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Left my Heart in Karbala (Ft. Mehdi Taki) · After Maghrib 🌙

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Bismillah ar-rahman ar-rahim brand assist Aslam o alaikum.
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Warahmatullahi wabarakatu and welcome back to the after
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marketing podcast, the Muharram and the other, by in season this
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year. I think we can safely say was
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something which brought a tear to all of our eyes.
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The number of people we saw the passion we witnessed in the
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majella stand in the zero in karbala was something absolutely
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incredible for me. This year was my first walk in,
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I'll buy in and I have a lot of stories to tell and I'm really
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excited to share that with you. But before we get into that,
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let's say Salam to our Guest. My wonderful co-host.
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And I literally a few weeks, about 23 weeks to three weeks.
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Yeah. And of course.
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Mattituck Islam, alaikum. How you doing?
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I'm right-handed. Left-handed.
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Le Jardin her saying if I wish I wish met the has been working.
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I'm sure a lot of us know, the workmen he doesn't even in the
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80 and the role he plays for the show Youth.
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And London, he's an inspiration to us and the martial arts such
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a young age. But yeah, because we learn from
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you and these kind of podcasts and these initiatives and Allure
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not have you. So we want to, we want to
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obviously talk about our experience because this was my
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first year, say you've been I've been funded.
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I've been blessed to go number of times.
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I think this was my fifth are buying.
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Hmm, Ciara and how many times Have you been?
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We have this conversation outside actually Handler.
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This year was my seventh year in a row.
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Watch my sham. I've been a couple of times to
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of mine when I was a kid, but when I used to go is to go
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mostly for the non-bacterial art was more for Siobhan.
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I believe we went in Muharram as well 2010, but sometimes of are
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being handed out my seventh year in a row.
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Yeah, it's 2016. I believe my mats might be off
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now, but I'm pretty sure seven years in Russia.
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So you went throughout the whole covid?
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Yes, I want to go over the results.
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When its way. Okay, how is it?
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Was it different? Yeah, I need the code.
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How covid you're different from other years weirdly enough covid
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year the ZR. I'm sure the boys who came the
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very few boys are handled. Were blessed enough to go in the
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covid year was my favorite year, actually covered here.
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And I think the only are that matched with it would have been
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this year. Hmm, that's from like a personal
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perspective. The covid year in comparison to
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this year's hand, unless I'm sure.
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But if you saw the number of people this year was Unreal,
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while she was something that I learned in the last seven years.
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I've never seen I think the night we arrived to karbala, I
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think I got there for three or four nights before buying, and I
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remember telling my family, I was like, it is more pack.
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Now, four nights before are buying in the middle of the day,
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then it was the night of our by last year.
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Yes. Well, covid year was completely
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empty. I remember, we were in a Jeff
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and when we got to the shrine, usually, the most part time, I
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see nature of his a week before behind because nobody's left for
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the walk yet. I remember a week before buying
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we walked up and we held the shrine of Imam.
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Ali will show an Imam al-hussein shrine Before this before buying
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we were walking up. Grabbing the shine, like no one
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was there. I think two or three nights
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before the knife are behind. I think the quality government
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gave a few people access, the Iranian government, give a few
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people access quite a few government's allowed it.
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So people flooded in, by wasn't the massive numbers that we saw
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in this horse but it was very, very weird that.
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Yeah, malaka. Bob every maybe one in every
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four or five Market were running.
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It wasn't, there wasn't a million Iranians.
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It was you saw our kids more than One's very strange are best
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handled. I was very, very lucky.
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I remember last year, I kneel, I don't know if we can count last
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year's like a cope with your, as well as 2020.
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Still. When I work, as you mentioned,
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like 15 market. I'll just want him away.
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Keep on the way, which was a bit weird compared to compared to
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this time. Yeah.
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And then, when I speak to them, you know, it's not busy this
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year Maraschino that while some of them were crying saying,
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where are the Iranians because they just want to serve these
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individuals. There's a war coming to my
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saying. So the really felt like they are
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not serving how the You do best and allow the CSS panel la7,
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pretty much like it was like, it was in Full Throttle.
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I think we all kind of had different experiences as well.
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So I say that. I know, of course, you're with,
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you were reciting with a group met eiu went with family.
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Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
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And for me, myself, I went with with that little bit TV and I
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was with the team then filming as well.
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So we all kind of had like like a different experience of other
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buying and I think that's goes to goes to show the beauty in
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it, because you can do so many different things you can.
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Be with different people and you learn so many different things.
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Allah what was like a standout for you?
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Stand up for me. Is that you came to carbon see
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me? Yes.
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Okay you guys were saying that he's
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not coming in this year and you told him See you in?
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Karbala yeah he goes on so you guys you're both coming.
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So for him it was like reminding me love you know the power of
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dog, you really hopes you come and we prayed you did and I'm
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the law saying that whole was also, the means a lot and there
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was like, I know it's amazing seeing you in the shrine of Imam
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Ali. Yeah, that was like, you know,
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became room. Yeah.
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It was, it was it was touching. It was emotional.
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And she not, you know, just like if I kept asking myself and
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asking the people around me, how am I going to do this work?
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Go back to London and I sit at my desk at work and I'm
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thinking, wow, this time last week I was in heaven.
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Yeah, it's such a weird feeling and I remember like the biggest
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thing I tried to take away was if there's something I can keep
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with me, that's like tangible and that allows me not to feel
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like it was a distant memory in the past, you know, I mean but
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it's been, it's been weird because I've I arrived a week
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ago. I think today it was a really
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weird experience. Coming back and blow.
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I thought it was still a bit out.
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Think, ya know, first time, when I like the fact, I was like,
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where am I first nights? I remember I fell asleep when I
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came back waking up idea. Where am I?
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Well, I'm looking at cold is a comfy bed.
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There's always this was happening, but I think it's one
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of the the Miracles of your mom who is a nurse and I'm one of
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the most beautiful things about his.
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The other is that when you go there something that I've seen
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in the last few years and I'm sure any of the show Bob who
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have gone. Yeah I need you.
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Go and When you're in London you have all these Hydra that you've
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got. You've got for example a list.
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I need help with work family, pressing issues.
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I've tried every Avenue nothing's working.
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I'm coming to you about Abdullah.
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Yeah, but when you get to the shrine and just isn't cliche, I
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don't mean to be cringe or anything, but when he gets to
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the shrine, it's like all. If it becomes completely
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insignificant, when you don't think about any of your hundred,
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nothing seems to be a problem. The only thing that you require
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when you get there is just so that you're talking about Adela,
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please bring me back, I don't want.
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Hodges and all just just and I'll just bring me back and I
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feel like that when you come back to London, that that want
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to be there. Again, I think that's the mom
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has been calling you back. I my opinion.
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Okay, maybe my opinion isn't important, but I feel like that
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means that maybe Mom has been recognized that I was there that
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when I'm back here, my whole mind and my life, and my
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everything in me, just wants to be there again, and wants to be
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there all the time. And I think that is one of the
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most beautiful sad. Yeah, he come back your broken
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that you're not there anymore. More.
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But it's something that drives you and constantly keeps you
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pulls you that no matter what you're going through, everything
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you do every day is just so I can come to you again next year.
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And, and I feel like that's one of the aspects of the other is
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really beautiful and important Paula.
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Yeah. The collection is they go, they
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go /. All the before we before we flew
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and I we were talking, of course about the importance of other
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buy-in and about going. And there's there's so many
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ideas about the the benefit of visiting about the love.
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Saying slot life, somewhat highly, of course we know, for
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example, the moment call them I live Salam.
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He says, Those Who perform the Zeal of my grandfather at the
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shores of the foot, art, will not return.
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Unless all of their sins have been forgiven for lost upon what
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either, of course, there's so many others as well, you know,
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and it just makes me feel like there's a spiritual cleansing
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that takes place. Even if you don't, you don't
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mean for it to happen, you know, we go there, like you said,
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maybe you'd like the nears, of course, to come back and to do
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whatever service you can. When you're there when you're
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when you're Back home as well. But one thing I'm still trying
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to process was for me, the biggest takeaway, what when I
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went when I was on my way and I remember, we talked about this
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before, said we said, oh, we should go and try and become
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better people come back. Now, if I'm really honest, my
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whole psychology on that is reversed, so, and I kind of feel
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like that's like an egotistical way of thinking of that, like,
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I'm going there for me, and I want to transform, and I want to
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improve my salon, X, Y and Z. But when I went there, I share
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actually Chanting me something really nice.
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He said, think about the bigger picture, think about the mission
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of the Imam and the Imam of our time.
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I shall offer larger Sharif. And of course, once you do that
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and you understand the concept of what he called, social
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wilayah, you're part of a bigger picture and you're part of a
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mission where you're working towards the, the whole of the
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Imam. And when you do that naturally,
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like a repercussion or an added added, a result would be the
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transformation of yourself. Do you see what I mean?
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So one thing I think I'd say my my biggest takeaway of my
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biggest lesson learned was that we are very insignificant, we're
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very small in terms of you know who we are and what we can give
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back to the Imam, but we can take a lot from him in terms of
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learning learning experiences. And we have to buy into a bigger
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picture because we're blessed to be as or what of about Delilah.
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So, you know, it's I think I'm trying to change my mentality
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about the currently mom, and of course, about about the line,
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how their messages intertwined with one another, you know, I
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mean, Of course. Yeah, I agree, but I think that
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that's one of the again one of not Des Miracles but the
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beauties of him around her saying then the the one of the
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incredible aspects of his, they are not just his ero.
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His measureless. His whole ethos is that anybody
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of any aim. Any that explain anybody with
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any kind of Direction saying, accepts somebody who's there for
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a person? Really - and accepts.
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So you're there to be part of a big picture, man.
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It accepts you are there more, circular Zara as condolence
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vitamins are among us and accept anyone who sends a message is so
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diverse. And I'm personally I'm talking
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about mentalities, I'm not of the opinion, I see a lot of
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people met anyone. They portray them as shipping on
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her saying they'll say oh use a social social justice, social
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justice. Vigorous also have a I need when
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I'm using social justice figure but limiting him to something
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like that. Imam Hussain is everything
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encompassing Is everyone it's not something that we can
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explain and you're speaking about Imam and Maddie and I
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borrow your what going to care about that gives you 1 radians
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out and a higher Market. Does, it says assalamu alikum
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and Jolla has she fought Victor Betty.
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He's got cure in his lust. Well it's the job at a company
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and the acceptance of your dollars under his Dome.
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Well a metaphysical reality. And the imams are in his
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lineage. So we have to understand that by
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us going to Imam Husain with. That's right, we are We are part
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of a bigger picture 100% but your you need to know your worth
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as a diaphragm. A in not everybody gets to go to
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got him a senior written. You've got an invite somebody's
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written for you to go to the out of Imam Hussain.
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So I think taking something personally but of course, you're
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right. Appreciating the bigger aspect
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of is also something that's very, very important and maybe a
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shot of something that we can focus on ourselves.
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In terms of when we go, we see what we're part of, you know.
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Maybe I need. It was interesting.
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You know how you guys have related it Samosa blast.
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Rosamond best. When I was there, I was relating
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it to Lady Fatima Zahra and I'm a la la.
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She was watching down on the zawar and, you know, she's the
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one who's writing our names down.
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Insha'Allah best the reason why that always came to my mind
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during the whole mainly during the walk, by the way.
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No. It's because Jose his name was
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mentioned everywhere and it's known that way.
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Mom saying his motioned for a disaster Zara is present.
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So sha Allah, you know, wow, we are edible and Charles accepted
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Charles is zwar and inshallah all those who Then being to
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karbala 40s are buying get this opportunity and I don't know the
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listeners and people watching this podcast are yearning to go
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or you have been please let us know tell us about your
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experiences. Comment Down Below in the
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comments would love to hear. I think it's a good time to
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mention as well for everyone. We had handle Alamein hundreds
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or even hundreds thousands of names that were sent to us or on
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Allah. Yes, by people who are praying,
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people spent the scent specific dollars for family members, who
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are ill for children, That they have who are suffering for mud
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home in their family who passed away, there was messages that
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really touched me. Those, there was a young child
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who had cancer and is going through chemotherapy.
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There was a message about a father who lived his whole life,
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he earning and saving up to go to Carlinville, I never made it.
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And unfortunately, passed away, we prayed for all of these
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people by name, both in najaf and karbala and inshallah
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youíll, your Zeal is accepted and on behalf of your mother,
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aminah family, but comment down below.
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Bronte sisters, could we want to hear if Went.
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How did you find it? How did you feel?
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And if you didn't go, what is, what is your your, your plan or
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in Charlie, you're near for next year?
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If you go, what is your month at, or your oath that you're
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willing to make to the holy Imam and and shallow something that
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you will do. If you go I promise that you can
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make to a lot of pain to Allah that if he accepts your wish to
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go, you'll Implement because I think for me personally like
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that's a big part of its. I don't necessarily like a
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transaction because that's a very and we know that I did some
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real money in about the Optional worshiper.
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But for me it's more incentivizing and it's
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motivating. Like I feel like if a last one
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to Allah sees what's in my heart?
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Then yeah, I can't fool him. So I need to try and cleanse and
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purify and make myself a marvelous individual like and
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for me, that's been something which I've tried to focus on and
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hopefully in sha Allah in the coming months, you know, we can
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keep this momentum up because we've talked about all the time.
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We talk about the spiritual high that you gain in Muharram.
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How you try and keep it up and in the months after.
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And, of course, now we're wrapping up the other buying
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season, we're entering little bit.
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Oh well, what is your, what do you guys think in terms of
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advice or anything like that? That we can do now to kind of
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keep things going and the momentum, the only if I can
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person is first the fact we are now entering Charlotte rules
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that we all do. When we are coming out the
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sorrowful month of Muharram Safar.
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It's important not to forget what we just went through.
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Through. Yeah honey.
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So and you mentioned something earlier on like a moral compass.
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I think you said so he gave me like an idea of that we can in
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sha. Allah use, you know, a lot of
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attalos that Compass but environment were saying because
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the connection we had during high drama so far, especially
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coming back from Zara. He's that north, of course,
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North Point and in sha Allah, through Imam al-hussein, we get
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closer to the last five minutes on the job.
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Not that, I'm any one to give advice from.
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This is actual problem that I struggled myself actually while
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driving to her. I thought I was gonna be one of
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the topics that comes up in terms of a Hi.
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So the way I see it is that we go through, we and the whole
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year from harem, harem comes. We had an insane spiritual High
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unreachable. The period in between Muharram
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and are behind. It's kind of like anticipation
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of our B is not, you're not there, but your Junior waiting
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to be there. But may I just say that say that
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I am, a jersey mom and Hudson, and then after are behind, of
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course, like we are still many days of Sorrow, I think people
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tend to forget that I think as soon as our behind finishes
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people seem to have kind of come back soon.
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All my life. They forget that these are these
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are the days of film. I sent the son of Fatima
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az-zahra who is unborn. And these days I believe
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actually might be tonight that the daughter Fatima Zahra was
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attacked so we still are in a morning, we have this will
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Factor. So what parts are so say the
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must must call Center Mass Umaga moreover.
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We can officially not wear the black anymore and but for me
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it's very important. Like the sage was saying to
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carry the message of Imam Hussain.
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Not just in a way of attempting majorities, of course, it's a
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just you need to carry in your everyday life and an outright
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where, you know, people have this issue of like they don't
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know their identity, they don't know who they belong to, they
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don't know. Am I share my British and my
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this and my that, what am I were saying?
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You are. You've got, you've got the zoom,
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a lot of got the world in front of you.
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Why would you choose someone else?
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So once you take that identity on yourself, when you go morning
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to help, put luck million is keep, just keep some kind of
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reminder put lessons about. On your way to work.
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Listen to a lecture. You got ten nights of lectures
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from a lot. Many good lecturers in the
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world. Say you like, three methanol.
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That's 30 lectures. You've got to listen to.
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How many drives is that for you? How many if you just keep up?
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Just those little bits and pieces and don't put him on her
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saying the back of your mind. Because as you were mentioning
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earlier, taking something from my mom and her saying, and using
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my same to cleanse ourselves, that doesn't have to be just
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another behind. That doesn't have to be.
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Just some, how do I, I believe? Sorry if I'm talking too much.
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Oh, no, I'm actually learning from this.
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There's a Hadith from my mom started, We just couldn't a
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supernatural. We are all Ox of Salvation,
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without consider Fina, genteel, Hussein Akbar, Wasa the boats,
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and the, the ship, and the Ark of Salvation of my grandfather
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Imam, Hussain is bigger and wider.
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And I don't know the exact words for it, but basically we're
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saying and in the sea, it's goes faster.
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So that a mama said that hasn't put a limit on are buying hasn't
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put a name on my arm. He hasn't told you taking Mom
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and her saying as your as your sophina as your salvation just
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during those months we've got the whole year.
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Why do we forget him? It's true.
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Yeah, I mean, of course, the year for me as well, whenever I
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feel like I'm slipping my same, brings me back.
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And what there's poetry or like you said a lecture or even, even
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if something in the Holy Quran, which you can relate to the
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stories of the island beta level, salamat specifically
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about the ladder Zane, it's a reminder to us.
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And like you know what, Maddie something you mentioned just hit
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me especially about identity. Yeah, we talked about identity,
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a lot on this podcast, we talked about how we, how we classify
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ourselves and they will because we live in a world now.
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I've laid You can identity and for the first time, I think
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someone's giving me an answer, which I myself, can be content
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with I'm from a very mixed cultural and ethnic background
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and a lot of the time I feel very confused but now I think I
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found the label which own which I want to shout and with pride
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in sha Allah but yeah it's incredible.
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Absolutely incredible. One thing I wanted to ask you
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guys as well because for me personally everyone for the for
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the years I've been alive and haven't anticipated.
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Go for Alibi in everyone's Always told me about the
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hospitality on the locals and all of that.
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What is one experience? Because I'm short?
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No matter how many times you can go, it will always blow you away
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and you'll always learn something or see something that
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will shock you say, let me ask you, what was like one moment
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which blew you away. Hospitality wise, or something
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that you learnt from from some of the hood?
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Dumb or anything like that. Yeah, I need for milk and a lot
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of experienced, the normally, we see the hospitality, I karbala,
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well, majority of the time people experience.
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During the walk, the walk first, you know, the every day, every
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hour, every minute, there's like a special special something you
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can learn from, and, you know, be humbled from.
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Yeah. There's this time, I went with a
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Z Auto Group for the when we landed, we left behind.
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Are we just came up with a DOT airport.
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Furniture time was very close. Mmm.
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So we had I think about 15 or 16 minutes, literally, we would
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like counting the minutes with the driver for us to pray Before
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Sunrise comes out. So we found the market and the
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middle of nowhere. I've never of Baghdad Airport,
20:08
Road and we stop there for the first time.
20:11
So we asked them. Can we pray?
20:13
They said, you have a similar compre.
20:14
They turn on the lights, the arrange, the flooring,
20:16
everything we will share, how you share your leadership
20:19
jamiyah. We finished soon as we finished,
20:22
we turned around, everyone's cooking now.
20:24
Again the tea ready and I haven't even started because you
20:27
saying we don't, we don't start normally, there's no like during
20:29
the walk. So it's a place where they're
20:31
not actually where they start early.
20:33
So but for us, they All that was all children with like seven,
20:37
eight year, olds dealing with the chili.
20:39
And then you had like the elders, they were dealing with
20:41
the given us, her Issa was porridge, yeah, it's been as
20:44
porridge. And as soon as we finished
20:45
Salah, we turned around and we can see all of this happening,
20:49
we're like something unexpected. I for many that were with us it
20:52
was their first experience of someone like being very
20:56
Hospital, hospitable to you. Yeah.
20:58
And the beauty the beauty of it as soon as you know, everyone
21:00
ate their breakfast ever finished their child highly
21:03
emotional Is that the person's was speaking Arabic to them?
21:08
They don't understand if I was translating to them what the the
21:13
Hardin was saying. He was like, as long as you guys
21:15
are. So war and Iraq from our side of
21:17
on argue are our responsibilities.
21:19
What you sleep, where you eat, when you pray all of this.
21:22
But that was like the first first weapon past one hour of
21:26
touching touching the land of Iraq and Handler.
21:28
We experience outstanding Hospital.
21:30
Incredible for me. I've been honest, it handle
21:38
admin so many times to a turbine and I've seen, I don't think I
21:42
could put my finger or anything. There's just, it's, it's all
21:44
around you and that's what people don't understand that
21:46
when you go to our bean and is truly is a one that doesn't make
21:49
sense. These things just don't don't
21:51
make sense in the world that we live in now.
21:54
Imagine, tell your colleague when we got to Iraq, you walk
21:56
from one state to another, and you got people begging you to
21:58
eat with them and making you not, because there's a camera,
22:02
not because someone's watching, not because I remember, Few
22:06
years ago, I think it was. Now some guy came and wanted to
22:09
clean my shoes. Wanted to clean my shoes.
22:11
I was looking at him another, you want to keep my shoes
22:13
walking and where he was hugging me and hugging and how can I
22:17
help them by so cool. Hey, he's like, because he his
22:21
entire life is based around the feed.
22:24
My family also based around the 70 mom has a, I don't know.
22:27
What do we do here in London? We do a little bit, Manama,
22:29
nice. If everybody has thinks of
22:32
themselves as someone become predominant face, Doing my
22:35
thing, speaking of that and there's there was a clip.
22:38
I remember seeing from Chef David, Campbell, a hmm.
22:42
And for those that don't know, and we have a diverse audience,
22:45
he was one of the people who began the member of Imam,
22:48
Hussain. Who was it was famous.
22:50
I believe in the 60s, 70s around that time.
22:52
She had to cover that. He was in any his talk.
22:56
He was saying, he was that me and you and whoever it is.
22:59
That's one active. Remember her saying seems to
23:01
have some self. As I cried, my family has seen
23:03
calls himself a card, my female. Hear her saying something gets
23:06
to his head and I speak this to myself before anyone else.
23:09
He says, he says, Jabara Eve was the cosmic moment.
23:13
I said this is jibra eel says, who is like me men with Lee and
23:18
I know has s to mad at her saying and I'm the one who
23:20
rocked among the saints cradle. This is Jabra even me and you we
23:24
ask them every Monday. We are nowhere.
23:26
Nothing people label themselves as a hard time of Imam Hussain
23:29
but I believe the closest you can get or maybe people who are
23:33
true Servants of kadam Imam, Hussain We genuinely do it out
23:36
of the love and the passion for Imam.
23:38
Hussain is those people who said it's the goal to get to that,
23:42
which drives us, and the gold achieve.
23:45
And I don't think it's right for anyone to label themselves in my
23:48
opinion, here. And I am a harem of the Imam
23:50
like it's a very big honor to say of Auto.
23:53
So all you know, the to keep to have that honor and it's a
23:56
blessing. But but the number of people
23:59
that and thus, people who are doing the headman there they
24:02
are, truly heard. Of course, they really are like
24:04
Like that, the hours they worked and they save up for months at a
24:08
time of taxi drivers, telling me the guy, you know, I don't think
24:12
he's like in the best financial situation but he told me, I
24:14
remember, he said we saved up 30,000 dollars over the last
24:18
year since last other buying and we put all the money into the
24:20
Malcolm. And I have a family member who's
24:25
local and who lives in karbala she's a young girl.
24:28
She was making a bread for the for the zawar and she passed
24:33
away the propane. Propane, propane, propane tank,
24:37
exploded. And she died as a servant of the
24:40
Imam. Like what an honest upon a lot
24:43
to be able to do to be able to do the Headband to die in to
24:47
serve the Imam become a Shaheed in that moment.
24:50
It's an incredible service. You know, one guy said to me and
24:53
his young brother and I was mind-blowing.
24:55
I'm not gonna lie, but the number of young kids who are
24:59
serving. I like, they they are fully
25:01
committed, then they know what they're doing, they've been
25:03
raised so well. One of the kids said to me, I
25:06
said to my you happy, like you enjoying it.
25:08
And he said, yeah, I love it but I am also a sad sad.
25:10
Why are you sad? He said because in two days time
25:14
this was during the walk he said in 2 days time all of you would
25:18
have arrived in karbala and will be here alone he goes we will be
25:22
empty and we'll have no one to serve and he goes I realized he
25:25
told me in that we had someone translating.
25:27
He said to me he was I realized one honor.
25:30
I have to be local and to be here serving you guys every year
25:34
and I know you Guys come from Fall across the world and you
25:37
wish you were in our shoes. Yeah, he goes.
25:39
I understand what big responsibility.
25:41
I have just thinking, like the maturity of someone at such a
25:45
young age to have that level of understanding.
25:47
It's an inspiration to us and like you said, maybe we think
25:50
we're Big Shots here. Sometimes we're spending like
25:53
thousands of pounds and we're, you know, we're like, you know,
25:57
just doing things. And we think yeah, I've put in
25:59
really a shift. You know, I'm a great volunteer
26:01
for the show Community in the UK for Baba.
26:04
Like, what? You know it's this is small
26:06
things like in the grand scheme of things, we're doing nothing,
26:10
you know. So it's a very humbling
26:11
experience to say that abscess is indeed and you know, the the
26:15
group I was with as it was the first time for them for many
26:18
years. So for them was like, something
26:21
out of this world you have some have been by the way to Z are
26:25
outside of our Pine but they've never experienced the
26:27
hospitality for buying. And I think what happened by
26:30
them. Witnessing all of this even
26:31
myself. Softens the heart.
26:33
Yeah, of course. Of a really humbles you and
26:36
softens your hand. It makes you think, you know,
26:38
these people who have nothing but the majority of them up.
26:41
LOL. They have nothing, they give
26:42
everything. I think sometime and you don't
26:46
even need to touch your money at all.
26:47
I think It prepares you. I think all of that seeing all
26:50
this love for Imam, Hussain this before you get to the shrine
26:53
before you reach kind of better seeing all this love for him on
26:57
his answer panel. I don't know what is it does
26:59
something to your heart. It it melts you a little bit so
27:02
that by the time you get to a mom and her saying and you see
27:04
his Shrine, you you collapse because of the amount of love
27:08
than you've been fed and amount of Love you've been given and I
27:11
think those those kadam as I'm sure that in the end there and
27:15
they're right, they are called damned if I'm her.
27:17
I said they offer you this kind of this Serenity that this this
27:22
warmth in your heart and I think that my mom has a Nash.
27:25
Allah, he looks at all of them and he gives them all what we
27:29
can't ever give them. We can't thank them for.
27:31
This is Unthinkable. Then you how can you thank
27:33
somebody for preparing you to go stall him up as saying?
27:36
So Insha'Allah if especially those children may alight and he
27:39
blessed them and kiss them on this way.
27:41
And if there's any way you should spend your childhood, if
27:44
Any place should be in the head. Man should be in there.
27:47
Say Nia. I feel like a lot of people's
27:49
now. Not that, I'm not that I'm old,
27:51
or have children or anything like that, but I feel like a lot
27:53
of people now, they just don't bring their kids texting yet,
27:58
they just don't bring them back. I remember when I was a kid, my
28:00
mom used to drag me to have gone, and I feel like it was the
28:07
attachment from being a kid to a mom and her saying, even though
28:10
I didn't really understand what's going on.
28:12
But having those core memories and there is no having them.
28:14
In the measureless. I think there's something that
28:15
we definitely need to instill in July children into our kids, the
28:19
kids met the love of the kid Mafia.
28:22
Yes. And yeah, it's the tubby
28:24
instead. Nurturing of children in today's
28:26
day and age how to be able to say, India's Got the best one of
28:30
the best gifts you can give your children.
28:32
Yeah yeah it really is to be honest and and now we live in a
28:35
society where we are so distracted we have so many
28:38
things that are going on in the world around us and so easy to
28:41
get caught up in the fast pace of colitis, we're living and
28:44
These small small reminders that we can make or even just small
28:48
efforts or sacrifices, we can make to go to modulus or to go
28:53
to force, our kids to go like you said, made it to listen to
28:56
something on your way to work to recite, or on before you sleep
28:59
and to reflect on your day and all of these things, these are
29:03
things that we know but sometimes don't really Implement
29:05
and those small steps and changes.
29:07
I think our our metrics to judge ourselves on and to measure how
29:12
far we've come. So for example example, I see
29:15
this like place we're at now as like a flag point.
29:21
I don't know if that's the right term but we've laid down our
29:23
flag. I'm like okay this is a
29:24
milestone in the Islamic calendar and I know what sort of
29:27
Muharram I've had in other by now I've had and what sort of
29:30
changes I've made and then Charles in the coming months we
29:33
can assess how far we've come and where we've gone to you know
29:36
and then hopefully inshallah by next on Vine shall Allah gives
29:39
us the health and the opportunity to get to that stage
29:42
and then even to go to visit about For saying and, you know,
29:46
we can assess where we've come and what we've done and how
29:49
we've served in the year gone, you know, because I think at the
29:53
end of the day we're not growing and we're not using a lot of
29:57
time on the earth and you know, what's the point.
29:59
We're gonna miss these days, of course, of course, yeah, we're
30:02
in the brain, the prime of our life and in way that where youth
30:04
hand a lot of blood mean we've got Health, we've got wealth
30:07
hamdulillah, we've got energy to go.
30:10
Why not use this opportunity? Now, like, give every, you know,
30:13
our parents tell us Us. Our grandparents, tell us I wish
30:16
I was your age when I was your age.
30:17
I wondered if I was your age I would have done this like that
30:20
remorse or regret that someone can slip into an elderly age.
30:25
We don't want to get to that. We want to know.
30:26
Like we've worked 110% in these years and that every ounce of
30:31
energy. We have we put towards 70 mm um
30:33
if we can do that and show that it's accepted and such or again
30:36
and what better way to give all that energy to give everything
30:40
to have that life where you're every Bit of your energy is
30:45
expended for a moment her saying what everything where I'm
30:48
working so that I can get money to go.
30:49
See Allah, I'm working, I've got money and give it to images.
30:53
I'm working base and you talking about spiritual connection and
30:56
and keep keeping going for the rest of the year.
30:58
I think I need a few especially now it's very hard to link the a
31:03
little bit into your daily life, but even if you do it in a
31:06
cliche manner, as if I was just a little more, accepts whatever
31:09
it is if you try to base everything.
31:12
So I'm not saying that. Something that I do.
31:13
I wish is Nothing that I did, but maybe cement sector that we
31:16
can adopt where I'm working in this environment that I don't
31:19
want to be in that, whatever it is, but I'm going to grind it
31:22
out for you. This money that I'm going to get
31:25
is going to come for you. You're hosting these hours that
31:27
I'm doing, they're gonna come for your head saying.
31:29
Don't forget me during those times you have Abdullah where
31:32
I'm working style that I can come see you.
31:34
I think putting the little Bates at the Forefront of our daily
31:38
life is yeah I Nee I was actually having this
31:42
conversation with something shocking but maybe you can give
31:44
me Input as well. How lucky are we?
31:46
How lucky are we to have him on our saying people that don't
31:49
have you been rehearsing? What do they have any?
31:52
What, what you saw, what? What do they work towards?
31:55
What the next drive towards? And it hit me this year.
31:58
It really hit me because I've started working now.
32:00
So, I've been studying for the past few years and I graduated
32:03
few few months ago and here I am, I'm working.
32:05
And yeah, I mean, I like seeing my paycheck, I like seeing this,
32:10
I like making money. I like, I'm normal.
32:12
I'm the only one here. I like, Making money, I like
32:15
buying nicer things, whatever, looking at cars looking at this,
32:17
looking at that. And then I go to my house and
32:19
Shrine. And I looked at the shrine, I
32:22
was like, whatever. We're in your work.
32:24
Your butt lift, none of it means anything but like how lucky are
32:29
we to have something? Which will give you the serenity
32:32
in your heart and the peace and the love and the comfort in your
32:35
heart that no material thing can bring two people don't have this
32:39
and I feel sorry for others. How how do you spend your year
32:43
your life? The 10 days?
32:44
Harlem, the time if I died without actually, knowing what's
32:47
going on without having the and his Handler where, so we're so
32:51
so blessed to have enough. Mom, I said it's one of the, the
32:56
things that makes us who we are. One of the things that keeps us
32:58
sane and my opinions, that really said, massive, massive
33:01
blessing, having the love of mother.
33:02
I said I just remembered some poetry, right?
33:04
Notice or not. Everything within me Hyder Ali.
33:07
Husayn. Yeah, that's like the
33:10
explanation to meet with FC. Love this.
33:20
It's amazing. Like how like just Imam
33:22
al-hussein has made us closer to a lot of pain at all because
33:25
that's our Ultimate Golf Course. And this connection that we have
33:29
inshallah continues for the entire year and to even, I know
33:32
there's people who always ask us, you know, how can I connect
33:35
to Allah subhanahu wa'ta'ala and assure the best way the Imam
33:39
al-hussein without you? If so, say doesn't say like if
33:44
We, if we are not touched by the story of the among then either,
33:48
we're misunderstanding the story.
33:49
We've not been told it correctly, you know what I mean?
33:51
Because the story of the Imam will touch anyone's heart
33:54
attack. They say the hardest Hearts will
33:56
become soft from the story of Bob, Vila.
33:58
And if there's one thing, I think we've all picked up on and
34:01
we've all learned is that there's a lesson to learn.
34:04
Incredible are to apply to any situation your day-to-day life.
34:07
You know, relationship would be with family members values that
34:09
you have when you're interacting with people forgiveness, the way
34:12
you understand the last part to Allah.
34:14
The way you, you do the smallest things in your, in your
34:17
day-to-day interactions activities.
34:19
There's so many things, and we've heard the McCarty so many
34:21
times. We've had the, the stories.
34:23
The interaction is that there, that in mom had in the
34:25
companions had and all the shahada had every single
34:30
individual in in and around the story in the Battle of karbala
34:34
teachers are something, you know, and it's brings us
34:37
together. Now, like you said, maybe like
34:39
we've now developed something. We're proud to have it and we're
34:42
blessed. Having it brings you a
34:43
Brotherhood. Date A Live at the bare minimum.
34:46
If we're not, if we're struggling outside of, you know,
34:50
we're struggling with a spirituality, at least, we can
34:52
engage in the Brotherhood and a Sisterhood that gives us.
34:55
Do you know what I mean? And that will pull us closer to
34:57
Allah subhana. Allah, you know, we started off
34:59
this Muharram season for your information.
35:01
My the about talking about, we use the temple part-time or slow
35:04
Muslims and yeah, like, and we all are, yeah, it's a heavy one.
35:11
But in the sense that I think self-reflection, the says that,
35:14
We all are some, like you said, didn't harm wearing a spiritual
35:16
high and then we did present. We have one more Bond and then
35:19
this and things got up and down and in many ways our days go
35:23
like that as well as you know day-to-day, we do good things,
35:25
we do bad things but if there's one thing we can try and do is
35:28
become less of a part-time Muslim or more of a consistent
35:31
Muslim person and Richard consistent.
35:33
I like that. Yeah, they become more
35:35
consistent and try and Implement small things.
35:37
And speaking of the consistency of seeing any every year, we can
35:40
learn from every single aspect. An individual from caribou, And
35:44
I think I need the embodiment of people who gave their life to
35:49
Allah subhanaw, taala, and their life, to the service of impact
35:51
would be the companions of Imam, Hussain for like he was saying,
35:54
I think not that is off topic. But I remember every at the way
35:59
I see it is that I learned something.
36:01
I tried to learn something new. That happened in the mock
36:05
Turtle, something that happened on the 10th of Muharram.
36:07
That something I haven't picked up on before Max at something
36:10
that happened. I think it was last Muharram, it
36:12
hit me very Namely, I remember listening to them Excel when the
36:16
reciter go to Joan story. John Dee was the one of the
36:20
servants and House of Imam Hussain and when I listen to it
36:24
it broke me. I've listed I've heard every
36:26
year every year but I haven't focused on it.
36:28
This gauge a focus, I gave your focus, I thought about it I
36:31
listen to and it hit me and I was like this is what I want to
36:34
reach when he comes to him and her saying and he tells me I'm
36:37
on her saying let me fight let me fight for you Imam, Husain
36:41
look. Sam is it me?
36:41
And he we can't understand the compassion and the Heart of him.
36:44
Saying he looks at me tells him John you've served your whole
36:47
life in your whole life you've given us your service, you've
36:50
served in my house your whole life go he tells him be free go
36:53
find a plot of land. I've already interceded for you
36:56
go find somewhere live. There live your last days, leave
36:59
me you don't need to do, you know what John does?
37:01
And this is a lesson for me. There's a lesson for everyone.
37:04
When John hears this he falls onto the floor he collapses.
37:07
He starts kissing the feet of Imam Hussain I accessible holla
37:11
holla. Holla back he says Allah has Has
37:14
made life worth worthless off to you about dinner.
37:17
So I think if we apply that into our lives, if we apply that
37:22
without the service, without the love of Imam, Hussain that
37:25
genuinely were noting that even I was, I heard, one of the
37:29
lectures is our brain. And the pastor was talking about
37:32
where Sarah was a very hot topic right now and Bashar world where
37:35
Ceylon and the different views on it.
37:36
This is not love you. But this, this lecture was
37:39
saying it was imagined that the feeling listen to this and
37:41
Company. He was saying he was saying hi
37:43
Mom. Said he's pointing towards
37:45
direction of the shrine. He was saying I have no hope and
37:48
might there's nothing nothing that I do is good.
37:51
I have no hope and my lack of bad Deeds.
37:54
I'm filled with cinnamon with heinous crimes and acts and with
37:57
everything he says. I have no hope in my cellar
38:00
which I love my later. They'll pray tomorrow.
38:02
I missed it today. Operate tomorrow that just goes,
38:04
you pray late it says I have no hope in my car on that's been as
38:07
we read it once a year, my Ramadan and that's it.
38:09
He says my only hope is you got back.
38:12
He said you're the One that's holding my hand and taking me
38:16
and I think if we apply this hope and this love into our
38:20
daily life. Then I think we get a lot more
38:22
clarity on where we're going on. What we're trying to do if we
38:24
just based everything on the companions of Imam, Hussain on
38:28
the love song for a mom and her stylist and I'm as well.
38:31
Wow, beautiful. I feel like you've gone up the
38:34
pulpit. Honestly, I've learned so much.
38:44
Until you're doing so much. Last thing I want to ask you
38:47
before we wrap up, of course, of course you are.
38:51
You are trying to bring hosseini Spirit to London.
38:55
Okay. Yes, and especially with the
38:57
with work with shabaab. Yeah, different organizations,
39:00
different different, nude groups and so on and so forth, but also
39:03
kind of bringing in different cultures and communities, why
39:06
did you do that? Like, on a level?
39:08
I'm not, I don't want you to say, like I don't I don't want
39:10
you to give me. Like I want to serve them up.
39:12
I want to lecture Truly ask you in your prime years, like you
39:16
said, you're earning your money. Now you graduate, you got a
39:18
degree. Why why are you spending so much
39:22
of your time trying to serve a mom and her saying, what is it?
39:26
That's keeping you do that. It's a very tough question.
39:34
I think it's probably best summarized by a line of poetry
39:37
that I'm sure the seed with knows what I'm sure.
39:39
You know, the poet says, tip, kike Haney my eyes Cry For You,
39:43
which of course, is like a metaphor for all of us
39:45
everything that I do for you. About Abdullah said, chi chi.
39:48
I need Lolly Edgley, my Filbert's and I don't want throw
39:50
up. I don't want anything lacking
39:53
that. My I need the edge.
39:54
Lickable it Christ. Few.
39:56
Why do I serve not going to save it for me because I'm no one.
39:59
Why do you all serve? Especially in London especially
40:02
in the west is purely for a monitors in purely because your
40:06
heart can't contain what happened to Mommy.
40:10
I said like if you ask even you go to any of those kids in there
40:14
and that you're talking mentioning and capable of
40:16
because anybody could a girl be made humble, man.
40:18
My heart can't handle. Have to give something to my
40:20
embarrassing. And I feel like I tried to carry
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that. Why I serve?
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It's just what? What?
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Whoo, I love doing. Kenny is just what I feel like
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what brings me Bliss. It's what keeps me sane?
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What not that. I'm saying that I'm good or
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anything like that but I feel like it's was maybe save me from
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doing things. I shouldn't be doing from going
40:40
down avenues. That I shouldn't be going.
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Not that I've not that I'm stuff like any good or anything like
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that but the reason why I serve is just because it's my life's
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everything. I need.
40:51
Everything is a service of Imam Hussain.
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I wait the whole year it was like my whole arm come.
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Yeah, but I'm the lucky one, we miss it.
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Let my life my whole arm comes and flies by myself please.
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Guess I'll behind the serve you again are behind.
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Come throughout the whole year. Yeah, anytime we learned from
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Iraq and think I speak for a massive group of shabab who
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loved the service Imam Hussain. And I think, especially that you
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mentioned distractions earlier that we've got here.
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I think the, the main savior from these distractions, the
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main thing that we can work towards Imam Hussain.
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Yeah, honey there's no from from graduating, from working from
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earning money. You get a bit of any test you
41:30
feel. I think I need a bit of
41:31
happiness and bit of a flicker, some temporary kinds of
41:36
pleasure. But what I've seen that has
41:38
given me genuine happiness, and genuine, I wouldn't I would like
41:43
to say purpose but I'm not on that level but genuine Serenity
41:46
in my heart for me personally is a service of my messing.
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My so is the love of yourself, that's exactly.
41:51
All this is like the definition of Hubble has a known.
41:53
Honestly don't know. I honestly don't know.
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Make continuing even grow, but I just want to make something
42:03
clear to the viewers. We always credit a lot of the
42:08
shabaab in London and maybe of course works with occupy the
42:11
foundation. And we said in a previous
42:13
episode, the work that they're doing and the shabaab in that
42:17
organization. And many of the others are all
42:20
of the same ilk that media Smosh online from a young age.
42:23
What they've been doing is is truly truly inspirational and I
42:28
mean that it's a lesson to you and I say anything.
42:30
Of course, especially to me and Sharla long.
42:33
May it continue long, may your head must continue and may we
42:37
all continue to be the Servants of the servants because that is
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our ultimate goal in sha Allah. So yeah, you've inspired me to
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serve more last night but you've changed the whole perspective.
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Dude I wish I wish I could. Thank you very much.
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Thank you very much. I've spoken a bit too far.
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No know what? It's actually white was in
43:04
Greece. It was reflection.
43:06
This is what it is. It's something we're trying to
43:07
reflect a trainer trying to understand like you said, yeah,
43:11
like it's genuinely impossible to put into words how we feel
43:15
right now and I think hopefully for people at home who have not
43:18
been and want to go and show you can see the passion on from from
43:24
Maddie and saying earlier as well and and what they've
43:27
experienced and how they felt going and what it's done for
43:30
them and shot. So we can all go and be
43:31
together. Again, that's our goal.
43:33
Charlotte Bronte sisters. As always, we want to hear more
43:36
from you before you end the podcast.
43:38
It's my last. I just had something I wanted to
43:39
mention this in my life is that I spend about a minute or two.
43:43
Yeah. When we, when I went out of 90,
43:45
this year was a very different experience, okay?
43:49
Why and I have to mention this is because the mouth people,
43:53
like I came across that interacting with the podcast,
43:55
that's very true. I just want to say thank you to
43:58
everyone. That's hunt ruining in and, you
44:00
know, Engaging with the podcast and giving support to the
44:02
podcast and they've said, you know, some the things they have
44:05
learned from the conversations were having and I was saying to
44:07
another Brothers for me, it's just a conversation but to see
44:10
how it can impact someone's life as something out of control.
44:14
So it's want to thank agree and the base TV for allowing me to
44:18
be part of this change in people's lives and not as an
44:20
honor. Shall we can remain humble and I
44:22
want to mention three names as well.
44:24
My brother called more Tava called The Mortal.
44:27
The harrop by the way, while his name is Murtaza from Luton
44:31
rather Shana was from Manchester and one brother called Hider
44:34
from the UAE to buy. So, these are three people who
44:38
mashallah, you know, kept telling me I want to see.
44:41
I made, where is Ivan, please keep us on sisters and
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inshallah. We can remain humble and
44:53
continuing that. But yeah, like I said, we want
44:56
to hear from you. So we want to hear how you felt.
44:58
This has been our first Muharram season.
44:59
We've done. Number of episodes.
45:01
What have you enjoyed the most? Which episode did you like the
45:04
most? And what you want to see more of
45:05
because the coming weeks are going to be a completely
45:08
different. So I'm going to go back to
45:09
talking about different things, important topics every week,
45:13
very pertinent and relevant issues.
45:14
There's a lot happening in the world right now as I'm sure
45:17
everyone knows and it did, you know, we're right.
45:20
We release an episode every week, but it feels like there's
45:23
too much to talk about. So we want to try and prioritize
45:26
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45:27
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