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Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, August 13 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: It is Thursday August. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. And
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Speaker 1: now a guy who hasn't been in diapers in months,
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Speaker 1: Jay Peace shadd it has been a little while. We
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Speaker 1: will hear from Jay Gruden coming up as well. Welcome
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Speaker 1: in Jaguars Happy Hour on this Thursday afternoon from the
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Speaker 1: home studio. Just in a different room of the home
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Speaker 1: studio this week if you're watching on at Jaguars and
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Speaker 1: Jaguars dot com. J P. Shatrick with you. Glad to
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Speaker 1: be along with you as always, and Jeff Lagaman is
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Speaker 1: set up in his new look home studio as well, lives.
0:45
Speaker 1: What's up, Bud. It's all good. J It's all good.
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Speaker 1: I like your background there. You got the musical thing
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Speaker 1: kind of going on there. Yeah, a little bit, you know,
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Speaker 1: rolling Stones, sky Trumps, mixing in some local flavor what not. Right,
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Speaker 1: it's a good thing. It's a good thing. It sits
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Speaker 1: you well. The let's get to what's coming up on
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Speaker 1: the show today. Camp continues. Of course we were out
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Speaker 1: there today. I was out there today for the second
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Speaker 1: day in a row. Defensive line changes. A lot of
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Speaker 1: moving parts there up front on the defensive side for
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Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars offensive installation that continues. That's the diaper
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Speaker 1: reference that Bruden talked about earlier. And we'll go around
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Speaker 1: the National Football League as we always do, so logs,
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Speaker 1: works out, workouts continue. This is really a phase two
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Speaker 1: type of situation. They're in helmets, um, there's no shoulder pads,
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Speaker 1: there's no contact, Offenses staying on their side of the field,
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Speaker 1: defenses on their field. They're not doing anything against each
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Speaker 1: other yet, so there's a lot of drill work to
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Speaker 1: be done. That's really about it right now. Yeah, so
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Speaker 1: are you are you really calling it camp? I mean really,
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Speaker 1: I mean it's it's not really a training camp so
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Speaker 1: to speak. I mean there's still in this build up
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Speaker 1: stage to get to the point where they do put
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Speaker 1: on pads, which is coming up, I believe on the fourteen,
2:12
Speaker 1: I believe it is, or is it the seventeen. It's
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Speaker 1: coming soon. It's coming on the left right now. I
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Speaker 1: mean there, it's literally, I mean, this is going back
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Speaker 1: to the basic fundamentals of football, which can be good
2:26
Speaker 1: and it also can be maybe not so good, because
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Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of the older guys are like,
2:31
Speaker 1: wait a minute, I graduated football one oh one years ago,
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Speaker 1: and I'm on advanced level of football here, and so
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Speaker 1: let's start working on other things and not just working
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Speaker 1: against bags and working against air. Let's work against each
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Speaker 1: other to where we can work on techniques and work
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Speaker 1: on the scheme and the entire scheme against the defense.
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Speaker 1: So but it's just as dun Morone said many times,
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Speaker 1: there's nothing normal about this year, and everything is new
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Speaker 1: and everybody's just gonna have to adapt to the jobs.
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Speaker 1: And part of that adjustment is a new offense too.
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Speaker 1: I mean that's they're in the midst of being on
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Speaker 1: the field for the first time. Though they can't you know,
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Speaker 1: they can run eleven, but they can't run against the defense.
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Speaker 1: So they're trying to work some things in. But it's
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Speaker 1: hard to do everything in a new offense right now. Long.
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Speaker 1: So we heard from Jay Gruden, the offensive coordinator, earlier
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Speaker 1: this week and he was asked, in fact, you know
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Speaker 1: how far along is this offense and how far is
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Speaker 1: left to go? I'm gonna not speak for you out
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Speaker 1: of respect for him. He's earned the right. He he
3:34
Speaker 1: played his contract out, he played four years, and he's
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Speaker 1: earned the right to do what's best for him and
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Speaker 1: his family. And you know, obviously he's a guy that
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Speaker 1: we know what he brings to the table. His coaches
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Speaker 1: love him, his teammates love him. We all, you know,
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Speaker 1: we love love his energy, The fan base loves him.
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Speaker 1: So you know, ideally we would love to have him here.
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Speaker 1: But I'll let him speak on his behalf of of
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Speaker 1: what's going on. And um, I know he's uh making
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Speaker 1: some calculated decisions. We'll hear from Jake Bruden coming up
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Speaker 1: in just a minute. That, of course, was Dave called
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Speaker 1: Well discussing Unique in Gockway. And that's another situation, Lise.
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Speaker 1: It's happening this week. Reportedly Unique and Dockway part of
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Speaker 1: Ways with his agent again. So and Dave called Well
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Speaker 1: spoke with Unique and got way. What do you think
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Speaker 1: this means? Is this a good sign or is this
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Speaker 1: just another day in the life. I don't think it
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Speaker 1: really means anything, to be honest with you. The one
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Speaker 1: thing here that I will say, because I got a
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Speaker 1: lot of respecration Dockways, the player. I thought that the
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Speaker 1: way things were handled by him and his cap it
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Speaker 1: wasn't very good. Um, you don't criticize an an owner
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Speaker 1: of an NFL team, which is what and Gockway did
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Speaker 1: with Tony Kahn. Uh, you don't publicly question the organization
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Speaker 1: and a public warm I didn't understand that unless you're
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Speaker 1: I mean Jamal Adams. I guess. I mean it seems
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Speaker 1: that it's it's not isolated to just the Goockway situation,
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Speaker 1: but in my opinion, with the economics of the NFL
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Speaker 1: and the way things are right now, with the global
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Speaker 1: pandemic and a salary cap that's sure to be lowered
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Speaker 1: significantly in future years. Boy, I, if I'm a Gockway,
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Speaker 1: I'm probably looking back at that situation last year ago. Man,
5:27
Speaker 1: I probably should have taken that opportunity at the extension
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Speaker 1: because I don't know if I'm gonna be able to
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Speaker 1: get that much money going forward. Was that part of
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Speaker 1: the thought process as to why he changed agents. I
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Speaker 1: don't know that, and Gockway is the only one that
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Speaker 1: knows the answer to that. But I would certainly be
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Speaker 1: having second thoughts and would be second guessing the decision
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Speaker 1: to turn that contract down at this point. Now, let's
5:55
Speaker 1: get to the offense. We promised Jay Gruden and he
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Speaker 1: was asked this week, you know how far along is
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Speaker 1: this offensive installation and how far is left to go.
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Speaker 1: We're still in diapers right now. You know, we got
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Speaker 1: a long way to go. But uh, I'm excited about
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Speaker 1: the guys. First of all, you gotta have guys that
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Speaker 1: are willing to learn and willing to work. And I
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Speaker 1: feel like the mentality of this football team. Coach Maron
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Speaker 1: does a great job of setting the tone for this team.
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Speaker 1: And and these guys have come in and uh, they
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Speaker 1: don't act like they know it all or had done
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Speaker 1: blah blah blah. They they're willing to learn and do
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Speaker 1: things the way we want to do things now. Alright,
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Speaker 1: J Gruden the new offensive coordinator. And you know how
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Speaker 1: much can you really do in this time frame right
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Speaker 1: now until you get into past, There's not a lot
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Speaker 1: that can truly be done. Right. Well, first of all,
6:44
Speaker 1: the reference to still being in diapers was classic. It
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Speaker 1: It's awesome. Uh. I think Gruden's got a little way
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Speaker 1: about them. I think both routens do that where they
6:54
Speaker 1: can entertain when they have a little bit of a
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Speaker 1: press conference. But when you're at where you're at as
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Speaker 1: an offense and as a football team where you're not
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Speaker 1: even practicing offense against defense, absolutely you're still in diapers,
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Speaker 1: especially since you didn't have any O t s, you
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Speaker 1: didn't have any mini camps, you had nothing to develop
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Speaker 1: your offense with. So they're still at the very early
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Speaker 1: stages with this offense. And it's I don't want to
7:20
Speaker 1: say it's comical, but it's it's kind of interesting to
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Speaker 1: see when he gets asked a question about, hey, how
7:24
Speaker 1: does a guy look? Well, I mean, I don't want
7:28
Speaker 1: to say this is the underwear Olympics, but I mean
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Speaker 1: they haven't had an opportunity to evaluate their personnel against
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Speaker 1: other people, so they've got a long way to goo um.
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Speaker 1: And I want to say this about Gruten. He is
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Speaker 1: fun to listen to and in a lot of ways,
7:43
Speaker 1: I was thinking back to that that movie I think
7:47
Speaker 1: it was Bull Durham was a Nu Laluche's right, Gruden
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Speaker 1: is he has got he has got some cliche and
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Speaker 1: I'm telling you he uses them all. Write this down, right,
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Speaker 1: which is one of the good stuff, greatest scenes of
8:06
Speaker 1: a movie ever. Kevin calls just just write it down,
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Speaker 1: just write it down, and so Gruden when he was
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Speaker 1: doing it, I think it was about JP like a
8:16
Speaker 1: twenty minute conversation with the media. Ballpark is somewhere in
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Speaker 1: there maybe eighteen minutes and uh and he you know,
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Speaker 1: and he's trying to be helpful, but I mean, the
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Speaker 1: simple answer to a lot of the questions is like, guys,
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Speaker 1: we we've just started, you know, we're we've acclimated, we're
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Speaker 1: just conditioning. We haven't even really practiced yet, So what
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Speaker 1: do you want me to say? So, I mean, I mean,
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Speaker 1: the the perfect phrasing by Gruden with the answers on
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Speaker 1: a lot of those situations. It was just flat out
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Speaker 1: entertaining for me anyway. And I think we'll have some
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Speaker 1: fun with Gruden throughout the year, hearing from him on
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Speaker 1: a weekly basis. On game weeks at least, the coordinators
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Speaker 1: are made available each and every week he is coordinating
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Speaker 1: an offense with a second your quarterback and Gardner minshew.
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Speaker 1: But it has been a while since Gardner has been
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Speaker 1: in this type of situation as the starting quarterback. Going
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Speaker 1: into a training camp and going into the season for
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Speaker 1: Gardner has been a long time. I actually haven't had
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Speaker 1: a camp like this going into it since I guess
9:20
Speaker 1: my senior year of high school. So it's it's it's
9:22
Speaker 1: it's awesome. Um, you know, kind of just being with
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Speaker 1: the guys and trying to figure out how we you know,
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Speaker 1: what we want to be as a team, because we
9:30
Speaker 1: get to define that right now. There's a group of
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Speaker 1: the group of guys on this team, group of leaders
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Speaker 1: that have a very real opportunity to change culture here,
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Speaker 1: to develop a winning culture. Um, and I think it's
9:40
Speaker 1: already starting. Yeah, I think about that, Logs. The last
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Speaker 1: time he was the starting quarterback going into a season
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Speaker 1: was high school. That's crazy, but it makes a lot
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Speaker 1: of sense because that college career was he took the
9:55
Speaker 1: scenic route. I would guess you would say in his
9:57
Speaker 1: college career going to a bunch of different places. You
10:00
Speaker 1: have a bunch of different places now East Carolina Junior
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Speaker 1: College and until the West Coast. I mean, holy cow,
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Speaker 1: he's been all over the place. But make no mistake,
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Speaker 1: Gardner Minshill, I don't think feels comfortable, nor should he
10:14
Speaker 1: feel comfortable. You know, he played ten games as a rookie.
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Speaker 1: I mean that's it. I mean so um And he
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Speaker 1: talked about changing the culture and he said he feels
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Speaker 1: like he's starting to change it now and and that's
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Speaker 1: the positive and that he feels that way. But the
10:29
Speaker 1: reality is there's a there's a lot of steps that
10:32
Speaker 1: you have to accomplish and meet before you say, okay,
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Speaker 1: we're changing the culture, because what are you trying to change?
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Speaker 1: I mean, if it's just wins and losses, Uh, then
10:44
Speaker 1: you gotta be able to put games together in the
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Speaker 1: W column to say that you've changed the culture. But
10:48
Speaker 1: there's a lot of things also that go into changing
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Speaker 1: the culture. But it's got to come from the players.
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Speaker 1: You know, playing played the game for a long time,
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Speaker 1: and it's not very often that culture change can come
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Speaker 1: just from the coaching staff. It's got to be a
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Speaker 1: joint effort, and you've got to have some strong leadership
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Speaker 1: in the locker room and hopefully Gardner Minshew in a
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Speaker 1: second year can then provide some of that because it's
11:12
Speaker 1: not easy for young players to provide leadership in a
11:15
Speaker 1: locker room. Sometimes it takes them a few years to
11:19
Speaker 1: pay some dues and have success in the league for
11:22
Speaker 1: them to have that leadership type of of of ability.
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Speaker 1: You've gotta have success and you've got to be a
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Speaker 1: good player before you can be a leader. I believe
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Speaker 1: in any NFL locker room and and looks this is
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Speaker 1: the challenge the great challenge not just for the offense,
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Speaker 1: but for this team as a whole. We've we've talked
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Speaker 1: about it all offseason, how young this football team is,
11:42
Speaker 1: how new this football team is, right, not just the
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Speaker 1: youth and the rookies that are in, but the free
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Speaker 1: agent additions. Some familiar faces in the last two three
11:51
Speaker 1: years are now moved on. They were leadership in that
11:54
Speaker 1: locker room in some instances. It's a lot of turnover,
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Speaker 1: not just with rookies coming in, but with free agents
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Speaker 1: coming in and and who's going to climb to the
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Speaker 1: top of the mountain and if you will, in terms
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Speaker 1: of leadership, that's that's a huge challenge overall, not just
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Speaker 1: for the offense, but this entire football team. Who's gonna
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Speaker 1: step up well? And the change hasn't stopped I mean right,
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Speaker 1: I mean the defense. The v defensive line I think
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Speaker 1: is a perfect example of that. And they've had some
12:23
Speaker 1: injury issues along the defensive front um. Now you're looking
12:27
Speaker 1: at trying to sign guys that are on the street
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Speaker 1: and some veteran guys that are going to be available
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Speaker 1: in the next couple of days to be able to
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Speaker 1: practice with the Jaguars, and so uh, it's it's never
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Speaker 1: any process, and it's never good when you have you know,
12:43
Speaker 1: you have two guys that opted out before you even
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Speaker 1: got the training camp, and then now that you've gotten
12:47
Speaker 1: training camp, you put two guys on I R. And
12:50
Speaker 1: then you have another guy with the non football illness
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Speaker 1: that can't practice and coach says, don't even ask me
12:55
Speaker 1: for the next five or six days about where he's at.
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Speaker 1: You know. So, I mean if it's a constant process,
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Speaker 1: and it's a big challenge for this team because look,
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Speaker 1: you you've had a lot of change already and now
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Speaker 1: you have even more change with this defensive front. Uh. Boy,
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Speaker 1: it's unfortunately they haven't gotten to practices where they're in
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Speaker 1: pad yet. Boy, when you get the pads, you would
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Speaker 1: like to think their hope that your football team can
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Speaker 1: be as a as a group, healthy and available for
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13:36
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Speaker 1: So it's gonna be interesting this year for sure. I
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Speaker 1: think the team that adapts to this new system the
17:55
Speaker 1: best is gonna especially out of the gates in the season,
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Speaker 1: UM be performing the best. So I think we have
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Speaker 1: a good squad on the defense. The guys have been
18:02
Speaker 1: into it, been locked in, been been enjoying themselves, to
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Speaker 1: having fun out they're playing football and hopefully that'll be
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Speaker 1: able to take us the right way. Joe Schobert, the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars middle linebacker, acquired a free agency in this offseason
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Speaker 1: and welcome back Jaguars Happy Hour J P. Shadrick, Jeff Lagerman,
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Speaker 1: and Tony Poselli is coming up at four thirty, so
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Speaker 1: about twelve minutes or so from Big Bow. You know,
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Speaker 1: Schobert's um You know, I don't think he's talked about enough. Now.
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Speaker 1: We haven't seen them in pads or anything yet in
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Speaker 1: full go on defense logs, but you know he's he's
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Speaker 1: the middle linebacker. He's the one that's gonna be calling
18:43
Speaker 1: the plays and the quarterback of the defense here. And
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Speaker 1: I don't think he's been as um covered I think
18:51
Speaker 1: in media as he probably should. But I think he
18:53
Speaker 1: will at some point. I think he's gonna turn some heads.
18:55
Speaker 1: Hopefully we'll turn some heads once real football starts. Well,
18:59
Speaker 1: you hope, and you hope, you hope that you get
19:00
Speaker 1: some resolution to what's happening up in in front of him,
19:04
Speaker 1: because you know, we we were expecting for Joe Schulbert,
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Speaker 1: have Alt Woods and Avery Jones and and other guys
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Speaker 1: that but now some are are unavailable because they're injured.
19:17
Speaker 1: So you hope that you can get some type of
19:19
Speaker 1: production up in front to allow Joe Schulbert and Miles
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Speaker 1: Jack to be as good as they can be so
19:27
Speaker 1: interesting though. And I don't know if you happen to
19:30
Speaker 1: catch this with Joe Schulbert's press conference. I'm sure you did,
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Speaker 1: but I thought it was really interesting because you here's
19:36
Speaker 1: a new guy coming from another team that typically would
19:40
Speaker 1: have all of the off season workouts. He left weights
19:44
Speaker 1: with his teammates, get the noah his teammates, and have
19:48
Speaker 1: practices with his teammates, and then eat lunch and dinner
19:52
Speaker 1: and breakfast and all, I mean, all those things that
19:54
Speaker 1: you that you do to bond with your teammates, and
19:57
Speaker 1: he had none of it. And so all of a sudden,
20:00
Speaker 1: out you start training camp late and you walk in
20:03
Speaker 1: the door and you haven't ever really met anybody in person,
20:08
Speaker 1: and now everybody's wearing masks, and so I was kind
20:13
Speaker 1: of chuckled j P when Joe said, it's a challenge
20:17
Speaker 1: in that when you go into a new building and
20:19
Speaker 1: you meet people, but you're meeting this excuse my my
20:24
Speaker 1: tone here, you know, and so you don't even get
20:26
Speaker 1: to see their whole face. And so he said, it's
20:28
Speaker 1: a challenge to meet people and get to know them
20:31
Speaker 1: and to actually see who what they really look like
20:33
Speaker 1: completely because everybody's wearing a mask. I just thought that
20:36
Speaker 1: that was I thought it was insightful because I mean,
20:40
Speaker 1: here's a guy that's a new guy that's trying to
20:42
Speaker 1: find his way in the locker room, and a new
20:44
Speaker 1: locker room at that, and it's all all these circumstances
20:49
Speaker 1: are surrounded. I thought that that was a pretty deep
20:53
Speaker 1: thought by Joe Schobert. And uh, and here's a guy
20:56
Speaker 1: that I'm sure it was happy to get started here
20:58
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville after going through living in the basement of
21:02
Speaker 1: his in laws, I think is where he was at
21:04
Speaker 1: prior to coming to Jacksonville. So I'm sure that that
21:07
Speaker 1: was one of those moments we were like, yes, we're
21:10
Speaker 1: out of the inlog basement. Yeah, he mentioned that at
21:13
Speaker 1: his press conference the other day. I think it was
21:16
Speaker 1: a mutual agreement that, uh, you know, it's probably a
21:19
Speaker 1: good thing to get out of the basement. The parents
21:22
Speaker 1: were probably like, yeah, you guys need to go on
21:23
Speaker 1: and find your own place to two Way Street there.
21:26
Speaker 1: Obviously on the defensive side of your lives, we've we've
21:30
Speaker 1: harped on it a lot, but it's there's a reason why,
21:33
Speaker 1: because it's the main reason this defense struggled last year
21:36
Speaker 1: was they couldn't stop to run, certainly in the second
21:39
Speaker 1: half of that season and that stretch of two yard
21:42
Speaker 1: plus games against this defense. Avery Jones met the media today,
21:46
Speaker 1: the big nose tackle who's been here for eight years now.
21:50
Speaker 1: He was an undrafted player, the most tenured current Jaguar,
21:54
Speaker 1: and he was asked about that run defense. How do
21:57
Speaker 1: they improve it starting right now? Attention to detail. I mean,
22:03
Speaker 1: we saw a lot of things where we was probably
22:06
Speaker 1: in position to make up play, but little things like
22:09
Speaker 1: hand placement, keeping our shoulders square kept us from doing that.
22:12
Speaker 1: And then really just have to put it on our shoulders.
22:15
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm telling the guys that we lost people
22:18
Speaker 1: off this d line. Uh, the outside noise is expecting
22:23
Speaker 1: us to drop off, and we just have to use
22:25
Speaker 1: that to motivate ourselves. I mean, we watch film every
22:28
Speaker 1: day and everyone felt like they have a chip on
22:30
Speaker 1: their shoulder because they know they're a better player than that.
22:35
Speaker 1: Abrey Jones has been around here for a long time
22:37
Speaker 1: and a big piece of that Jaguars defensive front. It is,
22:41
Speaker 1: as we've mentioned, a different looking defensive front. He mentioned
22:44
Speaker 1: that there he knows how much turnover there has been,
22:47
Speaker 1: but that's where this thing starts. Attention to detail. What
22:50
Speaker 1: does he mean by that, Well, most importantly is that
22:55
Speaker 1: you know you got to do your own job. I
22:57
Speaker 1: mean there were instances last year to where you had
23:00
Speaker 1: guys that weren't taking care of their responsibility. Because run
23:03
Speaker 1: defense it is not rocket science. I mean it's really
23:08
Speaker 1: it's not. Um it's a gap defense and you're in
23:12
Speaker 1: your gap, and if you're I have somebody that doesn't
23:15
Speaker 1: do their job and is out of their gap, then
23:19
Speaker 1: you can't stop the run. And when Aby's talking about
23:23
Speaker 1: attention to detail, a lot of times guys vacate their
23:26
Speaker 1: gap for whatever reason. But you always have to make
23:30
Speaker 1: sure that you do your job first and then after
23:33
Speaker 1: that then you can go ahead and float to another
23:35
Speaker 1: gap to maybe help out somebody else that's just getting
23:38
Speaker 1: beat physically, which happens in the National Football League. So, UM,
23:43
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a big challenge for this
23:45
Speaker 1: Jaguars defensive. I mean, al Woods was expected to be
23:49
Speaker 1: a big part of this run defense, a big, strong, physical,
23:54
Speaker 1: run stuffing type player that has a lot of games
23:59
Speaker 1: under his belt. And and and I'm gonna be honest
24:01
Speaker 1: with you, JP, I thought his film from last year
24:05
Speaker 1: was tremendous. I mean I'm talking tremendous when you know
24:09
Speaker 1: he didn't play a ton of staff, but when he
24:10
Speaker 1: did play, he was really good. And I thought it
24:14
Speaker 1: was gonna be a big boost to this Jaguars run
24:16
Speaker 1: defense having him. And then when he decided to opt out,
24:19
Speaker 1: which totally understand and totally respect his decision, but that's
24:23
Speaker 1: a big blow to this Jaguars football team. And and
24:26
Speaker 1: now you've you've got the defensive tackle that they signed
24:29
Speaker 1: from the Arizona Cardinals who has the non football illness,
24:33
Speaker 1: which uh Ronnie Gunner. I mean, that's that's tough. I mean,
24:37
Speaker 1: he's he was the other expected upgrade along your defensive front.
24:41
Speaker 1: And that's the type of and that's the guy that
24:44
Speaker 1: you're expecting to be a run stuffing type of guy.
24:48
Speaker 1: And then Dante Vius Russell, who they kept last year,
24:51
Speaker 1: uh nose tackle, undrafted guy or seventh round pick, he
24:55
Speaker 1: was anyways a late type of prospect. I mean, he's
24:58
Speaker 1: another guy that was expected to pa posibly help. Now
25:00
Speaker 1: what can Karnweed and Carl Davison Josh Morrow do well.
25:04
Speaker 1: I Mean, here's the reality they were. They were on
25:08
Speaker 1: the Street for a reason, and if they were considered
25:12
Speaker 1: to be A plus players, they would have had a contract.
25:15
Speaker 1: There's only a few of those guys that are out
25:17
Speaker 1: there that you can say they're unsigned and they're still
25:20
Speaker 1: an A plus type of player, and one of those
25:22
Speaker 1: being Clowney. And I think Clowney is a wonderful talent.
25:26
Speaker 1: I think any football team can be better against Runner,
25:30
Speaker 1: better defensively overall, but Jadavian Clowney on their football team. So, uh,
25:36
Speaker 1: take a flyer on him, maybe have a conversation about him.
25:40
Speaker 1: How expensive will never huh? How expensive would that be? Lugs?
25:47
Speaker 1: That's the question. That's it's it's gonna be pretty expensive,
25:50
Speaker 1: you know. And and here's the other thing. Doesn't even
25:53
Speaker 1: want to come to play for your football team? You know? Uh,
25:57
Speaker 1: Clowney is you know, that's that's the beauty of being
25:59
Speaker 1: a free agent. And you know you can you can
26:01
Speaker 1: make that decision based on money. You can make that
26:04
Speaker 1: decision based on personal preference. And look, you may not
26:08
Speaker 1: like the team's colors and say, you know what, I
26:10
Speaker 1: don't want to play for that team because I don't
26:12
Speaker 1: like teal or he may say, you know what, I
26:14
Speaker 1: loved till I look good in till I want to
26:16
Speaker 1: play for the Jaguars. You don't know, but but my
26:19
Speaker 1: point is that it's there's very few people that you
26:22
Speaker 1: can sign at this stage of the game that you
26:26
Speaker 1: upgrade your roster. There's just they're just not many. I
26:29
Speaker 1: thought the Dallas Cowboys did a pretty good job. They
26:33
Speaker 1: signed Griffin Everything. Griffin, the defensive end who played for
26:36
Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings. Still a productive player, still was close
26:39
Speaker 1: to double digit sacks last year, has been a Pro
26:42
Speaker 1: Bowl type player and has passed, and they got him
26:44
Speaker 1: for a reasonable deal. Now, Clowney is you know it's
26:47
Speaker 1: gonna be a little bit, a little bit more than
26:50
Speaker 1: than that reasonable type of deal that Griffin got. You know,
26:55
Speaker 1: most players, I would think their favorite color is money green,
27:00
Speaker 1: first of all, um, and then second, you know, I'm
27:03
Speaker 1: on the practice field yesterday, first day out, first day
27:06
Speaker 1: in helmets. Uh, you know, the pr staff, everybody's doing
27:09
Speaker 1: a great job keeping everybody distance, getting us in there
27:12
Speaker 1: to begin with. But I'm looking at the roster right
27:14
Speaker 1: we're talking about the defensive line, and there are teen
27:17
Speaker 1: defensive linemen listed on the roster, and look up, fourteen
27:23
Speaker 1: listed as defensive lineman right. So I look up at
27:27
Speaker 1: defensive line drills and I see seven bodies. I'm like,
27:33
Speaker 1: where the heck of the other guys? Well, one of them,
27:36
Speaker 1: I think Cassius Marsh was running around with the linebackers.
27:40
Speaker 1: That happens occasionally, you know, Um, let me to stop
27:44
Speaker 1: you right there. Cassius Marsh is not a defensive lineman.
27:49
Speaker 1: You know. He may put his hand in the ground
27:51
Speaker 1: as a substitutional pass rusher, but he is not a
27:56
Speaker 1: defensive man. I mean, he could in a in a pinch,
27:59
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh my god, if we only had
28:01
Speaker 1: seven guys active on game day and we need Cassius
28:04
Speaker 1: Marsh to end up being maybe an extra defensive end
28:08
Speaker 1: if need being an emergency situation, he could be that guy.
28:10
Speaker 1: But he's not a defensive end. He's a he's a backer.
28:13
Speaker 1: He's a stand up guy. It's interesting, though, that kind
28:16
Speaker 1: of tells you that the lay of the land yesterday
28:18
Speaker 1: when you had three guys who had just signed but
28:20
Speaker 1: they couldn't go to the practice field yet because they're
28:23
Speaker 1: still doing COVID testing. You had other guys injured, I mean,
28:26
Speaker 1: was that's the way it was at least the first
28:29
Speaker 1: day out. But it's kind of evened up a little
28:31
Speaker 1: bit now, and I think that that brings up, you know,
28:34
Speaker 1: another point that I think that the league, in my opinion,
28:38
Speaker 1: needs to take a pretty serious look at. And Okay,
28:42
Speaker 1: so let's say the Jaguars have a rash of injuries
28:46
Speaker 1: in the middle of the season, or you have a
28:49
Speaker 1: room that becomes infected. Right, so, uh, let's say five
28:55
Speaker 1: guys are unavailable or an offensive line group is unavailable. Well,
29:00
Speaker 1: you've upgraded the practice squad to sixteen, And in my opinion,
29:07
Speaker 1: why not bigger than that? I mean, I mean, here
29:10
Speaker 1: we are. We've we've been talking about how it's gonna
29:14
Speaker 1: be tough for a lot of younger players to be
29:16
Speaker 1: able to make an NFL roster this year, and you're
29:19
Speaker 1: not gonna be able to see them for a lot
29:21
Speaker 1: of time in training camp. Well, okay, if we're trying
29:25
Speaker 1: to develop guys to be able to be future players
29:27
Speaker 1: in the National Football League, let's continue to develop them.
29:31
Speaker 1: And let's also give ourselves a little extra insurance policy
29:35
Speaker 1: because you know what, if all of sudden, you can't
29:37
Speaker 1: fulfill a deficiency in the middle of the season by
29:41
Speaker 1: just with guys off of your practice squad. What are
29:44
Speaker 1: you gonna do. Well, you can't go and bring a
29:47
Speaker 1: guy out the street and have him playing in two days,
29:50
Speaker 1: because he's gonna have to go through the COVID testing
29:53
Speaker 1: to be able to be ready to go for a game.
29:56
Speaker 1: So in my and look and practice squad guys. And look,
29:59
Speaker 1: I'm not saying in at the NFL, uh can just
30:02
Speaker 1: spend oodles of money, but I think they can afford
30:04
Speaker 1: to pay maybe a few more extra practice squad guys.
30:07
Speaker 1: And now, I guarantee if you went to the coaching
30:10
Speaker 1: staffs of every NFL team, not one of them would
30:13
Speaker 1: be against would be against having twenty let's say, on
30:18
Speaker 1: the practice squad. Why not? Yeah, I bet not. It's
30:23
Speaker 1: up to sixteen now, and let's come back in a
30:25
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Speaker 1: Last year, I was just trying to get on the field.
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Speaker 1: Um even at this point. I don't even think I
34:29
Speaker 1: was clear at this point last year, and when I
34:32
Speaker 1: did get clear, to end up having another injury, so
34:34
Speaker 1: um to me. For me, it's like night and day
34:37
Speaker 1: finally being able to be healthy. Um, so I'm looking
34:40
Speaker 1: forward to it. Cam Robinson, Jaguars Left Tackle, met with
34:46
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34:49
Speaker 1: our J P. Shadrick from the home studio, Jeff Lockman
34:53
Speaker 1: from his home studio and in parts unknown speaking of
34:57
Speaker 1: my tackles, Tony but Ellie joins us. First of all,
35:03
Speaker 1: they say something Japan, you can't read, So what are
35:07
Speaker 1: you all those books behind you for well to read? No,
35:12
Speaker 1: you don't read, though I can read, but you don't.
35:18
Speaker 1: I can't read. Okay, Well, this isn't going anywhere. I
35:23
Speaker 1: just I think it's funny that everybody in today's world
35:25
Speaker 1: that is doing these like home podcasts or like virtual
35:29
Speaker 1: shows like we are because of coronavirus. I love like
35:32
Speaker 1: looking at the set us behind them because they have
35:35
Speaker 1: like these books and all these fancy things. I'm like,
35:39
Speaker 1: come on, you know they had their wives. I guarantee
35:41
Speaker 1: you Jeff and Tera come in and set up the
35:44
Speaker 1: back office so it looks like he's like really like
35:46
Speaker 1: sophisticated his leather chair with pictures and like he has
35:50
Speaker 1: his he has his Virginia diploma up. They need to
35:53
Speaker 1: pull out of the attic and dust off, and I mean,
35:56
Speaker 1: it's so like, this is my office. I don't I
35:59
Speaker 1: didn't have any up setting this up. The only the
36:03
Speaker 1: only thing I did put in my office that's different
36:05
Speaker 1: than what I would normally have the helmets right in
36:08
Speaker 1: the middle of the day. Everything everything else is what
36:12
Speaker 1: it is. Well, like I believe that because Jeff's pretty
36:15
Speaker 1: organized in pretty detail anyways, But like JP, I guarantee
36:19
Speaker 1: you he went out and bought a bunch of books
36:21
Speaker 1: off Amazon to put in his bookshelf, so he looks
36:24
Speaker 1: like he's smart. I've had them, I haven't opened them
36:28
Speaker 1: in years, but they've been around in boxes, they're around
36:32
Speaker 1: and now I can put them to use. So let's
36:34
Speaker 1: move forward here. Let's move forward. Here we heard from
36:37
Speaker 1: Cam Robinson there at the top, Tony, Let's get right
36:40
Speaker 1: to it, man. It's uh, Cam Robinson coming off the
36:44
Speaker 1: knee last year's you heard him say it was it's
36:47
Speaker 1: night and day this year to last year, he wasn't
36:49
Speaker 1: even cleared yet at this time a season ago, and
36:52
Speaker 1: he said he really didn't feel normal until like the
36:55
Speaker 1: last five games of the season. Um, but that's kind
36:59
Speaker 1: of what I think we were talking about all year
37:01
Speaker 1: with Cam Robinson. What can you expect now from Cam?
37:05
Speaker 1: And then we'll get to Will Richardson in just a moment.
37:07
Speaker 1: What did you make of Ham's comments there? Yeah, let
37:11
Speaker 1: me let me just start pretty preface, like there's like
37:14
Speaker 1: a doubt there's very many people in this organization or
37:18
Speaker 1: this team or the city that are rooting harder than
37:20
Speaker 1: I am for Cam Robinson because I really like Cam.
37:22
Speaker 1: I think he's a big, physical guy, that man. He
37:25
Speaker 1: brings its nasty of meanness to that group that they
37:28
Speaker 1: need um and I love that he feels better for
37:34
Speaker 1: me though, it's gonna be like the proof is gonna
37:35
Speaker 1: be in the pudding when we're gonna watch tape and
37:38
Speaker 1: we'll watch practice and everything else. Then we get into
37:40
Speaker 1: the games. Does he revert to his bad habits, Does
37:44
Speaker 1: he revert to his poor footwork? Because this was not
37:46
Speaker 1: a knee issue, this was pre knee. He had some
37:50
Speaker 1: footwork issues. Now he's such a big, powerful athletic man
37:53
Speaker 1: he can get away with it. And now it was
37:56
Speaker 1: exasperated last year because of the no doubt about it,
37:58
Speaker 1: and I get know what he was experiencing. I've been
38:01
Speaker 1: through it and it takes time to jeffs as well.
38:04
Speaker 1: It takes you time to get back to feeling like
38:06
Speaker 1: two year old self. But I still go back to
38:09
Speaker 1: For me, I'm watching his feet. I'm watching this technique because,
38:13
Speaker 1: in my opinion, Jeff, this was a pre knee issue.
38:17
Speaker 1: Um that I hope he cleans it up for a
38:19
Speaker 1: lot of reasons. One, I love to have a left tackle,
38:21
Speaker 1: franchise left tackle, and I think Camber obviously gonna be that.
38:23
Speaker 1: And then for him individually, big year because he's gonna
38:26
Speaker 1: be a free and if he does figure it out,
38:28
Speaker 1: go look at Laramie Tunsel's contract of twenty two million
38:31
Speaker 1: bucks a year. He's gonna get paid and I'm always
38:34
Speaker 1: for guys getting paid. Well, he's not gonna approach that
38:37
Speaker 1: category just because Larrymie Tunsil has been able to do it,
38:39
Speaker 1: you know, year after year after year. But I mean
38:41
Speaker 1: Cam has an opportunity to be able to to take
38:44
Speaker 1: care of himself significantly. And Tony right, and that the
38:48
Speaker 1: feet issue or if defeat issues that he's had didn't
38:52
Speaker 1: just show up because of the knee injury he had
38:54
Speaker 1: him before. They were probably exacerbated a little bit last
38:58
Speaker 1: year because of the knee injury. And it's kind of
39:00
Speaker 1: sometimes hard. I've been there, Tony, You've been there. It's
39:03
Speaker 1: hard to work on technique when you're just trying to
39:05
Speaker 1: find a way to get through the practice, you know. So,
39:08
Speaker 1: and he's got a good offensive line coach and coach Warhop.
39:11
Speaker 1: If there's anybody that's gonna be able to coach the
39:13
Speaker 1: technique in the in the Cam, it's gonna be coach Warhop.
39:16
Speaker 1: So and I'm with Tony. I hope that he is
39:20
Speaker 1: able to find the groove. I'm hope he's able to
39:22
Speaker 1: improve because I love him, and what I love about
39:25
Speaker 1: him is he is a dominant run blocker at times.
39:29
Speaker 1: And there's not many left tackles that are playing at
39:32
Speaker 1: the NFL level right now that you sit there and
39:34
Speaker 1: you go, dang, that guy can run block and look
39:37
Speaker 1: at him finish five, you know, five yards down the
39:40
Speaker 1: field on a guy. But Cam is one of those guys. Now, look,
39:43
Speaker 1: Will had did an impressive job when he was in there,
39:47
Speaker 1: and I think this is a great situation that Look,
39:50
Speaker 1: competition is a beautiful thing, and it will make both
39:54
Speaker 1: guys better by having them compete against each other for
39:57
Speaker 1: that playing time. So let's see it. Let's see the
39:59
Speaker 1: comp Titian, let it begin. Yeah, let me and I'll
40:02
Speaker 1: say this. Let's pick up on that thread. Jeff Um.
40:05
Speaker 1: I never understood last year why they didn't give Will
40:08
Speaker 1: rich is In the chance to compete for the job
40:11
Speaker 1: throughout the year when when Cam was obviously not obviously
40:15
Speaker 1: was struggling at times Um with technique and his knee
40:18
Speaker 1: and his strength and everything else. And I I was
40:21
Speaker 1: thoroughly impressed for a guy who was asked about two
40:24
Speaker 1: days before opening day to go kick out the left
40:27
Speaker 1: tackle position you've never played before. And I thought he
40:30
Speaker 1: played in the two games, the two games that he played,
40:32
Speaker 1: I thought he was good. I thought he saw it.
40:34
Speaker 1: Now everyone go back to it. He got beat for
40:36
Speaker 1: a sack, and you have in two games he gave
40:39
Speaker 1: up like three pressures in a sack. Okay, great, that
40:43
Speaker 1: happens you're playing from behind. I mean, all kinds of
40:46
Speaker 1: things happened, and you know that as well as I do, Jeff.
40:48
Speaker 1: But if you watch him on tape and you watch
40:50
Speaker 1: his technique like he's not a guard, Let's be clear.
40:53
Speaker 1: I don't think he's a guard. He is a He
40:56
Speaker 1: can play you the tackle position, and I'm I for
40:59
Speaker 1: one thought he'd get a shot last year to kick
41:01
Speaker 1: out the left tackle and compete with Cam. And I'm
41:03
Speaker 1: glad they're giving him the chance now, and I do
41:04
Speaker 1: think it'll make Cam better. Tony. What did he play
41:09
Speaker 1: in college? Though? Right tackle? You're around him a bit.
41:12
Speaker 1: He was a right tackle in college pretty much dominant right. Yeah,
41:16
Speaker 1: that's all you ever? So did he so I'm not mistaken.
41:20
Speaker 1: I know at NC State he never took a snap
41:22
Speaker 1: at left tackle. I think it was all the way
41:24
Speaker 1: back to high school. He'd never been a left hander.
41:26
Speaker 1: Stands um, I mean he was a he was a
41:30
Speaker 1: right tackle. Only they drafted him they thought he could
41:33
Speaker 1: play some guard. Um. I don't think he's a natural guard.
41:35
Speaker 1: He's pretty long, and I think the suddenness sometimes gets
41:38
Speaker 1: on top of him a little bit quick in the
41:40
Speaker 1: past game. I think he can run block as a guard. Um.
41:43
Speaker 1: I think he's better at space, which would lean him
41:46
Speaker 1: towards the tackle position. And um, I was shocked, for
41:49
Speaker 1: one that he was as effective as he was uh
41:53
Speaker 1: in that opening game last year and even the first
41:55
Speaker 1: two games at left tackle, for having never done it
41:58
Speaker 1: and uh and with as he didn't get more rips
42:01
Speaker 1: at it when Cam was obviously struggling because coming back
42:03
Speaker 1: from the knee. Yeah, let me just add this too, though,
42:06
Speaker 1: I think from a from a coaching standpoint there, there's
42:09
Speaker 1: probably got to be a lot of comfort knowing that
42:12
Speaker 1: you know when you go into a game. Okay, Cam
42:14
Speaker 1: Robinson has been a left tackle his entire life and
42:17
Speaker 1: that's all he's ever played. Well, now that we've got
42:20
Speaker 1: Will Richardson, who he can play right tackle. He didn't college.
42:24
Speaker 1: He's proven to us that he's played left tackle. He
42:27
Speaker 1: competed for time at the right guard spot and can
42:30
Speaker 1: play guard. So I think from a comfort standpoint in
42:34
Speaker 1: the reality is, if you're in coaching, you want to
42:36
Speaker 1: be comfortable going into a game day and you feel
42:38
Speaker 1: really comfortable having Will Richardson as being your six guy
42:42
Speaker 1: or seventh guys. You got somebody else who was a
42:44
Speaker 1: backup center, but you feel really good about him having
42:47
Speaker 1: that flexibility to play multiple positions. Whereas, Okay, if all
42:51
Speaker 1: of a sudden, Will is your left tackle, he's got
42:53
Speaker 1: to be significantly better than Cam Robinson because you need
42:57
Speaker 1: to have a reason to take Cam Robinson. Okay, Now
43:00
Speaker 1: we need to train him to be able to be
43:03
Speaker 1: maybe that swing guy, and that's a lot to ask.
43:05
Speaker 1: So I think if this is a competition, then Will
43:09
Speaker 1: has to be significantly better, not just that much better,
43:13
Speaker 1: but that much better than Cam to be able to
43:17
Speaker 1: take him out of that swing role and insert him
43:19
Speaker 1: and as a starter. Let's come back. One final segment
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47:10
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47:13
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I just wanted to
47:14
Speaker 1: get that out there. You know, I'm not in a joke,
47:16
Speaker 1: but when it comes to football and winning, I'm all
47:19
Speaker 1: in for that. Leonard Fournette is not a jerk, he says.
47:26
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47:31
Speaker 1: I'm curious to see Leonard play this year. Obviously, you
47:33
Speaker 1: had a good year last year statistically, Um, you gotta
47:37
Speaker 1: get in the end zone a little bit more. But
47:39
Speaker 1: it's a contract year, and Tony, you know what that means, Um,
47:44
Speaker 1: if there isn't motivation before, which there always has been,
47:47
Speaker 1: there certainly is now for Leonard. You know, what was
47:51
Speaker 1: the context of him not being the jerk? I didn't
47:53
Speaker 1: What was the question, did you do something something? I
47:57
Speaker 1: think that in the off season off season there were
48:00
Speaker 1: in comments that maybe he was unhappy around here, and
48:02
Speaker 1: there was they were talking about trading him away. That
48:05
Speaker 1: was the storyline a little bit in the offseason, and
48:08
Speaker 1: that he was a little disruntled at times and he
48:10
Speaker 1: wanted to explain himself a little bit there. Yeah. I
48:14
Speaker 1: didn't understand that part, but okay, um, yeah, I mean, uh,
48:19
Speaker 1: it's a big air for him. I don't see him.
48:23
Speaker 1: I mean outside of something crazy happening like where he
48:25
Speaker 1: just goes crazy numbers, I don't see him. I think
48:28
Speaker 1: this is his last year as a Jacksonville Jaguar. Um.
48:31
Speaker 1: They didn't they didn't take the extra year and they
48:33
Speaker 1: didn't extended the fifth year. Uh. And it'll be interesting
48:38
Speaker 1: to see Jagrud's offense, you know, will he be the
48:42
Speaker 1: center point where last year I mean they gave him
48:44
Speaker 1: the ball and with the ricky quarterback, I mean, he
48:46
Speaker 1: was right everything, run, game, pass, game, you know, never
48:51
Speaker 1: came off the field unless he was hurt, like the
48:53
Speaker 1: last game when he couldn't play. So, um, it'll be interesting.
48:57
Speaker 1: But yeah, he's gonna be an important piece. This is
48:59
Speaker 1: a team that is pretty young. They're best players are
49:03
Speaker 1: you know, I mean as far as the guys who
49:04
Speaker 1: are explosive are outside. Um d J. Chark had a
49:07
Speaker 1: great year. Uh so no the rookie I mean, big, powerful,
49:11
Speaker 1: fast guy that they're going to count on. Um. So
49:14
Speaker 1: you have some really young guys, you know, big questions
49:16
Speaker 1: at the tight end with Tyler Eiffert, Um can he
49:19
Speaker 1: have you know, he's been injury riddled throughout the last
49:24
Speaker 1: several years of his career. And I say all that
49:25
Speaker 1: because so it circles me back to Leonard four Nette.
49:28
Speaker 1: I mean he has to have a big year for
49:29
Speaker 1: this team to be successful and to score points. I
49:33
Speaker 1: mean him obviously not most important. It's Carter Minshew, but
49:38
Speaker 1: he's pretty close up there because they're gonna need to
49:41
Speaker 1: find production, uh to score points in offense. Well, he's
49:45
Speaker 1: been one of the most consistent producers for this offense
49:48
Speaker 1: over the last couple of years. Is from from a
49:51
Speaker 1: production and touches standpoint, and he needs to be exactly that,
49:56
Speaker 1: especially this year for a couple of different reasons, some
49:59
Speaker 1: of them resid on his side of the ball. I
50:01
Speaker 1: mean partner Minshew being the first time starting quarterback. You've
50:05
Speaker 1: got a wide receiver group besides d J. Chart. I mean,
50:10
Speaker 1: and he did it for one year, one year only
50:13
Speaker 1: it's very unproven. You have a tight end group that.
50:17
Speaker 1: I will say this. I don't care if Tyler Eiffert
50:19
Speaker 1: was a veteran guy or not. He's unproven too because
50:22
Speaker 1: it hadn't proven injurious yeah that he hasn't can't stay
50:25
Speaker 1: on the field. He did it for one year last year.
50:27
Speaker 1: And I think the one thing of note watching his film,
50:31
Speaker 1: Tyler Eiffert's film is that once he got the ball,
50:34
Speaker 1: he didn't do a whole lot of exciting things with
50:37
Speaker 1: the ball in his hands. It was like he was
50:39
Speaker 1: in self preservation mode a little bit, looking to make
50:42
Speaker 1: sure that he didn't take any tough hits. So okay,
50:45
Speaker 1: so where are you going to get that electrics, you know,
50:49
Speaker 1: consistent performance from While I think Leonard Fordette has to
50:52
Speaker 1: be one of those guys, the offensive line has to
50:54
Speaker 1: be one of the guys because it also reaches to
50:56
Speaker 1: the other side of the ball, and that the Jaguars
50:59
Speaker 1: defense is under construction in time of possession and controlling
51:03
Speaker 1: the clock and keeping the defense off the field is
51:05
Speaker 1: going to be I think very important for this Jaguars
51:08
Speaker 1: defense until it confined a little bit of rhythm. I mean,
51:11
Speaker 1: here here's the crazy thing. A couple of years ago,
51:13
Speaker 1: we were talking about one of the best defenses in
51:17
Speaker 1: the league. Is this the best defense in the league?
51:20
Speaker 1: And now we're talking about the importance of an offensive
51:23
Speaker 1: line and a running game to help maybe lessen the
51:26
Speaker 1: burden on this defense. But I mean, how things have
51:29
Speaker 1: changed for this Jaguars football team and a couple of
51:32
Speaker 1: years to go from that, you know, the elite of
51:34
Speaker 1: elite defenses in the National Football League to now having
51:38
Speaker 1: a lot of question marks across the board on the
51:41
Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball. Jeff, what's your biggest question?
51:44
Speaker 1: Let me just and I know where you want to
51:46
Speaker 1: go with this, JP, but I'm gonna just steer it myself.
51:49
Speaker 1: What is your biggest question? Because I think you bring
51:51
Speaker 1: up a great point. I mean, you look at both
51:53
Speaker 1: sides of the ball, um a lot of questions and
51:56
Speaker 1: offense and we always kind of just said, yeah, but
51:58
Speaker 1: the defense is good out there might be more questions
52:02
Speaker 1: on defense than they are on offensive. Oh, there absolutely,
52:04
Speaker 1: As I think, and as you look at that, what's
52:06
Speaker 1: your biggest what is your biggest question or concern on defense?
52:11
Speaker 1: I'll start with what what is the most important aspect
52:14
Speaker 1: of being a good defense the National Football League? And
52:17
Speaker 1: it's got to start and stopping to run. And we
52:19
Speaker 1: saw Tony you saw it last year. They had trouble
52:21
Speaker 1: stopping to run and stopping the run. You gotta be
52:24
Speaker 1: good in the middle. And when I say the middle,
52:26
Speaker 1: nose tackle, three technique inside linebackers because there's two and
52:31
Speaker 1: then safety. Um, are they strong at at that middle
52:36
Speaker 1: area on the defense? Well, you had one of your
52:40
Speaker 1: guys Outwood's opt out gunners on non football illness. He's out.
52:45
Speaker 1: Joe Schobert I think has a lot to prove. Yet,
52:48
Speaker 1: even though he was an expensive free agent, mile Jack
52:51
Speaker 1: hasn't played will before consistently. So how will he look
52:54
Speaker 1: because last year when he played, Mike didn't have a
52:57
Speaker 1: great year. Were the performance of the safety he's consistent
53:01
Speaker 1: at all? Last year? No? You know, so you have
53:04
Speaker 1: some mistacker Ron Harrison exactly didn't have you know, the
53:08
Speaker 1: best performance of his career last year. So uh, that's
53:13
Speaker 1: a major concern of mine is that this Jaguars defense
53:17
Speaker 1: went from Ben. I mean, holy cow, you had Darius
53:21
Speaker 1: and the league and Calais and in pause going back
53:25
Speaker 1: a couple of years with Miles Jack and Telvin and uh,
53:29
Speaker 1: you had consistency at safety with two veteran guys, and
53:32
Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, in a couple of years,
53:34
Speaker 1: it's all changed. Which you know, the league is about changing.
53:37
Speaker 1: It always happens. But that's a lot of change in
53:39
Speaker 1: the short amount of time. Interesting all the things you
53:42
Speaker 1: just said, Jeff, I agree, and you know one of
53:45
Speaker 1: the big stories this offseason, even the campusn Gockway and
53:49
Speaker 1: Gockway doesn't fix any of those problems you just talk about. No, No,
53:52
Speaker 1: he does not none of them. That's still a good
53:55
Speaker 1: pass rushers. You want him on your team, but you
54:00
Speaker 1: want to be in camp, but you want him out there.
54:02
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, what's so interesting one of the guys
54:05
Speaker 1: that so much discussion has been around and Ben, get
54:08
Speaker 1: him and can we get him back? And what are
54:09
Speaker 1: we gonna do with them? And he's like all the
54:11
Speaker 1: things you just said has almost zero impact on UM
54:15
Speaker 1: because I mean, at his best he said above average
54:20
Speaker 1: running bought a player, but he plays outside and he's
54:23
Speaker 1: you know outside in when you say, when you say
54:25
Speaker 1: at his best, he has moments where he's an above
54:29
Speaker 1: that's what I said. Yeah, I mean he's a pure
54:31
Speaker 1: pass rusher. He's a disruptor from the edge. UM. But
54:35
Speaker 1: if you look at you, he really because of what
54:39
Speaker 1: you said, his impact even goes down when you think
54:41
Speaker 1: about it, because you can run, you know what else
54:44
Speaker 1: you can't do. You can't get teams in the third
54:47
Speaker 1: and long and passing only situations, and so that is
54:51
Speaker 1: it's such a I mean, I couldn't agree more. I
54:53
Speaker 1: think you know one of the things and done talking
54:56
Speaker 1: about it at the beginning. It can't be brought up
54:58
Speaker 1: to Pavin Bryant and you and I have talked about
55:00
Speaker 1: taming a lot. He's gonna be the three technique. He's
55:03
Speaker 1: gonna have to become a productive player on this team
55:05
Speaker 1: if they want to be able to stop the run
55:07
Speaker 1: UM or have a chance to stop to run. And
55:10
Speaker 1: I mean that's just one Showbert agreed he's gonna have.
55:13
Speaker 1: If you look at Cleveland what was he known for.
55:15
Speaker 1: He was more known for his pass coverage and a
55:17
Speaker 1: good pass defender. Um, he's got to become a middle
55:20
Speaker 1: linebacker run stuff and guy Miles Jack and all the
55:23
Speaker 1: way down to the safeties. UM. And I bring that
55:26
Speaker 1: up because everyone talks about Josh Allen and if you
55:29
Speaker 1: get your unique back and uh chase on who you
55:32
Speaker 1: drafted in the first round out of LSU. All these
55:34
Speaker 1: guys are explosive splash players that can really get after
55:38
Speaker 1: the quarterback and physical and run around and make plays
55:42
Speaker 1: you can't stop to run. Well, you really knowify the
55:45
Speaker 1: impact those type of players can have on your football team.
55:50
Speaker 1: Al Right, guys, let's go around the National Football League
55:53
Speaker 1: at some headlines before we get out of here. And
55:55
Speaker 1: we start with the league and the NFL p A
55:58
Speaker 1: agreeing to extend daily co of A nineteen testing through
56:01
Speaker 1: September five tier one and two positive tests below one
56:05
Speaker 1: percent so far since arrival, and no individual club rate
56:09
Speaker 1: is greater than two percent. So Tony, so far, so good.
56:13
Speaker 1: J Let me let me jump in right there real quick,
56:15
Speaker 1: because I held my nose, Tony, because you probably went
56:18
Speaker 1: through this process. You're talking about daily COVID testing For
56:21
Speaker 1: the people that aren't familiar with this, the nasal swab technique, Jeff,
56:29
Speaker 1: I have not, but I've got some friends that have
56:31
Speaker 1: had to go through it, and they said it's it's
56:33
Speaker 1: absolutely horrendous. Yeah, I call it the brain tickler because
56:36
Speaker 1: they don't just do your nose and all the way
56:38
Speaker 1: to the brain, you know, picking your brain. But I'm
56:40
Speaker 1: pretty sure that, if I'm not mistaken, the test that
56:43
Speaker 1: the players are doing the NFL is not the nasal
56:47
Speaker 1: swap that goes all the way back. It's more of
56:49
Speaker 1: a just internal It's maybe advanced technology. That's what someone
56:53
Speaker 1: told me. I don't know if it's accurate. If God
56:55
Speaker 1: bless them, if they have to do the brain tickler
56:57
Speaker 1: every day, I did do seven times. It's like it's brutal,
57:02
Speaker 1: um and so uh yeah, it's uh, you know, it's goods.
57:08
Speaker 1: I was one. I've had it. My family's had it.
57:12
Speaker 1: I said this the other day about for state football,
57:14
Speaker 1: my kids playing there. I think they should play football.
57:16
Speaker 1: I think I think I was disappointed the Big ten
57:19
Speaker 1: in the Pact twelve what they did. Um. If you
57:22
Speaker 1: look at the numbers, the risk factors of the age
57:25
Speaker 1: group of these men who are playing football, whether it's
57:27
Speaker 1: in college or professional football, for the most part, very
57:30
Speaker 1: very low risk. I'm not saying it's zero risk, but
57:34
Speaker 1: it's low risk. And I know this. If I was
57:36
Speaker 1: a player on the things, I'd be worried about. As
57:39
Speaker 1: far as happening to be on the football field, COVID
57:41
Speaker 1: would not be at the top of it. Now. The
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Speaker 1: key is, with all of this being uh, all that
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Speaker 1: being said, it's not around the facility I worry about.
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Speaker 1: It's not on the field I worry about it, says
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Speaker 1: these guys get out of camp and get into the
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Speaker 1: daily life of being just a person. Um you So
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Speaker 1: are they gonna have to discipline not to go out
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Speaker 1: and do things they shouldn't be and be around people
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Speaker 1: they shouldn't be around as far as go home, you know,
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Speaker 1: be smart, beat with your family, like, try to isolate
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Speaker 1: yourself as much as possible. We just saw a rookie
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Speaker 1: I don't know the kid's name up in Seattle got
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Speaker 1: cut today because in camp he tried to sneak a
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Speaker 1: uh female friend into the facility um when he wasn't
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Speaker 1: supposed to, broking, breaking all testing protocols and everything else.
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Speaker 1: And so that's what you worry about like, these are
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Speaker 1: young guys and we forget that sometimes, like you have
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Speaker 1: some older veterans. Actually, I should say that the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: don't put other teams of older veterans, um, but these
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Speaker 1: are young guys. And the key is for this thing
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Speaker 1: to work and for us to get through this without
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Speaker 1: UM significant positive tests is what they do outside of
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Speaker 1: the facility. I think that's really important, um, for these
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Speaker 1: guys to be thinking about. All right, good stuff. Some
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Speaker 1: other notes to say. George Kittle agrees to a five year,
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Speaker 1: seventy five million dollar extension with San Francisco. Everson Griffin
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Speaker 1: gets a one year deal worth up to six million
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Speaker 1: dollars with the Cowboys, and the ratings down for Hard
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Speaker 1: Knocks on the first episode this week drew only two
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Speaker 1: seventy thousand viewers, as opposed to over seven hundred thousand
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Speaker 1: a year ago. Tony, good stuff. We'll talk to you
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Speaker 1: again next week. Next talk to you Monday. The show
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Speaker 1: kicks off Monday, JP. Let's go, Yeah, It's it's coming
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Speaker 1: in quick. Pete Prisco will join us on Monday as well.
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Speaker 1: Uh Tony Boselli for Jeff Logerman and our entire crew
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Speaker 1: I'm JP Shadrick. Coming up next the Doug Morone Show,
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Speaker 1: and that's along the Jaguars Radio Network. This is Jaguars
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