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Paranormal Lens just hit a HUGE milestone! · Paranormal Lens - A Crossroads Of Curiosities, LLC Production

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  Oh yeah! Coming up... You told a ghost to manifest,
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  dumbass! I totally just heard something. Nope.
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  Cannot deal with that right now. Like, what?!
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  So welcome back to Paranormal Lens for the 50th
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  time. So this is a big milestone, you guys. We
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  hit 50 episodes. Woohoo! Yeah, did you know most
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  podcasts actually don't get past episode 7? Like,
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  that's like the defining... numbers like if you
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  get past seven like shit you've made it and then
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  we've done that actual fact yeah it is it is
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  and the fact that we at this point have well
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  over a thousand downloads we're at episode 50
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  every week we haven't missed a week even the
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  time the hard drive corrupted all the files of
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  previously recorded you because we backlog and
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  There was a whole mess with the hard drive corrupting
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  all the files and stuff. Even then, we didn't
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  miss that week because we did a bonus on Monday.
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  Consistency has paid off and sets us apart from
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  the rest. I don't see us slowing down at all
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  either. No, sir. Unless we are failing to come
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  up with topics. That's impossible. Here's the
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  thing. In the future, yeah. There's going to
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  be repeated topics. There's going to be kind
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  of germs of ideas that just kind of we talk about
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  it for two minutes and then that rest of the
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  episode is tangents. But this podcast has always
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  been and is going to remain just minimally edited,
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  raw, candid conversations mirroring and putting
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  on record our normal conversations we have all
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  the time. I mean, every time we have a conversation,
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  it's not always scripted or with a bunch of beats
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  we want to hit. We're going to have some more
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  loosey -goosey episodes, and that's just kind
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  of natural, or we're going to revisit topics.
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  Because we're always learning and evolving, and
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  opinions change, as people know. Yeah, absolutely.
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  And now that we hit the 50, in my head, I had
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  episode 50 as kind of like a benchmark. If we
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  can hit 50... we're taking this to the next level
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  it's still the same season we'll probably take
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  a little break and do season two after the holidays
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  uh because it will be all hands on deck here
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  in the south hold over the holidays preventing
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  angela from doing anything caustic or dangerous
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  as in summoning santa claus or bigfoot or bigfoot
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  yeah but bigfoot isn't seasonal Santa, can you
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  summon Santa during summer? That's a good question.
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  Actually, he might be less busy. I don't think
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  anyone's tried. Yeah. I don't know. It might
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  be easier to summon Santa during summer. Maybe
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  we'll have to take a summer break. Nah, but I
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  don't wanna. I don't wanna. We've backlogged
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  enough anyways. We're basically talking to the
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  future. It's basically fall already. It's August.
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  We're recording this in June. this will probably
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  be in july but still whatever and we're recording
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  a couple months in advance um point being we're
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  not stopping if anything we're ramping up yeah
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  so for our 50th episode special we're celebrating
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  episode 50 i had the idea to do like an ama ask
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  me anything style episode where we answer speed
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  round 50 questions um these are questions where
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  honestly i don't think warrant probably full
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  episodes but we might revisit these for future
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  episodes or how funny would it be if i cut each
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  speed round question into a individual two minute
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  episode so that by the end of episode 50 we're
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  at episode 100 god ben i think everyone would
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  hate us oh 100 don't they say there's no such
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  thing as like bad press like most hated paranormal
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  podcasts would actually get more listens. Probably,
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  yes. Probably. I still wouldn't like it. I would
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  quit. You'd quit? Yeah. Of all things for you
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  to quit. We're not hated. It would be an eye
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  -opening experience because everyone loves us.
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  To be simultaneously hated and Angela quits all
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  because I post 52 -minute episodes. I just imagine
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  Angela sitting there Everyone loves us Everyone
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  loves us, Ben says I imagine Angela just sitting
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  there angrily typing out like a Like, she wouldn't,
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  like, just say it to us. She would, like, send
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  us an email. She's like, are you fucking kidding
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  me, you guys? I can barely stand the episodes
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  that are less than 30 minutes. You posted one
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  that was 29 minutes. I almost didn't even want
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  to listen to it. Now you're posting two -minute
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  episodes. I can't. My commute to work is 30 minutes.
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  What am I going to do for the other 28? Ah, Santa!
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  Ho, ho, ho. I don't know. She'd probably throw
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  something in about cheese, though. Pretty accurate,
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  to be honest. Don't quit, Ange. I'm not gonna
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  quit, unless you make 50 episodes that are two
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  minutes long. Okay, so, um, we'll just keep it
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  contained to this episode. I have no concept
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  of how long 50 questions takes, but it might
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  be two parts, three max. I won't do the 50 episodes
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  to appease Angela. So what we did, too, is we
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  had a chat GPT prompt, because if we did... 50
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  actual ama style ask me anything style questions
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  it would be all the generic uh questions we always
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  get at conventions and stuff and i wanted to
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  make this special and beyond just the questions
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  that anyone listening would be like i already
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  heard them answer that um so To do so, we had
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  a chat GPT prompt that generated a bunch of random
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  questions, so we're just gonna randomly pull
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  from these and have it like a fake AMA style.
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  I'm gonna go around one at a time questions,
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  first me, then Brianna, then Angela, until we
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  get to 50 questions. Does that make sense? Yes.
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  Yeah! Welcome to our podcast, where we take deep
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  dives looking at various topics through a paranormal
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  lens. Okay, so let me see a good question here.
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  Question one, what's the most underrated haunted
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  location you've investigated? Kenyans? Kenyans
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  Lakeside Resort in Lupton, Michigan. Yeah, because
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  that is not something I had ever heard of before
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  we went there. And that was such a fun place
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  to investigate. Such incredible history, too,
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  with the Prohibition era and the gangsters, and
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  they found actual, like, bottles in the wall.
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  Like, so many places in Michigan have, like,
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  oh, the mob used to come here. Al Capone! And
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  it's just, like, every single place claims that,
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  but this is, like, legit. Like, they have evidence.
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  What about you, Ange? Can I just say our apartment?
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  Your apartment! That's fair. It's the first thing
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  that came to my mind. And every week now, we
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  go live on TikTok investigating our haunted apartment.
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  Yes, we do. A little plug there. Alright, question
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  two. You got one, Bree? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh,
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  yeah. If a spirit could watch your documentaries,
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  what do you think they'd criticize? This is...
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  Not really, like, an answer to your question,
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  but on our last TikTok Live we did... I was about
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  to bring this up. Okay, so this will be our joint
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  answer, then. On our last TikTok Live, we were
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  doing an investigation with jocks at our haunted
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  jester cabinet, and someone was talking about
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  Gravity Falls, and jocks across multiple devices,
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  Spirit Box and Dowsing Rod, simultaneously. Said
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  he... hated because me and ancho just binged
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  gravity falls he said he hated the show and it's
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  stupid and the reason he hated it is because
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  the paranormal elements and the supernatural
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  lore in the show was inaccurate and he couldn't
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  watch it but he liked ghost adventures yeah but
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  he liked ghost adventures he said and knows who
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  sam and kobe is and he oh yeah he knows sam and
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  kobe enjoys ghost adventures but gravity falls
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  that animated kids show horrendous shouldn't
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  be shown for him can't do it inaccurate too inaccurate
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  oh yeah i was i was on watching at that point
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  that was funny dude that was hilarious so i guess
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  like if we showed jocks like a movie or something
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  that we made he'd probably just like focus on
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  like the details we've asked him before and he
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  says he liked some of them like seven mystery
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  of jocks he liked that one he says Well, he's
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  the star of that one. Yeah, he likes the ones
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  he's in. He doesn't care about the other ones.
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  Alright, my turn. What misconception has paranormal
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  television created? Everything is demons. Oh,
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  I thought you were going to say everything. I
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  was going to say every misconception. Was because
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  of paranormal television. So my answer is everything.
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  No, but I was thinking demons, that everything's
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  demon. Or, like, everything bad that happens,
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  scary -wise, is a demon. Or an evil spirit. Yeah.
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  Well, on the other side of that coin, of the
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  demon coin, question four, what's the funniest
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  interaction you've had with a spirit? Like the
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  funniest thing a ghost has ever done. There's
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  a time I was out at Parashini doing an investigation
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  with a friend. I was just using ghost too. We
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  weren't doing anything in particular funny. It
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  had said something and it made me go off like,
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  oh, it must be sad. Are you not understanding?
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  You've passed away so young. And... Then what
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  came through next was it calling us idiots. I
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  remember you telling this story. And I'm like,
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  hey. It was just the timing of it was like, oh,
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  okay, yeah, sure. Didn't a spirit call me a bitch
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  a few investigations ago? It did on a live, right?
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  Yeah, during a live, yeah. Excuse me. And then
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  the next investigation at the state house, it
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  told me to suck its cock. Yes! That was funny.
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  I liked it when me and Ben were at a cemetery
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  once and we were playing Where's Waldo? And it
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  led us straight to a grave where the last name
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  was named Waldo. That was funny. That is pretty
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  funny. If you think like, when was where, when
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  was, where? Wait. Too many W's here. Calm down,
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  Ben. What year... Okay, so that would be the
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  when of the five W's. Okay. When was Where's
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  Waldo... Yeah, every word in that sentence started
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  with a W. When was Where's Waldo created? I don't
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  know. If this ghost was... From a time before
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  Where's Waldo was a thing, it could have just
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  taken us up on that literally. Yeah. You never
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  know. You can't use modern vernacular and, like,
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  pop culture references with a ghost. Or can you?
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  Jax knows Gravity Falls. Yeah. He knows a lot
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  of things. I don't know. We'll have to look that
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  up. I'm curious. Yeah. Alright, I think it's
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  Bree for question five. What's a skeptical explanation
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  for something that occurred that you initially
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  rejected and then accepted? Ooh. That's a good
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  one. And that's a hard question. It is a hard
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  question. So something that we didn't believe
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  was paranormal and then we accepted it as? I
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  have a great example. So there's an investigation
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  we did at this random park in the middle of nowhere.
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  And there were like park benches, you know, like
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  parks do. We're getting the weirdest EMF spikes.
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  And it was like off the charts. I was like, how
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  is this possible? And then someone present, because
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  it was with MSU Paranormal Club, someone was
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  just like, oh, there must be like electrical.
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  And I was like, no, there's not. Like, it's not
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  possible. Well. Later find out they got a grant
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  and the wood park benches were installed with
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  like this electric like fast charging type of
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  weird technology stuff. And there's this whole
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  article about it. So the plain ass random wood
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  benches in the middle of this park in the middle
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  of nowhere actually was rigged up with technology
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  that would explain. high emf readings that's
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  so crazy i just feel like that just another reason
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  you can't really like prove emf readers that
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  well because it literally anything could set
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  it off when you think about it yeah would have
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  thought those park benches would you know yeah
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  i was just like dude i don't believe go submit
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  emf i don't believe in half the emf shit but
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  I do not think would emit this high of an EMF
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  reading. And I was like, telling this guy he's
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  stupid. But then I was stupid. But who would
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  have known? Who'd have thunk? All right. If ghosts
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  could haunt modern technology, what device would
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  be the most terrifying? I can tell you the most
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  common name for a ghost. What is it? Alexa. I
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  was gonna say, Alexa would be pretty... Terrifying.
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  You know how every ghost is like Emily, Sarah,
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  George? Uh -huh. Alexa. Siri. Siri. And oh, all
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  the Google people who think they just lucked
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  out. Hey, Google. We just fucked with everyone's
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  shit. Or a, like... an electric car of some sort
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  it's like a tesla or those stupid cyber trucks
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  or whatever it's on teslas yeah that would be
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  kind of terrifying because those can do a lot
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  of different things or do you know what like
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  another one too is that it's like the whole ai
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  situation ai would be scary if it gets like that's
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  what i was gonna say was some sort of ai like
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  generator yeah because it's like well you know
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  how like when when will ai get like an actual
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  like consciousness you know what you mean and
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  you know it's kind of like it creates an egregore
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  with ai or whatever like when would that happen
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  yeah yeah no i i do think we should talk about
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  that sometimes because like a you're essentially
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  like all these ai chat bots really are kind of
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  like egregores and stuff good topic that will
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  soon to become listened okay next question okay
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  so we love history and that's one of like the
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  main things i think uh paranormal investigators
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  are doing great in the world is bringing history
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  and especially forgotten history to the forefront
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  so what's like the one investigation that comes
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  to your mind of like the history was more impressive
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  and cooler and the stuff you found historically
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  stood out more than any like paranormal like
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  you went there to hunt ghosts and you ended up
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  coming away being like well we didn't catch anything
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  but the history is incredible i love talking
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  about the Traverse City State like hospital history
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  like it has such a deep rich history in what
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  um like mental health and hospitalization what
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  that looked like back in the day and how like
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  that was the turning point in modern medicine
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  for treating like the mentally ill yeah like
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  that that is where it happened was at Traverse
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  City State Hospital so the history alone of that
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  place is so cool like when you do the tours you
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  don't get to investigate like I lucked out and
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  I got like a tour guide who was a paranormal
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  investigator and he's like yeah you guys do your
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  thing like but most of the time you don't get
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  that because they are trying to move away from
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  the paranormal and not advertise that because
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  they're turning it into you know condos and stuff
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  so just going there and knowing and learning
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  the history all by itself is cool even if you
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  don't have a paranormal experience and you know
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  what's cool too is um Because I totally agree.
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  We're at this stage of the podcast where I don't
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  remember really what we have talked about on
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  air, really, or not. But I do know that in one
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  of the early episodes, maybe like one or two,
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  like episode one or two, we used Traverse City
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  State Hospital as like a model for like how a
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  location should retire investigations if they
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  do. Because they really do their tours really
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  well, I think, there. Yeah. And history is at
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  the forefront. This is... Maybe an easier question.
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  What is the strangest sound you've ever captured
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  on an investigation? I actually think recently
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  we did a video at the Okemos Coffee Shop, which
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  is a haunted coffee shop near us that just opened
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  up and it's like really cool, whimsical vibes
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  in there. Also very haunted. Really good coffee
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  and drinks. Amazing coffee. Yeah. And... I don't
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  know if this is strange, but I can't explain
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  it. It's definitely one of the most unexplainable
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  sounds, but we set up a bunch of static cameras
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  around, and the place we had the most activity
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  happened. We had a camera rolling there for a
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  long time, and nothing came through on the audio.
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  The waveform was completely flat, just white
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  noise. Then the last minute of the recording,
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  literally for a minute, you can hear fading in.
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  this like heartbeat kind of like drum we forgot
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  about this yeah yeah and it wasn't like mechanical
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  it was varying in pattern and pattern and rhythm
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  and volume yeah like a heartbeat it was really
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  really weird yeah i've never heard anything like
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  that before and you can tell it was right on
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  the camera because the cameras are like kind
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  of vibrating a little bit like like it was actually
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  like it was almost like something was tapping
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  rhythmically on the chair next to it or something.
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  Yeah. And then the camera shut off completely.
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  Yeah. Which it shouldn't have. So it's like it
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  drained all the energy. Weird. It was weird.
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  It was weird. Then the camera shuts off for no
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  explainable reason. Yeah. That wasn't even on
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  my brain, thinking about the strangest sound.
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  I was gonna say, for myself, if I'm gonna share,
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  like, strangest sound, like, the very first thing,
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  like, EVP I ever captured on recording was from
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  the Howell Opera House, and it sounded like a
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  baby cooing. And it was so weird. And it just,
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  it... shook me because one first time i've ever
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  caught an evp and two not something you should
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  be hearing in a howl in the house like in an
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  opera house when there's just like college students
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  there like it was so random so weird i still
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  wish i wish i still had that recording because
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  it was creepy like literally i was listening
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  to it with my headphones on in my dorm room by
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  myself heard that took my headphones off Set
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  the recorder on the other side of the room. And
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  I'm like nope. Cannot deal with that right now.
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  That's so creepy. So. Yeah. I'm trying to think
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  what mine is. I would say. When we got surrounded
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  by coyotes. In Pirashini. And how the coyotes.
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  Like. Didn't sound like coyotes. Yeah. It sounded
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  like. which again goes back to like strike your
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  cemetery i can't believe i didn't say strike
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  that we talked about a couple episodes ago that
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  growl bark to sound like a human mimicking a
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  dog the coyotes sound like people really quick
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  did any did either you guys just do a yawn or
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  something like a few seconds ago no okay i totally
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  just heard something in the room with me then
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  sorry it just really that that was weird Can
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  you record on your phone in case you catch? Yeah,
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  I can try. I'm sorry, that just really took me
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  off guard, and I wanted to say something before
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  you guys maybe forgot you yawned or something.
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  There's nothing in the room. I didn't hear anything
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  through my headphones. And the first question
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  about audio, strange sounds. And then there's
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  a strange sound that just happened. I'm not even
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  joking. It sounded like something a few feet
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  away from me, like someone breathing in heavily.
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  Weird. But yeah, anyways. No, no, I was just
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  saying the coyotes at Pirashini, which is in
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  the documentary Pirashini Plague in the Pines,
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  which is now streaming on Paraflix. It sounded
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  like people. Within the coyotes, you could hear
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  women yelling and stuff. It was really weird.
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  It didn't sound like real coyotes. No, and they
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  were really close, so that was really weird.
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  And then my favorite EVP that we have ever gotten.
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  was, my name is Blake. Also a piercini, a little
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  kid saying my name is Blake. That was the clearest
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  EVP I have ever heard in my life. And question
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  nine. You have question nine. Has investigating
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  haunted places changed how you think about death?
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  No. No. It's changed more about how I think about
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  living than it has dying. That's true, too. No,
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  it definitely changed for me. Really? Yeah. What
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  changed? I mean, that could be a whole deep dive.
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  All right, stay tuned. Stay tuned for the next
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  two episodes, AI and dying. It's basically that
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  I think there's a lot more things that could
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  happen after death and there's a lot more to
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  it and stuff like that and not just like the
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  typical either you go to heaven. Or hell situation.
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  Like I believed and was told growing up. Okay.
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  What do you think is the one thing people misunderstand
• 25:29
  the most about paranormal investigating? You're
• 25:34
  not always going to have something happen. Yeah.
• 25:38
  Like, you're not always going to hear a voice.
• 25:41
  You're not always going to have something move
• 25:44
  or hear movement. Or not every time someone's
• 25:48
  going to get scratched or get possessed. All
• 25:53
  the things that are dramatized by TV ghost hunting.
• 26:00
  That's like 3 % of actual ghost hunting. Yeah.
• 26:07
  I just think to a live stream we did a week or
• 26:11
  two ago. Again in our apartment. We had activity
• 26:15
  non -stop. For like 45 minutes straight. Which
• 26:18
  is rare. And then right when activity. Which
• 26:21
  literally was happening every second. For like
• 26:24
  that entire duration. Finally cooled down for
• 26:27
  like a minute or two. Because TikTok lives. Anyone
• 26:30
  can come and go. Join. Leave. This one guy joined
• 26:34
  right when activity finally settled down. And
• 26:38
  he comments. Are you guys ghost hunting? And
• 26:41
  we're like yeah. And he goes. Why is nothing
• 26:42
  happening? This is so boring. And then I'm like,
• 26:45
  you're literally a minute late. Yeah. And also
• 26:50
  you've been on the live stream for 30 seconds.
• 26:52
  Yeah. What do you mean? Why is nothing happening?
• 26:57
  But that's people expect things to actually be
• 27:01
  nonstop. I have my next question. Okay. I love
• 27:04
  it. Okay. What's a question you wished people
• 27:08
  would ask? I don't know. All of these. These
• 27:15
  are all more interesting questions than, oh my
• 27:19
  god, you're a ghost hunter? What's the craziest
• 27:22
  thing you've ever experienced? Oh my god, you're
• 27:26
  a ghost hunter? Have you ever seen a ghost? Yeah.
• 27:33
  You're a ghost hunter. Have you seen Sam and
• 27:36
  Kobe? Yeah, that's a big one too. Yeah. oh but
• 27:41
  my favorite thing too is like when we every time
• 27:44
  we post anything about like a place we investigated
• 27:46
  someone always tags sam and colby saying sam
• 27:50
  and colby should make a video there and i'm like
• 27:54
  the whole point of this post is that we made
• 27:56
  a video there yeah we've we've got we did you
• 28:01
  can watch it right now I always have that temptation
• 28:05
  when someone's like, oh, have you watched the
• 28:07
  Sam and Colby episode? Or, oh, have you seen
• 28:09
  this thing that Sam and Colby did? I always want
• 28:12
  to be like, who's that? Who's that? Everyone
• 28:17
  in the paranormal field knows who they are. But,
• 28:20
  like, I've never watched any of their stuff.
• 28:22
  I could not tell you who is who. Yeah, whose
• 28:26
  question is it? Have you ever had an investigation
• 28:30
  become unexpectedly emotional? I'm thinking of
• 28:35
  that time we were at Stimson Hospital and we
• 28:39
  were in like that room in the basement and I
• 28:42
  got like really like angry and emotional. I've
• 28:46
  never seen you so affected. Yeah, you were. I
• 28:49
  mean, you, I think like everyone was feeling
• 28:54
  something. Except for me, I was just like, what's
• 28:57
  going on guys? And then there was another time
• 29:01
  at Stimson. Like I get, I get affected at Stimson.
• 29:04
  Like the other time too, we were, it was during
• 29:10
  your birthday, Ben. And I just got like another
• 29:14
  really annoyed. situation i think we all got
• 29:17
  annoyed and we all went our separate ways and
• 29:19
  took a me time for a little bit it was literally
• 29:22
  a sudden it was sudden we're all yeah yeah the
• 29:24
  vibe changed yep and we all had to like take
• 29:29
  a breather okay so my question is kind of like
• 29:34
  the inverse of a couple questions ago where we
• 29:38
  were like what's what's the most underrated haunted
• 29:41
  location what's A place we refuse to investigate.
• 29:47
  Now, just quite simply, what do you think is
• 29:49
  the most overrated location that you have just
• 29:51
  no desire to ever investigate? Like, you don't
• 29:54
  care. Like, a famous place, everyone goes, and
• 29:57
  you're just like, I could give two shits. Waverly
• 30:01
  Hills. Um... You know, I don't know. It's hard
• 30:09
  to say, because I... even if i don't go like
• 30:14
  get to investigate a place i would love to like
• 30:17
  even if it is overrated i would just want to
• 30:20
  go there to feel the vibes myself like i mean
• 30:23
  i i agree too but yeah i know what you mean my
• 30:28
  answer is still waverly hills though yeah we've
• 30:32
  talked before there's there's rumors they brought
• 30:34
  darker energies there they've embellished history
• 30:38
  there is this yeah Yeah. Oh, what's that? Um,
• 30:45
  the Cecil Hotel. Oh, yeah, that's another one,
• 30:50
  too. That's just so... That one I'm like, eh.
• 30:54
  So overdone. Yeah. Talk about one singular incident
• 30:57
  that's just blown out of proportion. Yeah. Like
• 31:01
  Bree said, I still would like to go to those
• 31:04
  locations. We don't ever get to it in life, and
• 31:08
  it's like, it's okay. If someone... Was like,
• 31:12
  hey, I'm going to this place. Come with me for
• 31:16
  free just for funsies. Yeah, I'd do it. But I
• 31:20
  ain't gonna pay for these expensive, overrated
• 31:24
  places. Yeah. Alright, Brie, question 17. Have
• 31:29
  you ever had a piece of equipment fail at the
• 31:32
  worst moment? Yeah, and it was right after. I
• 31:37
  remember one time at MSU Paranormal Society where
• 31:39
  we all met. in college we were doing a big investigation
• 31:43
  with like 30 40 people and i was filming it and
• 31:48
  one of the dumbass freshmen was like oh if there's
• 31:51
  anyone here feel free to use our energy we have
• 31:56
  a camera and a camera light and batteries if
• 32:00
  you need to manifest and i'm like no don't ever
• 32:03
  say that because this camera is the only thing
• 32:06
  recording this light That you claim they can
• 32:09
  use to drain is the only thing lighting the environment.
• 32:12
  What's going to happen if they actually do drain
• 32:14
  it? Oh, nothing will. Camera died. Light died
• 32:17
  right after that. Didn't have any footage from
• 32:20
  that investigation because the camera died and
• 32:22
  it didn't save the fucking footage. And then
• 32:24
  we were in the dark and the dumbass freshman
• 32:27
  was like, I can't see. Can't see. Someone turn
• 32:30
  on the light. How can we turn on the light? You
• 32:33
  told the ghost to use it to manifest, dumbass.
• 32:36
  And I had a rule from then on. You can say use
• 32:40
  Ben's energy. Don't invite the ghost to fuck
• 32:46
  with the cameras. Yeah. Oh, oh, oh. I have a
• 32:53
  good one. My full -spectrum camera. It records
• 32:57
  in 10 -minute segments. Like, it doesn't just
• 33:00
  continuously record. It records in 10 -minute
• 33:03
  segments. Stupidest thing ever. I don't know
• 33:06
  why it does that. Can't change it. Whatever.
• 33:10
  But it's auto. Like, you don't need to manually
• 33:12
  stop and start. No, you don't need to manually
• 33:13
  stop and start. It just keeps recording, but
• 33:16
  there is, like, a cut between each. My very first
• 33:20
  time actually going out to Paraschini and investigating,
• 33:25
  I did it by myself. Well, with my friend who
• 33:29
  had never been paranormal investigating. First
• 33:31
  time really using my full spectrum camera. We
• 33:35
  were walking around the cemetery. And I was recording
• 33:39
  on my camera. So it's like, oh, anything that
• 33:42
  should happen will be caught. We got growled
• 33:45
  at in the middle of this cemetery. Nothing around
• 33:49
  us. And guess what happened? Right in between
• 33:54
  the cuts. right at the 10 minute mark right at
• 33:59
  the 10 minute mark and wow yeah so oh man i was
• 34:05
  so mad wow there's also this weird tech um glitch
• 34:11
  that happened i didn't mean to but for some reason
• 34:14
  this episode has been airing in two minute intervals
• 34:18
  every question has been his own episode oh my
• 34:21
  god no i'm kidding i'm kidding i know i know
• 34:25
  you are Okay, speaking of which, we're going
• 34:29
  to have to turn this into two episodes. So, can
• 34:33
  we plow ahead to 25 or should we just stop at
• 34:37
  a 20? Let's plow ahead and try to get to 25.
• 34:41
  Okay. We gotta speedrun them. Have you ever disagreed
• 34:45
  with a teammate about whether something was paranormal?
• 34:49
  That's the whole point of this podcast. I know.
• 34:51
  Have you ever encountered something that felt
• 34:54
  paranormal? but looked completely ordinary. I'll
• 34:59
  be like in a haunted place and I feel like there's
• 35:01
  something like in the doorway and I'm scared
• 35:02
  of doorways now because like all the dweller
• 35:04
  stuff. So sometimes I'll see like an open doorway
• 35:06
  and just be like scared, like feel creeped out
• 35:09
  or feel like paranormal because like the PTSD
• 35:12
  of the couple dweller experiences. So I'll just
• 35:15
  be like that door should be shut right now. There's
• 35:19
  nothing like. I can see in the doorway, but it's
• 35:23
  giving off a weird vibe. Open doorways are weird.
• 35:28
  Ben has trauma with open doors. I get it. I get
• 35:35
  it, though. What's the strangest thing that happened
• 35:39
  while traveling to or from a location rather
• 35:42
  than at the location itself? It's an easy answer
• 35:47
  for me. When we were filming at Rosevear Park,
• 35:50
  For our very first short film many, many, many
• 35:53
  years ago called Afterlife, the driver slammed
• 35:57
  on his brakes. And we're all just in the car.
• 36:01
  There were like four of us crammed in. We're
• 36:03
  all on our phones. He slammed on his brakes because
• 36:05
  he saw a person, like a shadow figure, walk right
• 36:09
  in front of the car. And he thought he was going
• 36:12
  to hit this shadow figure. And then he realized
• 36:15
  it was a ghost. And he freaked out. Never seen
• 36:18
  this guy. Just scared. and he's like oh my god
• 36:21
  did you guys see that and we're like on our phones
• 36:23
  we look up see what huh what are you saying and
• 36:26
  he was like he's like oh my god no more phones
• 36:30
  while we're driving up to a haunted location
• 36:32
  did you guys seriously not because you were all
• 36:35
  glued on your phones you didn't see the fucking
• 36:37
  shadow figure that i almost hit with my car as
• 36:39
  we pull up to this haunted location we're like
• 36:41
  no sorry um yeah sorry Which location would you
• 36:48
  absolutely not choose or go to? The amount of
• 36:52
  people I know that have had terrible reactions
• 36:55
  and their lives got fucked up and changed after
• 36:58
  they went to, what is it, the Bushy Mountain?
• 37:01
  Bushy Mountain. Yeah. What does a successful
• 37:04
  investigation mean to you? I feel like in our
• 37:07
  group, evidence is the last thing we're trying
• 37:10
  to collect. We're there for the experience and
• 37:13
  learning more. That sort of stuff. So a successful
• 37:18
  investigation, I feel like, comes with having
• 37:23
  great experiences. Something that is thought
• 37:26
  -provoking and makes you think about it for days,
• 37:30
  weeks, months afterwards. And two, kind of changes
• 37:36
  the way that you think about paranormal. What's
• 37:39
  something you can't stand when other people do,
• 37:42
  but you're also guilty of it? I, what, that other
• 37:48
  people that I also, that I'm guilty of? Yeah,
• 37:51
  what's something you're like, if you're watching
• 37:54
  paranormal shows or whatever, you're like, ugh,
• 37:56
  why you, oh, I do the same thing. Running away
• 37:59
  from scary situations. Yeah, that's so valid.
• 38:08
  If you were forced to spend a week alone in any
• 38:12
  location you've investigated, which one would
• 38:14
  you choose? The Dirty Hotel. A hotel? Wow, my
• 38:20
  brain didn't even go there. Okay, I agree. That's
• 38:23
  a good location. It's cheating. It's definitely
• 38:25
  a cheater's answer. What's the weirdest object
• 38:28
  you've ever encountered that someone told you
• 38:31
  was haunted? Let me guess. Was it the birdcage?
• 38:34
  It was the birdcage! Yes, the antique birdcage.
• 38:38
  I think it was a miner's birdcage or something
• 38:40
  like that. One of the ones that they took down
• 38:43
  into the mines to tell if there was gas. That's
• 38:48
  how they did it in the olden days. They took
• 38:50
  a bird cage down and if the bird died they'd
• 38:54
  know, oh hey, we need to get out of here. Haunted
• 38:57
  by birds? Are there birds haunting that? I don't
• 39:01
  know. I found that on Facebook Marketplace last
• 39:06
  summer, two summers ago. And, yeah, I think they
• 39:11
  were just asking way too much money for it, and
• 39:13
  I'm like, whatever. It looked so cool, though.
• 39:18
  It did look really cool. It was a cool -looking,
• 39:19
  like, birdcage. Yeah. There was also a bunch
• 39:22
  of, around that same time, messages regarding
• 39:25
  two birds in a birdcage, specifically, and then
• 39:29
  two crows, and then, like, we went to Madison
• 39:32
  Seminary. Oh, we found the dead bird. Yeah. Right
• 39:35
  in the window. So there was, like, this theme
• 39:38
  of, like, Birds, specifically two birds in a
• 39:41
  birdcage. Contemporary Angela would handcuff
• 39:45
  Brianna to the haunted birdcage. Why? I lost
• 39:49
  Jenga. Why? Yeah, I lost Jenga. Okay, you ready
• 39:54
  for the last question? What's the funniest situation
• 39:57
  during a serious investigation? Funniest situation
• 40:06
  during a serious investigation. oh me getting
• 40:11
  being locked in the bathtub and having you guys
• 40:14
  get locked out of the house the state house that
• 40:17
  was hilarious that was so funny that could have
• 40:21
  been really bad yeah so everyone go watch beware
• 40:27
  the haunted bathtubs the short film we just did
• 40:29
  we handcuffed brie to a bathtub and then we got
• 40:32
  locked out of the building oh yep It was hilarious.
• 40:38
  Very hilarious. Obviously, I got out and they
• 40:41
  got in, but that was so funny. Uh -huh. Unspeakable
• 40:48
  phenomena. Please tell me you're joking. That
• 40:51
  is freaky. I haven't on camera. I was filming.
• 40:54
  Is this girl quite all right? The haunted bathtubs
• 40:58
  are waiting. Oh, jeez. Is this mean if I just
• 41:13
  say, like, half of Angela's reactions to shit?
• 41:16
  Like, when she, when it just goes, she's like,
• 41:18
  dude. It's just like, looking back, it's just
• 41:25
  like, oh my god! It's just like, I try hard not
• 41:30
  to laugh, like, I get it, but. Wait, when do,
• 41:34
  when do, like, Do that. I know I say dude, but
• 41:37
  what about the other ones? Remember that one
• 41:40
  time when the spirit box said suck my cock? And
• 41:45
  then Angela was like... Also a good example.
• 41:55
  Well, we couldn't cock -a -doodle finish this
• 41:58
  episode. In my head, the 50 questions would have
• 42:03
  been like... 20 minutes or like two hours. So
• 42:07
  no in between. We definitely are going to two
• 42:10
  hour route. So we are going to pick this up next
• 42:12
  episode with the next 25 or final 25. So episode
• 42:17
  50 .2. Yes. We usually backlog these and like
• 42:24
  stacks. We actually are like. along for the ride
• 42:27
  with the listeners. In this case, we're not just
• 42:29
  stopping and then restarting two seconds later
• 42:32
  like we sometimes do. We actually will be reconvening
• 42:35
  in a week to pick up the last 25, so we will
• 42:38
  have a week to, I don't know, maybe come up with
• 42:41
  other questions. Yeah, now that we kind of know
• 42:44
  the rhythm and the cadence of this, we might
• 42:46
  be able to go through the next 25 faster. Who
• 42:49
  knows? Or it will be a three -parter. It's possible.
• 42:55
  So stay tuned for next episode. What? All summer.
• 43:02
  Episode 50. Yeah, never ending 50. I'm ready.
• 43:13
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• 43:15
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• 43:18
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• 43:29
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