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Ep. 212 - Exploring the Destructiveness of Adultery · The Living Waters Podcast

• 1:05
  Ray Comfort: So let me share the quality that quotes so people don't miss it with my interruption.
• 1:08
  Ray Comfort: You can't stop birds from flying over your head, but you can stop them from making a nest in your hair.
• 1:14
  Mark Spence: And what does that mean Draw that out?
• 1:17
  Ray Comfort: So you get a lust for thought.
• 1:18
  Ray Comfort: You just don't own it.
• 1:20
  Ray Comfort: You don't grab it and chew it over and let it become part of you.
• 1:24
  Ray Comfort: I've dealt with lust in a wonderful way.
• 1:26
  Ray Comfort: Many years ago.
• 1:27
  Ray Comfort: I had surgery on my eyes laser surgery and they give you an option get both eyes done and you can't see in the distance, but you can see up closely.
• 1:35
  Ray Comfort: Or get one eye done and you can see in the distance and you can read it.
• 1:39
  Ray Comfort: So I got one eye done, which means when I look at the distance with my right eye it goes blurry.
• 1:44
  Ray Comfort: So when I see a lust woman I just close an eye like that and she tends in an instant blur.
• 1:49
  Ray Comfort: But I do get slapped a lot.
• 1:50
  Emeal Zwayne: Because you're a wanker.
• 1:50
  Emeal Zwayne: You're a wanker.
• 1:53
  Mark Spence: I, Ray, was it you the one that told me that every time you feel that temptation, you pray for wisdom?
• 1:59
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, you pray a negative, a positive, I'm sorry.
• 2:01
  Ray Comfort: Or I look at the sky and just say, yeah, cool, that sky is that God has made.
• 2:05
  Ray Comfort: Distract myself, because once they're out of sight, they're out of mind.
• 2:09
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, it really does help to just look away, but it's very hard for women to understand, like Easey was saying, the nuclear power thing.
• 2:17
  Ray Comfort: It really is true.
• 2:18
  Ray Comfort: You're driving your car and I can see a lusty woman from 15 miles away and I just got to be so careful.
• 2:25
  Oscar Navarro: That was a mountain.
• 2:26
  Oscar Navarro: Your eyes were blurry.
• 2:29
  Ray Comfort: So, and even at my age and guys, it does not.
• 2:32
  Ray Comfort: The fire does not go out, it gets worse as you get older.
• 2:35
  Ray Comfort: I'm coming up 74 and I'm talking about, I'm fighting lust daily.
• 2:38
  Ray Comfort: It's crazy.
• 2:43
  Emeal Zwayne: I have an idea let's take here this big rubber band thing and put one over each of our shoulders and then connect it to our pants, and this will hold our pants up.
• 2:53
  Ray Comfort: We do apologize to people from, yeah, all of our southern friends.
• 2:57
  Ray Comfort: Sorry we were going to meet.
• 2:58
  Ray Comfort: We do love you.
• 2:59
  Emeal Zwayne: And then let's do something similar for each one of our little cute suckies.
• 3:06
  Ray Comfort: Okay, guys, suspenders and garters they call braces in New Zealand and Australian and England braces.
• 3:13
  Ray Comfort: What the suspenders?
• 3:15
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, I'm not going to lie Suspenders are coming back and I kind of want a guy like that.
• 3:20
  Emeal Zwayne: As I was thinking through all this, immediately you came to my mind.
• 3:22
  Emeal Zwayne: I'm like Oscar would totally wear suspenders.
• 3:24
  Oscar Navarro: I wear suspenders under suits, but I would totally wear casual pairs of suspenders Would you wear them shorts Like leader house.
• 3:33
  Emeal Zwayne: I had to put them on when we did this Like a.
• 3:35
  Ray Comfort: USPS guy.
• 3:35
  Ray Comfort: We did this episode in Switzerland.
• 3:38
  Ray Comfort: You guys had me standing on the Matterhorn on those little shorts.
• 3:42
  Emeal Zwayne: Quoting John 316.
• 3:44
  Emeal Zwayne: The only thing that was missing were like clogs.
• 3:46
  Emeal Zwayne: I would have never seen you in clogs.
• 3:48
  Emeal Zwayne: Who invented clogs?
• 3:49
  Emeal Zwayne: They would have made you taller too.
• 3:50
  Emeal Zwayne: I know, really, did they seriously walk around in these wooden?
• 3:53
  Oscar Navarro: shoes no, knock it till you try it.
• 3:55
  Oscar Navarro: Knock it, Tell you try it.
• 3:59
  Ray Comfort: I wonder if they had racing in clogs 100 meters Clogs?
• 4:03
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh, it surprised me.
• 4:04
  Emeal Zwayne: But seriously, who came up with who, who, who, who, who, who, who?
• 4:08
  Mark Spence: Who, who, who, who, who who.
• 4:11
  Ray Comfort: Who, who, who, who, who, who.
• 4:12
  Ray Comfort: Bigwarop shot, meagan, did you see all?
• 4:27
  Emeal Zwayne: this stuff happen.
• 4:28
  Emeal Zwayne: Bigwarop shot those little girls wearing big pants?
• 4:31
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh yeah, they sounded alright.
• 4:33
  Emeal Zwayne: Do you see any?
• 4:33
  Emeal Zwayne: pom franks.
• 4:34
  Emeal Zwayne: No, they didn't.
• 4:34
  Emeal Zwayne: Bigwarop shot, so I'm sure one of your alumni members said, though you didn't.
• 4:34
  Emeal Zwayne: Did you see this episode?
• 4:34
  Emeal Zwayne: Idos loudly, loosen me up Asked us to police.
• 4:37
  Emeal Zwayne: The conversation about how to get a badge was interesting.
• 4:41
  Emeal Zwayne: The this situation is so compelling.
• 4:42
  Emeal Zwayne: It's such a weird story.
• 4:43
  Emeal Zwayne: The this is slower running my resume, sprinkle me you.
• 4:46
  Emeal Zwayne: This is a deep brief scene when they were like they didn't have enough food, and suddenly all we have is an old manny bread Maggots, anyway who came out with suspenders, and why, I don't know, but I like them.
• 4:54
  Emeal Zwayne: They're stupid, oscar no way.
• 4:56
  Emeal Zwayne: These rubber bands around your shoulders holding up your pants?
• 4:59
  Emeal Zwayne: Who thought of those?
• 5:01
  Emeal Zwayne: Okay, but Ray, you're from that era.
• 5:03
  Emeal Zwayne: Help me understand sock garters please.
• 5:09
  Oscar Navarro: Okay, that's different.
• 5:10
  Oscar Navarro: Okay, actually I'd wear them, what's?
• 5:12
  Emeal Zwayne: that Ray who grew up.
• 5:14
  Emeal Zwayne: Ray's gone on.
• 5:15
  Emeal Zwayne: The who grew up.
• 5:20
  Oscar Navarro: That's disgusting, oh, that's real.
• 5:23
  Ray Comfort: Ray, please don't ever show us a picture of somebody eating a maggot, so that your socks don't come down when you're sitting up on a stage and people see your bare leg, which looks horrible.
• 5:31
  Ray Comfort: So what era?
• 5:32
  Emeal Zwayne: I mean we living in the 1200s?
• 5:34
  Emeal Zwayne: Well, we still.
• 5:35
  Emeal Zwayne: We don't socks have elastic around them.
• 5:38
  Ray Comfort: Everything goes around in circles.
• 5:39
  Ray Comfort: Suddenly they'll become in and everyone will want them.
• 5:42
  Emeal Zwayne: They're so stupid.
• 5:43
  Emeal Zwayne: I looked them up yesterday and the most uncomfortable things things are wrapped around your ankle.
• 5:49
  Ray Comfort: I've never worn them, but I think it's more English Jolly Good Shell Chad.
• 5:52
  Emeal Zwayne: Truly good.
• 5:53
  Emeal Zwayne: How about girdles, Ray?
• 5:55
  Emeal Zwayne: Would you ever wear a girdle?
• 5:56
  Emeal Zwayne: What's a girdle?
• 5:57
  Ray Comfort: There's men girdles.
• 5:59
  Emeal Zwayne: A myrtle, it's a myrtle, you've got a great physique when you've got a you know a T-shirt on, did I make them for men.
• 6:04
  Ray Comfort: Yes, at least say what a girdle is.
• 6:07
  Ray Comfort: It sounds like you're gargling or something, but it's a thing that pulls all the fat and ran your waist Really tight, so it looks like you have a great physique, a myrtle.
• 6:14
  Emeal Zwayne: How vain are we as people.
• 6:16
  Emeal Zwayne: Seriously, you know it's funny when Rachel and I were newly married.
• 6:19
  Emeal Zwayne: I have no idea why, don't ask me why, but I just came up with this random song one day that I sang to her.
• 6:24
  Emeal Zwayne: Here we go.
• 6:25
  Mark Spence: No, no, it's okay, no, please, please, One day you'll wear a girdle baby.
• 6:34
  Oscar Navarro: She probably loved it.
• 6:35
  Oscar Navarro: I am so impressed with.
• 6:39
  Ray Comfort: Rachel.
• 6:39
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, Rachel, let's put together and send her a great big gold watch or something.
• 6:43
  Emeal Zwayne: I'm just saying Easy, rachel's amazing.
• 6:46
  Emeal Zwayne: Well, she grew up with Ray.
• 6:47
  Emeal Zwayne: Copper Is her dad, that's fair.
• 6:49
  Emeal Zwayne: What does that mean?
• 6:49
  Emeal Zwayne: Well, that means that you conditioned her.
• 6:51
  Emeal Zwayne: For a lunatic like me.
• 6:53
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, I guess you're right.
• 6:54
  Mark Spence: Yeah, I'm always surprised I guess I shouldn't be how clean your house is.
• 6:59
  Mark Spence: I mean, rachel keeps the house extremely clean and what I'll do is I'll go over to the top of the refrigerator in the very, very back, where she can't reach, and I'll drag my finger across the top and I'll let the dust go inside the air and I go.
• 7:12
  Mark Spence: Rachel, this is unacceptable, yeah now Ease is going to go home.
• 7:15
  Ray Comfort: She's not going to talk after that much Ease is going to go home and wipe the fingerprints off the top of that refrigerator Exactly Mark's filthy fingerprints.
• 7:24
  Emeal Zwayne: But here guys, look of all the crazy things that have been invented over time, right Garders and girdles and corsets.
• 7:33
  Emeal Zwayne: That the one thing I cannot understand Breath mints we got it, we know.
• 7:39
  Emeal Zwayne: Helitosis.
• 7:41
  Emeal Zwayne: Bustles Explain what.
• 7:46
  Emeal Zwayne: Wait what's a bustle?
• 7:47
  Emeal Zwayne: I knew you too wouldn't know.
• 7:48
  Ray Comfort: A bustle is when you want to carry a tray of.
• 7:53
  Emeal Zwayne: How do I say this?
• 7:54
  Ray Comfort: A tray of keef around the back.
• 7:56
  Ray Comfort: It's a woman.
• 7:57
  Ray Comfort: They accentuated their rear end so it stuck out back.
• 8:00
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, you guys don't remember they look like a chicken, it's like a chicken I've seen a lot of ladies today wear bustles.
• 8:05
  Ray Comfort: They're natural.
• 8:07
  Emeal Zwayne: No, natural bustles no.
• 8:09
  Emeal Zwayne: But seriously, what was behind bustles?
• 8:11
  Emeal Zwayne: Sorry, I did not try to google it.
• 8:12
  Mark Spence: Was that a joke?
• 8:13
  Emeal Zwayne: No, it's fine, that's Victorian looking.
• 8:15
  Ray Comfort: What's behind bustles?
• 8:16
  Ray Comfort: The bustle is behind, but it is the stupidest thing I've ever seen.
• 8:22
  Ray Comfort: Seriously, it's like Fashion.
• 8:26
  Ray Comfort: That's all it was.
• 8:27
  Ray Comfort: But, ray, it's Memoring white wigs, and that was the Ray, it is 100% illogical.
• 8:33
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh yeah, I'd wear that.
• 8:34
  Emeal Zwayne: You would Oscar.
• 8:36
  Emeal Zwayne: You totally would.
• 8:39
  Ray Comfort: Scott Oscar just saw a picture of the bustle With your waiter pants that go up to your calves?
• 8:44
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, anyhow.
• 8:45
  Emeal Zwayne: And those things they would do back then.
• 8:47
  Emeal Zwayne: The Japanese would bind feet.
• 8:49
  Ray Comfort: Oh, I think they just stopped doing that.
• 8:50
  Ray Comfort: That's illegal.
• 8:51
  Emeal Zwayne: I think over the near what in the world From the time their little kids put their feet in these tight shoes and they had, so it's a bind them up.
• 8:59
  Emeal Zwayne: But why do they do that?
• 9:00
  Emeal Zwayne: What.
• 9:03
  Ray Comfort: No, no.
• 9:03
  Ray Comfort: So whatever is bound on Earth.
• 9:06
  Emeal Zwayne: Ray was about to make something up.
• 9:07
  Oscar Navarro: I want to know what they're going to say about us in 100 years?
• 9:10
  Oscar Navarro: I don't know.
• 9:11
  Ray Comfort: They used to have these stupid podcasts.
• 9:13
  Emeal Zwayne: They begin with welcome to Living Waters podcast.
• 9:16
  Ray Comfort: Was that your easy?
• 9:17
  Ray Comfort: That's the best I can do In 100 years, with the exception of Ray.
• 9:22
  Emeal Zwayne: They're going to say about the three of us, who?
• 9:23
  Emeal Zwayne: That's true, that's right, and then you know, and then oh, but the Africans with the rings on the neck.
• 9:31
  Ray Comfort: It's to extend the neck and it's fashionable.
• 9:33
  Ray Comfort: Okay, but tell me the plate on the front of the lift.
• 9:35
  Ray Comfort: That's so you can eat.
• 9:37
  Mark Spence: So, you don't have to hold your plate.
• 9:39
  Mark Spence: That's it.
• 9:40
  Ray Comfort: The mother goes around with a big spoon and just drops it in the kid's plate.
• 9:44
  Emeal Zwayne: That has to be the most perplexing thing I've ever seen.
• 9:46
  Emeal Zwayne: It's the plate, and they keep enlarging.
• 9:48
  Emeal Zwayne: I'm talking like literally the size of a small plate.
• 9:51
  Ray Comfort: So why don't we start that in universities?
• 9:53
  Ray Comfort: It would take on.
• 9:54
  Emeal Zwayne: It would, but they've done everything else.
• 9:56
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, and obviously that probably comes from some of those cultures, the plugs and the ears that keep expanding, expanding plugs.
• 10:03
  Ray Comfort: I've seen guys with big holes in their ears.
• 10:05
  Oscar Navarro: Yeah, I have two holes in my ears.
• 10:07
  Ray Comfort: And actually, when you want to witness to someone the holes in their ears, just put your finger out into the hole and pull it down, all right, here's a comment from TNBS Kaneese K Nizzle, 10 bisknees whatever.
• 10:22
  Emeal Zwayne: I have no idea what that name is.
• 10:23
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• 10:26
  Emeal Zwayne: These men make me laugh and make me think they're so enjoyable to be with.
• 10:30
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• 10:32
  Emeal Zwayne: I especially appreciate and need the constant keeping on the track of where my joy comes from.
• 10:38
  Emeal Zwayne: I especially appreciate and need I just read that salvation man what is wrong with me today and how to live to honor God in light of all Christ has done for me.
• 10:47
  Emeal Zwayne: If only every Christ follower has a group like yours to hold each other accountable, and a man like Ray Comfort, who follows Christ so closely that he's a modern day Paul.
• 10:57
  Emeal Zwayne: His ways of explaining the things of God have helped me clarify so many aspects that confused me and kept me from important truths that lead me to share the gospel.
• 11:08
  Mark Spence: All right.
• 11:08
  Mark Spence: What's funny about that?
• 11:10
  Emeal Zwayne: Ray just showed a picture of that plate how in the world.
• 11:14
  Emeal Zwayne: Do you live like that?
• 11:16
  Ray Comfort: I don't know.
• 11:16
  Ray Comfort: It took me 20 minutes to kiss my wife goodbye.
• 11:20
  Emeal Zwayne: That's crazy.
• 11:21
  Emeal Zwayne: Anyway, sorry, friend, for the distraction, tnbs and ease You've blessed us today.
• 11:28
  Emeal Zwayne: Thank you for that encouragement and pray for us and Ray Comfort especially.
• 11:33
  Emeal Zwayne: Ray, why are you looking at stuff?
• 11:35
  Emeal Zwayne: Because there's even bigger plates.
• 11:38
  Emeal Zwayne: You should look up the biggest one.
• 11:40
  Ray Comfort: Well, this takes the cake.
• 11:42
  Ray Comfort: What?
• 11:43
  Ray Comfort: Look at that one Looks like a big pizza.
• 11:45
  Ray Comfort: Whoops, oh, it was the ultimate.
• 11:50
  Emeal Zwayne: That's insanity.
• 11:54
  Ray Comfort: It looks like a pizza.
• 11:55
  Ray Comfort: What happens when they take it out though?
• 11:56
  Ray Comfort: Medium sized?
• 11:57
  Emeal Zwayne: pizza their bottom lip would be in the ground.
• 11:59
  Ray Comfort: How do you eat?
• 12:00
  Ray Comfort: Well, you just tie the knot and carry on.
• 12:01
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, how do you eat?
• 12:03
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• 12:26
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• 12:46
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• 12:48
  Oscar Navarro: were you in?
• 12:48
  Emeal Zwayne: your head, oscar, I fell asleep.
• 12:49
  Emeal Zwayne: All right, friends, today we are talking actually about a serious subject.
• 12:55
  Emeal Zwayne: We're continuing our trek through the commandments we have not yet covered thus far in the Living Waters podcast, and today we're talking about adultery, exploring the destructiveness of adultery.
• 13:07
  Emeal Zwayne: Boy Mark, you keep a list and I do one as well of especially Christian leaders that have destroyed their lives through adultery.
• 13:20
  Emeal Zwayne: The destruction is incalculable.
• 13:23
  Emeal Zwayne: You guys really keep a list.
• 13:25
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, is it getting big?
• 13:27
  Emeal Zwayne: You got it written down somewhere.
• 13:28
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, I've got mine, and I've got mine as a mental list, I think, mark actually.
• 13:32
  Mark Spence: I have one right now, have a physical list of you know we've had the opportunity to interact with a couple of these people before they were found out and the thing that kind of surprises me is how natural and normal they acted in front of us before they were even found out.
• 13:50
  Mark Spence: And that's a scary thing to hide from fornicating and committing adultery.
• 13:59
  Mark Spence: I shudder, you know I, before I, I was working at a restaurant before I, right when I became a Christian, I guess right after Bible College, and I would read Proverbs five, six and seven every day before I went into work.
• 14:11
  Mark Spence: Every single day.
• 14:12
  Mark Spence: Today I read Proverbs chapter seven to six and seven.
• 14:15
  Mark Spence: Today it just scares me to fall into it.
• 14:19
  Ray Comfort: So that's just a young man and just gives straight advice to young man about the harsh woman, loose women, right yeah.
• 14:26
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, mark, it's so good to be in that place as men, to recognize that we are capable.
• 14:35
  Emeal Zwayne: I think honestly I've said it before those who end up falling.
• 14:39
  Emeal Zwayne: I believe in the sexual sin are those that in part I mean they're different reasons, but those in part who deceive themselves into thinking now, that can never happen to me.
• 14:48
  Ray Comfort: You gotta see yourself as a stick of dynamite and you don't need to be lit, yeah.
• 14:52
  Mark Spence: Yeah, in fact, that's what Scripture says there in Proverbs.
• 14:54
  Mark Spence: It says all that fell her way were strong men.
• 14:57
  Mark Spence: Wow, Well, yeah.
• 14:59
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, and it continues on.
• 15:02
  Emeal Zwayne: You know, back in the day it was going on with top political leaders, presidents, obviously all over the place, but what I mean by that is but it was hidden.
• 15:13
  Emeal Zwayne: Hmm.
• 15:14
  Emeal Zwayne: You know it was almost.
• 15:16
  Emeal Zwayne: I mean, back in certain generations it was almost a given like oh, that's just, you know, that's how it is, and.
• 15:22
  Emeal Zwayne: But with our modern technology today, I mean even like I won't get graphic, but when we're their DNA evidences that people have committed adultery, I mean we all remember the whole thing with Bill Clinton.
• 15:35
  Ray Comfort: The blue skirt.
• 15:36
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, and we had looked up that video the other day because it came up about how he got technical, remember.
• 15:42
  Emeal Zwayne: You know they said you said there is no sexual this and that is that true and he goes.
• 15:48
  Emeal Zwayne: Well, it depends on what the meaning of is Is.
• 15:52
  Mark Spence: Oh, for that question.
• 15:52
  Mark Spence: Is that true?
• 15:54
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah Well, because he said there, because Clinton had said there is no physical intimacy.
• 15:59
  Emeal Zwayne: And then they said was that statement true?
• 16:01
  Emeal Zwayne: And he said it depends on what the meaning of is.
• 16:03
  Emeal Zwayne: Is yeah Right, like meaning?
• 16:06
  Emeal Zwayne: Like back when I said it it wasn't happening.
• 16:09
  Emeal Zwayne: I mean, these guys craft things and you know.
• 16:11
  Emeal Zwayne: But, ray, the Proverbs talk about a man who gets caught in adultery becoming like a crust of bread.
• 16:19
  Emeal Zwayne: Elaborate on that.
• 16:20
  Ray Comfort: Oh, that brings back a terrible memory, really.
• 16:23
  Emeal Zwayne: Share it.
• 16:24
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, it's very intimate Really.
• 16:25
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, I was teaching a group of men and I just said and I had a small loaf of bread on the pulpit, and I just said it was a notch brie farm.
• 16:33
  Ray Comfort: You know, indoors in the, in the one of the rooms, and I said a man, what's the scripture?
• 16:40
  Ray Comfort: Again, it's bought to a piece of bread by a loose woman or something like that.
• 16:44
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, I said.
• 16:45
  Ray Comfort: What does that mean?
• 16:45
  Ray Comfort: It means if she just wants to pick him up and eat him and spit him out, that's what happens.
• 16:52
  Ray Comfort: And I picked up the crust of bread while I was talking, took a bite of it and then we had to keep speaking and I couldn't, are you?
• 16:59
  Ray Comfort: serious, I'm serious, it took like eternity for the, because my mouth went dry with nervousness.
• 17:06
  Ray Comfort: It got soaked up by the bread.
• 17:07
  Ray Comfort: Everything was going oh no so, but it really is.
• 17:13
  Ray Comfort: That's what happens.
• 17:13
  Ray Comfort: So the thing that I brought out is a piece of bread, has got no resistance.
• 17:18
  Ray Comfort: You look at a piece of bread.
• 17:19
  Ray Comfort: I'm going to eat you right now, chew you up, and that's what a man is like to a harsh woman Going to eat you up.
• 17:24
  Ray Comfort: Buddy, and beware of the flattery of a woman like that.
• 17:28
  Ray Comfort: And you hear a woman go up to me and I you're a nice looking guy and he just melts.
• 17:33
  Mark Spence: You know it's demonic if they say it to you.
• 17:36
  Emeal Zwayne: Listen Proverbs 22, 14.
• 17:39
  Mark Spence: The interesting scripture, Proverbs 22, 14, is the mouth of an adulterous woman as a deep pit.
• 17:43
  Mark Spence: Here's the catcher.
• 17:45
  Mark Spence: Here A man who is under the Lord's wrath falls into it.
• 17:49
  Mark Spence: Wow.
• 17:50
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, that's heavy, it's sobering.
• 17:53
  Emeal Zwayne: And, friends, we trace this all the way back again to God's commandments, exodus 2014,.
• 17:58
  Emeal Zwayne: You shall not commit adultery.
• 18:01
  Emeal Zwayne: God is not an adulter.
• 18:03
  Emeal Zwayne: God is faithful.
• 18:04
  Emeal Zwayne: There's no wiggle room.
• 18:06
  Ray Comfort: There is there no, just four words.
• 18:08
  Ray Comfort: You shall yes Five.
• 18:11
  Oscar Navarro: And it's great that you bring that up.
• 18:14
  Oscar Navarro: It's a forward command.
• 18:15
  Oscar Navarro: There's no wiggle room and unfortunately I mean so many people, including Christians, seemingly tend to want to compromise and move the line a little bit.
• 18:26
  Oscar Navarro: A recent survey was done, and listen to these results.
• 18:29
  Oscar Navarro: Here's the question they asked, and this was only asked of self-proclaimed evangelicals how often, if ever, would you say the following activities would be cheating on a spouse or partner?
• 18:39
  Oscar Navarro: What would you say to these?
• 18:41
  Oscar Navarro: Watching pornography without your partner 31%.
• 18:44
  Oscar Navarro: Going to a strip club without your partner 37%.
• 18:47
  Oscar Navarro: Ps without your partner.
• 18:49
  Oscar Navarro: Why does that?
• 18:50
  Emeal Zwayne: matter Right?
• 18:51
  Emeal Zwayne: Hey, honey, you want to go to the strip club tonight?
• 18:54
  Emeal Zwayne: I don't understand.
• 18:55
  Oscar Navarro: That's a whole other conversation.
• 18:56
  Oscar Navarro: Going out to dinner with someone that you're attracted to 53%, only 53%.
• 19:01
  Oscar Navarro: Sending a flirtatious message to someone besides your partner, 58% being emotional Are these people that say it's wrong.
• 19:07
  Oscar Navarro: The percentage the percentage 58%.
• 19:09
  Oscar Navarro: Say that would be wrong.
• 19:10
  Oscar Navarro: Being emotionally involved with someone besides your partner 67%.
• 19:14
  Oscar Navarro: How about 100%?
• 19:16
  Oscar Navarro: Actively maintaining an online dating profile while married?
• 19:21
  Oscar Navarro: 68%.
• 19:22
  Oscar Navarro: Sending sexually explicit messages to someone other than your partner 75%.
• 19:28
  Oscar Navarro: How is that not 100%?
• 19:30
  Oscar Navarro: Romantically kissing someone other than your partner?
• 19:33
  Oscar Navarro: 78%.
• 19:35
  Oscar Navarro: Having a one night stand with someone other than your partner 77%.
• 19:39
  Oscar Navarro: Having a regular sexual relations with someone other than your partner 82%.
• 19:45
  Oscar Navarro: The last one is would you be more likely or less likely to support a presidential candidate who has, in the past, committed extramarital affairs?
• 19:55
  Oscar Navarro: Only 43%.
• 19:56
  Oscar Navarro: So we are moving this line.
• 19:59
  Oscar Navarro: This line is being moved that we just don't care.
• 20:02
  Emeal Zwayne: Well, and look at what's happening in culture with polyamory.
• 20:07
  Ray Comfort: Who's she who?
• 20:10
  Emeal Zwayne: The whole thing of polyamory.
• 20:11
  Emeal Zwayne: Do you know what polyamory is?
• 20:13
  Ray Comfort: It's multiple sexual partners with the consent of your spouse.
• 20:17
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, it's all of them living together.
• 20:19
  Emeal Zwayne: Sometimes You'll have three men and two women, or a man and three women, or two.
• 20:22
  Emeal Zwayne: It's just as crazy.
• 20:24
  Ray Comfort: There's nothing new under the sun, though, is there this?
• 20:26
  Emeal Zwayne: is true.
• 20:26
  Emeal Zwayne: And yet, you see, with even people like Will Smith, right, they talk about he and his wife having an open relationship.
• 20:36
  Emeal Zwayne: That's become a common term now, an open relationship, which means we're still married, we still love each other, but we're going to do that.
• 20:44
  Emeal Zwayne: I mean, there was a guy that used to be a pastor that Mark and I know, and he was doing this podcast or something he talked about.
• 20:51
  Emeal Zwayne: He and his wife were committed to each other, but if they end up being really attracted to someone once in a while, they'll give each other a hall pass.
• 20:57
  Emeal Zwayne: He called it.
• 20:58
  Mark Spence: What is that he was a senior pastor.
• 21:01
  Emeal Zwayne: Absolutely heartbreaking and tragic, yeah, so Like a hell pass.
• 21:05
  Emeal Zwayne: But that's what's happening in our culture and in our society.
• 21:09
  Emeal Zwayne: It's becoming this thing where marriage doesn't mean anything anymore.
• 21:14
  Emeal Zwayne: And who could be so twisted in their mind to share their wife with other men, wives sharing their husbands with other women?
• 21:21
  Emeal Zwayne: I don't know.
• 21:24
  Emeal Zwayne: It's just.
• 21:25
  Emeal Zwayne: God help us.
• 21:26
  Emeal Zwayne: There's nothing new, but it seems like it's getting worse, worse than ever.
• 21:33
  Emeal Zwayne: A desensitization of heart and mind.
• 21:36
  Emeal Zwayne: Listen to this.
• 21:37
  Emeal Zwayne: This is by Ken Hughes, he said recently, leadership Magazine commissioned a poll of a thousand pastors.
• 21:42
  Emeal Zwayne: The pastors indicated that 12% of them had committed adultery, while in ministry, one out of eight 12% One out of eight pastors and 23% had done something they considered sexually inappropriate.
• 21:57
  Emeal Zwayne: Christianity Today surveyed a thousand of its subscribers who were not pastors and found the figure to be nearly double, with 23% saying they had had extramarital intercourse and 45% indicating they had done something they themselves deemed sexually inappropriate.
• 22:11
  Emeal Zwayne: One in four Christian men are unfaithful and nearly one half have behaved unbecomingly Shocking statistics, especially when we remember that Christianity Today readers tend to be college educated church leaders, elders, deacons, sunday school superintendents and teachers.
• 22:26
  Emeal Zwayne: If this is so for the church's leadership, how much more for the average member of the congregation?
• 22:32
  Ray Comfort: Couldn't you double those statistics, realizing that these were the ones that had committed adultery but suddenly became honest about it?
• 22:40
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, that's true.
• 22:41
  Ray Comfort: I mean how many?
• 22:42
  Emeal Zwayne: are really being upright about it and telling the truth.
• 22:45
  Emeal Zwayne: So it's a massive problem and this is in part why I wrote my book Fight Like a man I'm about to say.
• 22:53
  Oscar Navarro: what we need is some sort of like bold biblical battle plan for personal purity.
• 23:03
  Emeal Zwayne: That's what we need.
• 23:03
  Emeal Zwayne: Yes, friends, it will be coming out.
• 23:05
  Emeal Zwayne: Publisher has it.
• 23:06
  Emeal Zwayne: They're working on it, so keep a lookout.
• 23:08
  Emeal Zwayne: But that's one of the reasons why I wrote the book, because we have a massive problem and it we don't.
• 23:17
  Oscar Navarro: Well, I'd love to hear your thoughts on this EZ, because I have to imagine that for most people it doesn't start with adultery.
• 23:26
  Oscar Navarro: It starts way beforehand with the compromising of lust, pornography.
• 23:31
  Oscar Navarro: Talk about that space Before the adultery.
• 23:36
  Oscar Navarro: What is happening?
• 23:37
  Oscar Navarro: How are we conditioning our hearts to get there?
• 23:40
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, well, there's a famous saying Marcus quoted it.
• 23:42
  Emeal Zwayne: Often, before a person sins in public, he sinned a long time before that in private.
• 23:47
  Emeal Zwayne: I think it is this strong pull of sexual desire which is very strong.
• 23:55
  Emeal Zwayne: In my book I talk about how it gives nuclear power a run for its money.
• 24:00
  Emeal Zwayne: It destroys kingdoms, it ruins families, it destroys careers.
• 24:08
  Emeal Zwayne: It's like for most men, it's like the urge to eat.
• 24:16
  Emeal Zwayne: You're starving and you're famished.
• 24:18
  Emeal Zwayne: So there's so much that happens leading up to it and, as Ray often says, ultimately it comes down to the fear of God.
• 24:25
  Emeal Zwayne: It comes down to that decision of saying, no, I'm going to fear and honor the Lord.
• 24:30
  Emeal Zwayne: Yes, I have this urge, I have this drive, but my God is worthy of my life.
• 24:34
  Emeal Zwayne: And you develop this healthy, godly habit, ray.
• 24:39
  Emeal Zwayne: You often go to the spiritual aspect of the law Matthew 5, 27 to 28.
• 24:43
  Emeal Zwayne: You have heard that it was said to those of old you shall not commit adultery.
• 24:46
  Emeal Zwayne: But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
• 24:53
  Emeal Zwayne: Ray, the danger is that we carry with us wherever we go this instinct, capacity to give in to adultery, to sexual sin, because of our minds and our hearts.
• 25:05
  Ray Comfort: For us a Christian.
• 25:05
  Ray Comfort: I was so consumed by sexual lust as a teenager a late teenager that I thought I had some sort of gift.
• 25:12
  Ray Comfort: Really, I thought it was like maybe a gift from God or something like that I could instantly have pleasure with any female in my mind, which every guy can do, and that was the power of lust.
• 25:23
  Ray Comfort: And when I became a Christian that's the verse that brought me to the foot of the cross I realized, man, my mind is full of adultery.
• 25:30
  Ray Comfort: No one knew about me and the Lord I get so many people reproved me of quoting that verse and saying you idiot, that doesn't mean looking with lust, it's to do with adultery.
• 25:41
  Ray Comfort: If you look at a married woman with lust, that's committing adultery in your heart.
• 25:46
  Ray Comfort: You don't even understand this and I have to write back in a very cynical way and say okay, I see what you're saying.
• 25:52
  Ray Comfort: What you've got to do is figure out the woman that you're going to lust after are married.
• 25:56
  Ray Comfort: So what do you do?
• 25:57
  Ray Comfort: You look at a woman and go up to her and say excuse me, ma'am, I was thinking of lusting after you, but I want to know if you're married, because if you're married, I won't lust after you.
• 26:04
  Ray Comfort: If you're not married, I can lust after you.
• 26:06
  Ray Comfort: So are you married or not?
• 26:07
  Ray Comfort: And you have to do the same thing with pornography.
• 26:09
  Ray Comfort: You've got to make sure all the women you're looking at are single women and not married women, and that's to get away from the words of Jesus.
• 26:16
  Ray Comfort: Whoever looks upon a woman to lust for her, whoever has committed adultery already with her in his heart.
• 26:24
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, and oftentimes I'll be in a public place and I'll see a pretty woman walk by and I'll start looking at the men that are around and it's just so ubiquitous.
• 26:35
  Emeal Zwayne: It's almost like metal being drawn to a magnet and you just see almost every man's eyes just begin to follow this woman and man.
• 26:46
  Emeal Zwayne: There's stuff happening there in the imagination that is an abomination on the side of the Lord.
• 26:52
  Emeal Zwayne: And.
• 26:52
  Emeal Zwayne: Mark.
• 26:53
  Emeal Zwayne: A lot of people again excuse it because they say, hey, what is a thought going to do to harm anything?
• 27:00
  Emeal Zwayne: Leave me alone.
• 27:01
  Emeal Zwayne: This is what I want to do in my own mind.
• 27:02
  Mark Spence: Yeah, We've said before.
• 27:04
  Mark Spence: Chuck Swindall was famous for saying you know, you're so a thought, you reap an action.
• 27:07
  Mark Spence: So an action, reap a habit.
• 27:09
  Mark Spence: So a habit, reap a character, so a character, you reap a destiny.
• 27:12
  Mark Spence: It all starts within that mind.
• 27:15
  Mark Spence: You entertain that thought.
• 27:17
  Mark Spence: Somebody once said you can't prevent a bird from flying over your head, Spurgeon.
• 27:21
  Emeal Zwayne: So you can prevent them from building a nest
• 27:24
  Mark Spence: in your head, martin Luther or Spurgeon.
• 27:26
  Ray Comfort: Spurgeon quoted it he might have quoted Luther yeah.
• 27:29
  Ray Comfort: But it's really powerful.
• 27:30
  Ray Comfort: Start again, Mark, because someone interrupted.
• 27:32
  Mark Spence: I don't remember it.
• 27:33
  Mark Spence: Heath Lambert, though.
• 27:34
  Mark Spence: He said this is the vicious cycle of lust, because lust never has what it wants, because it never has enough.
• 27:42
  Mark Spence: Lust steals joy by creating an endless state of discontentment in the constant search for that one next thing that you don't have yet.
• 27:52
  Mark Spence: Lust is never happy because lust is never full.
• 27:56
  Mark Spence: There's a hole at the bottom of the cup.
• 27:58
  Ray Comfort: So let me share the quality of that quote so people don't miss it with my interruption.
• 28:01
  Ray Comfort: You can't stop birds from flying over your head, but you can stop them from making a nest in your hair.
• 28:07
  Mark Spence: And what does that mean?
• 28:08
  Mark Spence: Draw that out.
• 28:09
  Ray Comfort: So you get a lustful thought, you just don't own it.
• 28:13
  Ray Comfort: You don't grab it and chew it over and let it become part of you.
• 28:17
  Ray Comfort: I've dealt with lust in a wonderful way.
• 28:19
  Ray Comfort: Many years ago.
• 28:20
  Ray Comfort: I had surgery on my eyes laser surgery and they give you an option get both eyes done and you can't see in the distance, but you can see up closely.
• 28:28
  Ray Comfort: Or get one eye done and you can see in the distance and you can read it.
• 28:33
  Ray Comfort: So I got one eye done, which means when I look at the distance with my right eye it goes blurry.
• 28:37
  Ray Comfort: So when I see a lust woman I just close an eye like that and she tends in an instant blur.
• 28:42
  Ray Comfort: But I do get slapped a lot.
• 28:43
  Mark Spence: Because you're a venging and weak Ray.
• 28:46
  Mark Spence: Was it you the one that told me that every time you feel that temptation, you pray for wisdom?
• 28:52
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, you pray a negative, a positive, sorry.
• 28:54
  Ray Comfort: I look at the sky and just say cool, that sky is that God has made.
• 28:58
  Ray Comfort: Distract myself, because once they're out of sight, they're out of mind.
• 29:02
  Ray Comfort: It really does help to just look away, but it's very hard for women to understand, like Ezy was saying, the nuclear power thing.
• 29:10
  Ray Comfort: It really is true.
• 29:11
  Ray Comfort: You're driving your car and I can see a lusty woman from 15 miles away and I just got to be so careful.
• 29:18
  Oscar Navarro: That was a mountain.
• 29:19
  Oscar Navarro: Your eyes were blue.
• 29:22
  Ray Comfort: So even at my age and guys, the fire does not go out.
• 29:27
  Ray Comfort: It gets worse as you get older.
• 29:28
  Ray Comfort: I'm coming up 74 and I'm talking about, I'm fighting lust daily.
• 29:31
  Ray Comfort: It's crazy.
• 29:32
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, it's a reality.
• 29:34
  Emeal Zwayne: And yet we grow in the Lord, we grow in His grace.
• 29:39
  Emeal Zwayne: He strengthens us, he empowers us, he enables us and we can find victory through Christ.
• 29:44
  Emeal Zwayne: I mean, that's the good news.
• 29:45
  Emeal Zwayne: I know there are guys listening to us right now and thinking, man, is there really hope for me?
• 29:50
  Ray Comfort: Well, you don't feed it.
• 29:51
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, that's the thing.
• 29:52
  Emeal Zwayne: They're ensnared in pornography and that's a tragedy.
• 29:56
  Emeal Zwayne: Today, with a click of a button I mean it used to be guys had to go to their computer and you know?
• 30:02
  Ray Comfort: no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
• 30:03
  Ray Comfort: You're talking your generation, I'm talking pregeneration.
• 30:07
  Ray Comfort: You had to go to a magazine, you had to get it.
• 30:10
  Ray Comfort: It wasn't even legal.
• 30:11
  Emeal Zwayne: Well, that was my generation.
• 30:12
  Emeal Zwayne: You had to get it from under the counter.
• 30:14
  Emeal Zwayne: That's what you get pornography called under the counter, and so you had to go to a lot of you know to get something in your hands that people can get within a second, I mean as a teenager, you had to steal it because you had to be 18 to buy it, or your friend's dad had a stash somewhere videos or magazines or but now these young people, with the click of a button in their hand, wherever they are, at any time, an unlimited supply of this pornography.
• 30:41
  Oscar Navarro: Here's.
• 30:41
  Oscar Navarro: Another reality, too, though, is that, as it pertains to adultery, it's not always the physical that draws people, sometimes, especially for women, because actually, I was surprised to read that women are the leaders of divorce and adultery right now.
• 30:54
  Oscar Navarro: So it's not men that are committing adultery more, it's women committing adultery more, and they say that more often than not, with what starts the adultery is an emotional affair.
• 31:05
  Oscar Navarro: In other words, you feel the emotional detachment from your spouse.
• 31:10
  Oscar Navarro: You feel unseen, unheard, unknown, unloved, and it begins with companionship.
• 31:18
  Oscar Navarro: This person understands me, this person listens to me, this person knows me the way my spouse does not.
• 31:27
  Oscar Navarro: In either scenario, whether it's physical lust or it's the lust because lust ultimately, the original word lust simply means desire.
• 31:36
  Oscar Navarro: It's a wrongfully placed desire for the physical, for the emotional, for the attention.
• 31:45
  Oscar Navarro: Here's the thing We've already alluded to this that our desires are so often misplaced.
• 31:51
  Oscar Navarro: What we need is not always what we think we need.
• 31:56
  Oscar Navarro: In other words, sometimes we want the thing that we actually don't need.
• 32:00
  Oscar Navarro: The problem is that, as we pursue wrongful desires, as we pursue lust, they will leave us thirsty, wanting more and more and more, more and more, constantly unsatisfied.
• 32:13
  Oscar Navarro: I love how the New Testament uses the phrase living water.
• 32:17
  Oscar Navarro: If you think about the meaning of that phrase for us to really grasp it.
• 32:22
  Oscar Navarro: We can't do that where we live now because we have water in abundance.
• 32:26
  Oscar Navarro: These are people that lived in the desert who were always thinking about where their next drink was going to be, or they would die.
• 32:34
  Oscar Navarro: Much of the water they drank was still water.
• 32:37
  Oscar Navarro: It wasn't good water.
• 32:38
  Oscar Navarro: The idea of living water was fresh, flowing, cold, in abundance.
• 32:45
  Oscar Navarro: What Jesus is saying is that if you pursue these lusts, if you pursue this desires, you will be left thirsty.
• 32:54
  Oscar Navarro: But only I, jesus, can fulfill those desires.
• 32:59
  Oscar Navarro: Only I, jesus, is the living water.
• 33:03
  Oscar Navarro: Whether you are feeling lonely or wanting, the only fulfillment you will ever find for yourself is in Christ.
• 33:11
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, it's a whole issue of spiritual starvation I've talked about before In the natural.
• 33:16
  Emeal Zwayne: You deprive yourself of your normal diet, your hunger pains will intensify, your cravings will increase.
• 33:22
  Emeal Zwayne: You must satisfy that craving.
• 33:25
  Emeal Zwayne: We substitute, we go to things that we would never normally eat.
• 33:29
  Emeal Zwayne: That's why people starving will eat bark off of trees or eat leaves, or eat rats, roaches.
• 33:34
  Emeal Zwayne: They'll eat human beings, right, the whole story alive, with that rugby team, the plane crash.
• 33:40
  Emeal Zwayne: They were stuck, they were hungry.
• 33:42
  Emeal Zwayne: They ended up eating the people that died.
• 33:43
  Emeal Zwayne: I mean, no one does that in their right mind.
• 33:45
  Emeal Zwayne: But it's that process of starvation, it's first deprivation that leads to desperation, that leads to deviation, which is substitution, that leads to deterioration.
• 33:56
  Emeal Zwayne: We must satisfy ourselves in Christ because we have spiritual cravings meant to be satisfied by him.
• 34:01
  Emeal Zwayne: If we don't like, the proverb says right, To the satisfied soul even the honeycomb is loathsome, but to the hungry soul every bitter thing is sweet.
• 34:13
  Mark Spence: You know what will a hungry man eat?
• 34:14
  Mark Spence: Anything.
• 34:15
  Mark Spence: If he's hungry enough, he'll eat anything.
• 34:17
  Mark Spence: Who grew up in sharing with my kids trying to get into their lives when they're really little and young, trying to figure out as they're trying to figure out the opposite sex and they feel this attraction going on and say, hey, it's okay to feel that pull.
• 34:34
  Mark Spence: It's just what do you do with that pull?
• 34:36
  Mark Spence: How do you respond?
• 34:37
  Mark Spence: How do you interpret all of that?
• 34:39
  Mark Spence: And then, as they got on into their teenage years and started getting interested in different people and they're hanging out more and they're just kind of figuring things out.
• 34:49
  Mark Spence: I have my daughter.
• 34:52
  Mark Spence: Ella is in a relationship with a guy named Ryan and absolutely love Ryan to death.
• 34:56
  Mark Spence: How about Ella?
• 34:58
  Mark Spence: You love her, I kind of love my daughter.
• 35:02
  Mark Spence: But in just simply saying, what is your view on kissing, what is your view on you know, in just going down the whole realm there and just explaining to him, I go, listen, you've been designed to go all the way to have sex.
• 35:17
  Mark Spence: You've been designed like a.
• 35:18
  Mark Spence: Sex is a beautiful, beautiful thing, designed by God.
• 35:22
  Mark Spence: When you get married, people bring you gifts.
• 35:24
  Mark Spence: God is bringing you a gift when you get married and that gift is sex and unfortunately, people open up that gift before it's time and it spoils the gift.
• 35:34
  Mark Spence: So avoid that gift, opening that gift early.
• 35:37
  Mark Spence: And how you can avoid that is just avoid all the things that lead up to that.
• 35:41
  Mark Spence: There's nothing you need to do If you're watching a movie.
• 35:44
  Mark Spence: You don't need to be sharing a blanket, you don't need to be kissing on the lips.
• 35:47
  Mark Spence: You don't just wait.
• 35:49
  Mark Spence: Just wait, because all of these things have been progressed inside of you to lead towards sex and if you have these feelings begin to stir up inside of you, you will not be able to be strong enough to resist those temptations, that's true.
• 36:05
  Mark Spence: So you just need to run, run from it all.
• 36:08
  Mark Spence: Set the boundary right from the beginning.
• 36:09
  Mark Spence: If you go, well, how far is too far?
• 36:11
  Mark Spence: If you're asking that question, how far is too far?
• 36:13
  Mark Spence: You've already gone too far in your mind.
• 36:15
  Mark Spence: Because it's not how much can I do and still be a Christian?
• 36:18
  Mark Spence: It's how much can I abstain from all of these things that are just worldly in appearance and walk with God?
• 36:27
  Mark Spence: That's what I want.
• 36:27
  Mark Spence: It's not thinking through these things.
• 36:29
  Mark Spence: How much can I do?
• 36:30
  Mark Spence: But it's man, how fast can I run and just keep my eyes on the Lord.
• 36:34
  Mark Spence: I heard one Christian singer once say look, I'm not going to be caught up with women and the people of this nature.
• 36:40
  Mark Spence: What I'm going to do is I'm going to run so hard after God and when I'm ready to get married, I'm going to look to the left and look to the right and see if there's somebody that kept up with me in my pursuit of Christ, and I'm going to marry that person, and marry them as quickly as I possibly can.
• 36:53
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh, so good.
• 36:54
  Emeal Zwayne: Hey Ray, I'd love you to elaborate on this.
• 36:57
  Emeal Zwayne: Proverbs 6, beginning of verse 32, whoever commits adultery with a woman lacks understanding.
• 37:04
  Emeal Zwayne: He who does so destroys his own soul, wounds and dishonor he will get, and his reproach will not be wiped away.
• 37:11
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, Well, I was hearing your thought while Mark was speaking.
• 37:15
  Ray Comfort: We'll go further on to that in a minute, but it's hard to put these appropriately.
• 37:21
  Ray Comfort: But if you stir up sexual desire, especially in teenage years, that fire will consume your conscience.
• 37:27
  Ray Comfort: You think you've got a tender conscience that would never steal, you'd never lie to Sonya parents.
• 37:33
  Ray Comfort: But when that fire, that sexual desire is there, conscience just takes a backseat.
• 37:38
  Ray Comfort: So true, and you'll do things that you look back and say was I out of my mind?
• 37:42
  Ray Comfort: And really you're out of your mind.
• 37:44
  Ray Comfort: That's what.
• 37:44
  Ray Comfort: That's what sexual desire does.
• 37:45
  Ray Comfort: It's meant for the joys of marriage and it's meant to consume you and it's meant for love and yeah, I mean.
• 37:52
  Emeal Zwayne: I mean.
• 37:52
  Emeal Zwayne: The proverb says be always enraptured with her love.
• 37:56
  Emeal Zwayne: It gets more graphic than that.
• 37:57
  Ray Comfort: No, I'll let it be graphic, because I remember doing that reading with my family.
• 38:01
  Ray Comfort: Do you remember that story?
• 38:02
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, yeah, we're going through.
• 38:04
  Ray Comfort: Probably probably Well.
• 38:05
  Emeal Zwayne: I guess parents will see the topic as some young, a lot of young people listen to this podcast.
• 38:09
  Emeal Zwayne: But yeah, I mean.
• 38:10
  Emeal Zwayne: It says let her breath satisfy you at all times.
• 38:12
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, but when we're having a reading in Proverbs, proverbs 6, I think it is.
• 38:16
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, I just said to Jacob, who's my oldest, no.
• 38:19
  Ray Comfort: I said to Sue do you want to read the next verse?
• 38:21
  Ray Comfort: Because that's right.
• 38:22
  Ray Comfort: She says no.
• 38:23
  Ray Comfort: So I should have just said read it.
• 38:25
  Ray Comfort: So I said to Jacob, who's my oldest, would you want to read the next verse?
• 38:28
  Ray Comfort: And he said no.
• 38:29
  Ray Comfort: And then I said to Rachel and Daniel was no one wanted to read it?
• 38:33
  Ray Comfort: We just had to let them.
• 38:34
  Ray Comfort: Well, I said I think that, yeah, it's actually a great thing to read to a non-Christian.
• 38:39
  Ray Comfort: So you know, the Bible says the best place for sex is in bed.
• 38:41
  Ray Comfort: Bed is under filed and it says enjoy the breast of your wife.
• 38:45
  Ray Comfort: The Bible is unashamedly an instruction book and it tells you just stay with them, the confines of marriage.
• 38:49
  Ray Comfort: If your, if your dad gives you a Lamborghini and says son, you just stay on the right side of the road, that's all I ask.
• 38:55
  Ray Comfort: And you go on the wrong side of the road, he's got the right, take the keys back and God gives us sex as a wonderful gift of pleasure and procreation and just says stay on the right side of the road.
• 39:05
  Ray Comfort: Well, marriage.
• 39:06
  Oscar Navarro: Yeah, I think that's an important verse.
• 39:07
  Oscar Navarro: And if you think about, like, how, how can we apply that to ourselves?
• 39:10
  Oscar Navarro: And speaking specifically to men who are married, and one of the ways that we don't do a good job of that is when we start comparing and you cannot look at pornography, you cannot look at other women walking on the street that are not your wife and not help but compare.
• 39:26
  Oscar Navarro: When you do that, inevitably what's going to happen is you're going to be unsatisfied with what God has given to you to be your portion.
• 39:36
  Oscar Navarro: And I remember specifically after Kelly had a camera, what baby, baby two or baby three.
• 39:41
  Oscar Navarro: I remember at one point shortly after that she was like, oh, you know, my body isn't what it used to be.
• 39:47
  Oscar Navarro: And I was like, hey, I'm not comparing you to other women and I'm not comparing you to who you were when I married you.
• 39:54
  Oscar Navarro: What I have in front of me is what the Lord has given me, and that's like to be able to say that to your wife, because you're not comparing them to anybody else, is a gift to her and it's a satisfying gift to yourself.
• 40:08
  Oscar Navarro: Well put.
• 40:09
  Ray Comfort: I heard a preacher once talking about the fifth commandment on your father and mother and he said young man, you despise your mother when she gave up a figure to bear you Wow.
• 40:19
  Emeal Zwayne: That's powerful.
• 40:20
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, and you know, let me just say we're so hesitant oftentimes, as Christians, to talk about sex, and it's because of how Satan has twisted it, how our carnal nature has really tarnished it.
• 40:34
  Emeal Zwayne: Sex is beautiful.
• 40:37
  Emeal Zwayne: It was God's idea, it's his design.
• 40:40
  Emeal Zwayne: I mean, you think about it?
• 40:41
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, human life that bears the holy image of God is created through it.
• 40:51
  Emeal Zwayne: Those children that we would give our lives for were produced through that beautiful act.
• 40:56
  Emeal Zwayne: So there should be no shame.
• 40:57
  Emeal Zwayne: And when we talked to our kids about sex when they were young and we taught them about it, we purposed, as I've shared before, to give them the right perception of it from the very beginning.
• 41:10
  Emeal Zwayne: When we even told them we were going to talk to them about it, we said hey, kids, tonight we have something amazing to talk to you about.
• 41:16
  Emeal Zwayne: You know, most parents like, oh, you know that talk, they're like getting all nervous and oh, you know, no, no, we determined proactively.
• 41:23
  Emeal Zwayne: We said we're going to say we're going to talk about something so beautiful, so exciting.
• 41:28
  Emeal Zwayne: Because the analogy I've shared, that others have shared, that right our children's minds they're like an empty warehouse with empty shelves, and whoever gets there and stocks those shelves first is going to make it harder for the other person to unstock and restock.
• 41:42
  Emeal Zwayne: So we wanted their first impressions to be beautiful and positive, and so we sat down with them, we took them through these little books and just, oh, it's beautiful, it's God's gift, but within the confines of marriage.
• 41:53
  Ray Comfort: Is he?
• 41:53
  Ray Comfort: I've heard you talk about how everybody sends off a couple on their honeymoon, rejoicing knowing exactly what they're going to do.
• 42:01
  Ray Comfort: Can you address that from it?
• 42:04
  Emeal Zwayne: Well, yeah, I mean, it's just crazy to think you know that are going off to the honeymoon and everyone is like, yep, that's where they're going.
• 42:11
  Emeal Zwayne: It's like everyone knows.
• 42:12
  Emeal Zwayne: I remember talking about their honeymoon.
• 42:14
  Emeal Zwayne: It's like, ah, you know, it's like you know, what are you guys going to do on your honeymoon?
• 42:19
  Ray Comfort: Duh right, but you compare that to someone who's shaking up and it's a shameful thing.
• 42:24
  Ray Comfort: But it's just an unashamed rejoicing this couple's going to enjoy the marital bed.
• 42:28
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, it's beautiful.
• 42:30
  Emeal Zwayne: God designed it, he made it, and I think honestly, as Christians and this is as an encouragement to those of you listening who you know are thinking what can I do to guard my marriage against adultery?
• 42:40
  Emeal Zwayne: Be together, as 1 Corinthians 7 talks about, regularly, and pursue excellence in your intimacy.
• 42:47
  Emeal Zwayne: Why is that we, as Christians, you know, think about and talk about pursuing excellence and everything, but we kind of segregate intimacy and don't think that way or talk.
• 42:56
  Emeal Zwayne: Are you kidding me?
• 42:57
  Emeal Zwayne: This is a gift God has given you as a couple for a lifetime.
• 43:00
  Emeal Zwayne: You need to learn to enhance it, to discuss it, to improve it, to pursue it with excellence and to glorify God in it, because you can.
• 43:09
  Oscar Navarro: You're reminding me of it, which is Rebecca McLaughlin in her book Confronting Christianity.
• 43:13
  Oscar Navarro: It's like chapter three or four.
• 43:15
  Oscar Navarro: From remembering correctly, it's called the miracle drug.
• 43:18
  Oscar Navarro: Is the chapter.
• 43:19
  Oscar Navarro: And essentially what she does, she goes through and she says like people think like, oh you know, christianity sounds so dull, sounds so boring, it takes away all the joys.
• 43:27
  Oscar Navarro: And she quotes this secular survey in which goes around surveying all sorts of people, groups, about who is satisfied in their sexual lives.
• 43:36
  Oscar Navarro: They ask polyamorous, they ask single people who are sexually active, married couples.
• 43:42
  Oscar Navarro: The number one group that showed the highest rate of sexual satisfaction was married Christians who regularly attend church.
• 43:54
  Oscar Navarro: In other words, christianity is not a buzzkill, is what she says in the book, but instead an invitation to ultimate joy.
• 44:04
  Oscar Navarro: And then she goes on to quote see this Lewis I know I've used this before in the past.
• 44:08
  Oscar Navarro: See it's.
• 44:09
  Oscar Navarro: Lewis says it like this it would seem that our Lord finds our desires not too strong but too weak.
• 44:15
  Oscar Navarro: We are half hearted creatures fooling about with drink and sex and ambition when infinite joy is offered us, like an ignorant child who wants to go on making mud pies in a slum because he cannot imagine what is meant by the offer of a holiday at sea.
• 44:38
  Oscar Navarro: We are far too easily pleased.
• 44:42
  Oscar Navarro: Do you see that God is not trying to hold back joy.
• 44:46
  Oscar Navarro: Rather, he's inviting us into joy, and we can trust him that he'll deliver Right man.
• 44:54
  Mark Spence: Sam Storms.
• 44:55
  Mark Spence: He said don't believe the propaganda the world is peddling.
• 44:59
  Mark Spence: This is not God's way of robbing you of fun and pleasure.
• 45:02
  Mark Spence: It is his passionate desire to intensify it.
• 45:05
  Mark Spence: This prohibition exists in order to protect and preserve the beauty and the joy of marital sex.
• 45:12
  Mark Spence: Our laws against theft and murder exist because of the high value we place on personal property and human life.
• 45:19
  Mark Spence: So too, with this prohibition against illicit sex, the purpose is to guard and to preserve and to enhance something far more exciting and full and fun pleasure, namely marital love.
• 45:36
  Emeal Zwayne: Amen.
• 45:37
  Emeal Zwayne: Wow, that's beautiful.
• 45:38
  Emeal Zwayne: In connection with what Oscar shared.
• 45:41
  Emeal Zwayne: The reason why sexual intimacy is so enjoyable in a Christian marriage is because you have a couple that have a common bond and his name is Christ.
• 45:49
  Emeal Zwayne: They both love him and as they draw closer to him, they draw closer to each other.
• 45:53
  Emeal Zwayne: In addition to that, there's the foundation of trust, because they both fear God.
• 45:58
  Emeal Zwayne: There's a commonality of their faith and their love for the Lord and their unity in the community of God's people.
• 46:05
  Emeal Zwayne: So there was an analogy given of a couple who are just fighting and have acrimony between them.
• 46:10
  Emeal Zwayne: Each time they do that, it's like they're dumping a big bag of garbage in their bed Like all day, and it's piling, piling.
• 46:17
  Emeal Zwayne: Then they expect to come and be intimate in that bed at the end of the day.
• 46:21
  Emeal Zwayne: No way.
• 46:21
  Emeal Zwayne: There's that foundation of loving the Lord that creates that closeness, and I know we didn't end up expounding on it.
• 46:28
  Emeal Zwayne: But that verse in Proverbs 6 about he who commits adultery with a woman lacks understanding.
• 46:33
  Emeal Zwayne: That's what it is.
• 46:34
  Emeal Zwayne: There's a lack of understanding about how this dishonors God, about how this marrs the testimony of the gospel, about how this destroys your children and your grandchildren and generations to come.
• 46:46
  Emeal Zwayne: And it takes something beautiful and desecrates it.
• 46:50
  Emeal Zwayne: And those who commit adultery, yeah, their reproach will not be wiped away.
• 46:53
  Emeal Zwayne: But but there is hope and there is grace in the Lord.
• 46:59
  Emeal Zwayne: John 8, the woman caught in the act of adultery, in the very act, and they came to stone her, and Jesus has mercy on her.
• 47:11
  Emeal Zwayne: He does the whole writing in the sand thing and then he says to her where are your accusers?
• 47:16
  Emeal Zwayne: Does no one condemn you?
• 47:17
  Emeal Zwayne: No one, lord, neither do I condemn you.
• 47:19
  Emeal Zwayne: Go and sin no more.
• 47:21
  Emeal Zwayne: I mean, can you imagine that the freedom that woman fell when Jesus told her something you just did that was worthy of death, is fully forgiven, fully gone?
• 47:31
  Emeal Zwayne: And that's what he does by his grace.
• 47:34
  Ray Comfort: I like the thought that the law was written in stone.
• 47:36
  Ray Comfort: It's a movable, it's merciless, but Jesus wrote in sand and the sea of gods forget.
• 47:42
  Ray Comfort: We're going to wash us that sin away the moment we come to.
• 47:44
  Emeal Zwayne: Christ, amen.
• 47:45
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, and so, friends, if you're out there, my encouragement to you.
• 47:49
  Emeal Zwayne: If you're thinking, man, I'm tempted to commit adultery, I'm struggling with it, whether it's physical or whether it's through pornography, I want to urge you to flee from it.
• 47:57
  Emeal Zwayne: Wake up and recognize the devastating effects.
• 48:00
  Emeal Zwayne: It is not worth it.
• 48:02
  Emeal Zwayne: And you have the name of Christ upon you.
• 48:05
  Emeal Zwayne: You drag that name through the mud, you take the cross, you spit on it, you trample it beneath your feet, you say, through your actions and essence it means nothing.
• 48:14
  Emeal Zwayne: And I pray God convicts you today to wake up, to snap out of it, to remember that God's given you all things that pertain to life and godliness.
• 48:21
  Emeal Zwayne: And if you have committed adultery and you're convicted, now you see your sin, there is forgiveness for you and the Lord.
• 48:27
  Emeal Zwayne: There is hope, there is restoration.
• 48:29
  Emeal Zwayne: We've seen guys who committed adultery against their wives, wives against their husbands, and God took them, restored their marriage, made it stronger than ever before.
• 48:37
  Emeal Zwayne: That's what our God does, so let them do that in you, amen.
• 48:42
  Ray Comfort: No, funny at the end of this one.
• 48:44
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah Well, maybe not for this one.
• 48:46
  Emeal Zwayne: So check it all out, friends.
• 48:48
  Emeal Zwayne: I know they're people that are heavy-hearted now.
• 48:50
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• 48:53
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• 48:55
  Emeal Zwayne: Check out all the stuff I talked about at the beginning.
• 48:57
  Emeal Zwayne: Thank you for joining us.
• 48:58
  Emeal Zwayne: We'll see you here next time on the LivingWaters podcast.
• 49:00
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