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Carolina Cryptids and Appalachian Granny Witches with NCI's Rob Effler · The Cryptid Huntress

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  Speaker 1: Well, good afternoon, good morning, and good evening everybody. It's
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  Speaker 1: the Crew Dead Huntress. Welcome into our Monday edition of
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  Speaker 1: The Crew to Hunter's Channel over here, where we have
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  Speaker 1: another fantastic show for you guys today. I have my
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  Speaker 1: good buddy, mister Rob Flor from North Carolina investigates here,
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  Speaker 1: one of my fellow research friends, and we get to
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  Speaker 1: hang out pretty often doing conferences and events and things
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  Speaker 1: like that, and he's always a hoop to hang out
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  Speaker 1: with y'all. And Rob has been on the show before.
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  Speaker 1: And we're going to get into some Appalachian folklore today,
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  Speaker 1: some cryptids, some granny witches, and some granny magic, and
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  Speaker 1: we're going to get into a host of other things
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  Speaker 1: as well as we're going to take a look into
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  Speaker 1: Area fifty one burning as well as some Skinny Bob
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  Speaker 1: new video footage that just came out and we're going
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  Speaker 1: to examine that at the end of the show today.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to find out if that's real or if
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  Speaker 1: that's AI, because you never know these days. Great, but
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  Speaker 1: there is some footage that is making the round right
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  Speaker 1: now of one of the more famous real videos of
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  Speaker 1: an alien out there. Okay, so I hope you guys
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  Speaker 1: enjoyed our Saturday night show. My goodness, we had Mike
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  Speaker 1: Smith here. If you guys miss that show, please go
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  Speaker 1: back and give that a watch. Actually, it pretty much
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  Speaker 1: inspired the topic for today with the Granny witches, because
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  Speaker 1: Mike and I got into a conversation about our generational
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  Speaker 1: influence on our cryptid and paranormal encounters and things like that,
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  Speaker 1: and he told us about his either great grandmother or
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  Speaker 1: great ant I can't remember, but who basically would heal
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  Speaker 1: people by reciting Bible verses and things like that. And
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  Speaker 1: so we're going to get into the meat potatoes what
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  Speaker 1: and so thank you guys so much for being here.
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  Speaker 1: So today we have Robert Effler of North Carolina Investigates.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to be discussing appal Appalachi and Granny Witches
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  Speaker 1: and some of Grandpa's old hat tells. He does have
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  Speaker 1: a show over on NCI on Tuesdays and Thursdays, and
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  Speaker 1: we'll get into that today, and of course we're looking
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  Speaker 1: into the newly released Skinny Bob alien footage. Rob Effler
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  Speaker 1: is from western North Carolina. In twenty twenty three, he
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  Speaker 1: started North Carolina Investigates with co founder George Lunsford. Prior
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  Speaker 1: to that, in two thousand and seven, he was a
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  Speaker 1: founder of Go Dark par Normal Investigations. In twenty twelve,
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  Speaker 1: he started to receive reports of Sasquatch sightings in his
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  Speaker 1: area of North Carolina, and that came as quite a
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  Speaker 1: surprise to him because up until then he thought Sasquatch
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  Speaker 1: were only in the Pacific Northwest. Little did he know
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  Speaker 1: it wouldn't be long that he'd know how wrong he
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  Speaker 1: was about that. And he's had several bigfoot sightings and
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  Speaker 1: he's had some run in probably with some dog men
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  Speaker 1: and all that up in western North Carolina. Rob is
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  Speaker 1: the co host of North Carolina Investigates podcasts on YouTube
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  Speaker 1: along with his research teammates, and he also produces and
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  Speaker 1: co host Grandpa's Old Haint Tills on the NCI YouTube
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  Speaker 1: channel and you guys can find them also on Facebook
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  Speaker 1: as well. Please help me. Welcome to the show, mister
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  Speaker 1: Rob Efflor.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, wrong, Hey, how you doing?
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  Speaker 1: Hey, thank you for being here.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm honored to be here.
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  Speaker 1: Well, thank you, I'm honored to have you here. Well, hey,
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  Speaker 1: we've we've had some wild and crazy stuff going on
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  Speaker 1: in the world lately. And uh, and I haven't I
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  Speaker 1: haven't seen you in a while. It's been a minute,
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  Speaker 1: a couple of months or more. And I mean you
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  Speaker 1: guys often have you been Well, we're just hanging like
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  Speaker 1: a hirel a biscuit who grows. Oh my gosh, have
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  Speaker 1: you guys been having a lot of of interesting any
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  Speaker 1: any new cryptied reports up there in western North Carolina.
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  Speaker 2: Well, actually, the UH for some othersion or the big
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  Speaker 2: activity has been picking up, and the dog man activity
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  Speaker 2: has been picking up, but as far as been able
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  Speaker 2: to catch the UH on camera as of we've been
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  Speaker 2: having a little bit of pript really well, I think
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  Speaker 2: they're getting smart to those game cameras.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we we had. I had my buddy David
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  Speaker 1: Parduh y'all met David. He's up in North Carolina near Yuwari,
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  Speaker 1: and had some cameras put out. We've got some interesting
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  Speaker 1: pictures of some interesting creatures. It's not been made public yet,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm gonna see a lot of Bigfoot activities going
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  Speaker 1: on up there in North Carolina where they are and UH,
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  Speaker 1: and there's it's not like full out, a full face,
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  Speaker 1: a full body of Bigfoot, but there's you know, they're
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  Speaker 1: hiding in the bushes and stuff. You can see them
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  Speaker 1: with the eye shine and stuff, so it's pretty pretty neat.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, they are privy to those those game cameras.
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  Speaker 2: Sure. I don't know if he's having the same problem
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  Speaker 2: in his area or not. It may be due to
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  Speaker 2: lack of natural food and woods because I've not been
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  Speaker 2: seeing any The white oaks is usually if they're real
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  Speaker 2: heavy with lote oat cacres. That's like candy the deer
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  Speaker 2: and big fiddle fallllles of deers like a deer and follow.
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  Speaker 2: But the lot oad cacres when when they hit in
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  Speaker 2: big areas, if it's like a food, that's why I'd
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  Speaker 2: say that's probably reason why the activity is happy though,
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  Speaker 2: because they're hungry and they're and they're looking for something.
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  Speaker 1: They're probably hot, looking for some looking for food and water. Man,
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  Speaker 1: it's been so hot. We've we've been a scorcher of
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  Speaker 1: a summer down here in Georgia. And uh and I
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  Speaker 1: even got I didn't talk about this publicly, but I
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  Speaker 1: got real, I got real sick. On Friday, I actually
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  Speaker 1: went well, I went, I got overheated, but I also
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  Speaker 1: had a weird encounter and I guess you know what.
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna bring this up, but we'll go ahead
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  Speaker 1: and talk about it, okay, because I was out. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not going to say exactly where I was because I
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  Speaker 1: was hanking with my dog. And it's the price that
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  Speaker 1: I go too often. And it's a park, okay, And
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  Speaker 1: I take about a two and a half mile hike
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  Speaker 1: two to three miles, depending upon how far ago. And
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  Speaker 1: and my dog and I were hiking. My dog was
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  Speaker 1: acting erratic, okay, and it was weird because he doesn't
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  Speaker 1: normally act crazy when we're hiking. And and I have
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  Speaker 1: I keep it on a leash, and uh. And we
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  Speaker 1: got about ten minutes, ten minutes into this hike that
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  Speaker 1: we do, and it was so hot. I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: didn't think it was gonna be that hot.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: I had one bottle of water to share between me
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  Speaker 1: and my dog for the whole take, the whole time
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  Speaker 1: we were out there, and it was fine. We made it.
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  Speaker 1: But but we got about ten minutes in this height
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  Speaker 1: rob and uh, and I saw some movement up the
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  Speaker 1: kind of not on the trail where we were, but
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  Speaker 1: like over on it. I saw mountains and hills and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Saw some movement, and I thought, man, there I saw
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  Speaker 1: three deer, okay, And I thought, man, that's cool. You
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  Speaker 1: know they're down there trying to drink some of that
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  Speaker 1: drainage from you know, where it rand earlier. And so
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  Speaker 1: I'm I got my eye on them, and I'm figuring
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  Speaker 1: that's why my dogs acting erratic right, because he smells
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  Speaker 1: those deer. Well, I look up, and the deer notice us,
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  Speaker 1: and they turn around they start to go up the hill.
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  Speaker 1: Well I noticed at that point, as they're walking, they're
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  Speaker 1: actually not deer. They're dogs, giant dogs the size of deer. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: And I thought, man, that was weird. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: those things are And they sat there, they turned around,
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  Speaker 1: they looked at us, and they looked their butts were
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  Speaker 1: still deer, but their faces were dogs. It was the
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  Speaker 1: weirdest thing I've ever seen. And uh and I and
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  Speaker 1: I was sitting there contemplating, like, well, maybe I should
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  Speaker 1: just turn around and go back to my truck because
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  Speaker 1: these are huge dogs and I don't know, they're not
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  Speaker 1: on leashes. They're wild and uh and and for a
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  Speaker 1: split second, I was like, maybe we should go back
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  Speaker 1: and uh And they went to the left and we
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  Speaker 1: went We just went ahead and went to the right.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, man, I came all the way out here.
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  Speaker 1: I'm I'm hiking, you know. And uh And so we
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  Speaker 1: ended up going but rob I ended up getting real
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  Speaker 1: real sick that night, where I thought I was gonna die.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it was I was so sick and it
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  Speaker 1: took about an hour or so after I got home, right,
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  Speaker 1: But but I think it was the dehydration potentially. But here,
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  Speaker 1: here's here's why I'm telling you this story, Okay, because
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  Speaker 1: I had taken her report. I'm gonna be going to
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  Speaker 1: investigating pretty soon. And it's a woman who saw a
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  Speaker 1: deer run out front of the of her and her
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  Speaker 1: car on the road in the same area where I
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  Speaker 1: was close to it. And then she looked at it
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  Speaker 1: and it was it. It turned into a dog and
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  Speaker 1: then it turned into a person. And what are the
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  Speaker 1: odds of me seeing the same kind of thing?
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  Speaker 2: Though?
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  Speaker 1: That's just it just was weird.
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  Speaker 2: It really made my brain hurt. Okay, Yeah, I'm broke
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  Speaker 2: in a rollodx of cryptians in my head right now,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm like, you, I don't know what that is either.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I want to say they were just dogs, and
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  Speaker 1: I was just you know, I wasn't hallucinating, and it
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  Speaker 1: wasn't that hot at first. You know, when I was
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  Speaker 1: out there, I had my wits about me. But I
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  Speaker 1: saw what I saw, and I thought, man, there's no
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  Speaker 1: way I just took a report about this and then
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  Speaker 1: I'm seeing this, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: So, uh, it's ground.
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  Speaker 1: It is strange. It is well, even even having dogs
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  Speaker 1: out there is strange because there's not you know, it's
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  Speaker 1: not a place where there's you know, housing and things
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  Speaker 1: like that around there. And they would have been like
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  Speaker 1: a farm dog, like what are those of big white
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  Speaker 1: herding dogs? I forgot what you call great Pyrenees? They
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  Speaker 1: were like a great They could have been like a
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  Speaker 1: great Pyrenees, like three giant ones. But they were the
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  Speaker 1: color of deer. Okay, they weren't. They weren't totally white. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: but of course a lot of most Great Pyrenees get
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  Speaker 1: dirty because they're outside all the time, you know.
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  Speaker 2: But anyway, but that happened. Who knows caangles?
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  Speaker 1: What are the caangle?
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  Speaker 2: They are more aggressive livestock guardian dog than the great parodies.
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  Speaker 1: Oh man. Well, nonetheless, it didn't feel safeer a split second.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, well, I just had to keep my
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  Speaker 1: I had to keep my head on a swivel, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean when I was out there. So well,
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  Speaker 1: something to something to add to the list of weird
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  Speaker 1: things that happened out there. And uh yeah, and the
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  Speaker 1: Appalachians are kind of known for that kind of and
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  Speaker 1: they are and Rob I had you know, I mentioned
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  Speaker 1: I had Mike Smith here on Saturday night out of Kentucky,
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  Speaker 1: and hen I got into like the generational kind of
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  Speaker 1: like passed down experiences of of our our families and
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  Speaker 1: like maybe we're trying I'm trying to pinpoint sometimes, like
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  Speaker 1: why do some of us get all this cryptid activity?
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  Speaker 1: Why are we all that frequency of having these encounters
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  Speaker 1: and stuff? And he brought up his either I think
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  Speaker 1: it was one of his great great great grandmothers, or
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  Speaker 1: maybe it was a great ant. I think it was
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  Speaker 1: a great grandmother. Uh, healing people with Bible verses instead
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  Speaker 1: and h and lay in hands and things like that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, And that's something that i've it run. I
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  Speaker 1: mean I've heard about it for years generation. My mother's
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  Speaker 1: friends still do that to this day. Uh is that
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  Speaker 1: is that something that you grew up with and you've
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  Speaker 1: heard of it? Like they call him Granny Witches.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, my granny was a three quarter Cherokee and uh,
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  Speaker 2: she was a medicine woman. There was a growing up.
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  Speaker 2: I think I was probably maybe twelve year old somewhere
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  Speaker 2: around and there the little old kid that lives right
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  Speaker 2: ball Grandma. He drunk lample. And for those who don't
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  Speaker 2: know what lampole is, it's basically chersene in those old
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  Speaker 2: glass lanterns that's got the glass flu in it. It's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's what you know. It's what they used for fuel
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  Speaker 2: for those lanterns. Kerosene with a lot of people called
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  Speaker 2: him lampole. Well, that little old kid had I don't
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  Speaker 2: know how much he had ingested, but he had ingested
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  Speaker 2: enough that the local doctor basically told that told that
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  Speaker 2: little boy's mama said she pick a fork in him.
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  Speaker 2: He's done. He'll be dead by daylight.
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  Speaker 3: Oh god.
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  Speaker 2: Well, they all freaked out, and uh, I was. I
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  Speaker 2: was at my grandma's at the time. This lady come
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  Speaker 2: up and uh she hollered at my grandma and she said, Tilda,
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  Speaker 2: is there anything in the world that you can do
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  Speaker 2: to help his young She said, well, child, what world did?
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  Speaker 2: What did he do? He drunk lampol? She said, I'll
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  Speaker 2: be right back. She went and got her a burlap sack.
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  Speaker 2: She started out the kitchen door and I said, well, Granny,
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  Speaker 2: I'll go with you. She turned around and she said, no,
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  Speaker 2: you sat right here, don't you move. Okay, yes, ma'am. Well,
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  Speaker 2: Grandpa went up on the ridge in behind the house,
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  Speaker 2: and she was gone for probably three hours. She came back,
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  Speaker 2: and I kidd you not. She had that bottom of
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  Speaker 2: that sack was probably four or five inches deep of
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  Speaker 2: herbs that she had dug out of the ground and
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  Speaker 2: got probably from the tree or whatever. And she went
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  Speaker 2: in the kitchen. She bowled it up and made a tea. Well,
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  Speaker 2: let she take it down here, and she said, make
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  Speaker 2: this young and drink it. She said, if it don't
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  Speaker 2: carry him, he'll at least prolong his life for a
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  Speaker 2: little bit till you can get him to another doctor.
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  Speaker 2: Long behold, and I one o'clock the next morning, that
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  Speaker 2: young and was out in the yard cutting cartwheels.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god. Wow, Like there wasn't nothing wrong with him,
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god.
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  Speaker 2: And that's all she did. She wouldn't let me see
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  Speaker 2: what she had, and she wouldn't let me see how
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  Speaker 2: she prepared it or anything. But oh, she made a
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  Speaker 2: tea and Adam have that young and drinking. And I
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  Speaker 2: don't remember the young man's name or anything, but he survived.
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  Speaker 2: But he survived.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, that's amazing. And you know, I'm sure there's all
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  Speaker 1: sorts of stories about that. I mean, they didn't have
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  Speaker 1: you know, emergency rooms and things like that that were accessible,
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  Speaker 1: especially to people out in the mountains back in the day.
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  Speaker 1: Still don't for some people.
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  Speaker 2: Back in the day, it was twenty eight miles or
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  Speaker 2: better to the closest hospital from where I live right now.
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  Speaker 1: Oh man.
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  Speaker 2: And I was back during the uh horse and wagon
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  Speaker 2: and uh riding a mule or a horse to town days.
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  Speaker 2: They didn't have cars. All of the people that had
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  Speaker 2: cars was one that they considered a little bit of
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  Speaker 2: house looting because they had a little bit of money
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  Speaker 2: everybody else, you know. I mean, that's just way things
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  Speaker 2: went way back when.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, that kind of reminds me of a
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  Speaker 1: story of my uncle, my youngest. My mom has four brothers,
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  Speaker 1: and they lived up in the mountains up in like
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  Speaker 1: Cloudland area, like North Georgia summer. I mean, they lived
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  Speaker 1: way up up in the mountains of North Georgia and
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  Speaker 1: uh and they were they lived in this cabin. I
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  Speaker 1: think this is where it was. It was a haunted
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  Speaker 1: cabin if I could remember correctly, of course. And uh
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  Speaker 1: and so my my mom's youngest brother, Uh, he drank
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  Speaker 1: he'd turned up some kerosene and drink it. Mm hmm
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  Speaker 1: and uh and and I remember them telling us about
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  Speaker 1: how they had to run My grandmother ran with him
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  Speaker 1: down to go to a doctor's plate. I mean, they
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  Speaker 1: didn't have like a hospitals and things like that that
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  Speaker 1: were accessible to where they were. But I remember hearing
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  Speaker 1: about how they had to run, like carry him in
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  Speaker 1: their arms and run him down to the doctor's house
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  Speaker 1: to try to get his stomach pump, get him to
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if he was gonna throw it up.
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember what the whole story was. But he survived, okay,
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  Speaker 1: but it was by the grace of God he survived.
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  Speaker 1: I can't imagine why what possess a child that drink
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  Speaker 1: kerosene or lad oil. I tell you what.
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  Speaker 2: Kids And back in the day, I mean, it's like
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  Speaker 2: touching a hot stove. You won't do that for a one
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  Speaker 2: time you go.
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  Speaker 1: To the Mexican restaurant, they bring out the hot hot
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  Speaker 1: plates the faidas everybody's done it, am I right, y'all.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody wants to touch the hot plate, okay, like, don't
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  Speaker 1: don't touch this, it's hot. And you're like the first
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  Speaker 1: thing you do is you gotta touch it. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I get it. Listen, I got a twelve year old
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  Speaker 1: and h and I have had my share of incidents
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: where I've had to rush into the hospital and stuff,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: you know, over jumping off trampolines on his head and
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. So it is what it is.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: But but thank goodness for the granny witches. And they
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: call it granny magic, and it's really just utilize it.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: I'm going to say, it's like utilizing herbs, plant medicine
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: of nature around you and having that passed down. Now,
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: granny magic is a type of Christianity basically in the
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Apple Let's go to the Appalachians, Okay, because there's different
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: regions of like granny magic. That's what they call it. Now.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: It's a collection of Christian Christianity based witchcraft. And I
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: know some people get we're gonna get upset and putting
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: Christianity and witchcraft together, right, But but it goes back
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: to folk traditions of a collection of healers and herbalists
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: and even ministers, okay, and people within the church and
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: that specifically believed that the Book of Psalms in the
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: Bible was actually a book of spells. Okay, and now
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: this is there's some things in the Apple actions we
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: don't talk about, right, secrets and things like that, and
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: I would think that this would be kind of one
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: of them, especially for women and people who practice this, okay,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: because they can be kind of, you know, pointed out
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: and said, asked the witch. You know, for generations centuries,
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: witches have been burned at the stake.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: And so it's rough putting Christianity and witchcraft in the
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: same sentence together, I guess for some people. But there
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: was a there was a man that wrote a book
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: in the eighteen twenties. His name was John George Human
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: I think gets say Say's name, and he wrote a
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: book called Long Gloss Friends where he actually pulled out
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: a bunch of the psalms and and he pulled him
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: out for easy reference, for reference for like the Granny
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: witch stuff okay, Granny which stuff, And and it was
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: predominantly a I think it was a Scottish Irish or
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: scott Irish and German type of a thing. People was
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: like descendants of them that were using this, and it
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: really was just a healing and healers. Uh So in
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: the South it was kind of isolated to the Appalachian
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Mountains and in the communities where it was more like
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: a word of mouthing, like a traditional passed down type
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: of a medicine, I guess you could call it. Rob
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: were passed down. They weren't like reading these books and stuff.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: They were just passed down and taking the word in
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: psalms and using it for quote unquote magic, right the
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: heal people. Now, basically, yeah, the power and prayer is
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: pretty pretty huge, isn't it, Rob, he need is.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: And a lot of people that they'll sort of get
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: that little misconstrued because the Lord put everything on this
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: planet for a reason. All the trees, all the herbs,
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: and this, that and the other was here for us
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: to use. And those that don't know you know how
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: to use them and what they're for. More or level.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: You're a highly religious hen and I know I'm gonna
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: take it take a hit for this, which that's fine.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: I've had a religious bulls on my backs. It's two
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: thousand and seven and the only thing I can say is, honey,
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: let those are us fly because I'm going to tell
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: you the gospel, whether you want to hear it or not.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: The thing that it is. Most of your highly religious
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: people are claimed to be religious people. They're basically scared
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: to death that which they don't understand. Absolutely, yes, And
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: the Bible plainly states two things about three hundred and
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: sixty five times, be ye not afraid, and know thy enemy.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: And if you and if you're not, you know, educated
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: on something other and trying to learn it, and you're
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: not using it for evil purposes? What's the harm in,
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: you know, using what God gave you. God gave you
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: a brain, expect you to use it. I'm sure there's
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: a lot of times he's sitting there stretching his head, going,
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: I gave these people knowledge and these nuts is setting
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: there twiddling their thumbs not doing a darned thing in
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: the world with it. What crap you?
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: I mean exactly? Was Well, there are scriptures in the
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Bible that talk about, you know, God giving us our
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: spiritual gifts and how we should be using them and
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: it's okay to use them, okay. And that is one thing,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: rob that I do get. There are people that will
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: come at me and claim that I'm a witch and
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: stuff because I do the remote viewing, so I'm trained
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: in that, and I use I talk about using my
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: psychic abilities publicly and because that's something that God gave me.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: He gave me the gift of sight, you know what
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: I mean. And so so I'm not scared to talk
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: about it. I take arros too for that. Okay, But okay,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: so there's let's actually let me just read a Bible
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: verse right here, how about that? Okay, this is just
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: for entertainment purposes only, y'all. Okay, but but also not okay.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: So in one Corinthians twelve focuses on spiritual gifts and
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: the unity of the church, described one body with many parts,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: emphasizes that diverse gifts such as wisdom, healing, and tongues
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: are empowered by the same spirit for the common good,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: urging unity, mutual care, and love. Hold on, I got
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: I've got one right here. I listen. I took notes
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: last night when I was laying in bed. I was like,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: wait a second, uh so? Uh So God moves through
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: people with the power to heal through prayer as well,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: of course, and spiritual gifts versus one through living. There
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: are diversities of gifts such as wisdom, knowledge, faith, here,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: props and tongues that are given to each person for
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: the common good, okay, and and so y'all just reference
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: a couple of those like in Corinthians if you want
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: to look into spiritual gifts and what God says about that.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: And uh, speaking of tongues, I just wanted to make
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: this note. My great grandmother used to scare the living,
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: but Jesus out of my mom and her brothers. She
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: took them in church. I think they were I want
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: to say it was like Pentecostal church up in the
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: North Georgia Mountains, probably Rome or somewhere where we have
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: on them where will sightings today? Okay, but but they're
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: up in in there. And my mom said that they
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: would get so scared. She her eyes would roll back
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: in her head and she starts speaking in tongues and
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: they would hide under the church peeth because they got
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: so scared. They didn't know what was going on.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: But I feel bad. I had the same thing happened
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: to me several years ago. Went to a uh went
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: to a hold of this church and there was three
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: of them off to the right where I'm always see
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: I was. I was raised Baptists growing up, but being
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: around Jerry Millwood and Tim Bill's who were both in
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: a hostel, and Jerry's Jerry's a preacher as well. I
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: guess you could say, now I'm sort of a Baptist hostel.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: I went to this, I went to this holding this
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: church and over to the right. Use the thing in
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: a Baptist church, off to the right of the pulpit,
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: if you're sitting in the congregation, that's where the choir
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: usually sits, right next piena there. Well, now this was
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: an extension of the congregation, which was unbeknownst to be
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: at the time well spared of the Lord to hit
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: it as about three of them went to speaking in tongues,
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: and I sitting there going, well, I'm fixing to have
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: a windy bag. Well moment, I don't know where the
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: back doors at, but I'm fixing to make them one.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: It did. It's scared the putting out of them either.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: For a few minutes. Then while I figured out what
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: was going on, I was like, well, pretty.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: Cool, Oh my gosh. I mean I would have been
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: I would have been a little a little scared myself
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: as a child, especially watching my great grandmother, you know,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: start speaking in tongs and not understanding what that is.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: But you know, I've actually started making some connections to
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: like modern day because you know, there are churches where
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: people still do that, you know, the only ghost kitchen
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: and you start dancing and speaking and tongues and all that.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: And uh. And to a person that's an outsider looking in,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: it looks like they're getting possessed by something. Okay, but
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: you know, I I work with I do conferences and
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: stuff like you and uh. And I hang out with
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: the spiritual community and the New Age, you know, star
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: seeds and all that. And there's something called light language
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: that people use the young the younger generations, and uh,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: modern day, I'm gonna say, okay, modern day even though
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: people are still doing the other you know, speaking in tongues,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: but they do like light language and reiki, you know,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: laying hands on people, not actually touching people, but using
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: their hands, you know, to get the energy from the
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: ethers and wherever it's coming down from the divine and
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: putting their hands on people and healing them.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: And uh, did you Yeah, I was working in security
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: several Oh gosh, I guess this was probably twenty years
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: ago somewhere around in there. Well, I was having kidneysed
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: on attack. I went into the local subway to get
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: me something to eat for supper, and unbeknownst to me
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: at the time, the lady that worked in there. I've
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: talked to her several different times. We've become friends, and
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: she basically knew what kind of sandwich I wanted when
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: I came through the door. Well, when I came through
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: the door, she seen me. She went instantly fixing, fixing
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: my subway sandwich. Well, at the time, I didn't know
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: that she was a part Sioux, part Blackfoot medicine woman.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: And she looked at me and she said, you're in pain.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: I said, yes, ma'am. I said, I am about seventeen
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: seconds from hit the floor. I said, I am dying.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: She said, let me guess you got a kid to stop.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: I said, how did you know? And I haven't said
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: nothing to her. I haven't seen her in four days.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: She said, do you want me to get rid of
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: that well? And I said, what are you doing? She said,
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: We'll come here and I'll show you. Well. She came
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: around the counter, got over in front of the drink machine.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: She said, turn around and back up to me. Do
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: I say stop? Well? I backed up. She said, okay, stop.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: Her hand was about four inches from my back. And
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: I had a buddy of mine with me, and I said,
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: you watch and see what she's doing. He said, okay,
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: he said, I'll watch because you know, being security all stree,
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: you gotta you gotta be careful when you turn you
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: back on somebody because you never know want something other stupid.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: Somebody's gonna do it just exactly like she'd just stuck
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: a red hot needle into my kidney. To him, I said,
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: what are you doing? I said, you're killing me. He said,
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: I'm not touching you. My baddy said he's not. She's
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: not touching you, he said. He said, I'm standing right
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: here watching. She pulled the pain out of my back
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: and she stopped that kidney strong from her and she
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: never laid a hand on me. But here was here
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: was a funny thing. After everything is all over, we've
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: said don she said, come back and see me in
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: two days. I said, okay, So I went back up
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: her two days later. I thought, what does this lady want?
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: And she looked me and she said, your granny is
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: three quarter Cherokee, right. I said, how did you know?
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: Because I I haven't said nothing to her. She said,
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna teach you something other and this will become
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: useful later on in life. And she taught me how
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: to do that.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: H she you got healing from that?
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: Well, my granny always told me when I was growing up,
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: because I always I always hung out with my grandma.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: As old saying goes here in the South, I thought
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: sun rose and said on my grandma. Grandma couldn't do
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: no wrong. It didn't make no difference, you know, what
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: she said or what she done. I know there's a
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: lot of people like that from me. I'm not to
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: lose connection of laptops of dying.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: Oh, that happens to me all the time. Rob, Oh
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: my gosh.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Well right, while Rob's plugging in his device, y'all, it's
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: it's there's it's miracles. I'm gonna say, it's like a miracle, right.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: But but for people. We got people in the chat
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: today that are and William said he if I was
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: a witch, he'd steal my broom. So I'm not a witch.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: That's funny.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: I'm not a witch. Are you a good witch or
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: a bad which you know that's from the Wizard of
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: Oz Okay, but but you know this is this is
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: people look at it as miracles.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: I remember when you know, I know when people have
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: been in car accidents. You know, my brother passed away
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: in a car accident. I remember in his case, he
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: did pass away, right, But I know that my mom's friends,
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: you know, everybody got they have like a phone tree
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: with with the church and stuff, and her friend Norma
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: Jean got on the phone, and I know that they
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: started doing you know, prayers. Okay, the what do you
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: call it? Prayer trees and group prayers and things like
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: that to where they get on they I mean, they're
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: they're serious about this. When something when somebody in the
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: community gets hurt, injured, or they're sick. Uh, the power
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: of prayer can heal people big time. And that's that's similar.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: I'm not calling him witches. Okay, nobody witches, dear, but
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying that's it's it's something that's still done
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: our community today, Okay, getting getting them. One person gets
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: the phone call and it goes out to hundreds of
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: people basically all over the world, definitely in the community,
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: to pray for the person who needs it the worst
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: so or the most.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, yeah, I apologize for my fair man. God,
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: I didn't realize that I didn't plug my power hoord
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: to my computer, and I've been playing with it a
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: little bit and didn't realize that I needed to plug
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: it back up. I apologize for that.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: Don't apologize. That happens to me almost every single show, Rob,
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: I do it all the time. I just checked mine too.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: But uh, well, you so you got healed, you had
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: a you had kidney. You say kidney stones or kidney.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: Some of them are only kidney.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was, it was a kidney.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: Now the doctor and get it checked.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: After that, I did what they say. They couldn't find
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: it now how it works, don't ask me. The only
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: thing I can say is this is you just got
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: to have faith in the good Lord above when you're
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: doing it.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: That's right, That's right. And you actually felt the heat
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: of it as well. And uh and that's I mean
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: that that was just the the intention and the power
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: of Maybe it was the energy the incantations. I mean,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: you know, for for many for many years and many generations,
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: I've always heard about the what they call it where
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: they like pray off skin tags and warts and things
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: like that. I know it's kind of gross. Okay, But
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: there's a way that you know, old Grandma's and stuff,
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: they could pray away warts and you want to call
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: it getting the fire out and things like that.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: Taking Actually, there was a gentleman that lived below me
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: when I was a kid. I'm not going I'm not
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: going to disclose his name. He's passed on now, but
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: he would take a verse out of the babble and
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: if you got burnt on your thumb or on your
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: finger or hand or you know wherever, he would say
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: that verse and ball on it.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: And m hm, well, I need to I need to
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: grab this man's book, okay, because I would like to
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: figure out which exactly which verses these are, and I
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: want to start doing this myself. I tell you what,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: I would think, it's an inherent an inherent kind of
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: a trait especialty, you know what I mean. You've got
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: to have the power of healing and to really believe it, okay.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: And and I would assume that it probably has something
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: to do with like it being generational, like Mike and
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: I were talking about it on Saturday night. You know,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: I always think that, like maybe the reason I have
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: so many encounters with the strangeness out boot and stuff,
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: and the paranormal is because it's passed down through generations.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Grandma used to see visions all the time. The
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: night before my grandpa passed away, she woke me up screaming,
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: and I've come up out of the bed and I said, Granny,
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: what's mattered? She said, we're going to get a phone
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: call by eight o'clock in the morning. I said, well,
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: what's mattered? He said, Uh, your Grandpa's gone. I said,
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: how do you know? Because the phone hadn't run. She
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: said there was a white horse in the backyard. And
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: she said, there's no horses around here. She said, it
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: is the prettiest white horse.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: She said.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: Overlaid my eyes on And at eight o'clock next morning,
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: Daddy called Grandma from the hospital and told him that
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: Papa was gone.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, oh wow. She had the gift of site,
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: Yes that yeah.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, even even with the gift of sight
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: and the gift of prophecy things like that, and using
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: it in a biblical sense, okay, and using Psalms okay,
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: and it's specifically Psalms okay, the Book of Psalms. If
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: people are wondering. Uh, A lot of Granny, which is
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: still would warn against using oigi boards and things like that,
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: and uh, I don't. I do not recommend. I do
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: not like wigi boards at all. Okay, I do not.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: I don't use them. I would not have one in
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: my house. I don't even like using ghost boxes and stuff.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: But I don't judge. Listen, I don't judge anybody to
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: use those things. But I don't. I don't like them.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: I gave mine away to somebody.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: Uh. I was always told between the lady that was
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: the south and Blackfoot medicine woman from her and other
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: people that was actual witches because I studied waking and
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: pagan religion as well, you know, several other religions when
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: I first started doing paranormal investigations, and they everyone told
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: me the same thing. Now, I mean, you know, if
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: you want to play with them, I turn a general
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: audience more prior to you. I don't recommend it, but
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: if that's what you want to do, you make the
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: constant speed. The only thing I could tell you, but
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: they everyone told me said, nobody on this planet. I
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: don't care. If you've been studying pagan and wicking religion
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: and everything else for forty years. Nobody on this planet
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: has enough power to control what comes through Luciport.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: I can't disagree with that because you're opening up a door. Hey,
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: you're opening up a door. But you know there's there's
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: other people too that say, well, any kind of divination
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: at all is witchcraft. And you know it's very to me,
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: that's very closed minded. But that's my opinion, okay, because
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: like I said, I mean, it's God give us these
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: spiritual gifts and uh.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: He goes right along with the with the verse in
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: the Bible. Know that enemy, If you don't know what
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: you're dealing with, how do you know how to come
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: back that? Yeah, that's like taking that's like taking a
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: MMA a fighter. He's trained for fifteen years as an
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: MMA fighter, but he's never been in the ring. And
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: the only thing that he's been practicing with is one
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: of those MMA dummies, you know, like they have in
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: the in the gym. If he's been in the ring
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: and he goes into the MMA ring, what the first
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: thing going to happen? If he don't know his all on.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: It, He's not going to know how to bomb and
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: weave correctly. Listen, you got it. You got to learn
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: how to take a punch real good. Ask me how.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the same way. You know, when when you're
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: dealing with that, you got to know what you're dealing
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: with because if you don't. At least while I said
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: I had a religious bulls on my back, since two
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: thousand and seven, everybody said, well, the mindset and I'm
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: just gonna, you know, make it short and sweet, the
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: mindset of of of a lot of people that's you know,
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: supposedly religious and all this and got this holier than
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: that addedude to sit out on the front porch, get
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: you a diper snuff and wait for the good Lord
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: to come by with a shopping cart and say, honey,
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: one of my what do you want me to do
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: for you today? It don't work that way, I promise you.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: It don't work that way. And I mean paying forward
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: and book and if I can possibly be.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: I like it. I like you being straightforward in blunt
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: that is. Yeah, it's uh, I don't know. I'm listen,
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: I'm not ashamed to use my spiritual gifts and to
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: talk about it and stuff like that. And uh, but
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: there's people that will shame into trying to not talk
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: about it. And uh and that's okay, it is what
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: it is. But I'm gonna do what I'm gonna do, okay,
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: And uh and Bruce says, there's a power. Uh, there's
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: a prayer to stop bleeding. Now there is. I've heard that,
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: and absolutely and uh there's also these you know, we're
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: talking about natural remedies as well, but in addition to
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: the natural remedies, we're also talking about the power of
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say the frequency of prayer as well, and
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: just a power behind that. And uh, mickey, I could, man,
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: I could have used this so many every year I
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: get poison ivy for poison oak And uh, so is
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: I know a man who can talk the fire out
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: and read you a poison ivy almost overnight. My only
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: cure is going to get a shot at the steroids
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: at the hospital.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, usually so, yeah, I take my life at
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: least three times a year. Thank god. This year she listened.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: She says, wanted to do some weeding in the area.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: And I've looked at her and I said, don't do that.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: She said, well, I said, I do not like sleeping
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: in the dog house for the next four days after
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: you get that shot, she said. She said, you want it.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: I said, yeah, I said, I'm allergic to poison ivy myself.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: I said, that is why I am a firm religious
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: believer in roundup. Oh yeah, spray that mask, let it go.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, Well, I'm always trying through the woods and stuff,
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: and so it just kind of happens. It's usually when
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: I'm doing yard work. That's the only time I get
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: I can go all through the woods looking for ends
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: and all that, and then it's I go home and
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: I do yard work and then I get it. So
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: that's how that works. See, Duke said, my grandpa took
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: seven year old me to an old spooky lady in Cedartown, Georgia,
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: and she conjured a ward off my finger, old spooky later, yeah,
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: conjured a ward off my finger.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: Man, if I'm not mistaken, I think one of those
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: remedies for that involves a copper penny. And I can't
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: I can't remember how that goes.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well, uh, let's see. G Cool says, these
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: granny witches are a pillar of the pillars of the community.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: And uh, and I got to say, you know, one
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: of my my favorite historical people out of West Georgia.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: I did. I used to do all sorts of any
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: time might get a chance. I would talk about my
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: Haley Lancaster and uh and this woman is a people
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: call her a witch. She lived down in Hurd County.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: She was down in Herd County. Her grave's down there
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: been to her grave. She was a fortune teller, very
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: well known. She was actually featured. Jill Carter Cash played
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: her in a movie called Murder in Kawita County. Her
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: and Johnny Cash were both in that movie and she played. Yeah,
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: it's a great movie. She actually don't find the I
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: think she was. People would come to her for advice
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: and stuff. She was a pillar of the community though,
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: and everybody knew that she was a seer and people
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: would travel all from all over the country to go
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: pay a dollar and a dime, uh, to go get
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: their fortune read by her. But but she was a
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: I'm going to say, a philanthropist, you know, a pillar
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: of the of her church. I think it's called Canty
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: Branch Methodist or Baptist Church, I can't remember. But uh,
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: but yeah, she was a she was actually an attorney.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: She was a lawyer for a while and a school teacher,
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: and she was in a band with her family and
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: really really interesting woman. But she was not looked down.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure people did look down on her,
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: some people maybe, but I think it overrode I mean,
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: I think that her being a pillar of the community
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: like she was, I think it kind of overrode all
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: that she got to be kind of Yeah, so she
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: was a witch. I used to Actually I did a
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: little segment for her. I was I did mass media
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: for in my high school, and I remember doing a
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: segment that was going to be a video that would
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: play all over the school. And I knew that kids
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: were going out to her grave to go desecrate her
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: grave on the weekends because they thought she was a witch.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: And if you were to go out to her grave
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: and you guys, would I mean, this is horrible, horrible,
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: urinate on it or like do something bad. I don't
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: know what they were doing. They said that the story
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: went that when you try to leave your car, walk
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: crank and you'll have car problems, you'll get stranded out
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: there and stuff if you do that. So the kids
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: were going out there and doing that stuff, and I
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: was like, it made me mad, so I did. Me
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: and some of my friends had a full show on it,
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: and we gave her full history and hopefully it changed
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: the outlook and stopple from people from doing that, you
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: know what I mean.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: But well, the the thing of it is with you know,
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: oh Mountain Herble remedies and uh, you know, granny witches
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: and stuff like that. If it wasn't for them, Big
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: Farmer wouldn't have a job today.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. Yeah, they take everything and they've corrupted it.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: They've put in, you know, from natural remedies. This is
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: for entertainment purposes only. Uh, they've taken natural remedies and
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: they have switched it out with something chemical. Yeah, and uh,
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: and then tried to get rid of the natural remedies
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: and then point fingers and say that we're bad people
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: for doing that kind of natural stuff for you.
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: And now the natural remedies is making a big explosive comeback,
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: and everybody's like, okay, what do we do now. So
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: it's a two vage sword. Anyway you swing it, you're
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: gonna get cut on either side.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. Well, well, well if you get cut,
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: go find you a granny witch. Though, okay, because they
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: can help you. They can help heal that if you
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: gotta cut.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: And yeah, there's a something other on natural remedies that
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: everybody has in their house that if you do get cut,
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: whether it be a kitchen knife or a pocket knife
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: or even on a piece of glass, and you do
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: get cut and you're having trouble getting it stopped, get
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: some I think it's called corn starts. Put it in
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: your hand, put it on the moon. It'll make it quit.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: Corn starts. That's good. No, I mean, I remember back
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: when he had a buddy who cut his head at
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: the swimming pool and somebody grab some super glue and
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: shut us. I know that that is natural. Don't do that,
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: but I'll never forget that. Some of the guy's got
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: some super glue and just super glued his gigantic cut shut.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: And I was like, all right, I'm done for the day.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: I'm done for the day. So don't do that. But
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: but yeah, that's it. It's wonderful to know these natural remedies. Actually,
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: when we're out there doing bigfoot stuff, the head of
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: my research team used to take us on nature hikes
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: to show us like Golden Root and show to show us.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: Things that are like you know that can be used
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: as antiseptics, and things that can be used to add
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: you know, anti bacterials and things that can just any
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: anything that can help you save your life one day
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: you might need it. Lost art. It really is a
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: lost art. Well, speaking of lost art too, some of
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: my dad used to do is uh is go. They
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: call it water witching, water witch and or water witchery
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: something like that, and where you take a forked stick
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: and you go and you you go dowsing looking for water. Okay,
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: and some people that's witchcraft. I don't know, but they
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: call it water with him for a reason, I guess,
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: but it's just dowsing.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: My well. Daddy had the ability to do that. It
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: take a claim that was, you know, cut into a
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: why I've seen standator and which up water and when
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: the stink went down it would go down to hard
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: to bring a bark off any hand.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Really, I mean when when people are looking for
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: welles's where to where to dig for a well? That's
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: that's one of the surefire ways. Even people with companies
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: that did for wells used that method. Yeah, there's something
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: to it.
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know what it is, but there's something
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: other took. I've been curious about it for probably fifty years.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: M Well, there's there's societies of water witchers witchery. I
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: think they call it likes water Witchers Society or something
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: like that. But in Georgia, my friend I have a
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: good friend, my buddy Jim, he taught our entire team
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: how to dows how to use dowsing ones and pendulums
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: and things like that. And and he I don't know
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: if he was the head of the Georgia Dowagers, but
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: he's definitely in the Georgia Dowsers and and they go
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: out they I mean I have done some dowsing myself
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: and and I find it. I find it fantastic. I mean,
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: ever since I was a kid, my dad was showing
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: me how to do it, okay, and that's my dad.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: And I don't think he's a witch whatever. It's just
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: the old lay.
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: It's just the misconception and misperception of what people think.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: You know, like I said earlier, stuff that people are
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: you know, afraid of and you know or a educate
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: it all and don't don't understand when they get afraid
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: of it, they'll wavelet this, that and twelfth and you know, yeah,
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: if you're afraid, if you're afraid of something other research
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: it and make sure you understand it before you go
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: cash and judge.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: But all it exactly. H I agree with that, Bruce.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: What's up, Bruce? Bruce Brown says, I use a peach tree,
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: fort limb peach tree and uh yeah, even Daniel says,
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: I've seen my father do the witch in for water
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, I just always called it dowling now
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: talking about people getting you know, it's all about the
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: perspective and maybe even the jargon that we use and stuff.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: But it in all different types of cultures. Uh, there
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: is you know, there are granny whiches, it's called different things.
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: In the African American community, there's something called who Do
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: as well? Right, and uh, and so they're basically doing
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: this same stuff. It's it's it's the same, it's just
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: got a different name. And uh, you know, and I've
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: brought up hodoo and voodoo and all that kind of
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: stuff several times. We're talking about were wolves and transformations
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: and and uh and the dark magic, but it's not
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: all dark magic. I don't think who Do is inherently
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: supposed to be like dark magic other than maybe, but
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not very versed in it.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: But hither I may have, you know, best understood the
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: whole thing. And if I and if I have, I
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: apologize for it. But I think who doos you know? Currently?
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: Uh straddling the line between the I and lot. Yeah,
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: it's ort hit hits the gray area. But you know, again,
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: I could I could be wrong.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's it's gonna be the same as like
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: Granny widges, Okay, same as Grant with the root with
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: like root work and all that kind of stuff. Some
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: people say that it's just mainly a lot of what
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: they're doing and who do is protecting from oppressors and
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: oppressive people and things like that.
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: So I don't know.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: I mean and healing. You know, I never really even
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: made the connection that like healers people. You know, it's
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: not just women. It's not Ginger specific here, but it's
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: traditionally been women being healers and those are those are
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: what who people consider to be witches from back in
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: the day and around the around the Appalachians are the
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: natural healers. But really it's just people using their natural
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: gifts and their God given abilities and uh all that,
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: all the generational information passed down of the healing herbs
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: and things that are that God God provided us on
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: this planet with our plants and our flowers, our animals
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. Okay, So, so I
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: just thought it'd be a really cool idea to talk
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: about the granny witches today, and even you know you've
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: got to you've gotta show that you do on Tuesdays
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: and Thursdays about Grandpa's old haint tails. Have you ever
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: covered granny witches in that on your show with that?
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: I think the Tendler too, we did. I can't remember
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: which episodes they are, to be quite honest, but uh,
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: I mean we're into our fortieth episode right now, which
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: I call chapters on on YouTube, but uh, I think
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: we have and uh it's quite interesting in some other
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: world wealth checking out.
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: Well shoot yeah, well let's let me. I just wanted
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: to pull up a couple of pictures we do a
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: search on on you know, Duck Duck go.
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: These are just some examples of what people would consider
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: if you want to know what a greenny witch looks like.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: It just looks like a regular old grandma out there, y'all. Uh,
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: that that's some old over are some old pictures from
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: the Appalachian Uh, the last of the granny Witches right here.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: And this actually looks a lot like what what Mahley
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: Lancaster looked like. She actually in her older days, the
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: later part of her life, latter part, she walked around
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: with a wearing a gunny sack dress, you know, like
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: the gunny sacks, and and she had a pocket. She
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: always had pockets in the front. She wore an old
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: soldier's hat, a military hat, and she had a glass eye,
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: and she kept her glass eyed a tobacco sack in
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: her front pocket of her apron. And she was just
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: a character.
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: She was an old character, man, and I just love
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: talking about her. But anyways, that's that's your stereotypical granny
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: witch is right there. If y'all wondering, Okay, all right, well,
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: I think I think it's time for me to start
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: studying the Psalms, the Book of Songs, and figuring out
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: how I can I can work some magic with that.
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: I think that'd be great. Well heck yeah, okay, Well,
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: let's let's talk a little bit about what else is
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: going on in the world right now, because one of
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: the first times ever went camping up in North Carolina.
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: I had the pleasure of camping out on top of
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: a mountain near Cherokee, h North Carolina. It was actually
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: not too far from Cashers. I don't know, how are you?
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: Are you anywhere close to Cashers?
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: I see, I think about two hours and fifty away.
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's not too bad, that's not too far. Well,
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: I was up there camping out, and I was with
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: a chief David, who's a medicine man, uh Cherokee elder.
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: He's passed away over the past few years. Uh, but
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: he was a good buddy of mine and uh, and
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: he took us camping on top of this hill, on
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: top of a mountain. It was on some sacred drown
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: up there, and he was he actually called in the
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: sky ships over Cashers while we were up there. Now
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: have you heard of those? Oh yeah, yeah, y'all have
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: done a show on on my bet.
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: We were opposed to and something that happened in the
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: uh and the lady that was supposed to be, you know,
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: doing the presentation and everything. So king ever said car
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: trouble or something of that. She couldn't make it the
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: shelves when we had to switch gears.
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: Well, there's something called sky Ships over Cashers. They've got
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: their own website and everything I got, I could, I
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: could pull it up if you want me, if you
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: want to see it. Uh but but uh so hold,
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: let me let me type it in real quick. It's
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: called sky Ships over Cashiers. Okay, here it is. And
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: uh and so this has been going around for for decades.
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: I'm sure it's been going on for way longer than that. Okay,
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: but but but she if David had a like a
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: a I want to see a wand see a wand
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: it was like a stick, like a hiking stick, a
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: walking stick with a crystal on the end. And uh.
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: And he actually at night before it would get dark,
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: while it was getting dark, he would go out and
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: he would start chanting and doing like an incantation, and
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: he'd put us his rod up in the air, and
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: these spaceships would show up in the air above our heads,
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: at four of them. Every night we were out there.
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: He did this and and there were there were be
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: four of them and they were like blinking lights. It
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: was just it was wild. I never seen any thing
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: like it my entire life, and they stayed over us. Now,
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: did we get abducted and probed? Probably?
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: We probably got probed for all I know. But let's see.
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: Here's here's some pictures there. That's exactly what I saw too. Okay,
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: so these are some of the pictures.
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: The website is if you guys want to go there,
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: sky Shipsovercashers dot com at a Cashers, North Carolina, the
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: new UFO Hotspot. Now, this was almost twenty years ago
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: when I was there. It's been at least fifteen years.
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: I saw somebody in the chat had said that they
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: had just gone a Judicola Rock yesterday, and this is
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: just right down the road from Judicola Rock because I
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: went there as well, which is an anomaly in itself.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: Oh, yes it is. I've been there probably three times.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: And each time you go back, it's basically like going
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 4: to the world's largest big Foot museum in uh in
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: uh Blue Rigs.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: Georgia and are cherry Bog cherry log. Every time you go,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: you're gonna learn something other than you.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: Yes, I always do. I love I love going That's
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: my favorite. I mean, I don't I've not been to
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: a lot of bigfoot museums. It might be the only one.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: But I love that place, man, And I go in
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: there and I see people I know on the walls.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: And actually, my cousin made the big old bigfoot out
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: of the Muscadine vines that's in front of the building.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: My cousin made that. Yeah, a big old I forgot
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: what he calls it. It's a big old bigfoot and
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: his eyes glow in the dark. Okay, so uh but
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: but okay, so yeah. So Judicola is an interesting place,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: and that's where they actually had the giant they talk
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: about the stone Giant, stone Coat, giants, the stone Coat,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: which is out there as well. By the way, we
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: actually had an actual skin walker that tried to walk
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: up into our camp. That's what That's what Will said.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: This gentleman that was with us, he started screaming at
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: something in this old dialect of Cherokee, and it was
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: something that was walking up behind me where I was sitting.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: And he was like when we asked him, when he
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: got Danne yelling, we knew there was something wrong, but
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: we thought he was just messing with us. Rob But
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: that man was not he was not kidding. He was
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: not messing with us. But anyways, the whole the whole
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: time we were out there, we had these things right
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: here over our heads. Now they actually look like if
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: you talk about if you look in the sky and
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: you see like the flashing lights like an airplane splashing.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: All right, just think about these things sitting stationary all
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: night from sundown till sun. Uh and uh, and they're
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: they're flashing. I want to say it was like green
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: blue red or red blue green or something. I remember
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: seeing like colors in it on all four of them.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm. It wasn't. But they were not aircraft. It
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: was not it was nothing that was organic, like not
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: non organic. Do you know what I mean? That didn't
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: make sense. It was It wasn't any kind of aircraft, right, Uh,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: like man made I guess. But this this is kind
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: of what I was seeing. It was almost like I'm
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: gonna say, plasma kind of like these things right here.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: But they were gigantic. And and so I'm bringing this up,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: Rob because you know, you and I are out there
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: doing this cryptid field research and I oftentimes do get
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: we get a lot of et activity out there, a
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: lot of orbs, a lot of UFOs. Is that the
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: case for n CI. Do y'all get this as well?
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: Well, we don't go out at that unless we absolutely
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: have to. We knew all of our investigations during daytime.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: Really, why did I not know that? You never talked
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: I don't think I've talked to you about that.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: Well, the reason why we do all of our investigations
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: during the daytime, Number one, it's heck a lot safer
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: because if you're out there in the area at night
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: and you're not one hundred percent for sure where you're going,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: if something other goes south and you've got to run,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: you have no idea which direction to run. You can
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: in the dark, you could run off of the cliff.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: You could fall and break an ankle. I mean, anything
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: possible could go wrong ten times worse in the dark
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: than you can have a daytime. And during daytime. We've
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: had all kinds of activity in the daytime. We've had
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: rocks stowed at us, we've been growled at, we've been
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: bluff charged. We've even seen the seen the creature in
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: cells dart in between the trees, and we found more
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: evidence of tree breaks, footprints and everything else in the daytime,
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: and unless somebody's actually having a problem like a barn
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: or a hen house, or the actual dwelling being being
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: readied and being aggravated by these things, we don't go
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: out of that or dark. Not saying that we won't,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying we don't normally do that. Now. On
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: other expeditions, we'll, you know, if we're just doing a
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: reconn of the area to see what goes on at
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: night time, yeah, we'll goat outside of the night and
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: we'll station up in radio becker to forward to tell
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: one another what we've seen and what we found. But
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: as far as full blown investigations, no, we do daytime.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: Gosh, that's really smart, you know. I was. I was
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: wondering if you were going to say it was because
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: of you, because of all the high stret just it's
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: out there and how dangerous in it and it is.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: I'm sure that's the factor of it. Right, It's just
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: portals and all that kind of stuff. It's really not
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: safe just to be gallivanting around the woods at night. No,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: not in the Appalachians, No, especially this time of year.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: Right now, we're we're winding up on the end of
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: dark days, and right now, snakes are unpredictable this time
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: of year. They're starting to shed their skin. They will
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: strike at anything moving because they're blind, and you know,
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: you get into bee's nest, you, I mean, the ligos
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: on and on and safety's are main focus. I mean,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: the evidence will either be there or it won't. But
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: we don't want to risk investigator getting hurt or getting killed.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: M h.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: I have I'm about to invest in some sneak chaps. Actually,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: I can't believe I don't have any. That's what every
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: single person. If you're out in the woods, especially the
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: summer and this fall, you need snake Chapska. The snakes
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: are absolutely crazy this year. I mean they're everywhere. I've
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: seen a lot of snakes. I haven't seen a lot
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: of snakes out in my hikes, but I've been seeing
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: a lot of videos that people have been sending me.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: And I've seen a lot on the roads. I've seen
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: multiple snakes on the road, okay, and i know if
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: they're in the roads, they're in the woods.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: Okay. Yeah. Taim and Rachel, two investigators of ours. It
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: was probably almost a month ago or maybe a little
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: bit better. Well, he went in to check some cameras
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: to change the cards out or we had an area
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: over in Franklin. They got about hike way in there
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: and that's as far as they got. Rachel come in
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: one hare stepping on a five foot long yellow timber rattler.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: Oh god, she.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: Just happened to blanks down by the time she started
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: to say her foot down and she boughked like a
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: horse and squalled right real big and running backwards. And
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: Tim called her before she got off balance, and he said,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: what world's going on? And they looked and had about
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: five foot long yell on timber rat. She she didn't
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: like step in on it. Oh god, no, I remember
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: where they were at. If she had a stepped on
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: it and it would have struck Rachel wouldn't be here
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: today to tell the tam.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: No, those things are so dangerous. What are aren't rattlestacks
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: like pit bibers or something. They're vibers. They are their.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: Me They have that extremely high impact when they hit.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: They'd have been known to break people's legs when they
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: hit a flir a certain size.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was looking at those snake chaps. I mean
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: I was really doing some snake chap shopping yesterday, and
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: I was looking because actually we did have a snake
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: that fell on top of my dog out at the
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: place where I go hiking and stuff.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: Dog.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: He did well, it wasn't it wasn't poisonous. It was
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: like a little water snake or something. But it still
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: landed on his head. It fell off the side of
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: the bank and it landed on him, and he didn't
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: he didn't even notice it. And I was like, so,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: but anyways, but I'm looking at these snake chaps and
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: they only go up to your knee. And I was like, man,
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, these snakes get real big, especially in Georgia
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: and the water moccasins and copperheads. They get big, they're
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna strike above your knee. If maybe I
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: saw a guy get struck in his face the other
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: day on a video, he bent down. You know, it's
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: not smart y'all. You know, when I was a kid,
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: my cousin Brian, he used to he lived down he
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: didn't live down the road from me, and we would
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: go not logs over together and we were kids go
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: look for snakes. He had the aquariums full of snakes,
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: wild snakes around his house and we would go, we'd
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: knock over like plywood, we'd pull plywood up by the
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: lake and stuff. And I was watching a video of
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: a man that pulled up a piece of plywood and
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: he had his head down and when he did, the
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: snake by got him right. When got him right when
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: he pulled up that plywood.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: I'll be the first one to admit it. And George Lunsford,
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: my co founder, will he will vouch for me because
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: he's in the same boat I'm in. Neither one of
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: us like snakes were extremely afraid of him. So if
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: you're ever on an investigation with us and it's during
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: snake time weather and you're in one spot and wearing
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: another spot and all of a sudden you smoke, you
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: can well rest assured depend George and myself got a snake.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: We do have a tendency to set the woods on fire.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: That's how bad afraid of snakes we are. Yeah.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: Well, I had a pet snake for years, for over
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: a decade, I had a red tailboa and he got huge.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: He's a bill snake. So they're terrible pets, y'all. I'm sorry.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: I don't care anybody says I had a pet snake
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: and it was a loved him to death or her
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: turned out to be her. I didn't know that, but uh,
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: terrible pet. I mean there's just have to feed them
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: rats and stuff. It sucks, okay, But anyways, I digress,
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: I digress. I'm but you know what, I think it
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: kind of helped, like growing up on a lake and
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: out on a farm, because you know, we'd cut grass
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: by the catfish pond and we all we had this
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: black racer snake that would chase anybody who cut grass
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: over there, and so I was used to getting chased
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: by snakes from being a kid over there. Yeah, this
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: thing was huge. I think hadn't been one hundred years.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: It's that snake.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: Have friends had for bumus.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: Have a heart attack?
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: Oh man?
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, well you know what we You know, I
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: did want to kind of bring up some some Cherokey
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: witches and stuff as well today, but but I've got
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: some other stuff I want to talk about before we go.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: But BMO creative, what's up? BMO creative? Y'all? Are do
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: y'all already talk about Spearfinger or the Raven Macker? Now,
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: Spearfinger is my favorite Cherokee witch. Sheep shifting. She's actually
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: a demon or something, I think, unfortunately, but but I
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: dressed up like her for Halloween last year. Rob I
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: was Spearfager. Yeah, I know, right with my long spearfinger
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: that takes the livers out of kids and eats it.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: And I know it's gross. But Raven Mocker is that?
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: Are those?
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: See?
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: In my research? We have actually, we do believe my
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: team has come across the real Spearfinger out in the woods. Now,
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: whether that be on a paranormal, interdimensional basis or what,
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: we're not sure. But what about where you live in
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: North Carolina? Is is are these threat real threats to
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: people out in the in the mountains?
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: I would say they are the I think the Raven
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: Mocker is more more than just one entity calls over
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: in uh Over in Jackson County. Uh I think uh
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: on a piece of property that Greg ogels with the
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: relic films, He's gonna come up and uh I think
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: we're gonna do a documentary on it. At some point
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: in time, there was a a place over around the
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: where miss Rachel lives. George encountered this. I did as well,
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: but with Chicken out of place and every time Tim
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: and Rachel would put out game cameras. You go back
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: five minutes later, the UH enclosure on the game camera
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: would still be closed, but when you opened up the
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: game camera, the memory card to be popped out. And
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: we have yet to figure out what's caused that. There's
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: one there's one spot where the ground there's no grace.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: There's been no grass growing there for as long as
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: everybody in that community can remember. Well, unbeknownst to me,
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: I didn't have no prior knowledge or history of the
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: said property. George and Town was probably fifty yards behind me.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: Jerry and I was walking up through there, and all
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: of a sudden, I just stopped, and Jerry said, what's
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: the matter? And I turned around. I said, did anybody
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: get killed on this piece of property? And Rachel's Maama
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: looked at me and grinned and said maybe why. I said,
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: I don't know what it is. I said, but I've
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: got a feeling somebody has either been stabbed or shot
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: right here on this one peace property. I had no
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: more than got that out of my mouth. Jerney's standing
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: behind me. He grabs his side and says ouch. When
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: I turn around, looked at him, and you know, it's
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: running joke here here in western North Carolina. I just
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: looked at him. I said, what did you do to
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: get b bit? He said no. He said it felt
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: like somebody hit me in her short ribs with a knife.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: And I said, oh, okay. So we go on up
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: the hill and then go on around on the other
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: side of the ridge. George and him comes up fifteen
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: minutes later. Now, were you want information? Both of the moors,
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: so there's nobody could be influenced on anything. George stops,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: walks like a horse and just stops dead his tracks.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: Tim said, what's the matter, and he said, I've got
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: to get out of here. He said, wow, matter, He said,
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: there's two individuals been a fighting. He said, there's a
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: I think a Raven Macker and a Cherokee Brave in
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: a fight. And the raven Maker stabs the Cherokee Brave
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: with a black obsidian blade, and before the Cherokee brain
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: hits the ground, he says something other to him in
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: Cherokee throws some dirt in his face. I mean, this
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: is what George said. He's seeing in his mind and
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: he's either hurged the raven Mocker or locked the raven
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: maker to the property. Well, the whole entire time, George,
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: and he leaves. He says, guys, I gotta get out
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: of here. He said, I can't handle this. So he's
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: tasting blood in his mouth and the whole thing is
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: replaying just like a vc R every time he hit
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: rewind and hit play his three hours later after he
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: gets home before that goes why, oh.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, So he was picking up on like
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: an imprint. Uh, somebody had missed. My buddy Eric on
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: his show is mentioning the stone coat theory. And and
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: that's like where something that plays over and over again
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: in an area, right, And uh, I mean that's interesting.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: I mean he obviously Tim is an impath. Okay, that's why.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: But like to be tasting the blood and like feeling
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: the pain and all that kind of stuff. I mean,
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: we were just talking about the granny witches and the
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: person was at a subway, somebody working at subway, right,
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: help with their kidney stone. I mean that's just like
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: an energetic thing, right, and and laying hands and things
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: like that. Well, I mean we're talking about a whole
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: universe of things that are energy workers and stuff, and
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: we're talking about I mean this oral trade of like
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: the Raven Marker and Speirbinger, they didn't come out of nowhere.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: Now there's truth in these tales. That's just like people
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: swearing giants didn't exist. You can go online and look
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: at places all over the world and you can see
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: petrified giants even still till today. Yeah, oh yeah, if
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken, it's either in Siberia or Alaska or somewhere.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: The sleeping lady that's got snow on looks like a
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: lady laying down with snow on top of it. Shoot.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's giants everywhere, giant animal snakes. I know where
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: a dragon's petrified in Alabama. I was taken to go
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: see it. I think it's a real I think it's
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: real dragon. I'll take you.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: You've got to take us down there. I'm dying seeing that.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: You know what we need to do an n c
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: I field trip and I'll take you. Okay, that's where
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: we did a dog man investigation. Actually, so I think
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: you guys, it'd be a a double prong trip most
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: sorts of things to look at out there. It's wild,
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: but man, yeah, there's psychic imprints on the land. Thank
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: you g cool. That's right. There are psychic imprints and
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: people that are sensitive like Tim, like yourself, Robed, myself,
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: all of us, we pick up on these things a
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: little more than the normal, the average bear.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: I guess you could say. I think the reason why
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: George picked up on it. He said it was like
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: a replay from like, you know, eighteen hundreds or somewhere
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: right in there. George died at one point in time
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: and then came back.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: I remember that.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: And George is thinking, and the rest of us do too,
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: that when he came back, he brought something back with him,
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: extra abilities to be able because he used to see
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: ghost all the time and still every great now and
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: then he'll still see them. But I hope I'll ever
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: have to, you know, go through something like that in
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: order to obtain a gift for whatever. I'll just play
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: with what I've got and run with it and tell
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: the good Lord looks at me and says, okay, find
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: time to quit, time to come home, continue to run
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: with it.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well they well they're called those nds near
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: death experiences, and that's uh, that's how a lot of people.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: I feel like I've probably died several times this lifetime already,
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know how. I also tell my friends, I'm like,
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: I don't know how any of us are still alive today.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: I have no idea. We shouldn't be here. We really shouldn't.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: We have been through some weird things where I don't
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: know if I even survived. Maybe that's the whole thing
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: with like, I mean, that's a whole other topic. Okay,
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: whole different topic, interdimensional stuff and timeline shifts and splits
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: and all that. But yes, Tyler, I do believe that
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: dragons and giants perpetrified and that they are rocks and boulders. Now,
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: I do. I believe that is a possibility for sure,
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: and we've covered that on shows here before on the channel. Now,
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: you mentioned that you and George will light a light
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: a forest on fire if you see a if you
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: see a snake.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: Right, well, oh yeah, both of well speak.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: Speaking of fires, Area fifty one has been on fire. Okay,
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: let's see if I can find this. Yeah, okay, a
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: monster fire has broken out Area fifty one. And this
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: just happened. Well, this is six days ago. But over
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: the weekend, I had I had some people. I had
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: at least one person I know that was riding by
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: and the Area fifty one location and uh and there
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: is a big there's like a mushroom cloud over there
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: and uh and so let says from MSN and I'm
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: pulling this up to lead into the skinny Bob information
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: that we've got today. The massive fires broken out near
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: the highly classified Area fifty one base in Nevada, sparking
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: theories that a secret weapon was recently tested there. And
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: the blaze dub the Quail Springs fire sparked on Saturday
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: and has burnt more through more than four four hundred
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: acres and the fire is located in Lincoln County, Nevada,
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: just south of Rachel and it's burning near Bald Mountain
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: on the Nevada Test and Training Range and zero percent
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: of the wildfire has been contained. It spreads within the
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: Nevada Tests and Training Range, a military training area restricted
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: to the public. They say that it was started by lightning.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: They think some people think there's something more sinister at play,
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: and a lot of people are speculating there's some kind
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: of secret energy weapon or something that was being tested
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: out there, and so there is some sort of nuclear
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: testing going on out there. Potentially, but you never know.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: This is kind of what part of the fire looks like.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: But good, great, there's so many wildfires going on right
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: now all over the country. What is what is up
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: with that? Do you think it's just the heat or
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: do you think there's something more sinister.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: Going on with the E d W.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I think. I mean, it could be.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: That's what Beth thinks to the d e WS. Well,
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: there's something fishy going on in this world. Okay, definitely
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: something fishy going on. But I do have some interesting
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: news to share with the audience today. Uh. There is
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: a very famous video of an actual alien and my
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: friend Dave Scott over at spacetut Radio actually has had
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: this Skinny Bob in his intro for his shows for
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: as long as I've known him. And for people who
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: are or not or may not be familiar, let me
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: pull up a video if you guys want to see
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: who Skinny Bob is. There is some brand new footage
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: that has just come out of Skinny Bob. Okay, so
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: let's see. Here's here's the original video. This is from
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: Alien's anonymous over on YouTube, and I'm going to play
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: some of this. You guys can see it. And while
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: we talk about let me keep it muted. Though. This
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: is Skinny Bob. This is the footage now. Skinny Bob
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: is an alleged videotape containing footage of a gray like alien.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: The video first appeared on the Internet in May of
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: twenty eleven. The video became popular in the UFO and
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: alien research community. Was speculated that it was a promotion
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: for an upcoming film or TV series, but the video
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: has also been presented as alleged leaked footage from the KGB,
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: even though that's unconfirmed. While most skeptics claim the footage
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: as a hoax, a lot of believers argue it could.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: It would cost a fortune to fake this video, and
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: since twenty eleven, no individuals have claimed credit for this video. Okay, so,
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: but that that is the original video right there, and
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: this is Skinny Bob. Now, Rob, are you familiar with
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: this video? You've seen this before, a little.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: Bit of it in the past. But back then, I
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: was still chasing ghosts in personal thing that that I
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: hadn't got into. I hadn't got into big Foot dog
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: Man in the UFOs as of yet. To be honest,
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: I don't know what to think of that, And I'm
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: about afraid to mak make a judgment call.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: Well, okay, if you're like me, I started off just
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: wanting to go look for bigfoot, okay, and all I
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: ever thought I was gonna do is go look for
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: a bigfoot. And then I ended up on a bigfoot
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: research team, and then I ended up having missing time.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: I ended up seeing UFOs and I woke up one
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: night with ET's in my bedroom. After this, after I
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: started doing the bigfoot stuff, okay, and it has been
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: a never ending rabbit hole rob and and so I
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: didn't go looking for ET's they found me and uh,
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: and so I think this is really interesting. Uh, this
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: is a pretty cool video. A lot of people do
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: believe this is a real et and and so I
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: found it really cool. I like to keep I keep
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: my ear to the streets, okay, with the hot topics
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: and uh. And so I found that there's some new
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: video footage that's been released of some more video footage
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: of Skinny Bob okay, and so I'm going to pull
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: this up for the audience to see case anybody wants
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: to check this out. We're going in the show on
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: this today because I think it's pretty cool. And let's
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: see skinny Bob's latest footage. Okay, something that this proved
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: Skinny Bob. Now, other people think, well, maybe this is
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: simply AI. Okay, and uh and and everything pretty much
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: potentially AI today, Rob.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: Even even if you had a absolute clear cut no,
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: we have bus video of bigfoot in the back of
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: your truck. People steels, They.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: Exactly, well, well, why while we're kind of looking at
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: this video now, this is from vibe wire dot com.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: This is some of the I'm gonna give you the
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: name of the original video here in just a second,
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: but this is allegedly all from the same craft that
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: this thing was on. It's the same videos, right, but
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: it's just more footage of it.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: You and I both Okay, I use AI for my
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: thumbnails okay, and I know you guys you like to
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: use AI too. We just had a conversation about this.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm a AI addicts, and I don't care
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: when bit the world did admit it because you know
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: certain things, you know, like advertisements and stuff like that.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: I don't mind to use it. But as far as
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: you know, kind of place something other offense, AI as
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 2: actually evidence, No, I'm not gonna stoop myself that load
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: in order to do that. No, if we've got the
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: actual evidence, we'll show it. If we do not have
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: the actual evidence, n C, I will won't have any
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: don't have any problem with saying, well, we don't have
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: an evidence for the day we were in the area,
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: there was against present. We don't care when it rule
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: did it, don't hurt our feelings either way.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, listen, hold on, let me mute that. Okay, this
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: is from a YouTube channel called q T E c
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: q O T. Okay, this is the and and this
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: is I'm getting this all off of the vibe wire
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: dot com. It's showing Uh, this is supposedly is allegedly
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: new footage of Skinny Bob. Okay, I don't know how
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: I can get that. Hold on, let's just do this.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: There we go and uh, and so this is supposed
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: to be more footage of Skinny Bob here. Now, in
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: my case, you know, being a cryptical field researcher and
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: then having this podcast and everything, you know, I get
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: people send me a lot of links to evidence of
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: cryptids and of aliens and stuff, and a lot of
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: times I just kind of have to assume that it's
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: just AI. I mean, it's really it really kind of
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: sucked Rob not knowing what's AI. I mean, somebody could
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: have just taken that original footage. Let's just say Skinny
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: Bob was real, the original and then now they're making
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: some extra footage with AI.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: You know, well, anything is possible. But if you sit
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: and watch a lot of the AI videos for a
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: pretty good little bit, they'll tell on ourselves.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: Will they tell me how they telling themselves?
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: So I could tell the movements won't be right? And
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 2: ninety five percent of the times when they let's just
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 2: take a big video for example, somebody creates AIV video
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 2: of Bigfoot has to say out in Cherokee, okay, yeah,
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: you're looking at it and you're thinking, okay, that looks convincing.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 2: Then you look at the ground. If it's in an
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: area where you know getting well that there will be
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: footprints left behind, and there isn't any right, there's a
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 2: good indication if the arms are not, you know, in
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: the right proportion of what everybody else has reported seeing,
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: Like I know you've seen them, I've seen them and
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: see eyeing them, monsters unleashed to see them and other
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 2: people if everything don't line up with what you know
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: in your heart, what you've seen, what you've witnessed, and
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 2: what you've encountered, and you're watching that video and everything's
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: just it's either got a glimpse to it, kind of
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 2: like what photoshop used to have, and it's got a
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 2: little bit of a a weird bounce to the video.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: H D give away for a.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: I really well, I'm okay, Well, I'm I'm gonna have
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: to send I'm gonna send you over some video. Sometimes
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: if ever I get something I can't tell, I'm gonna
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: you'll be my second set of eyes. Okay, you'll be
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: one of my.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: I had a secret on the AI program that I use.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 2: Uh huh, I've got my AI trained. Really, yeah, you've
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: been training AI. Well, i'll be I'll tell you off
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 2: the our house.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: Okay. See, I'm kind of new to all this and
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: uh and I know there's a lot of controversy right
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: now of like people using AI and not using AI
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: and whatever, and it does kind of suck. See here's
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: here's a little skinny bob down there in the corner
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: for the people that are watching uh right now live.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: But you know, I mean I think that, I mean,
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: AI is just part of our world at this point,
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: you know, And and it sucks as far as research goes,
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: not knowing what's real and what's not. And I think
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: that's kind of the point of it, is to keep
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: us confused and do not know what's real and what's not.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: Maybe for a control grid of some sort or some
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: kind of I don't know. I feel like it's kind
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: of sinister personally.
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 2: Okay, well it is. And one of these why it
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: hurts everybody in the paranormal and crypti field is on
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: acount of one thing. Yeah, as bad as I hate
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: to say it, and I'm not politicing by any means.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: If anybody takes it that away, that's not where I'm
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 2: going with it. We've seen how people reacted during COVID.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 2: They lost their ever loving confounded mind over pardon my language,
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: over stupid, retarded yunk that should not have should not
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: have happened. Well, you disclose and release the actual truth
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 2: of what this planet has got and what this plant
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: has to offer, and what we already know, and the
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 2: governments turns around and says, oh, yeah, everything out there.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 2: They're right, they're one hundred and ten percent. They're not joking.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 2: You're gonna have ever nut ever knit with every height
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 2: with goofball in the country, shooting at everything that moves
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 2: in the woods. And you're gonna have complete pandemonium. You're
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 2: gonna have the ones that wanted to go out there
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 2: that don't pay attention, They don't look, they're not out
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 2: there specifically to hunt cryptids. They're just you know, enjoying
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 2: the birds and join the view and enjoin the waterfalls.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 2: And what they're gonna be so scared they won't go
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 2: they won't even go out of the house to go
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 2: Walmart anymore. But because they'll be afraid of Bigfoot, dog Man,
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 2: Windy Go or skin walker be a running across the
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 2: parking lots, snatch him up, Balldeddy. I mean, seriously, you've
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: seen how everybody acted. Yeah, I mean, it was pandemonium.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 2: And in my opinion, that wasn't a pandemic. That was
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 2: a plandemic to see just how pardon my French, retarded
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 2: people can get. And I'm not saying I'm not using
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: that word as a derogatory ah slur towards people with
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 2: the actual you know, disabilities of the mind. I'm just
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 2: saying there's a there's a line where people needs to go, Hey,
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 2: the government is never our friend, because if you believe
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 2: that they are, go talk to a Native American and
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 2: you'll find out right real quick mm. Because absolutely we're
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 2: the most dangerous words in the world in back in
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 2: the year. I'm from the government and I'm here to help.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: That's right, terrifying that it's.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 2: All it's all a control human chess type deal. I mean,
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: if I take bullets over my statement, fam, I don't care.
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 2: I call it like I see it. I don't sugar
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 2: coat anything.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: Yes, I appreciate that. No, you're right, you know, there
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: is a there's always a control factor to everything. And
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: that's why some people claim, you know, they don't think
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: we'll ever get full disclosure on the ets. We've gotten
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: a lot of disclosure, but we'll never get we'll get
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: all of it. No, we'll never get all of it
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: because it's not they can't control it.
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 2: So, as I say, just just for the heck of it,
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 2: let's just say that all these alien races that the
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 2: government has already named bust, the ones that we don't
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 2: don't even know about yet. There are every single solitary
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 2: warm reel. Let's just say that they are. I'm not
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 2: you know, I'm not I'm playing devil's advocate here. If
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 2: alien races the government just goes full blown disclosure on
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 2: all of it, what do you think is gonna be
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 2: the first thing that's gonna happen.
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: People are gonna lose their minds. Honestly, some people, not everybody,
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: but the world's government's.
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 2: Gonna be taken out by these alien races because they
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 2: want that information to be let out. Either.
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 1: Well, I see some of us think the reptilians are
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: running our governments.
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 2: Say I wasn't doubt that one't bit. I mean, that's
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 2: just my personal opinion some of the you know, again,
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 2: not trying to politic or anything else. Right matter, you
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 2: get to looking at certain things and certain vowels and
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 2: and everything. You're sitting there going wait just a minute,
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 2: how can somebody in their right mind do all that
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 2: kind of evil without some kind of influence behind it.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: There's definitely a it's definitely a spiritual war going on
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: right now, for sure, galactic, spiritual, three D. It's all interdimensional,
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: all of it, and I don't know, I'm I'm here
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: for all of it. And I don't know how I
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: can help, but I'm here to try to pick through
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: it and come.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 2: Through, make schense out of it. It's about all you
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 2: can do.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: We need to see her and talk about it. But
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: you know, it is what it is. But they said,
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: that's why it's important for us to also get back
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: to nature, you know, spend time in nature and get
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: your batteries recharged. Get away, get out of this matrix
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: system where everybody's in fear and and you know, just
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: keeping your head down all the time and just being
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: under control, you know, get back, get in some greennywitching, y'all. Okay,
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: you know I want all y'all ladies to be greennie witches. Okay,
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: by the by the end of this year, we're all
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: gonna be living in cabins in the woods, making pictures
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: and saves. And I'm gonna be a Yeah, I'm gonna
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: be a granny witch one day. Rob, I've already decided.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's something you can become or
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: something you just are. I think something you just are.
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 2: Well, some people is born with the with the natural
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 2: knowledge of it, and then some people have to be taught.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 2: But either way, you look at it, bottom line, cut
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 2: and dried. The old ways were the way to go
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 2: because everything was natural, the body, note how to process it.
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 2: Everything that we've got now today is you know, chemically enhanced.
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 2: It's been created at a lab. It's been you know,
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 2: it's been tinkered with, it's been watered down. It's been
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 2: taken to the point where the madison that we take
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 2: today from you know, Dockers, Big Farma and everything else,
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 2: they're designed to keep you sick and designed to hurt
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 2: you instead of curing with the old ways. Yeah, you went,
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 2: you went, you know, you dug up from that and
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 2: the other and a lot of the people way back
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 2: when lived a little bit longer than the people do today.
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: Which is it's almost shocking. We should have longer life
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: spans today, especially the technology that we have, but we're
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: having shorter ones. And I just saw there trying to
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: raise the retirement age about like ten extra years or something.
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: It's just we live in crazy town, rob, we live
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: in absolute crazy town, upside down world and uh and
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 1: so yeah, is to get back.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 2: To nature outside down just like stranger things.
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can say one hundred percent, yes, I agree
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: with that statement. We do oh man, Well, well, we
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: are going to keep it pushing. And I have really
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: enjoyed this conversation today. Rob, Thank you so much for
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 1: being here with me.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 2: It was fun. Oh it was a pleasure, my dear, thank.
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: You, Thank you. Man. So we went all the way
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: from Carolina, Cryptids, Granny Witches, Skinny Bob and every fifty
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: one burning today and oh yeah, and you and George
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: potentially burning down for us over snakes. That is so funny.
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: I think there are a lot of people listening right
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: now that could relate to that now. And everybody likes snakes, so.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, I know people right now, but if they
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 2: see a spider or see a mouse, they will change
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 2: religions about thirty seven different times. Think about that, bad Dunlocke. Yeah,
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 2: Jan I are right along live me on State.
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: So, oh my gosh, it was so funny when you
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: said that, you you gave a combination word of all
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: the different churches that you went to, and I was
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: thinking in my mind, I was like, well, I grew
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: up Bathetists like Baptists and Methodists, you know, but you
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: I forgot what you said. It was really funny. I
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: can appreciate it.
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 2: Baptistel Baptis Costell.
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: I was Bathetist, okay, and I used to I used
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: to actually say that, and when I kind of switched
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: back and forth my Baptist Church our Methodist church.
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 2: So right, But I mean, you know, to me, I
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 2: don't care what somebody's religion is or whatever. As long
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 2: as they trusted the Lord and they looking towards him
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 2: each and every single solitary day, that's all that matters.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: That's right, That's right, Bonnie says. All the Lizzies ruling
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: the world, we need Granny Witches to banish them, all
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: the lizard pas Granny Witches night. Oh man, I've always
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: wanted to be a greenny witch. Anyways, That's definitely. That's
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: definitely where I'm headed in my older years. Okay. Well,
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: in the meanwhile, we're going to be hanging out watching
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: NCI and Grandpa's Old hant Tails. Tell the audience where
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: they can find you and about your shows.
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 2: Rob each and every Tuesday night at seven seven pm
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 2: Live North Carolina Investigates right here on YouTube, and at
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 2: nine o'clock on the same channel is Grandpa's Old hank Tails.
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 2: We tell stories. Some of them are troops you just
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 2: make up your mind that you're conscience, be your guide
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 2: whether or not they are true. We tell about Bigfoot,
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 2: dog Man, old ghosts, we use you name it. And
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 2: we also we bring comedy in on and each and
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 2: every show, whether it's Grandpa's Hank Tails or North Carolina Investigates,
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 2: we cut up and carry on in that act. Any
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 2: ways out in public, just go. We'll attest to that. Well,
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 2: we'll have your life, and we bring the truth and
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 2: nothing but the truth. We're not gonna lie to you
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 2: on anything. And if you can't even have fun with
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 2: crypto zoology and the parent on the work world, you're
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 2: in it for the wrong reason.
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: That's right. We always have fun when I hang out
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: with y'all.
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 2: I got.
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: I had the privilege of hanging out with y'all quite
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: a bit the past couple of years. Some of these
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: events oops my dog and uh and so, like I said,
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: we always have a good time. And y'all keep me
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 1: in stitches for sure. And uh and so we're gonna
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: have to well, we're gonna have to link back up soon.
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: I'll tell y'all to go see that dragon.
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 2: How about that? Okay, we'll talk.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: We'll talk behind the scenes about that, okaysident undisclosed location.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: I can't give the location away, but I can give
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: you the coordinates in private.
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 2: Okay, there you go.
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got the coordinates.
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: Will y'all please go over and check out Grandpa's old
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: hate tells. And you are a co host with Cindy,
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: correct you?
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 2: And I've got Cindy South as a co host. I've
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 2: got Vince Donald Cope as a co host as well.
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 2: And uh, if I don't butcher his name, bless his heart,
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 2: Richard Pauli Alto. I think that's how you pronounce his name.
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 2: He is the bodyguard for Russell A. Court.
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 1: No way, He's just a badass, that's what he is.
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he is an extreme nice individual and I
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 2: can't ask for a better person. Everybody that's in the
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 2: uh that the subscribers for NCI and Grandpa Hank Hill
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 2: will call him the cryptid Nation. We get the best
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 2: audience in the world. We went and take a million
• 1:43:53
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• 1:43:56
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• 1:43:59
  Speaker 2: in and on this each and never Tuesday and Thursday night,
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 2: seven o'clock for NCI nine nine pm for Grandpa's old
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 2: hank tail. You never know what's gonna pop up. It
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 2: could be a complete discussion like want being uh Jessica's
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 2: had today. Then again, it may be fifteen or twenty
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 2: hank tails back to back. You never know.
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: Well, it's always a good time, that's for sure. And
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 1: I a lot two. You guys have great guests on
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: there and fellow boots on the ground field researchers as well.
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: And you even played some audio with tree Trade from
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: one from my team's Trey had someone's on there and
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: then I saw him and you guys play some some
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: audio and stuff. I mean, you get down to the
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 1: meat and potatoes of what's really going on out there.
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if we found it, we don't care one bit
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 2: in the world to share it with anybody. And everything
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 2: that we've done is what we've actually actually caught. We
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 2: leave recorders of the woods for two three months at
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 2: a time, reverix months of the time.
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: Oh man, Well, it's a great place. You guys are
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 1: a good resource for people who are out in North
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: Carolina as well. Now, do you guys do investigations? Can
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: people contact you in case they have a big Foot
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: or dog man sighting.
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's make an email Usten m c I dot
• 1:45:19
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• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: Okay, well we'll put that down, put that in the
• 1:45:26
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• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: down there. I think I did put it down there.
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: I've got I've got your email address down there, I think.
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 2: So.
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: Okay, well, yeah, well amazing, this has been really fantastic.
• 1:45:39
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• 1:46:15
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• 1:46:20
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• 1:46:24
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• 1:46:30
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• 1:46:43
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• 1:46:48
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• 1:46:51
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  Speaker 1: You know what I do. I'll put an n CI
• 1:47:08
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• 1:47:12
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• 1:47:14
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• 1:47:27
  Speaker 1: the entire show. So thank you. Y'all came in clutched today.
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 1: You always do, and I really do appreciate y'all. Beverly
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: wants to know, will y'all come to Takoa? Is that Georgia?
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 1: Because I love camping Intokoa going up to that. We
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: drive up to that the mountain. It's like where they
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: got the radio towers and stuff. I love that place,
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: one of my favorite. Yeah yeah, my buddy Craig lives
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: over by Takoa Gunlog and uh and so yeah, they
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 1: was real squashy up there, I said, North Georgia. If
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 1: that's the same to CoA, you're talking about Beverly and
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 1: thank you. Yeah, well granny witch is U night. Everybody,
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 1: now we know what a granny witch is if you
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 1: didn't already, and so Rob, thank you again so much
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: for being here. Please stay safe out there, get you
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: some snake chaps, okay, just in case. All right, well,
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 1: please tell all my brothers over at NCI that I said, hello, okay,
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: and you have.
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 2: A open invitation anytime you want to come on to
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 2: show you just holler.
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: Well, thank you. I appreciate that. And y'all have an
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: open invite over here too, And we really are like
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 1: siblings and good friends and family.
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 2: Absolutely I remember as well.
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, thank you absolutely well heck yeah, and yeah,
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: like I said, do you guys want to I don't
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: know if y'all got any events coming up or anything,
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 1: but we usually do run into each other at some
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 1: of these Bigfoot conferences and things like that, so I.
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 2: Think I think it's towards the end of the month,
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 2: and think it's around about twenty fourth. The Western North
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 2: Carolina Bigfoot Festival is gonna be in Mary in North Carolina,
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 2: and we will be with Sasquatch Tree Con at their
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 2: table this year.
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 1: Oh fantastic. Now that's Tim Dillsgrew, isn't it is.
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 2: That Tim's still a part of Sasquat's Freecon. That's Dwatt
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 2: Campbell and Bob, Bob Trent and Bob and Dwatt's gonna
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 2: be speaking this year at the festival. So they got
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 2: a big enough room, so he told pass, then come
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 2: on down, bring you stuff and say it out and
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 2: we'll have a ball of that. Festival is always rocking.
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 2: There's usually around about fifty or sixty thousand people in
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 2: the crowd.
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 1: Man, you know what I'm going. I'm gonna lasso Dwight Campbell,
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 1: get him on the show. I have not had Dwight
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 1: on the show. I just think he's a course, he's
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 1: so hard.
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 2: What is a eight number one? You can't He's a
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 2: Holly intelligence and he's number one somebody.
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 1: Man. He came He actually came down with Jerry and
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 1: Tim to my Bigfoot Town Hall that I had out
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 1: at Macintoson's Nerve and I had the best time talking
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 1: to him. So shout out to Dwight and all the
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 1: guys over n CI North Carolina, all my North Carolina
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 1: buddies up there, and uh absolutely all right, Rob, Well,
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 1: I have a wonderful day. Rob, Thank you so much
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: again for being here. We'll see you over at n
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 1: CI North Carolina Investigates and Grandpa's Old Hat Tills on
• 1:50:35
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• 1:50:38
  Speaker 1: the show. Thank y'all so much for being here today.
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 1: It means the world to me that y'all came and
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  Speaker 1: hung out with us all day, all afternoon here and
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  Speaker 1: come back and see me on Wednesday. I'll be back
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  Speaker 1: here at one pm Eastern on a glitch in the matrix.
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  Speaker 1: I'll have a wonderful day, and please stay safe out there.
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  Speaker 1: Don't live in fear, living awareness, and I'll see y'all
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  Speaker 1: on Wednesday.
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  Speaker 3: Bye.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's it's it's it's