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Episode 320= Rick and Elaine Discuss the Book of Job- Episode 22 · The Burros of Berea Podcast

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Welcome back to Rick and Elaine discuss the Bible
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and in particular the book of Job. Good afternoon.
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Hey, how you doing? How you doing? Elaine Ray
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Clark? How you doing? I'm doing fine. My brother.
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I'm doing fine. How you doing? I'm good. I still
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keep thinking I'm drifting into Sylvester Stallone.
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You know, it's like, um, let's see. Uh, how does
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he, he goes off. Hey. Hey. Adrian, Adrian. Hey,
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hey, how you doing? Oh, no, that's Joey. Yeah.
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How you doing? Hey, how you doing? Exactly. Exactly.
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How you doing? Well, you know, how are you doing?
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How are you doing? Well, I just want you to know,
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last week I got to meet your daughter and son
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-in -law through Zoom, which was really cool.
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Yeah. That was really, that was really nice of
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them. And hopefully they'll get to come to America
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someday. They're not as special as you. Let's
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just be real. You're saying all the right things
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there, Rick. I mean, you know, whether they're
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true or not, I'll just agree with it. It's rather
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nice. But again, yeah, they sort of, yeah, it's
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lovely having somebody like you and others that
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are listening, my little family out there, our
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family. And you just think to yourself, it's
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so wonderful to have people that really want
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to hear what the Bible has to say that doesn't
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really get fed up with it. that really recognizes
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it. It's a wonderful dive into the beauty of
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who God is, the essence of it, that we're trying
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to really get to the bottom of in talking about
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Job and that. And you just think that there are
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people out there that really love what we love.
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And I appreciate that so much because so many
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people over here, again, when I know I'm in Spain,
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but in England, really have nothing like the
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Americans. Nothing. Nothing. There's no one in
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England that is a pastist. You talk to them about
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it and they go, huh? Yeah. What are you on about?
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You know, they don't even know what dispensationalism
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is, really. Well, I mean, that's where it originated.
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It originated in England. Well, it did with Darby,
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but I mean, it actually started with Margaret
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McDonald, didn't it? Up in Scotland. Yeah, but
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Darby is the one that promoted that vision that
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she had of the rapture. Yeah, yes, he did. But
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again, it all it just did was it turned into
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it It basically turned into you know, you got
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the Miller rights and you got like the Seventh
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-day of Benteist the Mormons the Jehovah's Witnesses.
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That's America Yeah, exactly. Well except for
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I think didn't Jehovah's Witnesses came from
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England America. No, America. Charles Taze Russell.
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I thought yeah. Oh, okay So he's American. I
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thought he was from England and then he moved
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to America. But kind of like Darby, Darby and
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C .I. Schofield and all that stuff that happened
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in America. Regardless, the second enlightenment
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where all of the cults were born in the 1800s
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here in America. That's what I'm saying. I think
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that it all began prior to that. Do you know,
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I always forget his name. It was about 1892.
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He was discussing Having a state of Israel or
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for Israel and they actually suggested Madagascar
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at once talking about you talking about the Rothschild
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No, I'm not talking about Rothschild Rothschild
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got into there, but it was um Come to me throughout
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was he an American he was an American Jew Okay,
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yeah, I'm lost anyway back to that and that's
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what I'm saying. It's Yeah, so that's why really
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it didn't really take off in England because
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it took off in America where in England I think
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we're a little bit too sort of what can't really
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be bothered with that, you know, yeah We love
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you too busy having tea and crumpets. Yes, too
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busy holding our little fingers up like that
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Yeah, more tea vicar more tea vicar. Yeah You
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know, it's like Pink Floyd that came from England
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had a song called Time off the Dark Side of the
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Moon album. And one of the lines in that song
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was, hear the softly spoken magic spells. It's
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talking about religion in England and how it's
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softly spoken and how you're just kind of droned
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out. Well, the thing is, it's like you take these
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people that like these big directors that have
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got real movers and shakers. Look at Aaron Spelling.
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Now, I mean, Aaron is a priest. He was the first
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high priest. And yet spelling is casting spells.
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That's what you do when you put films out there.
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So he's a high priest of casting spells with
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films. Wow. That's, that's interesting. Can I
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leave some information in the comments about
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what you think about that? Yeah, there's quite,
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there's quite a few of them, Rick, when you sort
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of like, when you sort of like mash their names
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down. There's really quite a, there's hidden
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in plain sight, Rick. Wow. That's awesome. That's
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good stuff. I like that. Alright so here's what
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we're going to get into the comments this i've
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got a hard stop in an hour today because of work
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i wanted to give everybody an update i've gotten
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a new customer i have a customer meeting today
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for another new customer i haven't had a day
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off in almost fifteen days and i'm exhausted
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but it's okay my ox cart was in the ditch and
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i was digging him out i didn't put in there.
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I didn't put him in the ditch. It drove itself
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into the ditch. And so I'm thankful to the Lord
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that I've been able to work. But I've also been
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studying the scriptures and I had this enlightenment
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that came to me in regard to the book of Job,
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in regard to my widow's might study, in regard
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to my discussions with Elaine in the covenant.
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There's a lot of things that I'm going to bring
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out today, but I just wanted everybody to know.
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And this is the whole thing, isn't it, Rick?
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But once you start and this is what you this
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is all this is studying. This is what you and
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I talking is all about. It really is sort of
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like opening up scriptures and then all of a
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sudden linking others because you've actually
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hit the head on that particular one. That's right.
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Yeah, that is the key now to the others. I didn't
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really quite understand. That's right. And that's
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the study of the widow. Mine and your study of
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Genesis. And looking at Matthew twenty seven
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the resurrection of the saints as well as looking
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at the story of job they all actually connect
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in a very unique way I did and the Lord opened
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up. My eyes literally this morning cuz I knew
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I had this coming I was. I had been reading it,
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but I was working so much. I haven't been able
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to even open my Bible. I mean, I'm talking like
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12 hour or 13 hour days. And so I just come home
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and I take a shower and collapse in the bed.
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That's what it's been like. But it's because
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I have work and I'm very thankful. So the Lord
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is turning my business around. We're coming up
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out of the ashes and it's it's he's working me
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and a man who does not work will not eat and
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I've learned that heavily In my business before
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I was more of the guy sitting behind the desk
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now I'm doing everything so I'm happier than
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I've ever been Still in the midst of a lot of
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trouble, but I'm happy and I'm thankful. I'm
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blessed So I everybody thank you for your prayers
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I'm gonna get into the comments that you did
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our last study and then we're gonna get into
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this week And this one is going to be in my opinion
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A big one. I think it's going to be very eye
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-opening for most of you. It was for me and the
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Lord gave it to me. This is not me. The Lord,
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I give God the credit. He opened my eyes to the
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scriptures and by the Holy Spirit this morning
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as I was praying about it. And I'm so excited
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to get into today. All right. I don't know because
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I haven't got any notes. Well, you know what?
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I didn't send notes because I didn't have time
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to write any. I didn't know. I'm not saying that.
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I'm just letting the audience know. Yeah, it'd
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be nice if you when you start saying stuff. Whether
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we're on the same page anyway. Yeah. So Elaine's
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going to be right where you guys are. She hasn't
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heard a word of this and Elaine, I can't wait
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for you to hear it because I, when you see these
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connections, you're, I think you're going to
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love this. All right. So let's get into the comments
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this week. Tony driver. Hi, Tony. Hi, Tony. She
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said, Rick, I was off Tuesday before the conference.
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And I'm off today, too. I didn't see the email
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address, but I may have missed it somewhere.
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She's talking about me putting your email address
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in the comments. Oh, bless her. Thank you, Tony,
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because I went back in and I edited my post.
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I would like that because I don't get any comments.
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I feel like a little sort of like a little outsider.
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I feel like that. So guys, please email Elaine
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Rae Clark. OK, Elaine Rae Clark. So here's her
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address. You guys ready? Write it down. Elaine
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dot Clark five six at outlook dot com that's
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e la in e dot cl a r k five six at Outlook dot
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com write her a personal message would you guys
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because I know you're listening and I know you're
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watching your Viking comments right or a little
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note be really nice Lister spirits come on. She's
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alone out there in Spain. All right here we go
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Tony says, great study again today. One thing
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that really stood out to me was how Job moves
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from defending his outward actions to examining
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the integrity of his inner life before God. It
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really shows that true wisdom and righteousness
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go deeper than what people can see on the outside.
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Looking forward to next week. That is true. And
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what we're going to learn today is that his introspective
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look still doesn't quite get there. Elaine was
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actually touching on this. Um, and I can't I
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wasn't really rejecting her but I was trying
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to push it off Until we got to a lie who but
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but you're you're you've been spot on elaine
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this whole time. Yes All right. So the next one
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comes from dina thompson. Hi dina. Hi dina All
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right. Hello family. Hello Hello family. I love
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this so much less. Hello family. I know And I'm
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hoping for more Old Testament books to be discussed.
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Might I suggest one that my very favorite Bible
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verse comes from? Zephaniah, just a thought for
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the future. Okay, listen, you just told us your
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favorite verse was from Zephaniah. How about
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you share it in the comments and tell us what
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that verse was. Exactly. We don't know, do we?
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No. And here's what she says. I was reminded
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of an MMA fighter, a mixed martial arts fighter,
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during this episode. His name was Kimbo Slice.
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I know him very well. I remember Kimbo Slice.
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He made a play on the word enemy one time in
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an interview. Listen to this, Elaine. This is
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cool. He said the inner me is the enemy. Then
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he stated it correctly and said the inner me.
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Yes. The enemy. This is what I see happening.
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Yeah. Very great, Nina. Uh, I cannot, or he says,
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uh, this is what I see happening with Job. He
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is correct in stating that he is righteous, but
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he focuses on him rather than him. Amen. That's
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good. Very good. And some things don't change,
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Dina. You're right, Dina. And we're going to
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be touching on this today. It's fascinating.
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I cannot tell you how many times I have done
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the same and still fall into it even now. Me
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too. Me too. There you go. I just said that.
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It's the same. Yep. Yep. Thankfully, we're all
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on the same page. This is our little family.
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Thankfully, God corrects my thinking and reminds
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me the inner me is the inner me. And if my eyes
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are not in him, I'm sinking under the water.
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Yes. Very good. Well done. Excellent, Dina. Thank
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you both for sharing your personal struggles
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and for bringing out the fact that Job was a
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fallen human just like us. I think we sometimes
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forget that these saints struggled too. I appreciate
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you both. Rick. Bless you. We appreciate you,
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Dina. We do appreciate you. Rick, I can never
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thank you enough for what you have done for me
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and Alan. Guys, I haven't done anything for you.
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Y 'all have done it for me. I've just been bringing
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attention to you guys. Yeah, for us. And Elaine,
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thank you for your word studies and bringing
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scripture to life. Oh, bless your heart. That's
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what that's what it's all about, Dina. It's living.
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The word is alive. Yes, it is. Here's what is
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alive. If you're not bubbling up, it's dead.
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It's not happening. That's right. Absolutely.
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And that's what happened to me this morning.
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I cannot wait to hug you, she says. Oh, that's
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so sweet. I can't wait to hug you either. I know
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it happened in August. It will. It's coming.
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Love you both. My sweet brother and sister with
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a giant heart. We love you too, Dina. And we
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love your husband, Alan, very much. All right.
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This is awesome. All right. This comes from Heather
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Lynn Ross. Hey Heather. That's right. That was
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the first one that we had, wasn't it? A couple
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of weeks ago. Yeah. Here she go. You're right.
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How you doing? Hey, how you doing? How you doing
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Heather? How you doing? You guys are inside though,
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looking a little bit sort of, you know, yeah,
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that's it. That's it. Yeah. All right. She says,
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Hey y 'all. Hi y 'all. Hi y 'all. How y 'all
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doing out there? Yeah. You got a great Southern
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accent. You're so good. I might use the rest
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of the study in my Southern accent. I want you
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to do it when you come over here. I want you
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to talk like, uh, I think I will talk, but you
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think that, uh, no, I think they'll find that
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my accent is English underneath. Really? They
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will. They'll find it. All right. What a great.
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What a great study this week. She capitalized
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these. I cannot wait to meet you, Elaine. August
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can't get here fast enough. Oh, Lord, this is
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so wonderful to be wanted. I've always been rejected
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by churches in England. Get her out, get her
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out. And you don't realize how wonderful it is
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to actually be loved and wanted. It's a totally
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different aspect of meeting my brothers and sisters.
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Yeah, I've been rejected and pushed out so many
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churches. what I think and speaking up for what
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I think, not in a nasty, unkind way, but, you
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know, if somebody says something, I feel that
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if the time is right to say it, that, yeah, but,
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and that makes me, Heather, you don't know how
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much that makes me feel loved. And it's almost
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like God has brought me into your lives to say,
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darling, you are loved. Here are those brothers
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and sisters that do love you. That's so sweet.
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Thank you so much. Thank you, Lord, for that.
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Yes, thank you. All right She goes on and says
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I find it very interesting that it's sometimes
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the young snappers in the Bible that somehow
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call things like they are You're right Heather,
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and we're gonna get into that today He really
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Rick he really blew people away with the knowledge
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he had but even today that's still true I know
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for me I'm very fortunate to have a younger brother
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who's very knowledgeable in the Bible and I tend
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to find myself calling him and asking him questions
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It really goes to show that there's nothing new
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to the sun. All right, listen. So Elaine, her
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younger brother, his name is Cameron, Cameron
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Driver, the second, and he's married to a young
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woman named Jaylen. And I got to meet I've met
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them before, but they came to the conference.
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I got to see him at the conference. They have
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a little baby named Cameron Driver, the third.
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We were talking about Heather. We are talking
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about Heather. Heather's younger brother is Cameron.
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Is Cameron Driver? Cameron Driver, the second.
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But is he related to Tony Driver, then? Yes,
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Heather is Tony's daughter. Now you know the
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connection. Now watch this. So Heather, I didn't
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tell you, I guess. I'm sorry. Sorry, Heather.
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I didn't put it all together. So you got Tony
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and Cameron driver, the parents, then you have
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Heather and Cameron driver, the second, who are
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brother and sister. Cameron is married to Jaylen
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who has a little baby named Cameron driver, the
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third. Right. Heather is married to a young man
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by the name of Cody, who's Bible studying with
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her right now. And they all are going to meet
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you in August. Now, listen, Cameron, the second,
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her brother is going to be speaking at the church.
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He's teaching at the church, preaching, really,
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I guess you would say as a preacher on Memorial
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Day weekend. And I'm going to be there. I'm going.
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I'm going. When's that? I think it's I think
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it's next. Let me see. I think Memorial Day.
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When is Memorial Day? Memorial Day is next. No,
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actually it's the 31st. He's speaking on the
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31st. So it's not Memorial Day weekend. It's
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the 31st. So Cameron, driver of the second is
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speaking on the 31st. All right. So anyway, let
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me get back to her comment. I just wanted you
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to know that's how they're all connected. So
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now you'll get to meet them all. She said, can't
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wait to hear next week's episode. Keep up the
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great work. Thank you guys. For listening and
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I'm super excited to have everybody meet Elaine
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I got to meet her in person. She said I know
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it'd be lovely. Yeah, honestly, you know, oh
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I can't wait I mean yes to be surrounded by brothers
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and sisters who have the same faith same belief
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and same the love and passion Passion. Yes, that's
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what the English it's all really. Yeah passion
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not a lot of passion going on right? That's right.
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All right Let's get into the study now Thanks
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for closing up shortly. Look, I'm getting all
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up in here in your grill. Look in my eyes. Look
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in my eyes. Hello. Look into my eyes, into my
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not around my eyes. All right, guys. So during
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the say something, Elaine and do that again.
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Hello. Hello. So. I have throughout the course
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of this study. I have been trying to on a personal
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level. It doesn't matter It doesn't matter but
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on a personal level and trying to figure out
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like when was this written? Like why was this
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written? When was this written? It's obvious
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that these people are not in the covenant line
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If you think that they are they're not but you're
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gonna see covenant themes throughout it's and
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there's a reason why and I've said I think it
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might have been written by Solomon or it could
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be the post Okay, I've landed I've landed. I
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think I know when it was written. The eagle has
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landed. It was written post exile. This story
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was written post exile. It's about possibly a
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real human being and what happened outside. And
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I think that I think it could be somebody like
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Daniel. Now when you say post exile, you talking
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about Babylonian, the Babylonian exile. All right,
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hold on a second. You just froze up. I want to
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check something. Yeah, okay. We're good. It's
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not you. It was me. My daughter was bringing
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me Rick. Oh, okay. It's fine All right. So listen,
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I think it was written post -exile now and I
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think that it could have been somebody like a
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Daniel figure because There's something that
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that when I was talking to the Lord about it
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this morning. I was like Lord This one character
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a lie who kind of like blows my mind because
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it doesn't make any sense I went and researched
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all of the scholars who've read your theologians.
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I've read all this stuff and none of it makes
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sense to me and I'm like This is so weird and
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I'll try to remember her name This woman wrote
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an article and I was like, I think she was the
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closest to it This is a story of how God brings
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you to himself and this is a story about how.
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God uses his covenant people to tell the story
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to get you to him the high priest is the one
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that communicates on behalf right and we know
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who the greatest high priest that ever lived
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is he still alive today and he's on the throne.
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Jesus Christ if you didn't. Pick up my drift.
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Oh, you won't talk to me then, Rick, were you
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surely? No, no, I'm not talking to you. You know,
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Elaine, Rick Clark. All right. They would have
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got it. They're not numpties. No. All right.
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So what I'm about to say, the first thing I'm
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going to do before I get into it is I'm going
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to have Elaine read the first chapter where Elihu
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begins to speak. OK, let me pull it up in my
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Bible. It should be Job, Chapter 32. Yes, chapter
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32. All right. If you would, Elaine, I would
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like for you to read all 22 verses of Job, chapter
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32. And then I'm going to then I'm going to show
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you guys what the Lord showed me and then see
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if you guys pick up what I'm laying down. OK,
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so out of nowhere, here comes this young man.
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Right. So these three men stop trying to answer
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Job. because he remained convinced of his own
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righteousness. But then the anger of Elihu, the
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son of Barahel, the boozy from the family of
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Ram, blazed up against Job for thinking he was
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right and God wrong. His anger also blazed up
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against his three friends because they had found
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no answer to Job but condemned him anyway. There's
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an empty seat there. Elihu had waited to speak
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to Job because they were older than he was. However,
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when Elihu saw that these three had no answer,
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his anger flared up. Elihu, the son of Barakhel,
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the boozy, said, I am young and you are old.
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So I held back from telling you my opinion. I
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said age should speak and abundance of years
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should teach wisdom. But it is the spirit in
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a person, the breath from Shaddai that gives
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him understanding. It isn't only the great who
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are wise or the aged who know how to judge. Therefore,
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I say, listen to me. I too will express my opinion.
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Here, I waited for your words. Listen to your
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reasonings as you were searching for what to
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say. I paid attention to you, but none of you
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convicted Job or refuted his arguments. So don't
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say we found the wise cause. Let God defeat him,
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not a human being, for he did not direct his
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words against me. and i won't answer him with
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your arguments they are confused they don't reply
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words have failed them but must i wait just because
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they don't speak just because they stand there
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stuck for an answer no i will now give you my
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answer i too would express my opinion for i am
22:50
full of words the spirit within me compels me
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yes my insides feel like new wine under pressure
22:57
like new wine skins, ready to burst. I must speak
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to find relief. I will open my lips and answer.
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I will show no favor to anyone, and I will flatter
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no one. I don't know how to flatter. If I did,
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my maker would soon put an end to me. Was I ravier
23:16
enough? Was I angry enough? Did I sound angry?
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You weren't angry, and it was fine, but you were
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very pointed, and I think that's important. Well,
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I could have shouted and ranted and raved, but
23:24
that didn't seem appropriate. Would you turn
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over to chapter one real quick and hold your
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place in chapter 32 chapter one of Joe? Okay
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All right guys So I'm gonna show y 'all how I
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when I say I I'm gonna give all credit to the
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Lord Absolutely, this is not me this directly
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Holy Spirit. Well, let's just hope it's right
23:46
I didn't read it in a book. You'll see you guys
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will see all right read read The first verse
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of Job one. There was a man in the land of us
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whose name was Job. This man was blameless and
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upright. He feared God and shunned evil. OK,
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so right out of the gate, a man who fears God
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shuns evil from the land of us. In our early
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study, we were trying to figure out where it
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is. I told you where I think it is. He is from
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the land. So these three men stopped trying to
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answer Job because he remained convinced. of
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his own righteousness okay so the first thing
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before before when it says right here that these
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men ceased just to answer job because he was
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righteous in his own eyes okay so remember he
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was righteous and he's shoot evil for chapter
25:04
one verse one he was righteous now they're saying
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he's righteous in his own eyes and then read
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the next verse chapter verse two of chapter one
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oh no chapter 32 okay But then the anger of Elihu,
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the son of Barakhel, the Buzi from the family
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of Ram, blazed up against Jo for thinking he
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was right and God wrong. All right. The son of
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Barakhel, the Buzite. It's very interesting.
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Buz, Buzite, Buz, Uz and Buz. Those were the
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sons of Nahor. Then you go to Barakhel and you're
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from the tribe of Ram. If you follow all of the
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descendants. It's coming through Nahor. Okay.
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So it's definitely not a covenant people that
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we're dealing with here, but God is a covenant
25:51
God and he's going to show these people something
25:55
unique. Now here's where I went when I was praying
25:58
to the Lord. I was like, why, why is this? Why
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did you put this in and out of nowhere? Not nowhere
26:05
from him. If I'm wrong, strike me down. This
26:08
came from the Lord. Okay. Here we go. I believe
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this was written during post -exile. I think
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it's after Babylonian exile and most likely when
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they're about to head back to land, okay? After
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the time of Esther, Nehemiah, Ezra time when
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there's a lot of wisdom that's coming up. Ezra
26:26
could have written this. Daniel during the Babylonian
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exile. These wise men who God's covenant people
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were pushing through. Because I want you to see
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this story as a total arc. Watch this. You start
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off with the righteous man. In my opinion, he's
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the representation of Israel. He is a representation
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of Israel. And, notice how many children he has.
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He has seven sons and three daughters. The women
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on the Nahorian side, women count as tribal leaders,
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okay? It's wild. It can happen. It does not happen
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so much so on the Abrahamic line, where it's
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patriarchal only, but some of the other quote,
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pagan societies. But what's important is that
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he has 10 children. And what happens after he's
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judgment comes, 10 children are dead. That's
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representative of the nation of Israel, the kingdom.
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I know that. I know that. We've talked about
27:27
that now. Job is still israel he's remaining
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in time as israel okay while he's in the midst
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of his suffering you have how many friends come
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to visit him. How many three not four yet three
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through all this point alright i want you to
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i want to show you where israel is. For four
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hundred and thirty years israel is in egypt.
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That's eliphaz. Then the kingdom of Israel. They
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are taken out and scattered by Assyria Assyria
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holds the people from that time until the time
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of Christ will Christ will come and get them
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out He'll call them out. Okay, and then the third
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and final Remember to build add the Shuite That's
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Assyria the third one Babylon Babylon now, this
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is wild. Okay The wisdom from each one of these
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are baked into the cake of Israel. That's why
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whenever Job, who is representational of Israel,
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is sitting amongst these three friends over time
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and he's gaining, he's hearing their wisdom,
28:44
he said, I already know all of this. There's
28:46
something more. I already know all of this, something
28:47
more. I've heard this before. You guys are mocking
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me. You're, you're missing something. You're
28:52
missing something. It's wonky. That's what this
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story has been showing you so far, right? And
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that's always the issue with Israel. Israel is
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taken into captivity. They learn and they get
29:03
things. You can take Israel out of Egypt, but
29:05
you couldn't get Egypt out of the Israel. That's
29:07
what Jesus discovered. You put Israel in with
29:10
Assyria, and they become the Samaritans. You
29:13
can get the Israel into Samaria, but you can't
29:14
get the Samaria out of Israel. You put them in
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Babylon, guess what? Judah was taken in Babylon,
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and you couldn't get Babylon out of the Judah.
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In fact, many of them remain there. That's right.
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Thank you. Now, from Babylon, when you hear Daniel,
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Daniel tells a story from where you got Babylon,
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then you have Greece, then you have, no, no,
29:37
hold on. Babylon, Greece, the Medo -Persians.
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Babylon, Medo -Persians, Greeks, Rome. You start
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watching Israel being carried into all of these
29:47
things, right? Rome. What is it? Babylon, Medo
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-Persia, Greece, Rome. The Messiah. Now, when
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Job is sitting amongst his friends hearing all
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this wisdom, then he finally sees talking out
30:04
of nowhere. Boom! Somebody shows up upon the
30:08
scene and is angry and starts saying things.
30:11
That should sound like somebody. Do you know
30:13
what it sounds like? This is all Christ. It is,
30:17
but watch this. This is the prophet class. a
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lie who represents the prophet class okay and
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what that means is as israel is going through
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time in the midst of all of these things they're
30:30
letting the cultures and all of that stuff begin
30:32
to affect them they know that they're the one
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true son of god israel is however through the
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descendants of abraham we are the sons of abraham
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they say that all the time right we know that
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they're the one true son of god of yahweh but
30:45
it was it was always in faith it was never because
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of blood that's the point the remnant that remained
30:51
with him was in faith right it was not about
30:52
blood it's the remnant but here's the point just
30:55
like in the northern tribes when elijah shows
30:57
up on the scene and boom against ahab and jezebel
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he's bringing it right what ha let me ask you
31:04
this question what happened to elijah at the
31:07
end of his life carried away in what chariot
31:12
in what And what lefties man whirlwind whirlwind
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whirlwind. So what you should see most of you
31:23
guys have read job i'm not you sure know the
31:26
end of the story alive who comes on the scene
31:28
for five chapters and then god speaks from the
31:31
whirlwind. So elijah and ally who are very similar
31:35
in that regard okay now. Very similarly in the
31:39
New Testament you have four hundred years a darkness
31:41
period where no nothing there's no revelation
31:44
from God no prophet class then up out of the
31:47
wilderness comes who. Who's Elijah exactly in
31:53
the spirit and power of Elijah according to Jesus
31:55
so what's really unique is that a lie who is
31:58
kind of a representation of like an Isaiah of
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a Jeremiah really funny let me look I think Jeremiah
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chapter forty nine verse seven. Uh, this is really
32:07
cool Jeremiah chapter 49 verse 7 we are you looking
32:13
it up Elaine? There my 49 verse 7. Yeah 49 verse
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7 Jeremiah 49 verse 7. Yeah, I want you to I
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want you guys to notice something too about Jeremiah
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Okay, Jeremiah How old was he? Very young Yes,
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he was young. He was a young whippersnapper,
32:33
right? Heather, you got it. So Jeremiah, when
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he is the young buck, he comes up, he's angry.
32:38
He stands at the gate of the temple to get to
32:40
the city and he's like calling them out. Right.
32:43
All right. Listen to what he says in chapter
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forty nine. Seven. Seven. Right, says concerning
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Edom, this is what Adonai Tzvot says. Is there
32:55
no wisdom left in T -Man? Have her wise men forgotten
32:59
how to counsel? Has their wisdom vanished? Huh.
33:04
That's interesting. Did it, what did it say?
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Is wisdom no more in Taman? T -men? Okay. Otherwise
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men forgotten how to counsel. Has their wisdom
33:17
vanish? Yes. So let's go into, um, whoops. I
33:27
want to go into, Oh, Job chapter three, I believe
33:31
it is. Let me find it. No, we gotta get to her
33:36
and the friends. I want you to look in Job chapter
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four, verse one. Job chapter four, verse one,
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Elaine. I'm sorry we're doing a Bible drill,
33:45
but I gotta connect this for you guys, okay?
33:48
Remember, Job chapter 49, verse seven says, is
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there no longer any wisdom in Timon? Right. Job
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chapter four, verse one. That's one if one tries
33:58
to speak to you. Will you mind? Yeah, who could
34:02
keep from speaking? No job chapter four verse
34:04
one Then alif as the Tim and I spoke up. Oh what?
34:11
Elif as the what? Tim a night. Yeah, come on.
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Is there no longer any wisdom in Timon? No, that's
34:20
what that's what Jeremiah is saying in job chapter
34:22
or Jeremiah 49 7 ok That when I saw that when
34:26
I saw Jeremiah say that I was in the widow's
34:29
mites and I used Jeremiah chapter 7 in my study
34:32
that I did at Berean and I talked about you know
34:35
when you see what happens to wisdom and the orphan
34:39
and the stranger It's you know, it tells you
34:42
where the righteousness level is for the nation.
34:44
It's a it's a test indicator And so when I saw
34:47
this, is there no longer any wisdom in Timan?
34:50
It really clicked with me and I was like, oh,
34:53
wow, this is a wisdom book, but it's about something
34:55
unique. It's about the wisdom of God. It's about
34:57
how God brings you to himself. It only happens
35:02
when God does it, when God does it for you. So
35:06
what happens in every case when you have when
35:09
you have Israel in Egypt, God sends Moses a prophet.
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When you have Israel in the midst of struggle
35:17
in the northern kingdom and the southern kingdom
35:19
as they have begun to split Sorry, I'm drinking
35:23
soda. So I had gas So I don't you carry on. I'm
35:26
just I'm just trying to run through my head on
35:28
it. Just so I'll I'll get it totally connected.
35:32
I just I have to carry you through this part
35:34
so then when you have When you have in Assyria,
35:38
who do you have? Isaiah out of nowhere. Boom,
35:41
here comes Isaiah. He starts telling them what's
35:43
going to happen and Assyria will take them away,
35:45
right? Then you have during the time of Ahab,
35:49
you have the time of Jezebel, you have Elijah
35:52
that shows up. And then right before their destruction,
35:54
you have a little young whippersnapper, angry
35:57
Jeremiah coming and saying, because you have
36:01
done this, basically, and every one of them says,
36:05
You have taken away the widow's cause. You're
36:08
not pleading their case anymore. You're making
36:11
the spoils of the fatherless. You have all of
36:15
me. You have me as your covenant God and you
36:17
have all of my words and the oracles and all
36:19
of the best things. Things that Paul will say,
36:21
this is what makes Israel so great. This was
36:24
a promise. This was a promise. This was the oracle.
36:26
That's what makes them so great. What's the benefit
36:28
of being in Israel? Much in every way, because
36:30
they had all of the things that God gave them.
36:32
The problem was, and Job as well has it all.
36:37
Job's got it all. Even the wisdom, but he's missing
36:41
something. He is. I don't have to go through
36:45
all of that in my head because it's quite a sort
36:47
of what you're connecting here. But for me, the
36:51
simplistic version of all of it is that it is
36:55
always the youngest and the second that takes
36:59
precedence and has the wisdom. Yes, the older
37:03
show no matter what you go through, you can go
37:05
through the first Adam and the second Adam. Well,
37:09
who's the one that's going to win the second
37:11
you go through a cane enable a label was the
37:15
second and yet he was more righteous than his
37:18
brother who was the first that you can go through
37:20
to Abraham. You can go through to Isaac. You
37:23
can go through to Jacob. You can go through to
37:25
all of them it's all about that the first covenant
37:27
was never going to cut the mustard it was always
37:30
the second i mean i i thought it was interesting
37:32
there where it says there in verse 19 it says
37:35
yes my insides feel like new wine under pressure
37:38
like new wine skins ready to burst and i just
37:41
think it reminds me of jesus when he said you
37:43
don't put old wine into old wine skins because
37:46
the old wine is the first it's always the second
37:49
if new wine goes into new wine skins then nothing
37:52
will burst This is the way he's doing it. So
37:55
again, it's always the second. You know, the
37:58
first bride was Eve. The second bride is the
38:01
church. Always the second. It wasn't Ishmael
38:03
that should have got it. He was 13 when Isaac
38:05
was born. But God said, no, the second. You know,
38:07
it's always the younger. Even with Joseph, with
38:12
Manasseh and Ephraim, it should have been Manasseh.
38:14
Even Joseph said to his father, no, no, no, no.
38:16
You crossed your hands and got it wrong. It wasn't.
38:19
He said, I know what I'm doing. I know what I'm
38:21
doing. And what's interesting about that as well
38:23
is to follow through on what you're saying, is
38:25
that Abraham turned around and said to Joseph,
38:28
he said, these two children that you had in it,
38:31
and his wife was Egyptian. She was Egyptian.
38:33
So his children would have been half Egyptian.
38:36
So he turns around and says, these two sons of
38:39
yours are not yours anymore. They're mine. They're
38:42
my son. Anything that comes out of your loins
38:45
after that are yours, but these two are mine.
38:47
So he's linking these two of Egypt. to himself.
38:51
It's incredibly fascinating. Ephraim gets the
38:54
sort of like the pat on the head, where Manasseh
38:56
doesn't. And yet, you look in Revelation, Manasseh's
38:59
put back in there, but Ephraim's not there. It
39:03
ties in all the way through. You've got this
39:05
young man that's coming up now, that's got more
39:08
sense than any of them. And it's like Christ,
39:11
you know, he's got more sense than any of these
39:12
ones. And like you said, that, you know, they
39:14
had the law, they had the prophets, they had
39:17
these people that would come to them, and yet
39:19
God would send nobody's basically nobody's little
39:23
tiny people that were insignificant to go and
39:25
tell them but what did they do they rejected
39:27
them all the time rejected them rejected them
39:30
rejected them and it's the same thing even through
39:33
job you've got these ones that are supposed to
39:35
be sort of in this position but instead of like
39:38
you know assessing the situation as you would
39:41
do if you had all these understanding all this
39:43
understanding and knowledge They didn't. All
39:45
they just did was become self -righteous and
39:48
condemn Job for something that God was teaching
39:50
him. God was taking him further and further and
39:53
further out into, it's like we said before, that,
39:58
you know, the walls of understanding God get
40:00
to the point where you end up in revelation.
40:03
You're in the new covenant arrangement and there
40:06
are no, there's no, there's no temple there.
40:08
And why? There's no walls anymore. It's all complete,
40:12
it's done. So again, I would agree with you there.
40:15
I don't quite know about the, but I'd have to
40:17
look into that, but the connections you're making
40:20
are valid. All I'm trying to show you, if I didn't
40:23
do it well, I'm just trying to show you a covenant
40:25
story. I'm trying to show you that God had a
40:29
plan all along to carry Israel. It starts with
40:33
Adam and it ends with Christ and he shows you
40:36
the pattern. The pattern keeps repeating itself.
40:38
But what's unique is that post -exile, as they're
40:44
coming back to the land with Ezra and Nehemiah,
40:46
some of her coming back and they're trying to
40:48
rebuild the temple. They're trying to get this
40:49
going. The kingdom of Judah is still operating
40:52
after 400 years, after 400 years of this, by
40:57
the time John the Baptist shows up. Now, when
40:59
you say that, when you say Under 400 years you're
41:03
talking about what under 400 years of what 400
41:06
years from the time of Malachi to the time of
41:08
John the Baptist Yes, I understand that but you
41:10
say they're operating under what a particular
41:12
regime or a particular temple system The temple
41:16
system they're operating under the temple system.
41:19
Okay, so they have the temple system. They have
41:21
the sacrifices They have the the oracles of God
41:24
the law of the prophets. They've got all this
41:25
stuff and by the time you get to John the Baptist
41:29
time They're in oppression under the fourth kingdom,
41:34
which Daniel tells all about. They're in the
41:36
oppression of the fourth kingdom. The Messiah
41:37
is lifted up at that time. He lives, he's cut
41:40
off, he goes to the father on the throne. This
41:44
story, not only is it repeating itself, but it's
41:47
actually pointing to the Christ. All of this
41:50
is about Christ, 100%. 100%. You when you see
41:54
a lie who in the job study it's important to
41:56
see him as a profit class alive is young he's
42:01
the older shall serve the younger, lfas bill
42:04
dad and so far representations of old wisdom
42:08
wisdom from from people like egypt wisdom from
42:12
the assyrians who are brutal wisdom from the
42:16
the the point of. So far even or even really
42:20
break just wisdom of their own again that the
42:22
law was supposed to sort of like you were supposed
42:24
to sort of make attain Oneness with God through
42:28
your own ability. So therefore even that would
42:31
have just followed through I'm just showing you
42:35
how I'm trying to show you how it's Israel's
42:37
story, but he's telling it outside of the covenant
42:40
people. Yes, yes. I understand. It's like an
42:43
allegory. It's like if you're sitting down and
42:44
somebody gives you an allegory or one of Aesop's
42:47
fables and you learn a lesson, right? Let's talk
42:50
about this like the hare and the tortoise. Everybody
42:54
knows that story. Who wins the race? Slow and
42:58
steady wins the race. That's the lesson, right?
43:01
Job is like the hair and the tortoise for Israel.
43:05
Job is a story that tells this really in -depth
43:07
covenant story. Now, isn't it funny? I think
43:10
the hair and the tortoise is about the sun and
43:12
the moon because it's always, always looks behind,
43:15
but then as the sun catches round it goes quicker.
43:18
It always ends up behind it. Yes, that's good.
43:21
Then it might surpass it. Then it ends up behind
43:23
it. Yes. That's where I think he's, the thing
43:27
he's going back to there is he's talking about
43:29
something. Sort of that's good i i never thought
43:32
of it that way but see that's the beauty of wisdom
43:34
language or wisdom or fables or all these stories
43:37
right but i get exactly what you're saying rick
43:40
one hundred percent i understand i was trying
43:42
to ascertain What you were saying, it wasn't
43:44
because you weren't explaining it properly, is
43:46
I need time. I'm not going to go, yeah, that's
43:48
right. I need to see where you're coming. Now
43:50
I see where you're coming from. And I would say
43:53
- You boiled it down. You boiled that potato
43:55
way down really, really fast. You're like the
43:57
older sort of the younger and they're going to
43:58
follow. Like, yes, new wine and the new wineskins.
44:01
Yes, that's the lesson. Of course. You just build
44:05
it down to its goods. But how are you getting
44:06
there in this? I understand perfectly now what
44:08
you're saying. And I would say that that was
44:10
- That was that was history and prophecy written
44:13
within the story. And what's really unique. OK,
44:16
this is this is what really was mind blowing
44:18
to me, because when I was talking to Lord about
44:19
it, I was like, Lord, I don't understand. Like,
44:21
why are you doing it through Nahor? And then
44:23
suddenly I realized where they were from. Where
44:25
were Nahor and Abraham originally from or of
44:28
the Chaldees? Do you know they are the Babylonians?
44:31
They are. So they're the Babylonians. So what's
44:35
going on by the time you get to the third eggs
44:38
or the third? What Zophar would represent in
44:44
the story is Babylon where Daniel and Ezekiel
44:47
are and they're telling the future of what's
44:49
happening to Old Covenant Israel and how it's
44:51
going to be brought in by the new second Adam.
44:56
I don't even think that that would give you a
44:59
time date there really, Rick. I just think that
45:01
because we know that, we're assuming it. but
45:04
again prophecy is something that you don't quite
45:06
understand it's like you know 200 years somebody
45:08
will rise up well they didn't know Cyrus at the
45:10
time they didn't know who he was going to be
45:12
so i think that what you're saying is i don't
45:14
think we still know exactly the time period but
45:17
i think the prophecy was definitely written into
45:19
it oh it doesn't matter yeah it doesn't matter
45:21
when the book of Job was written That's me. Rick
45:25
Welch likes to get into the nitty gritty and
45:28
see if he can figure stuff out, like putting
45:29
together a puzzle. I mean, I like, I do like
45:31
that as well, but I think that that's, I mean,
45:34
I've tried to look at the nitty gritty of it
45:36
and find out, but I've given up that really,
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because not that I think if anybody else wants
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to keep looking into it, but I think that what
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you've just brought out there is the most important
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part. It's always about the younger. It's always
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about what leads up to it. It's always about,
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you know, it's... It goes back to Adam, it really
45:54
all goes back to the Garden of Eden. It is paradise
45:56
lost and paradise regained. And that's the whole
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thing. And like I say, you know, like you said
46:01
about Egypt, about bringing, I mean, we know
46:03
that Christ is the story of it. And do you know
46:04
what I was thinking about that the other day?
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You see our connections, you know, you're just
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talking about Egypt. I was thinking the other
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day, Lord, you know, heaven knows what came into
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my mind. I was thinking about Ramesses, Ramesses.
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And I'm thinking about, you know, why has he
46:18
got those cross things over him as stuff like
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that? And then I went onto a Hebrew site, and
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I was saying, well, what is Ramses? What is Ramses?
46:28
And I love chopping words up. This is what I
46:31
do. So I'm thinking, well, he's the sun king.
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Well, and who's the sun king is Ra. Well, if
46:39
you cut it in half, you go Ra, Moses, Ra, Moses.
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It's the sun, sun. That's what he is. He's the
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son of the sun. yeah moses was found and they
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didn't know who his father was so instead of
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saying he was the son of so -and -so they just
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called him moses so he's just son that's what
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she called him son so you had moses which is
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the son of the son but because you know his father
47:08
he was just called son And I was just thinking
47:11
about Egypt, I called my son and how this son
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led them out of Egypt. You know, now we have
47:16
the true son of God lead them out of Egypt. And
47:20
again, the cross things, I thought, why have
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you got a cross over, you know, to hold those
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square things, you know, those two things. And
47:26
I thought, well, what are they, Lord? You know,
47:28
and so I looked up, I thought, what are those
47:30
cross things? Well, they crossed them over their
47:32
chest. It was that they had the ability. One
47:35
was a crook, a shepherd's crook. that would protect
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you, and the other one was a flail that could
47:41
bring punishment on you. And I thought, well,
47:44
that was like the power of the cross, the sun,
47:46
because, you know, Rab -Ra, he had the horns
47:48
and he had the sun. Well, the altar has got the
47:51
horns of the altar that the blood was put on,
47:53
and the sun was laid on the altar, and he had
47:56
the cross over the thing, and he had the power
47:58
to destroy, and he had the power to save. I'm
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thinking, hey, you've got sort of all these things,
48:04
again, that tie in with what you were saying
48:06
about coming out of Egypt. And, you know, it
48:09
just blows your mind when you look into it, really,
48:12
Rick. It really, really does. But yes, what you
48:16
said is incredibly feasible. Watch this. All
48:19
right. So and I'm going to end the study with
48:21
it right here. We can because we're going to
48:24
get into Elihu's actual speech next week. But.
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I want you to think about the New Testament times.
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All right, when you start reading Matthew and
48:33
Mark and Luke and You find that that the kingdom
48:36
of Judah is in trouble, right? They're the kingdom
48:39
of Israel is in trouble. They're they're they're
48:42
scattered They're lost sheep with no shepherd
48:45
and out of the blue You've got this young firebrand
48:52
You know John the Baptist character that comes
48:55
in and says look you've got to be baptized You've
48:58
got to be cleansed he is from the tribe of Levi
49:01
he's a little style priest what he's doing in
49:05
the power and spirit of Elijah. Is he is he is
49:08
saying he is doing exactly what jesus tells nicodemus
49:12
listen listen really closely to something that
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ally who says verse nine or actually verse. Eight
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and nine. No, but there is spirit in man and
49:23
the inspiration of the Almighty giveth them understanding
49:25
You should know that John the Baptist was full
49:29
of the Holy Spirit from birth. All right? Nine
49:32
great men are not always wise neither do the
49:35
aged understand judgment if you don't think of
49:36
John chapter 3 with Jesus and Nicodemus I don't
49:38
know what you're thinking about because Nicodemus
49:41
who was the teacher of Israel? Then he marvels
49:44
at Jesus's words and Jesus says You're the teacher
49:48
of teachers And yet you do not know these things
49:50
you must be born again that baptism that born
49:54
again that whole theme of what they're trying
49:57
to these young men are trying to say to that
49:58
old generation of Israel and its trouble Israel
50:02
in its exile Israel in its sitting in the ashes
50:05
Israel in its disease state of boils Israel in
50:08
its horrid state and You're gonna justify yourself
50:12
with the law. You're gonna justify this you're
50:14
gonna do these abominations and you're gonna
50:15
be justified in this You cannot do that so think
50:19
about job coming from the he's got all the goods
50:21
but at the reality is he doesn't have the relationship
50:24
that is the problem and that's what a lie who
50:28
is only gonna point out partially just like john
50:30
the baptist john the baptist says i must decrease
50:33
and he must increase the lie who will decrease
50:37
and this god will speak from the whirlwind that's
50:40
the pattern that's where we're heading in this
50:43
in the study. Job is representation of old Adamic
50:47
Israel who then gets the covenant by Moses and
50:52
goes through all of these problems with those
50:55
three nations and then ends up in the exile trying
50:59
to head to the temple, but they're, they're using
51:01
that temple in the wrong way. And so what's going
51:04
to happen is you're going to have John the Baptist
51:06
and Christ that brings them to the new. That
51:08
is what's coming. You've got that right at the
51:11
end when he gives him 10 more children. He gives
51:14
him 10 more children. Why? He gets them back.
51:16
He gets them back. Judah and they are united
51:18
together. And what does he do? He's the one that
51:21
prays for those three. He prays for the other
51:23
three. He prays for the wisdom that is wrong.
51:27
He still cares about the nations. He does. Because
51:29
he's the one that's going to care for the nations.
51:31
Christ is going to be over all the nations. Just
51:33
like the promise. Because the original promise
51:36
to Abraham who was from her of the counties out
51:38
of Babylon that God made special in faith because
51:41
he believed in him. God credited to him as righteousness
51:44
absolutely believed in him yeah okay yeah which
51:47
is exactly what job's gonna do but Abraham who's
51:51
whose representation of Israel. He is by faith
51:55
this is where the promise comes through it comes
51:57
all the way through to Christ absolutely this
52:00
story no matter when it was written is telling
52:02
the story. Exactly. In the New Israel, who are
52:06
us? We are part of it. We're the children of
52:10
the bride as a groom. Exactly. You go back to
52:13
Exodus or Deuteronomy. It's always been about
52:15
the heart. He said circumcise your heart. Yes,
52:21
absolutely. Circumcise your heart. Do no longer
52:23
these abominations. Yeah. Exactly. So it was
52:27
always about that. I mean, again, why did they
52:29
fall in the wilderness like a faith? Right so
52:31
what you're gonna hear now so now that you think
52:34
about it if you can see the type of the prophet
52:36
class if you can see that you're gonna see that
52:39
a lie who is very different from these other
52:40
three and so when a line who speaks we gotta
52:43
listen really carefully because he's actually
52:45
helping joe. Get to the whirlwind he's just he's
52:50
the forerunner he's like john the baptist he's
52:52
making the path straight for job. To get to the
52:56
whirlwind. Yeah. Do you think also that you say
52:59
it's a prophet class? Do you not think it's Christ
53:02
himself? I think Christ represents the God in
53:08
the whirlwind personally. I think Elihu is more
53:11
of the John the Baptist. Yes, I think Christ
53:15
fulfills every type, honestly. But with Christ
53:18
in Elihu, the way I would... The way that I would
53:21
look at that is when Christ comes in the triumphal
53:24
entry and he stands over Jerusalem and he's calling
53:27
out Jerusalem. Yes, the same way. Woe to you,
53:30
scribes and Pharisees. That's what Elihu does.
53:33
Woe to you, you three friends and Job. Yeah,
53:36
I think that the only thing is I would get it
53:38
says it talks about like, you know, I, I, I must
53:42
speak. I will open my lips. I will show no favor
53:45
to anyone and I will flutter no one. I don't
53:48
know how to flatter. I'm just thinking that that
53:51
is Christ. I don't think, this is my own thought
53:54
process. I just think that now we're shifting
53:56
from those three aspects that you talked about
53:58
that were around during those time periods under
54:01
those other kingdoms. Now you've got Christ under
54:06
this last kingdom, Rome, and I think this is
54:09
the one that, I think this is, for me, I would
54:12
say that this would be sort of like the words
54:14
that Christ himself would say. He would be the
54:17
culmination of the other three and all that he's
54:21
going to bring about, which is where he's going
54:24
to bring about, Christ is going to bring about
54:27
in the future, Job's future, but he's using Job
54:30
as the class of people that are going to get
54:32
it. They can start understanding and start to
54:35
push out these walls and start to, instead of
54:37
looking at the law, which is what you've been
54:39
saying the other three are, which is I totally
54:41
agree with that, I think that now he's saying
54:44
to Job, right, you are now the class that are
54:47
going to start guessing it. So I think that personally
54:50
for me, I would see that as now Christ being
54:55
the one that opens up the back right back there.
54:59
I love that. I love that. And when I so this
55:01
weekend or this week, whenever I go into my study,
55:04
just so you guys know, we had to record today's
55:06
Monday. You're watching it. If you're watching
55:08
it on Tuesday, that's because I stayed up late
55:10
tonight. And I actually bless your heart, not
55:12
your you're watching in a different day because
55:14
I put a little note, but I'm going to try to
55:16
get it done because I'm very happy about this
55:17
study. But don't forget, you've got to get some
55:19
sleep. Yeah, I'll sleep when I'm dead. All right.
55:22
So listen to this. My mom used to say that now
55:24
she is. Oh, she's in heaven, hopefully. I don't
55:28
know, but I'm praying. Well, the Lord knows our
55:32
heart and why we absolutely there. All right.
55:34
So let's end it. Let's end it with this. You
55:36
say something. I am. Let's end it with this.
55:40
I'm gonna take everything that you said Elaine
55:42
into to heart and I'm gonna think about what
55:45
you said about Christ But here's what's interesting
55:47
a lie whose name and what it means. Did you look
55:49
it up by any chance? I did Rick and I can't find
55:52
it. I've got another Bible but go ahead two elements
55:55
L and who it means he is my god and My god is
56:02
he? There you go That's Christ very much like
56:06
Christ very good. You got it. All right, cuz
56:09
Yahushua means Yahweh saves That's what he was
56:12
there to save his people from his sins. That
56:14
was the point. All right, you know guys Again,
56:17
I mean following through from all this I was
56:19
reading sort of I was really doing a good sort
56:21
of like dive into Ezekiel 33 and 34 and that's
56:25
incredibly sort of You can see lots of Peter
56:28
in there It just literally is wonderful how they
56:31
pull out these scriptures. I forget the word
56:33
for it, Rick. Maybe you know it. It's when they
56:35
take a little bit of scripture here, a little
56:36
bit of scripture there, sort of mash them together.
56:39
There's a word for it. I don't know it. I'm just,
56:43
it's just... just mash them together. There's
56:45
my word mash. Yeah, it's a mashed word. I know
56:47
Paul uses, Paul does it all the time. He takes
56:49
two different Greek words and makes them a single
56:52
word. And it's like, oh, well, no, he'll take
56:55
a scripture from their scripture from their scriptures
56:56
and he'll mash them together. And you'll get
56:59
the sort of like the totality of the three mashed
57:01
together. That makes total and utter sense. Yes.
57:04
But he can't. It would be like, have you guys
57:06
ever heard of let's go with the hair in the toilet.
57:09
Have you ever heard of turtle wax? Turtle wax
57:12
that was in car with it. Yeah, you wax your car
57:15
with it But if you think about those two words
57:16
mashed together, it means that you do a very
57:18
slow wax job. Yeah, that's what it means. All
57:22
right, so Guys, thanks for listening. Please
57:24
leave your comments Thank you guys so much for
57:27
being here with us. It means the world to us
57:29
and We do really look forward to getting to meet
57:33
everybody that's been commenting. And if others
57:36
who are watching this who have not been commenting
57:38
and you want to, like I told you, jump in at
57:41
any time, we'll read those comments. Do you know
57:44
what it is as well, Rick? I think that we, again,
57:47
when people are listening, our little family
57:48
and hopefully others will join our family, we
57:51
are literally just talking as like as if they
57:54
were sitting in the room. And I love that. It's
57:57
not like an interview, it's not like a tea. We're
57:59
just actually sort of like just being bubbly
58:02
about the word of God and loving it. Right. Well,
58:05
I just wanted to tell everybody, hey, say something,
58:09
Elaine. How you doing? I hope you all enjoyed
58:14
being here with us today. You know what you look
58:18
like? You look like you've got a spoon. You know
58:21
when those spoons that you put your face in sort
58:23
of wraps around? Yes. Sort of like this big sort
58:26
of like centerpiece. Yeah. I mean, I don't think
58:30
the pixels do me much justice, really, on this.
58:33
Oh, you're beautiful. Come on. Come on. Oh, no,
58:36
I really don't think they do. I should have to
58:38
glam myself up when I get over there. You know
58:40
what I'd like? Elaine, next week, do you have
58:43
any pictures from your youth or from your young
58:45
20s, 30s, 40s, 50s? Do you have any pictures
58:48
that you could share with us? Well, not right
58:51
now. Do it next week. Maybe find them and show
58:53
them. I'll bring out some pictures of me. I'll
58:56
share them on the screen of whenever I was growing
58:58
up. I grew up, whenever we first moved down here
59:01
from Maine, we moved to Hoopers Creek, North
59:03
Carolina when I was a little boy. Where's Maine?
59:06
That's up by Connecticut. Maine is the very northern.
59:10
Eastern Canada. Yeah, next to New Brunswick.
59:13
Yeah, it's the very most northern northern eastern
59:16
state in America. That's where I'm from. And
59:18
so it's very cold. Yeah. And so but we moved
59:22
to North Carolina from Maine. We moved to Hoopers
59:24
Creek, which is where I live today, which is
59:26
interesting because I was only here for two years
59:28
and then we moved away. And then later on when
59:30
I married Holly, Holly was raised here. And so
59:32
I moved to. How long have you been married to
59:34
Holly? Six years. Six. And when's your birthday,
59:37
Rick? In two days, May the 20th. Oh, is it? Yes.
59:45
Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you.
59:50
Happy birthday, Ricardo. Happy birthday to you
59:58
and many more. Hey, what a beautiful voice. You
1:00:02
got to sing more. You're going to sing when you're
1:00:03
down here. And by the way, We have one. Happy
1:00:06
birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. You smell
1:00:08
like a monkey and you look like one too. That's
1:00:11
what they used to say to us here. I'll tell you
1:00:13
what we used to sing in our church. Happy birthday
1:00:15
to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday
1:00:16
to Rick. Happy birthday to you. And then it was
1:00:18
happy birthday to you for one will not do. Take
1:00:22
the Lord as your savior and then you'll have
1:00:25
to. Oh, that's good. That's sweet, isn't it?
1:00:28
Yes, it is. All right, folks. Well, much love
1:00:31
to everybody. God bless all of you. I hope that
1:00:34
this study meant something to you and I didn't
1:00:35
lose. Oh, it meant a lot to me. That's excellent,
1:00:38
Rick. Yeah, I hope. And all glory to God in the
1:00:42
highest. What what I got out of it has really
1:00:47
changed my relationship with him. And I've been
1:00:49
able to see in my life how he brought me through
1:00:52
this absolute tortuous, wretchedness difficulty.
1:00:56
He has squeezed me. Show me the oil. This is
1:01:00
what I'm saying Rick. It's delving into it and
1:01:03
your relationship with God just broadens. It
1:01:07
stretches outward and inward and upwards and
1:01:10
downwards and in every which way until there
1:01:13
is no more temple. It's just God. It's just amazing.
1:01:19
Amazing and you know what it makes me think of
1:01:21
like once you get to this level because i also
1:01:23
think of paul is kind of like an ally who's not
1:01:25
a figure you got the whirlwind which is the holy
1:01:28
spirit coming in on those and teaching them all
1:01:31
of these things and then as the church goes then
1:01:33
you got paul who shows up kills you know stephen
1:01:37
and the next thing you know god boom hits him.
1:01:40
And then Paul's going out and he's like the scribe
1:01:43
of the New Testament, you know, and he he's a
1:01:45
firebrand under Gamaliel, you know, this young
1:01:48
man who's bringing the fire. Paul is a lot like
1:01:51
an Elihu, too. But wonderful. I love that man.
1:01:54
I love Paul. I do, too. Yeah. But, you know,
1:01:57
as as I'm as I'm going through all of that and
1:02:03
reading all of this stuff and what you just said,
1:02:05
Elaine, it Whenever Paul opens a letter, I love
1:02:08
the way that he opens his letters when he says
1:02:11
heart when he says grace Yes, peace be unto you
1:02:15
from God our father and from the Lord Jesus Christ
1:02:18
Yeah, and when you really get the depth of what
1:02:20
he's saying the movement that you feel inside
1:02:23
from the man to you as your brother is Depth
1:02:27
and I love depth and then when he closes out
1:02:30
a letter like we're gonna close out this episode
1:02:33
greet one another with a holy kiss. Absolutely.
1:02:36
Which is what I hope that we we do with our brothers
1:02:38
and sisters. We greet them and we say God bless
1:02:41
you. We'll see you guys next week. Yeah. Love
1:02:45
you very much. Love you all very much. Yeah.
1:02:48
God bless you. Thanks for the comments. Love
1:02:50
you.