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Understanding and Managing Excessive Iron with Dr. Troy... · Revealing Wholeness with Dr.Troy

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  Speaker 1: Now Here is doctor Troy.
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  Speaker 3: Hello and welcome. I'm doctor Troy. This particular podcast is
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  Speaker 3: on excessive iron. I had a listener on our podcast
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  Speaker 3: ask the question what do we do with high iron?
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  Speaker 3: And we're going to explore those ideas. But instead of
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  Speaker 3: just simply giving you ideas to do, there are many
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  Speaker 3: questions that one has when it comes to iron. It's
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  Speaker 3: not just an iron issue, because there may be serum iron,
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  Speaker 3: which serum means blood, So what kind of iron is
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  Speaker 3: in the blood, and if that's high, then we know
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  Speaker 3: that all right, we are definitely not getting rid of
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  Speaker 3: iron in the blood, which can be a copper deficiency,
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  Speaker 3: can be a zinc deficiency, can be a molybdenum deficiency.
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  Speaker 3: And then there's also ferratin. Ferretin is stored iron. So
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  Speaker 3: if we have a lot of ferratin in the blood too,
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  Speaker 3: or that we have this high ferretin level, we now
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  Speaker 3: know that we are converting serum iron into stored iron.
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  Speaker 3: But stored iron and tissues can cause all kinds of issues.
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  Speaker 3: So just iron excess in the blood, we would say, well,
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  Speaker 3: why don't we just go give blood? And of course
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  Speaker 3: that would be the best thing to do, because people
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  Speaker 3: who need blood need your high iron in your blood.
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  Speaker 3: It's not like it's a bad thing for somebody who
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  Speaker 3: needs a transfusion, it actually would be helpful. However, there
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  Speaker 3: are other things that they look for in a blood transfusion,
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  Speaker 3: and so they may still reject your blood. And in
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  Speaker 3: that case, I've done podcasts talking about hemochromatosis before where
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  Speaker 3: we say, hey, just go give blood and if they
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  Speaker 3: will reject it, then you tell them to go ahead
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  Speaker 3: and take the blood and dump it, and they'll charge
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  Speaker 3: it for that, which is fine. You'd rather start feeling
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  Speaker 3: better anyways, because excess iron can do all kinds of things.
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  Speaker 3: So one of the things we would want to make
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  Speaker 3: sure is that you're not cooking in high iron pots
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  Speaker 3: and pans like cast iron. So you may want to
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  Speaker 3: at least control that. If you're taking supplements, you may
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  Speaker 3: want to look and see how much iron is in
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  Speaker 3: your supplements, how much spinach are you in fact doing,
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  Speaker 3: how much liver do you eat? Now? The rub here
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  Speaker 3: is that poor liver function is often associated with a
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  Speaker 3: high iron or inability to get rid of it, and
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  Speaker 3: you'll see authors even say that it's almost impossible to
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  Speaker 3: get rid of iron. I don't know that that's really likely. However,
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  Speaker 3: it is possible that it could even be a molybdenum deficiency,
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  Speaker 3: because molybdenum runs detoxification processes in the body. In fact,
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  Speaker 3: the kidneys want a fair amount of mobum molybdinum. Now
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  Speaker 3: it could be that let's say we have low ferratin
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  Speaker 3: and we have high serum iron. Well, you're just not
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  Speaker 3: converting your serum iron into ferratin. Or stored iron, And
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  Speaker 3: so we could be looking at a B six B
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  Speaker 3: twelve foliate, copper and zinc deficiency as well as molybdenum.
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  Speaker 3: And you think, well, but molybdenum you said would decreased iron. Well,
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  Speaker 3: just because when it's high it does tend to run
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  Speaker 3: detox processes, it also is used in the other direction,
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  Speaker 3: and you'll often find minerals controlling the forward and reverse
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  Speaker 3: of enzyme processes, so that's not unusual. Other things that
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  Speaker 3: you might experience with high iron over long periods of
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  Speaker 3: time are things like heart disease. You might have other
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  Speaker 3: types of hemolytic anemias, you might have degenerative or neurodegenerative conditions,
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  Speaker 3: and you can have gouty arthritis. Now in extreme cases,
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  Speaker 3: I suppose we could talk about cancer being part of
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  Speaker 3: the issue when it comes to high iron for long
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  Speaker 3: periods of time. Now, ferretin, What do we do if
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  Speaker 3: our stored iron is high in the form of ferratin,
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  Speaker 3: and let's say that your sere iron is within normal levels.
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  Speaker 3: Well over time, high ferretin can cause cardiovascular disease and
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  Speaker 3: it can be difficult on tissues to have a lot
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  Speaker 3: of stored iron that's where the real damage comes from,
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  Speaker 3: and so we can see things like cancer and some
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  Speaker 3: infections with high ferratin or stored iron. Alcoholism will cause
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  Speaker 3: this too because it depletes B vitamins and we can't
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  Speaker 3: reverse the stored iron into the serem iron and get
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  Speaker 3: rid of it, and so B vitamins become a big deal.
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  Speaker 3: When we want to try to shed excess iron and ferretin,
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  Speaker 3: we could have some liver and kidney disease as well
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  Speaker 3: as acne are all indicators of high ferratin. And again,
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  Speaker 3: acne is typically a vitamin A and a zinc deficiency,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, increased iron will just magnify it. So
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  Speaker 3: with that, those are kind of some of the ideas
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  Speaker 3: when it comes to how did we get here and
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  Speaker 3: what are some of the symptoms of these higher things.
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  Speaker 3: Now again we talk about we want to make sure
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  Speaker 3: that your cook wear is good. We want to make
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  Speaker 3: sure that your well water does not have a lot
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  Speaker 3: of iron, and if you're not on well water, great,
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  Speaker 3: and your supplements those are the easiest things to begin
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  Speaker 3: removing that iron. Now, we want to have a really
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  Speaker 3: good stomach acid, so hydrochloric acid production, because that hydrochloric
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  Speaker 3: acid helps with detox processes, not just molybdenum, but other
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  Speaker 3: things as well. Now, one of my favorite herbs to
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  Speaker 3: use with a high iron situation is milk thistle. It
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  Speaker 3: is not only liver protective, but it also irreversibly binds
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  Speaker 3: to iron. Now, it's difficult to get really good milk thistle,
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  Speaker 3: so if you've got it from the grocery store, you
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  Speaker 3: might have to take a little bit. But let's say
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  Speaker 3: that you know your numbers and you've got both high
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  Speaker 3: iron and high ferytin, you could legitimately have a hemochromatope
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  Speaker 3: situation going on. I find that there's a lot of
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  Speaker 3: people out there throwing around the hemochromatosis diagnosis, which I'm
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  Speaker 3: not so sold on for most people. I don't think
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  Speaker 3: humans by and large are just deficient or defunct in
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  Speaker 3: their ability to get rid of iron. I think there's
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  Speaker 3: a lot of zinc deficiencies and a lot of molybdenum deficiencies,
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  Speaker 3: as well as B vitamins, because B vitamins are very
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  Speaker 3: heat liable, meaning they get destroyed with heating, and so
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  Speaker 3: all this highly processed, overheated food that we eat, even
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  Speaker 3: some of the protein powders and mewle replacement shakes that
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  Speaker 3: people will do are overly heated to dry them quickly
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  Speaker 3: to bring them to market and therefore make money, not
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  Speaker 3: for your health, but just simply to make money. So
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  Speaker 3: milk thistle is an excellent little herb to not only
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  Speaker 3: protect the liver, because if you have high iron, you
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  Speaker 3: likely have liver trouble, and so it's nice to have
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  Speaker 3: some support for the liver in the form of milk
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  Speaker 3: as well as the iron binding capacity. But you should
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  Speaker 3: be doing some blood tests fairly routinely four to six
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  Speaker 3: weeks and to see how you're doing. You may still
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  Speaker 3: want to go ahead and do blood letting or phlebotomy.
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  Speaker 3: Make sure that if it's super high, like I have
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  Speaker 3: a client right now, that their seerum iron is within tolerance,
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  Speaker 3: it's not catastrophic over one hundred and fifty. They're in
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  Speaker 3: their one thirties, and so it's a little elevated. Their
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  Speaker 3: iron saturation, which should be right around thirty two, becomes
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  Speaker 3: we become nervous at over fifty. But she's at a
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  Speaker 3: forty one, and so hey, let's do some milk thistle.
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  Speaker 3: It's really her ferretin that's quite high, and with that
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  Speaker 3: high ferretin, we now run the risk of promoting things
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  Speaker 3: like diabetes and metabolic syndrome and things of this nature.
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  Speaker 3: So we want to be at least somewhat all wise
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  Speaker 3: about the whole situation that we're that we're working on now.
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  Speaker 3: When we have this excessive overload, it can if not
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  Speaker 3: already having a damaged liver, it can damage our liver.
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  Speaker 3: The hepatocytes or liver cells they don't like high iron
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  Speaker 3: for long periods of time, so that's where we get
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  Speaker 3: things like liver disease and sorrhosis where the tissues or
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  Speaker 3: the cells in the liver are literally being destroyed by
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  Speaker 3: the high iron because of its ability to mess up
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  Speaker 3: phwarp proteins. All of that, the cells lose their functionability
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  Speaker 3: as well as mitochondrial function goes down. And if mitochondria
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  Speaker 3: is a new word for you, that is the powerhouse
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  Speaker 3: of the cell where we make all of our energy.
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  Speaker 3: And so the mitochondria are kind of coming forward and
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  Speaker 3: they're literally in mainstream talk these days. So if this
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  Speaker 3: is your first time hearing it, just know that you're
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  Speaker 3: probably going to hear it more and more because it
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  Speaker 3: is these mitochondria that people are trying to target to
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  Speaker 3: help with longevity and living longer, all that kind of stuff. Now,
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  Speaker 3: the longer the iron, it can settle out into the
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  Speaker 3: brain and we get things like Alzheimer's and Parkinson's and
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  Speaker 3: even cardiovascular disease is right behind it. So we definitely
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  Speaker 3: want to get iron levels down. We don't want to
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  Speaker 3: continue to see them just abound. Now, some of the
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  Speaker 3: things that can help are those be vitamins like B six,
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  Speaker 3: B twelve, things of that nature. And we're going to
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  Speaker 3: find that B twelve is in a decent amount of foods,
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  Speaker 3: things like liver, sardines, salmon, tuna, halibate, beef, cheese, eggs, milk.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, there's a lot of sources. And right along
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  Speaker 3: with that B twelve you're going to find that B
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  Speaker 3: six with it. That's also super helpful in converting that
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  Speaker 3: ferytin into seerm iron as the milk thistle begins to
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  Speaker 3: pull it out of the system. So those are some
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  Speaker 3: ideas for you as you move forward and trying to
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  Speaker 3: figure out what is this whole thing I'm dealing with
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  Speaker 3: when it comes to this high iron. And so B
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  Speaker 3: twelve is an excellent thing to be doing. Now, all
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  Speaker 3: of this is to say is that you should have
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  Speaker 3: somebody monitoring you. You shouldn't just trying to be doing this
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  Speaker 3: alone because high iron can be not a good thing.
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  Speaker 3: So as you do things like blood letting and you
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  Speaker 3: start to repair your liver, and if you're imbibing in alcohol,
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  Speaker 3: you may want to slow that down. You may want
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  Speaker 3: to go after some sources of be vitamins that would
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  Speaker 3: be wise. Things like blackstrap molasses are excellent sources of
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  Speaker 3: be vitamins, even B twelve and BE six a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: We could even do some things like nutritional yeast not
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  Speaker 3: you know, let's say that you're mostly vegetarian. It's difficult
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  Speaker 3: to get B twelve in your body as a vegetarian. However,
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  Speaker 3: there's foods that you can do. It's just not that
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  Speaker 3: they're very potent. Organ Meats are by far going to
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  Speaker 3: be a better source for most of these things. And
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  Speaker 3: so there's lots of products out there that tote organs.
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  Speaker 3: Hey take organs in a pill. Now, the question is
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  Speaker 3: how did they process it? Did they heat the crap
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  Speaker 3: out of the organs? Is there anything even alive in
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  Speaker 3: the pill? So before you run out and buy any
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  Speaker 3: willy nilly product that says organs. You may want to
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  Speaker 3: research them and see how they process their organs so
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  Speaker 3: that you can figure out whether or not they're absorbable
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  Speaker 3: or whether there's any viability in them. So, with that understanding,
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  Speaker 3: I hope that's helpful. There is way more than that
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  Speaker 3: just to high iron, but that's going to get us
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  Speaker 3: a good start. So if you find that you're doing
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  Speaker 3: things and it's helping, great, I'd love to hear from you.
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  Speaker 3: If you're struggling with it, I would also love to
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  Speaker 3: hear from you so that we could kind of put
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  Speaker 3: together a program that may be more targeted for you
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  Speaker 3: and do the right blood work so that we would
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  Speaker 3: know what's going on. Now, just for some a little
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  Speaker 3: bit additional help. On a comprehensive metabolic panel, which is
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  Speaker 3: a common blood test, you will find that people get
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  Speaker 3: There is two enzymes that you should be interested in,
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  Speaker 3: and that is the alt and the AST. Those are
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  Speaker 3: tissue enzymes, and when we have high iron, we may
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  Speaker 3: see that those tissues are being destroyed. Now, let's say
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  Speaker 3: that you have high iron and high ferretin and you
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  Speaker 3: have low alt. That tells us that you are definitely
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  Speaker 3: B six efficient. I say definitely, I'm going to say
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  Speaker 3: it's very strong. It's probably not on the border of
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  Speaker 3: one hundred percent, definitely, but it is a very high
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  Speaker 3: percentage that you're B six efficient. You could be FOL
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  Speaker 3: eight deficient as well. And those things will help convert
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  Speaker 3: the ferretin to iron so that you can start getting
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  Speaker 3: rid of it. But they will also be helpful to
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  Speaker 3: your liver to be repairing as best as it can.
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  Speaker 3: So just some tidbits for you as we end this podcast,
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  Speaker 3: and I hope this was helpful. Until next time, I'm
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  Speaker 3: doctor Troy, and remember there is way more right with
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  Speaker 3: you than there is wrong with you.
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