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Black Widow (2021) · Verbal Diorama

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Hi,
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everyone.
2:41
I'm
2:41
Em,
2:41
and
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welcome
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to
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Verbal
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Diorama,
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episode
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308,
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Black
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Widow.
2:46
This
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is
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the
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podcast
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that's
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all
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about
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the
2:47
history
2:48
and
2:48
legacy
2:48
of
2:48
movies
2:49
you
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know
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and
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movies
2:50
you
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don't.
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That
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has
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red
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in
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her
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ledger
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and
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she'd
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like
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to
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wipe
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it
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out.
2:54
But
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can
2:55
you
2:55
wipe
2:55
out
2:56
that
2:56
much
2:56
red?
2:58
Welcome
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to
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Verbal
2:59
Diorama.
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Whether
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you
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are
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a
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brbrand-newandnewlistenertothispodcast,whetheryouarea
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regular
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returning
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listener,
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thank
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you
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so
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much
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for
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being
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here.
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Thank
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you
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so
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much
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for
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choosing
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to
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listen
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to
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this
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podcast.
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I
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am,
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as
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always,
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so
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happy
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to
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have
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you
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here
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for
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the
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history
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and
3:11
Legacy
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of
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Black
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Widow.
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And
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if
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you
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are
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a
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regular
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returning
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listener,
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thank
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you
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so
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much
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for
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continuing
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to
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listen
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to
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and
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support
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this
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podcast.
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Even
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if
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you've
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only
3:23
been
3:23
here
3:23
for
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a
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little
3:23
bit,
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whether
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you've
3:24
been
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here
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for
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the
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last
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six
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years
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and
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over
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300
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episodes,
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thank
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you
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so
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much
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for
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your
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support.
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It
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genuinely
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means
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so
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much
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to
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have
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you
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come
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back
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to
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this
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podcast
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and
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hopefully
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enjoy
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this
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podcast
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enough
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for
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you
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to
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come
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back
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to
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this
3:37
podcast.
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And
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of
3:38
course,
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having
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over
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300
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episodes
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of
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a
3:41
film
3:41
history
3:42
podcast
3:43
means
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that
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if
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I
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need
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to
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take
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a
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break,
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I
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can
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rely
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on
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some
3:47
of
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the
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archive
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to
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fill
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in
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the
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gap.
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And
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that's
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why
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the
3:50
archival
3:51
Superman
3:52
episodes
3:52
have
3:53
been
3:53
on
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the
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feed
3:53
for
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the
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last
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couple
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of
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weeks.
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Because
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I
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was
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due
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to
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take
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a
3:56
week
3:56
off
3:57
and
3:57
then
3:58
I
3:58
started
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to
3:58
feel
3:59
a
3:59
bit
3:59
poorly
3:59
so
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I
4:00
decided
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to
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take
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another
4:01
week.
4:02
But
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luckily
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I've
4:03
got
4:03
plenty
4:03
of
4:03
old
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episodes
4:04
in
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the
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arsenal
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to
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kind
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of
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bring
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out
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and
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introduce
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to
4:07
people
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who
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maybe
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haven't
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listened
4:09
to
4:09
those
4:09
episodes.
4:10
Previous
4:11
to
4:11
the
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Superman
4:12
episode
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was
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Batman
4:13
and
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Robin,
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which
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has
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honestly
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just
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done
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so
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remarkably
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well.
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People
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love
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the
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Joel
4:18
Schumacher
4:18
Batmans
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and
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I'm
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so
4:20
here
4:20
for
4:20
it.
4:20
I
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wish
4:21
we
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could
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have
4:21
had
4:21
more
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Joel
4:22
Schumacher
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Batmans.
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We
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didn't
4:24
know.
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But
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what
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we
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do
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have
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is
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a
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beautiful
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time
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capsule
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of
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how
4:27
our
4:28
superhero
4:28
movies
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could
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have
4:29
been
4:30
had
4:30
it
4:30
all
4:30
been
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different.
4:31
But
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I
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am
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back
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after
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a
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couple
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of
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weeks
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off
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and
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I'm
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back
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with
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more
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superheroes
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on
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purpose
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because
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I
4:39
re
4:39
watched
4:39
Black
4:39
Widow
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a
4:40
couple
4:40
of
4:40
months
4:40
ago
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and
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I
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liked
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it
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so
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much
4:42
more
4:43
than
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I
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did
4:43
the
4:43
first
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time
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I
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saw.
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Feels
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a
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little
4:46
like
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the
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black
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sheep
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of
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the
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MCU
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in
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so
4:48
many
4:48
ways.
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A
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movie
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made
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after
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it
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should
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have
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been,
4:51
but
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also
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a
4:52
movie
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that
4:52
has
4:53
become
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more
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important
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as
4:54
time
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has
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progressed.
4:56
In
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2010,
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Scarlett
4:58
Johansson
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brought
4:59
Natasha
4:59
Romanoff
5:00
to
5:00
life
5:00
in
5:00
Iron
5:01
Man
5:01
2.
5:02
Since
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then,
5:02
she's
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appeared
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in
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seven
5:03
different
5:04
Marvel
5:04
movies,
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more
5:05
than
5:05
any
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other
5:06
Avenger
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except
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Robert
5:07
Downey
5:08
Jr's
5:08
Iron
5:08
man
5:09
and
5:09
Chris
5:09
Evans's
5:10
Captain
5:11
America.
5:11
Both
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of
5:12
those
5:12
characters
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have
5:13
had
5:13
three
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solo
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films,
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with
5:15
Cap
5:15
technically
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now
5:16
having
5:16
four.
5:17
Since
5:17
Sam
5:18
Wilson
5:18
is
5:18
the
5:19
new
5:19
Captain
5:19
America
5:20
in
5:20
addition
5:21
to
5:21
screen
5:21
time,
5:21
Black
5:22
Widow
5:22
is
5:22
more
5:23
than
5:23
just
5:23
the
5:23
token
5:24
woman
5:24
in
5:24
the
5:24
Avengers.
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Natasha
5:26
was
5:26
the
5:26
soul
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of
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the
5:27
mMCUcu,acharacterwho
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delved
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into
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her
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own
5:30
checkchequerederedpast,atruepioneerofredemption,carryingtheweight
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of
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her
5:34
own
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sin
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and
5:35
her
5:36
previous
5:36
actions.
5:37
Despite
5:38
all
5:38
of
5:38
that,
5:38
we
5:38
didn't
5:39
get
5:39
a
5:39
Black
5:39
Widow
5:40
solo
5:40
movie.
5:41
Fans
5:41
saw
5:42
the
5:42
value
5:42
of
5:43
Natasha
5:43
beyond
5:44
her
5:44
skin,
5:44
tight
5:45
catsuits
5:45
and
5:45
crushing
5:46
thighs.
5:46
And
5:47
despite
5:47
a
5:47
few
5:47
issues
5:48
with
5:48
her
5:48
storylines
5:49
over
5:49
the
5:49
years,
5:50
yes,
5:50
I'm
5:50
predominantly
5:51
looking
5:51
at
5:51
you.
5:51
Age
5:52
of
5:52
Ultron,
5:53
female
5:53
representation
5:54
within
5:54
the
5:54
wider
5:55
MCU
5:55
was
5:56
getting
5:56
better.
5:57
But
5:57
we
5:57
still
5:57
didn't
5:58
get
5:58
another
5:58
female
5:59
hero
5:59
till
5:59
2014
6:00
when
6:01
Gamora
6:01
showed
6:02
up.
6:02
And
6:02
still
6:03
the
6:03
Black
6:03
Widow
6:04
solo
6:04
movie
6:05
never
6:05
came
6:06
until
6:06
2021.
6:08
After
6:08
the
6:08
character
6:09
had
6:09
sacrificed
6:09
herself
6:10
to
6:10
save
6:10
humanity
6:11
in
6:11
2019's
6:13
Endgame,
6:13
Natasha
6:14
finally
6:15
wiped
6:15
out
6:15
the
6:16
red
6:16
in
6:16
her
6:17
ledger.
6:18
But
6:18
the
6:18
question
6:19
remains,
6:19
why
6:20
didn't
6:20
we
6:20
get
6:20
a
6:21
solo
6:21
Black
6:21
Widow
6:22
movie
6:22
during
6:22
the
6:22
peak
6:23
of
6:23
the
6:23
MCU?
6:24
Why
6:24
did
6:25
she?
6:25
And
6:26
we
6:26
have
6:26
to
6:26
wait
6:27
11
6:27
years?
6:28
And
6:28
once
6:28
she
6:29
got
6:29
her
6:29
solo
6:30
movie,
6:30
Scarlett
6:31
Johansson
6:31
sued
6:32
Disney.
6:33
Don't
6:33
worry,
6:33
they're
6:33
friends
6:34
again.
6:34
Now.
6:35
Here's
6:35
the
6:35
trailer
6:36
for
6:36
Black
6:37
Widow.
8:46
Set
8:46
between
8:46
the
8:47
events
8:47
of
8:47
Captain
8:48
Civil
8:48
War
8:48
and
8:49
Avengers
8:49
Infinity
8:50
War,
8:50
Natasha
8:51
Romanov
8:51
is
8:52
a
8:52
fugitive
8:52
for
8:53
violating
8:53
the
8:53
Sokovia
8:54
Accords
8:55
and
8:55
flees
8:55
to
8:55
a
8:56
safe
8:56
house
8:56
in
8:56
Norway,
8:57
aided
8:57
by
8:58
Rick
8:58
Mason,
8:58
who
8:59
gives
8:59
her
8:59
mail
9:00
from
9:00
her
9:00
safe
9:00
house
9:00
in
9:01
Budapest.
9:02
When
9:02
Natasha
9:03
is
9:03
attacked
9:03
by
9:03
an
9:03
unknown
9:04
assailant
9:04
who
9:05
can
9:05
replicate
9:05
her
9:05
every
9:06
move,
9:06
she
9:07
realizes
9:07
that
9:07
the
9:07
attacker
9:08
wants
9:08
something
9:09
in
9:09
her
9:09
mail.
9:10
She
9:10
escapes
9:11
with
9:11
vials
9:11
of
9:12
red
9:12
gas
9:12
sent
9:12
to
9:13
her
9:13
by
9:13
her
9:13
sister
9:13
Yelena.
9:15
Going
9:15
back
9:15
to
9:15
Budapest,
9:16
she
9:16
finds
9:17
Yelena,
9:17
who
9:18
was
9:18
previously
9:18
under
9:19
the
9:19
control
9:19
of
9:19
Dreykov,
9:20
a
9:20
man
9:21
Natasha
9:21
thought
9:22
long
9:22
dead
9:23
who
9:23
runs
9:23
the
9:23
Black
9:24
Widow
9:24
program.
9:25
The
9:25
same
9:25
program
9:25
she
9:26
escaped
9:26
from.
9:27
Dreykov
9:28
is
9:28
kidnapping
9:28
and
9:28
brainwashing
9:29
young
9:29
girls
9:30
and
9:30
women
9:31
with
9:31
the
9:31
gas
9:31
in
9:32
those
9:32
vials.
9:32
And
9:33
together,
9:33
Natasha
9:34
and
9:34
Yelena,
9:35
along
9:35
with
9:35
their
9:35
adoptive
9:36
parents,
9:37
must
9:37
destroy
9:37
the
9:37
Red
9:38
Room
9:38
once
9:38
and
9:39
for
9:39
all.
9:40
Let's
9:41
run
9:41
through
9:41
the
9:41
cast.
9:42
We
9:42
have
9:42
Scarlett
9:43
Johansson
9:43
as
9:43
Natasha
9:44
Romanov,
9:45
AKA
9:45
Black
9:45
Widow.
9:46
Florence
9:47
Pugh
9:47
as
9:47
Yelena
9:48
Belova
9:49
David
9:49
Harbour
9:50
as
9:50
Alexei
9:51
Shostakov,
9:52
AKA
9:52
Red
9:52
Guardian
9:53
Ot
9:54
Fagbenli
9:55
as
9:55
Rick
9:55
Mason,
9:56
Olga
9:57
Kurylenko
9:58
as
9:58
Antonia
9:59
Dreykov,
9:59
AKA
10:00
Taskmaster
10:01
William
10:02
Hurt
10:02
as
10:02
Thaddeus
10:03
Ross
10:04
Ray
10:04
Winston
10:05
as
10:05
Dreykov,
10:06
and
10:06
Rachel
10:07
Weisz
10:07
as
10:07
Melina
10:08
Vostokoff.
10:09
Black
10:10
Widow
10:10
has
10:10
a
10:11
screenplay
10:11
by
10:11
Eric
10:12
Pearson,
10:13
story
10:13
by
10:13
Jack
10:14
Schaefer
10:14
and
10:14
Ned
10:15
Benson,
10:15
was
10:16
directed
10:16
by
10:17
Kate
10:17
Shortland,
10:18
and
10:18
was
10:18
based
10:19
on
10:19
the
10:19
Marvel
10:19
Comics.
10:21
The
10:21
character
10:22
of
10:22
Black
10:22
Widow
10:22
was
10:23
first
10:23
introduced
10:23
into
10:23
the
10:24
MCU
10:24
in
10:24
Iron
10:25
Man
10:25
2
10:25
in
10:25
2010,
10:26
posing
10:27
as
10:27
Stark
10:28
employee
10:28
Natalie
10:29
Rushman.
10:30
Natasha
10:30
Romanov,
10:31
or
10:31
Natalia
10:32
Alionovna
10:33
Romanova,
10:34
to
10:34
give
10:34
her
10:34
her
10:34
canonical
10:35
full
10:35
name,
10:36
was
10:36
an
10:36
expert
10:37
spy
10:37
trained
10:38
in
10:38
the
10:38
Red
10:38
Room
10:38
in
10:38
Russia
10:39
as
10:39
a
10:39
child
10:39
assassin,
10:40
later
10:41
recruited
10:41
and
10:41
defected
10:42
to
10:42
the
10:42
United
10:43
States
10:43
working
10:44
for
10:44
SHIELD
10:44
alongside
10:45
her
10:45
closest
10:46
friend
10:46
Clint
10:47
Barton.
10:47
Natasha
10:48
not
10:48
only
10:49
became
10:49
the
10:49
only
10:49
female
10:50
founding
10:50
member
10:51
of
10:51
the
10:51
Avengers,
10:52
her
10:52
ongoing
10:53
treatment
10:53
within
10:53
the
10:54
MCU
10:54
was
10:55
both
10:55
widely
10:55
praised
10:56
and
10:56
and
10:56
widely
10:57
criticized
10:58
for
10:58
several
10:59
reasons.
11:00
The
11:00
character
11:00
of
11:01
Black
11:01
Widow
11:01
first
11:01
appeared
11:02
in
11:02
Tales
11:03
of
11:03
suspense
11:03
number
11:04
52
11:04
in
11:05
1964
11:06
as
11:06
a
11:06
villain
11:07
for
11:07
Iron
11:07
man,
11:08
created
11:08
by
11:09
Stan
11:09
Lee,
11:09
Don
11:10
Rico,
11:10
and
11:10
Don
11:10
Heck,
11:12
but
11:12
not
11:12
really
11:12
looking
11:13
like
11:13
the
11:13
Black
11:13
Widow.
11:14
We
11:14
now
11:14
know
11:15
this
11:15
Black
11:16
Widow
11:16
was
11:16
a
11:16
seductress,
11:17
only
11:18
spying
11:18
on
11:18
Tony
11:19
Stark
11:19
for
11:19
the
11:19
Soviet
11:20
government.
11:21
Despite
11:21
that
11:21
initial
11:22
appearance
11:22
as
11:22
an
11:23
enemy,
11:23
the
11:23
character
11:24
was
11:24
reformed
11:25
as
11:25
a
11:25
hero
11:25
in
11:26
The
11:26
Avengers
11:26
number
11:26
30
11:27
in
11:27
1960
11:29
after
11:29
appearing
11:29
in
11:30
previous
11:30
issues
11:31
and
11:31
switching
11:31
sides
11:32
after
11:32
her
11:32
newfound
11:33
love
11:33
for
11:33
Hawkeye
11:34
fixed
11:35
her
11:35
Soviet
11:36
brainwashing.
11:37
The
11:38
most
11:38
significant
11:38
aspect
11:39
of
11:39
her
11:39
origin
11:39
involves
11:40
the
11:40
Red
11:40
Room,
11:41
a
11:41
secret
11:41
Soviet
11:42
training
11:42
facility.
11:43
According
11:44
to
11:44
her
11:44
backstory,
11:45
Natasha
11:45
was
11:46
taken
11:46
as
11:46
a
11:46
child
11:47
and
11:47
subjected
11:48
to
11:48
intensive
11:48
training
11:49
in
11:49
espionage,
11:50
combat,
11:51
and
11:51
assassination.
11:52
The
11:52
program
11:53
was
11:53
designed
11:53
to
11:53
create
11:54
perfect
11:55
female
11:55
operatives,
11:56
with
11:56
Natasha
11:57
being
11:57
one
11:58
of
11:58
their
11:58
most
11:58
successful
11:59
graduates.
12:00
In
12:00
the
12:01
comics,
12:01
Natasha
12:01
received
12:02
a
12:02
version
12:02
of
12:02
the
12:03
Super
12:03
Soldier
12:03
Serum
12:04
similar
12:04
to
12:04
what
12:05
created
12:05
Captain
12:05
America,
12:06
which
12:06
slowed
12:07
her
12:07
aging
12:07
process
12:08
and
12:08
enhanced
12:09
her
12:09
physical
12:09
capabilities.
12:10
This
12:11
explains
12:11
how
12:11
she
12:12
could
12:12
remain
12:12
active
12:13
for
12:13
decades,
12:14
having
12:14
allegedly
12:15
been
12:15
active
12:15
Since
12:16
World
12:16
War
12:16
II
12:16
in
12:17
some
12:17
versions
12:17
of
12:18
her
12:18
history.
12:19
Yelena
12:19
Belova
12:20
debuted
12:21
in
12:21
Inhumans
12:22
vol.2.5
12:23
in
12:23
March
12:24
1999
12:25
and
12:25
appeared
12:26
fully
12:26
in
12:26
the
12:26
miniseries
12:27
Black
12:27
Widow
12:28
in
12:28
1999
12:29
as
12:30
the
12:30
second
12:30
incarnation
12:31
of
12:31
the
12:31
Black
12:32
Widow
12:32
after
12:32
Natasha
12:33
Romanoff.
12:34
Canonically,
12:35
Natasha
12:35
and
12:36
Yelena
12:36
were
12:36
not
12:37
sisters
12:37
and
12:37
actually
12:38
didn't
12:38
get
12:38
on
12:39
all
12:39
that
12:39
well.
12:40
Yelena
12:40
Belova
12:41
would
12:41
also
12:41
transform
12:42
into
12:42
a
12:42
version
12:43
of
12:43
the
12:43
Super
12:43
Adaptoid,
12:44
a
12:45
human
12:45
machine
12:45
hybrid
12:46
that
12:46
can
12:46
copy
12:46
the
12:46
powers
12:47
of
12:47
the
12:47
New
12:48
Avengers.
12:49
Natasha,
12:49
as
12:50
a
12:50
comic
12:50
book
12:50
hero
12:51
with
12:51
no
12:51
obvious
12:51
powers
12:52
except
12:52
for
12:52
being
12:53
smart,
12:53
strong
12:53
and
12:54
capable,
12:55
meant
12:55
she
12:55
had
12:56
all
12:56
the
12:56
attributes
12:57
needed
12:57
for
12:57
a
12:57
live
12:58
action
12:58
version
12:58
of
12:58
her
12:59
character.
13:00
But
13:00
her
13:00
appearance
13:01
in
13:01
the
13:01
MCU
13:01
wasn't
13:02
the
13:02
first
13:02
time
13:02
the
13:03
character
13:03
of
13:03
Natasha
13:04
Romanoff
13:04
was
13:05
going
13:05
to
13:05
appear
13:05
on
13:06
the
13:06
big
13:06
screen
13:07
in
13:07
the
13:07
early
13:08
2000s,
13:08
X
13:09
Men
13:09
and
13:09
Spider
13:09
man
13:10
had
13:10
proven
13:10
there
13:11
was
13:11
a
13:11
market
13:11
for
13:11
big
13:12
screen
13:12
comic
13:12
book
13:13
adaptations
13:14
starring
13:14
a
13:15
variety
13:15
of
13:15
characters,
13:16
as
13:16
well
13:16
as
13:16
the
13:17
Bourne
13:17
Identity
13:17
and
13:18
Mission
13:18
Impossible
13:19
series,
13:19
showing
13:20
that
13:20
spy
13:21
movies
13:21
were
13:21
popular.
13:22
And
13:22
in
13:22
2004,
13:23
Lionsgate
13:24
Entertainment
13:25
was
13:25
granted
13:25
a
13:26
license
13:26
by
13:26
Marvel
13:27
Enterprises
13:28
to
13:28
produce
13:28
and
13:29
distribute
13:29
theatrical
13:30
films
13:30
on
13:31
two
13:31
specific
13:32
Marvel
13:32
characters.
13:33
Lionsgate
13:34
had
13:34
already
13:35
acquired
13:35
artisan
13:36
entertainment
13:36
in
13:37
2003,
13:38
and
13:38
with
13:38
that
13:39
had
13:39
acquired
13:40
the
13:40
Punisher,
13:41
which
13:41
had
13:41
a
13:41
midi
13:42
version
13:42
due
13:42
out
13:42
in
13:43
April
13:43
2004,
13:44
starring
13:44
Thomas
13:45
Jane
13:45
and
13:45
John
13:45
Travolta.
13:47
So
13:47
they
13:47
had
13:47
the
13:47
Punisher
13:48
on
13:48
their
13:48
books
13:49
already,
13:50
but
13:50
now
13:50
they
13:50
also
13:51
had
13:51
Danny
13:52
Rand,
13:52
AKA
13:53
Iron
13:53
Fist,
13:54
and
13:54
the
13:54
Soviet
13:55
Union's
13:55
premier
13:56
spy,
13:56
Natasha
13:57
Romanoff,
13:58
AKA
13:58
Black
13:58
Widow.
14:00
The
14:00
Punisher
14:00
was
14:01
a
14:01
financial
14:01
and
14:01
critical
14:02
disappointment,
14:02
and
14:03
the
14:03
planned
14:03
sequel
14:04
instead
14:04
became
14:05
the
14:05
reboot
14:05
Punisher
14:06
Warzone,
14:06
with
14:07
Ray
14:07
Stevenson
14:08
replacing
14:08
Thomas
14:09
Jane.
14:09
But
14:10
they
14:10
had
14:10
high
14:10
hopes
14:11
for
14:11
Black
14:11
Widow,
14:12
which
14:12
would
14:12
require
14:13
less
14:13
flashy
14:13
special
14:14
effects
14:14
than
14:14
most
14:15
comic
14:15
book
14:15
adaptations,
14:16
and
14:16
could
14:17
remain
14:17
grounded
14:18
whilst
14:18
also
14:19
capitalizing
14:20
on
14:20
a
14:20
sector
14:20
of
14:21
the
14:21
market
14:21
that
14:21
was
14:21
mostly
14:22
untouched
14:23
at
14:23
the
14:23
time.
14:24
Women.
14:26
In
14:26
April
14:26
2004,
14:27
David
14:27
Hayter
14:28
was
14:28
announced
14:28
as
14:29
the
14:29
writer
14:29
and
14:29
director
14:30
of
14:30
a
14:30
Black
14:30
Widow
14:31
movie
14:31
with
14:32
Marvel
14:32
Studios
14:33
Avi
14:33
Arad
14:34
producing.
14:35
Hayter
14:35
had
14:35
previously
14:36
worked
14:36
on
14:36
the
14:37
X
14:37
Men
14:37
films
14:37
and
14:37
was
14:38
known
14:38
for
14:38
his
14:38
work
14:39
on
14:39
video
14:39
game
14:39
adaptations.
14:41
And
14:41
most
14:41
importantly,
14:42
he
14:42
was
14:42
a
14:42
huge
14:43
fan
14:43
of
14:43
the
14:43
character,
14:44
even
14:44
naming
14:45
his
14:45
baby
14:46
daughter
14:46
born
14:46
in
14:47
2004,
14:48
Black
14:48
Widow,
14:49
a
14:50
kid.
14:50
She's
14:50
actually
14:50
named
14:51
Natasha,
14:51
but
14:52
she's
14:52
named
14:52
Natasha
14:53
after
14:53
the
14:54
character.
14:55
Between
14:55
2003
14:56
and
14:56
2006,
14:57
when
14:58
he
14:58
finished
14:58
his
14:58
final
14:58
draft,
14:59
several
15:00
female
15:00
led
15:00
action
15:01
movies
15:01
came
15:02
out,
15:02
including
15:02
Underworld,
15:03
Kill
15:04
Bill,
15:04
and
15:05
most
15:05
importantly,
15:06
Catwoman,
15:07
Elektra
15:07
and
15:08
Aeon
15:08
Flux.
15:09
Catwoman
15:10
and
15:10
Elektra
15:10
were
15:11
both
15:11
comic
15:11
book
15:11
movies,
15:12
and
15:12
I'm
15:12
going
15:12
to
15:12
come
15:12
back
15:13
to
15:13
both
15:13
of
15:13
them
15:13
later.
15:14
But
15:14
Aeon
15:14
Flux
15:15
was
15:15
the
15:15
main
15:16
culprit
15:16
in
15:16
2005
15:18
for
15:18
sinking
15:18
Lionsgate's
15:19
Black
15:20
Widow
15:20
movie.
15:21
Fearing
15:21
a
15:22
quote
15:22
unquote
15:23
action
15:23
chick
15:24
bomb,
15:24
Lionsgate
15:25
dropped
15:26
Black
15:26
Widow
15:26
in
15:26
2006,
15:28
which
15:28
was
15:28
going
15:28
to
15:28
be
15:29
a
15:29
contemporary
15:29
realistic
15:30
espionage
15:31
adventure
15:32
set
15:32
in
15:32
Kazakhstan.
15:34
Later,
15:34
Marvel
15:34
and
15:35
Hayter
15:35
did
15:35
attempt
15:35
to
15:36
sell
15:36
it
15:36
to
15:36
other
15:36
studios,
15:37
but
15:37
Hayter
15:38
felt
15:38
no
15:38
one
15:38
was
15:39
taking
15:39
the
15:39
character
15:40
seriously.
15:41
Hayter
15:41
wouldn't
15:42
have
15:42
to
15:42
wait
15:42
very
15:42
long
15:42
to
15:43
see
15:43
the
15:43
character
15:44
in
15:44
live
15:44
action,
15:45
despite
15:45
his
15:46
lack
15:46
of
15:46
involvement.
15:48
And
15:48
then
15:48
Iron
15:49
man,
15:49
that's
15:50
definitely
15:50
coming
15:50
to
15:50
a
15:50
future
15:51
episode.
15:51
But
15:52
Iron
15:52
Man
15:52
2
15:52
went
15:53
into
15:53
development
15:53
straight
15:54
after
15:54
the
15:54
success
15:55
of
15:55
iron
15:55
man
15:55
in
15:56
2008,
15:57
and
15:57
lo
15:57
and
15:57
behold,
15:58
Black
15:58
Widow
15:59
was
15:59
included
16:00
as
16:00
part
16:00
of
16:00
the
16:00
cast.
16:01
And
16:01
in
16:01
2009
16:02
Marvel
16:03
started
16:03
talks
16:03
with
16:04
Emily
16:04
Blunt,
16:05
Jon
16:05
Favreau's
16:06
first
16:06
choice
16:06
to
16:06
play
16:07
the
16:07
character.
16:07
However,
16:08
she
16:08
was
16:08
unable
16:08
to
16:09
take
16:09
it
16:09
due
16:09
to
16:09
commitments
16:10
to
16:10
her
16:10
role
16:10
in
16:11
Gulliver's
16:11
Travels.
16:12
Meanwhile,
16:13
Scarlett
16:13
Johansson
16:14
had
16:14
met
16:14
with
16:14
Jon
16:14
Favreau
16:15
and
16:15
Kevin
16:15
Feige
16:16
a
16:16
year
16:16
before.
16:17
Pre
16:17
production
16:17
even
16:18
started
16:18
on
16:18
Iron
16:19
Man
16:19
2
16:19
about
16:19
roles
16:20
in
16:20
the
16:20
forthcoming
16:21
MCU,
16:21
one
16:22
of
16:22
them
16:22
being
16:22
Black
16:23
Widow,
16:24
another
16:24
being
16:24
the
16:25
Scarlet
16:25
Witch.
16:26
So
16:26
when
16:27
Favreau
16:27
called
16:27
Johansson
16:28
in
16:28
for
16:28
a
16:28
meeting,
16:28
she
16:29
dyed
16:29
her
16:29
hair
16:30
red
16:30
to
16:30
match
16:31
Black
16:31
Widow
16:31
in
16:31
the
16:32
comics,
16:32
mostly
16:33
to
16:33
experiment
16:33
with
16:34
the
16:34
colour,
16:34
but
16:35
also
16:35
hopeful
16:35
that
16:35
Favreau
16:36
would
16:36
appreciate
16:37
the
16:37
sentiment.
16:38
It
16:38
turns
16:38
out
16:38
that
16:39
he
16:39
did,
16:39
and
16:39
Johansson
16:40
felt
16:40
the
16:40
Black
16:40
Widow
16:41
character
16:41
resonated
16:42
with
16:42
her
16:42
as
16:43
a
16:43
superhero
16:44
but
16:44
also
16:44
as
16:44
a
16:45
human
16:45
being.
16:46
She
16:46
admitted
16:46
to
16:46
freaking
16:47
out
16:47
when
16:47
she
16:47
saw
16:47
the
16:47
character's
16:48
iconic
16:48
black
16:49
catsuit
16:50
and
16:50
trained
16:50
hard
16:50
with
16:51
trainers
16:51
on
16:51
stunts
16:52
and
16:52
strength
16:52
training
16:53
and
16:53
retrospectively
16:54
in
16:54
publicity
16:55
for
16:55
the
16:55
eventual
16:56
Black
16:56
Widow
16:56
movie.
16:57
She'd
16:57
also
16:57
comment
16:58
on
16:58
the
16:58
sexualized
16:59
way
16:59
Black
16:59
Widow
17:00
was
17:00
introduced
17:00
into
17:00
the
17:01
MCU
17:01
and
17:02
how
17:02
they
17:02
attempted
17:03
to
17:03
evolve
17:03
her
17:03
beyond
17:04
that.
17:05
In
17:05
September
17:05
2010,
17:06
Marvel
17:06
Studios
17:07
President
17:07
Kevin
17:07
Feige
17:08
said
17:09
that
17:09
discussions
17:09
with
17:09
Johansson
17:10
had
17:10
already
17:10
taken
17:11
place
17:11
regarding
17:12
a
17:12
Black
17:13
Widow
17:13
standalone
17:14
film,
17:14
but
17:15
Marvel's
17:15
focus
17:15
was
17:16
on
17:16
the
17:16
crossover
17:16
film
17:17
The
17:17
Avengers
17:18
in
17:18
2012.
17:19
Throughout
17:19
the
17:20
2000
17:20
and
17:20
tens,
17:20
Johansson
17:21
appeared
17:21
in
17:21
Iron
17:22
Man
17:22
2,
17:22
The
17:22
Avengers,
17:23
Captain
17:24
the
17:24
Winter
17:25
Soldier,
17:26
Age
17:26
of
17:26
Ultron,
17:27
Captain
17:28
Civil
17:28
War,
17:29
Infinity
17:29
War
17:30
and
17:31
Endgame.
17:32
And
17:32
it's
17:32
safe
17:32
to
17:32
say
17:32
that
17:33
no
17:33
one
17:33
at
17:33
Marvel
17:33
Studios
17:34
anticipated
17:35
how
17:35
popular
17:36
Black
17:36
Widow
17:37
would
17:37
become
17:37
with
17:37
audiences
17:38
after
17:39
the
17:39
release
17:39
of
17:39
Age
17:39
of
17:40
Ultron.
17:40
Johansson
17:41
revealed
17:41
that
17:41
the
17:41
number
17:42
of
17:42
films
17:42
on
17:42
her
17:42
contract
17:43
had
17:43
been
17:43
adjusted
17:44
since
17:44
she
17:45
first
17:45
signed
17:45
to
17:46
match
17:46
the
17:47
demand
17:47
of
17:47
the
17:47
character.
17:49
By
17:49
the
17:49
time
17:49
2014
17:50
rolled
17:50
around,
17:51
a
17:51
treatment
17:51
had
17:52
been
17:52
written
17:52
for
17:52
a
17:52
Black
17:53
Widow
17:53
movie
17:54
by
17:54
Guardians
17:54
of
17:55
the
17:55
Galaxy
17:55
writer
17:55
Nicole
17:56
Perlman.
17:57
David
17:57
Hayter
17:58
expressed
17:58
a
17:58
wish
17:59
to
17:59
revive
17:59
the
17:59
project
18:00
he
18:00
was
18:00
so
18:00
passionate
18:01
about
18:01
with
18:01
Marvel,
18:02
and
18:02
Kevin
18:02
Feige
18:03
was
18:03
alluding
18:04
to
18:04
the
18:04
fact
18:04
that
18:04
the
18:04
studio
18:05
would
18:05
love
18:05
to
18:05
see
18:06
the
18:06
character
18:06
explored
18:07
further.
18:08
But
18:08
back
18:09
to
18:09
Catwoman
18:09
and
18:10
Elektra
18:11
and
18:11
a
18:11
leaked
18:11
2014
18:12
email
18:13
purportedly
18:13
from
18:14
Marvel
18:14
Entertainment
18:15
CEO
18:15
Ike
18:15
Perlmutter
18:16
to
18:17
Michael
18:17
Linton,
18:18
Sony's
18:18
CEO,
18:19
following
18:20
up
18:20
on
18:20
a
18:20
phone
18:20
call
18:21
between
18:21
the
18:21
pair.
18:22
Its
18:22
subject
18:22
was
18:23
female
18:23
movies
18:24
and
18:24
it's
18:25
dated
18:25
7
18:26
August
18:27
2014
18:28
at
18:28
5:32am
18:30
and
18:31
it
18:31
reads
18:32
quote
18:32
Michael,
18:33
as
18:34
we
18:34
discussed
18:34
on
18:34
the
18:34
phone.
18:35
Below
18:35
are
18:36
just
18:36
a
18:36
few
18:36
examples.
18:37
There
18:37
are
18:38
more.
18:38
Thanks
18:39
Ike.
18:40
1.
18:41
Elektra
18:41
Marvel
18:42
Very
18:43
bad
18:43
idea
18:43
and
18:43
the
18:44
end
18:44
result
18:44
was
18:44
very,
18:45
very
18:45
bad.
18:46
2.
18:46
Catwoman
18:48
WBDC
18:49
Catwoman
18:50
was
18:50
one
18:50
of
18:51
the
18:51
most
18:51
important
18:51
female
18:52
characters
18:52
within
18:52
the
18:53
Batman
18:53
franchise.
18:54
This
18:54
film
18:54
was
18:55
a
18:55
disaster.
18:56
3.
18:57
Supergirl
18:58
DC
18:59
Supergirl
18:59
was
19:00
one
19:00
of
19:00
the
19:00
most
19:00
important
19:00
female
19:01
superhero
19:02
in
19:02
Superman
19:03
franchise.
19:04
This
19:04
movie
19:04
came
19:05
out
19:05
in
19:05
1984
19:06
and
19:06
did
19:07
$14
19:07
million
19:08
total
19:08
domestic
19:09
with
19:09
opening
19:10
weekend
19:10
of
19:11
$5.5
19:11
million.
19:12
Again,
19:13
another
19:13
disaster.
19:14
Best
19:15
Ike
19:16
unquote.
19:17
Kevin
19:18
Feige
19:18
all
19:18
but
19:19
directly
19:19
addressed
19:20
Perlmutter's
19:20
emails
19:21
in
19:21
a
19:21
2014
19:22
interview
19:22
with
19:22
Comic
19:23
Book
19:23
Resources
19:24
saying
19:24
quote,
19:25
I
19:25
very
19:25
much
19:25
believe
19:26
that
19:26
it's
19:26
unfair
19:27
to
19:27
say
19:27
people
19:27
don't
19:28
want
19:28
to
19:28
see
19:28
movies
19:28
with
19:29
female
19:29
heroes,
19:30
then
19:30
missed
19:31
five
19:31
movies
19:31
that
19:31
were
19:32
not
19:32
very
19:32
good
19:33
and
19:33
they
19:33
don't
19:33
mention
19:34
Hunger
19:34
Games,
19:35
Frozen,
19:35
Divergent,
19:36
you
19:37
can
19:37
go
19:37
back
19:37
to
19:37
Kill
19:38
Bill
19:38
or
19:38
Aliens.
19:39
These
19:39
are
19:40
all
19:40
female
19:40
led
19:40
movies.
19:41
It
19:41
can
19:42
certainly
19:42
be
19:42
done.
19:44
Ike
19:44
Perlmutter
19:45
believed
19:46
female
19:46
superheroes
19:47
didn't
19:47
sell
19:48
and
19:48
he
19:48
had
19:48
considerable
19:49
power.
19:49
As
19:50
then
19:50
CEO
19:51
of
19:51
Marvel
19:51
Entertainment,
19:52
Perlmutter
19:53
served
19:53
as
19:53
the
19:54
head
19:54
of
19:54
Marvel
19:54
through
19:55
its
19:55
acquisition
19:55
by
19:55
Disney
19:56
in
19:56
2009
19:57
and
19:58
oversaw
19:58
development
19:59
on
19:59
every
19:59
film
20:00
from
20:00
Iron
20:00
man
20:01
to
20:01
Age
20:01
of
20:02
Ultron.
20:03
In
20:03
2015,
20:03
Disney
20:04
reorganized
20:05
leadership
20:05
so
20:05
studio
20:06
president
20:06
Kevin
20:07
Feige
20:07
would
20:08
report
20:08
directly
20:09
to
20:09
the
20:09
Walt
20:09
Disney
20:09
Studios
20:10
chairperson
20:11
and
20:11
not
20:11
Perlmutter.
20:12
The
20:13
restructuring
20:13
was
20:14
reportedly
20:14
due
20:14
to
20:15
Feige's
20:15
frustration
20:16
of
20:16
working
20:16
with
20:17
Perlmutter
20:18
and
20:18
his
20:18
outdated
20:19
opinions
20:19
about
20:19
casting
20:20
budgets
20:21
and
20:21
merchandising,
20:22
as
20:22
well
20:22
as
20:23
alleged
20:23
comments
20:23
and
20:24
actions
20:24
by
20:24
Perlmutter
20:25
that
20:25
were
20:26
sexist
20:26
and
20:26
racist
20:27
in
20:27
nature.
20:28
It's
20:28
no
20:28
surprise
20:29
that
20:29
Perlmutter
20:30
was
20:30
a
20:30
supporter
20:31
of
20:31
the
20:31
whatsit
20:32
Dictator
20:33
in
20:33
Chief.
20:34
I
20:34
think
20:34
you
20:34
know
20:35
who
20:35
I'm
20:35
talking
20:35
about.
20:36
Perlmutter's
20:37
sidelining
20:37
coincided
20:38
with
20:38
a
20:38
notable
20:39
increase
20:39
in
20:39
Marvel
20:40
Studios
20:40
focus
20:41
on
20:41
diversity
20:42
and
20:42
inclusiveness.
20:44
This
20:44
would
20:44
lead
20:44
to
20:44
the
20:45
studio
20:45
making
20:45
groundbreaking
20:46
films
20:46
like
20:47
Black
20:47
Panther
20:47
in
20:48
2018,
20:49
which
20:49
would
20:49
never
20:49
have
20:50
been
20:50
made
20:50
under
20:50
Perlmutter
20:51
and
20:51
Captain
20:52
Marvel,
20:52
the
20:53
studio's
20:53
first
20:53
female
20:54
led
20:54
movie
20:54
in
20:54
2019,
20:56
which
20:56
are
20:56
two
20:56
of
20:56
the
20:56
highest
20:57
grossing
20:57
movies
20:57
in
20:58
the
20:58
entire
20:58
franchise
20:59
purely
21:00
because
21:00
finally
21:01
we
21:01
got
21:01
a
21:01
black
21:02
superhero
21:02
and
21:03
a
21:03
female
21:03
superhero
21:04
from
21:05
the
21:05
biggest
21:05
studio
21:06
in
21:06
the
21:06
world.
21:07
Throughout
21:07
Perlmutter's
21:08
leadership,
21:09
Marvel
21:09
kept
21:09
Natasha
21:10
Romanoff
21:11
out
21:11
of
21:11
Avengers
21:12
merchandise.
21:13
Her
21:13
merchandise
21:14
was
21:14
a
21:14
fraction
21:14
of
21:15
what
21:15
existed
21:15
for
21:15
her
21:16
male
21:16
counterparts.
21:17
She
21:17
had
21:18
none.
21:18
For
21:18
her
21:18
debut
21:19
In
21:19
Iron
21:19
Man
21:19
2,
21:20
she
21:20
did
21:20
get
21:21
an
21:21
action
21:21
figure
21:21
for
21:22
the
21:22
Avengers,
21:23
but
21:23
of
21:23
the
21:23
88
21:24
official
21:24
age
21:24
of
21:25
Ultron
21:25
products,
21:26
she
21:26
was
21:26
only
21:27
available
21:27
on
21:27
6.
21:29
She
21:29
was
21:29
infamously
21:30
replaced
21:30
from
21:30
one
21:31
of
21:31
her
21:31
most
21:31
badass
21:32
scenes
21:32
in
21:32
Age
21:32
of
21:32
Ultron,
21:33
riding
21:34
her
21:34
motorcycle
21:34
through
21:35
South
21:35
Korea
21:36
on
21:36
the
21:36
toy
21:37
version
21:37
of
21:37
the
21:37
bike
21:38
with
21:38
Captain
21:39
America.
21:39
And
21:40
this
21:40
isn't
21:40
just
21:40
a
21:40
Black
21:41
Widow
21:41
thing,
21:41
because
21:42
Gamora
21:43
was
21:43
missing
21:43
from
21:43
Guardians
21:44
Toys
21:44
too.
21:45
A
21:45
Trump
21:46
supporter
21:46
being
21:46
a
21:47
misogynist?
21:48
Surely
21:48
not.
21:49
In
21:50
2019,
21:50
Perlmutter
21:51
lost
21:51
further
21:51
power
21:52
when
21:52
Feige
21:52
was
21:53
promoted
21:53
to
21:53
CCO
21:54
of
21:54
Marvel
21:54
Studios,
21:55
putting
21:56
him
21:56
in
21:56
control
21:57
of
21:57
Marvel
21:57
TV
21:58
and
21:58
Media,
21:58
which
21:59
Perlmutter
22:00
formally
22:00
oversaw.
22:01
Perlmutter
22:02
was
22:02
eventually
22:02
fired
22:03
from
22:03
the
22:03
company
22:04
in
22:04
2023,
22:06
but
22:06
it's
22:06
not
22:06
really
22:07
just
22:07
Ike
22:07
Perlmutter
22:08
to
22:08
blame,
22:09
because
22:09
the
22:09
vision
22:09
of
22:09
the
22:10
MCU
22:10
also
22:11
didn't
22:11
seem
22:11
to
22:11
include
22:12
anything
22:13
other
22:13
than
22:13
Natasha
22:14
being
22:14
a
22:14
supporting
22:15
part
22:15
to
22:15
other
22:15
people's
22:16
stories,
22:17
such
22:17
as
22:17
undoubtedly
22:18
her
22:18
best
22:18
role
22:19
in
22:19
Captain
22:19
America,
22:20
the
22:20
Winter
22:20
Soldier.
22:21
Natasha
22:22
was
22:22
used
22:22
to
22:22
bring
22:22
other
22:23
characters
22:23
into
22:23
stories
22:24
like
22:24
meeting
22:25
Bruce
22:25
Banner
22:25
in
22:26
the
22:26
Avengers,
22:26
which
22:26
is
22:27
also
22:27
standout,
22:28
and
22:28
meeting
22:28
t'
22:28
Challa
22:29
in
22:29
Captain
22:30
Civil
22:30
War.
22:31
With
22:31
the
22:31
Infinity
22:32
Saga
22:32
nearing
22:33
its
22:33
end,
22:33
it
22:34
made
22:34
more
22:34
sense
22:35
to
22:35
go
22:35
to
22:35
Wakanda
22:36
than
22:37
it
22:37
did
22:37
to
22:37
explore
22:38
Natasha.
22:39
And
22:39
then
22:39
we
22:39
got
22:39
Captain
22:40
Marvel
22:40
as
22:41
the
22:41
first
22:41
female
22:41
led
22:42
movie
22:42
in
22:42
the
22:42
mcu
22:43
again
22:44
because
22:44
it
22:44
served
22:44
the
22:45
greater
22:45
purpose
22:45
of
22:45
the
22:46
MCU
22:46
to
22:47
introduce
22:47
Carol
22:48
at
22:48
that
22:48
time
22:49
and
22:49
I
22:49
love
22:49
that
22:49
movie
22:50
so
22:50
I
22:50
have
22:50
no
22:50
complaints.
22:51
But
22:51
fans
22:52
were
22:52
naturally
22:52
unhappy
22:53
that
22:53
a
22:53
fan
22:54
favorite
22:54
was
22:54
being
22:54
sidelined,
22:55
and
22:56
despite
22:56
both
22:56
Feige
22:57
and
22:57
Johansson
22:58
suggesting
22:58
a
22:59
movie
22:59
for
22:59
Black
22:59
Widow
23:00
was
23:00
coming
23:00
throughout
23:01
the
23:01
2010s
23:02
when
23:02
they
23:02
were
23:02
asked,
23:03
it
23:03
wasn't
23:03
until
23:04
October
23:04
2017
23:05
that
23:06
the
23:06
ball
23:06
really
23:06
started
23:07
rolling
23:07
when
23:08
Marvel
23:08
began
23:08
meeting
23:09
with
23:09
potential
23:10
writers,
23:11
including
23:11
Jessica
23:12
Gough,
23:12
who
23:12
would
23:12
go
23:13
on
23:13
to
23:13
create
23:13
and
23:13
write
23:14
the
23:14
Disney
23:14
plus
23:15
series
23:15
she
23:15
Hulk
23:16
Attorney
23:16
at
23:16
Law.
23:17
Her
23:17
pitch
23:18
for
23:18
a
23:18
Black
23:18
Widow
23:18
movie
23:19
heavily
23:19
featured
23:20
she
23:20
Hulk
23:21
as
23:21
a
23:21
supporting
23:21
character.
23:22
Feige
23:23
also
23:23
met
23:24
with
23:24
Jack
23:24
Schaefer
23:24
and
23:25
she
23:25
was
23:25
hired
23:25
in
23:26
December
23:26
2017.
23:29
One
23:29
other
23:29
thing
23:29
that
23:30
the
23:30
MCU
23:30
hadn't
23:31
been
23:31
the
23:31
best
23:31
with,
23:31
apart
23:32
from
23:32
highlighting
23:33
female
23:33
stars,
23:34
was
23:34
hiring
23:35
female
23:35
directors
23:36
like
23:36
ever.
23:37
At
23:37
that
23:37
point,
23:38
Anna
23:38
Bowden
23:39
had
23:39
been
23:39
hired
23:39
to
23:40
be
23:40
a
23:40
co
23:40
director
23:40
for
23:41
Captain
23:41
Marvel,
23:42
but
23:42
for
23:42
Black
23:42
Widow,
23:43
Marvel
23:43
focused
23:44
on
23:44
finding
23:44
a
23:44
sole
23:45
female
23:45
director
23:46
and
23:46
met
23:46
with
23:47
over
23:47
65,
23:48
including
23:48
Chloe
23:49
Zhao,
23:49
who
23:50
would
23:50
go
23:50
on
23:50
to
23:50
direct
23:50
Eternals,
23:51
Amma
23:52
Asante,
23:52
Coralie
23:53
Fargate,
23:54
Kimberly
23:54
Pierce,
23:55
Maggie
23:55
Betts,
23:56
Lynn
23:56
Shelton
23:57
and
23:57
Lucretia
23:58
Martell.
23:58
Scarlett
23:59
Johansson
24:00
had
24:00
approached
24:00
Kate
24:01
Shortland
24:01
personally
24:02
about
24:02
potentially
24:03
directing
24:03
the
24:03
movie
24:04
after
24:04
seeing
24:05
her
24:05
film.
24:05
Law.
24:06
Shortland
24:07
was
24:07
hired
24:07
in
24:07
July
24:08
2018.
24:09
Johansson
24:10
was
24:10
also
24:10
executively
24:11
producing
24:11
Black
24:12
Widow,
24:12
the
24:13
first
24:13
time
24:13
any
24:13
Avenger
24:14
had
24:14
executively
24:15
produced
24:16
their
24:16
own
24:16
solo
24:17
film
24:17
in
24:17
the
24:17
mcu.
24:18
Chris
24:19
Hemsworth
24:20
executively
24:20
produced
24:21
Love
24:22
and
24:22
Thunder
24:22
a
24:23
year
24:23
later
24:23
in
24:24
2022.
24:25
Ned
24:26
Benson
24:26
was
24:26
hired
24:27
in
24:27
February
24:27
2019
24:28
to
24:28
rewrite
24:29
the
24:29
script
24:29
and
24:30
Eric
24:30
Pearson
24:30
was
24:31
hired
24:31
during
24:31
pre
24:32
production
24:32
to
24:32
rewrite
24:33
it
24:33
again.
24:34
Pearson
24:34
received
24:35
the
24:35
sole
24:35
screenplay
24:36
credit,
24:36
with
24:36
Benson
24:37
and
24:37
Schaefer
24:37
receiving
24:38
story
24:38
credits.
24:39
The
24:40
movie
24:40
was
24:40
due
24:40
to
24:40
be
24:41
set
24:41
after
24:41
civil
24:42
war
24:42
and
24:42
find
24:42
Natasha
24:43
alone
24:44
with
24:44
the
24:44
other
24:44
Avengers
24:45
scattered
24:45
or
24:46
incarcerated
24:47
and
24:47
no
24:47
longer
24:48
tied
24:48
to
24:48
The
24:48
Avengers
24:49
or
24:49
S.H.I.E.L.D.
24:50
the
24:50
main
24:50
source
24:51
of
24:51
inspiration
24:52
was
24:52
the
24:52
TV
24:52
show
24:53
the
24:53
Americans,
24:54
set
24:54
during
24:54
the
24:55
Cold
24:55
War
24:56
about
24:56
an
24:56
undercover
24:57
Russian
24:57
spy
24:57
family
24:58
living
24:58
in
24:58
a
24:59
Washington
24:59
D.C.
24:59
suburb.
25:00
This
25:01
setup
25:01
would
25:01
introduce
25:02
Natasha
25:02
as
25:02
a
25:02
child
25:03
living
25:03
in
25:04
the
25:04
Midwestern
25:04
United
25:05
States
25:05
with
25:06
her
25:06
quote
25:06
unquote
25:07
family,
25:07
her
25:08
mother,
25:08
father
25:08
and
25:09
her
25:09
younger
25:09
sister
25:10
Yelena
25:11
posing
25:11
as
25:11
a
25:12
traditional
25:12
all
25:13
American
25:13
family
25:14
until
25:14
they
25:15
steal
25:15
SHIELD
25:15
intel
25:16
and
25:16
have
25:16
to
25:17
suddenly
25:17
flee
25:17
to
25:17
Cuba
25:18
with
25:18
the
25:18
young
25:19
girls
25:19
separated
25:20
and
25:20
forced
25:20
to
25:21
the
25:21
Red
25:21
Room
25:21
for
25:21
training
25:22
as
25:22
widows,
25:23
training
25:23
that
25:24
most
25:24
little
25:24
girls
25:24
fail
25:25
at
25:25
and
25:25
are
25:25
subsequently
25:26
killed.
25:27
It
25:27
is
25:27
a
25:27
dark
25:28
opening
25:28
to
25:28
the
25:29
movie,
25:29
which
25:29
isn't
25:29
that
25:30
surprising
25:30
when
25:31
you
25:31
have
25:31
Natasha's
25:32
inherent
25:32
darkness
25:33
and
25:33
her
25:34
shame
25:34
at
25:34
her
25:34
past.
25:35
Marvel
25:36
and
25:36
Pierson
25:37
had
25:37
heated
25:37
conversations
25:38
about
25:38
how
25:39
dark
25:39
Natasha's
25:40
story
25:40
could
25:41
be,
25:41
but
25:41
Pearson
25:42
successfully
25:42
argued
25:43
the
25:43
case
25:43
to
25:43
show
25:44
Dreykov's
25:45
daughter,
25:45
first
25:46
mentioned
25:46
by
25:46
Loki
25:47
in
25:47
the
25:47
Avengers
25:48
as
25:48
a
25:48
primary
25:48
source
25:49
of
25:49
pain
25:49
and
25:49
regret
25:50
for
25:50
Natasha,
25:51
and
25:51
while
25:51
also
25:51
fleshing
25:52
out
25:52
the
25:52
Budapest
25:53
story
25:53
that
25:54
both
25:54
Clint
25:54
Barton
25:54
and
25:55
Natasha
25:55
had
25:56
frequently
25:56
mentioned.
25:57
For
25:58
Natasha's
25:58
sister,
25:59
it
25:59
made
25:59
sense
26:00
for
26:00
this
26:00
to
26:00
be
26:01
Yelena
26:01
Belova,
26:02
a
26:02
longtime
26:03
associate
26:03
of
26:03
Black
26:04
Widow
26:04
in
26:04
the
26:04
comics,
26:05
with
26:05
a
26:05
complex
26:06
antagonistic
26:07
relationship
26:08
that
26:08
softened
26:08
as
26:09
the
26:09
characters
26:09
developed
26:10
a
26:10
grudging
26:10
respect
26:11
for
26:11
each
26:11
other
26:12
and
26:12
later
26:12
stories
26:13
explored
26:14
their
26:14
shared
26:14
trauma
26:15
as
26:15
survivors
26:15
of
26:16
the
26:16
Red
26:16
Room.
26:17
Yelena's
26:18
character
26:18
was
26:18
used
26:18
to
26:18
explore
26:19
themes
26:19
around
26:20
what
26:20
Natasha
26:21
might
26:21
have
26:21
become
26:22
if
26:22
she
26:22
hadn't
26:22
defected.
26:23
She
26:24
represented
26:24
both
26:24
Natasha's
26:25
past
26:26
and
26:26
an
26:26
alternate
26:27
path,
26:27
someone
26:28
who
26:28
initially
26:28
embraced
26:29
the
26:29
Red
26:29
Room's
26:30
ideology
26:30
rather
26:31
than
26:31
rejecting
26:32
it.
26:32
But
26:32
fundamentally,
26:33
both
26:33
Natasha
26:34
and
26:34
Yelena
26:35
lost
26:35
their
26:35
innocence,
26:36
with
26:36
Yelena
26:37
suffering
26:37
more
26:37
for
26:38
it
26:38
for
26:38
being
26:39
younger
26:39
when
26:39
she
26:39
was
26:40
taken
26:40
from
26:40
the
26:40
only
26:41
family
26:41
she'd
26:41
ever
26:42
known.
26:43
Now,
26:43
if
26:43
you
26:43
think
26:44
creating
26:44
a
26:44
comic
26:45
book
26:45
character
26:45
makes
26:46
you
26:46
super
26:46
wealthy
26:47
once
26:47
they
26:47
star
26:47
in
26:47
a
26:48
big
26:48
Marvel
26:48
movie,
26:49
you'd
26:49
be
26:50
wrong.
26:50
To
26:51
use
26:51
the
26:51
character
26:52
of
26:52
Yelena,
26:53
Marvel
26:53
had
26:53
to
26:53
pay
26:54
her
26:54
creators,
26:55
writer
26:55
Devin
26:56
Grayson
26:56
and
26:57
artist
26:57
JG
26:57
Jones,
26:58
who
26:58
had
26:59
both
26:59
signed
26:59
special
27:00
character
27:00
agreement
27:01
deals
27:01
$25,000
27:03
for
27:03
Yelena's
27:04
use
27:04
in
27:04
a
27:04
theatrical
27:05
film
27:05
appearance.
27:06
However,
27:06
buried
27:07
within
27:07
the
27:07
document's
27:08
small
27:08
print
27:09
was
27:09
language
27:10
that
27:10
granted
27:10
Marvel
27:11
broad
27:11
discretion
27:12
to
27:12
dramatically
27:13
lower
27:13
payments,
27:14
leading
27:15
to
27:15
Marvel
27:15
only
27:16
paying
27:16
them
27:16
$5,000.
27:18
It
27:18
was
27:18
only
27:19
after
27:19
Grayson
27:20
went
27:20
to
27:20
the
27:20
press
27:20
that
27:21
Marvel
27:21
agreed
27:22
to
27:22
pay
27:22
her
27:22
the
27:22
remaining
27:23
$7,500
27:25
it
27:25
owed
27:25
her.
27:26
And
27:26
if
27:26
you
27:26
don't
27:27
sign
27:27
an
27:27
agreement,
27:28
you
27:28
don't
27:28
get
27:28
paid
27:29
at
27:29
all.
27:30
It's
27:30
why
27:30
many
27:30
artists
27:31
and
27:31
writers
27:32
go
27:32
down
27:32
the
27:33
indie
27:33
route,
27:33
because
27:34
they
27:34
actually
27:34
get
27:35
better
27:35
returns
27:36
and
27:36
more
27:36
creative
27:37
control
27:37
that
27:37
way
27:38
than
27:38
they
27:38
do
27:38
with
27:39
big
27:39
companies
27:39
like
27:40
Marvel
27:40
and
27:40
dc.
27:42
Marvel
27:42
offered
27:43
the
27:43
role
27:43
of
27:43
Yelena
27:44
to
27:44
Saoirse
27:44
Ronan,
27:45
who
27:45
passed,
27:46
but
27:46
then
27:46
they
27:46
saw
27:47
Fighting
27:47
with
27:47
My
27:48
Family,
27:48
which
27:48
is
27:48
episode
27:49
248
27:50
of
27:50
this
27:50
podcast,
27:51
and
27:51
Florence
27:52
Pugh
27:52
was
27:52
receiving
27:53
rave
27:53
reviews.
27:54
And
27:54
isn't
27:54
that
27:55
just
27:55
an
27:55
apt
27:55
title
27:55
for
27:56
the
27:56
familial
27:56
relationships
27:57
in
27:57
this
27:57
movie
27:57
too?
27:58
Pugh
27:59
was
27:59
cast
27:59
in
28:00
April
28:00
2019
28:01
alongside
28:01
David
28:02
Harbour,
28:03
Rachel
28:03
Weiss
28:03
and
28:04
O.T.
28:04
fagbenley.
28:05
Also
28:06
cast
28:06
in
28:06
the
28:06
movie
28:07
was
28:07
the
28:07
then
28:08
12
28:08
year
28:08
old
28:08
Eva
28:09
Anderson,
28:10
daughter
28:10
of
28:11
Milla
28:11
Jovovich
28:12
and
28:12
director
28:12
Paul
28:13
W.S.
28:14
anderson
28:14
as
28:15
the
28:15
young
28:15
Natasha.
28:16
Anderson
28:17
is
28:17
a
28:17
fluent
28:18
Russian
28:18
speaker,
28:18
which
28:19
would
28:19
come
28:19
in
28:19
handy
28:20
with
28:20
the
28:20
scenes
28:20
filmed
28:21
in
28:21
Russian.
28:22
Taskmaster
28:23
was
28:23
included
28:23
in
28:24
early
28:24
versions
28:24
of
28:24
the
28:25
script
28:25
as
28:25
a
28:25
villain,
28:26
the
28:26
Tony
28:26
Masters
28:27
version
28:27
from
28:27
the
28:28
comic,
28:28
but
28:28
this
28:29
was
28:29
changed
28:29
to
28:29
be
28:30
Antonia
28:30
Drakov
28:31
to
28:31
fit
28:32
the
28:32
narrative
28:32
that
28:32
Dreykov
28:33
subdues
28:33
and
28:34
controls
28:34
all
28:35
women,
28:35
including
28:36
his
28:36
daughter,
28:37
long
28:37
thought
28:37
dead
28:38
by
28:38
Natasha.
28:39
Bond
28:39
girl
28:39
Olga
28:40
Kurylenko
28:41
was
28:41
cast
28:41
as
28:42
Antonia
28:42
Dreykov
28:43
with
28:43
her
28:43
father
28:44
Dreykov,
28:45
played
28:45
by
28:45
Ray
28:45
Winston.
28:47
Winston
28:47
would
28:48
call
28:48
the
28:48
experience
28:49
soul
28:49
destroying
28:50
and
28:50
after
28:50
some
28:50
negative
28:51
feedback
28:51
on
28:51
his
28:52
performance,
28:52
he
28:53
actually
28:53
wanted
28:53
to
28:54
leave
28:54
the
28:54
production
28:54
and
28:55
have
28:55
his
28:55
role
28:55
recast.
28:57
However,
28:57
contractual
28:58
obligations
28:58
meant
28:59
that
28:59
he
28:59
had
28:59
to
28:59
stick
29:00
around
29:00
for
29:00
reshoots.
29:02
Principal
29:02
photography
29:03
started
29:03
on
29:03
28
29:04
May
29:05
2019
29:05
in
29:05
Norway,
29:06
moved
29:07
to
29:07
Pinewood
29:07
Studios
29:08
here
29:08
in
29:08
the
29:08
UK
29:09
in
29:09
June
29:09
2019,
29:10
then
29:11
on
29:11
location
29:11
in
29:12
Surrey
29:12
in
29:12
July,
29:13
before
29:13
moving
29:14
to
29:14
Georgia
29:15
in
29:15
the
29:15
US
29:15
in
29:15
September
29:16
and
29:17
then
29:17
to
29:17
Morocco
29:18
in
29:18
October.
29:20
Filming
29:20
lasted
29:20
for
29:21
87
29:21
days
29:21
and
29:22
wrapped
29:22
on
29:22
6
29:23
October
29:23
2019,
29:25
with
29:25
a
29:25
planned
29:25
release
29:26
in
29:26
2020.
29:28
Yes,
29:29
2020
29:30
strikes
29:30
again.
29:32
Anyway,
29:33
before
29:33
we
29:33
talk
29:33
about
29:34
2020,
29:35
let's
29:36
segue
29:36
into
29:36
something
29:37
a
29:37
lot
29:37
nicer
29:38
to
29:38
talk
29:38
about,
29:38
which
29:38
is
29:39
the
29:39
obligatory
29:40
Keanu
29:40
reference
29:41
of
29:41
this
29:41
episode.
29:42
And
29:42
if
29:42
you
29:42
don't
29:42
know
29:42
what
29:43
that
29:43
is,
29:43
it's
29:44
where
29:44
I
29:44
link
29:44
the
29:44
movie
29:44
that
29:44
I'm
29:45
featuring
29:45
with
29:45
Keanu
29:46
Reeves.
29:46
And
29:46
for
29:47
a
29:47
long
29:47
time
29:47
Keanu
29:48
was
29:48
fan
29:48
casted
29:49
for
29:49
the
29:49
role
29:49
of
29:49
taskmaster
29:50
in
29:50
the
29:50
MCU,
29:52
and
29:52
in
29:52
2019
29:53
Kevin
29:53
Feige
29:54
mentioned
29:54
in
29:54
an
29:55
interview
29:55
that
29:56
he'd
29:56
met
29:56
with
29:56
Reeves
29:57
with
29:57
a
29:58
view
29:58
to
29:58
discuss
29:58
a
29:58
role
29:59
in
29:59
a
29:59
Marvel
29:59
project.
30:00
So
30:01
there
30:01
was
30:01
some
30:01
speculation
30:02
among
30:02
fans
30:02
that
30:03
the
30:03
stars
30:03
had
30:03
aligned
30:04
and
30:04
Keanu
30:05
was
30:05
indeed
30:05
Taskmaster.
30:07
But
30:07
he
30:07
wasn't,
30:08
and
30:08
he's
30:08
one
30:09
of
30:09
very
30:09
few
30:09
actors
30:09
who
30:10
still
30:10
haven't
30:11
been
30:11
involved
30:11
with
30:12
the
30:12
studio
30:12
in
30:12
any
30:13
way,
30:13
shape
30:13
or
30:13
form,
30:14
but
30:15
who
30:15
knows,
30:16
maybe
30:16
soon.
30:18
Let's
30:18
move
30:18
on
30:18
to
30:18
the
30:18
music
30:19
though,
30:19
because
30:20
Alexandre
30:21
Desplat
30:21
was
30:21
originally
30:22
announced
30:22
to
30:22
be
30:23
composing
30:23
the
30:23
score,
30:24
but
30:24
he
30:24
was
30:24
replaced
30:25
in
30:25
post
30:25
production
30:26
by
30:26
Lorne
30:27
Balfe.
30:27
He
30:28
wrote
30:28
an
30:28
original
30:29
piece
30:29
in
30:29
the
30:29
style
30:29
of
30:30
Russian
30:30
folk
30:30
music
30:31
that
30:31
he
30:31
used
30:32
to
30:32
develop
30:32
the
30:33
rest
30:33
of
30:33
Natasha's
30:34
motifs.
30:35
As
30:35
COVID
30:35
lockdowns
30:36
were
30:36
affecting
30:37
post
30:37
production,
30:38
studio
30:39
recording
30:39
sessions
30:39
also
30:40
began
30:40
to
30:41
shut
30:41
down,
30:41
but
30:42
Balfe
30:42
managed
30:42
to
30:43
get
30:43
the
30:43
recordings
30:43
completed
30:44
on
30:45
time.
30:46
Black
30:46
Widow
30:47
is
30:47
also
30:47
only
30:47
one
30:48
of
30:48
few
30:48
Marvel
30:48
movies
30:49
that
30:49
has
30:49
a
30:49
pre
30:50
credits
30:50
introduction
30:51
to
30:51
set
30:52
up
30:52
the
30:52
childhoods
30:53
of
30:53
Natasha
30:53
and
30:53
Yelena,
30:54
and
30:54
it
30:55
includes
30:55
a
30:55
title
30:56
design
30:56
by
30:56
Emmy
30:56
nominated
30:57
design
30:57
lab
30:58
Perception.
30:59
The
30:59
team
30:59
compiled
31:00
old
31:00
photographs,
31:01
created
31:02
documents
31:02
and
31:02
directed
31:03
live
31:03
action
31:04
footage
31:04
to
31:05
chronicle
31:05
Natasha's
31:06
past
31:06
in
31:06
the
31:07
Widow
31:07
program.
31:08
While
31:08
they
31:08
shot
31:09
the
31:09
footage
31:09
at
31:10
8K
31:10
high
31:10
resolution,
31:11
they
31:12
used
31:12
a
31:12
series
31:12
of
31:13
custom
31:13
digital
31:13
and
31:14
analog
31:14
methods
31:15
to
31:15
match
31:15
the
31:15
aesthetics
31:16
of
31:16
8
31:17
millimeter
31:17
film,
31:18
90s
31:18
digital
31:19
video
31:19
and
31:20
VHS
31:21
set
31:21
to
31:21
a
31:21
cover
31:22
of
31:22
Nirvana
31:23
Smells
31:23
Like
31:23
Teen
31:24
Spirit
31:24
by
31:25
thinkapanga
31:25
featuring
31:26
Marlia
31:26
J,
31:27
which
31:27
was
31:28
suggested
31:28
by
31:29
Perception.
31:30
It
31:30
is
31:30
raw,
31:31
gritty
31:31
and
31:32
intentionally
31:33
somber.
31:34
This
31:34
is
31:34
not
31:34
your
31:35
average
31:35
MCU
31:36
movie.
31:37
This
31:37
one
31:37
is
31:37
set
31:37
on
31:38
earth
31:38
with
31:38
real
31:39
people
31:39
doing
31:40
nasty
31:40
real
31:41
people
31:41
stuff.
31:42
And
31:42
I
31:42
really
31:43
love
31:43
that
31:43
cover
31:43
of
31:43
Smells
31:44
Like
31:44
Teen
31:44
Spirit
31:44
as
31:45
well.
31:45
I
31:45
think
31:45
it
31:45
suits
31:46
the
31:46
movie
31:46
absolutely
31:47
perfectly
31:48
so
31:49
Black
31:49
Widow
31:49
was
31:49
originally
31:50
scheduled
31:50
for
31:50
release
31:51
in
31:51
May
31:51
2020,
31:52
which
31:53
for
31:53
obvious
31:53
Covid
31:54
based
31:54
reasons
31:55
did
31:55
not
31:55
go
31:56
ahead.
31:56
Disney
31:57
retained
31:58
the
31:58
May
31:58
2020
31:59
release
31:59
date
32:00
despite
32:00
other
32:01
big
32:01
movies
32:01
like
32:01
no
32:02
Time
32:02
to
32:02
Die,
32:03
shifting
32:03
theirs
32:03
early
32:04
on
32:04
in
32:04
the
32:04
pandemic.
32:05
Disney
32:06
kept
32:06
that
32:06
May
32:07
2020
32:07
release
32:08
date
32:08
up
32:09
until
32:09
early
32:09
March
32:10
2020,
32:11
but
32:11
then
32:12
cinemas
32:13
across
32:13
the
32:13
US
32:13
started
32:14
closing
32:14
their
32:14
doors
32:15
and
32:15
Disney
32:16
removed
32:16
Black
32:16
Widow
32:17
from
32:17
its
32:18
May
32:18
2020
32:19
release
32:19
slot.
32:20
They
32:20
then
32:20
rescheduled
32:21
it
32:21
for
32:21
November
32:22
2020
32:23
and
32:23
shifted
32:24
other
32:24
Phase
32:24
4
32:25
movies
32:25
back
32:25
to
32:26
accommodate
32:26
the
32:26
change
32:26
in
32:27
schedule.
32:28
In
32:28
September
32:28
2020,
32:29
with
32:29
COVID
32:30
still
32:30
raging
32:31
across
32:31
the
32:31
world,
32:32
Disney
32:32
pushed
32:32
the
32:33
release
32:33
back
32:33
again
32:33
to
32:34
May
32:34
2021,
32:35
also
32:36
pushing
32:36
Shang
32:37
Chi
32:37
back.
32:38
For
32:38
reasons
32:38
I'll
32:39
come
32:39
to,
32:39
Black
32:40
Widow
32:40
had
32:40
to
32:41
have
32:41
a
32:41
theatrical
32:42
release,
32:42
but
32:43
Covid
32:43
was
32:44
making
32:44
the
32:44
situation
32:45
increasingly
32:45
difficult.
32:47
In
32:47
late
32:47
March
32:48
2021,
32:49
Disney
32:49
announced
32:50
Black
32:50
Widow
32:50
was
32:51
moving
32:51
dates
32:51
again
32:52
to
32:52
9
32:53
July
32:54
2021
32:54
and
32:55
announced
32:55
that
32:55
it
32:55
would
32:56
be
32:56
released
32:56
simultaneously
32:57
in
32:58
theaters
32:59
and
32:59
on
32:59
Disney
33:00
with
33:00
premier
33:00
access.
33:01
To
33:01
accommodate,
33:02
quote
33:03
the
33:03
evolving
33:04
preferences
33:04
of
33:04
audiences,
33:06
several
33:07
studios
33:07
had
33:07
started
33:08
experimenting
33:09
with
33:09
simultaneous
33:10
theatrical
33:10
and
33:10
streaming
33:11
releases,
33:12
and
33:12
during
33:12
that
33:13
year
33:13
Disney
33:14
released
33:14
some
33:14
of
33:14
its
33:15
planned
33:15
but
33:15
postponed
33:16
2020
33:16
releases
33:17
like
33:18
Mulan
33:18
and
33:18
Raya
33:19
and
33:19
the
33:19
Last
33:19
Dragon
33:20
via
33:20
Disney
33:21
Premiere
33:22
Access,
33:22
with
33:23
subscribers
33:23
paying
33:24
an
33:24
additional
33:24
$30
33:25
a
33:25
film
33:26
to
33:26
stream
33:26
the
33:27
movie
33:27
at
33:27
home.
33:28
But
33:29
in
33:30
July
33:30
2021,
33:31
Scarlett
33:32
Johansson
33:33
filed
33:33
a
33:33
lawsuit
33:34
against
33:34
Disney
33:34
over
33:35
breach
33:35
of
33:35
contract,
33:36
alleging
33:36
that
33:37
the
33:37
studio
33:37
broke
33:38
its
33:38
agreement
33:38
with
33:39
her
33:39
when
33:39
they
33:39
decided
33:40
to
33:40
release
33:40
Black
33:41
Widow
33:42
simultaneously
33:42
in
33:43
theaters
33:43
and
33:44
on
33:44
Disney
33:44
plus.
33:45
Court
33:45
documents
33:46
filed
33:46
by
33:46
Johansson
33:47
detailed
33:48
that
33:48
the
33:48
deal
33:48
guaranteed
33:49
an
33:49
exclusive
33:50
theatrical
33:51
release
33:51
and
33:52
that
33:52
her
33:52
salary
33:52
for
33:53
the
33:53
film
33:53
was
33:53
largely
33:54
tied
33:54
to
33:54
box
33:55
office
33:55
performance.
33:56
Disney
33:57
issued
33:57
a
33:57
statement
33:57
in
33:58
response
33:58
to
33:58
the
33:59
suit
33:59
saying
34:00
it
34:00
had
34:00
no
34:00
merit
34:01
whatsoever
34:01
and
34:02
that
34:02
Johansson
34:02
had
34:03
shown
34:04
a,
34:04
quote,
34:04
callous
34:05
disregard
34:06
for
34:06
the
34:06
horrific
34:06
and
34:07
prolonged
34:07
global
34:07
effect
34:08
of
34:08
the
34:09
COVID
34:09
19
34:09
pandemic,
34:10
unquote,
34:11
that
34:11
the
34:11
company
34:12
claimed
34:12
they
34:12
had
34:12
fully
34:13
complied
34:13
with
34:13
Johansson's
34:14
contract
34:15
and
34:15
that
34:15
the
34:15
Disney
34:16
plus
34:16
Premiere
34:17
Access
34:17
release
34:17
of
34:17
the
34:18
film
34:18
had
34:18
significantly
34:19
enhanced
34:20
her
34:20
ability
34:20
to
34:21
earn
34:21
additional
34:22
compensation
34:23
beyond
34:23
the
34:23
$20
34:24
million
34:24
she
34:25
had
34:25
already
34:25
received.
34:26
In
34:26
response,
34:27
her
34:28
agent,
34:28
Brian
34:29
Lord,
34:29
fired
34:30
back,
34:30
condemning
34:31
Disney's
34:31
response
34:32
as,
34:32
quote,
34:33
shamelessly
34:33
and
34:34
falsely
34:34
accusing
34:35
Ms.
34:35
Johansson
34:36
of
34:36
being
34:36
insensitive
34:37
to
34:37
the
34:37
global
34:38
COVID
34:38
pandemic,
34:39
unquote,
34:39
and
34:40
accusing
34:40
the
34:40
company
34:41
of
34:41
leaving
34:42
artistic
34:42
and
34:43
financial
34:43
partners
34:44
out
34:44
of
34:44
their
34:44
streaming
34:45
profits,
34:46
and
34:46
denounced
34:46
the
34:46
disclosure
34:47
of
34:47
Johansson's
34:48
$20
34:48
million
34:49
earnings
34:50
as,
34:50
quote,
34:50
an
34:51
attempt
34:51
to
34:51
weaponize
34:52
her
34:52
success
34:52
as
34:53
an
34:53
artist
34:53
and
34:54
businesswoman,
34:54
as
34:55
if
34:55
that
34:55
was
34:55
something
34:56
she
34:56
should
34:56
be
34:56
ashamed
34:57
of,
34:57
unquote.
34:59
Disney
35:00
were
35:00
firmly
35:00
between
35:01
a
35:01
rock
35:01
and
35:01
a
35:01
hard
35:01
place,
35:02
though,
35:02
as
35:02
their
35:03
aggressive
35:03
post
35:04
endgame
35:04
scheduling
35:05
meant
35:05
the
35:05
TV
35:06
series
35:06
Hawkeye
35:07
was
35:07
due
35:07
to
35:07
premiere,
35:08
which
35:08
also
35:09
featured
35:09
Florence
35:10
Pugh's
35:10
Yelena
35:11
and
35:11
followed
35:12
on
35:12
from
35:12
the
35:12
story
35:12
of
35:13
Black
35:13
Widow.
35:13
And
35:14
they
35:14
had
35:14
already
35:14
delayed
35:15
Black
35:15
Widow
35:16
a
35:16
year
35:17
after
35:17
Disney
35:17
filed
35:18
a
35:18
motion
35:18
to
35:18
move
35:18
the
35:19
lawsuit
35:19
to
35:19
arbitration
35:20
in
35:20
August
35:21
2021.
35:22
Johansson
35:23
and
35:23
Disney
35:23
reached
35:23
a
35:24
settlement
35:24
over
35:24
the
35:24
lawsuit
35:25
a
35:25
month
35:25
later,
35:26
and
35:26
terms
35:27
of
35:27
the
35:27
settlement
35:28
were
35:28
not
35:28
disclosed.
35:29
The
35:29
settlement
35:30
came
35:30
after
35:30
Disney
35:31
chose
35:31
to
35:31
give
35:32
theatrical
35:32
only
35:33
releases
35:34
to
35:34
subsequent
35:34
2021
35:35
films,
35:36
following
35:36
the
35:37
box
35:37
office
35:37
success
35:38
of
35:38
Shang
35:38
Chi
35:39
and
35:39
Free
35:39
Guy,
35:40
which
35:40
both
35:40
received
35:41
exclusive
35:41
theatrical
35:42
windows
35:43
when
35:43
initially
35:43
released.
35:45
Black
35:45
Widow
35:46
was
35:46
released
35:46
on
35:47
7th
35:47
July
35:48
2021
35:48
in
35:49
cinemas
35:49
worldwide
35:50
and
35:50
on
35:50
9th
35:51
July
35:51
2021
35:52
in
35:52
the
35:52
US
35:53
and
35:53
also
35:54
simultaneously
35:55
on
35:55
Disney
35:55
Plus.
35:56
It
35:56
went
35:56
to
35:57
number
35:57
one
35:57
in
35:57
its
35:58
first
35:58
week
35:58
in
35:59
cinemas.
35:59
Movies
36:00
were
36:00
being
36:00
released
36:01
but
36:01
not
36:02
often,
36:02
and
36:02
Black
36:03
Widow
36:03
was
36:03
the
36:03
only
36:04
major
36:04
studio
36:05
release
36:05
that
36:05
week
36:06
because
36:06
no
36:06
other
36:06
studio
36:07
would
36:07
want
36:07
their
36:07
movie
36:08
taking
36:08
on
36:09
an
36:09
MCU
36:09
movie.
36:11
Black
36:11
Widow
36:11
was
36:12
out
36:12
at
36:12
the
36:12
Same
36:12
Time
36:13
as
36:13
F9,
36:13
the
36:14
Fast
36:14
Saga,
36:15
the
36:15
Boss
36:15
Baby
36:16
2,
36:16
the
36:16
Forever
36:16
Purge,
36:17
A
36:17
Quiet
36:18
Place
36:18
Part
36:18
2
36:18
and
36:19
Cruella
36:20
the
36:20
following
36:20
week
36:20
Black
36:21
Widow
36:21
was
36:21
dethroned
36:22
from
36:22
its
36:22
number
36:23
one
36:23
spot
36:23
by
36:24
Space
36:24
Jam.
36:25
A
36:25
new
36:25
legacy.
36:26
And
36:26
it's
36:27
unfortunate
36:27
really,
36:27
because
36:28
now
36:28
Black
36:29
Widow
36:29
is
36:29
often
36:30
mentioned
36:30
when
36:30
you
36:31
hear
36:31
talk
36:31
of
36:32
Marvel's
36:33
lowest
36:33
grossing
36:33
movies.
36:34
And
36:34
that's
36:35
not
36:35
untrue.
36:36
It
36:36
is
36:36
one
36:36
of
36:36
the
36:36
lowest.
36:37
But
36:38
other
36:38
Marvel
36:38
movies
36:39
didn't
36:39
come
36:39
out
36:39
during
36:40
a
36:40
pandemic.
36:41
Black
36:41
Widow
36:42
was
36:42
the
36:42
first
36:42
movie
36:43
of
36:43
Phase
36:43
4
36:44
and
36:44
the
36:44
first
36:44
to
36:44
come
36:45
out
36:45
during
36:45
COVID
36:46
It
36:46
was
36:46
followed
36:47
by
36:47
Shang
36:47
Chi
36:48
and
36:48
Eternals,
36:49
which
36:49
only
36:49
earned
36:50
50
36:50
and
36:51
20
36:51
million
36:51
dollars
36:52
more
36:52
respectively.
36:53
And
36:54
they
36:54
didn't
36:54
have
36:54
a
36:55
simultaneous
36:55
release
36:56
on
36:56
Disney.
36:57
In
36:57
fact,
36:58
both
36:58
had
36:58
an
36:58
exclusive
36:59
45
37:00
day
37:00
release
37:00
in
37:01
cinemas.
37:02
Black
37:02
Widow
37:03
actually
37:03
had
37:03
the
37:04
most
37:04
ticket
37:04
Pre
37:04
sales
37:05
of
37:05
2021.
37:07
It
37:07
grossed
37:07
$183.7
37:09
million
37:09
domestically
37:10
in
37:10
the
37:10
US
37:11
and
37:11
$196.1
37:13
million
37:13
internationally,
37:15
for
37:15
a
37:15
total
37:15
worldwide
37:16
gross
37:16
of
37:16
$379.8
37:18
million.
37:19
But
37:20
that
37:20
doesn't
37:20
take
37:20
into
37:20
account
37:21
the
37:21
Disney
37:22
Plus
37:22
Premier
37:22
Access.
37:23
It
37:24
was
37:24
the
37:24
first
37:24
film
37:24
that
37:25
Disney
37:25
revealed.
37:26
Premier
37:26
Access
37:27
revenue
37:27
for
37:28
the
37:28
film's
37:28
opening
37:29
weekend
37:29
earned
37:30
$226.2
37:31
million
37:32
globally,
37:33
which
37:33
include
37:34
$80.4
37:35
million
37:36
at
37:36
the
37:36
domestic
37:36
box
37:37
office,
37:37
$78.8
37:38
million
37:39
at
37:39
the
37:39
international
37:40
box
37:40
office,
37:41
and
37:41
$67
37:42
million
37:43
in
37:43
Disney
37:44
Plus
37:44
Premier
37:44
Access
37:45
global
37:45
revenue.
37:46
When
37:47
you
37:47
take
37:47
the
37:47
Disney
37:47
Plus
37:48
Premier
37:48
Access
37:49
into
37:49
account,
37:50
Black
37:50
Widow
37:50
actually
37:51
has
37:51
the
37:51
third
37:52
largest
37:52
opening
37:53
for
37:53
an
37:53
MCU
37:54
origin
37:54
movie
37:55
behind
37:55
Black
37:56
Panther
37:56
and
37:56
Captain
37:57
Marvel.
37:58
It
37:58
also
37:58
became
37:59
the
37:59
third
37:59
most
38:00
pirated
38:00
film
38:01
of
38:01
the
38:01
pandemic,
38:02
with
38:02
over
38:02
20
38:03
million
38:03
pirated
38:04
views.
38:04
And
38:05
it's
38:05
estimated
38:06
that
38:06
this
38:06
level
38:06
of
38:06
piracy
38:07
cost
38:08
Disney
38:08
Approximately
38:10
$600
38:11
million
38:12
of
38:12
lost
38:12
revenue
38:13
from
38:13
this
38:13
movie.
38:14
So
38:14
in
38:15
a
38:15
slightly
38:15
different
38:16
time
38:16
period,
38:17
in
38:17
a
38:17
slightly
38:17
different
38:18
version
38:18
of
38:18
this
38:18
universe,
38:19
with
38:19
no
38:19
Covid
38:20
or
38:20
a
38:21
slightly
38:21
different
38:21
version
38:22
of
38:22
this
38:22
movie
38:22
that
38:23
maybe
38:23
came
38:23
out
38:23
several
38:24
years
38:24
earlier,
38:25
this
38:25
movie
38:26
could
38:26
have
38:26
been
38:26
absolutely
38:27
huge
38:28
for
38:28
Marvel
38:28
and
38:28
could
38:29
have
38:29
made
38:29
a
38:29
hell
38:29
of
38:29
a
38:29
lot
38:30
of
38:30
money.
38:31
But
38:31
circumstances
38:33
Black
38:33
Widow
38:34
has
38:34
a
38:34
score
38:34
on
38:34
rotten
38:35
tomatoes
38:35
of
38:36
79%
38:37
with
38:37
the
38:37
critical
38:38
consensus
38:38
reading.
38:39
Black
38:40
Widow's
38:40
deeper
38:40
themes
38:41
are
38:41
drowned
38:41
out
38:41
in
38:42
all
38:42
the
38:42
action,
38:42
but
38:43
it
38:43
remains
38:43
a
38:43
solidly
38:44
entertaining
38:45
standalone
38:45
adventure
38:46
that's
38:46
rounded
38:47
out
38:47
by
38:47
a
38:47
stellar
38:48
supporting
38:48
cast.
38:49
Critics
38:50
praised
38:50
Johansson
38:51
and
38:51
Pugh
38:51
as
38:52
well
38:52
as
38:52
its
38:52
gritty
38:53
tone
38:53
and
38:53
the
38:53
fact
38:54
it
38:54
diversifies
38:55
the
38:55
MCU
38:55
with
38:56
a
38:56
high
38:56
octane
38:57
espionage
38:57
thriller.
38:58
Black
38:59
Widow
38:59
was
38:59
also
39:00
one
39:00
of
39:00
28
39:00
films
39:01
that
39:01
received
39:01
the
39:02
reframe
39:02
stamp
39:02
for
39:03
2021,
39:04
which
39:04
is
39:04
awarded
39:05
by
39:05
the
39:05
Gender
39:05
Equality
39:06
Coalition
39:07
Reframe
39:08
for
39:08
films
39:08
that
39:08
are
39:08
proven
39:09
to
39:09
have
39:09
gender
39:10
balanced
39:10
hiring
39:11
on
39:11
how
39:11
Many
39:12
women
39:12
are
39:12
involved
39:13
in
39:13
a
39:13
production
39:13
in
39:14
front
39:14
of
39:14
and
39:15
behind
39:15
the
39:15
camera.
39:16
Other
39:16
movies
39:17
under
39:17
the
39:17
Disney
39:18
umbrella
39:18
awarded
39:19
that
39:19
year
39:19
included
39:20
Cruella,
39:21
Encanto
39:22
and
39:22
Eternals.
39:24
While
39:24
Natasha's
39:25
story
39:25
is
39:25
over
39:25
and
39:26
her
39:26
sacrifice
39:26
in
39:27
Endgame
39:27
still
39:27
poignant,
39:28
the
39:29
MCU
39:29
moves
39:29
on
39:30
because
39:30
Yelena
39:31
is
39:31
still
39:31
around.
39:32
And
39:32
Yelena
39:33
is
39:33
still
39:33
dealing
39:34
with
39:34
her
39:34
own
39:34
trauma
39:35
after
39:35
losing
39:35
her
39:35
family,
39:36
becoming
39:36
a
39:37
mind
39:37
controlled
39:37
assassin,
39:38
finding
39:39
her
39:39
sister,
39:39
getting
39:40
blipped,
39:40
coming
39:41
back
39:41
to
39:41
find
39:41
her
39:41
sister
39:42
is
39:42
dead,
39:42
becoming
39:43
a
39:43
contract
39:43
killer
39:44
and
39:44
almost
39:44
killing
39:45
Clint
39:45
Barton.
39:46
From
39:46
a
39:46
three
39:47
episode
39:47
appearance
39:47
in
39:47
Hawkeye
39:49
through
39:49
to
39:49
this
39:49
year's
39:49
Thunderbolts.
39:50
Which
39:50
is
39:50
great
39:50
by
39:51
the
39:51
way.
39:51
Really
39:51
enjoyed
39:52
that.
39:52
Yelena
39:53
is
39:53
due
39:53
to
39:53
return
39:54
in
39:54
Avengers
39:55
Doomsday
39:55
next
39:56
year
39:56
in
39:56
2026,
39:57
so
39:58
welcome
39:58
to
39:58
the
39:58
MCQ.
40:00
Taskmaster
40:01
would
40:01
also
40:01
return
40:02
in
40:02
Thunderbolts.
40:04
One
40:04
of
40:04
the
40:04
things
40:05
that
40:05
stands
40:05
out
40:05
the
40:05
most
40:06
for
40:06
me,
40:06
and
40:07
seeing
40:07
how
40:07
far
40:07
the
40:08
MCU
40:08
particularly
40:09
has
40:09
come
40:10
over
40:10
its
40:10
almost
40:11
18
40:12
years
40:13
of
40:13
existence,
40:14
is
40:14
Black
40:14
Widow.
40:15
I'm
40:15
talking
40:15
about
40:16
the
40:16
character,
40:17
not
40:17
so
40:17
much
40:17
the
40:18
movie,
40:18
but
40:18
the
40:18
movie
40:19
plays
40:19
a
40:19
part.
40:20
Natasha
40:20
Romanoff
40:21
was
40:21
for
40:22
so
40:22
long
40:22
the
40:22
only
40:23
major
40:23
female
40:24
character
40:25
and
40:25
with
40:25
that
40:26
was
40:26
projected
40:27
everything
40:27
your
40:28
sole
40:28
female
40:28
character
40:29
needed
40:29
to
40:29
be.
40:30
She
40:30
needed
40:31
to
40:31
be
40:31
pretty,
40:31
she
40:32
needed
40:32
to
40:32
be
40:32
funny,
40:33
she
40:33
needed
40:34
to
40:34
have
40:34
trauma
40:34
but
40:35
be
40:35
totally
40:35
okay
40:36
with
40:36
it.
40:36
She
40:37
needed
40:37
to
40:37
service
40:37
the
40:38
men
40:38
in
40:38
the
40:38
story,
40:39
she
40:39
needed
40:39
to
40:40
kick
40:40
ass,
40:40
she
40:40
needed
40:41
to
40:41
look
40:41
good
40:41
doing
40:42
it.
40:43
And
40:43
she
40:43
needed
40:43
to
40:44
have
40:44
no
40:44
flaws,
40:45
nothing
40:45
visible
40:46
anyway.
40:47
She's
40:47
Scarlett
40:48
Johansson,
40:48
one
40:48
of
40:49
the
40:49
most
40:49
beautiful
40:49
women
40:49
in
40:50
the
40:50
world
40:50
and
40:51
now
40:51
the
40:51
highest
40:51
grossing
40:52
lead
40:52
actor
40:53
of
40:53
all
40:53
time.
40:54
But
40:55
Black
40:55
Widow
40:55
needed
40:56
to
40:56
do
40:56
this
40:56
while
40:57
also
40:57
being
40:58
hypersexualized.
40:59
Johansson
41:00
has
41:00
acknowledged
41:01
this
41:01
herself.
41:02
It
41:02
was
41:02
almost
41:02
a
41:02
prerequisite.
41:04
In
41:04
press
41:04
for
41:05
this
41:05
movie
41:05
she
41:05
mentioned
41:06
how
41:06
the
41:06
character
41:07
was
41:07
underestimated
41:08
and
41:08
undervalued
41:09
by
41:09
this
41:10
lens
41:10
of
41:10
the
41:10
male
41:11
gaze.
41:11
In
41:12
Iron
41:12
Man
41:12
2,
41:12
Tony
41:13
Stark
41:13
says
41:13
he
41:14
wants
41:14
one,
41:14
and
41:15
having
41:15
developed
41:15
and
41:16
built
41:16
this
41:16
character
41:16
over
41:17
her
41:17
many
41:17
appearances,
41:18
Johansson
41:19
didn't
41:19
want
41:19
that.
41:20
For
41:20
Natasha,
41:21
the
41:21
era
41:21
of
41:21
the
41:22
femme
41:22
fatale
41:22
is
41:23
over.
41:24
Compare
41:25
the
41:25
introduction
41:25
of
41:26
Natasha
41:26
in
41:26
Iron
41:27
Man
41:27
2
41:27
to
41:28
the
41:28
introduction
41:28
of
41:29
Yelena.
41:30
Yelena
41:30
is
41:31
just
41:31
as
41:31
physically
41:32
attractive
41:32
and
41:32
fit
41:33
as
41:33
Natasha,
41:34
just
41:34
as
41:34
agile
41:35
and
41:35
adept
41:35
with
41:36
a
41:36
firearm.
41:36
But
41:37
Yelena
41:37
is
41:38
allowed
41:38
to
41:38
exist,
41:39
is
41:39
allowed
41:39
to
41:40
be
41:40
feminine
41:40
and
41:40
vulnerable
41:41
as
41:42
well
41:42
as
41:42
smart
41:43
and
41:43
tough.
41:44
The
41:44
whole
41:44
jabs
41:45
at
41:45
Natasha's
41:45
posing
41:46
was
41:46
on
41:46
set
41:46
banter
41:47
between
41:47
Florence
41:48
Pugh
41:48
and
41:48
Scarlett
41:49
Johansson
41:49
that
41:50
ended
41:50
up
41:50
being
41:50
written
41:51
into
41:51
the
41:51
script
41:51
because
41:52
Natasha's
41:52
early
41:52
poses
41:53
were
41:54
silly.
41:55
Now
41:55
this
41:55
hypersexualization
41:56
didn't
41:57
start
41:57
with
41:57
the
41:57
mcu.
41:58
It
41:58
started
41:58
with
41:59
her
41:59
depiction
41:59
in
41:59
the
42:00
comics,
42:00
but
42:00
it
42:01
shows
42:01
how
42:01
the
42:01
MCU
42:02
has
42:02
matured
42:03
and
42:03
how
42:03
executives
42:04
have
42:04
actually
42:05
started
42:05
listening
42:06
to
42:06
the
42:06
actors
42:07
and
42:07
the
42:07
fans.
42:08
It
42:08
undoubtedly
42:09
comes
42:09
as
42:09
well
42:10
from
42:10
Johansson
42:11
being
42:11
an
42:11
executive
42:12
producer
42:12
and
42:13
having
42:13
that
42:13
say
42:13
in
42:14
how
42:14
she
42:14
wants
42:14
the
42:15
character
42:15
to
42:15
be
42:15
depicted.
42:16
But
42:16
I
42:16
love
42:17
that
42:17
she
42:17
recognized
42:18
that
42:18
and
42:18
that
42:19
they've
42:19
chosen
42:19
to
42:20
not
42:20
go
42:20
that
42:20
way
42:21
with
42:21
Yelena.
42:22
Yelena
42:23
can
42:23
be
42:23
everything
42:23
Natasha
42:24
was,
42:25
but
42:25
she
42:25
doesn't
42:25
have
42:26
to
42:26
be
42:26
perfect
42:27
and
42:27
she
42:27
doesn't
42:27
have
42:27
to
42:28
service
42:28
the
42:28
needs
42:28
of
42:29
men.
42:29
Yelena
42:30
has
42:30
flaws,
42:31
and
42:31
this
42:31
movie
42:32
allows
42:32
Natasha
42:33
to
42:33
have
42:33
the
42:34
same
42:34
and
42:34
for
42:34
her
42:35
to
42:35
be
42:35
finally
42:35
free
42:36
of
42:36
some
42:36
of
42:36
her
42:36
demons
42:37
before
42:38
her
42:38
inevitable
42:38
end
42:39
in
42:39
Endgame.
42:40
But
42:40
most
42:40
importantly,
42:41
we
42:41
get
42:41
a
42:41
pass
42:42
for
42:42
a
42:42
character
42:42
that
42:43
has
42:43
no
42:43
future.
42:44
Yes,
42:45
this
42:45
movie
42:45
should
42:45
have
42:45
come
42:46
way
42:46
sooner,
42:46
but
42:46
did
42:47
it
42:47
cheapen
42:47
Natasha's
42:48
death?
42:49
In
42:49
many
42:49
ways,
42:49
it
42:50
deepened
42:50
it.
42:51
Natasha
42:51
did
42:51
what
42:52
she
42:52
did
42:52
for
42:52
Clint,
42:53
but
42:53
she
42:53
also
42:53
inadvertently
42:54
brought
42:54
back
42:55
Yelena.
42:56
It
42:56
didn't
42:56
need
42:56
to
42:57
do
42:57
anything
42:57
other
42:57
than
42:58
tell
42:58
you
42:58
more
42:58
about
42:59
Natasha
42:59
to
43:00
spend
43:00
more
43:00
time
43:00
with
43:00
her,
43:01
which
43:01
is
43:02
accomplished
43:02
here.
43:03
This
43:03
movie
43:03
is
43:04
not
43:04
here
43:04
to
43:04
further
43:04
the
43:05
wider
43:05
mcu,
43:06
nor
43:06
was
43:07
it
43:07
here
43:07
to
43:07
somehow
43:07
bring
43:08
Natasha
43:08
back
43:09
to
43:09
life.
43:09
It
43:10
existed
43:10
to
43:10
bring
43:10
us
43:11
more
43:11
of
43:11
a
43:11
character
43:11
that
43:12
we
43:12
know
43:12
was
43:12
dead
43:13
and
43:13
to
43:13
introduce
43:14
another
43:15
and
43:15
to
43:15
give
43:15
us
43:15
Rachel
43:16
voice.
43:16
Obligatory
43:17
mummy
43:17
reference.
43:18
It
43:18
feels
43:19
sad.
43:19
This
43:19
is
43:19
the
43:19
first
43:19
time
43:19
I've
43:20
mentioned
43:20
Rachel
43:20
voice,
43:21
but
43:21
this
43:22
movie,
43:22
there's
43:22
a
43:22
lot
43:23
of
43:23
other
43:23
stuff
43:23
to
43:23
talk
43:24
about.
43:25
Ray
43:25
Winston
43:26
may
43:26
have
43:26
not
43:26
enjoyed
43:27
this
43:27
movie,
43:28
but
43:28
Dreykov
43:29
is
43:29
an
43:29
important
43:29
tool
43:30
in
43:30
Natasha's
43:31
forgiveness
43:31
of
43:31
herself
43:32
and
43:32
of
43:32
her
43:33
actions.
43:33
He
43:34
is
43:34
such
43:34
a
43:34
monster
43:35
and
43:35
hates
43:36
women
43:36
so
43:37
much
43:37
that
43:37
even
43:37
his
43:38
own
43:38
daughter
43:38
is
43:39
a
43:39
commodity
43:39
for
43:40
him
43:40
to
43:40
control.
43:41
His
43:41
end
43:42
is
43:42
adding
43:42
no
43:42
more
43:43
red
43:43
to
43:43
anyone's
43:44
ledger.
43:44
His
43:45
end
43:45
is
43:45
freeing
43:46
all
43:46
the
43:46
widows,
43:47
including
43:47
Antonia
43:48
Dreykov,
43:49
from
43:49
the
43:49
evil
43:49
clutches
43:50
of
43:50
a
43:50
man
43:50
who
43:50
sees
43:51
women
43:51
as
43:51
nothing
43:52
more
43:52
than
43:53
controllable
43:53
killing
43:54
machine.
43:55
These
43:55
women
43:55
are
43:55
now
43:56
free
43:56
to
43:56
live
43:56
their
43:56
lives
43:57
as
43:57
they
43:57
see
43:57
fit.
43:58
They're
43:58
given
43:58
their
43:59
humanity
43:59
back,
44:00
their
44:00
rights
44:00
back,
44:01
and
44:01
their
44:01
autonomy
44:02
back.
44:03
And
44:04
the
44:04
reason
44:04
I
44:04
felt
44:04
this
44:05
movie
44:05
resonated
44:06
much
44:06
more
44:06
now
44:06
than
44:07
it
44:07
did
44:07
in
44:07
2021
44:08
is
44:09
for
44:09
many
44:09
reasons,
44:10
but
44:10
also
44:11
because
44:11
of
44:11
Roe
44:11
vs.
44:12
Wade
44:12
and
44:12
the
44:12
overturning
44:13
of
44:13
Roe
44:13
v.
44:14
Wade.
44:15
Something
44:15
that
44:15
does
44:15
not
44:15
affect
44:16
me
44:16
here
44:16
in
44:16
the
44:16
uk,
44:17
but
44:17
it
44:18
does
44:18
affect
44:18
millions
44:18
of
44:18
women
44:19
in
44:19
the
44:19
us.
44:20
Millions
44:20
of
44:20
women
44:20
who
44:21
are
44:21
being
44:21
forced
44:21
against
44:22
their
44:22
will
44:22
to
44:23
use
44:23
their
44:23
bodies
44:23
in
44:24
ways
44:24
that
44:24
they
44:24
would
44:24
not
44:25
consent
44:25
to
44:26
had
44:26
they
44:26
had
44:27
the
44:27
means
44:27
to
44:27
acquire
44:28
reproductive
44:29
rights
44:29
services,
44:30
not
44:30
just
44:30
abortions,
44:31
but
44:31
general
44:31
reproductive
44:32
health
44:32
care,
44:33
including
44:33
contraception.
44:34
Cervical
44:35
screenings
44:35
and
44:36
STI
44:36
testing.
44:37
The
44:37
widows
44:38
in
44:38
this
44:38
movie
44:38
are
44:39
vessels
44:39
too
44:40
brainwashed
44:41
to
44:41
do
44:41
the
44:41
bidding
44:41
of
44:41
Dreykov
44:42
until
44:43
their
44:43
bodies
44:43
can't
44:44
do
44:44
it
44:44
anymore.
44:45
They
44:45
are
44:45
forced
44:46
by
44:46
a
44:46
man
44:46
to
44:47
use
44:47
their
44:47
bodies
44:47
in
44:48
ways
44:48
they
44:48
would
44:49
not
44:49
otherwise
44:50
do.
44:50
And
44:50
in
44:50
a
44:50
post
44:51
Roe
44:51
v.
44:51
Wade
44:52
world,
44:52
this
44:52
screams
44:53
so
44:53
much
44:53
of
44:54
protecting
44:54
women's
44:55
bodily
44:55
autonomy
44:56
and
44:56
giving
44:57
a
44:57
woman
44:57
the
44:57
right
44:57
to
44:58
choose
44:58
because
44:58
these
44:59
women
44:59
would
44:59
not
44:59
otherwise
45:00
choose
45:00
this
45:01
life.
45:02
They
45:02
were
45:02
young
45:02
girls
45:03
kidnapped
45:04
from
45:04
families,
45:05
forced
45:05
to
45:05
become
45:06
sterilised
45:07
and
45:07
forced
45:07
to
45:07
become
45:07
killers.
45:08
Natasha
45:09
and
45:09
Jelena's
45:10
ultimate
45:10
quest
45:11
to
45:11
free
45:11
these
45:11
women
45:12
is
45:12
a
45:12
powerful
45:13
statement
45:13
that
45:13
it's
45:14
every
45:14
woman's
45:15
responsibility
45:16
to
45:16
be
45:16
there
45:16
for
45:16
other
45:17
women.
45:17
And
45:18
that
45:18
resonated
45:19
so
45:19
much
45:19
with
45:19
me
45:20
as
45:20
a
45:20
woman
45:21
and
45:21
as
45:21
a
45:21
supporter
45:22
of
45:22
women
45:23
that
45:23
for
45:23
Natasha's
45:24
final
45:24
appearance
45:24
in
45:25
the
45:25
mcu,
45:26
she's
45:26
no
45:27
longer
45:27
serving
45:27
the
45:27
men,
45:28
but
45:28
serving
45:29
the
45:29
women.
45:30
And
45:30
then
45:31
in
45:31
Endgame,
45:31
she's
45:32
serving
45:32
everyone.
45:34
Natasha
45:35
has
45:35
no
45:35
future,
45:36
but
45:36
she
45:36
now
45:36
has
45:37
a
45:37
past
45:37
and
45:38
it's
45:38
remarkably
45:38
soulful,
45:39
bittersweet,
45:40
funny
45:41
and
45:41
tragic.
45:42
And
45:42
we
45:42
finally
45:43
know
45:43
what
45:44
happened
45:44
in
45:44
Budapest.
45:45
But
45:45
most
45:45
importantly,
45:46
Natasha
45:47
died
45:47
knowing
45:48
she
45:48
was
45:48
loved
45:49
by
45:49
her
45:49
family
45:50
and
45:51
her
45:51
family.
45:52
And
45:52
she
45:52
had
45:53
a
45:53
great
45:53
vest
45:54
with
45:54
so
45:54
many
45:55
pockets.
45:57
Thank
45:57
you
45:57
for
45:58
listening.
45:58
As
45:58
always,
45:58
I
45:58
would
45:59
love
45:59
to
45:59
hear
45:59
your
45:59
thoughts
45:59
on
46:00
Black
46:00
Widow
46:01
and
46:01
thank
46:01
you
46:01
for
46:01
your
46:02
continued
46:02
support
46:02
of
46:03
this
46:03
podcast.
46:04
If
46:04
you
46:04
want
46:04
to
46:04
get
46:05
involved
46:05
and
46:05
help
46:05
this
46:05
podcast
46:06
grow
46:06
and
46:06
reach
46:07
more
46:07
people,
46:08
you
46:08
could
46:08
tell
46:08
your
46:09
friends
46:09
and
46:09
family
46:09
about
46:10
this
46:10
podcast
46:10
or
46:11
about
46:11
this
46:11
episode.
46:12
You
46:12
can
46:12
leave
46:13
a
46:13
ideally
46:14
five
46:14
star
46:14
rating
46:15
or
46:15
review
46:15
wherever
46:16
you
46:16
found
46:16
this
46:16
podcast.
46:17
And
46:17
you
46:17
can
46:17
also
46:18
find
46:18
me
46:18
and
46:19
follow
46:19
me
46:19
on
46:19
social
46:19
media.
46:20
I
46:20
am
46:20
at
46:20
verbaldiorama
46:22
cross
46:22
social
46:22
media
46:23
where
46:23
you
46:24
can
46:24
like
46:24
post,
46:25
comment
46:25
on
46:25
posts,
46:26
share
46:26
post,
46:26
reply
46:27
to
46:27
posts,
46:28
DM
46:28
me,
46:29
all
46:29
of
46:29
the
46:29
above.
46:30
I
46:30
am
46:30
more
46:31
than
46:31
happy
46:31
to
46:31
hear
46:31
from
46:32
you
46:32
and
46:32
to
46:32
hear
46:33
your
46:33
thoughts
46:33
as
46:33
well.
46:34
And
46:34
if
46:35
you
46:35
like
46:35
this
46:35
episode
46:35
on
46:36
Black
46:36
Widow,
46:36
you
46:37
might
46:37
also
46:37
like
46:38
the
46:38
following
46:38
previous
46:39
episodes
46:39
that
46:39
I've
46:40
done
46:40
around
46:40
this
46:40
character
46:41
and
46:41
there
46:41
are
46:41
quite
46:42
a
46:42
few
46:42
episode
46:43
72
46:43
Captain
46:44
America
46:44
the
46:44
Winter
46:45
Soldier
46:46
which
46:46
still
46:47
remains
46:48
the
46:48
best
46:48
version
46:49
of
46:49
Natasha
46:49
that's
46:50
ever
46:50
been
46:50
put
46:50
to
46:50
screen,
46:51
even
46:51
including
46:52
this
46:52
movie.
46:52
Because
46:53
I
46:53
love
46:53
Natasha
46:54
in
46:54
the
46:54
Winter
46:54
Soldier
46:55
Episode
46:55
73
46:56
Captain
46:57
Civil
46:57
War
46:58
Episode
46:58
97
46:59
the
46:59
Avengers
47:00
Episode
47:00
98
47:01
Age
47:02
of
47:02
Ultron
47:02
Episode
47:03
99
47:03
Avengers
47:04
Infinity
47:04
War
47:05
and
47:05
wouldn't
47:05
you
47:05
guess
47:06
Episode
47:06
100
47:07
Avengers
47:07
Endgame.
47:08
As
47:09
always,
47:09
give
47:09
me
47:09
feedback,
47:10
let
47:10
me
47:10
know
47:10
what
47:10
you
47:10
think
47:11
of
47:11
those
47:11
episodes.
47:12
And
47:12
for
47:13
the
47:13
next
47:13
episode
47:13
we
47:14
are
47:14
going
47:14
from
47:14
black
47:15
to
47:15
red
47:16
and
47:17
another
47:17
spin
47:18
off
47:18
solo
47:18
female
47:19
led
47:19
movie
47:19
based
47:20
somewhat
47:21
on
47:21
Marvel
47:21
comics.
47:22
But
47:22
this
47:22
one's
47:23
a
47:23
little
47:23
different
47:23
because
47:24
in
47:24
the
47:24
80s,
47:25
fantasy
47:26
movies
47:26
were
47:26
a
47:26
big
47:26
deal
47:27
and
47:27
so
47:27
were
47:27
sword
47:28
and
47:28
sorcery
47:28
movies.
47:29
Red
47:30
Sonja
47:30
of
47:30
Rogatino
47:31
would
47:31
later
47:32
become
47:32
the
47:32
inspiration
47:33
for
47:33
Marvel
47:33
Comics
47:34
Chainmail
47:35
Bikini
47:35
Warrior
47:35
Red
47:36
Sonja
47:37
and
47:37
after
47:37
Conan
47:38
the
47:38
Barbarian
47:38
and
47:38
Conan
47:39
the
47:39
Destroyer,
47:40
Red
47:40
Sonja
47:41
would
47:41
take
47:41
place
47:41
in
47:42
the
47:42
same
47:42
fictional
47:43
universe
47:43
with
47:43
some
47:44
of
47:44
the
47:44
same
47:44
actors,
47:45
but
47:45
in
47:45
different
47:46
roles.
47:46
It
47:47
was
47:47
a
47:47
financial
47:47
and
47:48
critical
47:48
flop.
47:49
And
47:49
yet
47:49
a
47:49
reboot
47:50
has
47:50
been
47:50
talked
47:51
about
47:51
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