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Episode 129: Laughing our way through "The Gungan General" - Part 2 of the Hilarious Mess that follows "Dooku Captured" · Most Things Kenobi - A Star Wars Podcast

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  Hello there, it's time for most things Kenobi.
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  Shouldn't it be all things Kenobi?
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  Hi everyone, Welcome to another episode of Most Things Kenobi, a
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  podcast about Obi Wan Kenobi and all things Star Wars.
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  I'm your host, Leanne, and I'm your host, Lauren.
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  And this week is Part 2. It's the follow up episode to
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  Doo who captured, which we did last week.
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  This is even more ridiculous and it's titled The Gunk in General.
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  And this is only a two episode arc as opposed to the usual 3,
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  but that's OK because that's all this one needs.
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  Yeah. Seriously.
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  God, we couldn't handle another episode.
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  I mean, how many more situations can they be in that are?
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  Embarrassing for all of them. Seriously.
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  Oh my Lord. I love I love this episode.
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  You know it's bad when it has the word Gungan in the title,
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  because Jar Jar adds a whole other they Not only are these
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  two episodes absurd in a good way, they layer it up by adding
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  Jar Jar to it. Which I know.
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  No good can come from the man. Can't even.
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  He can't even get in a fucking seat without help.
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  He's he's really struggling I feel.
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  Bad for his character because every person can do something
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  right? And I know Jar Jar's like that,
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  that the unlikely hero, he's the one that falls into good luck
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  and good happenstance, right? But.
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  He's a capable individual. I believe he is.
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  Somehow, whatever he does ends up working out, except for
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  Senator Karis. Well, not a kid show.
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  They literally sacrifice an entire senator to like see this
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  through in this episode. Like it's, so it's just.
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  It's so sad. It's so useless.
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  It's so like. I have one out for Senator Karis
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  because we hardly knew Yi. Literally.
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  We hardly knew Yi. Seriously.
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  What we know is that he's done a ransom run before and ended up
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  in a dungeon for a month, apparently with no explanation.
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  Can I ask why the Republic has Spice just chilling, ready to be
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  ransomed off? I know well, I assume the spice
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  minds of Kessel are part of the Republic before they become part
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  of the Empire. Well, I just find it very
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  convenient. They got a bunch of drugs laying
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  around. Well, yeah, there's a dark side
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  to everything, right? It's just.
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  I mean, it does come in handy until Senator Karis dies.
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  I know, I love that. That I love that they have spice
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  in Star Wars. Like it.
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  Like it's Coke or something. Yeah, totally.
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  Totally. And Hondo's all about it.
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  Like him and his dudes, they literally turn on each other
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  because they want it so bad. I know they are willing to kill
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  for that spice. Yeah, well.
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  Speaking of which, this whole episode starts off with a giant
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  question mark that I figured we would address, which is.
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  At the end of Dooku captured that we covered last week that
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  literally the final scene is Anakin and Obi Wan switching
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  their drinks with the other pirates to ensure that they're
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  not drugged. Yes, and we see confirmation of
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  them not being drugged because the other two pass out and
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  they've remained as right. Had to go.
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  Lucky as ever, right? And then this episode starts and
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  they are in a cell. Somehow they were drugged.
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  Yeah, tied together. And there's even the line where
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  Anakin says I only took a sip and Obi Wan says we were
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  drugged, obviously, but they don't remember it, Yeah, and
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  they were trying to take precaution for it.
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  And everyone I know has a question about this, like what?
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  What the hell happened there? It's answered.
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  It's answered on the Wikipedia. It says after Obi Wan and Anakin
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  wake up after being drugged. Everyone wants to know why.
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  It turns out the show originally had web comics posted to the
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  official Star Wars website, which tied into the various
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  episodes. And guess who ended up drugging
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  them And everyone else Pills, Muk Muk, the Kowakian Monkey
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  Lizard of Hondo. He ended up gassing the entire
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  room and that's how they ended up in a cell with Dooku.
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  It was worth knocking everybody out just to catch 2 Jedi I.
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  Just love. The mischievous like, first of
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  all, obviously there's a gas line somewhere.
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  Or he just threw a gas bomb into the room.
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  Who knows? Or.
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  He just threw one in. But it's the fucking monkey
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  that's doing it. The little Rascal.
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  I love that so much. Oh, pilf.
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  Is that The one is pilf muck, muck.
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  The one played by Matt Lancer. Oh, this one is PILF is voiced
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  by D Bradley Baker. OK, so it's the other one.
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  What? Whatever that one was.
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  His brother, his. Brother Pick pick, moo moo,
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  muck, muck, and pilf muck. I can't.
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  So Pilf has a brother named Pick.
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  Not sure if that's Matlanter. It is OK.
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  That is that's Matlanter. OK, he's.
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  The yellowish one. He's cute.
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  Oh yeah, with the blue, yellow. And yes, yeah.
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  And PILF is reddish, greenish looking.
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  Yes, yes, very ordinary looking. I.
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  Honestly, I really want all of them.
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  I already have salacious, obviously, but we need PILF and
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  pick to kind of flank. Salacious in the middle.
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  It would be a great like 3 tiered Coakian system.
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  I don't even know what I'm talking about, and I love it.
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  Well, at least now we understand what the hell happened.
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  Because for years, I mean, since what, 2008, we've all been
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  wondering because a lot of people didn't watch the show.
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  Like, I didn't see it when it first came out.
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  I watched it on Netflix years later.
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  So I was always like, what the hell happened there, right?
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  Well, I I just love that Obi Wan's like, well, we were
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  drugged. Obviously.
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  Obviously. How obvious with with gas?
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  Yeah, yeah, you were. Yeah.
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  And anyway, that starts the whole litany of nonsense between
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  those three. So here we have a Sith Lord
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  attached to a Jedi Master extraordinaire.
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  Attached to his annoying adolescent post Adolescent.
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  What is it, like 20 at this point?
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  Yeah, he's the one. It's ridiculous.
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  Dooku cannot stand it. He's in agony this entire
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  episode. Dooku shines in this episode
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  because his voice is so irritated, like it's it's
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  irritable anyway because it's low and it's got like that air
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  of superiority we know about Dooku, but the fact that he's
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  so? Walking annoyed at the other
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  two. Insolence that he's tied to, you
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  know, and they almost escape. They do pull together and they
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  almost escape a few times. A few times.
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  But successful? Never.
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  No, no, until Duke, who's on his own.
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  Then he just murders his way out and that's fine, but.
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  Well, that's that's what separates him from rest.
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  Even Anakin can barely keep it together.
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  He's so annoyed. He's they're all on different
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  levels of like, why are we here and why am I stuck to him?
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  Except they're all pointing at each other.
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  Yeah, it's like that. That Spider Man meme, Yes.
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  So they're all in. It's him.
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  You. No.
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  You. You.
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  Well, I had forgotten. I actually wrote a blog post
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  about the cinematography of this episode like a long, long time
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  ago. And it's one of the main things
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  that I've referenced is how Obi Wan is always in the middle.
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  It makes sense. He's physically in the middle,
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  but he's also always the one in the middle between Anakin and
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  Dooku. Like he's always positioned
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  there and he's the one least bothered.
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  So he's kind of, he does get to a point where he's really
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  irritated, but for the most part, he's able to manage Anakin
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  and he's able to, like deal with Dooku.
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  So he's quite literally in the center.
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  He's more balanced. He's the least emotional of all
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  of them. He is.
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  He does handle it quite well. He handles it with kind of like,
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  well, if you can't beat him, join him kind of attitude.
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  Yeah, he's kind of laughing through it a bit.
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  I mean, he starts to get more serious by the end after they
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  try to pole vault as a family. That whole thing is so
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  ridiculous. It almost works.
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  It almost works. But then Obi Wan after that,
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  then he's like, we're going to look like fools.
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  He's he's like, we need to get our shit together.
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  Yeah, they're supposed to be the most powerful three that there
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  is, and they're all tied to each other and they can't make it
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  work. I love it.
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  It's like if if Star Wars had a Big Brother house, you know, and
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  they were all forced to be in the same room together and then
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  they had like their monologues. Oh my God, I'm getting a whole
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  idea now. I kind of would.
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  That would be fun to write. Somebody should do it.
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  We need we need to laugh. In this day and age.
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  That would be great. Oh man.
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  But then there's also like some great lighting to like really
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  jump around it. Like at the end, once they do
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  the pole vaulting thing and Obi Wan saves Juku back in the cell,
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  there's this a shot where Anakin says I think it's time to lose
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  the dead weight. And Dooku is in the center of
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  the shot and his face is split with light and dark.
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  And Anakin, when he says that, he turns into the shadow and
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  then Obi Wan turns into the light and says like Anakin, like
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  we can't do that. Yeah, it's just very deliberate
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  coding there. I I think it's great that anyone
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  would say that in front of Dooku, like no.
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  He throws so many threats around too dooku, you know?
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  Oh man, there's some classic ones in this episode.
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  I mean, we've already discussed in the previous episodes the one
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  comment about he would kill them both now, except that he'd have
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  to drag their bodies. It's still one of my favorite
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  lines in all Clone Wars. It's so well delivered that it's
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  actually believable and laughable at the same time.
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  Like you can sense the. How he detests being in the same
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  area as them. Yeah, he's really doing his
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  best, but you can tell he really hates this whole.
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  Experience. He wants out.
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  Yeah, Obi Wan can't laugh about it.
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  I think Anakin is legitimately irritated but trying to, like,
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  enjoy making fun of Dooku. But Dooku really hates it.
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  You know what's wild to think about?
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  We have we have episodes like this where we have these three
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  right. And then we know what happens in
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  Revenge of the Sith, and it's like, can't you laugh?
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  About what? Can't we look back at the good
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  times before I behead you? Yeah, when you're standing there
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  with two lightsabers crossed in front of his head and a look of
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  just pure fear and Duke, whose eyes can't get just look back
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  and think about the old times. We once laughed together, We
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  once. You know, we once joked around
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  together. Doesn't it mean anything?
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  I don't know. I'm waxing poetic about Dooku
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  and Anakin, who literally hate each other.
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  I think that's why even though this is a very light, funny
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  episode, Anakin is cinematically coded, very dark the entire time
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  and his back is often to the audience.
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  And he's on the left side of the frame almost all the time, which
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  indicates like a less balanced character.
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  And it's because we have to believe it when he turns into
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  Darth Vader. And all of that is subconscious
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  communication to the audience. So you might not be like
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  registering it consciously, but it makes it easier to understand
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  why he starts to slip later because the whole show they code
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  him this way is being a little bit off kilter and always kind
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  of going against the grain. And that's why I love this show.
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  Yeah, totally. And it becomes more evident
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  going for further into the later season, he he shows it more.
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  Obviously. It's kind of an undertone in the
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  first season, but it gets you know when he's like literally
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  forced choking people and stabbing people or threatening
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  to stab or cut or behead or what Vader theme makes its way in
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  more often? And yeah, I mean, in season one
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  he's still drawing stick figures of people hugging I.
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  Think that's? I love that.
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  I love that. I know that was one of my
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  favorite moments for Anakin ever.
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  Is it bad that I kind of get why Anakin feels the way he does?
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  They're literally chained to the guy that they're trying to
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  destroy, unbeknownst. Who's pulling the strings of the
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  whole thing behind the scenes, but sure.
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  You know, they're this close, right?
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  And they've been embarrassed by a bunch of pirates who caught
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  him, and they couldn't. That's already been mentioned.
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  And then they're in a cell with him.
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  And I kind of get Anakin's anger.
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  Like I wouldn't. I would be a little bit annoyed
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  at. I'm trying to picture this from
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  Anakin's personality, not my own.
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  I'm not annoyed by Obi Wan ever. But if I was Anakin, I would be
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  annoyed at his light heartedness, because this is the
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  guy that they're trying to stop. And this is as close as they've
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  ever been. And they can't.
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  They still have to work together to get out together.
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  Yeah. And it's like, why can't we just
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  kill him? He's right here.
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  Like, I get it. I don't agree with it, but I get
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  it right, right like. Finish the mission he's so on.
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  Character than when they're pole vaulting and Obi Wan saves Dooku
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  and Anakin says drop Dooku. Yeah, I get it.
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  It's so interesting though, because that's we get why Anakin
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  is that way. And like, can we discuss Obi Wan
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  saving Yuku? This is.
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  This is the guy who was entangled with your old master
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  who died. And like there's drama.
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  There's all kinds of drama there.
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  There's background, There's history.
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  Not good, not good. But we don't question.
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  Obi Wan, when he does it either, 'cause that's totally in
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  character with who he is. He's just like he he doesn't
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  like to waste life needlessly. He's not afraid to take life.
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  We've seen that plenty of times. Not so much in Clone Wars, but
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  definitely in Ewan McGregor's version of Obi Wan and Alec
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  Guinness's. For that matter, no problem
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  cutting arms off, No. Problem.
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  But I don't think that he would want to look himself in the
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  mirror after just having let Dooku fall to his death.
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  I don't think he could have lived with himself that way.
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  And it's instinct. You're not thinking in a moment
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  like that, you're just reacting. Yeah, Anakin sees a solution to
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  a problem, but Obi Wan knows the ramifications.
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  If they were to just drop them, yeah, yes, it's an easy out.
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  But he'd then have to explain to the council there is no trial
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  which would be questioned. There'd be a lot of paperwork.
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  I don't think he's thinking about this in this moment, but
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  he knows, like, this is not the right way to go about it.
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  There needs to be a trial. There needs to be.
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  He has to stand, you know, and take take some kind of
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  responsibility for the IT was never going to happen anyway
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  because, you know, fucking Sidious, of course.
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  But I get. I get it.
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  But even like the moral question too, of if you allow yourself to
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  do something like that, isn't that one step closer to the dark
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  side? Of course we know Obi Wan.
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  If it didn't turn with some of the other worst shit and it's
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  like, it's definitely not gonna take a step towards the dark
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  side just for Dooku over a bunch of pirates.
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  No, no. The whole situation is so
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  ridiculous. And meanwhile all of this is
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  going on internally and externally.
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  Fucking Hondo's own people are turning against him.
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  A senator dies when they shoot a ship down, yeah.
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  Jar Jar is the gung in general then.
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  How safely saves everybody, or at least frees them enough that
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  Dooku can peace out, get the hell out of there and go back to
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  his his castle and take a long bubble bath and think about
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  things. He had an extra long drink of
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  wine that night. Yeah, son of a bitch.
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  He appeased himself by murdering 3 people on the way out, so it's
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  OK. What the character that kind of
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  backstabs Hondo for the spice? Doesn't Dooku end up killing him
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  anyway? Isn't he one of the people?
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  Yes, He's the one that dooku, like, slowly chokes to death and
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  makes that guy shoot the other one working with him.
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  So he's, yeah. That's right.
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  Yeah, it's He makes another person murder someone while he's
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  murdering them. Like, it's just so crazy.
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  I see. And the other guy he literally
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  kills with his bare hands. He doesn't even use the foresaw,
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  the first guy. This is how annoyed Dooku is
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  being anywhere near Obi Wan and Anakin for an extended period of
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  time. It had to come out somehow,
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  exactly. Not a kid show.
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  Oh my God, exactly. Yes.
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  There's so many moments, even the at the beginning when
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  Senator Karis dies, they show his like dead arm sticking up.
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  That would have been enough. But no.
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  Then they cut to his full dead body, crumpled in the corner.
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  I was like, I didn't need to see that.
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  That's heartbreaking. Yeah, it's it that's.
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  Yeah. But you probably know this, this
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  is AI love, this factoid that Senator Karis's staff, the head
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  of his staff is the staff of RAW from Indiana Jones.
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  Oh, they said they didn't put the little gem in there, but
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  they were like, we did everything else.
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  And it was very much on purpose. And I love that.
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  I just adore that. And I saw a little tiny
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  interview with Dave Filoni about it, and he was saying that
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  they're not making a comment that somehow our universe is
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  tied to the Star Wars universe. But he's like, there is
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  hieroglyphics in Indiana Jones of R2D2 and 3PO.
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  And he's like, so, you know, you could argue that there'd be a
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  connection, but I'm not going to do that.
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  So we honestly, I would love to do an episode where we do all
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  the Indiana Jones Star Wars crossover stuff, because I think
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  there's so many cool things. Yes, we should do that.
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  That's a that's a good. That would be a good one.
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  There's a lot. My God there.
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  Are it's so cool. It's a nice touch.
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  It is, and they can. Of course, they're all
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  Lucasfilm, so they're allowed to do it.
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  And I think there might even be some ET references too.
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  Then we need to stay away. I we can't.
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  We can't do no. I I won't do ET with you.
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  I know. I can't.
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  But for well, we could do Indiana Jones for sure.
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  For anyone who doesn't know, this is the only time I'm
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  mentioning it. I am deathly afraid of ET, the
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  extraterrestrial from the 80s. I can't do it.
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  I'm sorry. I've been afraid of him since I
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  was three years old. I I can't look at him.
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  If I look at him, I get instantly nauseous.
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  It's really bad. So anyway, it's so sad.
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  Yeah, I was traumatized as a child.
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  I should have never watched it when I did.
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  I was too young. Yeah, yeah, because it's
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  actually pretty scary. If you're quite young, it's bad.
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  It's honestly, it's disturbing even for adults because it's
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  sad. I That's what I hear.
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  We won't do that, I promise. We'll leave it be.
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  Very good. I do want to talk about one of
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  the little creatures that are in the episodes because they think
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  they're cute. They're like tiny rhinoceroses.
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  That are, oh, the beasties, the the scalder.
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  They're they're tall. They're called scalders, which I
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  guess is fitting because they're around the acid pools, the acid
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  cavern things. And they do have I'm looking at
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  a picture of one they look like I they're they're typical Star
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  Wars. Like they look like a tick but
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  it has rhinoceros, tusks or or I guess elephant, but it has like
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  wrinkles. It has cute little feets.
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  It has cute little eyes. I would totally ride one.
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  I think they look really sweet. Their faces look really sweet.
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  They're herbivore, so they're not going to, they're not going
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  to hurt a soul, really. They were the ones that had the
• 22:13
  ability to sense when the geysers would go off and somehow
• 22:16
  Jar Jar was aware enough to like look around and.
• 22:20
  I know, shockingly observant for someone who can't stand up
• 22:25
  without falling down, it's true. But I actually think I want to
• 22:28
  give him some credit here because he does come from kind
• 22:32
  of a herd family, like a species.
• 22:36
  Yeah, Grant granted. Underwater, you know, a clan of
• 22:40
  sorts, so maybe he's more attuned to the natural life.
• 22:44
  I'm giving him a lot of credit here, but he seems to do well.
• 22:48
  I think that's true though. Yeah, the Gungans are known for
• 22:52
  being like the more nature base. They have technology, but it's
• 22:55
  like their own kind of technology.
• 22:56
  It's not like the bigger empire of quote UN quote, I don't know,
• 23:01
  Republic technology, whatever you want to call it.
• 23:03
  But yeah, I I definitely He saves the day, does all of this.
• 23:11
  Hondo catches A Sith Lord. Two Jedi are captured with the
• 23:16
  Sith Lord by a bunch of pirates and this guy saves the day.
• 23:24
  I again I just how does. It happen like Anakin can't let
• 23:30
  him have his moment either, because at the very end, Jar
• 23:34
  Jar's like, oh, you were in trouble.
• 23:35
  And Anakin's like, no, no, we we weren't in trouble.
• 23:39
  We were. We had it under control.
• 23:41
  I credit this to him knowing that Jar Jar will go back and
• 23:44
  report to Padme, and if Padme knows that they were in trouble,
• 23:47
  then she's going to be like the fuck you know.
• 23:50
  I sent you two out there because I thought you'd have this under
• 23:54
  control the whole time. They were just a mess, so.
• 23:57
  Being electrocuted. Yeah, Jar Jar saves the day
• 24:05
  something. But I guess he did.
• 24:10
  Don't you know? Senator Karis?
• 24:13
  Senator Karis? Whatever.
• 24:15
  At least he doesn't a service. I don't want to see it.
• 24:20
  He's he didn't do him a disservice.
• 24:21
  I don't know if he did him a service, but he at least
• 24:24
  finished the mission or what they were sent there to do.
• 24:27
  Yeah. And he tried to like, even
• 24:29
  though he was scared he would do something because he knew it was
• 24:32
  what Senator Karis would do. Yeah, so that was honorable.
• 24:36
  Senator Karis was voiced by Corey Burton, by the way, which
• 24:39
  I thought was, oh, I I had no idea.
• 24:42
  Nope. Countersu and Senator Karis are
• 24:46
  the same people. Well, I guess that's, I guess
• 24:49
  that's efficient if you're in the the recording room, you
• 24:52
  know. Yeah, seriously.
• 24:55
  So at the very end, when they're getting ready to leave, Obi Wan
• 24:59
  says let's leave uneven terms. And I think that's kind of the
• 25:02
  moment where Hondo falls in love with Obi Wan.
• 25:04
  Absolutely. He loves a good deal, even if
• 25:07
  it's UN unspoken, you know, leaving on good terms because he
• 25:12
  knows the damage that these Jedi can do.
• 25:15
  But Obi Wan's friendly enough to, you know, look, you didn't
• 25:19
  do anything. We didn't.
• 25:21
  None of this was intended. We're just going to see
• 25:23
  ourselves out. Yeah, we seek no revenge, but we
• 25:28
  know your monkey gasped everybody.
• 25:30
  It's fine. It's fine.
• 25:33
  He's a monkey and we'll get over it.
• 25:39
  Yeah, I think it's the moment that solidifies their friendship
• 25:41
  moving forward. Hondo is actually happy to see
• 25:44
  Obi Wan. Yeah, he every time from this
• 25:47
  moment forward, he gets a little pep in his step when he sees Obi
• 25:51
  Wan. You know, an unlikely
• 25:55
  friendship. I love those two.
• 25:59
  They're they're akin to the friendship that Obi Wan and
• 26:04
  Quinlan have on a on a level of like they tolerate each other,
• 26:08
  they know exactly who they are and they tolerate each other and
• 26:11
  everything's fine. Even though Obi Wan obviously
• 26:15
  has a much deeper back story with Quinlan Voss.
• 26:21
  Yeah, eventually, though eventually, though Obi Wan has a
• 26:25
  history with Hondo at the end of all of it.
• 26:29
  They do. It goes way back, yeah.
• 26:32
  Hondo will be friends with anyone as long as you don't take
• 26:36
  from him, you don't backstab him and you don't talk bad about
• 26:40
  him. That's, yeah, it's business.
• 26:43
  It's business. It's.
• 26:45
  Not personal, it's business. But also he might just kidnap
• 26:49
  you and ransom you, even if two friends.
• 26:51
  That too. It depends.
• 26:52
  It depends what can you do for him.
• 26:55
  I mean, he befriends Ezra down the line.
• 26:57
  Ezra was a kid, you know. Yeah, I was always wondering how
• 27:01
  sincere that was going to turn out to be because Ezra also
• 27:04
  became friends with Maul. Ezra gets kind of a sucker, does
• 27:12
  he? Also like he gets duped by a
• 27:14
  Lando too, I think. Also, oh, Lando's a part of it,
• 27:17
  yeah. In Rebels, Yes, yeah.
• 27:20
  Yeah, here's the thing about Ezra.
• 27:22
  I hope after all of his time spent on the Outer Rim, the the
• 27:27
  Outer, the the world, the other Galaxy with the Turtle people, I
• 27:31
  hope that he's learned a lesson or two about being duped.
• 27:40
  We'll see in Season 2, shall we? Fingers crossed.
• 27:43
  I have hope. I have hope.
• 27:45
  He's matured. He spent some time alone.
• 27:47
  I think he needed that. Everyone deserves some time
• 27:50
  alone. To to Soul Search.
• 27:54
  With Turtles, yeah, yeah. The three people that need time
• 28:02
  alone after this episode are Dooku in his bubble bath with
• 28:06
  his wine, Obi Wan, who goes back to a silent apartment and just
• 28:10
  stares at the wall, and Anakin, who probably went and just
• 28:16
  punched a hole in the wall after because he had.
• 28:19
  He had no way of taking it out on Dooku, so he had to take it
• 28:21
  out on somebody. Where's Clovis?
• 28:27
  We don't know Clovis yet, do we? I don't think so.
• 28:31
  I think it's coming up. Yeah, I don't think so yet.
• 28:33
  But yeah, he definitely just punched a hole in his wall and
• 28:36
  then covered it with his poster. That's it.
• 28:39
  Yeah. Oh, Obi Wan can't.
• 28:40
  So no one ever saw, and that's how you deal with being
• 28:47
  incarcerated with a Sith Lord. They should have all got
• 28:53
  matching tattoos afterwards. Of Hondo's face.
• 29:00
  Yeah, I guarantee you there's a tattoo artist in in Hondo's
• 29:03
  lair. Guaranteed.
• 29:05
  Oh yeah, for sure. I can totally see Obi Wan
• 29:09
  getting it on his hip. I feel like though if if you
• 29:12
  gotta say it to there, you would end up it would be like either
• 29:14
  backwards or like misspelled. Absolutely misspelled, which is
• 29:18
  how it should be after an episode like this.
• 29:26
  I love this idea. Disney, we're, we're here.
• 29:30
  If you need us, we're we're just right here.
• 29:32
  We're chilling. We're available.
• 29:33
  We've always got the ideas, yeah, all right.
• 29:44
  Our question for this mess of an arc that is truly delightful,
• 29:51
  what is your favorite? Tell us moment, Snarky sass line
• 29:57
  drop. Character Doesn't matter.
• 29:59
  There's a lot to pick from. Tell us your favorite thing from
• 30:01
  this two-part arc, and we will read it on next week's episode
• 30:06
  And next week's episode, we we just came up with it.
• 30:10
  In this episode, we're going to talk about the Indiana Jones
• 30:14
  connections with Star Wars and vice versa.
• 30:17
  And we're There's at least 20 things, right?
• 30:19
  There's at least 20 listed items.
• 30:23
  I think so, at least connect at least.
• 30:26
  So we're going to go through that list, talk about those
• 30:28
  moments and kind of discover them as we go.
• 30:32
  Because I can think of a few, but I can't think of 20 off the
• 30:34
  top of my head. So this is going to be good.
• 30:37
  Yeah, I can think of two off the top of my head, but I'll need to
• 30:39
  do some more research for the younger ones.
• 30:42
  Yeah, so join us next week we'll we'll be talking Indiana Jones
• 30:45
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• 30:49
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• 30:52
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