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Tigers Winter Meetings Reaction: Is This The Right Path? · Tiger Territory: A Detroit Tigers Podcast

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  Speaker 1: And welcome into another episode of Tiger Territory, part of
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  Speaker 1: the Foul.
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  Speaker 2: Territory Network, a Detroit Tigers podcast.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Karen Steckley, and I got with me a couple
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  Speaker 1: of fellas that are so fly AI can't recreate Austin Jackson,
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  Speaker 1: Cody Stavin Hagen.
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  Speaker 2: What's up, guys? How are we doing?
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  Speaker 3: I think that plays to Austin a lot more than me.
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  Speaker 4: We got some Austin Jackson highlights that we've seen that
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  Speaker 4: I don't think AI can replicate that.
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  Speaker 2: That is true facts, That is true fact.
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  Speaker 1: So we're recording this Wednesday night, whinter meetings wrapping up,
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  Speaker 1: and we're just gonna get straight to the news here. Fellas,
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  Speaker 1: the Tigers did make a signing or they have a
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  Speaker 1: come to an agreement, I guess more more accurately. Cody
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  Speaker 1: Kyle Finnigan is returning to the Tigers to be, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the one of the back end guys. We know AJ
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  Speaker 1: doesn't like the C word in this case closer. And
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  Speaker 1: it's a two year deal, so a little bit different
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  Speaker 1: two year deal, not one, not a one plus one,
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  Speaker 1: A two year deal worth nineteen million. I guess it
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  Speaker 1: can get up to twenty So go to your thoughts
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  Speaker 1: and about Finnegan being kind of the prize of Winter
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  Speaker 1: Meetings so far for the Tigers.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I have a couple competing thoughts here. Number one,
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  Speaker 4: I kind of said, the Tigers probably need to come
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  Speaker 4: away from Winter Meetings with one quality relief pitcher.
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  Speaker 3: We know they were in on Finnegan in Fairbanks.
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  Speaker 4: I was a little worried, especially if Finnegan was seeking
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  Speaker 4: two years, that they weren't going to get it done.
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  Speaker 3: So they got it done. That's pretty good, right.
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  Speaker 4: Finnegan was very good for the Tigers out of the
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  Speaker 4: pin after the trade deadline, and he's going to help
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  Speaker 4: a bullpen that needs a lot of help. We know,
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  Speaker 4: we probably don't need to recap the stats. He started
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  Speaker 4: throwing the splitter a lot more, he got a lot
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  Speaker 4: more swing and miss.
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  Speaker 3: He was quality, not so quality.
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  Speaker 4: After he came back off the il and in the
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  Speaker 4: playoffs he allowed.
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  Speaker 3: Earned runs in his last three outings.
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  Speaker 4: But this is a guy who's been a good pitcher
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  Speaker 4: in the league, who has a lot of experience, who
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  Speaker 4: clearly wanted to come back to Detroit, wanted to play
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  Speaker 4: on a winning team.
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  Speaker 3: So they get it done. It helps the bullpen.
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  Speaker 4: It makes the team better, even if it is another
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  Speaker 4: member of the twenty twenty five team.
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  Speaker 3: That's just kind of reupping with the Tigers.
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  Speaker 4: My second thought is like, well, that's good, but two
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  Speaker 4: years nineteen million, even though I'm glad they got done,
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  Speaker 4: that's kind of a lot.
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  Speaker 3: It's kind of a lot for Kyle Finn again. It's
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  Speaker 3: a high bar.
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  Speaker 4: There's a slight part of me that worries the Tigers
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  Speaker 4: got like the best eighteen innings of Kyle Finn again's
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  Speaker 4: career before he went on the IL last year. He's
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  Speaker 4: gonna have to keep throwing that split. Well, I worry
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  Speaker 4: he's gonna have to mix in something else, the slider
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  Speaker 4: a little more, because it seemed like batter's pretty quickly
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  Speaker 4: adjusted learn to lay off that split. So two years,
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  Speaker 4: nineteen mil it's a pretty high bar for a leaf pitcher.
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  Speaker 4: We just saw Edwin Diaz get about twenty three million
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  Speaker 4: on a three year deal, so we're gonna see what happens.
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  Speaker 4: On one hand, glad that he's in this bullpen. Two,
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  Speaker 4: they still got more work to do in the bullpen. Three,
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  Speaker 4: how good is Kyle Finn again really going to be
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  Speaker 4: for the next two years a little bit of an
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  Speaker 4: open question.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So, like the way I kind of looked at it,
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  Speaker 1: is not re signing Kyle Finnigan when there was interest
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  Speaker 1: would have been looked at as an l all around, right, So, like,
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  Speaker 1: I think we can acknowledge that while also saying it.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he is gonna turn thirty five during the
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  Speaker 1: season next year, that's that's not that's not nothing in
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  Speaker 1: a two year deal. And again it's a very small
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  Speaker 1: sample size with what they tried to do last year
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  Speaker 1: with him. And then also, you know, it is kind
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  Speaker 1: of funny, you know, he's a trade deadline, trade deadline
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  Speaker 1: acquisition and he's obviously by far the best one they
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  Speaker 1: got the trade deadline with all those pitchers that they acquired,
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  Speaker 1: and thus far he is their most significant free agent
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  Speaker 1: addition to the team. So kind of a two time,
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  Speaker 1: two time for for Kyle Finnigan. It comes to up
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  Speaker 1: and with Detroit. But Austin, I am kind of curious
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  Speaker 1: your perspective on this as a guy who's been in
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  Speaker 1: clubhouses and and you know, and definitely you know, played
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  Speaker 1: for the Tigers for years of beloved teams with a
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  Speaker 1: lot of fan favorites and such Jack Flaherty decides to
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  Speaker 1: come back on exercises player option, Labor Torres accepts the
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  Speaker 1: qualifying offer, and Kyle Finnegan, a true free agent, decides
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  Speaker 1: to come back to Detroit.
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  Speaker 2: Is there anything to the notion.
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  Speaker 1: Of guys liking playing for the coaching staff, with the
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  Speaker 1: guys in the clubhouse, you know, the fans and the stands,
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  Speaker 1: the environment itself, competitive team, all that stuff. Does that
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  Speaker 1: stuff is that real? Like we say it? It could
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  Speaker 1: be cliche, but is that thing kind of like in general,
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  Speaker 1: like a real emotion that guys in these points in
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  Speaker 1: their careers feel and think about.
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  Speaker 5: Absolutely all of it's real. I mean, that's really like
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  Speaker 5: the biggest reason why I think guys would like to
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  Speaker 5: come back to a team, would like to resign with
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  Speaker 5: a team, is because of really all those things that
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  Speaker 5: you mentioned, the coaching staff, the clubhouse. I mean, if
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  Speaker 5: the clubhouse is a good fit for you, that can
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  Speaker 5: sell it right there. If you if you enjoy coming
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  Speaker 5: to the ball field each and every day being around
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  Speaker 5: the guys in the clubhouse, you know.
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  Speaker 6: Getting the the.
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  Speaker 5: Attention the instruction you need from the coaching staff, and
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  Speaker 5: and you know keeping you know, developing your game and
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  Speaker 5: also winning, right, I mean, they they're they're winning baseball.
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  Speaker 5: So I think all those things play hand in hand
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  Speaker 5: with wanting to go back to a team, are potentially
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  Speaker 5: signing with the new team. But I don't see that
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  Speaker 5: if if all those things, if all those things check
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  Speaker 5: the box, you want to be there and you want
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  Speaker 5: to be in a winning environment.
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  Speaker 6: And they they're showing.
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  Speaker 5: The past couple of years that that's what they're capable
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  Speaker 5: of doing, capable of getting to the playoffs and winning.
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  Speaker 6: So you want to be around that, Like, you want
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  Speaker 6: to be.
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  Speaker 5: On a team that's capable of getting to the playoffs
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  Speaker 5: each and every year because you know you ultimately at
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  Speaker 5: the end of the season, you have a good chance
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  Speaker 5: to win a championship.
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  Speaker 1: Well, okay, well on that on that note, as of
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  Speaker 1: now now, things can change and things you know, will change,
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  Speaker 1: But as of now, with those three moves, I just
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  Speaker 1: laid out in the fact that obviously the Tigers are
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  Speaker 1: you know, a very young team, especially you know, in
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  Speaker 1: the in the batting order. It kind of seems like
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty six is gonna look a lot like twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty five. And there's part part of that was awesome
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  Speaker 1: toy twenty five was awesome for a lot of reasons,
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  Speaker 1: and then it got not so great, and then it
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  Speaker 1: kind of ended on, you know, a noteworthy note, not
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  Speaker 1: obviously as far as you want, but a noteworthy note.
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  Speaker 1: So I guess I'm you know this is for you know,
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  Speaker 1: either one of y'all, Like, how do we feel right now?
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  Speaker 1: We can put it, you know, knowing things could change
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  Speaker 1: December tenth, twenty twenty five, twenty twenty six Tigers look
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  Speaker 1: like it's gonna be basically twenty twenty five Tigers. How
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  Speaker 1: does that feel? How does that feel right now? We
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  Speaker 1: can change our minds, but how's it feel right now?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna say like this, Oh all right, Cody,
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  Speaker 5: I'm gonna just say like this, like I'm gonna lean
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  Speaker 5: more on another year of experience. You know, kind of
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  Speaker 5: mentioned that before you know what you have. You know
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  Speaker 5: this team is, you know, what they're capable of and
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  Speaker 5: where they're you know, potentially where they can get in
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  Speaker 5: any given season because they're showing that another year of
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  Speaker 5: experience for these young guys of that playoff atmosphere, that
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  Speaker 5: playoff you know, baseball under your belt. I mean it
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  Speaker 5: goes a long way to be able to play in
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  Speaker 5: those games, be able to play in those pressure tight games,
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  Speaker 5: And the more you get of those, the more comfortable
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  Speaker 5: you start to become playing in those games, and you
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  Speaker 5: kind of want to be in those games. So I'm
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  Speaker 5: gonna I'm gonna lean more on It's another year of experience,
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  Speaker 5: so I think that they'll get better at the young guys.
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  Speaker 5: They'll be able to handle that that pressure playoff baseball
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  Speaker 5: a little bit better this year, this upcoming season.
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  Speaker 4: All right, glad we got that view in there. I'm
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  Speaker 4: leaving winter meetings a little worried about the direction of
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  Speaker 4: the Tigers. It's a good thing that Labor Torres came back,
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  Speaker 4: and I like Jack Flaherty as much as any of
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  Speaker 4: the guys that they would have sought to replace him
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  Speaker 4: in that middle pack of pitchers, and Kyle Finnigan helps
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  Speaker 4: a bullpen that needs help. So none of that is bad.
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  Speaker 4: But again, it does not seem like there's going to
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  Speaker 4: be any sort of like big ticket, meaningful addition to
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  Speaker 4: this roster. The idea of them handing out a long
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  Speaker 4: term contract to Alex Pregman increasingly seems very slim right now.
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  Speaker 4: I would keep an eye on the shortstop position. Talking
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  Speaker 4: to aj Hinch, talking to Scott Harris, talking to some
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  Speaker 4: other people around the league, were a little weird in
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  Speaker 4: the way they were talking about shortstop, just in that
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  Speaker 4: it seems like that position is very much a question.
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  Speaker 4: They would prefer Hovey Bayas to keep roaming around. Aj
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  Speaker 4: Hinch was pretty upfront about that. So is it gonna
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  Speaker 4: be Kevin McGonagall that fills that role or Boba Schetz.
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  Speaker 4: Market's been real quiet again. I don't see the Tigers
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  Speaker 4: going that aggressive. The Hassung Kim thing does have some legs.
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  Speaker 4: He would be a real nice fit in terms of
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  Speaker 4: the idea that the Tigers want to stay flexible, short
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  Speaker 4: term deal some pretty big upside. Will he want to
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  Speaker 4: come to Detroit and play in a place like Kamerica
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  Speaker 4: Park if he's on a pillow deal trying to boost
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  Speaker 4: his offensive numbers? I think that's kind of the question.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, he opted out of his what sixteen
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  Speaker 4: million dollar deal? I think the Braves would like to
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  Speaker 4: keep him too, So I think that the interest in
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  Speaker 4: Kim is real. I think the Tigers are also going
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  Speaker 4: to have some competition and some factors they're going to
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  Speaker 4: have to overcome to get that done, even though it
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  Speaker 4: would be very nice fit. And then I think it's
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  Speaker 4: very hard to look at this team without relating it
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  Speaker 4: to the Trek Schoogle conversation. It's all anyone wanted to
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  Speaker 4: talk about at winter meetings, even though most of it
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  Speaker 4: was just smoke. There's no momentum from what I understand
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  Speaker 4: that Terrek Schouogol is going anywhere. But again, if you
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  Speaker 4: were not gonna put some real pieces around this guy,
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  Speaker 4: should they just trade them? Why aren't they just trading them?
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  Speaker 4: If they feel that good about this young core and
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  Speaker 4: the next dude's on the way, maybe they should just
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  Speaker 4: bite the bullet and build toward that. It doesn't seem
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  Speaker 4: like they're doing that. I'm afraid they're stuck in the
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  Speaker 4: middle ground. But it looks like Ajax has some thoughts.
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  Speaker 4: So I want to hear it.
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  Speaker 6: No, Bro, I mean you speaking right now, Bro, you
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  Speaker 6: preach it.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, because it's at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 5: it's like, I mean, you don't want them to get
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  Speaker 5: up out of here and you get nothing for them, right,
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  Speaker 5: I mean, you know, obviously, who wouldn't want Schoogle to
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  Speaker 5: be in a Detroit Jersey for the remainder of his career.
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  Speaker 6: How likely is that way? Probably not?
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  Speaker 5: You know this, you know, because I think that he
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  Speaker 5: should maximize his value one hundred percent.
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  Speaker 6: Why not when you have that type of talent.
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  Speaker 5: Absolutely, but the likelihood of it happening is very slim.
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  Speaker 5: Like you, like you're mentioning, and you know they have
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  Speaker 5: a very good core group. It might be time to
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  Speaker 5: start looking at that core group and saying, Okay, what
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  Speaker 5: pieces can we put in here, you know, to upgrade
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  Speaker 5: this this core group because we know he's probably gone.
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  Speaker 5: He's probably gone, and and you need to really maximize
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  Speaker 5: his value by getting good talent back in order to
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  Speaker 5: be able to make sure that this this group is
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  Speaker 5: continued growing and they're continued getting better. And that way,
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  Speaker 5: you don't take this big hit when he's gone, because
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  Speaker 5: we've seen that happen plenty in the history of baseball,
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  Speaker 5: and you know, you don't want that history to repeat itself.
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  Speaker 4: Here a couple of little things. It sounds like the
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  Speaker 4: Tigers have still checked in on Pete Fair as recently
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  Speaker 4: as Wednesday, after the signing of Kyle Finnigan. Again, I
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  Speaker 4: don't know if that's gonna get done. I'd be a
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  Speaker 4: little bit surprised if they spend that sort of money
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  Speaker 4: on two relievers, but it sounds like they're not ruling
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  Speaker 4: it out. And all these other acquisitions, including starting pitching,
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  Speaker 4: like we know Scotty Here's are pretty transparent and kind
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  Speaker 4: of be like, yeah, we're not gonna do that much.
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  Speaker 4: But keep in mind, they're gonna let these markets play
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  Speaker 4: out right here. This is more the starting line of
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  Speaker 4: the off season more than the finish line. If the
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  Speaker 4: market tanks on somebody like it did Jack Flaherty last year,
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  Speaker 4: maybe they could still do something. If I don't think
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  Speaker 4: Alex Bregman's market is gonna tank, but if it does,
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  Speaker 4: maybe that changes this conversation. So I think it's important
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  Speaker 4: to know, like things are still gonna play out, but
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  Speaker 4: we definitely know where the team's mind is right now.
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  Speaker 6: You know.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's funny. I was just perusing Instagram. I saw,
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  Speaker 1: you know, one of those Tek Schoogle workout you know
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  Speaker 1: video montages. This guy takes no days off, apparently like
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  Speaker 1: he's he has many things and committed to the craft
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  Speaker 1: is one of them. And then I see like Speciertorkle
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  Speaker 1: sink comment, you know, something inside joke or whatever on
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  Speaker 1: the page, and it.
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  Speaker 2: Got me thinking. I was like, what is it like
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  Speaker 2: for like.
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  Speaker 1: The Torkal Sins of the world, the the Riley Greens
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  Speaker 1: of the world, the Carpenters of the world. Where it's
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  Speaker 1: like your team, your co worker, your teammate is like
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  Speaker 1: in the news like every day, and it's not because
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  Speaker 1: he's the news is not he could potentially.
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  Speaker 2: Be your teammate much longer. It's the opposite, So like,
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  Speaker 2: what would that what would that be Like?
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  Speaker 1: Austin is like, you you know, your best player, a
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  Speaker 1: guy that you know a lot of these guys you
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  Speaker 1: know kind of grew up in the farm together that
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  Speaker 1: like you know, they've been in on the battlefield if
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  Speaker 1: you would, for years, not just in the major leagues,
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  Speaker 1: and like everyone's talking about him on another team, Like,
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  Speaker 1: what would that in the off season?
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  Speaker 2: What would that be?
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  Speaker 6: Like?
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  Speaker 5: Man, I don't I'm trying to think if I've ever
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  Speaker 5: been a part of a situation like this.
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  Speaker 6: I don't.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think I have, but you know, just thinking
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  Speaker 5: about it, I mean, obviously all the guys know that
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  Speaker 5: you know, we're in it's a business, right and you
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  Speaker 5: could be here today, going tomorrow, and that's that's just how.
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  Speaker 6: It is, you know. Unfortunately, unfortunately however you want to
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  Speaker 6: look at it.
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  Speaker 5: But to me, I would I would kind of go
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  Speaker 5: about it as business as usual, you know what I mean? Like,
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  Speaker 5: you know what you know, what kind of talent, what
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  Speaker 5: kind of picture you know, schoople is. You know that
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  Speaker 5: that this has always been something that potentially was gonna
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  Speaker 5: happen at some point, and if it if it didn't
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  Speaker 5: get done already, it's probably not gonna get done. So
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  Speaker 5: you're kind of thinking, like, let me just let me
• 14:40
  Speaker 5: try to get as cool as I can with him,
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  Speaker 5: because I'm probably gonna be facing him at some point
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  Speaker 5: and I don't want him to be hit me with
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  Speaker 5: that thing up there, So you know what I mean, like,
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  Speaker 5: let me let me ay we good though, bro Like,
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  Speaker 5: don't you know, don't.
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  Speaker 6: Be just fastballs, don't don't play around that other stuff.
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  Speaker 5: But nah, I just think that if as a teammate,
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  Speaker 5: you you gotta you have to know it's a business.
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  Speaker 5: You you you understand it one hundred percent, and you
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  Speaker 5: know you.
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  Speaker 6: I think if if I was in that situation and
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  Speaker 6: me and you know, schoobl was cool and we were,
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  Speaker 6: you know.
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  Speaker 5: In texting and things, obviously you know I'd be wishing
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  Speaker 5: him the best. I'd be like, you know, you want
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  Speaker 5: to be a little generous and stay with us or
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  Speaker 5: what do you think? And but you know, again, it's
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  Speaker 5: a business man. These guys understand that, and they understand
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  Speaker 5: what type of picture he is, and they know that,
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  Speaker 5: you know, he's going to do what's best for him
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  Speaker 5: in his future. So, like I said, y'all better get
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  Speaker 5: real cool with him because y'all going to be facing
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  Speaker 5: him here in a minute.
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  Speaker 4: That's really good perspective to Austin. I'm a little bit
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: worried that this is going to get awkward, and I
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  Speaker 4: want to be real clear, I think pretty highlyoteric schoobl
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  Speaker 4: I think he handles himself like the ultimate professional, the
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  Speaker 4: ultimate competitor. He's in a weird situation right now, and
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  Speaker 4: so far he's handled it really well. But if things
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  Speaker 4: continue along this path, he's going to show up to
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: spring training and we're gonna sit there and be like, dude,
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  Speaker 4: do you think they should have put more around you
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  Speaker 4: knowing you are in a contract year and he's gonna
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  Speaker 4: have to find a way to answer that question. My
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: gut tells me in the back of his head that
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: he probably wishes they were doing a little bit more
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: right now. And if they don't do anymore and he
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: isn't traded and he's on the team, I don't think
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: he's ever gonna act like the dude who kind of
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: has one foot out the door, like he's gonna be
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: there to win. He's gonna be there to maximize He's
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: gonna be there to win and maximize his own value.
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: If he pitches, well, the team's gonna win and that
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: increases his market. But our teammate's going to start to
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: look at him like, well, we love Terek, but hey,
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: he's probably gone. And will that impact any of the
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: dynamics in the clubhouse throughout the next year. That's another
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: situation that Tigers have kind of walked themselves into by
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: playing it this way. And though it's all been fine
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: for now, we got a long way to go until
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: next October.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: Well, it's it's funny you say that, because I was
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: just thinking, it's like, man, you know, there's certain checkpoints
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: that this iteration of the franchise has hit, like throughout
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: the past couple of years, and this is this is
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: a first. We haven't gotten that many firsts, you know.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: It's just like dealing with something of this magnitude. That's
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: this national of the story. So so yeah, how they
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: handle it will definitely be like a story. It's gonna
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: be a storyline until it's not. That's really the best
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: way to put it. That brings us to our yet
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: to be sponsored but contractually obligated Trek Schouoble update. This
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: comes from our friend David Pingalore kt LA and Los
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Angeles update.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: He tweeted this last night. I'm hearing this.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: The school bol deal is essentially in place. The pieces
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: are agreed to, the framework is done. What's holding up
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: now is the long term extension and ownership approval in Detroit.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: The Tigers won't green light it without the owner's sign off,
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: and the Dodgers won't ship out that kind of hall
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: without a long term commitment from Schooble. That's the final hurdle.
• 17:57
  Speaker 6: Now.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: I want to point.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: Out that he he ended this tweet with the quotation mark,
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: but there is not a quotation mark anywhere else in
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: this tweet, so I'm not sure what is supposed to
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: be sourced, or what's he quoting or whatever, but that
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: is you're not sponsored, but contractually obligated.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: Ark Schoogle update.
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: I didn't say with a pretty high degree of confidence.
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: This dude's making stuff up. I was told sat down
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: at the attempted to sit down at the manager's breakfast
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: at Dave Roberts table, and was promptly escorted out of
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: the room. I just ask everyone have a little better
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: comprehension skills. If you're hearing something like that and it's
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: from some you know, somewhat random TV guy, and you're
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: not hearing that from the prominent national reporters or any
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: local beat reporters, it's probably not true. If Terrek Schoogle
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: ends up getting traded at the Dodgers in January, it's
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: not because of the stuff this dude's saying. Those negotiations
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: might well have started or come unfold. I'm not saying
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: they have. I'm saying we'll see, right, But don't believe.
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: That Cody telling him start playing with you, bro.
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: If if they didn't hear from you, it ain't real.
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: And I think a lot of other people would know
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: about it.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree completely.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Uh, real quick, Cody, we haven't we haven't gotten a
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: chance to kind of zero in on this, uh this
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: much because we've just been talking about Scott Harris and
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: this and that. But like AJ Hitch is also like out,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: you know, going on foul territory and will be network.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: He's talking to you guys like he is obviously kind
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: of the voice in the face of the franchise, obviously
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: a daily basis during the season, but he's he's doing
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: that part here at winter meetings.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: How is AJ Hitch? We haven't really heard from AJ
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Hench until now? How is AJ?
• 19:48
  Speaker 6: What's what?
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: What's up with AJ? How's he doing?
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: They're just doing good man. They should, you know, they
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: should probably put him in front of the microphone a
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: little more like he's in front of the microphone a lot,
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: and maybe more in the office. And because he messages
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: this stuff well and eloquently and just makes it more
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: palatable to everyone when he's up there talking about Trek Scoogle.
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: You guys can go look at at some of the
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: answers he gave this week. He said it in a
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: way where I just think you feel a little bit
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: better about the situation than when Scott Harris addresses the situation.
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: And they have different jobs, so that's part of the deal.
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: But aj is a cool customer. He was charming as
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: always at winter meetings. Like I often do, I wonder
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: what's really going on in his head though, because I'm
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: pretty sure he would love to win a World Series
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: as soon as possible, and I'm sure he's optimistic about
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: the prospects they are on the way and the health
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: of the organization. To be clear, Talker's have some good
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: things going for him, and Scott Harris, for as much
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: heat as he gets, has done some very nice things
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: in three plus years running this work. But they are
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: coming to crunch time, right. We've talked about the hardest
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: thing to do, going from good to great. Aj h
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: just been there. He knows what it takes. Sometimes I
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: do wonder what's really going on in his head, but
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: he's a pretty good front facing guy for the organization
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: and he was nothing short of that this week.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: That business as usual from AJ. Little bookkeeping notes.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: The Tigers that are going to have a little bit
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: of change in their coaching infrastructure, Gave Rebos is going
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: he was the director of pitching Development. Is that we're
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: a correct title, Cody, He is going to be the
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: assistant pitching coach with the Colorado Rockies, and coincidentally, maybe
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: not so coincidentally, r J. Pettitt gets picked by the
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: Rockies in the Rule five draft. He was kind of
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: like a popular guy. It seems like once he wasn't
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: protected that he might get taken in the Rule five
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: So wish RJ nothing the best in Colorado and in
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Rebo's as well in his next phase.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: Of his professional career. So a little book peting out there.
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: I don't think we should overreact to the loss of
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: a minor league pitcher, but there were multiple teams. I
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: can tell you for a fact that we're ready to
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: take r J. Pattitt. The Rockies took him with the
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: first pick in the Rule five draft. For the Tigers
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: to protect him, that would have meant taken someone else
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: off their roster, like maybe a Chase Lee or something.
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: So they clearly had a hard decision to make there
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: they left Petit off. A lot of teams liked him.
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: Though he's six', eight he's got real, extension misses some
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: bats with a, slider so we'll see how that one plays.
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: Out he's going to pitch an. Elevation maybe he'll have
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: like an Ad ra and get returned back to The
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: tigers and everyone will be. Happy And gabribas he always
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: struck me as a pretty sharp pitching coach, MAN i liked.
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: Him but The tigers do have a good pitching infrastructure
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: despite not a great year for them on the, farm
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: a lot of injuries with their. PITCHERS i think it's
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: hard to, know like how much does a coach really
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: have to do with. That If rebus wasn't well thought,
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: of he wouldn't have got this. Job and it sounds
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: like The tigers for now likely are going to fill this,
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: internally kind of bump up some other pitching. Coaches that's,
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: unofficial but it didn't seem like they were too torn
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: up about the, loss mainly because they think they have
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: some other dudes in the.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: House all, Right, well we will see what, happens all.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Right AS i said, earlier it Is december, tenth On december,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: eighth two thousand and, nine so you, know not a
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: little bit off the anniversary without too. Far Austin jackson
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: was a member of The New York yankees organization and
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: then was traded to The. Tigers now it's always fun
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: to go Revisit. Trace i'm gonna read off this three
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: team deal because everybody, knows but it's just funny to
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: read it off. Again Austin jackson traded as part of
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: a three team trade by The New York yankees With
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Phil coke to The Detroit. Tigers The Detroit tigers Sent
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Edwin jackson to The Arizona. Diamondbacks read. This The Detroit
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: tigers Sent Curtis granderson to The New York, Yankees The
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: Arizona diamondbacks Sent Max scherzer And Daniel schlareth to The Detroit,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: tigers and The New York yankees Sent Ian kennedy to
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: The Arizona.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: Diamondbacks i'm just gonna say those names.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Again Austin, Jackson Phil, Coke Edwin, Jackson Max, Schurzer daniel,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Schlaref Curtis, Granderson Ian.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: Kennedy that's a, trade. Man that is a winner.
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: Meeting, Right there's a baseball.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Trade so think us Back, Austin but you, know do
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: you remember that? Day do you remember like the, call
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: do you remember like what was going through your? Head
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: like you had not you, know you had not become
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: a major leaguer, yet so like there's there's a lot
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: of stuff going on the Name Curtis granderson gets thrown in.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: There and Then I'll i'll say this my own personal.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: ANECDOTE i remember reading About Austin jackson in that previous trade,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: deadline being, like The yankees will not Trade Austin.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: Jackson they value him too.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Much and and then my dad that, summer that previous
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: summer in two thousand and, nine had gone back To
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: detroit for his fortieth high school reunion and he got
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: me A Curtis granderson jersey.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: SHIRT i was so. EXCITED i Love Curtis. Granderson and a.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: Couple of months later he was on The yankees And
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: austin jack and the Untradeable Austin jackson is on The.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Tigers and Now i'm doing a podcast With Austin. Jackson
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: so you know, what life is, good, Man life is.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: Good So's i'm, sorry that's just my own first land
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: up with. It But, austin take us through your your
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: experience getting traded to The tigers during winter.
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: Meetings, hey you know when when they when when somebody
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: hypes them up and, say, hey this is not, available
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: it make you want it that much?
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: More, right they did. It they knew.
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: Exactly what they were doing and they they got they
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: caught somebody.
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: Slipping but, NO i remember exactly WHERE i was.
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: AT i was probably living above my means in Downtown
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: dallas and a high rise and you, know thinking of
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: living the. Life not a big leader yet, uh probably
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: living like, one LIKE i shouldn't have. Been BUT i
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: REMEMBER i was sitting in my high, rise you, know
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: all comfortable thinking all.
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: This the next step for me is centerfield for The.
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: Yankees here it.
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: Goes and got a call from my agent AND i
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: remember him, saying, hey you are about to be.
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: Traded And i'm, like what are you talking?
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: About like the worst news to me, ever right Because
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: i'm thinking in my, Head i'm.
• 26:06
  Speaker 6: Gonna be the future centerfielder for The. Yankees you, know
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: this would be.
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: Awesome this is, why you, know this is WHY i quit,
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: basketball BECAUSE i wanted, to you, know wanted to pursue.
• 26:15
  Speaker 6: This and you, know SO i WAS i. WAS i was.
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: MAD i wasn't, MAD i don't think that would be
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: the right, word BUT i was just disappointed because you,
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: know those things THAT i was telling myself and telling everybody,
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: else they weren't gonna come.
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: True but WHAT i didn't realize.
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: Is you, know when you're you're playing, baseball when you get,
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: drafted the main goal is just to get to the big, leagues,
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: Right and once that was explained to me in that,
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: manner it took all, that you, know all those doubts
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: away and all that you, know disappointment of not being A,
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: yankee a centerfielder for The. Yankees it took all that,
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: away because that's the goal when when you start, off
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: when you get, drafted is to be in the big.
• 26:54
  Speaker 6: League.
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: Someday every kid watches the big you, know big league
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: In Major League baseball and they, SAY i want to
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: be that one.
• 27:01
  Speaker 6: Day and SO i had to take that into.
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: PERSPECTIVE i had to kind of go back to the
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: kid me and remember, That, hey my goal THAT i
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: set out to WHEN, i you, know got drafted was, saying,
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: HEY i want to be in the big.
• 27:12
  Speaker 6: Leagues wasn't with the jersey or the team THAT i,
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: wanted but this was that was the.
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: Opportunity so WHAT i was starting to realize is the
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: opportunity to play in the big leagues to show THAT
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: i was, capable, uh you, know of playing at that.
• 27:25
  Speaker 6: Level and that's WHAT i wanted to.
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: SHOW i wanted to you, know just show people, like,
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: hey one team didn't want, me But i'm gonna come
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: over here And i'm gonna do you know WHATEVER i
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: can contribute to wins over. Here and it was just
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: it was a it was an, awesome uh scary, moment
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: you know for me walking in that. CLUBHOUSE i, KNOW
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: i told you, guys But leland he's intimidating. Man like you,
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: know he's a little little, guy, right you think you
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: a little, guy but he got a lot of fire in,
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: him you. Know and so walking in that that, clubhouse,
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: man AND i felt LIKE i was like a like.
• 27:58
  Speaker 6: A little kid amongst.
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: Men you, Know i'm looking At Miguel cabrera and, uh Justin,
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: Verlander i'm looking at all these guys THAT i, watched.
• 28:05
  Speaker 6: And i'm, like, dude these these are these are grown.
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: Men you.
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: Know HERE i am one hundred and eighty five, pounds soaking,
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: Wet i'm walking in here with some grown. Men so
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: but it was it was it was that that moment
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: again WHERE i went into To leland's uh Coach leland's
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: office and sat down with him and him telling me
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: that you, know we you, know we Had Curtis grandison
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: we Want Austin. Jackson we want you to come, out
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: and we want you to Be Austin. Jackson And i'm telling, you,
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: man those are the words that that really kind of
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: changed everything for, me really made me feel that, home you.
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: Know and THEN i you, know obviously got settled in
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: in the clubhouse being a class clown and and just
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: to you, know finding my role with with with with the, boys,
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: Man and it was just.
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: A it's a great.
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: Opportunity BUT i tell people a lot that a lot
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: of young kids, ARE i, said teenagers that are trying
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: to pursue that dream of being a big, Leaguer, like
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: don't get caught up in all the you, know the
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: analytics and all that. Things like you you want to
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: be a professional, ballplayer get there by any means. Necessary
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: it doesn't matter what, team it doesn't matter about get
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: there because you, know somebody there's there's a there's a
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: lot of, positions but there's a lot of people coming
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: for those, positions Right, like you, know you think that
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: you're gonna play for the team to draft, you but you,
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: know really there's there's other teams out there that could
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: use your. Services so ONCE i took that into. Perspective you,
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: KNOW i settled down and and and you KNOW i
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: had a great time In, detroit, man so it was
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: it was the best thing for.
• 29:41
  Speaker 6: Me it's a blessing in. Disguise so.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: And funny how things work, out probably one of the
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: more consequential trades and uh in franchise. History and you
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: talk ABOUT i mean, Again suzer was in that, deal
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: you know WHAT i? Mean like that THE i don't
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: know if you ever heard of. Them pretty, good pretty
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: good picture. There so funny how things work, out and,
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: uh looks like we'll be spared that excitement during this
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Year's winter.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: Meetings but that's that's.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Okay we'll be here to react to every move as
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: it comes and and analyze the anyways who comes and
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: who chooses not to come To. Detroit so anything else
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: fellas before we get out of.
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: Here there's a lot MORE i could wrap up From winter.
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: Meetings do we hit on? Everything are we forgetting anything?
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: HERE i MEAN i think we we we cover all
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: the big. Stuff you're the you're the you're the man
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: on the street now if you if you if you.
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: Think we got the newsy, stuff you, KNOW i think
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: it's just The internet's pretty mad at The tigers right,
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: now which is par for the, course AND i think
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: it's trying to sort out how legit is. This AS i,
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: Said i'm a little concerned about the direction they seem
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: to be.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: Choosing.
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: Now is it fair to, say, oh they're they're scared
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: or they're risk, Averse, LIKE i think it depends on
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: how that's what they're gonna get. CALLED i believe the
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: way the team team officials see it is like that's
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: how much they believe in the. Future they believe in
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: it so much that they might just be willing to
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: pass up a chance to improve your team and improve
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: Your World series odds in twenty twenty. Six on the,
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: outside maybe that makes them look like they're. Scared to,
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: me it makes them look like they're they're really locked
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: into that, belief which could be good or could be
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: really bad that could prove to be a catastrophic. Decision
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: or maybe they're smart and the rest of us are.
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: Dumb so that's HOW i feel about, It Like i'm
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: just trying to shift the lens a little bit away
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: from anger and more, like, well here's kind of what they're.
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: Thinking they don't necessarily want to sign some guy to
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: a five year deal because they Want Max anderson to
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: be playing that position in two. Years is that?
• 31:48
  Speaker 6: Right is that?
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: Wrong it's real easy to get churning constant prospects and
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: this guy and this, guy and things don't always go
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: according to. Plant so that's what really gives me, hesitation
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: and that's what worries. Me it's not saying they need
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: to go spend a trillion dollars this, offseason but they
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: have a pretty good team and we said the scott
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: hers has done a lot of. Good can you guarantee
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: they're going to have a better chance to cash in
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: than the one that's sharing them right in the? Face
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: it's a it's a hard. Question it's an important one
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  Speaker 4: to think.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: About oh, look, man like everything else in our, society
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: you have extremes here and then you have extremes, here
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: and then the truth is probably or the most reasonable
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: thing to think is probably a little bit in the,
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  Speaker 1: middle BECAUSE i think there's a lot of the aspect
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: of the way The tigers have approached things for the
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: past couple of years is, justifiable not, sexy but. Justifiable
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: and you, know could could, be like you, said could
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: prove to be geniuses could prove to be looking for
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: a new job in two.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: Years that's the. Game that's the. Game you never.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Know the, guys the guys on the field will determine.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: That so you know what we shall, see we shall,
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  Speaker 1: see all?
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  Speaker 4: Right is that a good way to look at, it This.
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  Speaker 4: AUSTIN i, mean you've looked at this stuff for a long.
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: Time, well well that's WHAT i was, thinking BECAUSE i,
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: mean if you if, you if you look at it
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  Speaker 5: like how you were, saying, like you, know they're looking
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: at this situation as like they're very confident what they
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: have as well they should. Be BUT I i still
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: kind of question where where where are they? Lacking you,
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: know what really would give them the best?
• 33:28
  Speaker 6: Opportunity is it going out and getting? Somebody is some?
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: Dude is there somebody out there right now that they
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: could honestly, say or that we could honestly say that
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: if they go get this, person if they go get this,
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: player they're they're they're.
• 33:44
  Speaker 6: Automatically going to be.
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: THERE i, MEAN i just don't know if they if
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: there's somebody out there like, that and then obviously you
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: obviously know what you would have to give up probably
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: to get those type of. Players so you, know a
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: part of me agrees with being confident with the group you,
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: have but you, know the selfish part of me also
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: wants to see them add some some somebody. Else you,
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: KNOW i really do want to see them open up
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: that check book and add somebody, else because THEN i
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: could be, like all, right well that didn't. Work sorry about.
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: That y'all just signed them for five. Years that's on.
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: Me my.
• 34:18
  Speaker 6: Bad you, know you gotta eat that five.
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  Speaker 5: Years BUT i want to see it, though you, know
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: because just to be, like, ah my, bad that didn't,
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  Speaker 5: work you, know but because it's just you, know you
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: you we KEEP i feel like doing the same thing
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  Speaker 5: every every, year you, know we get our hopes up
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: and we get their hopes, high you, know, like, man
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: here this is the. Year and another thing is health, too,
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: Right like we we need some guys to stay healthy
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: deeper in the season approaching them, playoffs you, know like
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: let's let's see what What meadows looks like when he's fully,
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: healthy you, know for a full, Year like.
• 34:53
  Speaker 6: That's gonna change that.
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: LINEUP i, THINK i THINK i believe THAT i feel
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: my man if he's healthy out there and his legs are,
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: GOOD i think. That you, know his his play changes that,
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: Lineup he makes that lineup. Deeper so you know those
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: are things like you, Know, olsen those guys being, healthy
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: mine is being. Healthy what does it look? Like you,
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: know if those guys are healthy come you, know? Playoffs
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: are we looking at a completely Different tigers? Team but
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: those you, know those that's wishful. Thinking you, know every,
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: everybody every team deals with with injuries throughout the. Year
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: BUT i, personally selfishly would like to see them add
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: a just a big.
• 35:32
  Speaker 6: Splash just to just to just to prove me.
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: Wrong prove me, wrong you, know bring the guy in,
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: there it don't work, out and be, like, okay never
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: do it. Again trust your. Prospects then after. That but
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: for right, now, man these past two, years you, know
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: it's just like we get there and it's, like, ah.
• 35:49
  Speaker 6: What is it that's gonna take us to the next.
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: LEVEL i want to see a big name in, here
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: AND i want to see a big. BAT i want
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: to see another bad at. It THAT'S i, MEAN i
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: just being. Selfish you know what they.
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: Need the, Most, yeah either both.
• 36:04
  Speaker 6: This year and.
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: Beyond but they have a solid lineup and they have
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: some young. Hitters we're going to get. Better but we
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: all watched the. Playoffs wouldn't it be nice to have
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: one more, dude a veteran right handed hitter who controls
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: the zone and who can hit the. BALL i think
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: that's what they lack more than.
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: Anything, YEP i agree with you CAUSE i think you right,
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: there BECAUSE i, mean we to be able to go
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: deep into the playoffs with especially what we saw this
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: past season in The World. Series you gotta be able to.
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: Hit you gotta be able to hit and not don't
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: get me, wrong you gotta be able to pitch To
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: pitching is very. Important that's WHY i was. Saying that's
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: why you were, saying, LIKE i think they need another guy,
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: too and not to rely On schooble as.
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: Much you know what he's gonna. Do he's a.
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: Workhorse you need another guy in, there, one one other
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: solid dude in there and another bat because that is going.
• 36:54
  Speaker 6: To take you deep playing against these these big.
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: Names you, know The, dodgers man that that that rock
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: there is just. Deep so how are you going to
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: compete with? Them with the group that's, young kind of.
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: Inexperienced it doesn't have that playoff you, know those playoff
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: reps like. That The, dodgers we know they're gonna be.
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: There do we have enough right now currently to compete with?
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: Them because that's How i'm looking at. It how are
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: we competing with The? Dodgers that's How i'm looking at.
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: It what what can we do to, if, if and
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: when that time? Comes do we have the roster to
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: compete with that?
• 37:28
  Speaker 6: Team right?
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: There and if you can Say i'm confident with this,
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: group all, Right i'm. Good you, Know i'm good with,
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: It BUT i still think you need to add. Somebody
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: so that's my.
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: Take that's all. Sudden.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: Yep sometimes you just need some, dudes, Man sometimes you
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: need some. Dudes Uh and by the, way a guy
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: who took The dodgers to the brink available in free,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: agency maybe that's the.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: Key Uh So i'll just leave it at, that all.
• 37:54
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