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NANNY STEALS BABY ARIANNA, 2? MOMMY'S BODY FOUND IN PARK · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: A beautiful little girl, Arianna Fitz, just two years old,
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  Speaker 1: disappears along with mom. Nikki age thirty two. How does
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  Speaker 1: a two year old little girl just vanish into thin
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  Speaker 1: air and urgent tonight? The mom? The mom? A little
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  Speaker 1: Ariana is found dead. Who took the baby? Good evening,
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  Speaker 1: I mean as he grais is Crime Stories. I want
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  Speaker 1: to thank you for being with us.
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  Speaker 2: A lively two year old and her mother reported missing
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  Speaker 2: after mom doesn't show up for work.
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  Speaker 1: Little Ariana fits just two years old when she goes
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  Speaker 1: missing along with her mother. Niki aged thirty two. How
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  Speaker 1: does a two year old little girl just simply vanish
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  Speaker 1: into thin air? Straight out to Sydney? Silvanni joined US
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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories investigative reporter. What happened well?
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  Speaker 3: Nikki Nicole was working to save money for an apartment
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  Speaker 3: for her and Ariana. She worked at a best Buy
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  Speaker 3: in San Francisco and her permanent residence was currently with
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  Speaker 3: her sister in Santa Cruz, so Nicole had a very
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  Speaker 3: long commute back and forth to work, making it hard
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  Speaker 3: for her to find childcare for Ariana. Arianna was left
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  Speaker 3: with a babysitter for days at a time. This was
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  Speaker 3: a couple that was helping Nicole through this time period
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  Speaker 3: taking care of Ariana for days at a time.
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  Speaker 4: My sister was having difficulty with the babysitter. When it
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  Speaker 4: came time to pick her up pick Ariana up, they
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  Speaker 4: would come up with excuses as to why they aren't home.
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  Speaker 4: There's a struggle for her to get her to get
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  Speaker 4: Arianna back, and the end to that struggle ended up
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  Speaker 4: in Nikki's murder.
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  Speaker 1: That's from our friends at Kpix and the Grio Politics.
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  Speaker 1: This sounds like tott Mom, Casey Anthony all over again, Sydney,
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  Speaker 1: because in that case we were told that there was
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  Speaker 1: a babysitter that just wouldn't give baby Kelly back. So
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  Speaker 1: tell me about the difficulties Nicole was having and getting
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  Speaker 1: her baby girl, Arianna back from the babysitter.
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  Speaker 3: Well, just as the passas said, Nicole couldn't get them
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  Speaker 3: to commit to pick up times for Arianna, they would
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  Speaker 3: dodge her. They would say that they were out, they
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  Speaker 3: weren't at home at the moment, and so Aria Nicole
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  Speaker 3: developed this plan to confront them. She wanted her daughter
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  Speaker 3: back permanently. She wanted to cut off this babysitter from
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  Speaker 3: access to Arianna. Fully, and that was the night that
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  Speaker 3: Nicole disappeared.
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  Speaker 1: So we're really looking at two separate cases. Right there
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  Speaker 1: is Arianna Fitz two years old at the time she
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  Speaker 1: goes missing. What do we know?
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  Speaker 5: Makes me say, because I can't see her smile anymore,
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  Speaker 5: and it makes me angry because that was stolen. It
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  Speaker 5: was rare to not see a smile on Nikki's face. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: even when you know times were hard for her, you know,
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  Speaker 5: she's still put on a good face.
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  Speaker 1: That is mom. Nicole's sister, Contessa test Fits speaking out.
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  Speaker 1: Can you imagine losing your sister and the baby two
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  Speaker 1: years old all at once and getting no answers. That's
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  Speaker 1: for our friends at kp i X. So there was
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  Speaker 1: an ongoing struggle, and Nicole tried to cut the babysitter
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  Speaker 1: who was assuming more and more responsibility that was not
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  Speaker 1: agreed to by the mom. So Sidney, you're telling me
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  Speaker 1: she was trying to cut the babysitter out of the
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  Speaker 1: baby's life.
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  Speaker 3: Correct. So, after Nicole finishes a shift at Best Buy,
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  Speaker 3: She's got an apartment at this point, and she has
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  Speaker 3: a roommate in this apartment. She tells the roommate that
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  Speaker 3: she's going to confront the babysitter, and Nicole visits an
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  Speaker 3: ATM and she pulls out a decent amount of cash,
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  Speaker 3: presumably to pay this babysitter to end their relationship and
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  Speaker 3: say thank you for everything you've done for me. I
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  Speaker 3: no longer need your services. So Nicole left their apartment
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  Speaker 3: that evening, planning to return home with Arianna.
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  Speaker 1: Straight out to special guest joining us tonight is Brian Fitzgibbons.
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  Speaker 1: He is Director of Operations USPA nation Wide Security, leading
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  Speaker 1: a team of investigators around the world finding missing people
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  Speaker 1: and performing extractions, saving them if possible. He is a
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  Speaker 1: former Marine and Iraqi war vet. Brian, that is a
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  Speaker 1: recipe for disaster. It's a powder kig waiting to be ignited.
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  Speaker 1: And the fact that Nicki and Arianna go missing at
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  Speaker 1: the same time just as she's going to confront this babysitter,
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  Speaker 1: a babysitter we already know has emotional issues because she's
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  Speaker 1: not handing the baby back over. When I was a babysitter,
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  Speaker 1: when I was a teen girl babysitting, why would I
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  Speaker 1: want to hold on to the baby. The parents would
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  Speaker 1: come get the baby, or they would come home and
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  Speaker 1: I would leave who thinks of keeping the baby right there,
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  Speaker 1: there's a problem.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, you see a pattern of a very controlling relationship
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  Speaker 6: from this babysitter to Nicole, And I think it's important
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  Speaker 6: for us to recall the relationship was derived through a
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  Speaker 6: street preacher who was the aunt of these babysitters, who
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  Speaker 6: had a very contentious relationship with Nicole up to the
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  Speaker 6: point of police involvement. When Nicole was trying to collect
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  Speaker 6: items that belonged to Ariana from this street preacher who's
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  Speaker 6: the aunt of the babysitter, she had to call the
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  Speaker 6: police in order to access the baby's car seat. So
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  Speaker 6: this is a very red flag relationship in general.
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  Speaker 5: For that to happen to her, along with her kid
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  Speaker 5: being gone, there's just there's just no way that it's
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  Speaker 5: not related.
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  Speaker 7: We do not believe that Arianna was with Nicole at
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  Speaker 7: the time of her death, but we do believe that
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  Speaker 7: Arianna's disappearance is related to Nicole's murder.
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  Speaker 8: I really hate to think someone Nicole trusted with her child,
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  Speaker 8: that someone Nicole trusted as a friend, would do anything
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  Speaker 8: to harm either Nicole or Ariana.
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  Speaker 1: Police, unlike the top Mom Casey Anthony case, there's a
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  Speaker 1: real babysitter here that did not want to give up
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  Speaker 1: baby Arianna. By the way, those interviews from CBS l A,
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  Speaker 1: k R O N four and our friends at kp
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  Speaker 1: I X Arianna fits missing. Arianna and her mom Nicole
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  Speaker 1: reported missing April five, San Francisco, but they have not
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  Speaker 1: been seen since February. Reported missing April, not seen since February.
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  Speaker 1: And then a very very disturbing, upsetting discovery to Sydney
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  Speaker 1: Silvana joining us. Sydney, the mom's body Nicole is found
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  Speaker 1: buried in McLaren Park April eight. Is that correct?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, a week after Nicole is last seen alive. Her
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  Speaker 3: body is found lying in the fetal position in a
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  Speaker 3: shallow grave in an Oakland park, covered by a piece
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  Speaker 3: of plywood with a strange symbol spray painted on it.
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  Speaker 1: Now you're seeing shots of John McLaren Park in San Francisco. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: tell me again how the body was found Sydney Silvannie.
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  Speaker 3: Nicole was lying in a shallow grave in the fetal position,
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  Speaker 3: wearing the shirt she was last seen wearing alive. There
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  Speaker 3: is a piece of plywood covering the grave.
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  Speaker 1: That would be a blue Best Buy shirt. Interesting, so
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  Speaker 1: that indicates to me Brian Fitzgibbons, that she was killed
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  Speaker 1: the night she went, the night she left best by
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  Speaker 1: and went to go confront the babysitter.
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  Speaker 6: Exactly right. It corroborates every statement that was made to
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  Speaker 6: Nicole's roommate at the time and provides a piece to
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  Speaker 6: the timeline right. She didn't bring any other clothing with her.
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  Speaker 6: She wasn't planning on running away. She wasn't planning on
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  Speaker 6: doing anything other than confronting this babysitter and obtaining her
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  Speaker 6: child back.
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  Speaker 1: On April eighth, a gardener in the John McClaren Park
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  Speaker 1: finds a large piece of wood behind a clump of
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  Speaker 1: ivy covered bushes with an odd silver character painted on it.
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  Speaker 1: There it is underneath that wood the body of mom
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  Speaker 1: Nicole fits, as Sidney Silvanni told you, in a fetal position,
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  Speaker 1: uncovered in a shallow grave. She was found dead. Police
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  Speaker 1: then focus on people who watched baby Ariana while her mom,
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  Speaker 1: trying to make a living, commuted two hours to go
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  Speaker 1: to work. Important the body of little Ariana has never
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  Speaker 1: been found, leading investigators to believe the point of the
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  Speaker 1: murder was to get rid of mom Nicole in order
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  Speaker 1: for the killer to keep baby Ariana. Sydney Sumner, This
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  Speaker 1: is diabolical if true. Tell me about the search for
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  Speaker 1: baby Ariana.
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  Speaker 3: Police executed over thirty search warrants in Oakland, Emeryville, and
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  Speaker 3: Daily City in connection with the locations where they thought
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  Speaker 3: Ariana may have been staying with people connected to the babysitter.
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  Speaker 3: They seized more than thirty thousand keys pues of evidence
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  Speaker 3: at each of these properties, but there has been no
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  Speaker 3: sign of Ariana.
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  Speaker 9: The FBI is working very closely with the San Francisco
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  Speaker 9: Police Department, and we are in this side by side
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  Speaker 9: through the conducting of interviews, the collective information, the analysis
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  Speaker 9: of forensic evidence, and following every lead until we are
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  Speaker 9: able to determine both what happened to Arianna as well
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  Speaker 9: as what happened to Nicole and to hold those people accountable.
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  Speaker 7: We have developed many new leads. We have reinterviewed witnesses
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  Speaker 7: who have provided us with new information. We've had new
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  Speaker 7: individuals come forward and provide us information as well.
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  Speaker 1: You're seeing FBI's Scott Shelbel speaking first on Inside the
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  Speaker 1: FBI podcast and second at kron He stated that the
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  Speaker 1: FBI I had developed many new lays by reinterviewing witnesses. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so Rayfus Gibbons. Reinterviewing witnesses doesn't mean you're covering the
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  Speaker 1: same ground necessarily. It means you're mining those same witnesses
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  Speaker 1: for new information.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and not only new information. Investigators are going to
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  Speaker 6: find if there are inconsistencies in a story that you
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  Speaker 6: told me three months, three years ago to today, and
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  Speaker 6: are there major inconsistencies, did something flag against what another
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  Speaker 6: witness has said, or is there new corroborating information witness
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  Speaker 6: to witness. So in a case like this where everyone
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  Speaker 6: associating close to this case believes that Ariana is indeed alive,
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  Speaker 6: those reinterviews our goal.
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  Speaker 3: They're very valuable.
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  Speaker 7: We believe there are multiple people with direct knowledge of
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  Speaker 7: this case who have not fully cooperated.
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  Speaker 9: With law enforcement.
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  Speaker 7: We believe there's even a larger circle of people with
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  Speaker 7: indirect knowledge of what happened from our forends.
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  Speaker 1: At KRO And that's again the FBI agent on the
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  Speaker 1: case at the Sydney Sumner. What people I assume the
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  Speaker 1: witnesses they're trying to force out of the woodwork are
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  Speaker 1: connected to the babysitter, Maybe a neighbor, maybe a friend,
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  Speaker 1: maybe a relative. Maybe they know where the babysitter is
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  Speaker 1: now with Arianna.
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  Speaker 3: That is my assumption as well. Anyone connected to the babysitter.
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  Speaker 3: Anyone who worked with Nicole at Best Buy, anyone who
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  Speaker 3: may have been on public transport with her as she
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  Speaker 3: traveled to try and meet this babysitter to recover Ariana,
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  Speaker 3: the roommate that she lived with at the apartment, anyone
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  Speaker 3: with any kind of connection to this case.
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  Speaker 1: Anyone who can.
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  Speaker 3: Remember Nicole shopping at Best Buy taking public transport that night.
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  Speaker 3: Law enforcement is casting their net why trying to solve
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  Speaker 3: this case.
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  Speaker 5: I do believe that Arianna is alive and is out there,
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  Speaker 5: and I do believe that she is being taken care of,
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  Speaker 5: but that still is not okay. Arianna still needs to
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  Speaker 5: be at home.
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  Speaker 7: We know that at the time of her death, she
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  Speaker 7: was working hard to find a safe and stable home
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  Speaker 7: for both of her daughters. And we know that Arianna
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  Speaker 7: has a loving family that can't wait to find her
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  Speaker 7: and bring her home.
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  Speaker 1: Great politics and kron four. So the functioning theory, the
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  Speaker 1: working theory Brian Forsgibbons, is that baby Arianna is alive
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  Speaker 1: as we go to air tonight.
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  Speaker 6: That's correct, and I think that this has been maintained
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  Speaker 6: by investigators since the beginning, that they do believe that
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  Speaker 6: Arianna is alive today and that you know, hey, this
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  Speaker 6: this investigation is nationwide at this point because you have
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  Speaker 6: I have to assume that very quickly after Nicole's murder,
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  Speaker 6: and assuming that Ariana's disappearance is associated with that, that
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  Speaker 6: she was very quickly moved across state lines, that this
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  Speaker 6: search expands beyond that San Francisco area and goes nationwide.
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  Speaker 10: The news was shocking. Just seven days after Nicki was
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  Speaker 10: last seen, her body was found here in the San
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  Speaker 10: Francisco Park in a shallow grave. Investigators have said that
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  Speaker 10: she was murdered, but have never revealed the cause of death.
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  Speaker 5: My sister Niki did not deserve what happened to her,
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  Speaker 5: and the way that we can help Niki is to
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  Speaker 5: bring Arianna home.
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  Speaker 1: That is from our friends at NIKMA National Center for
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  Speaker 1: Missing and Exploited Children and the Greyo Politics, So to
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  Speaker 1: you City Silvani joining US Crime Stories investigative reporter was
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  Speaker 1: the status of mom Nichole's a murder case.
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  Speaker 3: The murder case is also open and unsolved. Police have
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  Speaker 3: never revealed Nichole's cause of death. We don't know what
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  Speaker 3: killed her, but we do know they consider it a murder.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's really hard for me to believe Brian Fitzgibbons
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  Speaker 1: that we don't have DNA, we don't have a witness,
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  Speaker 1: we got nothing. Nicole was headed to the babysitter to
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  Speaker 1: confront her that night after a two hour commute to
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  Speaker 1: work at Best Buy to support Arianna. She's never seen
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  Speaker 1: alive again. Months past before they're even reported missing. That's
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  Speaker 1: plenty of time for the perp to get away with Arianna.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and in this case, it was seven days that
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  Speaker 6: Nicole was missing before her body was found. And you
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  Speaker 6: have to understand there was a number of days before
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  Speaker 6: she was reported missing her coworkers. She didn't show up
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  Speaker 6: for a shift the next day. A missing person's report
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  Speaker 6: was filed maybe within four forty eight to seventy two
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  Speaker 6: hours after that, and it took investigators three four days
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  Speaker 6: before anything was really moving on this. So that was
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  Speaker 6: plenty of time for Ariana to be moved well outside
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  Speaker 6: of the San Francisco area.
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  Speaker 9: We do not look at Ariana's disappearance as a cold case.
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  Speaker 9: Or as a case that is put onto a back burner.
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  Speaker 9: This is a case we are actively looking at and
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  Speaker 9: it's going to remain an active case until we are
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  Speaker 9: able to resolve it.
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  Speaker 11: San Francisco Police Department has authorized a two hundred and
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  Speaker 11: fifty thousand dollars reward for information leading to the identification, arrest,
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  Speaker 11: and convictions of those responsible for Nicole Fitz's murder and
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  Speaker 11: the disappearance of Arianna.
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  Speaker 1: That from our friends at Inside the FBI podcast and
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  Speaker 1: kro In four where Ariana Goes Missing. Ryphus gibbons I
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  Speaker 1: belie believe that rewards can work. They don't always work
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  Speaker 1: because a lot of times the people that know where
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  Speaker 1: the missing person is or the missing child is somehow
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  Speaker 1: involved in the kidnap or the abduction. However, two hundred
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  Speaker 1: and fifty thousand dollars a quarter of a million dollars,
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  Speaker 1: that's a lot of money to leave on the table.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a tremendous amount of money. And you know
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  Speaker 6: what the hope with this reward is is that somebody
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  Speaker 6: associated in the FBI agent named this specifically, that they
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  Speaker 6: believe that there are individuals that have indirect knowledge of
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  Speaker 6: this case. That's a quarter of a million dollars for
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  Speaker 6: that person to come forward and solve potentially a murder
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  Speaker 6: and also the disappearance of a beautiful little girl. So
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  Speaker 6: you know, I hope tonight, for anybody watching this, if
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  Speaker 6: you have that indirect knowledge of this case, pick up
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  Speaker 6: the phone, call the FBI, and make that phone.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 1: Joining us, a very special guest with us tonight is
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  Speaker 1: Contessa Fitz. This is Nicole Fitz's sister, Arianna's auntie. Miss Fitz,
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  Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. Do you remember when
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  Speaker 1: you learned your sister Nicole was missing?
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  Speaker 2: I do, I do.
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  Speaker 5: I was driving home, actually so I was driving home.
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  Speaker 5: I was actually a passenger my partner at the time,
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  Speaker 5: and I we were driving home and I get a
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  Speaker 5: text message from my other sister and the text message reads,
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  Speaker 5: heye is NICKI missing? And I immediately respond like no,
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  Speaker 5: I just talked to her a couple of days ago.
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  Speaker 2: And I can't.
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  Speaker 5: Remember if I was prompted to open up social media
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  Speaker 5: or if it was just an instinct thing, but I
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  Speaker 5: opened up Facebook and the first thing I see is
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  Speaker 5: a post that was made by my sister's best friend
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  Speaker 5: with my sister's pictures, saying have you seen this person?
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  Speaker 5: And like immediately we pull over because we're like what,
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  Speaker 5: like what is this? And so the first thing I
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  Speaker 5: do is I call Nikki, Like I call her and
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  Speaker 5: no answer, and then I send her a text message
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  Speaker 5: and so we kind of like we gather ourselves and
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  Speaker 5: luckily we were close to home, so we drive home
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  Speaker 5: and immediately we just start to try to figure out
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  Speaker 5: like what, like what happened, Like what's going on?
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  Speaker 1: What did you find out?
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  Speaker 5: So for that first first day, we weren't able to
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  Speaker 5: find out anything.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we called everyone that we could think of.
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  Speaker 5: You know, we were calling hospitals, and I was searching
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  Speaker 5: through my sister's social media to see if who I
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  Speaker 5: should contact that maybe she's been hanging out with like
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  Speaker 5: her friends, or you know, if she went somewhere with
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  Speaker 5: a friend and you know, something happened, or like who
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  Speaker 5: was the last person to see her, because the person
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  Speaker 5: who her best friend, who posted the Facebook posts, they
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  Speaker 5: worked together, and it's not like Nikki to not show
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  Speaker 5: up for work. She's the person who, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 5: the managers will call upon if you know, if they
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  Speaker 5: were short staffed or they needed someone to come in
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  Speaker 5: early or stay late you know, she was dedicated that way,
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  Speaker 5: So so we were trying to figure out who who
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  Speaker 5: would possibly have some answers where she could be or
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  Speaker 5: what's even going on. Like first of all, it was
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  Speaker 5: just like so like surreal, Like it was just you know,
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  Speaker 5: strange that this is the position we were in, that
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  Speaker 5: this is what was happening, like searching for my sister
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  Speaker 5: like that no one's seen. And so we spent all
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  Speaker 5: night just calling everyone we could think of, and we
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  Speaker 5: filed a missing person's report that evening and then it
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  Speaker 5: kind of became this three day search. So and in
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  Speaker 5: that process we were being referred to different police departments,
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  Speaker 5: but at one point we were referred to a special
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  Speaker 5: victims unit, and just a lot of like uh, you know, Chinese,
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  Speaker 5: get help of where she could be.
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  Speaker 2: And one of the things that made.
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  Speaker 5: It a little bit difficult, or made it a lot
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: difficult is because she and her daughter haven't been seen,
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: the law enforcement couldn't consider it foul play. So as
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: a result of that, they couldn't ping her phone or
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: like check her like debit cards to see where she's
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: been because since there was no foul play suspected at
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: the time, that would have been a violation of her rights.
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: So so it was just a lot of yees things
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: not answered.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: But wait a minute, Miss Fitz. Guys joining me is
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Arianna's auntie and Nicole the mom's sister. Contessa fits. That
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: doesn't make sense to me. Didn't you tell them that
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: she never misses work, she is never out of reach
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: by text or phone. But still they would not state
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: this was foul play.
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they said, because you know, it could have been
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: a situation where she just needed to get away, like
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: you know what, like maybe life was just a little
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: too much and she just you know, up and left
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: with her daughter, is what they were saying.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: But they what do you make of that? Contessa?
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's it's frustrating, but I mean, I just
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: I just have to understand, is all I can do
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: is understand that, you know, because they told me it
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: would be it would have been in violation of her rights.
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: You know, I just have to understand.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Had she ever done that before, Miss Fitz? Had she
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: ever just disappeared for quote me time.
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: No, No, she never had, and I knew that wasn't
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: the case.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Okay, hold on, just one mom at miss Fitz joining
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: us right now? Is doctor John Delatori. He is a
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: licensed psychologist specializing in forensic psychology. Doctor Delatory, why is
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: it when a woman goes missing? I hear it over
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: and over and over. She left to go be with
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: her new boyfriend. No boyfriend, she left for me time. No, No,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: this mom never did that. Yes, life was hard. She
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: had a one plus hour commute each way, that's two
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: and a half hours every day to get to a
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: job at Best Buy, and she would have to leave
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: the baby at a babysitter then go back and get
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: the baby. I mean, that is a lot for a
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: mom to go through. Being a mom is enough, But
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: you throw in two and a half hours commute every day,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: standing on your feet, dealing with irate, grumpy ahle customers,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: and then you get back in your car and try
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: to get back to your child. That's a lot, Doctor Delatory.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: This mom was not off having her nails done at
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: a spa. No manny Paddy for her.
• 25:20
  Speaker 12: No. And it's you know, we get the sense that
• 25:22
  Speaker 12: the investigators weren't really trying to take this as seriously
• 25:25
  Speaker 12: as they needed to be there. Their flag should have
• 25:27
  Speaker 12: been up when that little two year old was also missing.
• 25:31
  Speaker 12: There's so many different sort of changes in patterns of behavior.
• 25:35
  Speaker 12: Right when you know that someone who is fairly consistent
• 25:39
  Speaker 12: and someone who is fairly responsible all of a sudden
• 25:42
  Speaker 12: just doesn't show up and is in communicado, then you
• 25:45
  Speaker 12: have to raise your flags. You have to start investigating,
• 25:48
  Speaker 12: because the longer it takes to find her, the more
• 25:51
  Speaker 12: likely it is that's some bad things, some other kind
• 25:54
  Speaker 12: of foul. The more likely it is that you're gonna
• 25:57
  Speaker 12: not be able to prevent even even worse. And right
• 26:01
  Speaker 12: now we're dealing with the worst thing with the baby
• 26:03
  Speaker 12: still missing.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: And Brian Fitzgibbons joining US Director Operations USP, a nationwide
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: security wife. It's Gibbons because Fitzgibbons leads a team. He
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: leads a team of investigators who go around the world
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: literally finding and extracting missing people. He is a former
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: marine and Iraqi war vet. Those first seventy two hours,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: forget that the first twenty four hours. The first hour
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: is so important. Think about it. If it's sixty mph,
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: somebody with that baby sixty miles an hour, if they've
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: got the baby in the car, that's why it's so important.
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah, And in this case, there was a tremendous amount
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: of time lost to ascertain the location of Ariana. So
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: whatever happened to Nicole happened. And it's widely believed that
• 26:56
  Speaker 6: Ariana was moved in the hours falling that. And you know,
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: again there'll be no digital evidence of that around who
• 27:06
  Speaker 6: had Ariana and where they took her?
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: You know, And Brian, I've said this to many a jury.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Humpty Dumpty had a great fall. Remember that all the
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: King's sources, all the King's men, could not put Humpty
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: together again. When you have a case like this and
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: time passes, you can't put it back together. You can't.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: People forget, people get lost, people move anyone around the
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: area where her body was found. They may have moved
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: by now, People in apartments, they're gone. It's so hard
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: to put a case back together again. Can Tessa Fitch
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: joining us tonight? This is Arianna's an tea, This is
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: Nicole Fitz, the mom's sister. You must have been going
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: out of your mind because I get what you're saying
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: about what the police said. Maybe she went willingly somewhere
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: with her daughter. We've got no indication of foul play.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: But then, Kntessa, when did you find out that she
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: wasn't on a walk about, she wasn't at a spa
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: having a manny Patty, your sister had been killed. When
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: did you learn that, kin, Tessa?
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: Uh So, On the third day of our search, I
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: get a phone call from the Hall of Justice in
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: San Francisco and it's a detective and he says to me, like,
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: you know, why don't you guys come in, meaning me
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: and my other sister, you know, why don't you come on,
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: come on in and we're going to get this figured out.
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: And for me, that was like the best news I
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: had heard. I was like, yes, finally, like we're.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Going to you know, we're going to find out what
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: happened and.
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: Where she is. And so we go to the Hall
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: of Justice and interviewed separately. My sister and I interviewed separately.
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: I do a thorough interview.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: Conversation with the detective and.
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: After we're done, he like he says to me, like,
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: why don't you and your sister like go take a break,
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: like you know, get a snack or something, and then
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: we'll talk to your sister. And so she and I
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: go to the elevator and then while we're at the elevator.
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: He comes out from his office and he's like, hey, like,
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: why don't you guys, actually, why don't you guys come
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: back in? And then we go back into the room
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: and then that's when he tells us that my sister's
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: body had been found.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: Misfits. You're actually at place HQ. You go get snacks,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: but before you can get on the elevator, they call
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: you back to tell you your sister's body has been found. Okay,
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: that must have been like a night mere blur. What
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: happened then?
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: Like that was.
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: I mean the way he but the way the detective
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: started to tell me, the way he praised his words.
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: He started with, this is the hardest thing I have
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: to tell you. And I knew what he was going
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: to say, and I just I just I cut him
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: off with an emotional reaction, just because you know, I
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: knew that that's what the next words.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: Were going to come out of his mouth.
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: And so I'm just I'm just there in that room
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: with my sister, and I just remember looking out this
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: window and just like I don't know, like almost like
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: a blackout, like almost like a blur, just like staring
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: out this out this window, like like what did I
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: just hear? Like, this is this is this is impossible
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: for him to tell me what he just told me,
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: and I I, you know, I don't even know. I
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: don't even know how long that moment was. And then
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: you know, my sister gives me a hug. And then
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: after some time we just we talked, we start talking
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: with the detectives again because we've got to now, we've
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: got to figure out where Ariane is.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: And so.
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: After that horrible which is even an understatement, after that
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: horrible moment, we you know, we start figuring out what
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: the next steps are, what we do to figure out,
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: you know, where Ariane is.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Did he tell you the manner of death?
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: Not in that moment, It was he told me where
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: she was found and that she was found by uh so,
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: she she was found in a park, she was found
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: by the like the custodio staff. And in that at
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: that moment, he didn't tell me how. It wasn't until
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: I got her death certificate that I knew. And I
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: think he was I think he was sparing me that information.
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: Like I do believe he was doing me a favor
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: by not telling me how it happened or how she
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: was found or you.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Know what what.
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: Like the the specifics of where she of how she
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: was found. So yeah, it wasn't until I got her
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: death certificate that that I that I figured it out
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: that you knew the truth.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: When I look at her best Buy shirt, when I
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: look at your sister Cole fits is best buy shirt.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: It just, I don't know, it just gets me so
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: upset to think how hard she was working to take
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: care of Ariana. Now she's been brutally murdered, and I
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: believe the killer took off with Arianna. Can Tessa, what
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: have you been doing you and your sister to try
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: to find Arianna.
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: The first thing we did immediately and we haven't stopped,
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: is we we made missing persons flyers. We took area
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: on his picture, we put all of our information, We
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: distributed them on all areas that we knew, you know,
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: my sister would frequent and we also didn't really know.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: The well at the time.
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: We were just referred to them as the babysitters. We
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: really didn't know much about them. So at the time,
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: my sister Nikki and we lived about about seventy miles
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: apart because we had moved out of San Francisco and
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: we were in Santa Cruz and so, and we would
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: still see Nicki and Ariana from time to time, like
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: we would go and pick them up from San Francisco,
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: like Nicky stays off and they would come and hang
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: out with us in Santa Cruz.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: But because we didn't live.
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: That close to each other, like I didn't really know,
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: like I didn't know at all the people who were
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: babysitting Areata.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: So that was one of the first things we had
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: to do too.
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: We had to figure out who these people are because
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: my sister was not the type of person to.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: Have to be.
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: A target for someone to attack her. And also at
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: the same time, her kid is missing, so we knew
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: that this had to be connected. And we're like, you know,
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: it's almost like a light bulb moment kind of is like,
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: you know, when in the days that we were looking
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: for my sister and we were flooding social media with
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: like you know, with with you know, teeking help and
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: like information for finding her. I mean, we were getting
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: so many responses from people that like people who I
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: hadn't heard from in years, like people who I've lost
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: touch with, like old classmates and stuff like that. And
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: you know, the one group of people who we heard
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: nothing from were the people who babysat Ariana, who supposedly
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: were my sister's friends.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: And I was like, this doesn't make any sense.
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: How come the people who spend so much time with
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: Arianna aren't showing any sort of concern or like you know,
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: providing any information. And so well, one of the first
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: things we did was we we had to figure out,
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: like how do we how do we figure out who
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: they are?
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Did you ever contact them?
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: Where?
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: Did you ever find them?
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: Not personally?
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: Uh, we've we were they ever found?
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: They were found? They were found.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: What do they say?
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: I mean from what I know what they told law
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: enforcement and is that you know, they they don't know
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: where Arion is and they had nothing to do with
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: any of this. And I don't believe that for a second.
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: I mean, like I said, my sister, why my sister
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: is not the type of person too, yeah, to get
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: herself into trouble or to be and you know, situations
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: where someone's going to come and attack her, like I said.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: And the fact that.
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: The fact is that they kind of just went off,
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: you know, went off the grid when this happened.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: Well, here's another thing that is puzzling to me, Contessa,
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: the fact that did your sister have a car?
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: No?
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: Okay, so how did she get back and forth? Was
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: she taking public transit to Best Buy?
• 37:24
  Speaker 13: Yeah?
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: She was on public transportation, okay, which makes it even harder.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: So what is concerning me among so many other things,
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: because your sister has been found dead. The fact that
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: later that day she was exchanging text messages saying she
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: was going to Fresno with a friend named Sam, that
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: they were driving, but she doesn't have a car, right.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: And another text came in stating, spending time with my
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: three year old need this break b r a K
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: E right as opposed to be r E a K.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: I don't think she wrote those.
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: No, she definitely didn't write those. One my niece was
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: two and a half at the time. She wasn't three. Like,
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: no parent is going to one get their child's age wrong.
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: And two even if she was two and a half.
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not a parent, but I would think
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: that a parent, if they were going to round their
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: child's age, they would round it down. Like she's not
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: gonna say her two and a half year old daughter
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: is three years old.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: She would just say that she's two years old.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: I was just thinking the same thing. I was just
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: thinking the same thing. I would have rounded down.
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, not even makes any sense. And that was the
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: thing too, is when we got that message. So that
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: message that says she was in Fresno went to her roommate.
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: And that's another reason why this had to be someone
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: who knows Nikki, because how do they know who to text?
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: How do they know how to get into her Facebook?
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: Like if it was just a random like a random attack,
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: they're not going to get into our Facebook and start
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: texting people Like that doesn't make any sense.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: She did not write that, Contessa, She did not write that.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: And you know what, I had something wrong. It's a
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: two hour commute each way. I had two hours in
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: my head thinking it was back and forth. She commuted
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: two hours each way. Yeah, for her job at best
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: Buy to support Arianna. Yeah, so what are the police
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: telling you? Now?
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: As far as I know, the people of interest are
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: still the same people of interest, Which are you know,
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: the people who babysat Ariana, which as Helena Hearn and
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: her sister Coolo Hearn and Helena's husband Devin Last. I
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: know last I knew that those are still the people
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: of interest. I don't know if there's been any more progression.
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: You know, it's really frustrating that whoever has done this,
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: you know, are still free. You know, my sister, my
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: sister deserves some justice and my sister deserves to have
• 40:09
  Speaker 5: her daughter back home.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: Right out to Dave mac joining US Crime Stories investigative
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: reporter in a press or, Police named three persons of interest,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: Helena and Devon Martin and Coolo Hearn. Are they the babysitters? Correct?
• 40:27
  Speaker 13: Clo Hearn and Helena Martin, They were the babysitters, but
• 40:32
  Speaker 13: also Helena Martin's husband, Devin was also in the same
• 40:35
  Speaker 13: facility apartment and was taking care as well.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: Ms Fitz, did any of the poise persons of interest
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: speak to you about what happened? No, to Brian Fitzgibbons,
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: USPA Nationwide Security. We have been told that the plywood
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: used to cover up the body of Nicole Fitz was
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: brought to the location by the killer. I find that
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: really odd.
• 41:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that was an interesting detail in this investigation, Nancy,
• 41:11
  Speaker 6: is that you know, very often you'll find plywood like
• 41:17
  Speaker 6: this or any items being used to cover up a
• 41:19
  Speaker 6: body are there by opportunity that the killer is using
• 41:24
  Speaker 6: something that's already in that environment where the body is
• 41:28
  Speaker 6: being placed. Now, for this plywood to have been moved there,
• 41:33
  Speaker 6: it screams out, what evidence is it that it was
• 41:37
  Speaker 6: brought there? Is there DNA that's been uncovered? Was there
• 41:42
  Speaker 6: some kind of sales tag, you know, a QR code
• 41:45
  Speaker 6: or something on the back of the plywood that they
• 41:48
  Speaker 6: were able to determine where it was purchased. That's certainly
• 41:52
  Speaker 6: a perplexing piece around the location where Nicole Fitz's body
• 41:57
  Speaker 6: was discovered.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: Doctor John Delatory, joint US renownedd psychologists, Daughter Delatory. There
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: is speculation, a lot of it that whoever took baby
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: Ariana wanted a child of their own. What do you
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: make of that?
• 42:15
  Speaker 12: It's not uncommon, you know, and I think that's one
• 42:17
  Speaker 12: of the interesting elements associated with this investigation. Oftentimes, individuals
• 42:22
  Speaker 12: who would do this, and it's often another woman that
• 42:24
  Speaker 12: would engage in this behavior. Usually those individuals have either
• 42:28
  Speaker 12: suffered a loss or they have been experiencing a tremendous
• 42:31
  Speaker 12: amount of stressors related to having a child and that
• 42:36
  Speaker 12: has overcome their ability to make rational decisions. So it
• 42:39
  Speaker 12: should be relatively easy from a psychological standpoint to take
• 42:43
  Speaker 12: a look at the women that are involved in this
• 42:45
  Speaker 12: case to try to figure out which one would actually
• 42:48
  Speaker 12: be suffering from the kinds of things necessary to number one,
• 42:52
  Speaker 12: take the child and number two actually kill the mother
• 42:55
  Speaker 12: and then put her in a park and just cover
• 42:58
  Speaker 12: her up with some kind of plywood. So there are
• 43:00
  Speaker 12: a lot of things that you could do psychologically to
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  Speaker 12: try to understand who would be engaging in this kind
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  Speaker 12: of behavior.
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  Speaker 1: And also, Dave Matt, isn't it true that we have
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  Speaker 1: learned very often when she would go try to pick
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  Speaker 1: up the baby, the babysitters would not hand the baby
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  Speaker 1: over to her mother. Nicole.
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  Speaker 13: Yes, that's exactly right, Nancy. You know, the babysitters oftentimes
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  Speaker 13: would keep Ariana overnight because of as you mentioned, Nikki
• 43:29
  Speaker 13: had a two hour commute back and forth to work,
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  Speaker 13: you know, each way, and so sometimes it was very
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  Speaker 13: late at night when she would have gotten off and
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  Speaker 13: been able to get there to get Arianna. So Arianna
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  Speaker 13: would spend the night. This happened for a while because
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  Speaker 13: well they were trying to help supposedly, but as it
• 43:45
  Speaker 13: came up or Nicki had found another roommate who she
• 43:48
  Speaker 13: worked with at Best Buy, who opened her home to her.
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  Speaker 13: That's when Nicki told the babysitters, I'm not going to
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  Speaker 13: need you more anymore after April first, and as of
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  Speaker 13: April second, you know, I've got this is all covered.
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  Speaker 13: That's when Nikki went to go get Ariana and they
• 44:04
  Speaker 13: flat out refused to even let her see Arianna.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: If you know or think you know anything about the
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: disappearance of little Arianna and the murder of her mother, Nicole,
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  Speaker 1: please dial four one five five seven five four four
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  Speaker 1: four four repeat four one five five seven five four
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  Speaker 1: four four four. There is a quarter million dollar reward
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  Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty thousand dollars reward for information leading
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  Speaker 1: to the whereabouts of this little girl, Arianna Fits And
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  Speaker 1: now we remember an American hero, Deputy Sheriff Michael Jefferson,
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  Speaker 1: Jackson County Sheriff's, Mississippi, shot in the line of duty
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  Speaker 1: after sixteen years on the force, leaving behind a wife
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  Speaker 1: turned widow, Sheila, and two little children. American hero Deputy
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  Speaker 1: Sheriff Michael Jamerson. Thank you to our guest, but especially
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  Speaker 1: to you for joining us tonight and keeping the search
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  Speaker 1: for these beautiful missing children alive. Nancy Grace signing off,
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  Speaker 1: but I'll see you tomorrow night, and until then, good
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  Speaker 1: night friend,