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Texas-Ohio State Preview, LSU Leaves Pros off Roster, NFL Season Predictions · The Craig Way Show

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  Speaker 1: Wednesday and getting over the hump, right? Hopefully we can
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  Speaker 2: Welcome.
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  Speaker 1: My name is Craig White. Thanks so much for joining us.
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  Speaker 1: As I always say, if Wednesday is truly your hump day,
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  Speaker 1: hopefully we help you get over the hill and on
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  Speaker 1: the downhill run to the weekend.
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  Speaker 1: good start and for those of you that Wednesday is
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  Speaker 1: good for you I hope you enjoy your next two
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  Speaker 1: days on today's program it heavily weighted as you might
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  Speaker 1: imagine college football pro football it's opening night in the
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  Speaker 1: National Football League it's weird to say that about a
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  Speaker 1: Wednesday isn't it but it is With a Super Bowl rematch,
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  Speaker 1: the defending Super Bowl champion Seattle Seahawks will take on
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  Speaker 1: the New England Patriots.
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  Speaker 2: We'll talk a little bit about that.
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  Speaker 1: Also, we'll take a look around at some other topics
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  Speaker 1: in the NFL. We're going to hear from Brian Schottenheimer,
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  Speaker 1: the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys, his thoughts on
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  Speaker 1: his team as they get ready to debut the 2026
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  Speaker 1: NFL season on Sunday night against the New York Giants.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll hear from Shadi coming up on that. College football,
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  Speaker 1: there's plenty to discuss. First of all, from the national perspective,
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  Speaker 1: all the stuff about LSU taking the latest turns that
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  Speaker 1: it's taken and some interesting rhetoric that's gone down there. Also,
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  Speaker 1: we kind of have some clarification. To some, it might
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  Speaker 1: sound as clear as mud, but there is some NCAA-released
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  Speaker 1: clarification material on clocks now in the aftermath of Michigan,
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  Speaker 1: Western Michigan, last Saturday night and how maybe this thing
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  Speaker 1: will be adjudicated properly going forward. And then of course,
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  Speaker 1: there's this matchup on Saturday night here in town as
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  Speaker 1: the fourth ranked Longhorns will play a number three in
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  Speaker 1: the coaches poll.
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  Speaker 2: Number four in the AP will play host.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody's number one, number one across the board, the Ohio
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  Speaker 1: state Buckeyes. And, We'll hear from Lance Jackson, the Longhorn
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  Speaker 1: sophomore defensive end.
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  Speaker 2: We'll hear from him.
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  Speaker 1: But also, from the Buckeye perspective, coming up in the
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  Speaker 1: 3 o'clock hour, we'll visit with Paul Keels, the play-by-play
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  Speaker 1: voice of the Ohio State Buckeyes.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll get his thoughts on this matchup.
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  Speaker 1: Paul and I have known each other a long time
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  Speaker 1: and popped on each other's shows and all that other
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  Speaker 1: kind of stuff. And so it's always good to visit
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  Speaker 1: with him. In fact, the two of us appeared simultaneously
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  Speaker 1: on a national podcast on Monday night to talk about
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  Speaker 1: this matchup. So Paul Kiels will join us in the
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  Speaker 1: We're more than happy to do that. Jake Herman is
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  Speaker 1: our producer today. I did watch a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: your Washington Nationals last night and saw them blow their 38th.
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  Speaker 3: I had a front row seat to it on the radio, Craig,
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  Speaker 3: after I was driving home from a five-set thriller of
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  Speaker 3: a volleyball match I called over at Bastrop where the
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  Speaker 3: Anderson Trojans pulled off a reverse sweep, got a win there.
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  Speaker 3: That brought me to the front seat of the car
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  Speaker 3: for a spot just in time in the front row
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  Speaker 3: to hear the great but dejected Dave Jagler on the
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  Speaker 3: call for the Nationals radio network. Well, they wanted him
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  Speaker 3: to get through the eighth, but he's going to leave
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  Speaker 3: without recording a single out.
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  Speaker 4: And I thought, is this really happening tonight?
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  Speaker 2: Unbelievable.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Manny Machado did the damage.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he did. He had a big hit. They were down.
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  Speaker 1: The Nationals had a 4-1 lead. And the Padres scored
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  Speaker 1: four in the bottom of the eighth and won 5-4.
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  Speaker 3: I follow this team pretty well. They're bringing guys out
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  Speaker 3: of the bullpen that I don't know. got call-ups right
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  Speaker 3: and to their credit they're not letting the same guys
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  Speaker 3: go out there and fail over and over again but
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  Speaker 3: my gosh craig.
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  Speaker 1: They're spreading the lack of wealth yeah in other words.
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  Speaker 3: They've got a guy like tolman's got the ninth now
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  Speaker 3: it's it's his ninth inning he he's only been.
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  Speaker 1: On the team like a month yeah so i you
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  Speaker 1: know i i call a little bit of that when
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  Speaker 1: i was flipping back and forth between that and and
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  Speaker 1: then uh the dodgers game um And, uh, this is
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  Speaker 1: going to be some really interesting races on that. And
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  Speaker 1: we mentioned the Padres. They are like a half game
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  Speaker 1: back of the diamond backs as they fight for that, uh,
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  Speaker 1: third and final wild card spot in the national league,
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  Speaker 1: the Brewers ninth inning rally or eighth inning rally that
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  Speaker 1: ended with the Jackson Cheerio home run. They rallied to
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  Speaker 1: beat the Cubs again. They're closing in. They're the first
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  Speaker 1: team to get to 90 wins and they're closing in on, uh,
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  Speaker 1: clinching that division. And, uh, They're still up a game
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  Speaker 1: and a half on Los Angeles for the top seed
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  Speaker 1: in the National League. And I was thinking about something,
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  Speaker 1: and sure enough, on the Dodger telecast, Joe Davis brought
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  Speaker 1: it up. If you're in the National League, in the
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  Speaker 1: National League, do you really want to be the one
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  Speaker 1: seed or do you want to be the two seed?
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  Speaker 1: Think about what the matchup could be. Right now, if
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  Speaker 1: the season ended today, the one seed, which would get
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  Speaker 1: a bye, would play the wild card winner, the four
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  Speaker 1: versus five. And right now, that'd be the Phillies versus
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  Speaker 1: the Cubs. If you're the two seed, you're playing the
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  Speaker 1: winner of the three versus six. Now, while it's not
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  Speaker 1: a guaranteed bargain, right now that would be the Braves against.
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  Speaker 2: Either the Diamondbacks or the Padres.
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  Speaker 1: Now, would you rather face the Braves, Diamondbacks, or Padres,
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  Speaker 1: or would you rather face the Phillies or Cubs?
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  Speaker 4: I'll take the.
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  Speaker 3: Braves, Diamondbacks, or Padres. The Braves made their hay early
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  Speaker 3: on in the season. The Cubs offense right now has
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  Speaker 3: been on another level. I mean, PCA might, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: he's the MVP probably. So I don't want to see that.
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  Speaker 2: He is. He's going to be the MVP.
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  Speaker 3: And the Phillies, those frontline starters in a best-of-five series, no,
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  Speaker 3: I want Atlanta or the other winner.
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  Speaker 1: And meanwhile, the Phillies have been only able to make
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  Speaker 1: nominal progress in trying to catch Atlanta in the National
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  Speaker 1: League East.
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  Speaker 2: Because both teams have stumbled.
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  Speaker 1: The Phillies got beat by the Astros last night, who
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  Speaker 1: are trying to hold off the Rangers in the American
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  Speaker 1: League West, and still up two games on Texas, and
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  Speaker 1: the Rangers got a win up in Seattle last night.
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  Speaker 2: So those two continue.
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  Speaker 1: Their fight, even though they, you know, just barely hovering
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  Speaker 1: around above or beneath the 500 mark. Again, I've been
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  Speaker 1: saying it for the past two months, this really and
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  Speaker 1: truly could be the year that we see a division
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  Speaker 1: winner with a sub-500 record. We've seen it in the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: The Seahawks had it at 7-9. I think the Saints
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  Speaker 1: had it once at 7-9.
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  Speaker 3: Washington football team, I think, had it in that shortened season.
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  Speaker 3: The Taylor Heineke team.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But in Major League Baseball, we've not seen that, even
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  Speaker 1: with the expansion of the playoffs, even with expansion of teams,
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  Speaker 1: even with expansion... of the divisional alignment. We've not seen
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  Speaker 1: a sub-500 team win a division. In fact, we've not
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  Speaker 1: seen a sub-500 team make the playoffs. Now, we've seen
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  Speaker 1: teams that were 82-80 win the whole thing. The Cardinals
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  Speaker 1: did that in 06. The Mets, who had one less
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  Speaker 1: game that had gotten rained out, went 82-79 and got
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  Speaker 1: to game seven of the World Series against the defending
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  Speaker 1: world champion Oakland A's.
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  Speaker 2: In 1973 and then lost to the A's. So....
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  Speaker 4: They passed the Nats last night, by the way.
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  Speaker 2: The Mets did?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, depressingly so.
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  Speaker 2: They put the Nats into the basement now?
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  Speaker 4: Back in the basement they go.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So I do think we're going to see some really
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  Speaker 1: spirited battles down the stretch. Probably, to me, the most
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  Speaker 1: fascinating is going to be the American League West.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you got a good matchup tonight.
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  Speaker 3: Hunter Brown versus Christopher Sanchez, two of my favorite pitchers
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  Speaker 3: to watch.
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  Speaker 2: That's Phillies-Astros that's going on.
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  Speaker 1: The Rangers continue that series, which if they, I think
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  Speaker 1: if the Rangers win another game there in Seattle, it
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  Speaker 1: pretty much puts the Mariners on the shelf for trying
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  Speaker 1: to be the wild card. Because that's the other fascinating
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  Speaker 1: thing out of this, and that is, the race to
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  Speaker 1: be that third wild card in the American League. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if you guys have looked at it, and
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  Speaker 1: the Rangers are right there in the thick of the fight,
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  Speaker 1: but in case you haven't seen it, the chase for
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  Speaker 1: that third wild card spot right now has Cleveland holding
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  Speaker 1: a one-game lead on Toronto. Remember the Blue Jays who
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  Speaker 1: came within a whisker, an eyelash? on multiple occasions in
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  Speaker 1: Game 7 of winning the World Series. In fact, they
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  Speaker 1: were up three games to two, lost Game 6 at
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  Speaker 1: home to the Dodgers, and in Game 7, probably should
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  Speaker 1: have won it. Had reasonable opportunities there. There was a
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  Speaker 1: big play made by Miguel Rojas to get a forced
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  Speaker 1: play at the plate, and then Rojas hits the game-tying homer,
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  Speaker 1: and then you have that crazy collision out in left field.
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  Speaker 1: The catch, they gave away a bobblehead the other night
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  Speaker 1: at Dodger Stadium for the catch with That's awesome. Where
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  Speaker 1: you had Andy Pius and Quique Hernandez colliding with one another.
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  Speaker 2: And, you know, you had that.
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  Speaker 1: And then, of course, it took the Will Smith home
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  Speaker 1: run in the 10th or the 11th to get them
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  Speaker 1: in position to win it. The Blue Jays were that
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  Speaker 1: close to winning the World Series. And then they started
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  Speaker 1: off dreadfully. And they had a lot of guys injured.
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  Speaker 1: But they were really, really down. And now of late,
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  Speaker 1: they've been good. They've won seven of their last 10.
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  Speaker 1: And now Toronto is just one game back of the
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  Speaker 1: guardians for the third wildcard spot. The Rangers are only
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  Speaker 1: game and a half off the pace. And then you
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  Speaker 1: have Baltimore at four back Minnesota at four and a half.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that's about it because Seattle six and
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  Speaker 1: a half back, if they lose again to the Rangers,
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  Speaker 1: I think that puts them away. And Detroit has really
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  Speaker 1: fallen off of late to both of those teams. Seattle
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  Speaker 1: and Detroit who, uh, of course had that memorable playoff
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  Speaker 1: series a year ago are, uh, are now seven and, um,
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  Speaker 1: six and a half and seven and a half back.
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  Speaker 2: And they both dropped seven of their last 10 games.
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  Speaker 3: The blue Jays are just piecing this thing together. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: they've got a 24 year old rookie who plays center field,
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  Speaker 3: Brett Bateman.
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  Speaker 4: He's been leading off for them the last few days.
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  Speaker 3: And then their number two guy is Charles McAdoo, who
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  Speaker 3: I think Cameron Parker called his games four or five
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  Speaker 3: years ago up in the, in the league he was
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  Speaker 3: working for in South Dakota.
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  Speaker 2: That's right. In that wood bat league. That's right.
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  Speaker 3: So they've got two guys that are relatively anonymous and,
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  Speaker 3: at the top of their lineup, Vladdy's OPS is under 700.
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  Speaker 3: They completely snatched defeat from the jaws of victory two
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  Speaker 3: nights ago in Sacramento.
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  Speaker 4: And yet here they are still knocking on the door.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Only one game back.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, and, and I should point out, uh, in terms
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  Speaker 1: of the division leaders, and we're going to visit with
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  Speaker 1: Gene Watson before the week is out as well. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: his team, the Chicago White Sox, uh, which has been
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  Speaker 1: the story of the year, I think from a team perspective,
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  Speaker 1: a major league baseball, two years removed from 121 losses.
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  Speaker 2: And then, uh, Another huge.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, them and the Rays.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: The White Sox continue to lead, but the lead on
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  Speaker 1: the Guardians is down to two. So Cleveland is sandwiched
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  Speaker 1: in between two out of first place in the division,
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  Speaker 1: but only one ahead of Toronto for the third wildcard spot.
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  Speaker 3: And they haven't gotten much from Jose Ramirez this year.
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  Speaker 3: He has not been the same player with the hand-made
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  Speaker 3: bone injury. The power swing has not been there consistently.
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  Speaker 3: So it's a real testament to Cleveland.
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  Speaker 2: Also.
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  Speaker 1: in case you didn't know, Aaron Judge is back. He
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  Speaker 1: was back in the lineup, although what Aaron Boone pulled
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  Speaker 1: him from the lineup pulled him from the game in
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  Speaker 1: the sixth inning right i saw that he wasn't happy
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  Speaker 1: about it uh yeah but he's but it wasn't disciplinary
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  Speaker 1: it was just you know being cautious with regard to
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  Speaker 1: that so the yankees are four back right now and
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  Speaker 1: they would hold the number one wild card spot the
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  Speaker 1: fourth seed boston would be the five so you imagine
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  Speaker 1: that for a wild card series yankees red sox well.
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  Speaker 3: Could be a repeat of last year does uh does
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  Speaker 3: cam schlittler get redemption his counterpart who he lost that
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  Speaker 3: game to connelly early is now a national Yeah, that's.
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  Speaker 2: That's very true.
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  Speaker 1: And then, like I said, the Rangers are two back
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  Speaker 1: of Houston and Seattle Seminole to pay.
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  Speaker 2: So they're fading away.
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  Speaker 1: So now it looks like it's going to be a
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  Speaker 1: two team race in the West Astros and Rangers. And
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  Speaker 1: in the national league, I mentioned the Phillies are four
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  Speaker 1: back of Atlanta, but they're only, they've only won six
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  Speaker 1: of their last 10 while the Braves are five and five.
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  Speaker 1: So they've only been able to make nominal progress. However,
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  Speaker 1: They got another series with the Braves coming up. They
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  Speaker 1: just came off splitting the four games. They got three
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  Speaker 1: more with Atlanta coming up.
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  Speaker 3: Craig, and the Braves have a guy back by the
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  Speaker 3: name of Ronald Acuna Jr., who's been in and out
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  Speaker 3: of the lineup all season long. But when he has played,
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  Speaker 3: he has played like an MVP.
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  Speaker 1: Brewers closing in on clinching the Central and the Dodgers,
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  Speaker 1: likewise in the West. I think L.A. 's magic number
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  Speaker 1: is seven. for clenching the West. Dave Roberts was asked
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  Speaker 1: last night, what do you think about it? How do
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  Speaker 1: you feel about that? You're seven back.
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  Speaker 2: He goes, good.
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  Speaker 1: I want to be six. I want the magic number
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  Speaker 1: to be six. He wants to get a step closer
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  Speaker 1: to that. And it's more of an emphasis, I think,
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  Speaker 1: this year than I've ever heard the Dodgers talk about
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  Speaker 1: getting a bye. And that's because of the slew of
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  Speaker 1: injuries they've had to their pitching. Shohei Otani pretty much
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  Speaker 1: admitted yesterday he's not going to pitch again this year.
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  Speaker 1: He's just trying to get himself healthy to help the
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  Speaker 1: team with the bat. But their starting pitching doesn't really
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  Speaker 1: need it if it if it performs like it started
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  Speaker 1: to now Tarek Skubal had easily his best game as
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  Speaker 1: a Dodger last night pitched into the eighth inning and
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  Speaker 1: got the win for them over Cincinnati uh Tyler Glass
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  Speaker 1: now has been good um uh Blake Snell has been
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  Speaker 1: good and then of course oh yeah you got that
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  Speaker 1: other guy he's going tonight Yamamoto.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah I listened to the end of that game last
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  Speaker 3: night and the Dodger broadcast was still talking about that
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  Speaker 3: De La Cruz homer into the eighth the only blemish
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  Speaker 3: for Skubal.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah the You know, you can pull that up. Go
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  Speaker 1: ahead and Google search that thing. They said it was
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  Speaker 1: 444 feet. I thought it went farther because it seemed
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: to go through the stands to the concourse.
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: Can you imagine somebody standing in line to.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: Buy a Dodger dog and a cold malted beverage and
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden the ball.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: Just skips up beside them?
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: As I think it was Oral Hershiser said on the telecast,
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: there was a fan who got a souvenir who wasn't
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: planning on it. it came skipping through last night on
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: that long home run from LA Dela Cruz, who has
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: been great of late for the reds. He he's been a,
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: he's been a problem and for opposing teams. And he
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: said home runs against LA pitching the last two nights.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: It hasn't helped them ultimately because the rest of their
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: lineup has been there. The reds, uh, their, their big
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: thing is home runs. And then otherwise they're striking out
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: a lot. So, uh, that's, you know, that's, It has
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: not worked so well for them in this series, so
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: we'll see how it.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: Goes from there.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: All right, coming up, I wanted to clear the deck
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: off of that. We're going to come back and talk
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: some football. We'll hear from Lance Jackson. We'll also hear
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: from Brian Schottenheimer. We do have Inconceivable this hour. And
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: then next hour, Paul Keels, play-by-play voice of the Ohio
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: State Buckeyes, joins us, among others. All right, we'll continue
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: right here on a Yacht Rock Wednesday on Sports Radio
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: AM 13 Under the Zone and the iHeartRadio app. It's
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: a Yacht Rock Wednesday here on Sports Radio AM 13
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: under the zone. This is another one of the examples
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: of those songs that kind of predates what supposedly is
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: the chronological timeline of Yacht Rock's rise, late 70s to mid-80s.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: This precedes it by a few years in the earlier
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: 70s as Shy Lights. With O'Girl, my broadcast partner on
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: Longhorn Basketball, Eddie Orton, big.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: Fan of the Shy Lights.
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: I've never heard of the Shy Lights.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: We've played another one of their bigger hits before, too,
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: on this program. You know who did a really good
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: cover of this? And you could hear it if you
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: listened to it. Hall & Oates.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: They did a good cover of O'Girl. But that's the
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: original there by the Shy Lights. The other big hit
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: they have is Have You Seen Her? That's one we've
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: bounced back with before. Let's bounce back with some Longhorns sound.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: Getting you ready for this matchup between the Longhorns and
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: the Buckeyes. Lance Jackson, the Longhorns' sophomore defensive end. Yes,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: a sophomore. But promising as a freshman, and he believes
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: that the growth has been there for him. going into
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: and now inclusive of one game in a sophomore campaign?
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: Definitely way bigger this year because I feel like I
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: got to do more. Last year, kind of just going
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: out there, having fun, kind of on the side a
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: little bit, get a little bit of action. But this year,
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: got to play all four quarters. It's going to be
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: a really good game and I'm ready for it.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: I think everybody is expecting this to be a really
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: good game, obviously. I think what I usually don't pay
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: that much to the to the.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: To gambling lines. But what is it? It's like a
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: point and a half or something like that.
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: The degenerate gambling lines.
• 19:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: That's the way you always say it.
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: It doesn't take a degenerate.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: The degenerates, if you're not doing the people.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: Degenerate gambling line is like a women's tennis match in
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: China on a Tuesday night.
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: This is just people are curious. Who's the favorite, right?
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right. Yeah.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Some people are curious. Others are more than just curious.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: They might have a.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: they might have an invested interest in the game as well.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: The odds makers like the Longhorns by a one and
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: a half point spread.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I thought.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: So, you know, so it's, you know, a point and
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: a half is where it is right now. And as
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: a result of that, I really threw you off with that,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: didn't I? Well, the degenerate thing, huh?
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: I just, you know, I know people that are going
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: to be wagering on this game that are not degenerates.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: I also know some degenerates.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: There you go. What is it?
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: The line that Bill Shoning used to use when he
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: would go to the OTB, the off-track betting thing, and
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: he called one of his friends, and he goes, man,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: I was in this off-track betting thing. There's a bunch
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: of lowlifes and derelicts in there or something. And he
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: called a friend of his, and to ask about a
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: certain horse. And the friend said, well, where are you?
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: And he said, I'm at the off track, I'm at
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: the OTB at some place like in Wilmington, Delaware. And
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: the guy goes, with the lowlifes and the derelicts? He said, yeah, yeah,
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: that's where I am. So I'm not saying everybody is
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: a low life or a derelict or, you know, uh,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: degenerate or whatever. Uh, but, but it is kind of funny.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: One thing I never miss is I tried never to
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: miss a bad beat.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Scott van pub because it's just sheer comedy. Play the
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: fight song.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: And if you are wagering on things like first half
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: point totals of an FCS game, you have become a
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: lowlife or a derelict or something like that.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: I saw a great tweet referencing bad beats. They always say, hey,
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: that team such and such signed up for 60. I
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: saw a tweet, Western Michigan signed up for 60-00. You
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: feel sorry for them.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: And like I said, we've got some things about that
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: to talk about. But anyway, Lance Jackson was asked, you know,
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: as big a game as this is, coaches always like
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: to say it has to be just another game. So
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: he was asked, can it be treated as just another game?
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like it's definitely just like another game.
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: There may be tweaks in your game plan, but it
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: definitely is just another game. I mean, we're going to
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: prepare just like we did last week for Texas State.
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: We don't kind of, like I said, there's more on
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: the game plan, but you kind of just treat it
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: like last week. I mean, we're going to treat this
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: week like next week and the next week after that.
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: I feel like you don't really look at a team
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: and be like, oh, I may practice harder this week
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: or I'm going to go a little bit harder this
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: week because I'm playing Ohio State.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Every week, you've got to come with it.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: A lot has already been made and will continue to
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: be made of Hiro Kanu going up against his former team.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: He was on the team two years ago that beat
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Texas in the Cotton Bowl in the college football playoff semifinals. Obviously,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: he played for Texas in the season opener in Columbus
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: last week. And Hiro has been saying, look, and we
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: had some of the sound of that. He said, I'm not.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: I'm not overhyping this thing. It's about business, that sort
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: of stuff. But all the other teammates were asked, including
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Lance Jackson, you know, how big this is and what
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: this week might be like for Hiro Kanu.
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he's friends with a bunch of them over there, but,
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: I mean, he kind of just says this week, I mean,
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: it's not about friendship.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: He wants to beat them bad.
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: He didn't get to beat them last year, so I
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: feel like it's going to be really special for him
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: for us to be able to beat them this year.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: And then one more from Lance Jackson this hour. We'll
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: hear more coming up next hour about the emphasis on
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: the film study and exactly... what the things that the
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Buckeyes have shown to this point.
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: Really just, I mean, film studies really just, I mean,
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: watching the tight ends, watching the tackles, trying to pick
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: up keys, watching the quarterback, how far he drops back,
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: how the tackles kick set, really just focusing on the
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: small details.
• 24:10
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: All right. We'll hear some more from him next hour.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: A couple of things from Brian Schottenheimer before we break,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: before Inconceivable. The Cowboys, like every other NFL team, has
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: a depth chart out there. And their depth chart on
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: the defensive side has a couple of either-ors. At one corner,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: both Kobe Durant and Siobhan Ravel are mentioned.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: And on the other, Malik Hooker and P.J.
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: Locke.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: Whereas Caleb Downs, the rookie, is listed as a starter
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: as DB. Two corners, DB, the two safeties, and the
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: 4-2-5 alignment for the Cowboys. So Schottenheimer was asked, you know,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: what's the designation or explanation for the either or on
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: that safety spot?
• 24:54
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: So, well, number one, I'm going to start a little
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: different way.
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: We really feel like we've got three or four safeties
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: that are starters in the National Football League. You know,
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: you know, I'll start that way. PJ and Malik, we
• 25:05
  Speaker 6: feel are starters. JT is a starter. Caleb Downs is
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: listed as a DB.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: That's cool. you know, like it's what he is. He's
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: a DB.
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: So nickel and safety and all that stuff. But, um,
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: you know, both those guys have tremendous value.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about Malik and PJ. They're both veterans.
• 25:20
  Speaker 6: They both, um, have, you know, system experience, you know, in,
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: in similar systems like this. And, um, it's the strength
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: of our, of our defense and reality. When you look
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: at the bodies we have back there, but the org
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: just means that a, by game plan, we'll do some
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: things different. It's no different. Kobe Durant or Von rebel. So,
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: It gives us flexibility, and it's not gamesmanship right now.
• 25:44
  Speaker 6: That's truly how we feel about our guys is that
• 25:46
  Speaker 6: we've got good players that can do different things at
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: different times for different reasons.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: All right, he was also asked about that addition on
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: the offensive front of Broderick Jones about Terrence Steele and
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: how Steele has responded since Jones has been added.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Hasn't changed at all from his work ethic, his mindset.
• 26:01
  Speaker 6: He'll be the first scout to practice today, I'm sure,
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: going through his pre-practice routine. Again, Todd, all I can
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: say is he's done a really good job with the
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: reps that we've had. I was not surprised when I
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: called him and informed him of what we were doing
• 26:19
  Speaker 6: that he didn't hesitate. He understands the business. He's been
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: around a long time, and I think he's stacking really
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: good days. We expect him to go into this game
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: playing well, but at the same time, Broderick's just absolutely
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: diving into the playbook and all the different things.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: That we're doing, which is good.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: We'll hear some more from Brian Schottenheimer in the 3
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: o'clock hour and the 4 o'clock hour. Up next, it's
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: inconceivable here on a Yacht Rock Wednesday on Sports Radio
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: AM 13 under the zone in the iHeartRadio app. Second
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: hour of the program here on Sports Radio AM 1300
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: The Zone. Craig Way alongside the producer, Jake Herman. Coming
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: up in a few minutes, we'll talk about the Ohio
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: State Buckeyes with the play-by-play voice.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: Of the Buckeyes, Paul Keels. He'll join us in just
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: a few moments.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: I want to get to a couple of the last
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: 24-hour stuff that's happened with college football. Yesterday, we talked
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: about the fact that the college football playoff committee has
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: opened up the exclusive negotiating window for ESPN because they
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: get a 30-day window. to hold down as exclusive rights
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: holder to the college football playoff if indeed they do
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: expand to 24 teams. And it's looking more and more
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: likely because the SEC and the Big Ten may well
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: be finally getting on the same page on this thing
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: because it has to do with revenue streams coming in if,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: by virtue of having to have a 2014 playoff, that
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: means you have to eliminate conference championship games.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: So if that happens.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: How about that $ 100 million paycheck windfall the SEC gets,
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: you know, for having that conference championship? Well, that was
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: part of what, and there were also things about wanting
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: assurances from the Big Ten that its member schools would
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: play 10 power for opponents. In other words, play the
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: conference schedule and then play at least one more power
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: for opponent, which is in play today. now for the
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: sec with the nine game conference schedule and uh one
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: of their three non-conference opponents has to be a p4
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: a power four so that we talked about that yesterday
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: now today and this this actually came down pretty late
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: last night in fact i'm looking at max olson's dateline
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: piece it was at 10 30 last night and that
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: is uh you know we all remember what happened with
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: the uh Brendan Sworsby case with Texas Tech, and there
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: was lawsuits and threats of countersuits and all this other
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: kind of stuff, and then Texas Tech and Sworsby blinked
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: and backed down, and Sworsby went away. Well, apparently the
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: same thing has now happened with LSU. They are adding
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: two players to complete their 105-man roster. They went with
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: 103 last week, keeping Daquan Wright and Xavier Harris off
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: of the roster, and they apparently are going to keep
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: them off the roster. They're adding cornerback Aiden Anding and
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: Gabriel Relaford, two returning.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Players who are going to be in there.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: So that means then that LSU and Lane Kiffin are
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: moving on from their efforts to add Wright and Harris,
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: an issue that escalated into that significant legal battle between
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: the SEC and the school, appears to be cooling off now.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: Ryan Downton is an attorney who represents Wright and Harris.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: He told ESPN the players are still considering some legal
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: options as well. So that apparently has brought about a
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: back down, a stand down for LSU, that they're not
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: going to add that. Meanwhile, after all of that happened,
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: the latest of the Louisiana politicians to weigh in on
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: all of this was United States Senator John Kennedy. He
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: blasted the SEC over that threat that we heard yesterday
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: that they wanted an amendment, the SEC, to the lawsuit
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: with the vote coming up on Thursday from school presidents
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: on whether to consider the possibility of expelling LSU.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: From the conference.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: Now, I've not seen, and Jake, you tell me if
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: I've just missed it, I've not seen an announcement that
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: said that vote has now been canceled. I've not seen that,
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: but one would imagine that's going to be the case
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: since LSU is backing off of their efforts to bring
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: former NFL training camp guys back to their active roster.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, all I see on this is Dan Wetzel's piece
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: from less than an hour ago talking about now the
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: chances of LSU getting booted from the league are next
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: to zero.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: Right. So anyway, it's kind of funny hearing this coming
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: down as LSU and its legal representation within the state
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: of Louisiana has all had to back down. Well, politicians
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: don't like that. And Senator Kennedy said, and here's the quotes,
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: bone deep down to the marrow, stupid. I've got rocks
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: in my driveway that are smarter than that. They're not
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: going to throw LSU out of the SEC. Let me
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: tell you something. I and a lot of other people
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: in the United States Congress will be on them like
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: a hobo on a ham sandwich. LSU hasn't done anything wrong.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: It's called a court of law. God made courts to
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: decide disputes. Whether you agree with what LSU did or disagree,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: we did the right thing by.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: Going to court. We didn't just do stuff. We went
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: to court.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: We're going to abide by the court's decision, but they're
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: not going to start all this stuff.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: Well, now they've backed down.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: He also said that it was just Absolutely ridiculous that
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: they were going to do this. But the federal court
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: hearing for the lawsuit for LSU that was scheduled for
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: today has been postponed to a later date.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: That has not yet been set. So it appears like.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: The brinksmanship that happened, the Cuban missile crisis of college
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: football with who blinks, who stares down, who and who
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: steps down, it looks like in this case, LSU becomes
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: the Soviet Union. They back down off of that and
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: remove the missiles from Cuba. So that's one way that
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: you could say. So anyway, that's happened. Now, there's one
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: other thing that's happened. The NCAA has now established new protocols,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: new guidance to, as they say, quote, to establish a
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: standard timing protocol that ensures consistency in the administration of
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: all college football games. So here's what this memorandum said
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: from the national coordinator of officials, Ron Snodgrass, and was
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: approved by the NCAA's secretary rules editor, Matt Young. Quote,
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: the official time for all college football games is the
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: time displayed on the in-stadium game clock. When a replay
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: review requires time to be restored or otherwise adjusted, the
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: replay official's decision will be based on the embedded game
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: clock contained within the program feed. If the broadcaster is
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: unable to provide an embedded game clock, the replay official
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: will use the game clock graphic displayed as part of
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: the broadcast feed. This timing protocol should be followed consistently
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: at all institutions and game sites.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: So what about what happened in Ann Arbor? They didn't
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: follow that. That's why they did this now, to make
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: sure everybody follows it from now on.
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: So that's the change.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: That's the change.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: So that we don't have what happened the other night.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: So that's the latest off of that. All right, before
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: we get to the break, a couple of things to
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: hear from Lance Jackson, the Longhorn sophomore defensive end. He
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: was asked how difficult is it to be able to
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: defend Julian saying how tough is he going to be?
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: Just how calm he is in the pocket. He's super accurate.
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: He has legs, but he doesn't have to use them
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: a lot. So I feel like one of the main
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: things is just us trying to make him use his legs,
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: make him get out of the pocket, make him feel flustered,
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: things like that. Just make him not feel comfortable in
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: the pocket like he looks in most games.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Okay all right so then he was asked what can
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: ohio spit ohio state expect to see from the long
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: run defense.
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: Like i said in the last interview just a lot
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: coming at him i mean we're gonna try to come
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: at him a lot just try to be big up
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: front uh i feel like all of us up front
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: have to do better this week um gotta play big
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: um yeah.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: All right uh did they not show much on film
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: that Ohio state could pick up off of in that
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: whenever Texas state?
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: I thought we did, but we definitely got a lot
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: more in the package. I mean, um, yeah, I feel
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: like we should be more physical this week.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: All right. Is there a, a, a theme in the
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: preparation coming from the defensive coordinator, Will Muschamp?
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: I mean, coach Muschamp is going to be the same
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: every week. It's not really, like I said earlier, it's
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: not just because Ohio state, he's going to kind of
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: give us a different message. I mean, it's the same
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: message every week. Um, I mean, go hard, thud, obviously,
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: and make plays. Be fast and physical.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: Some have suggested maybe the Texas out for that R word, revenge.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: But most of the players, including Jackson, aren't really going
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: down that road.
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's not really like get your leg back. But,
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: I mean, we definitely want to go in and win
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: the game. But we're not– I mean, this is a
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: whole new year. We're not really thinking about last year.
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: We have a bunch of new players. They have new
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: guys too. So– We're not really thinking get your leg back,
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: but we're trying to go in and win the game
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: and win it pretty good.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: And one more from Lance Jackson.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: He was asked about the growth of this sophomore class,
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: of which he is a part, from last year to
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: this year.
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: I mean, last year we got to get our feet
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: a little wet, but this year it's like we're in it. So,
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: I mean, we just got to go, be ready to go.
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: And I feel like all of us have kind of
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: taken a big step this year, and I feel like
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: everybody's going to see that.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: All right, that's Lance Jackson, the Longhorn sophomore defensive end.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: All right, coming up, we'll take a closer look at
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: the Ohio State Buckeyes.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: We'll visit with my buddy, I started to say. That's
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: Paul Keels.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: We'll do that coming up next here on Sports Radio
• 37:00
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• 37:03
  Speaker 4: I went back.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: To Ohio.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: But my city was gone No, you did not stumble
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: onto a rerun of the Rush Limbaugh show from years
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: ago since that was his theme song. No, it's back
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: to Ohio. The great Chrissy Hine and the Pretenders because
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: we're going up to... Ohio, Columbus, Ohio, to visit with
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: our good friend, the play-by-play voice of the Buckeyes, Paul Kills.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: Did it have you thrown off a little bit there
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: when it was coming back there with some pretenders? Did
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: you think you'd stumbled on to, you might say, a
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: revamped edition of the Rush Limbaugh show or something?
• 37:50
  Speaker 7: I did think about it for a second, but I
• 37:52
  Speaker 7: trusted you had everything under control.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: How many decades, how many years overall now in the play-by-play?
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: This is season 29 for Ohio State. There you go.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: There you go. And before that, I remember, weren't you
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: the voice of the Cincinnati Bearcats? Yes.
• 38:08
  Speaker 7: That was like seven years over a 10-year period because
• 38:11
  Speaker 7: I think we came across one another at a basketball
• 38:14
  Speaker 7: game at the Alamodome, I believe.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: That's exactly right. Boy, now that would have been January 93, maybe.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: Sounds about right.
• 38:22
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. Okay. All right.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: Well, it's great to see you. It's great to be.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: And of course, I mentioned this earlier in the first
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: hour of the program that Paul and I did a
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: joint appearance on a network show the other night and
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: we went by and it was. It's kind of funny
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: because we wound up talking about a lot of other
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: things other than the football itself. But such is the
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: way of broadcasters. We're wanting to give that up. Let
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: me get your thoughts first of all. This was something
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: I was watching Ryan Day's press conference from yesterday. And
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: fascination is too strong a word. But there's the intrigue,
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: I think, on a lot of the media who are
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: there and certainly the media down here about– his coordinators,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: having that NFL influence, having Arthur Smith on the offense.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: We saw Matt Patricia last year. What's been your take
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: so far on that? Coach Day did say, look, in
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: the final analysis, this isn't the NFL or college players.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: He did make a point of saying that, but have
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: you been able to tell a nuanced difference or maybe
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: even beyond a nuanced difference in how the offense and
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: defense systems are run with two former NFL not only
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: coordinators but at one time head coaches well.
• 39:36
  Speaker 7: Offense not really not yet based on just one game
• 39:39
  Speaker 7: and Craig the thing about what Ryan Day has done
• 39:41
  Speaker 7: and his time as a head coach he's really grown
• 39:44
  Speaker 7: with making coaching decisions very early on he had to
• 39:48
  Speaker 7: make some tough choices about in one case, demoting a
• 39:50
  Speaker 7: defensive coordinator, and then moving on from other people, something
• 39:54
  Speaker 7: that his predecessor wasn't really good about doing. But when
• 39:58
  Speaker 7: these high-profile spots have been open the last few years,
• 40:01
  Speaker 7: he's been very deliberate.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: He's taken.
• 40:03
  Speaker 7: whatever he felt is the appropriate amount of time, not
• 40:06
  Speaker 7: rushed after the new hot target. And not so much
• 40:09
  Speaker 7: because they were NFL guys, but I think with both
• 40:12
  Speaker 7: Matt Patricia and Arthur Smith, they were guys that he
• 40:15
  Speaker 7: felt could come in and fit with what they wanted
• 40:18
  Speaker 7: to do. And people will talk about, well, really, Ryan
• 40:20
  Speaker 7: Day is the one calling the plays. It's the Ryan
• 40:22
  Speaker 7: Day offense. And Ryan Day will say, no, it's the
• 40:24
  Speaker 7: Ohio State offense. But he's got his fingerprints all over it.
• 40:27
  Speaker 7: With Matt Patricia, I think really what we saw last year,
• 40:31
  Speaker 7: It was a simplification because when Jim Knowles was here,
• 40:34
  Speaker 7: it was a little more complicated. And it took about
• 40:37
  Speaker 7: a year and a half of that really to take
• 40:38
  Speaker 7: hold of the players they had. So it's been interesting
• 40:42
  Speaker 7: to see. And I don't know, Craig, that it's had
• 40:43
  Speaker 7: a lot to do because of their NFL background. I
• 40:46
  Speaker 7: think it's just because of the way they fit with
• 40:48
  Speaker 7: what they've had to work with.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: Interesting.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: Well, they've obviously got a lot of very talented people
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: to work with. I know you've heard this, and I
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: think it was in the news conference as well. Certainly,
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: it's been talked about down here is the difference. And again,
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: only one game in the books for both of these
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: guys as the designated dyed-in-the-wool starter. But the difference for
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: Julian Say and the difference for Arch Manning, yeah, Arch
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: had to start a couple of games when Quinn Ewers
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: was banged up. But as the designated guy and the
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: tough lessons he had to learn along with his teammates
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: last year, And then somebody was saying, well, you know,
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: Julian made some really good progress over that. How do
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: you measure what you saw from him being thrust into
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: that situation last year to what you've seen so far,
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: even just with one game and the smaller sample size
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: to this point?
• 41:42
  Speaker 7: Well, I think, Craig, what we've seen with Julian through
• 41:45
  Speaker 7: last year and into now, they're willing to give him
• 41:47
  Speaker 7: a little more latitude. They're allowing him maybe to change
• 41:50
  Speaker 7: more stuff than what they did in the Texas game
• 41:53
  Speaker 7: last year. That was, you know, for both teams, really,
• 41:56
  Speaker 7: that was kind of, you know, first game, not knowing
• 41:58
  Speaker 7: what you had as far as an on-the-field capacity from people,
• 42:01
  Speaker 7: and just do what needed to be done to win
• 42:03
  Speaker 7: the game. I think I saw one of the writers said, hey,
• 42:06
  Speaker 7: if they can win the game 3-0, it's a win.
• 42:08
  Speaker 7: And that's kind of the way it was last year
• 42:10
  Speaker 7: at 14-7. You saw really where both defenses had a
• 42:13
  Speaker 7: big influence and all of that. What we saw last
• 42:15
  Speaker 7: Saturday was really kind of encapsulated what Julian Sane did
• 42:20
  Speaker 7: a lot of last year, but doing it as efficiently
• 42:22
  Speaker 7: as he did in game one was what really stood out.
• 42:25
  Speaker 7: You know, he's got the great wavelength with Jeremiah Smith
• 42:28
  Speaker 7: but you know getting Devin McCune involved Brandon Ennis is
• 42:31
  Speaker 7: kind of a known commodity there as well but just
• 42:34
  Speaker 7: to be as efficient as he was in game one
• 42:36
  Speaker 7: and really as he was all season last year was
• 42:38
  Speaker 7: kind of the big launching point as opposed to what
• 42:41
  Speaker 7: happened in that first game last year.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: I was kind of intrigued by something uh first of
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: all something you said when we were uh doing the
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: podcast the other night uh when you considered to one
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: of the key matchups to be the Ohio State offensive
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: front against the Texas uh front four, front seven, whatever,
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: in terms of the offensive line versus the defensive line,
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: that sort of thing. And then in the press conference,
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: Coach Day was asked in specific. He was asked about
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: Philip Daniels at right tackle. He was asked about Ian
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: Moore at left tackle. And what did he think about...
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: certain performances of certain guys in certain spots as well
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: did would you say if there was a specific question
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: mark to take a look at going into the season
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: maybe it was going to be that and have they
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: kind of answered at least with the early sample size
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: to this point.
• 43:32
  Speaker 7: No question and there was some good question coming out
• 43:34
  Speaker 7: of the ball state game philip daniels didn't have his
• 43:36
  Speaker 7: best game he wasn't awful but you know he wasn't
• 43:39
  Speaker 7: at the level that you would expect and A lot
• 43:41
  Speaker 7: of that ties into the fact that Austin Sarabelle has
• 43:43
  Speaker 7: been moved from tackle to guard. And also what they've
• 43:46
  Speaker 7: tried to do, Craig, is get guys to play multiple positions.
• 43:49
  Speaker 7: If you remember in the championship year when they lost
• 43:52
  Speaker 7: Seth McLaughlin at center, that's when they had to move
• 43:54
  Speaker 7: Carson Hinsman from guard back to center. So because of
• 43:57
  Speaker 7: some of those things, they've tried to be flexible with.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: All of that.
• 44:00
  Speaker 7: And really the bottom line is they knew that how
• 44:03
  Speaker 7: they played against Ball State was not how they're going
• 44:05
  Speaker 7: to have to play this weekend. So is it a concern?
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: Certainly. And it's more about because of the upgrade in
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: defense or what they're going to see. You brought up, uh,
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: the receiving core.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: You said, uh, Devin McCune and, and, uh, we got
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: a chance to see him obviously when he was playing, uh,
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: for a UTSA, uh, but all roads lead back obviously
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: to Jeremiah Smith. And, and another fascinating thing I think
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: that came from the news conference was they were, they
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: were asking coach day, um, How do you, I'm paraphrasing,
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: it's almost like, how do you make him the weapon
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: everybody knows he can be without forcing the issue?
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: That type of thing.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: And I thought Coach Day had some pretty good responses
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: on what he is, but what the other guys are
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: can make Smith all the more dangerous.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: No question.
• 44:52
  Speaker 7: And some of that, Craig, comes from the fact that,
• 44:54
  Speaker 7: if you remember in the Cotton Bowl game two years ago,
• 44:56
  Speaker 7: Jeremiah had just one catch. Last year, he had six catches,
• 44:59
  Speaker 7: but didn't get in the end zone. everybody understands that
• 45:02
  Speaker 7: he's going to get a lot of attention. What is
• 45:05
  Speaker 7: going to happen? And last year, Carnell Tate, who scored
• 45:08
  Speaker 7: against the Longhorns, it really allowed Carnell Tate to turn
• 45:11
  Speaker 7: into the guy he became. That's where Ohio State went
• 45:14
  Speaker 7: and they added guys like Devin McCune, Brock Boyd, a freshman,
• 45:19
  Speaker 7: Kyle Parker, who transferred from LSU but hasn't played yet.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: So, and, you know, where do the.
• 45:24
  Speaker 7: Tight ends even fall into this also? And we've seen
• 45:26
  Speaker 7: at times, too, how some of the running backs in
• 45:28
  Speaker 7: the past have been crucial in the passing game. So,
• 45:31
  Speaker 7: You know, what Jeremiah can do is really amazing. It's
• 45:35
  Speaker 7: especially amazing when you know that he's going to be
• 45:37
  Speaker 7: a guy that's featured. He makes such incredibly tough catches.
• 45:41
  Speaker 7: But he's also a guy that's really gone to school
• 45:43
  Speaker 7: on the blocking part of it and doing all of that.
• 45:45
  Speaker 7: There was a quote somebody had after Saturday. And, again,
• 45:49
  Speaker 7: this is paraphrasing, like you said. They said something to
• 45:52
  Speaker 7: Jeremiah about playing the second half last Saturday. He's like, no,
• 45:54
  Speaker 7: let the other guys get in there. You know, we
• 45:56
  Speaker 7: need to be ready. for what's coming next week.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: It's a real grown-up assessment for him to have. And
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: by the way, when I was looking at all the
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: numbers there, I saw Brock Boyd and it put a
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: smile on my face. I did his state semifinal game
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: last year, and it was an unbelievable game between South
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: Lake Carroll and DeSoto. in that state semifinal. Um, one
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: more at the offense, the running backs. And, uh, you know, I,
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: I feel like we're all like supposed to say Bo Jackson,
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: not that Bo Jackson, you know, a long time ago,
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: you and I were a little bit younger when, when, uh,
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: Bo knows a football and was playing there, but how
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: about your assessment? Uh, not only him, but Jacoby Jackson,
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: Isaiah West legend Bay, your, your, your thoughts on what
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: you see from those guys.
• 46:39
  Speaker 7: Well, Bo Jackson certainly was a guy that last year,
• 46:42
  Speaker 7: especially late in the year, really kind of came into
• 46:44
  Speaker 7: his own. He's the guy that's shown the ability to
• 46:46
  Speaker 7: handle a big workload. We didn't see a lot of
• 46:48
  Speaker 7: Isaiah West last week, but he's a guy that's also
• 46:51
  Speaker 7: shown the kind of ability you would think. And Jacoby
• 46:53
  Speaker 7: Jackson was the guy at first we kind of thought
• 46:55
  Speaker 7: he was going to come in and be what C.J.
• 46:57
  Speaker 7: Donaldson was last year, short yardage guy. But he showed
• 47:00
  Speaker 7: some explosiveness last week. Now, the subject of Legend Bay
• 47:04
  Speaker 7: is a very interesting one because, and you probably are aware,
• 47:07
  Speaker 7: there was the big recruiting thing Brujaha that went on
• 47:10
  Speaker 7: on signing day, a difference with family members.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: I've heard a number of those stories over the years.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 47:18
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: It's not the first and it won't be the last.
• 47:21
  Speaker 7: But he showed, especially in the little touchdown catch that
• 47:24
  Speaker 7: he had on a short pass. I mean, the guy
• 47:27
  Speaker 7: has an incredible, the young man has an incredible ability
• 47:29
  Speaker 7: to make people miss. Now, the drama comes because they
• 47:33
  Speaker 7: designated him as the kick returner. And as I'm sure
• 47:35
  Speaker 7: you saw, the very first kick return when Brandon Innes
• 47:38
  Speaker 7: was telling him to stay out, stay in.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: He ran out.
• 47:41
  Speaker 7: His second decision was not a great one. Now, fortunately,
• 47:44
  Speaker 7: the ball didn't get lost. I think we're all curious
• 47:47
  Speaker 7: to see if he's going to get another opportunity to
• 47:49
  Speaker 7: return kicks. But they know that this is a guy
• 47:52
  Speaker 7: that's got some special talent that somehow or another, not
• 47:55
  Speaker 7: only just this weekend, but during the course of the season,
• 47:57
  Speaker 7: they're going to have to figure out ways to get
• 47:59
  Speaker 7: him to utilize that talent.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: Talking with Paul Keels, play-by-play voice of the Ohio State
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: Buckeyes for a few more minutes here on 1300 Zone.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: Let me shift to the defense. What was your biggest takeaway?
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, you know, holding Ball State to three
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: is impressive on its own end. It is Ball State,
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: just like everybody says the same thing about Texas. Holding
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: Texas State to seven, it is Texas State as well.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: But other than that, the totality of it, what were
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: the takeaways that you had from looking at the Buckeye defense?
• 48:27
  Speaker 7: Well, the first thing is they didn't even let Ball
• 48:29
  Speaker 7: State get in the red zone. And that kind of
• 48:30
  Speaker 7: goofed up one of our sponsor reads. We had to
• 48:32
  Speaker 7: figure out how to redo a red zone read.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but we figured it out. I didn't realize it
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: until after the game.
• 48:41
  Speaker 7: But maybe the biggest thing that I took away from it, Craig,
• 48:45
  Speaker 7: is not only that they played a lot of players
• 48:47
  Speaker 7: on defense, but we saw glimpses of a number of
• 48:50
  Speaker 7: different people having influence on plays. I won't say making
• 48:54
  Speaker 7: big plays, but having influence on those plays. And you
• 48:57
  Speaker 7: know that The talent they lost last year with losing
• 49:00
  Speaker 7: Cade McDonald on the line, losing those two outstanding linebackers
• 49:03
  Speaker 7: in recent styles, losing Caleb Downs in the back end.
• 49:07
  Speaker 7: It's hard to think that they're going to have guys
• 49:09
  Speaker 7: that can play at that level, but they bring back
• 49:11
  Speaker 7: experience and they bring back some guys that have transferred
• 49:15
  Speaker 7: in with experience. So maybe the biggest thing I could
• 49:17
  Speaker 7: say is we saw a number of different peoples. affecting plays.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: Uh, Bo Atkinson and Kenyatta Jackson, basically the anchors of
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: that defensive front.
• 49:27
  Speaker 7: They are. And I think you're going to see Edward Houston,
• 49:29
  Speaker 7: who as a freshman two years ago, really flashed last year.
• 49:33
  Speaker 7: It was a little nagging injury that kind of kept
• 49:35
  Speaker 7: him bothered. But you know, another guy to keep an
• 49:38
  Speaker 7: eye for on for Craig is Kari Wilder, a freshman
• 49:41
  Speaker 7: who they list as a defensive end. They line him
• 49:43
  Speaker 7: up at tackle sometimes, too. And this young guy is
• 49:46
  Speaker 7: a freshman. Even from as far up as we were
• 49:48
  Speaker 7: at the press box, you could tell this is a
• 49:50
  Speaker 7: guy that's a little different out there. But you'll see
• 49:52
  Speaker 7: new guys like John Walker and James Smith who came in.
• 49:55
  Speaker 7: Quay Rousseau from Alabama didn't play last Saturday but should
• 49:59
  Speaker 7: be good to go. But, yeah, Jackson and Atkinson on
• 50:02
  Speaker 7: the ends are kind of their ink.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: But in the secondary, and again, rolling back to what
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: Coach Day said, he said, yeah, there's some guys that
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: went up. Jermaine Matthews is a veteran. He's back there.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: And I'm here to tell you, and he's only a sophomore.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: But again, another example, when I called state championship games,
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: he played it. Devin Sanchez was a homewrecker at the
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: high school level when he played for Galena Park North
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: Shore in the Houston area. I think it speaks to
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: guys like that. And then you have a grad transfer
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: like Terry Moore at the free safety and Jalen McLean
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: at the strong safety.
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: Guys that bring.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: Some experience from other areas and have grown into their
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: positions as well.
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: They have.
• 50:40
  Speaker 7: And Jalen McClain's another returning guy who's just steady. He
• 50:43
  Speaker 7: hasn't done a lot that really makes you know. But
• 50:45
  Speaker 7: the guy to watch out for is Jay Timmons, a
• 50:47
  Speaker 7: true freshman from Pennsylvania. He started last week in the backfield,
• 50:52
  Speaker 7: and he's a guy that all summer we kept hearing,
• 50:54
  Speaker 7: this is a guy that's really showing an awful lot
• 50:56
  Speaker 7: out there. And, you know, freshman to start a defensive
• 50:59
  Speaker 7: back at Ohio State, that's not something you generally see
• 51:03
  Speaker 7: a lot, Craig.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: And last year in that very similar position, the nickelback
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: position with the Buckeyes, that's what we saw from Grayson
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: Littleton last year in that starback as a freshman. And
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: maybe guys grow up a little quicker back there.
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: And the football IQ is big as well. It's been
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: 20 years since you've been down here. That's amazing. Have
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: you not set foot in Austin, Texas, USA since then?
• 51:29
  Speaker 6: No.
• 51:30
  Speaker 7: No.
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: Not that I haven't wanted to, but I haven't, no.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, you and I, Carl's past, we saw each
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: other in Las Vegas before the basketball season opener a
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: couple of years ago.
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: There was that.
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: And then obviously we've seen each other since with the
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: bowl games. You know, I think when I think about this,
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: I know what last year was, and everybody talked about it,
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: and it was difficult. And then really and truly, the
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: game in 06, the last time you were here, that
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: was the widest point spread final margin of the game.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: But even that, with Troy Smith launching the Heisman campaign,
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: even that I thought was a pretty entertaining ballgame. And
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: then you add to that the game in Columbus in 2005,
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: and then that Fiesta Bowl. I mean, we've seen some
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: really entertaining games.
• 52:17
  Speaker 7: Between these two. You know, I was thinking about the
• 52:20
  Speaker 7: Fiesta Bowl. back before all of those when Terrell Pryor
• 52:24
  Speaker 7: and Todd Beckman, two quarterbacks, both started the game on
• 52:28
  Speaker 7: the field at the same time, and Pryor lined up
• 52:30
  Speaker 7: as a receiver. The one in Columbus that Texas won,
• 52:34
  Speaker 7: if you remember, that's when Troy Smith had been suspended
• 52:37
  Speaker 7: for the opener, and they were kind of shuttling Smith
• 52:39
  Speaker 7: and Zwick back at quarterback, and that kind of retarded
• 52:42
  Speaker 7: the offense a little bit.
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: The one in Austin, and it came.
• 52:45
  Speaker 7: Up about James Laurinaitis, now the linebackers coach, had a
• 52:47
  Speaker 7: big interception in that game. But it is crazy to
• 52:50
  Speaker 7: think that it's been 20 years since that happened. Even crazier, Craig,
• 52:55
  Speaker 7: to think that it's only been since that first Fiesta
• 52:59
  Speaker 7: Bowl way back when that these two schools had not played.
• 53:01
  Speaker 7: I mean, even by accident in a bowl game. That's
• 53:04
  Speaker 7: the thing that really jumped out at me. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: The final thing I want to ask you here, and
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: it kind of dovetails off of what we were just
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: talking about, and that's these big matchups. And in this
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: day and age now, NIL and Portal and what we
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: apparently are going to see with an expanded, doubled-in-size playoff
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: as well with the expulsion of conference championship games, certainly
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: my hope, and I think it's your hope as well,
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: that we continue to see these big games. Michigan has
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: a return game back in Austin next year. Right now,
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: there's a home-and-home with Notre Dame. We'll see in 2029
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: if it comes out that way. But I know that's,
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: I would imagine that's a hope of yours to see
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: matchups like this continued even in the ever-changing face of
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: this game.
• 53:49
  Speaker 7: Well, Greg, I think that That's good for the fans, too.
• 53:52
  Speaker 7: Ohio State next year will start a home-and-home with Alabama.
• 53:56
  Speaker 7: And both schools have indicated they're still on board with
• 53:59
  Speaker 7: letting it continue.
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: You hope so.
• 54:01
  Speaker 7: I mean, I don't know how you feel, but if
• 54:03
  Speaker 7: they do expand, not brokenhearted about the possibility of conference
• 54:06
  Speaker 7: championship games going away. But, you know, I think the
• 54:10
  Speaker 7: other part of it is, and unfortunately you guys lived it, okay,
• 54:13
  Speaker 7: you can lose a game like Ohio State-Texas. But then
• 54:17
  Speaker 7: if you lose another one someplace that you really shouldn't lose,
• 54:20
  Speaker 7: and Ohio State's had that. They, you know, they had
• 54:22
  Speaker 7: a bad loss at Purdue a number of years ago,
• 54:24
  Speaker 7: a loss at Iowa, two losses that kept them out
• 54:27
  Speaker 7: of the 14 playoff. You know, games like this, if
• 54:30
  Speaker 7: they're tight, close games, that damage is somewhat limited.
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: It's what you do the rest of the year.
• 54:37
  Speaker 7: And this is, for Ohio State, maybe one of the
• 54:39
  Speaker 7: most challenging schedules they've had in a number of years
• 54:42
  Speaker 7: outside of this game because they've got to go to
• 54:44
  Speaker 7: USC and They've got Illinois and Oregon coming to Columbus,
• 54:47
  Speaker 7: and then there's the one at the end of the
• 54:48
  Speaker 7: year that's always its own life. So you hope that
• 54:52
  Speaker 7: these continue, and you hope they continue on campus sites
• 54:56
  Speaker 7: and not the one-offs in Atlanta or wherever, because I
• 55:00
  Speaker 7: think those are good for the fans.
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: I agree with you.
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: If I rapid-fire asked you, other than the Buckeyes, who
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: is the best team in the Big Ten, the team
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: to beat, in your opinion?
• 55:12
  Speaker 7: I'd say Oregon. Despite what we saw last Saturday. And,
• 55:16
  Speaker 7: you know, Boise State has given Oregon trouble in two
• 55:18
  Speaker 7: of the last three years. But that would probably be
• 55:20
  Speaker 7: the team I'd say right now. Hey, it's great to
• 55:23
  Speaker 7: see you. And I can't wait to see you get
• 55:25
  Speaker 7: down in Austin. Your broadcast position will be slightly better
• 55:29
  Speaker 7: than Glendale.
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: I can promise you that. So we'll kind of work
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: with that.
• 55:34
  Speaker 7: You know, I was thinking last night after we did our,
• 55:36
  Speaker 7: or the other night if we did our thing, we
• 55:38
  Speaker 7: go months and maybe years where we don't speak to
• 55:40
  Speaker 7: one another.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: No, the last month we've talked a lot. I know.
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: That's fun.
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: I'll look forward to seeing you and the crew. It'll
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: be great to see when you get down here, Paul.
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: Safe travels. I'll look forward to visiting with you on Saturday.
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: All right, Craig. My pleasure. Good to see you. You too.
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: That's Paul Keels, play-by-play voice of the Ohio State Buckeyes.
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: We have more coming up. We'll hear some more from
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: Brian Schottenheimer when we continue on 13 Under the Zone.
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: It's a little bit of a different swan from the
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: greatness of Walter Becker and Donald Fagan and Steely Dan.
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: This is the.
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: Mock Turtle song from the last album they did of
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: Steely Dan, The Old Regime, in 2013.
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: So.
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: It does become one of the more popular ones when
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: you read a lot of stuff about.
• 56:36
  Speaker 6: It.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: Steely Dan fans really like this tune, the Mock Turtle song.
• 56:41
  Speaker 4: So Walter's singing here?
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: Yes. So, good stuff. All right.
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: Let's hear some more stuff from Brian Schottenheimer, the Cowboys
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: head coach. And we've talked about this. It's hot, very hot, clearly.
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: Temperatures right around at or above triple digits. not only
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: here in Austin, up in the Dallas forward Metroplex, and
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: that includes the Frisco, the star Frisco there. And he
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: was asked about the thought process between how much time
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: you split between outdoor on their practice fields, outdoor or
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: moving inside the Ford Center.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: AI has changed everything. Sports science has changed everything.
• 57:20
  Speaker 6: You know, we've got a unique situation when you look at,
• 57:23
  Speaker 6: you know, these next, you know, five weeks, really, when
• 57:25
  Speaker 6: you factor in, you know, get home at 5 a.m. and,
• 57:29
  Speaker 6: you know, trip to Rio, which is like a short
• 57:30
  Speaker 6: week kind of for us. And, you know, the league
• 57:32
  Speaker 6: does a favor by getting, getting us go to Houston
• 57:34
  Speaker 6: and then come home on Thursday.
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: That was cool.
• 57:37
  Speaker 6: Um, and so, um, you know, we're just trying to
• 57:41
  Speaker 6: do what we can to avoid the heat. We don't
• 57:42
  Speaker 6: play in the heat, you know, so right now we're
• 57:44
  Speaker 6: just trying to do our best to get on the
• 57:47
  Speaker 6: grass for certain things and then be inside for certain things. Uh,
• 57:50
  Speaker 6: but we're really just, you know, the sports science team
• 57:52
  Speaker 6: is driving a lot of those decisions and, um, you know,
• 57:56
  Speaker 6: right now we just feel we can get better work done, uh, inside.
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: And inquiring minds want to know just who is the
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: sports science team.
• 58:03
  Speaker 6: I can't give you all their names, but, uh, you know,
• 58:06
  Speaker 6: from all departments, analytics from the training staff to, uh,
• 58:10
  Speaker 6: the strength coaches, um, you know, there's, there's a ton
• 58:13
  Speaker 6: of people. And so it's a, it's a big group and, um,
• 58:16
  Speaker 6: they honestly, they do a great job. They meet every week.
• 58:19
  Speaker 6: They talk about our players, what our players need, where
• 58:21
  Speaker 6: is this guy doing well, where is this guy deficient?
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: How can we do this?
• 58:24
  Speaker 6: You know, and I think the cool thing I'll speak
• 58:26
  Speaker 6: to the group is, you know, like the players have
• 58:29
  Speaker 6: really bought in, Todd, to the recovery aspect of this, massages,
• 58:32
  Speaker 6: and we spent a bunch of money on, you know,
• 58:35
  Speaker 6: recovery things and, you know, new, you know, like resources
• 58:42
  Speaker 6: with the saunas and stuff in the training room. So
• 58:46
  Speaker 6: that group that I'm not naming because there's a lot.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: Of them, but they do a great job. But they're
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: all members of the sports science team.
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: He was also asked about the confidence level that he
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: has seen in Christian Parker as his defensive coordinator and
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: what Parker has seen from the defensive unit week by week.
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: Very confident.
• 59:05
  Speaker 6: You know, listening, sitting in on his meetings and the
• 59:08
  Speaker 6: things that he talks about, like I said there's a
• 59:10
  Speaker 6: very clear plan you know this is a unique opportunity
• 59:14
  Speaker 6: um because they don't know what we're going to do
• 59:16
  Speaker 6: on defense and you know we don't know what they're
• 59:19
  Speaker 6: going to do on offense you know they've got matt
• 59:21
  Speaker 6: nagy who's a terrific coach um greg roman you know
• 59:26
  Speaker 6: very very different you know One's the RPO guy and
• 59:29
  Speaker 6: sub personnel. So, you know, in terms of Christian, the
• 59:34
  Speaker 6: plan that he's put together with the staff, we're only
• 59:36
  Speaker 6: through normal down distance. We haven't done, you know, third
• 59:38
  Speaker 6: down a red zone yet. We've started third down a
• 59:40
  Speaker 6: little bit, but just like you would imagine is excellent.
• 59:45
  Speaker 6: And it's one, I think that will allow our players
• 59:47
  Speaker 6: to play fast, play free.
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: And that's what we want. We don't want to be
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: doing a lot of thinking. And a couple of thoughts
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: on a couple of former Longhorns.
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: First of all, DeMarvian Overshawn, who's had to come off
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: of two season-ending injuries. And Sean Ambers asked about the
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: work he's been able to put in over the past year.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: Number one, I'm so happy for him.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 6: I'm proud of him, the way he's worked and how
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 6: hard he's, you know, attacked learning this. playbook another system
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 6: you know we've i think we've talked about that a
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 6: lot so i won't dive into but these players that
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 6: have been here for a couple years all the different
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 6: systems they've been through you know from dq to zim
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 6: to floos to you know christian but like he's really
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 6: attacked this one and um he's practicing with a different
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 6: intent i think it's probably because he feels good and
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 6: uh really excited to see him run around and hit.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: People all right and then one more uh pj lock
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: the former longhorn and who had really played well in
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: denver and now in a cowboy uniform Yeah, it's been great.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 6: I mean, Clarence asked a question about him and Malik.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 6: The other thing about PJ is PJ is another guy
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 6: that just on special teams, he does everything. So he's
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 6: playing safety, he's playing special teams. Great command back there,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 6: understands the calls. I think that's where I'm excited to
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 6: see the communication this weekend. They're going to challenge us
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 6: with different personnel groupings, a lot of big personnel groupings.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 6: And you know, just unbalanced lines and things that a
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 6: Matt Nagy, Greg Roman, you know, offense do. And we'll
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 6: have to communicate well. And PJ is excellent at that.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: We'll hear some more from Shadi coming up next hour.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: We'll be back to wrap up our number two here
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: on 1300 The Zone. Third and final hour of the
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: program here on a Yacht Rock Wednesday here on 1300
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: The Zone.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: Craig Wade, joined by the producer, Jake Herman. Glad to
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: have you with us. We'll take you up to 5 o'clock.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: Bucky and BK, come along at that point.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: Hey, a reminder, tomorrow we'll have Longhorn Weekly with Steve Sarkeesian.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: First of all, tomorrow, Sark does his weekly Zoom video
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: conference with the media. And we'll bring you his thoughts
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: and comments about this matchup with Ohio State and his
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: team and so on and so forth.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: We'll do that tomorrow during these proceedings.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: And then tomorrow night, you'll be able to hear Longhorn
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: Wheeler say, tomorrow it's 5.30 again tomorrow, isn't it, Jake?
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: Because of the Round Rock Express contest, I do believe.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: I think we're back on for... 5.30 airtime. Once we
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: get beyond the completion of the minor league baseball season,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: then it'll kind of settle in at 7 o'clock.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: But I believe it's 5.30 right now.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: Looks like we're going at 6 o'clock tomorrow night on
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: Longhorn Weekly.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: Okay. 6 tomorrow.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: And then I thought I saw, I think the following
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: is 5.30, and then it may roll.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: Into a regular time after that. We'll see.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: But, okay. So, it'll be 6 o'clock tomorrow evening.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 6: Yep.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: And we have a special guest on the program tomorrow,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: Matt Brown will be with us. So we'll visit with
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: him and talk about that matchup with Ohio State in
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: 05 in Columbus, the rematch in Austin in 06, the
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: last time the Buckeyes were here 20 years ago, and
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: then that Fiesta Bowl as well. So we'll do all that,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: and you'll be able to hear it tomorrow evening on
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: the program. Friday, and we should point this out on Friday,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: we'll be with you from 2 to 3. And then
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: there's a special football weekend preview show coming your way
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: from Covert.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: And which location of Covert? 183.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 4: Okay, yeah.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: Up there, 183. Research, which is right near Duval, I think.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: But anyway, it's right up there at 183. Next to Rudy's.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: So the guys will be out there to do a
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: special two-hour football weekend preview from 3 to 5 tomorrow.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: And that's the first of a series of football weekend
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: preview shows that we'll bring you from the Covert Family
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: of Dealerships.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: So that'll be tomorrow afternoon.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: We've got a one-hour edition of this program from 2
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: to 3, and then they'll have it from 3 to 5. Okay,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: I want to go back to some of the sound.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: We heard from Lance Jackson earlier, and we'll hear some more.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: Coming up, we're going to hear more from Brian Schottenheimer,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: the Cowboys head coach. Lance Jackson, of course, the sophomore
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: rush-in for Texas. I think there's a lot of folks,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: myself included, who are expecting big things out of Lance
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: this season because there's probably going to be added attention
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: focused on defending the other side of the rush in
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: Colin Simmons, namely. And in fact, in watching Ryan Day's
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: news conference this week, he mentioned Colin Simmons a couple
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: of times. So obviously he has their attention. Not that
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: Lance Jackson in the totality of the Texas defense does not,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: but he certainly has the attention of them. So in
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: Will Muschamp getting all of this together, Now Lance Jackson
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: ready to go again. And he was asked about this
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: matchup in week two versus week one, given the fact, remember,
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: he was a true freshman a year ago.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: So a lot has changed.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 5: I feel like it's definitely a little different because we
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 5: get to watch some week one film on them. So
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 5: we kind of get to get an idea of things
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 5: they're doing this year. Then we can also watch last year.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 5: I feel like last year we kind of just going
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 5: into it, not really knowing anything. but now this year
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 5: we get to watch them in week one, so it
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 5: kind of gives us an idea.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, a chance to look back at their win over
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: Ball State and draw their conclusions of that. He was asked,
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: you know, what was his overall evaluation, his review, as
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: he saw it, of the Texas defense from the week
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: one win over Texas State?
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 5: I feel like we definitely played pretty good. Forced turnovers,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 5: that was good. But I feel like up front, we just...
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 5: We got to play better. I feel like it wasn't
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 5: good enough for us. I feel like we didn't put
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 5: on display what is going to be the rest of
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 5: the year. I feel like there's definitely way more in
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 5: our tank that we're going to show this year.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: Well, the Ohio State Buckeye offense has already shown quite
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: a bit early on, and that was.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: Even against Ball State.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is that they're not
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: unveiling all kinds of newfangled things, but they're just showing
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: what they're going to do. And after not having a huge.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: First half run of the football. They really settled into
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: the second half. They do have a Bo Jackson. Not
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: that one. They have another one. He's a sophomore from Cleveland.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: He had 83 yards rushing.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: And a touchdown.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: Had a big one, a 65-yard run in there. Isaiah
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: West carried the football. Jacoby Jackson had eight carries. He's
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: the Florida transfer. So they put their ground attack really
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: on display in the second half, and Lance Jackson was
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: asked to be evaluate what he saw from ohio state's running.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 5: Backs um yeah their running backs are definitely good uh
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 5: explosive can move laterally um big and they have a
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 5: couple of running backs that can go now um tight
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 5: ends pretty good tackles fast athletic um so i mean
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 5: i mean i really i didn't get to watch full
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 5: film on ball state uh yet but yeah i mean
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 5: their o-line's athletic their running backs are big and athletic
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 5: too so i feel like their run games definitely could
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 5: be good Yeah.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: And that's one of the things I think that folks
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: had a little bit of a question mark about it.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: Going into the season, and.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: That was how would Ohio State's rebuild offensive line do? Now, obviously,
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: we visited with Paul Keels, the play-by-play voice, to talk
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: about that, and he thinks that that's going to be
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: one of the key matchups is that offensive front for
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: the Buckeyes against you know, what, what Texas, uh, does
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: with its defensive front. So there's, there's plenty there involved
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: with that.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: Okay. So, uh, in, in addition.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: To getting ready for that Ohio state offense, uh, the
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: Texas defense certainly drew its share of attention on big plays.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: You heard Lance Jackson a moment ago, talked about forcing
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: some turnovers, uh, you could look up the textbook definition
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: of forced turnover in the book and see what Raheem
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: Biles did in punching out the ball as he wound up,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: punched it out, and then followed through to make the tackle.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: By then, the ball was out, and Grayson Littleton scooped
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: it up and ran it in for a touchdown. Biles,
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: after the game, said he didn't realize he'd completely dislodged
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: the football, so he was following through on his tackle,
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: but boy, did he ever, and so Jackson was asking,
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: has he ever seen anyone punch the ball out like
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: Biles did?
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I definitely haven't. Yeah, it was just a big
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 5: old hole. I was actually hit on that play. I
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 5: stunned it to the A-gap, and then the hole just
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 5: opened up big, and He just punched it right out
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 5: and got a good lick on him.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: It was pretty cool to see on film. Yeah, it
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: really was.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: It was quite interesting to see that it brings to
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: mind what Derek Johnson.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: Did when he was at Texas.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: But he would do it a little bit differently is
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: the way that Johnson would do it. He would kind
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: of wind up and But he would do it after
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: he had the ball carrier secured and then would wind
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: up with what we used to call the Popeye punch.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: He would bring it through to do that.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: So it's interesting to see the way that Raheem Biles
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: goes about doing that. Okay, a couple other things from
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: Lance Jackson. The Houston Texans opened their season this Sunday.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: against the Buffalo Bills. Now, Lance has a brother who
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: plays for the Bills, Landon Jackson, older brother, former All-Southeastern
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: Conference defensive end at Arkansas, was drafted in the third
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: round of the 2025 NFL draft a year ago. So, yeah,
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: his brother's going to play this Sunday in Houston. So,
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: as a result of that, Lance was asked, Uh, will
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: he get an opportunity to see his brother play? And
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: is there any brotherly advice that goes on between the two?
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, for me, it's just, he's kind of just don't
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 5: try to like force to make plays too much. He's
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 5: just kind of play your game, play your technique, how
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 5: you know how to do and try not to force anything. Um,
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 5: But yeah, I think I'm definitely going to try to
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 5: get to Houston on Sunday, but I've got to play
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 5: Ohio State first.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: There you go.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: And they're going to have to obviously be on their
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: game to be able to beat this top-ranked team in
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: the country. That means playing very smart, playing with your
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: football IQ really dialed in. And going back to Raheem Biles,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: that's one thing that Jackson says that dude has is
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: a high football IQ.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 5: I feel like in that game, too, when he got
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 5: his pick, if you watch it back, He's kind of
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 5: just like, it looks like he's in slow motion. He
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 5: goes to the right, and then he sees the receiver
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 5: come in, and he just reads the screen. And it's like,
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 5: he almost makes the quarterback look kind of like funny, like,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 5: where are you throwing the ball?
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: Because he just, he's able to read the offense so well.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, in addition to being physical, there's that art of
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: deception that Raheem Biles is able to do, be able
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: to get guys. turned and looking the wrong way or
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: making the wrong decision with a football or cutting the
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: wrong way.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: If you're running back, those kinds of things.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: That's another very important part of a defensive player is
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: to be able to redirect an offensive player, make him
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: go where he doesn't want to go or throw the
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: ball where he doesn't want to throw or throw it quicker.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: Those kinds of things. Uh, the football IQ element. That's,
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: that's always very, very important.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: Okay. Um, Coming up next, we're going to shift back
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: to the NFL.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: And we'll hear from Brian Schottenheimer, the Cowboys head coach.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: Of course, the Cowboys season opener Sunday night.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: That's a 720 kickoff for the Cowboys as they take
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: on the New York football Giants. You'll be able to
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: hear that on 98.1 FM. You'll be able to hear
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: that Texans-Bills game here on The Zone on Sunday at noon. So,
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: Week one of the NFL season, which, of course, begins tonight.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: We talked about it earlier with the Patriots-Seahawks Super Bowl
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: rematch tonight. Tomorrow, Rams 49ers in Melbourne, Australia. And then
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: everybody gets into the act on Sunday, followed by the
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: Monday night week one concluding game. All right, coming up next,
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: some more Cowboys conversation right here on Sports Radio AM
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: 13 Under the Zone and the iHeartRadio app.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: That's just the way it is.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: Back here on Yacht Rock Wednesday on 1300 The Zone.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: Jake Herman said he didn't know this qualified as Yacht Rock.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 3: I heard this song most recently covered by a jam
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 3: band I really like called Goose.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: I've heard that. I've heard the cover. It's not bad.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 4: They go for 10 minutes on this.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. It's not bad.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: But....
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: Of course, Bruce Hortons being the range, the original of
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: this is, I believe, 87 it came out.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: You know where I heard this?
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: I heard it on iHeartRadios, the iHeartRadio app on their
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: Yacht Rock channel.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we hear ads for it on this program all
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: the time, but there's no better advertisement for that than
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: listening to you on a Wednesday.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: Well, I was riding around, thought, yeah, we're going to listen.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, yeah, okay. Bruce Hortons being the
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: range there. on a Yacht Rock Wednesday. Let's go back
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: to discussing pro football opening night tonight with Seahawks and Patriots,
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: Rams 49ers tomorrow night in Australia, and then you get
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: into the meat and potatoes on Sunday, including the Cowboys
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: opening against the New York Giants and opening with a
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: division opponent. In this day and age, you know, where
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: you've got, you know, the four divisions in each conference,
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: you're going to play the other three teams in your
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: division twice sometimes. And even before, I'll tell you this
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: because I'm old enough to remember, even before it was
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: four divisions, when it was three divisions for a long
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: time before expansion, even before it went to 17 games,
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: even before it went to 16 games, because when I
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: was a teenager, the NFL schedule until I was 18
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: The NFL schedule is 14 games. But even back then,
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: teams opened with divisional opponents from time to time.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: Some did.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: So it's not unusual to play division opponents to start.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: Some might think there should be some added emphasis on that.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: Schottenheimer was asked about that at his press conference. Is
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: there a little extra emphasized meaning of divisional games?
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 6: We plan one day at a time, one game at
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 6: a time. I think when you do that, we have
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 6: to plan ahead. Rio's not right down the street, so
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 6: we have to plan ahead for that. But for the players,
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 6: it's just Wednesday. I told them today, today is September 9, 2026,
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 6: and we have to win the day. And if you
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 6: start worrying about Sunday night and you don't focus on today,
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 6: then guess what? We won't have the preparation that we need.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 6: And we talked a lot about preparation. We're more of a,
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 6: I say, 80-20 team. preparation team, which means we spend
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 6: 80% of our time talking about us, knowing our stuff
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 6: and what we're doing and why we're doing it, what
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 6: are the adjustments, and 20% worrying about the opponent. And
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 6: so I think that's something that I believe is important
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 6: because if you understand what you're doing, your self-inflicted wounds
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 6: should be very, very low. And self-inflicted wounds in this
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 6: way get you beat.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: In taking on the Giants, one thing that Schottenheimer was
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: asked about is The Giants, 12 personnel. When you hear
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: 12 personnel, it's one back, two tight ends. And they'll
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: kind of line up big to go with that. And
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: he was asked, how about the challenge for his defense
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: when the Giants go to that 12 personnel?
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I mean, they've got very specific people that
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 6: they do very specific things with. You know, Ricard's different
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 6: than likely. You know, I mean, Malik Nabors is different
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 6: than Odell. So you have to know, oh, Scataboo's in
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 6: the game. Tyrone Tracy's in the game. So again, the
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 6: guys in the box have to do a great job.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 6: They do a nice job of shuffling their pieces around.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 6: But we have plans for different groupings and different people,
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 6: and they definitely challenge you with that.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: And so game one will be tested. But again, I
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: think the.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 6: Fact that we communicate very, very well and have a
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 6: good plan going in.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: I think we'll be in good shape.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: Before the season opener, quite often you're going to be
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: asked if you're an NFL coach about your practice squad
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: because it's still fresh. You've come out of training camp,
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: and now you get ready for the start of a season,
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: but there were some guys you cut and then brought
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: back and added to your practice squad, or there were
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: just somebody else you plucked off of another, you might say,
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: roster deletion and added to your practice squad. So he
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: was asked about Lakin Tomlinson's addition to his practice squad.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 6: And just, you know, you watch the guys played a
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 6: ton of football, I think it's 112 starts or something
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 6: like that. I've been a fan of his, but, you know,
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 6: he understands the game of football for a guy his age.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 6: He can still bend. He's got tremendous length. But you
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 6: see the pop in his lower body. And, you know, again,
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 6: this is something that, you know, when you're trying to
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 6: add people to the practice squad, certainly the veterans, you'd
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 6: like to find guys that, when things happen, you can play,
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 6: you know, and you can insert them. And so he'll
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 6: be in a ramp up period. He won't, you know,
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 6: be doing much of practice today. We got to get
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 6: them ready to go and we'll do that.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: Well, at this time of year, when it's really, really hot,
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: the Texas heat always is taken into account, whether it's
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: games or just practice. And Sean, Ivers asked how hot
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: does it really have to get in order for him
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: to decide, you know, it's not worth practicing outside. Let's
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: get inside there at the Ford center. Let's get inside
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: and work in there instead of work outside.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 6: I mean, there's not, you know, there's, there's, it's, it's
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 6: more of the humidity and, What are we doing from sweating?
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 6: And we do all the sweat testing. We've got these
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 6: cool urinals. I don't know how much they cost, but
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 6: they must have been expensive. You pee and it tells
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 6: you whatever your urination levels are.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: It's crazy.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 6: But it's all those things that go into it. That's
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 6: what you do as a head coach. You're like, hey,
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 6: how are the urination levels?
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: Are they cool? Let's go inside. Oh, they're low.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 6: Okay, let's go outside. I'm making light of it. But no,
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 6: I mean, look, if we can get outside tomorrow, we will.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 6: If we can't, we won't.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: But this is a long season.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 6: And, you know, again, the one thing I will say
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 6: is the turf inside, I think, feels better, feels different.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 6: I know we moved some turf around and got some
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 6: stuff in there that the guys actually feel better on it.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: And then one more from Brian Schottenheimer.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: He was asked, and this is, you love when questions
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: like this get asked.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: Of course, with.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: The Cowboys taking Caleb Downs, he was asked if there
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: was a concern when the Giants were on the clock
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: that they were going to get.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: Downs instead of him getting Downs for his team.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 6: I was very nervous because I'd heard John, Coach Harbaugh,
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 6: talk about.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: That he was a generational safety. I think it was
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: the terms he used.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 6: If I'm wrong, I apologize, but I knew how much
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 6: he thought of him. They got a terrific player, but
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 6: we were surprised. They got a great player from Ohio
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 6: State as well and Arvel Reese and but I was
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 6: surprised but it wasn't just them it was a number
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 6: of the teams in front of.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: Us okay all right that makes sense all right what
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: we're going to do is we're going to take a
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: break when we come back Jake Herman and I he
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: doesn't know this I'm just now unveiling this although we've
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: probably talked about it in the past a little bit
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: we're going to make our NFL picks all right so
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: we're gonna you're gonna you're gonna you're gonna make your
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: choices of the four division winners in each conference, the
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: three wildcard teams, which teams will advance from the wildcard
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: round into the divisional round and then to the conference
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: championship games and then to the Super Bowl, and you're going.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: To pick a Super Bowl champion.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 4: On the fly.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: I love it. I thought about.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: Giving us a lot of brain power on this, a
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: lot of prep time, and I thought, nope, nope, I'm
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: going to let this thing just kind of organically come
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: to us who do we think is going to win
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: each division and make the playoffs and win the thing.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 4: Hopefully i do better than major league baseball.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 3: That didn't go too well for you did it's been
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 3: a mixed bag we'll revisit it later okay okay i've
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 3: had a couple teams that started really slow that have
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  Speaker 3: come around and made me look at least not horrible
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  Speaker 3: okay kansas city royals as a wild card that one's
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  Speaker 3: tough to shake off.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah that one didn't go well okay um all
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  Speaker 1: right so we'll do that coming up uh some nfl
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  Speaker 1: picks just around the corner we'll continue here on this
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  Speaker 1: Yacht Rock Wednesday on Sports Radio AM 13 under the
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  Speaker 1: zone on the iHeartRadio app.
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  Speaker 4: Here on the.
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  Speaker 1: Yacht Rock Wednesday, hearing from the godfather of Yacht Rock,
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  Speaker 1: Michael McDonald.
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  Speaker 2: This is actually off the QB Brothers album.
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  Speaker 1: Carry Me Away was this one. And I believe it's
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  Speaker 1: off of Living on the Fault Line, which really kind
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  Speaker 1: of Living on the Fault Line is viewed as being
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  Speaker 1: the ground zero album for yacht rock, which really kind
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: of launched the genre.
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  Speaker 2: Because if you've seen.
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  Speaker 1: The yacht rock documentary, they talk about the Doobie Brothers
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  Speaker 1: playing outdoors in a festival in California. And it was
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: this newer sound. And everybody was just, you know, flipped
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  Speaker 1: out over it. And this was right in the wheelhouse.
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  Speaker 4: A little bit like Dylan going electric. Same type of reaction.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, when Dylan went electric, he had a lot of
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  Speaker 1: negative reaction to that, too. There was a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people thought he had sold out, especially when they heard
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  Speaker 1: Nashville Skyline that album. But with the Doobies, it was
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  Speaker 1: just kind of looked at as being kind of a transition.
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  Speaker 1: There were those who thought, yeah, the Doobies had kind
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  Speaker 1: of sold.
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  Speaker 2: Out as well. But it was just a different. Genre,
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  Speaker 2: different time. That's why I always.
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  Speaker 1: Said I didn't mind Doobie Brothers pre-Michael McDonald, which was
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: a harder edge, you know, China Grove and some of
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: those tunes. Blackwater, a different feel, you know. But then
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  Speaker 1: when McDonald joined and you had taken it to the
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  Speaker 1: streets and, you know, Long Train Runnin' when you had
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  Speaker 1: a lot of, well, not Long Train Runnin', a couple
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  Speaker 1: other ones that had McDonald's voice on it. You kind
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  Speaker 1: of understood the metamorphosis they'd undergone going from caterpillar to butterfly.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. Some might look at
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  Speaker 2: it that way.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, fun to hear it over the years.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Night number one in the National Football League. I always
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: commend the NFL with the way the scheduling works, even
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  Speaker 1: with 17 games.
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  Speaker 2: And you know me, Jake.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a more is more guy normally. there have been
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: two things I've kind of pulled back on a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not crazy about the idea of a 2014 college
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  Speaker 1: football playoff, but it looks like no matter how I
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: feel about it or anybody else, it looks like it's
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  Speaker 1: going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: And so I'm okay.
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  Speaker 1: I thought maybe one more expansion of 16 might be
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: the ideal number. Same thing with the NCAA basketball tournament
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  Speaker 1: at 64. I was in the league with a lot
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: of folks in line with a lot of folks who
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  Speaker 1: thought that 64 was the right number. 68 was okay
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  Speaker 1: because I didn't mind– the play-in games, the first four
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  Speaker 1: in Dayton, especially when I could see firsthand how that
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  Speaker 1: city just embraces those two nights of basketball and reducing
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  Speaker 1: the field from 68 to 64. I saw it first
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  Speaker 1: doing the national broadcast there at the Dayton Arena for
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  Speaker 1: Westwood One back in 2016. And then the last two
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  Speaker 1: years with Texas playing in it, I got a chance
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  Speaker 1: to see it. And with Texas on the short end
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: of it, there in 2025 and then in 2026 with
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: the win over NC State that propelled them to go
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: on and then beat BYU in Portland and then knock
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: out Gonzaga in Portland to reach the round of the
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  Speaker 1: Sweet 16.
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  Speaker 2: I saw the usefulness of it.
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  Speaker 1: And that's why I try not to get too over
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  Speaker 1: the top on the expansion to 76.
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  Speaker 2: I know it.
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  Speaker 1: Sounds like an awful lot, but There are three, I
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  Speaker 1: think it's 351 Division I basketball programs in the nation,
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  Speaker 1: college basketball.
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  Speaker 2: So you're still far less than half, especially when you
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  Speaker 2: look at it.
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  Speaker 1: And I think in college football, we've got 24 and
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  Speaker 1: we've got what now? 135, I think, Division I FBS
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  Speaker 1: football programs. So anyway, just some thoughts on that. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: but The NFL, when I started to say they do
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  Speaker 1: a good job with what they've done, and right now
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  Speaker 1: you've got 14 teams that make the playoffs, seven in
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  Speaker 1: the NFC, seven in the AFC, that make it. You
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  Speaker 1: have the four division winners and three wildcard teams that
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  Speaker 1: advance to the playoffs. Okay, so that's 14 out of 32.
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  Speaker 1: So that's what, 48%, I guess?
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  Speaker 4: Yep, that's what college coaches say.
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  Speaker 3: You can't judge me on whether or not I missed
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  Speaker 3: the playoff because in the NFL it's 48%, you know?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: They got a point when you look at the SEC
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  Speaker 4: this year.
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  Speaker 1: I was listening to Colin Cowherd earlier today here on
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: 13 Under the Zone, and he was talking about how
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  Speaker 1: on average, on average, of the 14 teams that make
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: the NFL playoffs every year, six are teams that did
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  Speaker 1: not make it the year before. Yep, there's always new ones.
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  Speaker 1: So there's an average of six new ones every year.
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  Speaker 1: And by new, meaning just they weren't in it the
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  Speaker 1: year before. They might have been in it two years
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: prior to that, but they weren't in the postseason a
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: year ago. And so he had some newbies getting in
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  Speaker 1: as well as the.
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  Speaker 2: Standard, the standbys.
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  Speaker 1: So what we've done on this program in the past,
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  Speaker 1: Cameron and I did in the past, is to pick
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  Speaker 1: who we think was going to win each division, who
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  Speaker 1: would be the three wild cards, who would advance out
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: of the wild card round to the division round, and
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  Speaker 1: then who would reach the conference championships, and then.
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  Speaker 2: Who would reach the Super Bowl, and who would win
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  Speaker 2: the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: So we've done that with varying degrees of success.
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  Speaker 2: So Jake and I are going to try to do
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  Speaker 2: the same thing here. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: The first thing I'm going to ask you, we'll talk
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: about division winners, and we'll kind of go... I guess
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  Speaker 1: it would be geographically we would do this. So let
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  Speaker 1: me start with the AFC East. Get your thoughts on
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  Speaker 1: the East and who wins the East in your mind.
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  Speaker 4: I'll keep it simple.
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  Speaker 3: The Bills, I like what they did in the offseason
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  Speaker 3: in terms of giving Josh Allen a big weapon in
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 3: DJ Moore. Am I sold on the head coaching change
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  Speaker 3: being the answer to some defensive problems in the playoffs? No,
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  Speaker 3: but I think their schedule shakes out a lot more
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  Speaker 3: favorably than New England's does. And the Bills had a
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  Speaker 3: far less tumultuous offseason than the Patriots. So I'll go Buffalo.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 2: I am as well. I like it. and I'm with you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a little bit, I got a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: trepidation with the coaching change and everything there, but they still,
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  Speaker 1: I think, have the most talent in that division.
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  Speaker 4: And I know.
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  Speaker 1: New England was in the Super Bowl last year. Buffalo's
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  Speaker 1: had this thing in not being able to get over
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  Speaker 1: the hump.
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  Speaker 2: We all know that.
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  Speaker 1: I think they have, right now, on a down-by-down basis,
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  Speaker 1: the best quarterback in the AFC.
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  Speaker 3: You said the AFC? I think it's the NFL. He
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  Speaker 3: just hasn't come through and won the big one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean, there's a decent chance.
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  Speaker 1: And it's not fair to put it all on Josh Allen. But,
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  Speaker 1: by the same token, I don't know that it's, you know,
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  Speaker 1: he can be entirely blameless.
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  Speaker 2: He's made some mistakes as well. So anyway, I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to go with Buffalo. Okay. AFC North.
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  Speaker 4: I'll go Baltimore.
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  Speaker 3: One of the easiest schedules in the league. I think
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  Speaker 3: they have a sneaky coach upgrade happening here with Jesse
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 3: Minter coming over to replace John Harbaugh, who I hadn't
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  Speaker 3: been all that impressed with for the back half of
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  Speaker 3: his time in Baltimore.
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  Speaker 4: I'll go Ravens. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: And that's another team, by the way, whose quarterback is
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: going to have to put the team on his shoulders
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: a little bit because Lamar Jackson's a two-time MVP and
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: he's never even been in the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 3: He loves this new offense they've installed in the offseason.
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  Speaker 3: I've heard a lot of positive buzz from Baltimore.
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  Speaker 2: I agree. I, you know, I really debated on this.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going with Cincinnati.
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  Speaker 4: Yep, okay.
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  Speaker 2: I like them.
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  Speaker 1: I think there is one of the best quarterbacks in
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: the NFL and Joe Burrow, he's healthy and he's got
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  Speaker 1: receiving targets and, you know, I like, and they've had
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: the continuity with the coaching staff with Zach Taylor and
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: his group.
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  Speaker 2: So I like the Bengals.
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  Speaker 3: My thing there, they've really invested in the defense, right?
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 3: Everything they threw this offseason was into the defense. It
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 3: was most of their free agent budget. Dexter Lawrence comes in.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 3: Mafe comes in. That's why I like them.
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  Speaker 4: Did they fix the O-line?
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  Speaker 1: Eh, you know, we'll see how that works with that. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: AFC South. AFC South, I'm going with Houston. Jacksonville, they
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  Speaker 1: only have six home games this year.
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  Speaker 4: You know that, Craig? Because they've got a couple that
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  Speaker 4: they lose to London.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the international thing.
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  Speaker 4: That kind of tips the scales. Plus, I just think C.J.
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  Speaker 3: Stroud's bouncing back this year, and if he can be
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 3: just a little bit better, I like the Texans' chances
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  Speaker 3: to repeat and start better than they did last year.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I think this is the easiest division to
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: pick out of all of them. I'm with you. I'm
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  Speaker 1: going with the Texans as well. Stroud's got a lot
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: to prove, and with everything that happened with the contract
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: deal and all that, and also the way that he
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: ended the season.
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  Speaker 2: What was it?
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: Seven turnovers in the last two games for him, so
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: he's got some things there, but They clearly have the
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: best defense in the AFC, if not the entire NFL.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm with you on that. Okay, AFC West. This
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  Speaker 1: ought to be interesting.
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  Speaker 3: Toughest division on the board. I'm going to go with
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 3: the Los Angeles Chargers. And that's because Mike McDaniel comes
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 3: in and I think he really unlocks a new level
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 3: of Justin Herbert. I think their offensive line injuries played
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 3: a much bigger role in the woes last season in
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 3: that playoff loss of the Patriots than we realized. But, boy,
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 3: this is a tough one to pick, Craig. You could
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 3: go three directions on this.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and the direction I'm going is Denver.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously, with Bo Nix, you have the weapon there.
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  Speaker 1: I also like what the Broncos have up front in
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: their other offensive weapons as well. And I think they
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: have one of the best coaches in the NFL in
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: Sean Payton.
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  Speaker 3: You look at O-lines and D-lines and blocking and tackling.
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  Speaker 3: The Broncos do that better than anyone else. They've got,
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 3: I think, the highest floor offensively. of the three contenders
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 3: in that division. So certainly a good pick to win it.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Wild cards, wild cards. I'm going to give one to
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 3: the Broncos for some of the reasons you just mentioned.
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  Speaker 3: I'll give one to the Patriots.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: And that last wild card spot, I think the Kansas
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 3: city chiefs sneak their way in as a seven seat.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, I can see.
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  Speaker 1: I think that, uh, for me, uh, the wild cards, uh,
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  Speaker 1: I also think new England's in, and I also think
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: Baltimore will get in. You have them winning a division, uh,
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  Speaker 1: And I think Kansas City is the third one off
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  Speaker 1: of that.
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  Speaker 2: So it's very, very similar.
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  Speaker 4: Wow, so you don't have the Chargers as a playoff team.
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  Speaker 2: I don't.
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  Speaker 4: And I don't have the Bengals. There's our differences.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: All right, we'll take a break. When we come back,
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  Speaker 1: we'll shift to the NFC, and then we'll wrap up
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  Speaker 1: today's edition of the program on 13 Under the Zone. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: before we get done, we've got to get to the
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: NFC since we just had our— predictions for the coming
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: season in the AFC. So, Jake Herman, let's jump to
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: the NFC. Start with your thoughts on the NFC East.
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  Speaker 2: Who wins?
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  Speaker 4: Well, certainly not the Washington Commanders.
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  Speaker 3: I think we can probably put them down in a tier.
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  Speaker 3: I see this division with a clear top two, and
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 3: that top two includes the Philadelphia Eagles, who are trying
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 3: to keep their grip atop the division, which teams haven't
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 3: dominated the division really at all in recent stretches of
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 3: years like the eagles have done in the nfc east
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 3: i think the cowboys take it from them this year
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 3: i really do like the cowboys offseason and if the
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 3: defense it's kind of how i feel about the texans
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 3: offense if the cowboys can just get about a b
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 3: minus from their defense a c even that is going
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 3: to take them over the hump because this offense even
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 3: with the injury to smith i think is going to
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 3: be humming along uh i uh.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: I think the cowboys will be vastly improved and be
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: a playoff team but i still see the eagles winning
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: the nfc east will be my call there All right.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 2: NFC North.
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  Speaker 3: This is the hardest division to predict in the NFC
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 3: for me. And I'm going to go with the Chicago Bears,
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 3: who I know everyone's going to say the Lions have
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 3: an easier schedule, but I'm just in on Ben Johnson
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 3: and Caleb Williams. And I think the offensive breakthrough they
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 3: had last year was real.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 4: Yes, they're going to regress.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 3: They can't go through a season again with six fourth
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 3: quarter come from behind wins.
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  Speaker 4: I think they make it a little easier on themselves
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 4: this year.
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 2: I'm going to go with the Lions.
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: They're healthy. And I think that's as good as anything.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: They've got Laporta back. They've got, you know, with all
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: of the guys they have. I like the linesman. But
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: I do also see the Bears as a playoff team.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 2: NFC South?
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 3: NFC South is the division of mediocrity once again. Every
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 3: year we look at this division and think, ho-hum. You know,
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 3: what's going on out there? I am only sure about
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 3: one thing, and that is Atlanta is going to struggle.
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 3: I don't like what they've got coming into the year,
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 3: particularly at the quarterback spot. i'm gonna go ahead and
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 3: back carolina to repeat i know it was a crazy
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 3: tiebreaker that gave them the victory last year i still
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 3: believe in bryce young i've got too many concerns about
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 3: the defenses of both the bucks and the saints yeah.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with carolina as well uh you're right
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: i think defensive concerns i think new orleans will be
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: improved not enough to be a division champ all right
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: nfc west.
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 3: Out west i'm gonna go ahead and take the los
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 3: angeles rams who have what A lot of folks are
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 3: calling a dream team coming into the season with Miles
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 3: Garrett added back into the fold with the last ride
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 3: for Matthew Stafford with Puka Nakua looking unlikely to face
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 3: discipline and suspension.
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 4: I like the Rams, Craig.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do as well.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: And, you know, even though I root for that team,
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 1: I find it hard sometimes to pick them because they've
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: let me down many times in the past. But I
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: do think they have the talent. I think their coaching
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: is as good as there is in the league. I'll
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: go with the Rams. Okay, your wild cards?
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 3: The wildcard teams I have are the Detroit Lions coming
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  Speaker 3: out of the NFC North. And I think the Seattle
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  Speaker 3: Seahawks find their way back into the playoffs as well
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  Speaker 3: to try and defend that Super Bowl title.
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  Speaker 2: And one more?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, there's three, right.
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  Speaker 3: My last wildcard in the NFC, I will go with
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  Speaker 3: the Eagles. I just think there's enough wins for them
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  Speaker 3: there in the NFC East.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. All right.
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  Speaker 1: See, our stuff's kind of interchangeable. I have the Cowboys
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  Speaker 1: as a wildcard. You have them as a division winner.
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  Speaker 1: I have Chicago as a wild card. You have them
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  Speaker 1: as a division winner. And we both have Seattle in there.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: So we just have just enough time here. AFC champion.
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  Speaker 4: I'll go ahead and take the Baltimore Ravens. Jesse Minner.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going with the Buffalo Bills.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: They're going to get over the hump. NFC champion.
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  Speaker 7: Rams.
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  Speaker 1: Rams.
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  Speaker 3: I hate to put the jinx on your team, Craig.
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  Speaker 3: I know you don't like picking them, but I just
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  Speaker 3: love Miles Garrett.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do too.
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  Speaker 1: And your Super Bowl champion is?
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  Speaker 3: The Baltimore Ravens, Craig, break through and win with a
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  Speaker 3: first-year head coach in 2026.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's going to be Buffalo. I think the
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  Speaker 4: Bills finally get it done. So we both go AFC.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to go with the Buffalo Bills to win
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  Speaker 1: this in what could be a heck of a Super
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  Speaker 1: Bowl against the Rams.
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  Speaker 4: We both took first-year head coaches, Craig.
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  Speaker 2: How about that?
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  Speaker 4: And nobody took the Rams.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I thought you were for sure going to back them.
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  Speaker 1: But look what happened last year with Mike McDonald, you know,
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  Speaker 1: with Seattle. I mean, coaches who are young in the
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: tooth can win. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: If they've got the teams to do it.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I will seal these hermetically. What was in the
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: old Tonight Show, Johnny Carson, in a ported Funkin' Wagnalls
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  Speaker 1: or something like that.
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  Speaker 4: What?
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  Speaker 2: Hermetically sealed.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: That's going to wrap up for the program today. Tomorrow,
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  Speaker 1: we'll get you a little closer to kickoff. One of
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  Speaker 1: the things we're going to do, we're going to visit
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: with Cedric Goldman, the Austin American statesman.
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  Speaker 2: So Ced will visit with us.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: And Gene Watson. our MLB insider from Chicago White Sox
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: front office.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll talk some baseball as well.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks so much to Paul Keels, play-by-play voice of the
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: Ohio State Buckeyes, joining us. Now for the producer, Jay Carman,
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  Speaker 1: I'm Craig way thanking you for joining us invite you
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: to stay tuned up next bucky mbk we'll visit with
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  Speaker 1: you tomorrow afternoon at two o'clock right here on 13
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  Speaker 1: under the zone