfish, you know, he sort of
- 27:53Speaker 3: earned this reputation as well. I don't hear his name
- 27:56Speaker 3: mentioned as prominently as it was initially. It kind of
- 28:00Speaker 3: feels like it's moving toward canny get Kenny Dillingham at
- 28:04Speaker 3: Arizona State. But that said, he hasn't gone out of
- 28:08Speaker 3: his way like the boor has to shoot it down either.
- 28:11Speaker 3: So until Michigan hires a job, there's no way that
- 28:15Speaker 3: a Washington Husky fan can feel one hundred percent safe
- 28:18Speaker 3: that Jedfish isn't leaving. I mean, I think that he
- 28:21Speaker 3: does entertain ideas of Fischigan, you know, being being that
- 28:26Speaker 3: guy at that program, that position. I think that is
- 28:30Speaker 3: something that interests him, whether or not Michigan's as interested
- 28:35Speaker 3: in him as they would be a Kenny Dillingham. You know,
- 28:38Speaker 3: that's what we don't.
- 28:39Speaker 1: Know the idea of.
- 28:40Speaker 5: I mean, you know, you have these headhunter firms that
- 28:43Speaker 5: are going out there and kind of helping run these
- 28:45Speaker 5: things for the athletic director for the school, and obviously
- 28:50Speaker 5: they're reaching out. I mean Kaylen de Boor and Jedfish
- 28:52Speaker 5: and Kenny Dillingham were kind of that early early board,
- 28:56Speaker 5: the hot board, if you will, that was where they
- 28:58Speaker 5: were going after. To me, Jedfish has kind of shot
- 29:02Speaker 5: it down, but not as blatantly as Katherin do wars
- 29:05Speaker 5: like no I'm here, I'm not going anywhere right. Fish
- 29:08Speaker 5: didn't necessarily come out and just basically kind of put
- 29:11Speaker 5: try to squash the whole thing. To me, it does
- 29:13Speaker 5: seem like it's heading in the Kenny Dillingham direction, just
- 29:16Speaker 5: simply because him being an Arizona and now he's coaching
- 29:20Speaker 5: basically his dream job, right. I think his sister lives
- 29:23Speaker 5: next door and his parents live right down the street.
- 29:25Speaker 5: He's basically right where he would have ever hoped you
- 29:27Speaker 5: would be. And yet now if you've done a good
- 29:30Speaker 5: enough job at Arizona State that a program like Michigan
- 29:34Speaker 5: has come and calling. That's where I think the tears
- 29:36Speaker 5: were coming from. When he was doing his little press conference.
- 29:39Speaker 3: Yeah, he cried at the end of last week over it,
- 29:42Speaker 3: and a lot of people read into that as he's leaving,
- 29:45Speaker 3: like he wouldn't be this emotional if he wasn't about
- 29:49Speaker 3: to go back on his word yeah to Arizona State,
- 29:53Speaker 3: And that's kind of how I read into it as well.
- 29:57Speaker 3: I think maybe the lesson to be learned here stop
- 29:59Speaker 3: acting like you've got your dream job.
- 30:01Speaker 7: Well yeah, and and just say, you know, I don't
- 30:04Speaker 7: know right now, I'm here and this is where I
- 30:06Speaker 7: want to be, and just say if you just say
- 30:07Speaker 7: right now no and con fault you for what you
- 30:09Speaker 7: do next week, I don't. I'm still curious because if Michigan,
- 30:13Speaker 7: it doesn't seem like they're in a big hurry right
- 30:15Speaker 7: now to hire right because they haven't done it yet,
- 30:17Speaker 7: and they've got till the second right when the transfer
- 30:20Speaker 7: portal opens. I would be curious if Alabama loses to
- 30:24Speaker 7: Oklahoma if Kaylen Debor has offered that job.
- 30:26Speaker 1: Again.
- 30:26Speaker 3: I's a great point because if it was Jed Fish,
- 30:30Speaker 3: don't you think they would have announced it?
- 30:31Speaker 6: Yeah, because they would waited till after the bowl game
- 30:33Speaker 6: it'd be done.
- 30:34Speaker 3: It's Kenny Dillingham.
- 30:35Speaker 1: What are you waiting?
- 30:36Speaker 3: You're gonna wait for him to make sure he to
- 30:38Speaker 3: try to negotiate a new deal with Arizona State? Or
- 30:41Speaker 3: are you gonna put heat? I didn't an answer right now.
- 30:43Speaker 3: I mean that's the art of negotiation, is it not.
- 30:46Speaker 3: So maybe they are waiting for something. Maybe it's on
- 30:50Speaker 3: NFL coach who knows. Maybe they are waiting for something
- 30:54Speaker 3: to this. Bucky's made this point in the past. If
- 30:56Speaker 3: it's the right guy, aren't you willing to wait?
- 30:59Speaker 8: You know?
- 31:00Speaker 3: Same with LSU. Why couldn't you have waited? You didn't
- 31:03Speaker 3: want to wait. You could have waited. You didn't want
- 31:06Speaker 3: to wait because you didn't want Ole Miss to have
- 31:09Speaker 3: nice things. So you've tried to hurt ole Miss while
- 31:12Speaker 3: still getting your guy. That's what you tried to do
- 31:15Speaker 3: at LSU. So, yeah, I think that's a I think
- 31:19Speaker 3: that's a terrific point. Why are they waiting if it's Jedfish?
- 31:22Speaker 3: Why are they waiting if it's Kenny Dillingham? Maybe it
- 31:25Speaker 3: is somebody who else has another thing to do before
- 31:30Speaker 3: they take the job. We shall see all right, coming
- 31:32Speaker 3: down next Seahawks rams on Thursday. And one thing this
- 31:37Speaker 3: week that I don't want to see the Seahawks do
- 31:40Speaker 3: Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
- 31:45Speaker 9: Rodgers will be in the gun. Rogers may be seeing
- 31:48Speaker 9: a blitz here they come, they rush five, there's the snap?
- 31:52Speaker 1: Why drive goving it?
- 31:53Speaker 9: Old Matt Pedaly gets made at the fifteen to tech
- 31:57Speaker 9: clip a.
- 31:57Speaker 10: Ten to five touchdown. Heard you let Calf throwing bodies.
- 32:04Speaker 3: Aside like the rag dolls.
- 32:06Speaker 10: To break tackles and got a twenty of yard touchdown
- 32:10Speaker 10: reception from Aaron.
- 32:11Speaker 9: Rodgers on third and twelve. Have they caught up twenty
- 32:17Speaker 9: to three over Miami?
- 32:23Speaker 3: He really is one of one, both Kevin Harlan and
- 32:26Speaker 3: DK Metcalf. There's no one liked Kevin Harlan on a
- 32:29Speaker 3: call Westwood one. Nobody quite liked DK Metcalf. I mean,
- 32:32Speaker 3: I think we made the right decision getting rid of him,
- 32:35Speaker 3: and I think JSN certainly has flourished being the undisputed
- 32:40Speaker 3: number one receiver in this lineup by that guy, There's
- 32:44Speaker 3: just some traits that nobody else in the league can match.
- 32:46Speaker 3: I mean, he just caught that ball into the ring,
- 32:49Speaker 3: just stiff armed, like six different dolphins just out of
- 32:52Speaker 3: his way. Now they acted like they were frozen to
- 32:55Speaker 3: the core. Yeah, I think that was.
- 32:56Speaker 1: Part of it.
- 32:57Speaker 3: But yeah, he's a monster.
- 32:59Speaker 5: Yeah, he's different. You can just see it when he
- 33:01Speaker 5: just steps out there. He's different. And yet it's still
- 33:05Speaker 5: even this year with Hall of Famer and Aaron Rodgers,
- 33:08Speaker 5: an old Hall of Famer in Aaron Rodgers, he still
- 33:11Speaker 5: hasn't kind of grown to be that thing that, yeah,
- 33:14Speaker 5: everybody thought he was going to be at least why
- 33:16Speaker 5: he was here.
- 33:17Speaker 3: Pittsburgh won over Miami Monday Night football to wrap up
- 33:20Speaker 3: the week. Twenty eight to fifteen is the final score,
- 33:23Speaker 3: so the Steelers keep their game lead over the Baltimore
- 33:26Speaker 3: Ravens in the division. Miami was eliminated from the playoffs.
- 33:29Speaker 3: Of course, we are all preparing, We're well underway for
- 33:33Speaker 3: Thursday night football. Rams at Seahawks. We'll talk to Greg
- 33:37Speaker 3: Bell in a moment about Davonte Adams and many other things.
- 33:40Speaker 3: So our Seahawks Insider is just a minute away. Let
- 33:43Speaker 3: me go through your frost brewed Corps light Choose Chill headlines.
- 33:48Speaker 3: Congratulations to you dub national champions of the soccer World.
- 33:53Speaker 3: The men's team won last night over North Carolina State
- 33:57Speaker 3: three to two with a golden goal over time. It
- 34:01Speaker 3: was reviewed and so the delay or see me the
- 34:04Speaker 3: celebration got delayed, but it ended up being two different
- 34:08Speaker 3: celebrations for the Husky. So congratulations there on top of
- 34:12Speaker 3: the soccer world. Over there on Montlake National champs last
- 34:17Speaker 3: night with their three to two win over North Carolina State.
- 34:20Speaker 3: College football playoff is this Friday. There'll be three games
- 34:24Speaker 3: on Saturday, and so the very first week begins with
- 34:29Speaker 3: Alabama and Oklahoma Friday Night Crack inter inaction against the
- 34:33Speaker 3: Avalanche Tonight. It is a cracking ticket. Tuesday. Be listening
- 34:37Speaker 3: for that piece of audio that will prompt you to
- 34:40Speaker 3: be the tenth caller and you might just win tickets
- 34:43Speaker 3: to see the Crack and take on Vancouver on the
- 34:45Speaker 3: twenty ninth of this month. Everitt Fitzhu's going to join
- 34:48Speaker 3: us today at eight thirty. Those are your headlines. Let's
- 34:51Speaker 3: talk some Seahawks with Greg Bell.
- 34:53Speaker 1: With the bell tolls.
- 34:55Speaker 4: It must be seven o'clock and time for twelve Man
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- 35:10Speaker 4: for Seco. Now with twalk Man News, here's Greg Bell
- 35:14Speaker 4: with Chuck and Bud.
- 35:16Speaker 3: Good morning, Greg, Good morning? Huh Greg Bell or sucks
- 35:19Speaker 3: Insider joining us here today. What's the buzz over there?
- 35:25Speaker 3: I mean you might not even know this yet, but
- 35:28Speaker 3: obviously weather could play a factor. It's been playing a
- 35:31Speaker 3: factor in all of our lives here for the last week.
- 35:33Speaker 3: But I just looked up the forecast eighty three percent
- 35:36Speaker 3: chance of rain Thursday night wins expected to possibly be
- 35:40Speaker 3: around twenty miles per hour. It could be a factor
- 35:44Speaker 3: in this game. Does Mike McDonald feel they're better prepared
- 35:48Speaker 3: for Knights like this than anybody that comes into Seattle?
- 35:53Speaker 1: Well, yes and no.
- 35:54Speaker 8: The NFL game when it rains, the officials allow you
- 35:58Speaker 8: to swap out the ball every single dame and often
- 36:02Speaker 8: they aren't throwing a wet ball even in a downpour
- 36:04Speaker 8: because of that. But it is a factor when you
- 36:08Speaker 8: got wind, and kickers and pass catchers and pass throwers
- 36:12Speaker 8: will tell you that's a bigger deal than rain or snow.
- 36:15Speaker 8: And if you get win, then there are a lot
- 36:18Speaker 8: of variables to change how far Jason Myers can kick
- 36:21Speaker 8: into the Downtown open end. The north end of the field,
- 36:24Speaker 8: for instance, that's the end where the wind comes in
- 36:26Speaker 8: from the sides the corners of the end zone, unlike
- 36:30Speaker 8: the south end, which is closed. And Myers, when we
- 36:33Speaker 8: talk to him, talks all the time about the winds
- 36:36Speaker 8: changing the Downtown end. If there's twenty mile hour winds
- 36:39Speaker 8: blowing through the stadium, no matter which direction you're going,
- 36:41Speaker 8: that is definitely going to change the limit that Mike
- 36:44Speaker 8: McDonald knows his kicker can go. Incidentally, he said Myers
- 36:48Speaker 8: did in McDonald's said that they were confident that Myers
- 36:52Speaker 8: would make the fifty six yard field goal to beat
- 36:54Speaker 8: the Colts into that open end because the wind was
- 36:57Speaker 8: not a big factor in that game, and Myers got
- 37:00Speaker 8: boosted by the confidence of making a fifty two yard
- 37:02Speaker 8: or into the other end zone. At the end of
- 37:04Speaker 8: the first half, they thought the Colts kicker was beyond
- 37:07Speaker 8: his line. They had tagged him for less and fewer
- 37:11Speaker 8: than sixty yards to make his kick. Did he ended
- 37:13Speaker 8: up making from sixty The kicking game in the passing
- 37:16Speaker 8: game will be affected if the wins are like you're
- 37:18Speaker 8: talking about.
- 37:19Speaker 5: Yeah, it's going to be interesting and it's gonna be wet,
- 37:22Speaker 5: but we shall see how if it is. Do you
- 37:24Speaker 5: think that they continue to really marry themselves to the
- 37:28Speaker 5: idea that we're going to run more than everybody else,
- 37:30Speaker 5: whether it works or not. I mean, maybe the weather
- 37:32Speaker 5: dictates some of the play calls as well.
- 37:35Speaker 8: Yes, they need to against the Rams and forty nine
- 37:38Speaker 8: ers because their defensive fronts are so active, so athletic.
- 37:42Speaker 8: Let's talking to Jalen Sindell to's the AUC Center yesterday
- 37:45Speaker 8: about the Rams front. He said, what makes them so
- 37:48Speaker 8: good is when they're young. But they are all really
- 37:51Speaker 8: good at both speed and power. And he said, for
- 37:54Speaker 8: a center that's tough, usually defensive offensive excuse me, defensive
- 37:59Speaker 8: linemen are one of the other, really strong or really fast,
- 38:03Speaker 8: not offering it. They both And he said everybody across
- 38:05Speaker 8: the front, including the linebackers. For the Rams are both
- 38:08Speaker 8: strong and fast, and you got to be fast off
- 38:12Speaker 8: the snap. And for him that's especially tough because he's
- 38:14Speaker 8: snapping the ball and you got to be strong enough
- 38:16Speaker 8: to push them out of the holes. They have the
- 38:19Speaker 8: Seahawks for years of that hard time running the ball
- 38:22Speaker 8: against the Rams. That could be the reason why they've
- 38:25Speaker 8: remade their defense on the fly, of course, and they
- 38:28Speaker 8: had a Hall of Famer retire. They traded Ernest Jones
- 38:31Speaker 8: their middle linebacker, and they still haven't been They've missed
- 38:35Speaker 8: a beat. Sadell thinks that's the challenge for the Seahawks.
- 38:39Speaker 8: The biggest one is their strength and their size. We've
- 38:41Speaker 8: seen it, Bucky, We've talked about it. Just because the
- 38:44Speaker 8: Seahawks aren't running for effectiveness doesn't mean they won't run.
- 38:48Speaker 8: They got just two point three yards per carry against
- 38:50Speaker 8: the Colts. They're going to keep running it, especially for
- 38:54Speaker 8: the elements. But even if they aren't that bad, no
- 38:56Speaker 8: matter what the weather, they're going to keep running it. Well,
- 38:59Speaker 8: I think you're gonna see night you didn't see Sunday
- 39:01Speaker 8: against the Colts. Robbie Oots at fullback. He was a curious,
- 39:05Speaker 8: healthy scratch for the first time in his career. Against Indianapolis,
- 39:08Speaker 8: they had Brady Russell in a few times. They used fullback,
- 39:11Speaker 8: and we saw Russell drop a pass in the flat
- 39:13Speaker 8: when he faked that he was walking and the Colts
- 39:16Speaker 8: didn't even guard him. If he had caught that pass,
- 39:19Speaker 8: he would probably run for at least forty yards. Oots
- 39:22Speaker 8: will be in the lineup. I think that was a
- 39:24Speaker 8: tactical air and especially against the Rams, I think Oots
- 39:28Speaker 8: will be in the lineup and you'll see more eye formation.
- 39:30Speaker 3: Well, considering the quality of the opponent, Greg and the
- 39:34Speaker 3: magnitude of the game. Do they stick with it as
- 39:37Speaker 3: long as they have been? I mean, yes, you've gone
- 39:40Speaker 3: four to zero over your last four games, but it
- 39:44Speaker 3: just feels like you were trying to establish the run
- 39:48Speaker 3: for too long and the passing game has been the
- 39:51Speaker 3: team's bread and butter this year. So will we see
- 39:54Speaker 3: any sort of philosophical changes And with the wins settling
- 39:59Speaker 3: for field goals, it feels like, man, we're settling for
- 40:01Speaker 3: a lot of field goals these days, and then also
- 40:04Speaker 3: sticking with the run sometimes well into the third quarter,
- 40:07Speaker 3: even though it's not altogether working. Do you think we'll
- 40:10Speaker 3: see philosophical changes because of the magnitude of the opponent
- 40:14Speaker 3: and the game on Thursday.
- 40:17Speaker 1: No.
- 40:17Speaker 8: If they go back and just start throwing forty times
- 40:20Speaker 8: in a monsoon and win, or even in a bright
- 40:23Speaker 8: sunny day, the Rams will kill them. The Rams defensive
- 40:27Speaker 8: front will overwhelm the Seahawks offensive line if the Seahawks
- 40:30Speaker 8: don't run that. I have about ten years of history
- 40:33Speaker 8: to back me up on that. No matter who the
- 40:35Speaker 8: offensive coordinator is, no matter who the offensive linemen are,
- 40:38Speaker 8: no matter who the Rams put out on defense. That's
- 40:40Speaker 8: been a consistent theme. They got to run, and they'd
- 40:43Speaker 8: run also because their defense is so damn good. They
- 40:47Speaker 8: want to control field position, they want to control time
- 40:49Speaker 8: of possession. They want to keep Stafford's hands off the
- 40:51Speaker 8: ball by keeping them on the sidelines. If you can
- 40:54Speaker 8: run enough to at least make the third downs manageable,
- 40:57Speaker 8: maybe your quarterback doesn't throw four interceptions in hand three touchdowns.
- 41:01Speaker 8: That to me is the key to the game on Thursday.
- 41:04Speaker 8: Run enough to let the Seahawks defense dictate the game.
- 41:08Speaker 8: We've talked about this many times. We'll probably talk about
- 41:10Speaker 8: the roundtable this week again. With two three games Mike
- 41:14Speaker 8: McDonald has played Sean McVay well, throwing out the JV
- 41:18Speaker 8: game at the end of last season because the Rams
- 41:20Speaker 8: didn't play anybody, including Stafford, because they had everything clinched.
- 41:22Speaker 8: The two other games, the Rams had one offensive touchdown
- 41:25Speaker 8: in regulation before it went to overtime, and they wanted
- 41:28Speaker 8: including the hundred and three yard interception return for a
- 41:32Speaker 8: touchdown by Kitchens that changed the game when Gino Smith
- 41:34Speaker 8: threw the am zone. And then the last time they
- 41:37Speaker 8: played the Rams in Inglewood, the Seahawks quarterback gave the
- 41:41Speaker 8: Rams three touchdowns with four interceptions. The Seahawks didn't. I
- 41:44Speaker 8: think it was one of the three touchdowns that the
- 41:47Speaker 8: Rams had to drive more than half the field and
- 41:49Speaker 8: they won twenty one nineteen. So you could say pretty
- 41:53Speaker 8: plausibly that the Mike McDonald's defense has given up two
- 41:57Speaker 8: in two games. Eight quarters have given up two touchdowns
- 42:01Speaker 8: that the Rams have had to drive the field to
- 42:02Speaker 8: get two against the number one quarterback who's the best
- 42:07Speaker 8: passer rating and one of the best offensive minds of
- 42:09Speaker 8: his generation. I McDonald would never say this, but I
- 42:13Speaker 8: think McDonald's got McVeigh schematically, and I think he's got
- 42:17Speaker 8: a few things new McVeagh hasn't seen either coming up
- 42:20Speaker 8: on Thursday night. So can the Seahawks offense stay out
- 42:22Speaker 8: of its own way and let the defense win the game?
- 42:24Speaker 8: That's the key on Thursday.
- 42:27Speaker 5: Do you know, I mean, do the injury reports and
- 42:28Speaker 5: stuff come out earlier since the Thursday game?
- 42:31Speaker 1: Do you so?
- 42:31Speaker 5: Do we know how cross, how injured people are? I
- 42:35Speaker 5: mean we didn't get to that yesterday.
- 42:37Speaker 8: Yeah, Cross is the concern. So the NFL requires that
- 42:41Speaker 8: they put out a Monday report for a Thursday game,
- 42:43Speaker 8: even though they don't practice. They were out on the
- 42:45Speaker 8: field just walking around the game plan for the Rams,
- 42:48Speaker 8: and the Seahawks estimated that Cross was a non participant
- 42:51Speaker 8: in that he was standing there doing the walkthrough, but
- 42:54Speaker 8: they would have estimated how they practiced what the Cross
- 42:57Speaker 8: would not have. He got injured on the final play
- 43:00Speaker 8: the field goal. He basically got smushed to the ground
- 43:04Speaker 8: and did the splits and injured his hamstring. As soon
- 43:07Speaker 8: as the Colts blocker jumped on top of basically jumped
- 43:12Speaker 8: over him and then landed on him. He did the splits,
- 43:15Speaker 8: grabbed the left handstring and was rolling around in pain.
- 43:18Speaker 8: McDonald said they are working pretty hard they try to
- 43:21Speaker 8: make him available for Thursday night. He said it's possible
- 43:25Speaker 8: cross plays, but that is probably going to be a
- 43:28Speaker 8: game time announcement and he'll probably be questionable at best
- 43:32Speaker 8: going into the game, which means Josh Jones their swing
- 43:35Speaker 8: tackle that they signed for this role, it would likely
- 43:38Speaker 8: be the left tackle. He was the right tackle for
- 43:40Speaker 8: a few plays when Abe Lucas went out and into
- 43:42Speaker 8: the injury tent for a few minutes and the game
- 43:44Speaker 8: against the Colts. But McDonald and everybody's saying that Abe
- 43:48Speaker 8: Lucas is fine. He finished the game, but Josh Jones
- 43:51Speaker 8: would be on deck. And then Josh Jones is going
- 43:52Speaker 8: to get the reps in practice on Wednesday, the one
- 43:55Speaker 8: full practice they have this week.
- 43:56Speaker 3: Well, the name that will get the most attention via
- 43:59Speaker 3: injury report this week is DeVante Adams. Sean McVay says
- 44:03Speaker 3: that it's not looking good for him to play on Thursday.
- 44:06Speaker 3: Last time they played, he only caught one ball. Now,
- 44:08Speaker 3: he's a tremendous red zone threat and at one ball
- 44:12Speaker 3: for one yard ended up being a touchdown. But how
- 44:15Speaker 3: much easier does that make life for the Seahawks defense
- 44:19Speaker 3: If you don't have to face Nakua and Adams on Thursday.
- 44:23Speaker 8: Well, certainly little hell. Then we've talked about this and
- 44:26Speaker 8: Jillian Low talked about it again yesterday. The Rams are
- 44:29Speaker 8: playing thirteen personnel quite a bit. What's that one running back?
- 44:33Speaker 8: Three tight ends? Kobe Parkinson's been a big part of day.
- 44:36Speaker 8: Cut another touchdown pass against the Lions. I wasn't sure
- 44:39Speaker 8: that he was in the end zone, but they called
- 44:40Speaker 8: it a touchdown. But McVeigh has reinvented himself, as Julian Love
- 44:45Speaker 8: aptly put it yesterday, and you'll hear from him today
- 44:47Speaker 8: when I'm filling in for Ian one to three. I'm
- 44:49Speaker 8: going to talk to Julian Love. They recorded the interview yesterday.
- 44:53Speaker 8: He said the Rams, as the rest of the NFL
- 44:56Speaker 8: is going small and fast on offense, McVeigh has pivoted
- 44:59Speaker 8: to big and strong and put three tight ends on
- 45:02Speaker 8: the field at one time. And Loves said, the way
- 45:04Speaker 8: the NFL is, the offenses will catch up them paye
- 45:07Speaker 8: next year and then start doing three tight ends all
- 45:09Speaker 8: the time. But the thing about the three tight ends
- 45:12Speaker 8: is it gives the Rams the ability to run the
- 45:13Speaker 8: ball with extra blockers. Yet McVeigh is still running his
- 45:17Speaker 8: full smorgasboard of past routes and horizontal across the field.
- 45:22Speaker 8: Plays with Nakua and Parkinson. Parkinson's basically become the third
- 45:25Speaker 8: wide receiver for the Rams. So if Adams isn't going
- 45:29Speaker 8: to play, They're going to have even more thirteen personnel
- 45:32Speaker 8: I would expect, and Kobe Parkinson's becomes a big part
- 45:34Speaker 8: of this game. The Seahawks think, and there's reason that
- 45:38Speaker 8: there's reason justification for this. The Seahawks think they're uniquely
- 45:42Speaker 8: equipped to handle the Rams thirteen personnel because of one
- 45:45Speaker 8: guy in particular, our buddy Nick even Worry, and the
- 45:49Speaker 8: fact that Emon Worry, at two hundred and twenty pounds
- 45:51Speaker 8: and sixty three, can guard wide receivers and tight ends
- 45:54Speaker 8: and stop the run and rush the quarterback and play
- 45:58Speaker 8: defensive end. There nobody else in the league that has
- 46:01Speaker 8: that weapon. The Seahawks are uniquely qualified to stop thirteen
- 46:05Speaker 8: personnel players because of Nick even Worried.
- 46:08Speaker 5: I'm heading into this game, man, I mean, I'm sure
- 46:11Speaker 5: there's been bigger regular season games. You know, when you
- 46:14Speaker 5: get into the final week and it's winning, you're in,
- 46:16Speaker 5: the losing, you're out. But with all of this stuff,
- 46:19Speaker 5: the number one seed and the division all that stuff.
- 46:22Speaker 5: I mean, can you remember a game with a few
- 46:24Speaker 5: weeks after the season that's been bigger than this one?
- 46:28Speaker 8: The only other one is when the Seahawks and forty
- 46:30Speaker 8: nine Ers played for the division title on Sunday night
- 46:33Speaker 8: on the last game of the season at Lewinfield. What
- 46:35Speaker 8: was that three? Was it pre pandemic or post pandemic?
- 46:38Speaker 8: I can't even remember, and I'm not mistaken. Yeah, the
- 46:43Speaker 8: Seahawks still made the playoffs that year. I can't believe.
- 46:47Speaker 8: I can't remember what year there was. I think it
- 46:48Speaker 8: was twenty nineteen or so. They made the playoffs that year,
- 46:51Speaker 8: So that wasn't an all or nothing situation, nor is this.
- 46:54Speaker 8: But you're right, Bucky. They either going to be the
- 46:57Speaker 8: first seed or the fifth seed, depending on largely on
- 46:59Speaker 8: the result of this game. If the Seahawks lose Thursday
- 47:04Speaker 8: to win the division, they would need the Rams to
- 47:05Speaker 8: lose twice and they would have to beat the forty
- 47:08Speaker 8: nine Ers. The Rams after this game are playing Atlanta
- 47:12Speaker 8: in Arizona. They're not losing those games. They could put
- 47:15Speaker 8: their C squad out and they'll beat either one of
- 47:17Speaker 8: those two teams. So the Seahawks will lose a division
- 47:20Speaker 8: if they don't win this game. What's that mean? That
- 47:22Speaker 8: means a road game at Tampa Bay and then they
- 47:25Speaker 8: win that game in the wild card, a road game
- 47:27Speaker 8: at probably Chicago or Green Bay. That's no way to
- 47:30Speaker 8: make the Super Bowl. To go to Chicago and Green
- 47:33Speaker 8: Bay after Tampa Bay and there'll be snowstorm. Every time
- 47:36Speaker 8: I've driven to Green Bay for a playoff game, it's
- 47:39Speaker 8: just been an absolute blizzard and blow out, white out conditions.
- 47:43Speaker 8: So they can really do themselves a favor being Thursday night,
- 47:46Speaker 8: say the least.
- 47:47Speaker 1: But here's the thing.
- 47:48Speaker 8: Even if the Seahawks win Thursday Night, they still got
- 47:51Speaker 8: to go down to Santa Clair and win that game
- 47:53Speaker 8: or they won't win the division. The way the forty
- 47:54Speaker 8: nine ers are playing, the Niners have a tougher road.
- 47:57Speaker 8: They've got Chicago still to play. Do they go to
- 48:01Speaker 8: Indianapolis and the Grandpa Quarterback on Monday night? And so
- 48:06Speaker 8: suffice to say, the Seahawks can go from either having
- 48:10Speaker 8: all the home games come to the Seattle car Wash
- 48:12Speaker 8: in January or traveling all over the country. You have
- 48:15Speaker 8: to win three games on the road to the Super Bowl.
- 48:18Speaker 3: Greg Meller Sehawks insider is with us, and I think
- 48:22Speaker 3: we just use our last minute because maybe we don't
- 48:25Speaker 3: talk about it enough. But Jason Myers deserves some love, Greg.
- 48:28Speaker 3: I mean, has he turned into the best kicker in
- 48:31Speaker 3: the National Football League right before our eyes?
- 48:34Speaker 8: He might be the best kicker of the Seawks I've
- 48:35Speaker 8: ever had, and I really liked Steven Hauska for them.
- 48:38Speaker 8: He's twenty three of his last twenty four. You guys
- 48:41Speaker 8: remember what the one miss was, right.
- 48:45Speaker 3: If I had time to think about it, but you
- 48:46Speaker 3: better answer it for us.
- 48:48Speaker 8: It was like from Hollywood Hills against the Rams from
- 48:52Speaker 8: sixty nine thousand yards to try to win the game
- 48:54Speaker 8: at the very end of desperate kick. That's the only
- 48:56Speaker 8: one he's missed in months. He's thirty seven of forty
- 49:00Speaker 8: two on the season. Thirty seven is now a team record,
- 49:02Speaker 8: the most field goals ever by a Seahawks kicker, and
- 49:05Speaker 8: they still have three games left. Now, the Seahawks would
- 49:08Speaker 8: rather than him not be setting records for most field
- 49:10Speaker 8: goals because it means they're malfunctioning in the red zone.
- 49:13Speaker 8: And that's another key to Thursday Night's game is they
- 49:16Speaker 8: need some seven points instead of three points on all
- 49:18Speaker 8: those drives to get Meyers in position for field goals.
- 49:21Speaker 8: But yes, when they get to the opposing forty five
- 49:26Speaker 8: yard line they think they can get Jason Myers. It
- 49:29Speaker 8: can get him three points. That's a powerful weapon in
- 49:31Speaker 8: your play calling, in your approach. You don't have to
- 49:34Speaker 8: drop back to pass necessarily on third and long of
- 49:37Speaker 8: the opposing plus forty five because you know you have
- 49:39Speaker 8: a kicker can bang it from fifty six plus. Now
- 49:42Speaker 8: the weather Thursday night might mitigate some of that distance,
- 49:45Speaker 8: but his accuracy, Yeah, that's a huge weapon. And in
- 49:50Speaker 8: this league, when games are this close and you have
- 49:54Speaker 8: a kicker who's going to kick three through the uprights
- 49:56Speaker 8: almost every time, that's a massive advantage. And I'll tell
- 50:01Speaker 8: you what between Michael Dixon, I don't care what the
- 50:03Speaker 8: stats say about Michael Dixon. He's a magician. And sometimes
- 50:06Speaker 8: he doesn't kick it seventy yards, but often he kicks
- 50:08Speaker 8: it exactly where he wants to to the side. He
- 50:11Speaker 8: makes balls go ninety degrees out of bounds. And the
- 50:14Speaker 8: other thing Jason Myers has been really good in is
- 50:17Speaker 8: the kickoffs. Lately, he's been a little bit shorter and
- 50:20Speaker 8: or too deep and putting it in the end zone
- 50:22Speaker 8: for touchbacks, but most of the season he has pinned
- 50:25Speaker 8: returners on their own goal line in the corner where
- 50:28Speaker 8: the guys have to catch it and then they get
- 50:30Speaker 8: nothing on the return. He's been really good at nailing
- 50:34Speaker 8: that target zone and making the receiver have to bring
- 50:38Speaker 8: it out right at the goal line and usually at
- 50:40Speaker 8: one side of the field where the covers can hem
- 50:42Speaker 8: him in. They the Seahawks have two excellent kicker punters
- 50:46Speaker 8: that give them a huge advantage.
- 50:47Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 50:48Speaker 3: I better kick returner now too since the trade.
- 50:50Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
- 50:52Speaker 8: He going straight up the field with little time on
- 50:54Speaker 8: the clock really helped them. If he went to the
- 50:57Speaker 8: far side of the field, that would have taken a
- 50:59Speaker 8: longer time, would not have gotten to the thirty seven
- 51:02Speaker 8: yard line, which is the second best drive start against
- 51:04Speaker 8: the Colts that they had. I asked McDonald about that,
- 51:07Speaker 8: and he said part of it was that the return
- 51:09Speaker 8: call was to that side, but part of it was
- 51:11Speaker 8: because of the decisiveness of shihed to just run a
- 51:14Speaker 8: straight line up the field, knowing that they had needed
- 51:16Speaker 8: every one of those forty two seconds. He didn't mess
- 51:19Speaker 8: around with trying to go across the field. He went
- 51:21Speaker 8: straight up the field and got thirty five plus yards
- 51:23Speaker 8: on that return. Those are a little unhidden type of
- 51:26Speaker 8: decisions as people don't know and you don't obviously get.
- 51:30Speaker 8: I mean, he runs around a little bit and they
- 51:32Speaker 8: only have like twenty eight seconds instead of thirty seven
- 51:34Speaker 8: to start that drive.
- 51:35Speaker 3: That stuff matters, all right, Greg, excellent stuff.
- 51:37Speaker 11: We will do it again tomorrow, Yes, sir Tuesday, Greg Bell.
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- 52:43Speaker 1: Well.
- 52:43Speaker 3: We look forward to it every week. That's what we do.
- 52:46Speaker 3: Our chance to chat with the greatest NFL official of
- 52:49Speaker 3: all time. Jane Sterator is with us right here on
- 52:52Speaker 3: Chuck and Buck in the mornings. Good morning, sir, Good
- 52:56Speaker 3: morning fellows.
- 52:56Speaker 12: How are you.
- 52:57Speaker 3: We're doing great, We're doing great. I'm curious though, before
- 53:00Speaker 3: we start breaking down some plays and some rules and stuff,
- 53:03Speaker 3: did Philip Rivers in any way inspire you over the weekend?
- 53:07Speaker 3: Did you think to yourself, it is time for a comeback.
- 53:11Speaker 3: I can still do this. I can come back and
- 53:13Speaker 3: still be the greatest NFL of visual of all time.
- 53:18Speaker 12: It's so funny, Chuck, I think this is the third
- 53:21Speaker 12: radio interview this morning, and everyone asked the same question. Yeah,
- 53:25Speaker 12: so it is one that must be out there, and
- 53:28Speaker 12: it makes me a little warm and fuzzy when you
- 53:31Speaker 12: see really someone just older than they should be playing
- 53:35Speaker 12: in that game.
- 53:35Speaker 1: And you went right to me on it, Chuck.
- 53:38Speaker 12: I mean, the tie there is fantastic. And to be
- 53:43Speaker 12: perfectly honest, there was that moment where you know, our
- 53:46Speaker 12: our our careers kind of paralleled themselves for that fifteen
- 53:50Speaker 12: years or so, and you know, it looked awful familiar
- 53:53Speaker 12: to me. And then I watched last night's game only
- 53:57Speaker 12: thirty miles from where I live and realized it was
- 53:59Speaker 12: seven degrees and and I thought, you know this chair
- 54:03Speaker 12: in the studio. You know, Jane, what do you think
- 54:07Speaker 12: I think if it's two.
- 54:08Speaker 1: Steps in a football move? Okay, Jane, we don't like you.
- 54:11Speaker 12: But back to the chair, I went. I just that
- 54:14Speaker 12: was about how long it lasted.
- 54:17Speaker 5: She thought about it for a second.
- 54:19Speaker 12: It did, Bucky, It went right through like the morning breeze.
- 54:23Speaker 1: Does you know, like it just catches your hair for
- 54:26Speaker 1: a second if you have some No, I don't, but
- 54:29Speaker 1: you know, And and then off we went.
- 54:33Speaker 3: By the way. What was Rivers like? Because a lot
- 54:35Speaker 3: of fans, if you weren't a Charger fan or a
- 54:37Speaker 3: Colt fan, you didn't like Philippers because it looked like
- 54:40Speaker 3: he just whined the entire game to the officials. What
- 54:43Speaker 3: was he like? To officiate. Did you enjoy officiating his games?
- 54:48Speaker 12: I loved officiating them, And yes, he wore on the
- 54:51Speaker 12: entire game and you have to officiated most of it.
- 54:54Speaker 12: And it was a beautiful thing. You know, My older
- 54:57Speaker 12: brother Tony was a back judge on my cruise. So
- 55:00Speaker 12: actually when Phil thought maybe something happened downfield or there
- 55:03Speaker 12: was a legal contact or holding, he loved to start
- 55:06Speaker 12: that eight to ten yard sprint down the field to
- 55:09Speaker 12: voice his opinion and displeasure. And you know, kind of
- 55:13Speaker 12: being the younger brother thing. And my job was to
- 55:15Speaker 12: protect a quarterback and knew he was going downfield to
- 55:19Speaker 12: kind of you know, scream at my brother just for
- 55:22Speaker 12: that minute. I was like, go ahead, go for it.
- 55:25Speaker 12: You know, I got a couple to throw out there too,
- 55:27Speaker 12: you know, say this to him while you're you know,
- 55:29Speaker 12: as you turn around, just to catch him off guard.
- 55:32Speaker 1: But no, he was.
- 55:33Speaker 12: He was a joy and just intense and you could
- 55:35Speaker 12: see it, right. I mean, the beauty of the game
- 55:39Speaker 12: is it brings out the uh, the youthful vigor in
- 55:42Speaker 12: all of us. That and it's really did why I
- 55:45Speaker 12: did stay as long as I did in officiating, and
- 55:48Speaker 12: you could see rivers immediately more fright back to look,
- 55:51Speaker 12: it's this game time, man, you know. And the intensity
- 55:53Speaker 12: was up and so was the talk. So I thought
- 55:56Speaker 12: it was a really cool thing to witness.
- 55:58Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. It was.
- 55:59Speaker 5: I agree it was cool, even though as a Bronco fan,
- 56:02Speaker 5: I was one of the ones that couldn't stand watching
- 56:04Speaker 5: him whine and talk trash Dad Dummet talking trash across
- 56:09Speaker 5: the field with no cuss words, like, you can't do that,
- 56:11Speaker 5: that's not right. But it was cool to see a
- 56:14Speaker 5: guy come out of retirement. I am curious, man, your thoughts.
- 56:18Speaker 5: Just the way in which the game is officiated now,
- 56:22Speaker 5: I mean, they're trying to protect guys, and I know
- 56:25Speaker 5: if a receiver is trying to make a catch and
- 56:27Speaker 5: you don't want to go to his head that I
- 56:29Speaker 5: get that whole thing. And yet there's times too where
- 56:32Speaker 5: a guy gets a hit and it looks like the
- 56:33Speaker 5: defender was just doing what he's supposed to do. There's
- 56:35Speaker 5: one in that Chargers Chiefs game. There's actually a couple
- 56:40Speaker 5: big hits in that one, but one in particular where
- 56:42Speaker 5: the guy ends up getting ejected, but it kind of
- 56:44Speaker 5: looked like he was committed to going in hitting the
- 56:47Speaker 5: guy in the chest. Then the receiver drops down, Thornton's
- 56:52Speaker 5: kind of drops down, so he hits him in the head,
- 56:54Speaker 5: and then because he's laying on the ground now, all
- 56:56Speaker 5: of a sudden, they eject him.
- 56:57Speaker 1: Is that the way it's supposed to be called?
- 56:59Speaker 12: It'll You're so right on all those points, because I
- 57:02Speaker 12: do think, Look, the player that was laying wood on
- 57:05Speaker 12: those hits is one of those players that you want
- 57:09Speaker 12: on your squad, right, because he causes receivers and quarterbacks
- 57:13Speaker 12: to think twice before throwing over the middle. There's a
- 57:17Speaker 12: huge element in this game that needs to continue to
- 57:21Speaker 12: happen that way. That's a big part of this game.
- 57:23Speaker 12: And the rules quite honestly have taken some of that
- 57:29Speaker 12: element out of the game because of the level and
- 57:31Speaker 12: amount of files that occur there. That throws over the
- 57:34Speaker 12: middle aren't nearly as dangerous as they used to be
- 57:37Speaker 12: because of the rules, And as you said, the first
- 57:40Speaker 12: hit was a classic hit within the rules, with force
- 57:43Speaker 12: to a player's chest depletes him and imposes his will, right,
- 57:49Speaker 12: And I am sure on that field when you get
- 57:51Speaker 12: hits like that, a lot of people on that field
- 57:54Speaker 12: like to start selling wolf cookies. A little bit and
- 57:57Speaker 12: letting people know they're out here for the whole day
- 58:00Speaker 12: beauty of that business, right, I mean, that is what
- 58:02Speaker 12: this is about. And then as you said the second play,
- 58:05Speaker 12: I think he initially did have a perfect target level
- 58:08Speaker 12: and I think he realized it the element of that.
- 58:12Speaker 12: And it's so hard to do this in real time.
- 58:14Speaker 12: I can't even I would never be able to even
- 58:17Speaker 12: think what goes through their head or how great they
- 58:19Speaker 12: are to try to manipulate that the leading with the
- 58:22Speaker 12: head porshed, trying to maybe get a little shoulder in
- 58:26Speaker 12: but still a little more just too much torpedo. Like
- 58:29Speaker 12: we used to think we're the best hits in the
- 58:31Speaker 12: NFL ten years ago, which now we want to get
- 58:34Speaker 12: out quite honestly, in defense of the player initiating the
- 58:37Speaker 12: shot in many cases and not the receiver. But then
- 58:41Speaker 12: as you said, like this receiver is doing what a.
- 58:43Speaker 1: Human would do. He's ducking to protect himself.
- 58:45Speaker 12: Now he lowers what was a good target, and now
- 58:48Speaker 12: it becomes a hit on a defensives receivers head and
- 58:50Speaker 12: neck area, So now you have a foul. Those are
- 58:53Speaker 12: hard plays to you know, the hard plays to rect
- 58:57Speaker 12: it is.
- 58:58Speaker 1: The rules are the rules, and then.
- 59:00Speaker 12: As far as the ejection was concerned in that situation,
- 59:03Speaker 12: I think I did speak to it briefly on air.
- 59:06Speaker 12: When there is a flag down in the NFL for
- 59:09Speaker 12: anything but in sportsmanlike unnecessary roughnesses those plays, New York.
- 59:13Speaker 1: Then can come down and way in. Now.
- 59:16Speaker 12: I was told after some communication with the NFL in
- 59:19Speaker 12: real time on that play, was this a play where
- 59:23Speaker 12: New York came down and initiated And their response to
- 59:26Speaker 12: me was the officials were contemplating potentially ejecting on the field.
- 59:32Speaker 12: Did not make that initial assessment right on the field,
- 59:36Speaker 12: but with collaboration from New York, and that goes up
- 59:38Speaker 12: a different level to true vincent and the people in
- 59:41Speaker 12: operations that are a little above that that are in
- 59:43Speaker 12: the room.
- 59:44Speaker 1: They made that decision. Now, whether that's.
- 59:47Speaker 12: Based on previous behaviors in other games or what their
- 59:52Speaker 12: standard is, or how they kind of process that, that's
- 59:56Speaker 12: kind of into the office.
- 59:57Speaker 1: But the ejection was confirmed or.
- 1:00:00Speaker 12: I think basically made at the end of the day
- 1:00:03Speaker 12: from the office and not the officials on the field.
- 1:00:06Speaker 3: I had a conversation with my mom last night. She
- 1:00:08Speaker 3: said she was going to be sending me some Christmas
- 1:00:11Speaker 3: fudge as she tends to do. But this year, I'm
- 1:00:13Speaker 3: going to order a batch of woof wolf Cookies. That's
- 1:00:16Speaker 3: what I'm going to order for Christmas.
- 1:00:20Speaker 12: Wolf Cookies has good and when you're an older guy
- 1:00:23Speaker 12: out there with the young guys and you can try
- 1:00:25Speaker 12: to you know, I'm not up with all the stuff
- 1:00:27Speaker 12: that happens in the generations that followed me, but every
- 1:00:30Speaker 12: once in a while, you can even throw one of
- 1:00:32Speaker 12: the ones that we used in the seventies back down
- 1:00:35Speaker 12: to them and it's like your jeans and the drawer
- 1:00:38Speaker 12: there chuck. You know, if you leave, if you leave
- 1:00:39Speaker 12: them in there long enough, actually comes all the way
- 1:00:42Speaker 12: around again and you're making a fashion statement. So you know,
- 1:00:46Speaker 12: I would try to keep a few of those late
- 1:00:48Speaker 12: sixties early seventies one liners and throw them out there
- 1:00:52Speaker 12: to the next generation, and then they would look like.
- 1:00:54Speaker 1: Dude, I like that one. I'm going to use it.
- 1:00:56Speaker 1: You know, I said, just give me.
- 1:00:58Speaker 12: Some credit on it back end, but go know, feel
- 1:01:00Speaker 12: free to go with it again.
- 1:01:02Speaker 1: Lookies is when we used it.
- 1:01:03Speaker 3: Yeah, and Christmas wolf Cookies are the best. I mean,
- 1:01:07Speaker 3: so delicious. Jeans or is with us year CBS Rules
- 1:01:13Speaker 3: analyst joins us every week to talk about some of
- 1:01:16Speaker 3: the calls in the National Football League. Just curious since
- 1:01:20Speaker 3: before we get off the Chiefs game, now that Patrick
- 1:01:23Speaker 3: Mahomes is hurt, will NFL officials stop rigging games for
- 1:01:27Speaker 3: the Chiefs.
- 1:01:30Speaker 12: No, But more than likely what's going to really happen
- 1:01:32Speaker 12: is and it happened this year.
- 1:01:34Speaker 1: And it's ironic, isn't it. Like the last couple of.
- 1:01:37Speaker 12: Weeks the Chiefs they just didn't pull off the big wins.
- 1:01:41Speaker 12: And I think they lost six games within one possession
- 1:01:44Speaker 12: this year, so you know, they were probably a possession
- 1:01:47Speaker 12: away from the schedule or their you know, their record
- 1:01:50Speaker 12: looking different. But all of a sudden, it's like there
- 1:01:53Speaker 12: are a few penalties there against Kansas City and they're losing,
- 1:01:57Speaker 12: you know, And sometimes when you art to foul, you
- 1:02:01Speaker 12: start to lose. There'll be a new team here on
- 1:02:04Speaker 12: the horizon that will now be getting the unexpected favor
- 1:02:09Speaker 12: of the officials as they succeed as teams again. And
- 1:02:13Speaker 12: listen by the way those guys are playing up in
- 1:02:15Speaker 12: Seattle right now, they have a chance to be one
- 1:02:19Speaker 12: of those teams rather successful and it's fun to watch it.
- 1:02:22Speaker 3: Really is, all right, Well, let's talk about siks. There
- 1:02:24Speaker 3: are a couple of plays. I mean, we did win
- 1:02:26Speaker 3: the game, so we're not going to grouse too much
- 1:02:28Speaker 3: up here, but it did seem like there were a
- 1:02:31Speaker 3: couple obvious pis up to us up here in Seattle.
- 1:02:36Speaker 3: One on JSN in the first half, one against Rashishahid
- 1:02:40Speaker 3: in the second half. We assigned you to look those
- 1:02:43Speaker 3: up and tell us what you thought whether or not
- 1:02:46Speaker 3: we got screwed over there.
- 1:02:48Speaker 12: Yeah, I thought the first one was was a PI.
- 1:02:52Speaker 12: That's to play the deepest official on that sideline. It's
- 1:02:55Speaker 12: his receiver. It's the widest receiver. It's kind of man
- 1:02:58Speaker 12: to man one on one coverage. That's his lock in
- 1:03:01Speaker 12: key from snap to in this case, snap to ball.
- 1:03:05Speaker 12: That's a play you got to get. There's enough restriction there,
- 1:03:08Speaker 12: there's enough of a turn there that he put that
- 1:03:11Speaker 12: receiver at a disadvantage and really went beyond the rule
- 1:03:15Speaker 12: or what would be allowed. I would say, to give
- 1:03:18Speaker 12: him an opportunity that I felt.
- 1:03:19Speaker 1: Was a foul.
- 1:03:20Speaker 12: The other play, look, technically, I think if you throw,
- 1:03:24Speaker 12: nobody says too much for me. And again it's not
- 1:03:28Speaker 12: like I put this into my element all the time.
- 1:03:30Speaker 12: When I refereed. But if you watch that play, the
- 1:03:33Speaker 12: moment that d Bac got to Shahed, he kind of
- 1:03:37Speaker 12: puts his arms up in the air and soccer style immediately,
- 1:03:40Speaker 12: you know, as he started to run and the ball
- 1:03:43Speaker 12: is still a ball that you can make a play on.
- 1:03:46Speaker 12: And it was almost as if immediately when the contacts
- 1:03:49Speaker 12: and that defensive back started to snuggle when occur with him,
- 1:03:53Speaker 12: he was already in his I can't get to this
- 1:03:56Speaker 12: ball because of this contact action. I think if he
- 1:04:01Speaker 12: plays a little more and fights back through that defensive
- 1:04:04Speaker 12: player who did not have his back toward the football,
- 1:04:07Speaker 12: so he wasn't playing the ball, which means, you know,
- 1:04:09Speaker 12: contact to him becomes a little more technical or I'm
- 1:04:12Speaker 12: going to call it a little quicker because of that.
- 1:04:15Speaker 12: But I think if he doesn't just throw his arms
- 1:04:17Speaker 12: up like I'm giving up right now, as the ball
- 1:04:19Speaker 12: still was the three steps away from a play plant,
- 1:04:22Speaker 12: your legs start to work back towards the inside through
- 1:04:25Speaker 12: that defensive back who hadn't got his head around, and
- 1:04:28Speaker 12: I think that play becomes an easier play as far
- 1:04:31Speaker 12: as a foul is concerned. The tough part about it
- 1:04:34Speaker 12: is we know we've seen that play this year. This
- 1:04:37Speaker 12: is me speaking philosophically. I think it's I like those
- 1:04:40Speaker 12: plays as no calls. I think those plays just the
- 1:04:43Speaker 12: way that one blended and again the way he reacted.
- 1:04:46Speaker 1: To that initial contact and blending.
- 1:04:48Speaker 12: I would love that to be a consistent no call
- 1:04:51Speaker 12: because I think players adjust to that. But when we
- 1:04:54Speaker 12: see it throughout the league that as soon as that happens,
- 1:04:57Speaker 12: they know a flag is coming or it's coming more
- 1:04:59Speaker 12: often and than not.
- 1:05:01Speaker 1: I think we lend ourselves to that.
- 1:05:02Speaker 12: Behavior right where the expectation now is that's automatically they
- 1:05:06Speaker 12: called that. They called that last week or two weeks ago,
- 1:05:08Speaker 12: and it wasn't a lot of contact. So again that's
- 1:05:12Speaker 12: just a personal thought on that play. But then you know, look,
- 1:05:17Speaker 12: because of the contact, if they throw it and they
- 1:05:19Speaker 12: go to Gene and say, Gene, is that really enough
- 1:05:22Speaker 12: for passing appearance? Yeah, I can break that down and
- 1:05:24Speaker 12: tell you, yeah, he's not playing the ball. He makes
- 1:05:26Speaker 12: it a little early contact and make it you know,
- 1:05:29Speaker 12: and kind of agree with a call. But I like
- 1:05:31Speaker 12: it personally, Again, that's personal opinion that when I'd like
- 1:05:34Speaker 12: tould be looking at them and good fellas Man's game
- 1:05:37Speaker 12: today and I'll fight back and get the football here.
- 1:05:39Speaker 1: Give me something more to earn this. This is a
- 1:05:41Speaker 1: big file at a big game. Yeah, Geene.
- 1:05:44Speaker 5: There was a play in the Jets Jacksonville game where
- 1:05:48Speaker 5: the Saunders guy gets objected for making contact with official
- 1:05:51Speaker 5: and just first and foremost, even though there was times
- 1:05:53Speaker 5: I wanted to absolutely beat an umpire or two wow
- 1:05:56Speaker 5: over the course, I did several Yeah I didn't. I
- 1:05:59Speaker 5: didn't because that obviously is unacceptable. You just get mad
- 1:06:03Speaker 5: and leave it at being mad when it comes to that.
- 1:06:07Speaker 5: I'm all about protecting you guys, you know, especially when
- 1:06:10Speaker 5: if you guys make a call and somebody comes up
- 1:06:12Speaker 5: and shoves you or really is alluding to I'm mad
- 1:06:16Speaker 5: at you and I'm going to then get physical. That is,
- 1:06:18Speaker 5: there's no place for that, and I think punishment should
- 1:06:20Speaker 5: be severe. But is there a gray area where you
- 1:06:23Speaker 5: can make contact? I remember years ago somebody was celebrating
- 1:06:27Speaker 5: and just getting ready to do to a giant fist
- 1:06:29Speaker 5: bump and clocked a referee and it's like, okay, well
- 1:06:33Speaker 5: that he wasn't trying to do that on purpose. Is
- 1:06:35Speaker 5: that still a flag or is there a gray area
- 1:06:38Speaker 5: where you're like Okay, you're trying to break up a skirmish.
- 1:06:41Speaker 5: If a guy is just pushing people away from himself
- 1:06:44Speaker 5: and he actually touches an official, is that ejection worthy?
- 1:06:48Speaker 1: Oh that's a good point.
- 1:06:49Speaker 12: Look in my career, I always empathize with what the
- 1:06:54Speaker 12: players are dealing with.
- 1:06:55Speaker 1: And you have a couple of big guys that.
- 1:06:57Speaker 12: Are pushing and giving themselves a business a little bit
- 1:07:00Speaker 12: that hasn't elevated, but I need to break it up.
- 1:07:03Speaker 12: If I did make the decision to go in there
- 1:07:05Speaker 12: and try to separate these giants, I knew that if
- 1:07:09Speaker 12: I always felt like, if I go in there and
- 1:07:12Speaker 12: I catch a flipper or an arm flinging out where
- 1:07:15Speaker 12: he doesn't realize who it is, it's even trying to
- 1:07:17Speaker 12: separate him, and it just happens. And as you said,
- 1:07:20Speaker 12: incidental is the word. And now I get kind of
- 1:07:23Speaker 12: clocked for that. I put myself there. It's not mandatory
- 1:07:27Speaker 12: that I go in there and physically break you up.
- 1:07:29Speaker 12: I can blow my whistle five or six times. And
- 1:07:31Speaker 12: what I did, more than not buck quite honestly, to
- 1:07:34Speaker 12: not put myself in that situation, was I would blow
- 1:07:36Speaker 12: my whistle, which is allowed whistle in close proximity.
- 1:07:39Speaker 1: And then I would get it out of my mouth
- 1:07:41Speaker 1: and start.
- 1:07:41Speaker 12: Yelling that the play clock was running, which would always
- 1:07:45Speaker 12: stoke the offensive players because of the way they were trained,
- 1:07:48Speaker 12: like get yours out of here and go back to
- 1:07:50Speaker 12: the huddle, because they're going to have a delay a game.
- 1:07:52Speaker 12: When you yell the play clocks running on a football field,
- 1:07:55Speaker 12: when big guys are tied up, you'd be amazed how
- 1:07:58Speaker 12: quickly a lot of them separate this situation.
- 1:08:01Speaker 1: I can't tell you.
- 1:08:02Speaker 12: That's Boris Cheek, who is I think thirty plus years
- 1:08:05Speaker 12: in the NFL. It's his last year. He's been around
- 1:08:07Speaker 12: the business a long time. Did he talk to Saunders
- 1:08:11Speaker 12: a couple times throughout the game?
- 1:08:13Speaker 1: Was there something.
- 1:08:13Speaker 12: Else that happened in there at that moment that kind
- 1:08:17Speaker 12: of stoked him to go beyond incidental?
- 1:08:19Speaker 1: And it was like, look, I've been.
- 1:08:21Speaker 12: With you know, three times here in the last five
- 1:08:23Speaker 12: minutes on plays, and you hear me next to you
- 1:08:26Speaker 12: and you throw that arm in the direction of the voice.
- 1:08:29Speaker 12: You know. I don't want to read too much into it,
- 1:08:31Speaker 12: but there isn't a level of incidental contact that should
- 1:08:34Speaker 12: be permitted. But then I appreciate you saying it. It's
- 1:08:39Speaker 12: not easy when you're out there man, and that intensity,
- 1:08:41Speaker 12: and these guys are legitimately upset and a lot of
- 1:08:44Speaker 12: times for valid reasons that things happened. But contacting officials
- 1:08:49Speaker 12: we take extremely serious.
- 1:08:52Speaker 1: But I do think there's a window there.
- 1:08:54Speaker 12: To understand what incidental contact is and what happens in
- 1:08:57Speaker 12: the moment.
- 1:08:58Speaker 1: You know too, So that would be my take on it.
- 1:09:01Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know if you watched the Ohio State
- 1:09:03Speaker 3: Michigan game, but there was like a player that headbutted
- 1:09:06Speaker 3: an official and didn't even get tossed from the game.
- 1:09:08Speaker 3: He got a fifteen yard penalty, but it didn't even
- 1:09:10Speaker 3: get tossed from the game. It was very strange.
- 1:09:13Speaker 1: I did say it. Check yeah, yeah, and you're gone.
- 1:09:15Speaker 3: You're just gone, gone, right.
- 1:09:17Speaker 1: Gone, You're gone? Yeah, yet not even you're just gone.
- 1:09:21Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 1:09:21Speaker 12: I mean, those are plays where I'm a talker, as
- 1:09:24Speaker 12: you guys can tell, right, I mean, but there are
- 1:09:27Speaker 12: those moments in games where behaviors like that happen and everything.
- 1:09:31Speaker 1: Stopped and you're out of here.
- 1:09:34Speaker 12: Escort him out now, because no, that leads itself to
- 1:09:38Speaker 12: so many different layers of something that makes this game
- 1:09:40Speaker 12: not something we like, So yeah, I agree with you.
- 1:09:43Speaker 3: Well, I don't think that I'm going to get the
- 1:09:45Speaker 3: chance to wish you a happy holiday next week, so
- 1:09:47Speaker 3: I'm going to do it right now. And I'm very curious.
- 1:09:51Speaker 3: We all as children had that one Christmas gift that
- 1:09:56Speaker 3: we always remembered that kind of changed our entire childhood.
- 1:09:59Speaker 3: Was your there is a striped shirt and a whistle
- 1:10:02Speaker 3: by chance? Or is there something else?
- 1:10:07Speaker 1: You know?
- 1:10:08Speaker 12: Actually, I don't even really remember a gift that jumped out.
- 1:10:11Speaker 1: I mean, we were from an old school.
- 1:10:13Speaker 12: Italian family with seven kids, and the ref shirts because
- 1:10:17Speaker 12: of my late father.
- 1:10:18Speaker 1: They were in every room every year, every day.
- 1:10:21Speaker 12: You know, they were part of the couch furniture. That's
- 1:10:23Speaker 12: what you threw over the chair when it had a
- 1:10:25Speaker 12: whole winter, if the dog wanted to lay there in
- 1:10:28Speaker 12: the wintertime or something. So h But I think the
- 1:10:32Speaker 12: gifts that I remember most, quite frankly.
- 1:10:36Speaker 1: Were the ones that were either really.
- 1:10:38Speaker 12: Basic and required some creativity. I remember the erector set.
- 1:10:42Speaker 12: If that dates me a little bit, I know that
- 1:10:44Speaker 12: goes way back right and I look back and think
- 1:10:47Speaker 12: about that gift and think, hey, they put actual.
- 1:10:50Speaker 1: Steal in there.
- 1:10:51Speaker 12: You know it wasn't this plastic preformed stuff like this
- 1:10:55Speaker 12: was Like I remember opening up thinking, Hell, I can
- 1:10:58Speaker 12: build like a building with this, Like it was real
- 1:11:00Speaker 12: good material. I can fix the fender on the core
- 1:11:03Speaker 12: and the driveway with this stuff, you know. But looking back,
- 1:11:07Speaker 12: it was it was good to be part of such
- 1:11:10Speaker 12: a huge family, and the chaos of Christmas and the
- 1:11:12Speaker 12: joy of the family really was the greatest gift of all.
- 1:11:15Speaker 1: If that doesn't sound.
- 1:11:16Speaker 12: So warm and fuzzy, that's great here on a beautiful
- 1:11:19Speaker 12: Tuesday morning.
- 1:11:20Speaker 3: Yeah, well, Merry Christmas to you and yours. Thank you
- 1:11:23Speaker 3: so much for being with us all season long, and
- 1:11:26Speaker 3: look forward to more conversations here in the future.
- 1:11:30Speaker 12: Thanks guys, have a wonderful holiday and good luck this Thursday.
- 1:11:33Speaker 1: All right.
- 1:11:33Speaker 3: Jean Stator joining us right here on Chuck and Buck.
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- 1:11:52Speaker 3: Coming on next. Everett fits you, joins us, what's wrong
- 1:11:55Speaker 3: with the crack and we're gonna let the voice fix
- 1:11:56Speaker 3: at Sports Radio ninety three point.
- 1:11:58Speaker 2: Three, trying to have the voice joining us here again
- 1:12:12Speaker 2: on this Wednesday.
- 1:12:13Speaker 3: The Voice of your Seattle Cracking hasn't been called many
- 1:12:16Speaker 3: wins as a voate, but we're gonna get to the
- 1:12:18Speaker 3: bottom of that. Good morning Everett.
- 1:12:21Speaker 13: Good morning Chucky. Have you taken more vacations We talked
- 1:12:25Speaker 13: about this beginning of the year.
- 1:12:26Speaker 1: That's true.
- 1:12:27Speaker 13: You you took a break around Thanksgiving and you know
- 1:12:31Speaker 13: what happened.
- 1:12:32Speaker 1: We didn't win a couple of games. So were you
- 1:12:35Speaker 1: back home?
- 1:12:35Speaker 3: I have a couple more days off this upcoming week
- 1:12:40Speaker 3: going into the holiday, so maybe that reverses it. Maybe
- 1:12:44Speaker 3: that takes it right out of the content for Yeah,
- 1:12:47Speaker 3: you're right, Yeah, because light Wikie keeps sending me nasty emails. Yeah,
- 1:12:54Speaker 3: ever fits you the voice of your Seattle Cracking with
- 1:12:57Speaker 3: us right now? I mean, where is the alert level
- 1:13:02Speaker 3: around the organization right now? I mean this is eight
- 1:13:06Speaker 3: out of nine games that they have lost.
- 1:13:10Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean I think it depends on what circle
- 1:13:15Speaker 13: you run with, what room you walk into it at
- 1:13:19Speaker 13: any certain time, and they, I think in the locker room.
- 1:13:23Speaker 13: The most frustrating part about all of this is you
- 1:13:27Speaker 13: can see how hard the guys are working. You can
- 1:13:29Speaker 13: hear Channer Stevenson and Jordan Everley and Lane Lambert. You
- 1:13:33Speaker 13: can hear in their voices, you know, the the uncomfortability
- 1:13:38Speaker 13: with this situation because the players are playing hard. I
- 1:13:43Speaker 13: mean you almost you almost wish this was a stretch
- 1:13:47Speaker 13: of games where they're getting blown out by four or
- 1:13:49Speaker 13: five goals, because at least you can say, well, hey,
- 1:13:52Speaker 13: you know they don't have it, but this is the
- 1:13:54Speaker 13: team that's still limiting teams to two goals, maybe three goals.
- 1:13:58Speaker 13: They're getting burnt by, you know, a couple of mistakes,
- 1:14:02Speaker 13: a couple of empty net goals. And if you take
- 1:14:04Speaker 13: out the two oiler games, the nine to four and
- 1:14:07Speaker 13: the four nothing oiler losses, I mean, these have all
- 1:14:11Speaker 13: been games where the Kraken have been in a position
- 1:14:15Speaker 13: in the last five minutes of the third period to
- 1:14:19Speaker 13: minimally get a point to force overtime, if not get wins.
- 1:14:23Speaker 13: So that's that's the most frustrating piece about all of
- 1:14:26Speaker 13: this is that despite the record, the team isn't playing poorly.
- 1:14:31Speaker 13: They're not playing bad. It is a mistake here, it
- 1:14:35Speaker 13: is a bounce there, it is a it is a
- 1:14:38Speaker 13: momentary lack of detail here that is ultimately losing the
- 1:14:45Speaker 13: crack in these games.
- 1:14:47Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, obviously they're not intending to do it,
- 1:14:50Speaker 5: and yet yeah, it seems like it's similar fashions in
- 1:14:53Speaker 5: which they're doing it, whether it's close games and they're
- 1:14:56Speaker 5: just not finding a way to get the edge or
- 1:14:58Speaker 5: you know, and then regardless of the empty net goals
- 1:15:00Speaker 5: where it looks different on the scoreboard than the actual
- 1:15:03Speaker 5: game itself. So I'm where is the main thing, I
- 1:15:07Speaker 5: mean when you see him skating, you know, in practice,
- 1:15:09Speaker 5: and what is the main thing that they need to
- 1:15:11Speaker 5: shore up to find a way to just kind of
- 1:15:14Speaker 5: flip the tables a little bit.
- 1:15:16Speaker 13: Well, we've talked a lot about special teams, whether that's
- 1:15:18Speaker 13: the power player, the penalty kill. I mean, the penalty
- 1:15:21Speaker 13: kill is getting better as of late.
- 1:15:24Speaker 1: So they they were.
- 1:15:26Speaker 13: They allowed a power play goal in nine straight games,
- 1:15:29Speaker 13: and I think rock Bottom was the four for five
- 1:15:33Speaker 13: effort the Oilers had on the power play a couple
- 1:15:35Speaker 13: of weeks ago. So the power the penalty kill has improved.
- 1:15:38Speaker 13: The power play still continues to be a work in progress.
- 1:15:42Speaker 13: I've always contended that if you need one of the
- 1:15:46Speaker 13: units to be strong, i'd rather a strong penalty kill,
- 1:15:50Speaker 13: because that just takes away the momentum from the other team,
- 1:15:53Speaker 13: and that could really deflate a lineup and deflate a building.
- 1:15:57Speaker 1: Especially if you're on the road. So the PK is
- 1:16:00Speaker 1: going in the right way, it's still the offense. I
- 1:16:03Speaker 1: think it's still the offense.
- 1:16:04Speaker 13: It's still you know, the cracking are getting shots. You know,
- 1:16:07Speaker 13: the last six game or seven games, In five of
- 1:16:11Speaker 13: those games, Seattle has accounted for twenty eight or more shots.
- 1:16:14Speaker 13: So Ley Lambert has been saying, I want the guys
- 1:16:17Speaker 13: to be selfish. I want these guys to shoot more.
- 1:16:19Speaker 13: They're shooting more. They've run into some pretty good goaltenders
- 1:16:22Speaker 13: in the last couple of a couple of weeks. But
- 1:16:24Speaker 13: you know, all of these I understand our excuses, and
- 1:16:28Speaker 13: at the end of the day, we're in the NHL
- 1:16:30Speaker 13: to win hockey games. And laid as said multiple times,
- 1:16:34Speaker 13: the excuses are there. We're sick, we're hurt, we're injured.
- 1:16:37Speaker 13: No one cares. I don't care. We have to win
- 1:16:40Speaker 13: hockey games. And at a certain point, you gotta you
- 1:16:43Speaker 13: have to man up to a man. You have to
- 1:16:45Speaker 13: challenge each other internally collectively to get it done. So
- 1:16:51Speaker 13: you know it's gonna be a very difficult task tonight
- 1:16:55Speaker 13: against Colorado, the best team in the league. But Seattle
- 1:16:58Speaker 13: has played a lot of the top teams.
- 1:17:01Speaker 1: In the league.
- 1:17:02Speaker 13: They played them pretty close this season, and they've gotten
- 1:17:05Speaker 13: a couple of wins that, on paper around the league
- 1:17:10Speaker 13: probably were unexpected.
- 1:17:12Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm tired of Lane using me and my
- 1:17:16Speaker 3: vacation time as an excuse in the locker room.
- 1:17:18Speaker 1: That's right on the board.
- 1:17:20Speaker 13: Ye see what the side says, because this is an.
- 1:17:23Speaker 12: FCC regulator show, But it's it's not kind.
- 1:17:28Speaker 3: He's not mixing words, is what you're saying. Yeah, Well,
- 1:17:31Speaker 3: let's talk about this Colorado team, because I don't know
- 1:17:34Speaker 3: if everybody's aware of what they're doing so far this year.
- 1:17:37Speaker 3: They've lost two games this season. Who this entire season
- 1:17:42Speaker 3: twenty six wins, two losses. And I already thought Everett
- 1:17:46Speaker 3: that Nathan McKinnon was the best player in hockey and
- 1:17:49Speaker 3: just didn't get credit for that. And he's leading the
- 1:17:52Speaker 3: league in pretty much everything. So what on earth? What
- 1:17:56Speaker 3: kind of a buzzsaw have the Avalanche turned into in
- 1:17:59Speaker 3: twenty twenty five.
- 1:18:00Speaker 13: Well, they've calmed down, they've cooled off a little bit.
- 1:18:03Speaker 1: They're only seven to one and two in their last
- 1:18:06Speaker 1: ten games.
- 1:18:06Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, they've they've pulled down quite a bit from
- 1:18:10Speaker 13: where they've been. I mean, listen, it doesn't get more
- 1:18:14Speaker 13: complete than the Colorado Avalanche when when you look at
- 1:18:18Speaker 13: their their top line is is arguably the best trio
- 1:18:23Speaker 13: right now in the NHL. They can score from the
- 1:18:27Speaker 13: blue line. Defensively, they leave the league in scoring with
- 1:18:30Speaker 13: obviously Kill mccarr and and Devon Tamees back there their goaltending,
- 1:18:34Speaker 13: they the wood Shed Mackenzie Blackwood and Scott Wedgewood. Scott
- 1:18:37Speaker 13: Wedgwood already up to fourteen wins this season, So, I mean,
- 1:18:41Speaker 13: it is it is remarkable what's going on in in Denver.
- 1:18:45Speaker 13: And this is the team that you know, two thousand
- 1:18:48Speaker 13: and two, they're they're coming up on or twenty two. Rather,
- 1:18:52Speaker 13: they're coming up on five years since they've won the Cup,
- 1:18:55Speaker 13: and a lot of people will tell you within that
- 1:18:58Speaker 13: five year window, you know you need to start either
- 1:19:02Speaker 13: retooling or you need to tear it down. Very few
- 1:19:05Speaker 13: teams can stay that consistent for that long and the
- 1:19:08Speaker 13: Avalanche have been one of those teams that have been
- 1:19:11Speaker 13: able to retool. I remember last season after a first
- 1:19:15Speaker 13: round exit to Dallas, fans in Denver were calling to
- 1:19:18Speaker 13: blow up the team. They were calling for Jared Bennar,
- 1:19:21Speaker 13: They're head coach to be fired. And it's like, guys,
- 1:19:24Speaker 13: you just came off the Cup a few years ago
- 1:19:27Speaker 13: and you just made the playoffs. I think it's now
- 1:19:31Speaker 13: five six years in a row for the Avalanche, So
- 1:19:34Speaker 13: they're now getting back to a place of dominance. I mean,
- 1:19:38Speaker 13: everybody had Colorado on paper winning the Cup before the
- 1:19:42Speaker 13: season started. I think now that has just been solidified more.
- 1:19:46Speaker 13: They made a couple of big trades last year. They
- 1:19:48Speaker 13: had a couple of big free agency signings that have
- 1:19:51Speaker 13: paid off dividends for them, and Brock Nelson, Martin Hius,
- 1:19:54Speaker 13: and Brent Burns. So this is I mean, not arguably,
- 1:19:59Speaker 13: this is definitely going to be Seattle's toughest game to date.
- 1:20:03Speaker 13: But like I've said before, this kracking team, they have
- 1:20:07Speaker 13: beaten the league's best this year. I go back to
- 1:20:12Speaker 13: a game in Winnipeg in early noir late October where
- 1:20:17Speaker 13: the Kraken shut out Winnipeg on their home ice three nothing.
- 1:20:20Speaker 13: It was just the third time Winnipeg had been shut
- 1:20:23Speaker 13: out at home in two seasons and just their fifth
- 1:20:27Speaker 13: or seventh loss at the time, seventh home loss in
- 1:20:31Speaker 13: the last two years overall. They then come back home
- 1:20:34Speaker 13: and beat Edmonton three to two. That was their first
- 1:20:37Speaker 13: win over the Oilers in eight tries. So I mean,
- 1:20:41Speaker 13: for Seattle, this isn't new. Playing the top teams in
- 1:20:45Speaker 13: the league isn't new, And maybe this could be that
- 1:20:48Speaker 13: turnaround wake up call that this team has been waiting for.
- 1:20:51Speaker 13: I'll tell you what, if the Kracken want to win
- 1:20:53Speaker 13: this one, it's going to be a defensive game. This
- 1:20:55Speaker 13: is not going to be a four to four, three
- 1:20:57Speaker 13: five four Kracking win. I mean, this is going to
- 1:20:59Speaker 13: be a greasy, grinding game. If the crack had won
- 1:21:04Speaker 13: a half success well.
- 1:21:06Speaker 3: I can't imagine a better spark though, for a team
- 1:21:08Speaker 3: that needs one, is to pull an up set against
- 1:21:11Speaker 3: at home against the best team in the NHL. So
- 1:21:14Speaker 3: all right, let's get that done tonight. Thank you, sir,
- 1:21:16Speaker 3: We appreciate it, and we will be listening.
- 1:21:19Speaker 1: All right, sounds good fellas, Ashley, take care.
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- 1:21:37Speaker 3: By the way, how about getting Shane Wright going? Can't
- 1:21:39Speaker 3: wait to talk to Al about this tomorrow. No assists
- 1:21:42Speaker 3: since December fourth for Shane Wright, no goal since November twentieth,
- 1:21:48Speaker 3: and he is seventeenth on the roster in ice time seventeenth.
- 1:21:51Speaker 3: Oh wow, wasn't this supposed to be the big step
- 1:21:54Speaker 3: forward year for Shane Wright? So yeah, very big mystery
- 1:21:58Speaker 3: there from Shane Wright this season?
- 1:22:00Speaker 1: All right?
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- 1:22:54Speaker 3: All right, nine o'clock hour here on this Tuesday, And
- 1:22:57Speaker 3: I mean we devote time to talking so college football
- 1:23:01Speaker 3: with the best. Rick new Isel is wes former head
- 1:23:04Speaker 3: coach and current studio analyst at CBS Sports, and we
- 1:23:10Speaker 3: get to lean on him every Tuesday at this time,
- 1:23:12Speaker 3: and there's a lot of college football to discuss. Come morning, coach,
- 1:23:16Speaker 3: how are you my friend? We are great? How are
- 1:23:18Speaker 3: you doing?
- 1:23:20Speaker 11: No bad news here? I get to go and caddy
- 1:23:23Speaker 11: for my son today. What so that's that's always a blast.
- 1:23:27Speaker 3: Okay. How good a golfer is he? What are we talking?
- 1:23:29Speaker 1: He's a good golf Yeah.
- 1:23:31Speaker 11: He right now is tied for twelfth at an ASHER
- 1:23:34Speaker 11: Tour event at Silverado in Napa, California. I thought I
- 1:23:38Speaker 11: was brilliant on the reads yesterday, shot two under. Now
- 1:23:41Speaker 11: we have to go low today.
- 1:23:42Speaker 3: Okay, all right, so you're a good caddy.
- 1:23:45Speaker 1: Then he listens I am an excellent caddy.
- 1:23:48Speaker 11: I am an excellent caddy if he only listened to
- 1:23:50Speaker 11: me all the time.
- 1:23:53Speaker 5: Kids.
- 1:23:56Speaker 3: Well, look, I don't want to ignore this. I think
- 1:23:59Speaker 3: that that would sort of be wrong to do, since
- 1:24:02Speaker 3: we discussed it so much last week. Uh So I
- 1:24:05Speaker 3: just wanted to say that I was rooting for you
- 1:24:08Speaker 3: to get the Koog's job. I realized that it didn't
- 1:24:11Speaker 3: come together. But I'm with your colleague, Brian Jones. Uh,
- 1:24:14Speaker 3: I'm happy that you're still on that set at CBS
- 1:24:17Speaker 3: because I would have missed you there.
- 1:24:20Speaker 11: Well, you're kind. I had a great experience being involved
- 1:24:25Speaker 11: in the conversation with the Cougar's got to talk to
- 1:24:28Speaker 11: a lot of boosters and such, which was always a
- 1:24:32Speaker 11: treat and uh but unfortunately he didn't get to talk
- 1:24:36Speaker 11: to the main people. So wish Kirby Moore the best.
- 1:24:40Speaker 11: We'll see how the co can do next year.
- 1:24:42Speaker 5: What is it about this Kirby Moore? And do you
- 1:24:45Speaker 5: know much about this guy?
- 1:24:47Speaker 1: Uh?
- 1:24:48Speaker 11: You know, he's Kellen Moore's brother. He obviously had a
- 1:24:50Speaker 11: nice year.
- 1:24:53Speaker 1: With Missouri.
- 1:24:54Speaker 8: Uh.
- 1:24:55Speaker 11: He and Eli Drinkletz cobble together a heck of an offense.
- 1:24:58Speaker 11: You know, I Almud Hardy, the kid that transferred from
- 1:25:02Speaker 11: Louisiana Monroe had an epic year, So they'll be able
- 1:25:05Speaker 11: to run the ball, assuming that they'll have the personnel
- 1:25:08Speaker 11: for such. You know, it's a it's a good hire.
- 1:25:10Speaker 11: He's a kid from the state of Washington and hopefully
- 1:25:15Speaker 11: he'll have great success.
- 1:25:17Speaker 3: All Right, Rick new Isiel is with us our college
- 1:25:19Speaker 3: football insider. Let's move on to other discussions.
- 1:25:23Speaker 4: Then.
- 1:25:24Speaker 3: How many programs and fan bases right now are being
- 1:25:27Speaker 3: held hostage by Michigan until they make the decision on
- 1:25:32Speaker 3: this head coach?
- 1:25:34Speaker 11: Well, you're you're It's an interesting point, and I promise
- 1:25:37Speaker 11: you the agents are using it as leverage because not
- 1:25:42Speaker 11: only are you having to kind of sit there, if
- 1:25:46Speaker 11: you're an athletic director wondering if your guy is going
- 1:25:48Speaker 11: to get a call from Michigan, you've got to wonder if, like,
- 1:25:51Speaker 11: for instance, if Jed were to get a call, who's
- 1:25:54Speaker 11: Washington going to reach out to.
- 1:25:56Speaker 3: Right, somebody's getting stole one way or the other.
- 1:25:58Speaker 11: Yeah, the musical chairs are going to get played. So
- 1:26:02Speaker 11: you got to be kind of two steps ahead if
- 1:26:05Speaker 11: you're going to make sure that you're not left without
- 1:26:08Speaker 11: a chair. And so that's that's what's complicated, especially at
- 1:26:12Speaker 11: this time of year when we're supposed to be focusing
- 1:26:14Speaker 11: on the postseason. We're doing anything.
- 1:26:17Speaker 1: But are you.
- 1:26:17Speaker 3: Hearing anything out of ann Arbor that who they might
- 1:26:21Speaker 3: be leaning toward.
- 1:26:23Speaker 11: It makes all the sense in the world that they
- 1:26:25Speaker 11: would that they would communicate with Jet just because he's
- 1:26:29Speaker 11: been there and he's been successful and such. Now the
- 1:26:32Speaker 11: only negative may be that he's been there and he
- 1:26:36Speaker 11: was there with Jim Harbaugh because a lot of this
- 1:26:38Speaker 11: stuff that's gone down on a negative side. I don't
- 1:26:43Speaker 11: know if it's a direct correlation. I think that would
- 1:26:45Speaker 11: be unfair, but I think it's at least fair to
- 1:26:48Speaker 11: say that there's you know, the Matt Weiss is the
- 1:26:51Speaker 11: guy who's now involved in an FBI del Sheron Moore
- 1:26:55Speaker 11: who's got himself in an unbelievable world of trouble. You know,
- 1:27:00Speaker 11: those guys could both be doing prison time. I mean,
- 1:27:03Speaker 11: that's that is incredible that we're talking about that with
- 1:27:07Speaker 11: the program as you know, at the top of the heap,
- 1:27:11Speaker 11: as Michigan is. So I don't know what the folks
- 1:27:16Speaker 11: that Michigan will say as we get in our car
- 1:27:20Speaker 11: and head Silverada to take you know, shoot low number.
- 1:27:25Speaker 11: That's the seat belt bell that you're hearing. But I'm
- 1:27:31Speaker 11: just giving you a play by play. You know, you
- 1:27:33Speaker 11: want to know exactly what's happening here tea time just
- 1:27:37Speaker 11: around the corner.
- 1:27:38Speaker 8: But no, it's a it's a it's a it's.
- 1:27:41Speaker 11: A predicament and then some And the real question at
- 1:27:44Speaker 11: Michigan is who's going to make the higher because ward
- 1:27:46Speaker 11: manual he's got to be in a little bit of
- 1:27:50Speaker 11: hot water as well.
- 1:27:51Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, what do you read into when it comes
- 1:27:55Speaker 5: to some of the coaches that are being you know,
- 1:27:59Speaker 5: kind of brought up on this topic, Kalen Board basically
- 1:28:01Speaker 5: just saying nope, not going to do it. But then again,
- 1:28:03Speaker 5: we've heard that before. You know, Jedfish hasn't necessarily pushed
- 1:28:06Speaker 5: all the smoke out of the room, but he's said
- 1:28:09Speaker 5: a couple of times that he's not interested, that he's
- 1:28:11Speaker 5: happy where he's at. Katie Dillingham broke down into tears
- 1:28:14Speaker 5: as if he was breaking up with, you know, his
- 1:28:16Speaker 5: high school girlfriend. Are you reading anything into it or
- 1:28:20Speaker 5: is that just that's just the nature of the beast,
- 1:28:22Speaker 5: Because you don't want to go back on your word,
- 1:28:24Speaker 5: even if there's something better.
- 1:28:25Speaker 11: I think it's the nature of the beast. I mean,
- 1:28:29Speaker 11: it's very very difficult to tell everything that the cards
- 1:28:34Speaker 11: that are sitting their face down, it's very difficult to
- 1:28:38Speaker 11: do that. I don't know that, you know, I've made
- 1:28:42Speaker 11: some mistakes in that regard, having said something that I
- 1:28:45Speaker 11: probably shouldn't have said, you know, and not being as
- 1:28:48Speaker 11: forthcoming as I should have been in my life.
- 1:28:51Speaker 8: With respect to this.
- 1:28:52Speaker 11: And you always think you're doing the right thing by
- 1:28:55Speaker 11: holding back your cards, but the truth of the matter
- 1:28:57Speaker 11: is you just need to say nothing, and so in
- 1:29:01Speaker 11: saying nothing, you can't be held liable for saying something
- 1:29:05Speaker 11: that turned out to be untrue. So I think everybody's
- 1:29:09Speaker 11: saying what they think at the time, and it can
- 1:29:12Speaker 11: always defend it. That's how I felt at the time.
- 1:29:14Speaker 8: But when the.
- 1:29:15Speaker 11: Next day you're moving on, or the next hour you're
- 1:29:18Speaker 11: moving on, that's because new news came in and it's
- 1:29:21Speaker 11: something that they can't turn down. It's one of those
- 1:29:23Speaker 11: things I just remind people. Don't hate the player, hate
- 1:29:25Speaker 11: the game. And this is all attributed to the fact
- 1:29:28Speaker 11: that this well, in this particular case, it's because of
- 1:29:31Speaker 11: an incident that none of us could have predicted, but
- 1:29:34Speaker 11: mostly it's determined because of a calendar that's just completely wacky.
- 1:29:39Speaker 11: It doesn't make any sense, and the people that are
- 1:29:42Speaker 11: in charge of college football should and can do better.
- 1:29:45Speaker 3: Can that get fixed to this offseason? Like some of
- 1:29:48Speaker 3: these calendar issues.
- 1:29:51Speaker 11: To me, they can get fixed tomorrow if we just
- 1:29:55Speaker 11: get in a room. People in the room. There needs
- 1:29:59Speaker 11: to be coaches in the room. There needs to be
- 1:30:01Speaker 11: a representative for the players in the room. There needs
- 1:30:04Speaker 11: to be the commissioners in the room. There needs to
- 1:30:07Speaker 11: be the presidents in the room, and there needs to
- 1:30:09Speaker 11: be the TV.
- 1:30:09Speaker 1: People in the room.
- 1:30:10Speaker 11: And they need to sit there and say, here's what's
- 1:30:12Speaker 11: important to us, and then we can figure this out. Well,
- 1:30:16Speaker 11: who don't need to be who don't need to be
- 1:30:17Speaker 11: in the room are the kids that are being recruited
- 1:30:21Speaker 11: out of high school right now because they can. To me,
- 1:30:25Speaker 11: hurrying them to get to college in January is a
- 1:30:30Speaker 11: disservice to them. I don't know why you have to
- 1:30:33Speaker 11: start college semester early. You're not playing games in that semester.
- 1:30:38Speaker 11: You need to let these kids have their senior year.
- 1:30:42Speaker 11: But there's a race now, especially with finances as part
- 1:30:45Speaker 11: of it. We're seeing all sorts of states around the country,
- 1:30:48Speaker 11: you know, trying to make sure nil is available for
- 1:30:50Speaker 11: high school athletes. I mean, it's goofy, and we need
- 1:30:56Speaker 11: to come to grips with the fact that we're letting
- 1:30:59Speaker 11: the cart run the horse.
- 1:31:00Speaker 3: College football, it's goofy. That's going to be the new
- 1:31:03Speaker 3: tagline heading into the offseason.
- 1:31:05Speaker 11: Rick new Isel is with us, and yet yet it's impenetrable.
- 1:31:11Speaker 1: It always delivers.
- 1:31:12Speaker 11: It's still the best game.
- 1:31:13Speaker 3: I think Aaron Taylor said it best. It's never been
- 1:31:16Speaker 3: more popular, it's never been more interesting, and yet it's
- 1:31:19Speaker 3: never been more vulnerable than what it is right now.
- 1:31:23Speaker 3: I think that's really well said on another of your
- 1:31:26Speaker 3: colleague's parts from Saturday.
- 1:31:28Speaker 11: Glad you're watching our guys.
- 1:31:30Speaker 3: Oh, of course, glad you're watching us? Of course, Yes,
- 1:31:33Speaker 3: Rick new Isel is with us, our college football insider
- 1:31:36Speaker 3: and Caddy extraordinary right here on Chuck and Buck in
- 1:31:40Speaker 3: the morning.
- 1:31:41Speaker 11: For the stars, I like to say, Caddy for the stars.
- 1:31:45Speaker 3: All right, let's talk about these college football playoff games.
- 1:31:47Speaker 3: They'll start on Friday. I mean Alabama Oklahoma on paper
- 1:31:51Speaker 3: eight verses nine. This is supposed to be the best
- 1:31:53Speaker 3: game of the weekend. Will it turn out to be?
- 1:31:56Speaker 11: I think it's going to be a wail of the game.
- 1:31:58Speaker 11: The first time they played this year, neither had one
- 1:32:01Speaker 11: hundred yards rushing, So defense is going to be the
- 1:32:06Speaker 11: key here. Unfortunately for Alabama, Ty Simpson, who looked like
- 1:32:11Speaker 11: I think he was the favorite for the Heisman Trophy
- 1:32:14Speaker 11: in some point late September early October, has fallen on
- 1:32:19Speaker 11: some hard times in the last couple of games. He's
- 1:32:22Speaker 11: been barely fifty percent when he was sitting there at
- 1:32:24Speaker 11: around seventy five percent, So for him to come out
- 1:32:29Speaker 11: as the victorious quarterback over John Mattier, to me, he's
- 1:32:33Speaker 11: going to have to get back into that seventy range,
- 1:32:35Speaker 11: which means that they're going to have to cobble together
- 1:32:38Speaker 11: some quick throws, tight ends, and backs are going to
- 1:32:41Speaker 11: have to be involved rather than just the three high
- 1:32:43Speaker 11: flying wide receivers because you don't have a lot of
- 1:32:47Speaker 11: time to throw when our Mason Thomas and the rest
- 1:32:50Speaker 11: of that Oklahoma Sooner defense gets their ears pinned back.
- 1:32:54Speaker 5: How excited are you for the Saturday games? Anyone in
- 1:32:57Speaker 5: particular stand out to you?
- 1:33:00Speaker 11: Oh yeah, that one in College Station Miami at Texas
- 1:33:03Speaker 11: A and M is going to be a great game.
- 1:33:05Speaker 11: Miami is a terrific team. Carson Beck knows all about
- 1:33:09Speaker 11: the Aggies, having been in the SEC. I don't know
- 1:33:12Speaker 11: that they played them, but they certainly saw them on
- 1:33:15Speaker 11: film as they got ready for all their other SEC games.
- 1:33:18Speaker 11: This is all going to be about Aggie's pass rush.
- 1:33:21Speaker 11: If the Cassius Howls of the world can get home
- 1:33:24Speaker 11: and make that third d M down defense be as
- 1:33:27Speaker 11: potent as it was all season long for the Aggies.
- 1:33:30Speaker 11: In a home crowd, remember that crowd will get going,
- 1:33:32Speaker 11: so snap council be a problem for the Miami front.
- 1:33:36Speaker 11: You get Carson Beck under heat, he'll turn the ball over.
- 1:33:40Speaker 11: And that's exactly how they lost those two games to
- 1:33:43Speaker 11: both Louisville and SMU.
- 1:33:45Speaker 3: Maybe the two best pass rushers in the country, Bain
- 1:33:48Speaker 3: and Howell going against each other in this game, Miami.
- 1:33:52Speaker 3: That's right, Texas A and M. If there was to
- 1:33:55Speaker 3: be a major upset involving one of the group of
- 1:33:59Speaker 3: five teams that made it into this tournament, which of
- 1:34:02Speaker 3: the two games would you say will end that way?
- 1:34:07Speaker 11: It's difficult to figure that out. It's difficult to figure
- 1:34:12Speaker 11: that out when you're talking about James Madison because they
- 1:34:18Speaker 11: didn't play anybody. Their lone loss was to Louisville. They
- 1:34:22Speaker 11: lost that game twenty eight to fourteen. I think their
- 1:34:25Speaker 11: schedule rank was like one hundred and twenty fourth. This
- 1:34:28Speaker 11: is not a banner year for the Sun Belt, so
- 1:34:31Speaker 11: it's difficult. But to me, James Madison seems like a
- 1:34:34Speaker 11: heck of a team. You can't blame somebody just because
- 1:34:37Speaker 11: they didn't play anybody. But I worry when they get
- 1:34:41Speaker 11: to Oregon that they're going to be a little bit overmatch.
- 1:34:44Speaker 11: So I'm going to go with Tulane. I'm going to
- 1:34:46Speaker 11: think Tulane learned something the first time they played Ole Miss,
- 1:34:49Speaker 11: and Retslof will have to be miles better than he
- 1:34:53Speaker 11: was the first time. And if that happens, and given
- 1:34:56Speaker 11: all the confusion in Hotty Toddy Land, yeah, let's say
- 1:34:58Speaker 11: Tulane can give him a game.
- 1:35:00Speaker 5: How how important or how how big of a deal
- 1:35:03Speaker 5: could it be with the old miss all of the
- 1:35:05Speaker 5: stuff going on outside? I mean, is that something that's
- 1:35:08Speaker 5: gonna be tough for these young men to uh kind
- 1:35:11Speaker 5: of put out of their mind.
- 1:35:13Speaker 1: Bucky.
- 1:35:13Speaker 11: It feels like this has got to be all about
- 1:35:16Speaker 11: the players. It's got to be all about those guys.
- 1:35:18Speaker 11: You can imagine how many conversations they've had with either
- 1:35:21Speaker 11: their own personal agents, former coaches who are now at LSU,
- 1:35:26Speaker 11: are you going to come with us? And all that
- 1:35:28Speaker 11: kind of stuff. If if the people in that locker
- 1:35:31Speaker 11: room can focus and look at each other and say,
- 1:35:33Speaker 11: because they know each other is getting the calls, if
- 1:35:36Speaker 11: they can say, hey, listen, we're not messing with any
- 1:35:38Speaker 11: of this now, We're going to finish our season. It's
- 1:35:41Speaker 11: too damn important and we're too damn close. Because they've
- 1:35:44Speaker 11: got a good they've got a good draw. I mean,
- 1:35:47Speaker 11: if they win this game against Tulane, they're going to
- 1:35:49Speaker 11: the Sugar Bowl to play Georgia, and they had Georgia
- 1:35:52Speaker 11: down nine in Athens. You don't you can imagine they
- 1:35:56Speaker 11: would love another shot at that and then they're in.
- 1:35:58Speaker 11: If you win that one, you're in Sevins. So Ole
- 1:36:01Speaker 11: miss is in rare air right now. They've never won
- 1:36:04Speaker 11: this many games. This leadership of the team has to
- 1:36:08Speaker 11: be come to.
- 1:36:11Speaker 1: Great.
- 1:36:12Speaker 11: If it isn't a player led team, then this is
- 1:36:15Speaker 11: going to end pretty quickly.
- 1:36:16Speaker 3: Caddy for the Stars. Rick new Eisel joining us to
- 1:36:19Speaker 3: talk some college football here this morning. College football playoff
- 1:36:22Speaker 3: gets started on Friday. When it's all said and done,
- 1:36:25Speaker 3: who's winning the national championship?
- 1:36:28Speaker 11: I got Ohio State again. I've got them beat in
- 1:36:31Speaker 11: Texas Tech in the final. I think Texas Tech knocks
- 1:36:34Speaker 11: off Indiana. I think, and you know what, it'll be
- 1:36:39Speaker 11: good for college football. The conversation that will be around
- 1:36:42Speaker 11: that game, if the Red Raiders are in the final,
- 1:36:45Speaker 11: will be Okay, they were picked to finish sixth or
- 1:36:48Speaker 11: seventh in the Big Twelve. They basically bought their roster
- 1:36:53Speaker 11: and have They now are in a position where is
- 1:36:59Speaker 11: this is the way of college football. You can buy
- 1:37:03Speaker 11: the wins. I mean, we're talking about Brennan Sorosby, the
- 1:37:05Speaker 11: quarterback at Cincinnati, being rumored to be going and being
- 1:37:09Speaker 11: the next Indiana quarterback at five million a year. That's
- 1:37:12Speaker 11: that's incredible.
- 1:37:14Speaker 3: By the way, if you want to you want to
- 1:37:16Speaker 3: guarantee something, since Damon Ryola is the single white female
- 1:37:22Speaker 3: of college football, he will be a Texas Tech Red
- 1:37:25Speaker 3: Raider next year. There's you can book it, you know,
- 1:37:28Speaker 3: bank it.
- 1:37:28Speaker 11: Well, Oh my goodness, they have another kid, though, Will
- 1:37:32Speaker 11: Hammond that came in off the bench this year.
- 1:37:35Speaker 8: That's pretty dark.
- 1:37:36Speaker 11: Good so, and I'm not sure how much I believe
- 1:37:40Speaker 11: in Dylan Reyola is a great player, but there's no
- 1:37:42Speaker 11: question he looks like Mahomes.
- 1:37:44Speaker 3: He's deliberately trying to I'll say that, there's no question,
- 1:37:49Speaker 3: and we're going to get We're going to get more
- 1:37:51Speaker 3: arch madness next year. Good decision by him, right.
- 1:37:56Speaker 11: Oh, clearly, clearly.
- 1:37:58Speaker 8: And listen.
- 1:38:00Speaker 11: Thing about his family is they know how good college
- 1:38:04Speaker 11: football is.
- 1:38:04Speaker 1: They know how.
- 1:38:06Speaker 11: Important these years are to have his memories and such.
- 1:38:09Speaker 11: So there's no hurry for him. I think he'll be
- 1:38:13Speaker 11: a first round quarterback. I think he'll I don't know
- 1:38:16Speaker 11: that they'll have the career of his uncles, but I
- 1:38:19Speaker 11: think he's going to get that chance, and no reason
- 1:38:22Speaker 11: to hurry the process as he's at one of the
- 1:38:25Speaker 11: premier institutions and kin to have a lot of talent
- 1:38:28Speaker 11: around him next year.
- 1:38:29Speaker 3: All right, well, we're going to let you go. Let
- 1:38:30Speaker 3: you go focus on your responsibilities to your son today
- 1:38:33Speaker 3: and to the sports world. Let's close with your Taco
- 1:38:37Speaker 3: Time pick of the week of all the games this weekend,
- 1:38:39Speaker 3: which do you feel the best about.
- 1:38:42Speaker 11: I'm going to take the Oregon Ducks silver James Madison.
- 1:38:45Speaker 11: I'll lay the points and I don't worry about it.
- 1:38:49Speaker 11: I think the Ducks are going to have their day though,
- 1:38:52Speaker 11: And for Bucky's case, it's fly, fly and fly some
- 1:38:56Speaker 11: more fly.
- 1:38:57Speaker 5: They might be getting as healthy as they have been
- 1:38:59Speaker 5: all year too, just in time.
- 1:39:02Speaker 3: All right, Well, have fun today, enjoy the golf, and
- 1:39:05Speaker 3: we'll talk to you again next week.
- 1:39:07Speaker 11: Just just know this, you boys listen to me a
- 1:39:10Speaker 11: hell of a lot more than my son will here
- 1:39:12Speaker 11: in the next day.
- 1:39:16Speaker 1: I believe you.
- 1:39:17Speaker 3: I believe I could get there in two. Yeah, I'll
- 1:39:19Speaker 3: trust you on that.
- 1:39:23Speaker 11: Thanks than holidays, we'll talk souit all right.
- 1:39:26Speaker 3: Sounds great. Rick new Isael joining us right here our
- 1:39:29Speaker 3: College Football Insider, a segment brought to you by Taco Time.
- 1:39:33Speaker 3: You look forward to that one day, Caddy in for
- 1:39:36Speaker 3: your son alling around the golf course.
- 1:39:39Speaker 5: Not yet, not yet, because right now we'll go to
- 1:39:41Speaker 5: the golf and he doesn't listen to a damn thing.
- 1:39:44Speaker 5: He just is like, I'm just trying to hit it
- 1:39:46Speaker 5: too far dead like, Yeah, that's not the whole point though.
- 1:39:49Speaker 5: There's direction that comes in play here and how many
- 1:39:53Speaker 5: times you hit it matters. It's kind of a really
- 1:39:56Speaker 5: important part. And he's like, I'm just trying to hit
- 1:39:57Speaker 5: it for Yeah, he gets that his mama.
- 1:40:00Speaker 3: Guess when are you going to have your first father
- 1:40:02Speaker 3: son scramble against.
- 1:40:04Speaker 5: Dick Fane and Dixon Fane. Oh that's going to be
- 1:40:07Speaker 5: a while. Dixon Fane is good. Pretty sure I could
- 1:40:12Speaker 5: whoop his dad right now. But I don't think Bert
- 1:40:15Speaker 5: could hold up with Dixon just yet.
- 1:40:16Speaker 6: Yeah, Dixon would be the problem.
- 1:40:18Speaker 3: That's problems Palmer.
- 1:40:21Speaker 7: She's gotten better since for softball. Actually, she's saying she
- 1:40:24Speaker 7: can hit the ball a lot further.
- 1:40:26Speaker 3: Now, does she have a choice She probably doesn't in
- 1:40:29Speaker 3: your household, of whether she's going to play golf or not.
- 1:40:31Speaker 6: Not really, no, no, But she chooses too. She likes to. Okay, yeah,
- 1:40:35Speaker 6: she'll ask if she can go out sick.
- 1:40:39Speaker 5: Yeah, they're very sick, really, the one.
- 1:40:42Speaker 6: Whose name is five iron.
- 1:40:44Speaker 3: Especially, Yeah, he's he's a little wacky.
- 1:40:47Speaker 1: He's a lot wacky.
- 1:40:48Speaker 5: Yeah, and we're not just talking about golf here.
- 1:40:51Speaker 7: Apparently when you are that wacky you get pretty good
- 1:40:54Speaker 7: when you play a lot.
- 1:40:54Speaker 1: Who knew, bet?
- 1:40:55Speaker 8: I bet?
- 1:40:56Speaker 3: Yeah? I think I asked him, how often would you play?
- 1:41:00Speaker 3: Would never stop playing?
- 1:41:01Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 1:41:02Speaker 3: I would just play eighteen, have a snack and play.
- 1:41:04Speaker 7: Eighteen was like his saddest moment of his whole life
- 1:41:08Speaker 7: when he was working from home, had his computer set
- 1:41:12Speaker 7: up downstairs, and he couldn't play golf because the course
- 1:41:15Speaker 7: was closed.
- 1:41:15Speaker 6: So he just looked at an empty golf course all
- 1:41:18Speaker 6: day long.
- 1:41:18Speaker 3: Of all the things to shut down, though.
- 1:41:20Speaker 6: They shut it down for a couple of weeks to
- 1:41:22Speaker 6: a month, and then they opened it and they're like, wait.
- 1:41:24Speaker 5: A minute, this don't touch the flags.
- 1:41:26Speaker 6: Yeah, you couldn't.
- 1:41:28Speaker 7: They put styrofoam in the cups so that the ball wouldn't.
- 1:41:31Speaker 6: Actually go in, so you wouldn't have to touch the flag.
- 1:41:34Speaker 12: Run.
- 1:41:34Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 1:41:35Speaker 3: Of all the things that you would have thought would
- 1:41:37Speaker 3: have stayed open, Yeah, interesting, some courses did all right.
- 1:41:40Speaker 3: Coming down next here on the radio program, the old
- 1:41:43Speaker 3: Judge stops by, we'll get his thoughts about a thing
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