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Episode 184 | No Hope · Corie Sheppard Podcast

0:20
Speaker 2: Bright and early every Tuesday morning, Wake up.
0:44
Speaker 2: Let me start you off with One you'll never hear.
0:47
Speaker 1: Now you hear this Since I get in with this red girl, deanne, every morning, she acting strange.
0:59
Speaker 1: I used to wine and dine without a plan.
1:03
Speaker 1: But now me eating habits change Because every morning day and in the kitchen Eating all me food, I'm still crying.
1:14
Speaker 1: Sweetie pie, I'm still late Breakfast.
1:19
Speaker 1: You are rich to work late Breakfast you move in lazily.
1:25
Speaker 1: Six o'clock on baby Soon it will be half past break, fast Break, fast Break, fast Break, fast, break fast.
1:54
Speaker 1: Chuck does warn me bout.
1:55
Speaker 1: She last July.
1:57
Speaker 1: He say he know she insane Martin.
1:59
Speaker 1: He say as soon as he open he eye she at the fireside cooking.
2:07
Speaker 1: Chucky say he took a stand.
2:10
Speaker 1: He must relax his man Before he pray fast with the hand.
2:16
Speaker 1: Sweetie pie, I'm still late, pray fast.
2:20
Speaker 1: You were rich to work late, pray fast.
2:23
Speaker 1: You're moving lazily.
2:26
Speaker 1: Six, six o'clock one baby Soon it will be our past break fast.
2:38
Speaker 2: Hey, welcome to episode 184 of the Corey Shepard Podcast.
2:41
Speaker 2: What's happening?
2:42
Speaker 2: Bright and early Tuesday morning, don't let nobody tell you the voice of the great King Obstinate.
2:48
Speaker 2: Salute to King Obstinate, one of the greatest ever dude Right Legendary.
2:51
Speaker 2: Google him.
2:52
Speaker 2: Google him.
2:53
Speaker 2: Songs for you.
2:54
Speaker 2: How's it going?
2:54
Speaker 2: How was Oli Week?
2:55
Speaker 2: Somebody tell me every week.
2:57
Speaker 2: I just tell them I have a productive weekend and I will check back in with nobody To see how the week was and if it was productive or not.
3:03
Speaker 2: I don't need to do that this week Because I only worked about one or two days last week.
3:07
Speaker 2: Very, very, very trendy, very trendy.
3:11
Speaker 2: I only enjoyed the short week.
3:13
Speaker 2: I only enjoyed the long weekend.
3:14
Speaker 2: I only had a good time.
3:16
Speaker 2: I only had a good time.
3:17
Speaker 2: I only had a good time.
3:18
Speaker 2: I only had a good time.
3:19
Speaker 2: I only had a good time.
3:21
Speaker 2: I only had a good plant, something you cook curry, what we do, what we do over the last week, and we're back for a long week again and we hear bright and early, despite popular belief, so where this went on, where this went on, where this went on, where I leave it last week, I'm feeling like right, where I leave it last week is where we had to pick it back up this week because a couple major stories going on in the country right now.
3:45
Speaker 2: Which one do you want me to start with?
3:47
Speaker 2: Do you want me to go with Christmas list?
3:49
Speaker 2: Christmas list come to Trinidad, as we said last week, went in every area.
3:54
Speaker 2: I hope, when I talk about it last week, oleg gets to go and look at it.
3:57
Speaker 2: Right, I hope Oleg gets to go and take it.
3:58
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying Because now all the videos that he do on YouTube that I was encouraging is going to check out last week, they are now removed from YouTube, silenced on his page, so, but you can see his older work, right, it's important for context for you to check out his older work, check out what he's been doing, because what he has done, what he did in Trinidad, is not different from what he was doing all about If you didn't tune in last week.
4:26
Speaker 2: Christmas is a popular youtuber.
4:27
Speaker 2: Salute to maurice burke.
4:27
Speaker 2: Right, maurice burke, stop calling all people content creators, but I think it's a journalist.
4:30
Speaker 2: I think it's pretty safe to say he's a youtuber and content creator who goes around and shows.
4:37
Speaker 2: Let me, let me put it like this right, he shows countries for what they are, more or less, because he is going into the deeper, darker areas.
4:47
Speaker 2: Let me talk about trend.
4:48
Speaker 2: That right he was in la joquita, he was in gonzalez, he was dong tong I think.
4:51
Speaker 2: He went seal us.
4:52
Speaker 2: He went several different areas where me and you probably wouldn't go right on our own accord unless, of course, we have a grinder account, because one of the new popular things in trend that is, if you don't have grinder and you don't know what grinder is, go and download it right and see if you find a match right, see if you find a match.
5:09
Speaker 2: Look for app called grinder, put it on your phone and look for a match.
5:12
Speaker 2: But what happened?
5:14
Speaker 2: What happened these days is people who looking for a mate, who, um, a mate let me just leave it at that right who looking for a mate, going and and use grinder to find people, because a long time you had to go in a club, you had to try and talk to somebody, you had to get the courage to go and talk to a woman and say that and try and see if you could gain on them, kind of thing.
5:33
Speaker 2: But that's not necessary anymore.
5:35
Speaker 2: People don't go through that again.
5:36
Speaker 2: People going straight to dating apps and they swipe left and they swipe right and who swipe right with them.
5:40
Speaker 2: You exchange your information.
5:42
Speaker 2: The way most of them has worked this is what I hear.
5:44
Speaker 2: This is what I hear.
5:45
Speaker 2: I don't know what the word is, but the way most of them has worked is that if you don't like the person, you swipe left.
5:50
Speaker 2: If you like the person, you swipe right, and when you swipe right and the other person swipes right to them, like you too, then we have a match and we could share each other's personal contact information.
6:00
Speaker 2: So the contact information, so the scene on grinder now is that people swiping right on everybody and everybody who's sweet you know you're more hot than sweet sometime and you want to match up and meet up with people.
6:13
Speaker 2: They're telling you come back to my apartment on um upper charlotte street, otherwise known as shaffer, come to my apartment, come to me on george street and meet me and man going.
6:23
Speaker 2: Now that man like so and so man going up in his spot in his hood, and that is about 12 man he meted which, according to how you're swinging, that could be a great time, but it's rub, people getting rubbed.
6:34
Speaker 2: So that's what.
6:34
Speaker 2: That's what is happening with people.
6:36
Speaker 2: But when me and you ain't going, uh, christmas tends to go right.
6:40
Speaker 2: Christmas is canadian christmas.
6:43
Speaker 2: Um, race and ethnicity is murky to me.
6:46
Speaker 2: I don't know if you black, white or indifferent.
6:48
Speaker 2: You look like a white boy from canada and what I was saying last week he was here and he went into several areas.
6:53
Speaker 2: I want to give him credit too, because he did cover despot's pannier.
6:57
Speaker 2: I believe he was with, uh, I think in liam teague that's your wrong name uh, one of the more popular pan men, the name not coming to mind right now.
7:06
Speaker 2: Uh, I believe he do maracas and bacon sharks.
7:09
Speaker 2: So it's not like he just he only do anything.
7:11
Speaker 2: But the point I was making last week is that you could see a vast difference in his views of controversial things like little youth men holding guns and gonzalez.
7:20
Speaker 2: Coincidentally, the second biggest story I come to talk about here today is coming out to gonzalez, right, well, it's shootout in the streets of gonzalez, overflowing into the hospital where me and you could be going for for care, or going to check a loved one, or going to work or passing by, and there's what we had a witness at strindad to be go now, this is where we come to, but christmas, going up in the hood show them fellas and then their face hidden, sometimes for the most part, and with some big guns 7.62 comes to mind, right with caliber bullets and so on that people walking around with, and it's a frightening sight.
7:53
Speaker 2: It's a frightening trinidad and tobago that we're looking at that, me and you, and I admit that I bury in my head in nissan.
8:00
Speaker 2: I was going to say that me and you might know anything about at all, but maybe it's just us burying our heads in nissan, because the the, the evidence is out there, the articles every day showing you the kind of weapons people use in his arm with every day.
8:10
Speaker 2: And that is what it was the weekend.
8:13
Speaker 2: I was saying that long weekends is bloody.
8:15
Speaker 2: It looked like gangsters take a relax.
8:17
Speaker 2: This weekend it wasn't as bad as some of the other long weekends before, but that's what christmas list is and that's what he does and he's been going around.
8:24
Speaker 2: I saw videos of him, as I said, from afghanistan and pakistan, several places in the states and so on, and he came here and did the very same thing.
8:33
Speaker 2: So he, soon after his biggest videos, published hundreds of thousands of views and so on.
8:42
Speaker 2: The news came out that he was arrested.
8:44
Speaker 2: Well, first it came out that he was missing.
8:46
Speaker 2: The first thing he hears that he was missing and nobody don't know where to find christmas and it's something like if one of them, thousand gonzalez, keep him.
8:53
Speaker 2: That's what it was something like initially.
8:54
Speaker 2: You remember the man walk walk across trinidad was his german fellow named little youth man.
8:59
Speaker 2: Walk all the way across the country.
9:00
Speaker 2: Now he planning to walk around tobago barefoot.
9:03
Speaker 2: Now you know, but he raising funds for loopers.
9:07
Speaker 2: So it's a good cause.
9:08
Speaker 2: But the attention grabbing thing of this era on youtube and content creators is the currency comes in the form of the likes and the shares.
9:16
Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, like and share and subscribe this video, right, and turn on notifications.
9:20
Speaker 2: I always forget to say that, but the currency comes from there because the more people let me like, from an algorithm standpoint, right, if I put up a podcast this weekend, a lot of people rush to see it as soon as it come on.
9:32
Speaker 2: There's a point of turning on notifications.
9:33
Speaker 2: If plenty of people rush to see it one time it will suggest it to other people who like you and uh, I will get my views up and potentially, if my views go high enough, my subscribers get high enough.
9:45
Speaker 2: That's how I get paid.
9:46
Speaker 2: So for the people who say like doing it for the likes, and doing it Doing it for the likes have money behind it.
9:51
Speaker 2: If I put out videos there that gain a lot of traction, as we see, with people like Christmas and his name is Chris Hughes, right, just like I'm saying, christmas is over and over.
10:00
Speaker 2: It's also it feels so dumb.
10:01
Speaker 2: But if you're getting that attention, that attention could lead to a good little income for you.
10:08
Speaker 2: Keep in mind when Christmas going up in these spots, Christmas Gucci dong you know Gucci dong to the socks.
10:15
Speaker 2: You know what I mean To meet with the gangsters and so on and pan them.
10:19
Speaker 2: But he was the guy who was walking across Trinidad and planned to walk across Tobago Barefoot or around Tobago Barefoot.
10:24
Speaker 2: He come on almost in tears and shaking and saying he frightened because christmas missing.
10:29
Speaker 2: And they now find out christmas guy arrested.
10:31
Speaker 2: Several local influencers or uh, area leaders, community figures and so on that he would have interviewed was spreading concern across the socials saying christmas gone.
10:42
Speaker 2: Now christmas is arrested.
10:43
Speaker 2: The information was coming for I don't think I ever see anybody from here published as much as this person over the last four days, every every newspaper, when I say newspaper talking uh, uh trinidad, what you call them, express guardian news day, along with even the uh the news websites like loop, loop, tt well, don't talk for myob and the, the social media news sites to news before the news stink to all of them several times per day seeing articles coming out about this.
11:19
Speaker 2: And this is the point I'm making, right.
11:21
Speaker 2: My overarching point, as I was saying last week, is that sometimes the way we treat with foreigners, there's so much local video creators here, content creators, podcasters like myself who's struggling for some views on some coverage, and again I want to credit Michael Mondesi, who would have highlighted people like Certified Samson, junior Lee and and the crew doing with putting a lot of work and doing work here.
11:44
Speaker 2: But you have so much content creators here struggling to find their way in this space and who would love the kind of coverage.
11:51
Speaker 2: I would love somebody to write articles.
11:53
Speaker 2: Give me two articles a day for a whole long weekend.
11:55
Speaker 2: You know what I mean To promote what it is I come in to talk about, but we fetishize foreigners.
12:02
Speaker 2: You know I want to stop short of saying white people, right, but we fetishize foreigners.
12:04
Speaker 2: You know I want to stop short of just short of saying white people, right, but we fetishize foreigners.
12:07
Speaker 2: Where number one, the fetish came when we saw it last week, where they could get access to go into areas to do videos and answer questions and speak to them.
12:17
Speaker 2: I don't feel I could do that.
12:19
Speaker 2: I don't know if I get any kind of content you get if I go into the area and I don't know if I get any kind of views you get.
12:24
Speaker 2: I was a trinidad and, to be good, I just go as a trini going there and doing this kind of thing.
12:31
Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody following that people, I, I, I have my doubts right, but the the warm and welcoming and loving arms that people open up, people like johnny, bravo, and, uh, philip alex, not philip alexander, sergeant alexander and and the likes of the people who we saw in the videos, the youths, the subjects of the videos, because his, his headline or his, his title for the video is going into the the most wanted men turned out to be with sensationalized too.
12:59
Speaker 2: So, again, as an algorithm game, because the way it's titled, the videos as well, cause more people to want to click on it and that's the fetishizing of it.
13:08
Speaker 2: You're seeing the fetishizing of foreigners.
13:10
Speaker 2: Again, when this is the biggest story.
13:12
Speaker 2: He get locked up.
13:13
Speaker 2: A lot of people get locked up here all the time for all different types of things.
13:16
Speaker 2: Uh, I, I, I so did.
13:18
Speaker 2: Maurice book.
13:19
Speaker 2: I was glad to be able to follow some of the things that maurice was uh posting and also he's a man like to debate right, much more than me I.
13:29
Speaker 2: I like to talk into a mic and turn off my.
13:31
Speaker 2: I forget what I say, but I think he was making such an important point to people where they were talking about sedition in the without, without looking through what these sedition laws are, the, the sedition law, these laws available to everybody.
13:44
Speaker 2: If you google trinidad sedition law, you will see it's a little bit as a long document, but I find when they first had that anti-gang legislation, the whole thing leaves a lot of room for interpretation by the enforcers of the law, the police in this case.
14:02
Speaker 2: Right, there's.
14:04
Speaker 2: There's things I've said on this podcast before over the years where I show if somebody wanted to come and say that I was, I could be charged for sedition or accused of sedition.
14:15
Speaker 2: I haven't read some episodes.
14:17
Speaker 2: They could go through this and find enough to say sedition.
14:20
Speaker 2: Now understand why the laws exist as well.
14:22
Speaker 2: Right, because falling under the umbrella of a wider anti-gang legislation.
14:28
Speaker 2: The premise is that the way gangs are organized, you have to have an organized approach to dealing with them.
14:35
Speaker 2: And it's like the old thing where they catch Al Capone on tax evasion, right, rather than you can't catch them from, where they're so organized and well-hidden and he calls the shot.
14:45
Speaker 2: He never does the thing himself.
14:46
Speaker 2: So when you're trying to bring down a crime syndicate or a mob family, it's very, very difficult to do so.
14:51
Speaker 2: Every country, probably any world, you will find laws like these where we have to deal with organized crime and it takes an organized approach.
15:01
Speaker 2: And I want to go a step further to say, uh, an approach that allows law enforcement to do what needs to be done, if you understand what I mean without, without the normal little normal rigor of evidence and so on, at least to bring people in for questioning and so on, if not to be able to charge and hold people and that is what they hold him with.
15:20
Speaker 2: Uh, based on what that law that maurice would have published or that available online, he's done enough to be charged with this.
15:28
Speaker 2: I don't think they could.
15:29
Speaker 2: I seen people saying the thing.
15:30
Speaker 2: But of course, again, the fetishizing of foreigners is where in the comments you're seeing a whole bunch of people commenting how it's unjust without knowing, before they even know, what he charged for.
15:42
Speaker 2: It's unjust and this and that my thing is it's just I'm not sure is it.
15:47
Speaker 2: Is that a bad strategy by the police?
15:49
Speaker 2: Let me take all them things off the table.
15:50
Speaker 2: Is that bad strategy by the police to bring this man in to see his raw footage, to find out what was said and what was said by whom and who planning what and who going against and who's six and seven, eight and nine?
16:02
Speaker 2: Is it strategy?
16:04
Speaker 2: Or if you was watching a Netflix movie, right.
16:06
Speaker 2: If you was watching Narcos, right.
16:08
Speaker 2: Narcos, mexico and the Federales had bring in a blogger who went into the Sinaloa cartel and get a whole lot of information about them and they brought that person in for questioning or to take the information or to take the tapes.
16:22
Speaker 2: Would you tune in to the next episode?
16:24
Speaker 2: Wouldn't you find out?
16:24
Speaker 2: Like there's great police work, you know?
16:26
Speaker 2: I mean, I just ask that question.
16:28
Speaker 2: Or did you ever watch a movie where the fbi was able to plant somebody in a new york crime family?
16:35
Speaker 2: I want to say it's a gambino family, if I'm not mistaken.
16:38
Speaker 2: Uh, donnie brasco, I believe, is the name of the movie, you know.
16:42
Speaker 2: So I I find we don't do enough for that type of work, where because if foreigners is what we like so much, and I know that bringing a foreigner in the country could get you to give up information that you wouldn't otherwise give up and that will allow me to be able to move against you under anti-gang or any other legislation.
17:05
Speaker 2: I ain't talking about christmas, I'm talking about a random situation.
17:08
Speaker 2: Right, if I am earlier, or whoever responsible, minister, national security, one of the things I could do is say, hey, let me find the best crime bloggers all over the world, let me, let me cut a deal with these people and tell them listen, all I want from you is to go in there and talk to these people.
17:24
Speaker 2: All them tapes you have in the end there is mine.
17:27
Speaker 2: I am sure one of these YouTubers or vloggers will make the deal, or wait for them to come and lock them up like a lock of Christmas.
17:34
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
17:35
Speaker 2: I would admit that some part of me feels good when I see white folks get locked up.
17:41
Speaker 2: You've met with unjust.
17:42
Speaker 2: Sometimes I mean, we went through this for 400 years, so part of me just feel good about that.
17:46
Speaker 2: Sorry, I would like to apologize for that statement in advance, right, uh, but do this work like undercover work?
17:53
Speaker 2: I'm not sure you know sting operation, like how much of those things we do.
17:57
Speaker 2: You know, you see it on any crime show you watch or any show about cartels or the drug world or the underworld.
18:02
Speaker 2: You find that those are is common types of police and work.
18:06
Speaker 2: You find it all over the place.
18:08
Speaker 2: So, uh, I just asking myself, you know, if, if, if, we against the idea of him getting arrested or the police using him for information because he's a foreigner and we don't like foreigners, like a lot of people real concerned about trinidad reputation.
18:24
Speaker 2: All of a sudden people saying they bring this big international vlogger here and they're gonna lock him up.
18:29
Speaker 2: Trinidad looking bad again, looking like a two by four country, and I'm thinking, well, first, I'm thinking that, number one, I don't think anybody cares.
18:38
Speaker 2: Nobody pays attention to these issues in the same way that we think people pay attention to them here.
18:43
Speaker 2: I mean, people generally don't.
18:45
Speaker 2: I, I, I this is this domestic issues.
18:49
Speaker 2: I would love for us to run a quick poll online to find out how much nobody in studying none of them, things that that are happening here, and I would, I would say as well, if they did.
19:01
Speaker 2: How you think we looking?
19:03
Speaker 2: No, before Christmas, come here and get locked up.
19:08
Speaker 2: You don't think we was looking good and internationalized, like we looking like we have things under control and things so great.
19:13
Speaker 2: I don't know that police embarrassing us in any way.
19:15
Speaker 2: So I would assume that, beyond what was published on the video, it would be useful for them to look at all the raw footage, find out what other information he knows and and move on that.
19:26
Speaker 2: Now I will say that, having had held him there for a full, long weekend as I'm recording this now, seeing where they're saying that he, he was granted bail but, uh, they have to get his passport and so on, which is lodged in the canadian embassy I believe that's where he was from and, uh, he, he is going to be given his bill, a hundred thousand dollars bill, once they can hold on to his passport, so he can leave again.
19:54
Speaker 2: The sedition coming from the showing the guys with guns and videos, but people sending threat you're facilitating gang, uh, gang activity or gang warfare, which is what it comes down to with the sedition laws, and you, you'll get your.
20:08
Speaker 2: That facilitating could be financing.
20:10
Speaker 2: It could be glorifying, it could be using your platform for one to send threat to the next.
20:15
Speaker 2: It could be.
20:16
Speaker 2: It could be basically exposing six to seven.
20:19
Speaker 2: All that could be considered sedition under the laws.
20:21
Speaker 2: So, uh, he should be back out, if not tonight, tomorrow.
20:27
Speaker 2: I saw his attorney, kristen kristen somebody.
20:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, you would think that I don't have articles in front of me to talk about this, right, this is so great when you try to shoot from the hip a little bit.
20:37
Speaker 2: But, um, his attorney, one of the last things I saw from his attorney is that he is pulling out of the case, which looks something, something not exactly right.
20:49
Speaker 2: There was a point over the weekend where it was rumored that he was taken on a tour like the police take him out of the cell, carry him up in all the areas and ask him to point out things.
21:00
Speaker 2: From the way he talks, I don't think he will point out anything.
21:02
Speaker 2: I don't think he will be very cooperative with the police like this from alexander bruzal from the express christmas less, christmas list tour did not happen.
21:10
Speaker 2: The ternanto mego police service has denied that canadian youtuber christopher hughes was taken on a tour of various areas of lavendel and east portisbane on saturday.
21:18
Speaker 2: Senior ttps officials told the express yesterday that this information was not released through the corporate communication department nor any senior officer involved in the investigation.
21:28
Speaker 2: The express was stolen friday by two ctps officers, that hughes was ticked was to be taken on a tour of areas in laventel and east border, spain, as the investigation into his videos featuring gang members continue, uh, so that that that rise and and died fast.
21:45
Speaker 2: Before we could uh, before we could get any more information about it, they they denied it and the latest news is that he is given bail.
21:57
Speaker 2: So I I'm sure he will, I'm sure he will be vocal when he comes out.
22:04
Speaker 2: He will be back on his Instagram.
22:06
Speaker 2: You see him petitions going around uh, which all our trend that in signing and so on.
22:10
Speaker 2: Uh, reading from the express, again from Ricky Ramdas YouTube and blogger blogger Christopher Hughes, better known as Christmas list, was on Monday afternoon granted bail and some of a hundred thousand by a master of the high court.
22:24
Speaker 2: Hughes was taken into custody last tuesday.
22:26
Speaker 2: Charge on wednesday evening under oh sorry, last tuesday, and charged on wednesday evening under section 4.1 of the sedition act.
22:32
Speaker 2: The charge stemmed from a video he posted.
22:38
Speaker 2: Uh, one sec, sorry the charge, this charge stemmed.
22:42
Speaker 2: If I could read this would be good enough.
22:44
Speaker 2: The charge stemmed from a video he posted on youtube.
22:47
Speaker 2: After meeting various gang members in trend, I'd given them a platform to showcase their firepower.
22:51
Speaker 2: Many of the gang members were brandishing high-powered weapons as they.
22:55
Speaker 2: As they were interviewed by hughes this afternoon, master margaret sukharaj goswami granted bail to hughes in the summer of $100,000 to be approved by the Registrar of the High Court, or a cash alternative of $10,000.
23:07
Speaker 2: The master also ordered that his passport that is currently in the possession of the Canadian High Commission be handed over to the High Court Registrar by noon tomorrow.
23:17
Speaker 2: Once he's able to access bail.
23:18
Speaker 2: Sukraj Goswami directed that he reside at the home of Kristen J Williams in West Trinidad until he reappears in court on Tuesday morning at 9 am there.
23:28
Speaker 2: So Kristen Williams is your third name, right?
23:30
Speaker 2: And I wonder like this this is a normal practice in the in in illegal for something like how?
23:38
Speaker 2: The court ordering that he had to stay by me?
23:40
Speaker 2: I see, lawyer, he has to home by me.
23:42
Speaker 2: I had to entertain christmas, all right, christmas in july, they say.
23:48
Speaker 2: Williams, who was seeking hughes's legal interest, since his arrest yesterday indicated to the high court that he was withdrawing himself from the matter, but he had no issue with hughes staying at his residence for only two days.
24:00
Speaker 2: That is weird to me.
24:01
Speaker 2: I don't understand.
24:02
Speaker 2: Like what like?
24:04
Speaker 2: You's a big youtuber, you have a whole set of views.
24:07
Speaker 2: You come here, you have money, like pay and stay at a hilton to hire.
24:10
Speaker 2: It was except white folks, like why you had to stay home by one of the attorneys, especially the attorney done with drawer from the case.
24:17
Speaker 2: Already that those strike you all as odd, something, something right.
24:21
Speaker 2: Former attorney general anand ramlogan and Russell Warner Appeared for Hughes During the hearing, while Assistant Director Of Public Prosecution Daniel Thompson Appeared on behalf of the state.
24:30
Speaker 2: Okay, so I stand to see.
24:31
Speaker 2: You know what I mean when you say Something attorney's name, calling you here the politicizing of issues.
24:38
Speaker 2: You tend to find that when once issues go beyond a certain level of popularity, political parties will get involved.
24:50
Speaker 2: Evidence of this to be found in the Newsday by Nerissa Fraser, unc defends Christmas list.
24:56
Speaker 2: He's giving a voice to the people the PNM neglected.
24:59
Speaker 2: It was just a matter of time, and I tell you there's no end to the amount of articles I could read about this here.
25:08
Speaker 2: Opposition Senator David Nackett none other than him is defending Canadian YouTuber Christopher Christmas List Hughes, saying he's simply giving a voice to the young people in the ghetto.
25:18
Speaker 2: These same people, he added, have been neglected by the government.
25:21
Speaker 2: I so use 45 was arrested.
25:24
Speaker 2: Uses 45 this is impressive, mawal, my little noxema neutrogena and them thing wicked.
25:30
Speaker 2: Use 45 was arrested and charged with sedition last week after a police investigation into some of his vlogs in trinidad and tobago which featured alleged gang members.
25:38
Speaker 2: He is set up in court.
25:40
Speaker 2: Well, you know all this already, right.
25:41
Speaker 2: So he appearing in court, he's trying to get his thing sorted out.
25:44
Speaker 2: He do that today.
25:44
Speaker 2: They grant him bail.
25:45
Speaker 2: So, uh, is it is, it is it.
25:49
Speaker 2: Can I get you out of this edition if I say unc lawyer and I probably shouldn't say that, right, but when you hear the names who kristen williams get per side, he's a small fry, you know.
25:58
Speaker 2: I mean, the big boys have come in and big names are now behind this from a legal standpoint.
26:03
Speaker 2: So we wait to see where this is go, where this goes.
26:06
Speaker 2: We wait to see what the statements made by christmas list would be.
26:09
Speaker 2: Because, having traveled so much in the world, dealt with gangs, dealt with several situations like these, I expect that he may want to remove himself from any political affiliation or alignment, much like he has done with the situation with the gangs.
26:23
Speaker 2: He is basically saying he has no alignment with any gang or any kind of thing like that.
26:27
Speaker 2: So, uh, I expect him to do the same, but I expect, uh, I expect, that I wouldn't be surprised let me say it like that, right, I wouldn't be surprised if we find that the UNC well-willing and able to try to parade him around as part of the campaign that the government is not doing what it's supposed to do for youth in depressed areas and so on, and fueling the crime and all in all the argument.
26:56
Speaker 2: That's going to come right.
26:57
Speaker 2: So more on that Christmas-less situation.
26:59
Speaker 2: That's going to come right.
27:00
Speaker 2: So more on that Christmas-ly situation.
27:01
Speaker 2: I mean, I come here to talk about fetishizing foreigners and I'm a damn self-dunter about foreigners.
27:04
Speaker 2: For half or any beginning of the podcast, you had to love it, right, you had to love it.
27:10
Speaker 2: I want you to know that any chance I get to play this song.
27:28
Speaker 3: I speak right.
27:29
Speaker 3: I don't mind when they try to treat me unkind and take away what is mine.
27:32
Speaker 3: These are things I could put behind, but I demand respect from the country man who, at least they should understand In a way.
27:44
Speaker 3: I'm an alien, that is, an man who believe Me.
27:52
Speaker 3: Own people Call me Foreigner.
27:58
Speaker 1: Foreigner.
28:18
Speaker 3: Foreigner, foreigner, foreigner, for enough.
28:23
Speaker 3: For everyone who doubt, I'm a native son.
28:26
Speaker 3: Both me parents are dead and gone In Tobago where I was born.
28:31
Speaker 3: Bless their soul, without a doubt.
28:35
Speaker 3: Anything that you talking about In my country, from north or south, I could walk straight and point it out.
28:42
Speaker 3: You should shame to call me foreigner.
28:52
Speaker 3: Surrender, surrender.
28:53
Speaker 3: I was around.
29:23
Speaker 3: When they now bring trolley in town and tram car running up and down Round the sub and around and round, I was there when the preacher they call those gay, make them crucify my day as I will run to drag him away.
29:38
Speaker 3: So when you say man In my land Is, I will run to drag him away.
29:41
Speaker 3: So I say man In my land.
29:44
Speaker 3: Immigration.
29:47
Speaker 1: Stops, me.
29:48
Speaker 1: Forever, forever, forever, forever, forever.
29:58
Speaker 3: Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh oh oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
30:17
Speaker 3: Who has got?
30:18
Speaker 3: No, but a man born in Tobago, who's the big Jackson Bonito Does just stay so and jump for sure.
30:25
Speaker 3: And who again will know Sugoya and Dwen and Lajap, less walking like men Telling you go come, let me go, mama yo, so I come, so I go.
30:42
Speaker 1: But the world will call me Foreigner, foreigner, foreigner, foreigner, foreigner, foreigner.
31:04
Speaker 2: Voice of the great Lord Nelson, right as he fetishizes on foreigners.
31:08
Speaker 2: That's the name of the episode, because we're treating we own like foreigners.
31:12
Speaker 2: But we're treating foreigners like kings, Even the way we lock them up.
31:17
Speaker 2: You know we don't put them inside with other people and so on.
31:19
Speaker 2: You know we just keep them sitting on a chair for the whole long weekend and things.
31:22
Speaker 2: So I hear.
31:22
Speaker 2: So I hear, I don't know how, true.
31:23
Speaker 2: Now the other story coming out of Gonzales is this thing with the hospital, right.
31:27
Speaker 2: But before I get into that, I'll tell you a little bit more about my weekend.
31:29
Speaker 2: A little bit, right, you don't really know how, had a long weekend, right?
31:39
Speaker 2: Don't plan on telling them, but I tell all of you.
31:43
Speaker 2: I had class going on on Saturdays and things.
31:45
Speaker 2: When I had class I used to be tired and every little thing I do in class these days.
31:48
Speaker 2: I used to do class from sometimes 8 in the morning until 5, 6 in the evening.
31:52
Speaker 2: Me and Dan used to do that Saturday and Sunday and then other days I used to have class half past 5 to half past eight every day of the week, monday to Friday, and then do class whole day Saturday and whole day Sunday.
32:03
Speaker 2: But you see, age.
32:07
Speaker 2: I want to tell you right that now my class is eight o'clock in the morning on a Saturday to ten o'clock and, like I just can't recover, it's taken me a whole day just to catch back myself from that one little class.
32:21
Speaker 2: So I relax more after class.
32:22
Speaker 2: Salute to my class.
32:25
Speaker 2: I have a class on digital economy, you know I mean then a good class, so I enjoy in that class the people with the online class thing.
32:28
Speaker 2: It's so difficult talking to this blank screen every day until I tell you a student.
32:31
Speaker 2: Tell me the other day.
32:32
Speaker 2: She say she said, well, I started listening to your podcast and she was living in germany at the time and she said that I just listen to your podcast all the time.
32:39
Speaker 2: And she said class kind of like a podcast.
32:41
Speaker 2: I can't listen to that.
32:42
Speaker 2: But she says, listen to it while I'm driving and just follow it and that's how she get information.
32:46
Speaker 2: So, uh, a 3D class now more like a podcast, and just say what I have to say and cover what I need to cover.
32:52
Speaker 2: But this class is very interactive so they make it easy.
32:54
Speaker 2: But tired I was when that class was done, only to get reminded from absolutely chester sombrano and nigel nicholson and all them at star broadcasting, to get reminded that I have a podcasting class to do sunday.
33:09
Speaker 2: So I was like I had to go and do this thing.
33:11
Speaker 2: I tell myself I relax and when sunday come, you know me, I say, well, that is it.
33:14
Speaker 2: I out, I done work for the weekend, uh, and I had to go and do this class.
33:18
Speaker 2: But it's funny enough, right, I've been lecturing since 2010 maybe I get old enough since maybe 2010 and, as I say, I lecture tthdi, ctl, cts.
33:31
Speaker 2: I do lectures for ue and for lockjack volunteer.
33:35
Speaker 2: They never pay me.
33:35
Speaker 2: Uh, I used to lecture in School of Higher Education in South and Nations University in Barbados, in Guyana, sorry, and it's like I get used to doing that and you just show up for class.
33:51
Speaker 2: But somehow, right, this podcasting class, which is maybe the least complicated topic I talk about.
33:59
Speaker 2: You know, sometimes I have classes on econ or on digital economy.
34:02
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's complex topics with heavy verse and chapter coming behind it and I guide students through two assignments or something.
34:10
Speaker 2: Literally, the podcasting class.
34:12
Speaker 2: All I need to go and do is show up and talk about my experience podcasting, the things I do and so on, but for some reason that makes me real nervous.
34:20
Speaker 2: I never seen nothing like this in my life.
34:22
Speaker 2: I'll be doing breath control, and so I'm not sure what it is about that.
34:25
Speaker 2: Well, I show up for regular classes and land the plane every single time.
34:30
Speaker 2: I mean, I land the plane with the podcast in class too.
34:33
Speaker 2: But you know there's talk about this.
34:35
Speaker 2: Um, any oliver, deal with this imposter syndrome thing.
34:38
Speaker 2: I I when use these modern terms, you know what I mean.
34:42
Speaker 2: I don't know what some of these things mean.
34:43
Speaker 2: I too old for some of these new modern concepts and terms, but I'm not sure what it is.
34:50
Speaker 2: But when they introduced me Salute to Chester.
34:52
Speaker 2: The course is a TV and podcasting course, right?
34:55
Speaker 2: So the students usually went through there on camera and they know what it takes to deliver content and so on on camera.
35:00
Speaker 2: Through there on camera, and they know, they know what it takes to deliver content and so on on camera.
35:03
Speaker 2: So I usually come in late in the course to just guide them through.
35:06
Speaker 2: Basically and my lecturing experience is tell me how to set up a lecture too, right.
35:10
Speaker 2: So I was like all right, I'll tell them a little bit about what podcasting is.
35:13
Speaker 2: Get them engaged on what local podcast or foreign podcast they listen to tell them about my journey and experience doing it, tell them how I come up with content.
35:20
Speaker 2: Then the technical side like what software?
35:22
Speaker 2: I have a little presentation done.
35:24
Speaker 2: It's not like if I'm showing up unprepared and I'm fully prepared, I know what I'm going to talk about.
35:28
Speaker 2: But it's been nervous, care, breed, heart jumping out my chest, kind of thing, for every time I do it with the first five, ten minutes, like I can't get the words out.
35:36
Speaker 2: But I'll tell you like is it turning out to be one?
35:39
Speaker 2: And the salute to nigel right, nigel nicholson from star, 94.7 months.
35:43
Speaker 2: I wonder if they did the short pain, nigel's one and nigel gain a, a pay cut for bir purposes.
35:48
Speaker 2: But I wonder if I will get paid, nigel, I want to pay cut alone with bir too, but when, when, when I do get it done and I get to meet these, these folks.
36:03
Speaker 2: It's one of the more rewarding classes that is doing, though, because, uh, I think I underestimate sometimes how much, how much I would learn along the way to get to 180, something of anything, to do something, 100 and something times is a lot, uh, and the amount that I would learn and and and is always encouraging to meet other people who say I want to start a podcast and then, and then people especially, uh, in the in the class on sunday had genuine questions like about how I come up with content, how I do the thing, how I edit, how long I take to edit, like, and I keep wondering, like nigel, I say I have to bring my screaming and kicking into this.
36:42
Speaker 2: I was like Nigel I don't think I have any value to offer.
36:45
Speaker 2: What can I possibly offer anybody when it comes to podcasting?
36:50
Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure this thing out myself.
36:52
Speaker 2: I mean, anybody who's listening to this, all of you who listened to this for some time, right, all of you that know Aiza man is part blurry episode.
37:00
Speaker 2: Sometimes he's screen blank.
37:02
Speaker 2: Sometimes I tell them two weeks ago I bought a screen.
37:05
Speaker 2: I did the video must start about 50 something minutes into into the recording.
37:11
Speaker 2: I, I, I, not.
37:12
Speaker 2: I don't consider myself good at this.
37:14
Speaker 2: I also don't consider myself, um, I'd like where I need to be because I'm not monetizing this thing.
37:20
Speaker 2: They're making money for me.
37:21
Speaker 2: At this point in time, it feels kind of like you're fraud talking when you're trying to explain to people where's our podcast, and I had to talk to Chester about this thing where they're introducing me as the greatest podcaster in Trinidad and Tobago.
37:37
Speaker 2: Them selling their product, you know them selling their product.
37:41
Speaker 2: Them trying to make sure that the students happy because podcast in Trinidad and Tobago, them selling their product, you know them selling their product.
37:44
Speaker 2: And I'm trying to make sure that the students happy because, uh, gratefully, I find I find it to be a positive things that a lot of these students are interested in podcasts, some of them so young and I was like why don't you start a YouTube channel?
37:55
Speaker 2: Talk about anything like when you're over the I've done it maybe about three or four times now and you have people who are interested in doing like a makeup artist page or some very interesting.
38:06
Speaker 2: I met one guy on Sunday who wanted to do one about sales.
38:09
Speaker 2: Another person wants to do she said she is a the word life coach come into mind.
38:16
Speaker 2: Right, but I know I have that wrong.
38:18
Speaker 2: But what she says she helps you to get past your limiting beliefs.
38:25
Speaker 2: Somehow that statement stay with me a lot, you know, because I even need showing up there to say I go to a lecture on something that I don't feel like good at.
38:32
Speaker 2: When you think about it is a limiting belief.
38:35
Speaker 2: I talk about a young girl, you know, so I don't just want to bring her on and have her talk about some of that.
38:40
Speaker 2: I eager to have her to do that, but I also want to maybe book a session with her to talk about, like, why do we have some of these limiting beliefs?
38:47
Speaker 2: There's no evidence to show that I can't deliver a lecture.
38:52
Speaker 2: There's no evidence to show that people might not be interested in somebody who's done something for a long time.
38:57
Speaker 2: There's also no evidence to show that you had to make a whole lot of money off something or some other be successful on commercial terms for people to want to know about it or understand what you did or understand how you get there.
39:08
Speaker 2: There's no evidence for any of that.
39:09
Speaker 2: But, boy, I listen.
39:10
Speaker 2: I carry that burden real heavy.
39:12
Speaker 2: So maybe I need to meet with her about these limiting beliefs and my limiting language, but my most enjoyable part of the class.
39:20
Speaker 2: All in all, as I say, I'm very culture biased and one student, because why is do right is when I real nervous and I can't breathe, I just make other people introduce themselves so I could gather my little frills and get myself together, so I could at least land the plane right.
39:35
Speaker 2: And one girl started to introduce herself.
39:38
Speaker 2: Her name is and she was talking about her background and she's doing her masters and she's in UTT.
39:44
Speaker 2: Impressive, impressive, everything she said.
39:46
Speaker 2: Even you know what's enjoyable in that class when people introduce themselves.
39:49
Speaker 2: Because it's a, because it's a media course, people introduce themselves and they're already eloquent, they know how to talk, they know how to project and so on.
39:59
Speaker 2: And so, coincidentally, there was a girl in that class by the name of candice chanel bant, and I'll tell you she was one of the people who, when I was looking for a co-host, I wanted to do it, I wanted to work with candice and it's something that I will do at some point in time introduce her co-host, maybe different format, whatever it is she on, it seems, the 93.5.
40:20
Speaker 2: You know, if my memory was good, that would be good.
40:22
Speaker 2: But, um, you know, I saw her there.
40:26
Speaker 2: She's doing the TV course now.
40:27
Speaker 2: So I wish her all the best and all the luck and all that.
40:29
Speaker 2: I used to work with her overnight on Iowa Station and it was one of the.
40:33
Speaker 2: It's seamless.
40:34
Speaker 2: God this and I is putting on a good show.
40:45
Speaker 2: But when I reached to kitora and she introduced herself and told her masters and everything so impressive.
40:48
Speaker 2: And in the end of the thing she kind of whisper well, uh, the mystic prowler is my father.
40:50
Speaker 2: And then I got into groupie mode immediately, his immediate groupie mode.
40:51
Speaker 2: His immediate groupie mode because what he has contributed to calypso as a calypso monarch himself, but what he's contributed to calypso as a defender of the art form and somebody who created and founded a space to showcase the art form, is already inspiring to me and something that I I enjoy hearing any stories that have.
41:11
Speaker 2: But what I will tell you is that we had a great conversation.
41:14
Speaker 2: She also, we, we aligned, as she say.
41:17
Speaker 2: Our meeting is divine and she's helping to push me in a direction that I don't know I was supposed to go in a long time ago.
41:25
Speaker 2: So appreciating that class more and more.
41:28
Speaker 2: And I will try my best to get over this thing where I am constantly feeling like I have nothing to lend or nothing to offer in spaces that, uh, I I already enjoyed.
41:43
Speaker 2: I enjoy podcasting as a listener, I enjoy podcasting as somebody who, delivering podcasts and so on.
41:48
Speaker 2: So I'll try to just settle myself, take deep breaths and whatever you're supposed to do.
41:53
Speaker 2: Well, the psychiatrists say having anxiety attack.
41:55
Speaker 2: I'll try to hold it together and get it done and I enjoy the landscape of trinidad and to be especially.
42:01
Speaker 2: We're hearing from that class and what you're seeing more and more when you see uh kiva and them fellas doing a podcast.
42:06
Speaker 2: Salute to the monday morning podcast die good talk, they do great.
42:09
Speaker 2: Uh dapper talks, all this stuff with them, they do uh great work.
42:12
Speaker 2: There's there's one called um he he ho, I think is the name of it them fellas doing good work.
42:21
Speaker 2: So they have plenty, plenty podcasters out there who put in in the work.
42:25
Speaker 2: Salute acacia devil talion, a lot of people.
42:27
Speaker 2: Salute, of course, to my boys and I hope they come back one day who do the alternative perspective podcast.
42:33
Speaker 2: Salute to judah naldo.
42:36
Speaker 1: But boy listeners with a heavy heart that I had to say, rest in peace to esther and Danzo ¶¶, for they are gone Now, all that's left is a faint memory Based on the theme of a strange melody.
43:31
Speaker 1: Still, we must think of them and recall their image with time Telling people from deep inside.
43:41
Speaker 1: This is dedicated to those who died, but in this I'll always remember Jumping when I steal vampires, late mass Sugary peppery, but was never, ever one.
44:04
Speaker 1: Steel vampires, blade masks Sugary peppery, but was never, ever one.
44:09
Speaker 1: For class Butran it is wherever you are, I'll come back, just for you.
44:13
Speaker 1: I came out with real fire this year, this year, this year.
44:42
Speaker 1: This lyrics, right, each and everyone I know Some good day will have to go right back From where they came.
44:53
Speaker 1: But, good or bad, we must try all the same Not to be sad.
45:03
Speaker 1: Good or bad, we must try all the same Not to be sad or heaps gone on their name and every girl and boy who are sharing my sympathies, I must tell you this song is just dedicated to memories.
45:24
Speaker 1: George Bailey, I'll always remember Jumping when them big band bands Pulled eight months Sugaring memory.
45:37
Speaker 1: George was never, ever one for class.
45:41
Speaker 1: George Bailey, wherever you are, come back, just for you.
45:47
Speaker 1: I came up with real fire this year.
45:51
Speaker 1: It's a song you have to listen to, every lyric and every verse, right?
46:00
Speaker 1: How many have known a friend Playing mass down to the end who will never again?
46:27
Speaker 1: And though we play now and then, thoughts will stray To that day, one who has long passed away.
46:40
Speaker 1: So for this girl, while you're jumping up, take a break, try and take in this song I made To remember, for old times sake, jack Graffit.
47:00
Speaker 1: I'll always remember Jumping when them big band pass, laying mass, sugary peppery.
47:12
Speaker 1: Jack was never, ever one for class.
47:14
Speaker 1: Jack Graffit, wherever you are, come back, just for you.
47:47
Speaker 1: I came out with real fire this year.
47:53
Speaker 1: Listen keenly right, listen keenly Memories.
47:56
Speaker 1: That fills the mind of those who are left behind.
48:01
Speaker 1: To some of us, it's a kin or a friend or a great love that was shared to the end.
48:14
Speaker 1: So it is our duty and meaning to everyone See that their memories live on, even though they are dead and gone All but more.
48:34
Speaker 1: I'll always remember Jumping when a steel band passed Playing Big Mass.
48:43
Speaker 1: Remember jumping when a steel band passed Playing big mass.
48:46
Speaker 1: Sugary peppery, I was never, ever, one for class.
48:50
Speaker 1: Dear Albert, wherever you are compared, just for you, I came out with real fire this year.
49:02
Speaker 2: So I wish condolences to her family, to everybody.
49:05
Speaker 2: All her loved ones and Estrella make an indelible mark on this space, in podcasting as well as in her content creation on social media and so on, just being who she is, being in her faith, being in her fitness and life's short.
49:20
Speaker 2: You just never's short.
49:21
Speaker 2: You just never know.
49:21
Speaker 2: You just never know.
49:22
Speaker 2: They say life is short and sometimes brutish.
49:26
Speaker 2: We must remember that and live our lives to the fullest.
49:30
Speaker 2: Live our lives to the fullest.
49:31
Speaker 2: That is all I have to say about that.
49:33
Speaker 2: Uh, we're going back to these gunmen and storming the hospital.
49:37
Speaker 2: So as bad as the news would have gotten over the over over the weekend and funny, that gonzalez is the one that we spoke about the most in terms of that christmas list video was suddenly the most glaring to me and I want to tell you that while we're recording here, seeing the express publishing that he was released on a hundred thousand bills and he I mean he headed to sleep with christian will.
49:58
Speaker 2: He had it there.
50:02
Speaker 2: But this story, warren, if you don't know this story, it was the usual in Trinidad.
50:07
Speaker 2: You're deemed a hotspot pretty much anywhere in the country.
50:10
Speaker 2: People go on to gun down somebody.
50:12
Speaker 2: So let me read this from Chester Sombrano, coincidentally from the Guardian.
50:17
Speaker 2: After opening fire on a group of men in gonzalez last night, gunmen rushed into the port of spain general hospital, where one of the victims was being taken for treatment, and continued shooting to ensure that he did not survive.
50:35
Speaker 2: Let me read that again right after opening fire on a group of men in gonzalez last, gunmen rushed to the Port of Spain General Hospital, where one of the victims was being taken for treatment, and continued shooting to ensure that he didn't survive.
50:48
Speaker 2: The brazen attack resulted in eight people being shot, four of whom died.
50:52
Speaker 2: The incident began just before 8 pm on Sunday.
50:55
Speaker 2: 8 pm on Sunday is drive by the Savannah, the little food court timeline on the Avenue.
51:01
Speaker 2: Carry your family, eat a little ice cream see what kind of?
51:04
Speaker 2: By the Savannah food court.
51:05
Speaker 2: There's all kind of sushi and doubles and all kind of nice things selling on them.
51:08
Speaker 2: That is the time we're talking about, right.
51:10
Speaker 2: 8 pm on a Sunday, winding down on a long weekend to start back school and work tomorrow and stuff Back to the drudgery of Monday mornings.
51:18
Speaker 2: Back to the drudgery of Monday mornings, 8 pm.
51:20
Speaker 2: This is what we talk about, right, but it's not a special time.
51:22
Speaker 2: Here again, they confronted the group of men and several shots fired.
51:26
Speaker 2: Three men, according to police reports, died at the scene.
51:29
Speaker 2: Two of them have been identified as Jonathan Arjun and Jaden Reyes.
51:32
Speaker 2: Police say a fourth victim, kevin King, was taken to hospital by relatives.
51:37
Speaker 2: However, as they attempted to take him into the accident and emergency department, the gunman who had followed them opened fire on king again.
51:45
Speaker 2: He also submit uh, succumbed to his injuries.
51:48
Speaker 2: Senior superintendent of the homicide bureau investigations, rishi singh, told the media early monday morning that a financial reward will be offered for information relating to the deadly shooting.
51:57
Speaker 2: Again, it's been a while since I see a crime story.
52:02
Speaker 2: I try to stay away from it all, you know.
52:04
Speaker 2: I mean it's bothered me too much to come here and talk about.
52:07
Speaker 2: I can't afford for this to pull down the rest of my week.
52:11
Speaker 2: But what was bothering me about this, more than the fact that it happened, is sometimes the responses to these things by the, by the, by the, by the powers that be, if it's not a little more prayers and get anything right and all them thing.
52:26
Speaker 2: And you know I mean to your life, to god, which is all good, or the minister.
52:31
Speaker 2: Hell turns the else in who, I suppose, had to be on spot and was asked to respond because it happened at the hospital and dies under his um, under his remit.
52:41
Speaker 2: Right and uh it was.
52:45
Speaker 2: It was interesting the wording that terence d elsing used.
52:48
Speaker 2: Right, terence d elsing was explaining to the media what happened and the way he worded it was uh, three people were shot in gonzalez, two of them died, unfortunately, and then they came to the hospital and they killed the last person.
53:00
Speaker 2: I find the use and the placement of the word unfortunate itself was unfortunate to me.
53:07
Speaker 2: Right, because we, we as lay people looking at this right, you always wonder about these situations where people running into areas specifically looking for for people to shoot, especially coming off our christmas show, we and what we would have known already I must be the naive one didn't know this before that the, the killings in this country very, very specific.
53:31
Speaker 2: They know who they went for to kill and my assumption and it's not a good one and it ain't gonna hold up in court and let me know, sedition all the place, not allegedly, it is my allegation, alleged, whatever I need to say to avoid sedition laws, that it is highly unlikely that people will be coming and look for you to kill you in our in eight o'clock on a sunday night if you're not involved in anything now.
53:54
Speaker 2: The minister had to be a little more guarded and measured in what he say than me, right?
53:58
Speaker 2: Because he don't know that the people who were killed were not innocent.
54:01
Speaker 2: But I feel like, given the climate in trinidad and tobago now using that word, unfortunately it misplaced if you, if you're trying to tell the media what happened, just say, hey, this will happen, because I think the unfortunate part of this situation is that law-abiding people who I would have seen in gonzalez even on christmas video, and people who I know in gonzalez and you know, belmont is not a strange place to me how to be dealing with gunshots, uh, eight o'clock in the night.
54:33
Speaker 2: I'll give you an example.
54:35
Speaker 2: I talked to my wife a little while ago.
54:36
Speaker 2: She teaching in her school in belmont and telling me today, while I recording this, or earlier today, that shot fire in in belmont and she and her students had a hit the deck.
54:47
Speaker 2: Now I'll tell you something right, people, people, I meet a young thing and married.
54:51
Speaker 2: You know, I mean I, I said man, I said man, married I.
54:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be a young wife, but these days when she go down, it had to come back up and take some time to get it don't happen as good as it used to happen back in the day.
55:02
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
55:02
Speaker 2: So I know what she went through.
55:04
Speaker 2: She had to hit the deck and come back up.
55:05
Speaker 2: That ain't going to be easy.
55:06
Speaker 2: But think about it.
55:08
Speaker 2: If we live in a society where primary school children know what is gunshot, know what to do to hit the deck and all them kind of, and we've given them the tools to be able to deal with hostile situations, it's because it's been the norm for them.
55:21
Speaker 2: It's been the norm in the communities they come from.
55:23
Speaker 2: And the conversation she's telling me that comes around the incidents like those is that nah miss, that sound like warning shots.
55:33
Speaker 2: Nah miss that sound like nah boy going home.
55:35
Speaker 2: This real life conversation I'm tell you about that happening in the very belmont, the very community, that that, if you, if you ask me my opinion right, which nobody's ever asked me that people like christmas list and all the other people who come in here exploiting for, for their own personal financial gains and we had to deal with this every day when he gone, when he gone away when he skipped bail and gone, which part he had to go.
56:02
Speaker 2: There's something we didn't lose every day last there's a school, and she's teaching in our primary school.
56:07
Speaker 2: At this training, let me as an under this is their reality, not just any school they go into on a daily basis, but the community that they live in.
56:14
Speaker 2: This is where they're growing up.
56:16
Speaker 2: What, what hope they're growing up with, if they, if, if, on your way to school you see a man with long guns walking and patrolling and say, all right, boy, study your work.
56:25
Speaker 2: You know, boy, study your work.
56:26
Speaker 2: Dude, what kind of society we have.
56:29
Speaker 2: So when, when turns the else in?
56:31
Speaker 2: As a minister, uh, minister, health, nonetheless, use the word in unfortunate to describe the, the, the, the people who died on the scene, but left out any descriptive word to say the nature of the fact that I had to live in an area where people just busting, shot and that is normalized.
56:52
Speaker 2: That's just why it is shot and hooting and then it's balling, or we see many of these things before or not.
56:58
Speaker 2: Not not using the word unfortunate to describe that a doctor could be going to work, a first responder, ambulance driver, the family of this man, who carrying him in.
57:07
Speaker 2: Man who's selling nuts in the hospital compound.
57:10
Speaker 2: People just driving past the hospital to go down the road because they leave the savannah food court and they're heading back down the road to get a taxi.
57:16
Speaker 2: They're just walking down charlotte street.
57:19
Speaker 2: That's not unfortunate that this is the reality that we are to live in as the people who govern in the country, people responsible for legislation, right, people who people who put put legislation in place that we could arrest and and and and take hoodlums like christmas off the street.
57:35
Speaker 2: Right.
57:35
Speaker 2: The.
57:37
Speaker 2: The placement of words I find to be unfortunate that the focus of a health minister then had to be saying hey, we can't live in a society where people coming in the hospital a man who in the hospital had a heart problem hearing gunshot downstairs, that I wonder how we're treating with these things.
57:57
Speaker 2: And that's what I mean.
57:58
Speaker 2: The placement of the word unfortunate and the lightness of the.
58:02
Speaker 2: This is not.
58:02
Speaker 2: This is not.
58:03
Speaker 2: We're not talking about no fortune here.
58:05
Speaker 2: The situation dire.
58:07
Speaker 2: It have nothing to do with fortune whatsoever.
58:10
Speaker 2: We're in a terrible situation but there are some people who, no matter what, turns the else and say it has.
58:16
Speaker 2: Some people is never to be left undone.
58:19
Speaker 2: There must top everything, hines laments gang killings, national Security Minister Fitzgerald Hines, who visited the crime scenes last night, expressed frustration over the problem of gangs in Trinidad and Tobago Another word that I find.
58:31
Speaker 2: What are you talking about?
58:33
Speaker 2: Frustration is what you're talking about.
58:36
Speaker 2: He went on to say.
58:37
Speaker 2: Minister Hines said he was disturbed.
58:40
Speaker 2: Wait, let me tell you something.
58:41
Speaker 2: If the people in charge, this situation is one of the worst possible situations I could I could think about, like, if I had to come up with scenarios again.
58:52
Speaker 2: I want to go back to netflix and if I had to write a script for netflix, a bad, bad script, I'm gonna give my episode on netflix in narcos to write in netflix.
58:59
Speaker 2: Right, I would write an episode where they intercept the gang, they shoot out on thing and then one of the main men get away and the family pull him and they carry him down in the hospital and the boys and them run past and we spray up the whole hospital and we finish.
59:12
Speaker 2: That's what I would have, right, if I had a script to write in it.
59:15
Speaker 2: It don't get no worse than this.
59:16
Speaker 2: The, the again a man working at double in the hospital because the hospital done underserved, you know, I mean they don't have enough people.
59:25
Speaker 2: They don't have enough professionals.
59:26
Speaker 2: They're talking about doctor, nurse, first responders, all them them under pressure and what you're dealing with when you go out.
59:32
Speaker 2: It's a character to meet people as accidents and emergencies quick movement, man getting oxygen, who getting thing stopping wound, and man coming to walk up to people and shoot them and kill them.
59:41
Speaker 2: And mr heinz said he was disturbed by this.
59:44
Speaker 2: I wonder if I alone feel like this.
59:47
Speaker 2: I wonder if I alone here.
59:48
Speaker 2: If, is this like this?
59:52
Speaker 2: You are merely disturbed by this?
59:55
Speaker 2: It's very disturbing to me.
59:57
Speaker 2: But let me go on.
59:57
Speaker 2: Mr heinz said he was disturbed by this shooting incident and quoted statistics that showed that 65 of the murders of the country are gang related.
1:00:05
Speaker 2: He said this was a reality, even with the presence of anti-gang legislation.
1:00:10
Speaker 2: Minister heinz called on members of the communities where these gangs are prevalent to speak up and provide information to the police.
1:00:17
Speaker 2: I want want to salute General Heinz.
1:00:19
Speaker 2: He's a special guy.
1:00:20
Speaker 2: He's hard to beat, a special, special guy.
1:00:23
Speaker 2: But sorry, I don't like to talk about crime.
1:00:28
Speaker 2: It's bring me down and my goal is never to bring nobody down here.
1:00:31
Speaker 2: I just worry when I see responses like these.
1:00:38
Speaker 2: I find responses like these it tells me something about the way we treat in with the crime situation, because the people who are responsible for governance, the people who in charge of these situations and these institutions.
1:00:52
Speaker 2: It just unfortunate and it is stupid.
1:00:54
Speaker 2: So this is why we not seen a drastic reaction or drastic uh, drastic measures to deal with these kinds of things.
1:01:04
Speaker 2: And this is why we depend on foreigners to come in here and they use their cameras and thing and then we could get, we could get evidence.
1:01:12
Speaker 2: It shows you the urgency to deal with this.
1:01:14
Speaker 2: Not there, because I mean I just disturbed.
1:01:16
Speaker 2: You know they have a neighbor here and me a little neighbor, as one of the best neighbors I have is one of the best neighborhoods I ever live in, but I'm a neighbor who dog this back in the night, you know.
1:01:28
Speaker 2: I mean, every now and again he's like, yeah, you know I be real disturbed by that.
1:01:32
Speaker 2: Let's be very disturbing.
1:01:33
Speaker 2: I hope you get my point right now.
1:01:37
Speaker 2: I I want to.
1:01:39
Speaker 2: I want to stick on this thing with youtubers for a while.
1:01:43
Speaker 2: The express also covered article.
1:01:45
Speaker 2: I salute the express and they're not saying who wrote the article, but they broadened the discussion a little bit from christmas, which are appreciated, and the headline said tnt's deadliest hoods are on show.
1:01:56
Speaker 2: Youtubers make it big with millions of clicks.
1:01:59
Speaker 2: Uh, canadian christopher christmas.
1:02:01
Speaker 2: This is not the only popular youtuber who has ventured into trendedidad's ghetto-looking communities, putting their camera to the people, unmasking gang members who willingly spill their inner workings of the organization.
1:02:11
Speaker 2: Like 6 and 7, and more Over the past months, communities such as Laventil have been a proliferation of visiting social media content creators, lending an audience of millions to the people who reside in these places.
1:02:26
Speaker 2: Be careful, they could shoot us at any moment.
1:02:29
Speaker 2: Inside Trinidad's most dangerous hood, deep into the Caribbean's deadliest hood, are only three of the titles published on international video sharing platforms, racking up millions of views and overtly showing guns or gun-related content and descriptions of what may be considered gang-related activity.
1:02:45
Speaker 2: The videos are presented to presented graphic side of the country that even its citizens are likely unaware of or would rather avoid at all cost.
1:02:52
Speaker 2: That pretty much describes me.
1:02:53
Speaker 2: The video posters are often caucasian men who seem to reveal the hospitality and revel in the hospitality and kindness, despite an overwhelmingly negative perception of crime riddled communities.
1:03:05
Speaker 2: Uh, though, a few foreign women of color have also participated in this content trend.
1:03:11
Speaker 2: I want to tell you that one of the main things you will hear every single one of these content creators come and say these white boys especially is that, hey, the people tell me how bad he is.
1:03:21
Speaker 2: You know it's a safe place.
1:03:22
Speaker 2: You know, I mean, I feel safe.
1:03:22
Speaker 2: I, this is a beautiful community, people are beautiful, people very welcoming.
1:03:23
Speaker 2: You'll see them go in people house and eat and them kind of things, and it's like it's a safe place, I feel safe.
1:03:25
Speaker 2: It's a beautiful community, the people are beautiful, the people are very welcoming.
1:03:26
Speaker 2: You'll see them go in people's houses and eat and those kind of things and it's like, hmm, it's like a colonizer's rant.
1:03:34
Speaker 2: It just feels like that doesn't feel much different than all our oil being owned by British Petroleum and British Gas and BHP and all foreign being owned by British Petroleum and British Gas and BHP and all foreign.
1:03:45
Speaker 2: You know, every resource that we have, good or bad or indifferent, seems to not be owned by us but be owned by people who own us, and the subjects of these videos are almost always the country's disenfranchised young men, those outwardly seeking community through their controversial affiliations and who claim to be trying to make a better life for themselves on behalf of their loved ones.
1:04:09
Speaker 2: As we hear a lot.
1:04:10
Speaker 2: You also hear the government and doing nothing for we and all these types of things.
1:04:13
Speaker 2: The video entitled Deep into the Caribbean Deadliest, by Greek YouTuber Timmy Carter has since amassed 2.1 million views in total In the US.
1:04:24
Speaker 2: The video displays a number of ads throughout its duration and offers the option of thanking Carter with a US $2 donation or feature that, according to YouTube, is only available to channels accepted in its YouTube Partnership program, which you have to get past a certain amount of views to be able to get to that YouTube Partnership or even to monetize right.
1:04:42
Speaker 2: To monetize you need, I think, 10,000 subscribers.
1:04:45
Speaker 2: Hint, hint, you know what I mean.
1:04:47
Speaker 2: It only helps more.
1:04:48
Speaker 2: But to monetize you need 10,000 subscribers.
1:04:50
Speaker 2: And to get to the partnership program, you got to be doing well, you got to be doing numbers right.
1:04:58
Speaker 2: It's thumbnail.
1:04:59
Speaker 2: Well, the thumbnail is also an important part, and I just want to make sure people are important, people's algorithms so important part, and I just want to make sure people are important.
1:05:07
Speaker 2: People's algorithms are.
1:05:07
Speaker 2: But the algorithm is just a if this, then that mathematical formula that decides on what comes up when you open youtube.
1:05:13
Speaker 2: So everybody who open youtube.
1:05:14
Speaker 2: There's a equation that tries to determine what types of videos you will like.
1:05:18
Speaker 2: That's why, no matter what you click, they will have suggested videos below.
1:05:22
Speaker 2: The game as a youtuber, or the strategy, is to try to figure out for your target audience, the people who you want to listen to you.
1:05:29
Speaker 2: How do you get into their suggested videos so that even if they went and look up some song they wanted to play?
1:05:37
Speaker 2: Next I could show you uh warzone in trinidad and tobago as a suggestion, because I know you also like those types of videos.
1:05:45
Speaker 2: But to do that well, you had to name the video well, you had to have a good description and you had to have a good thumbnail, because the thumbnail now is what you will see and when you see that in the corner your eye you say that look like something I would want to click.
1:05:55
Speaker 2: So they say the thumbnail here is artistic depiction of young men with obscured faces, holding guns pointing at each other, while a monkey sits on a sign which reads war zone.
1:06:06
Speaker 2: So they use that as a thumbnail.
1:06:07
Speaker 2: I guess that would be attractive to the people who they want to watch a video.
1:06:11
Speaker 2: It features a massless young man who refers to himself as el chapo and proudly explains that there was a musical influence in the community he was a part of, while expressing deep distrust in the trinidad tobago police service.
1:06:23
Speaker 2: We are trying to live our lives, trying to make money and see what our families.
1:06:27
Speaker 2: He told Carter while showing the, while showing a firearm blade in the video.
1:06:31
Speaker 2: We have a little opposition.
1:06:33
Speaker 2: We have a little opposition with the other people in other communities In Trinidad.
1:06:37
Speaker 2: In Trinidad, the police don't deal with the problem.
1:06:38
Speaker 2: They only deal with what they think they can deal with and when they can't solve the problem, they come and kill you.
1:06:44
Speaker 2: When you have nothing and you aren't doing anything, they are fed up with you.
1:06:48
Speaker 2: They come and kill you.
1:06:49
Speaker 2: They kill you for nothing and they write down in their report and all that is fine and it's cool and we have no set of opportunities.
1:06:55
Speaker 2: In Christmas videos you hear all that no opportunities.
1:06:58
Speaker 2: The government is doing nothing for we, them boys.
1:07:06
Speaker 2: A solid answer on what they want out of life, what they're fighting for the day rebels without a cause.
1:07:08
Speaker 2: You know him like.
1:07:09
Speaker 2: Where's the cause?
1:07:10
Speaker 2: What they're fighting for exactly?
1:07:11
Speaker 2: Fighting for freedom from some oppressive regime?
1:07:14
Speaker 2: Nobody don't know.
1:07:15
Speaker 2: It seems as though they're just fighting for some community leader who no longer here and territory until for you.
1:07:22
Speaker 2: Take a guess as to what the one in territory until for it he said.
1:07:25
Speaker 2: Right, he said my dream in life I want to be real with you is to be a billionaire and I want to help people who cannot help themselves.
1:07:32
Speaker 2: I see my family go through a whole set of things when I was young and I want to make sure that they're good now.
1:07:37
Speaker 2: One uploaded by Israeli YouTuber, coco Boy, shows him moving through the Lavantel community and speaking to residents Standing near a bullet riddled wall.
1:07:47
Speaker 2: He speaks to a man who tells him shootings are a regular occurrence in the community.
1:07:50
Speaker 2: Even as I am standing here, there could be a shooting.
1:07:54
Speaker 2: He comments in the YouTube video, which appears to be removed from YouTube.
1:07:59
Speaker 2: So you get the trend right.
1:08:00
Speaker 2: There's a lot of that.
1:08:01
Speaker 2: It is a popular trend and people come here and they do it and they do well.
1:08:07
Speaker 2: So while I lamenting about the fetishizing of foreigners, the foreigners, they come in and fetishize us as well because they're gonna sleep comfortable, go back in their gucci robes and so on, and uh, how much of their proceeds that they would get from the videos they donate to communities like gonzalez I, I don't know.
1:08:25
Speaker 2: I don't know if it helps or if it's necessary.
1:08:27
Speaker 2: You have promises like those are made.
1:08:28
Speaker 2: How much they do for people while in the communities is questionable.
1:08:32
Speaker 2: So, while a lot of people defending christmas, they showed a video, some videos in somalia, where he was basically throwing out money at people in a very, very insulting way, and uh was arrested for that in somalia as well.
1:08:44
Speaker 2: Because they say, while while zakat is a part of what they participate in, in other words, giving tides or helping others, uh, the idea of throwing money at people is deeply insulting and he did.
1:08:55
Speaker 2: You know it doesn't say I don't want to talk, not nothing, money, but it's normal for you to go to the next society and not understand somebody culture.
1:09:03
Speaker 2: But if you're claiming to go deep into the society, as you were, you, you know you're going to places that trinidadians will go or somalians will go.
1:09:11
Speaker 2: In that case, I would think that you're spending a little more time to understand the culture and the people that you deal with.
1:09:15
Speaker 2: And while I was looking at this trend because it's definitely a trend and it's not just here, see it a lot in jamaica as well going into, you know, I mean, but one of the things that's also a trend here, right, is that the food people starting to come here more and more and more.
1:09:35
Speaker 2: The international food critics right, I've seen many a food critic come here and uh from anthony bourdain, who would have been the one who started the 1% talk.
1:09:47
Speaker 2: Salute him for that.
1:09:48
Speaker 2: There's a couple who came recently who they.
1:09:56
Speaker 2: He make a song about Rooty.
1:10:02
Speaker 2: It seems as though he's a little producer and thing to the guys, a husband and wife couple, and he, they.
1:10:09
Speaker 2: They come and make a song and they say what he love roti and he love roti.
1:10:13
Speaker 2: Every day you see them eating doubles.
1:10:14
Speaker 2: That is something that becoming more and more common.
1:10:17
Speaker 2: What's my boy name, andrew zeman, who came here and eat bacon shark and says single best sandwich he ever had.
1:10:22
Speaker 2: I believe mark weiss would have come.
1:10:25
Speaker 2: Uh wins, I believe, was his name.
1:10:26
Speaker 2: Who came with uh was it was it?
1:10:29
Speaker 2: Was it zach the food?
1:10:31
Speaker 2: The food foodie with zach food details, with zach would have had mark wins and carry him around.
1:10:36
Speaker 2: You know, I remember.
1:10:37
Speaker 2: I wonder if you remember this way it had a man when an international vlogger was here as well and they went bar tire by a soup man and the soup man was tasting the soup with his fingers so he makes sure to tell you look different finger, right?
1:10:56
Speaker 2: Nothing about it ain't good.
1:10:59
Speaker 2: I think that was Andrew Zeman as well.
1:11:01
Speaker 2: Andrew was a back Zeman who does that, and his ling and lamb was the ones I was trying to remember who came and they say it's a roti patty, a roti patty.
1:11:12
Speaker 2: And you know the, the, the popularity of trinidad in terms of food and delicacies.
1:11:17
Speaker 2: You also see people, uh, several tiktokers trying roti.
1:11:22
Speaker 2: I was trying trying doubles for the first time, trying maruga pepper sauce or maruga scorpion pepper is this?
1:11:28
Speaker 2: Or maruga hot pepper, whichever one, or bertie's pepper sauce.
1:11:31
Speaker 2: You see a lot of it.
1:11:32
Speaker 2: So in as much as we, we, we are fertile grung for videos like warzone and bullet holes in the wall.
1:11:41
Speaker 2: It seems as though we are also fertile grung for the for the, for the good things that we're doing, all the doubles and things starting to get catch up in mailing and seeing people missing from double scouting, double card getting shoot up on a regular now, but we're getting at right is when the food, when the food bloggers come, uh, the, the words journalist and so on thrown around the place all the time, or bloggers or vloggers or youtubers or tiktokers or whatever.
1:12:06
Speaker 2: I've seen the ministry of tourism making a great effort almost to if not to bring them here, uh, to interact with them while they're here, and I think that's something that we should applaud, right, because it makes sense that if the food is part of what we want to promote, as part of why people come to trinidad and what we have to offer the world so salute to randall mitchell's, minister of tourism.
1:12:35
Speaker 2: There seemed to be a a deliberate attempt by the ministry of tourism, if not to bring more bloggers here to come and talk about food, to engage them while they're here.
1:12:44
Speaker 2: So you see them coming and then you see these same uh youtubers sometimes tagging the ministry of uh ministry of tourism and trendado ministry of culture in some cases, in some of their posts, which means that they might be paid posts.
1:13:01
Speaker 2: Or you know the whole influencer thing.
1:13:03
Speaker 2: You know you use influencers to try to help sell your products or your services or your wares or get people to know about your country, and I think the ministry I think it's a great initiative like we need to do more and more of that, because traditional marketing, like the newspaper and the tv ads and the billboards and the signs in the airport and the magazines and the.
1:13:24
Speaker 2: You know when you're coming in caribbean beat magazine and those nothing wrong with them things, everything's good, right.
1:13:30
Speaker 2: But in today's world, digital marketing is where the action is and a big part of digital marketing is getting could be getting a message out through influencers like these, who already have a strong audience that want to listen to them.
1:13:43
Speaker 2: They're good at content creation and engagement, so they know how to get people excited about the things they post.
1:13:48
Speaker 2: They make it nice and you know it's good.
1:13:50
Speaker 2: Looking like ling and lamb, for instance, have 1.2 million followers.
1:13:53
Speaker 2: If we use people like them and when I say use, I mean engage them right, pay them, get them as to get them to be part of what or how we sell our culture it makes sense and there's so much different aspects of the culture.
1:14:07
Speaker 2: I come in here and talk about calypso every week one of the important questions they asked me in class, like because the disconnect between calypso and youth and, uh, somebody was pointing out that a big part of the problem in calypso now is that idea that you expect youths to come calypso tent and sit down there for three, four hours and a night.
1:14:26
Speaker 2: That's just not the way entertainment works in today's world.
1:14:29
Speaker 2: Youths used to be entertained by the minute.
1:14:32
Speaker 2: They don't have time to go and sit down.
1:14:33
Speaker 2: So if you, if you, really want this to go towards youth, I think and they have some great calypsonians now who sing in songs that I think anybody of any age could be interested in but how we package it and how we market it, you can't have the same people who sing in calypso marketing calypsos Marketing is not your expertise.
1:14:52
Speaker 2: Get people like these who could engage, influencers like this who already have a voice, who already have a following and a level of engagement.
1:15:00
Speaker 2: So, in other words, when these people say roti good and they come and they sing roti party, that more likely to make people try a roti than any billboard you could put up anywhere that shows anything.
1:15:14
Speaker 2: And I want you to observe something when you check out these videos that they do right, you'll notice that when they go on to try bacon shark or wherever they go to try the different things that they wanted to try in their um, in their travels across the country, beyond just promoting the bacon shark, what you will notice is in the background you will see a solo or or or a just juice or a bear fruit and you know there's into or even that digital or whoever it might be, because it camera will pick up all the different things.
1:15:43
Speaker 2: So there's a we call externalities right.
1:15:47
Speaker 2: You get additional benefit, more than just what you're paying for, and we could engage those things.
1:15:52
Speaker 2: You could engage people like these around the Calypso or the Carnival and make sure that we continue to build on what we have and make sure that your reputation is right, because we cannot sit and idly watch people wanting to come to Trinidad and Tobago, to come and show what is the worst that we have to offer and put up things that sensationalize and crime here, or sedition and crime here and present.
1:16:17
Speaker 2: You must control the narrative about your brand.
1:16:19
Speaker 2: If Trinidad and Tobago is a brand, we have to be working all the time to see what are the things we should be presenting to the world.
1:16:27
Speaker 2: How should we be looking in the global space?
1:16:30
Speaker 2: What?
1:16:31
Speaker 2: What do we?
1:16:31
Speaker 2: What do we want to be seen as?
1:16:35
Speaker 2: And if we, if we figure out which is called brand positioning right.
1:16:38
Speaker 2: Coincidentally, brand position is why I want to be seen as, compared to what I want people to, what they think of me versus what they think of my competitors.
1:16:44
Speaker 2: Once we identify that, we must be monitoring every single story that posted out of shinda and tebego.
1:16:51
Speaker 2: So for every christmas it must have 10 ling and lamb coming here.
1:16:55
Speaker 2: 10 mark wins, 10 anthony boudin what bless his soul, or whoever it might be to shape the narrative that you really want to shape.
1:17:04
Speaker 2: There are so many influencers, not not just around food, but to have influencers who go around to find out the culture of the world.
1:17:09
Speaker 2: There are influencers who go around finding the fauna and flora in the world.
1:17:13
Speaker 2: We could engage these people to paint a narrative about Trinidad that silences the voices of people like Christmas, who want to come, and papi showy.
1:17:22
Speaker 2: I want to add to that there's a finite amount of crime seeking um vloggers, right, just like they have a finite amount of food people who's probably willing to talk about food.
1:17:34
Speaker 2: Let me say it have a hundred people in the world who like to come and go, crime hotspots and this, and that you could also engage them and them fellas on dollars, them fellas on views and they're on dollars.
1:17:44
Speaker 2: I can tell you no christmas list.
1:17:46
Speaker 2: He views and dollars gonna go up because of this situation.
1:17:49
Speaker 2: He got arrested in trinidad.
1:17:51
Speaker 2: He could talk about that and he gonna be fine, you know, I mean he gonna be good.
1:17:55
Speaker 2: He, he, he, he gonna get a boost that he was probably always looking for.
1:18:00
Speaker 2: So, if, his if and I would hazard, I guess, that most of them goal is to increase their level of engagement, increase their level of earnings and that kind of thing, build their channel and thing.
1:18:13
Speaker 2: We could engage them up front.
1:18:14
Speaker 2: We don't have to sit here and let this happen to us.
1:18:17
Speaker 2: It's going to happen either way.
1:18:18
Speaker 2: Whether it's through the ministry of tourism, the ministry of national security, we could reach out to vloggers and say well, here, what we understand, we see you covering crime, you think, in palestine.
1:18:30
Speaker 2: We want you to come here and cover the situation in trinidad and to be.
1:18:34
Speaker 2: We want to, you know, we want to invite you.
1:18:36
Speaker 2: You know, I mean no pressure.
1:18:37
Speaker 2: We let you know that, listen, we're not gonna arrest you, we're not gonna do anything.
1:18:41
Speaker 2: We want, we want the world to know some of these struggles that we have in in trinidad and tobago.
1:18:46
Speaker 2: However, you package it and you sell it, you know, and you and you bring these people in and they do that, and that could be a well your way into again if, if it is, information is a problem or whatsoever it is, or sensitivity or awareness to the situation or global awareness to the fact that we haven't I was gonna say we have in a national breakdown or we haven't had the breakdown in society or failure of state, but apparently we just disturbed and we unfortunate.
1:19:13
Speaker 2: If you want to bring people here to listen, we disturbed and unfortunate and we want to show the world what it is and use this as your marketing to get international help from people like the un or the us government or whoever we need to get, who have crime situations like we have that are similar to what we do in Trinidad and Tobago.
1:19:29
Speaker 2: It's like you wonder sometimes and and this is my gripe right, sorry for the whole long episode of gripes, but there's my gripe with the people who in charge and the people who are the head of these ministry minister and them kind of thing it's like we're so comfortable, we're so complacent, we're just disturbed and it's just unfortunate and nobody going further to think out of the box and say, all right, hey, here what?
1:19:53
Speaker 2: This is a major issue, this is working against us, we're gonna arrest this man.
1:19:59
Speaker 2: I don't know how much information we get after he got arrested.
1:20:02
Speaker 2: I would think that if you get access to all his tapes and think that's something in there, that would have caused some major arrests, of course, lahakitora, belmont, all the areas he was I I ain't hear about that yet and now he released.
1:20:12
Speaker 2: So I'm sure what they get.
1:20:14
Speaker 2: But if you realize this happened to us and there's not much we could do about it, why not use?
1:20:20
Speaker 2: Why not use?
1:20:22
Speaker 2: Use it to your advantage.
1:20:26
Speaker 2: Control the narrative, as the Yankees say.
1:20:28
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, rather than keep ourselves in a situation where things continue to happen to us.
1:20:35
Speaker 2: Related but somewhat unrelated right.
1:20:42
Speaker 2: One of the students in the class on Saturday as well was asking me about the idea of the, the, the that disconnects with calypso.
1:20:53
Speaker 2: It's a little shari you know from, from star broadcasting, is that is a question that strike me, and she was saying that, um, with, with youths not understanding calypso, like the, the, the topics they're singing about, and where's that voice of the people, the mouthpiece you know we go about?
1:21:13
Speaker 2: Uh, by calypsos, or stories are told.
1:21:16
Speaker 2: So that's a kaiso kuhn, right, kaiso kuhn is another podcast you should listen to.
1:21:19
Speaker 2: Kaiso kuhn has come up with a podcast.
1:21:21
Speaker 2: I believe he's released it every tuesday, like myself and um, no, monday nights.
1:21:26
Speaker 2: He's released it and he's doing live on on instagram too, so you should follow him and check it out, because that fella know a lot of kaizo too.
1:21:32
Speaker 2: Nice, nice kaizo, and he's, he, he's, he.
1:21:35
Speaker 2: Line up his songs properly.
1:21:36
Speaker 2: He's much more organized than I am, you know.
1:21:38
Speaker 2: I mean salute to kaizo, but when you, when you, when you look at what kaizo used to do to tell our stories, we, we live in a world nowhere it is.
1:21:53
Speaker 2: It takes too long when I start.
1:21:55
Speaker 2: Okay, so, so, so, this thing happened.
1:21:57
Speaker 2: Gonzalez and a man get shot in the hospital.
1:21:59
Speaker 2: The great writers we have the kurt allen, the karen ashes, the, the bruce hammonds, the, the you know too much, too many to come to.
1:22:07
Speaker 2: The marshall montano's calypso mona could he could write a song about that, make a dublin tundra or something like crook or gypsy or them first, and then could write a song, a stinging social commentary, and think the problem now is this take too long.
1:22:22
Speaker 2: The bloggers and the vloggers and these influencers have a camera on them at all times where they could react to things instantaneously.
1:22:28
Speaker 2: I see media and trend that changed drastically.
1:22:30
Speaker 2: Where I live in a world where I used to have to wait till tomorrow morning to find out what happened today, even those very same reporters like the chesters and brannos of this world.
1:22:39
Speaker 2: They had to put out stories now.
1:22:41
Speaker 2: They can't wait till tomorrow.
1:22:43
Speaker 2: Papers or if a big story come out, you just have a thing called evening news.
1:22:47
Speaker 2: They might do a special run of the papers and print out evening news for people.
1:22:51
Speaker 2: Those days done the reaction time and the time people find out information is at the time the thing happened and these things go viral fast and it's beyond anybody.
1:23:02
Speaker 2: So by the time a Calypsonian writes about something, puts it in a song carries by pelham, pelham arranged it the finer thing and they win the calypso monarch, like what they used to do long time, because a lot of these situations men was singing about and winning calypso monarch long time was real situations that happen.
1:23:19
Speaker 2: But now, if you wait two days sometimes I talking about something and it happened a lot you know what I started to do when something big happened just after I record before I come and talk about that thing.
1:23:33
Speaker 2: I just try my best to listen to everything everybody say and read every article every day, just so that by the time I come I come in with something new or refreshing or a different angle or something funny, and I think it's a new challenge that calypsonians themselves or people in the art form of the culture have to accept.
1:23:51
Speaker 2: Where I got, I opened last week with rio right.
1:23:56
Speaker 2: They had a big competition for the more travel calypsonian uh-huh, and people were surprised to see the finalist was sparrow and me.
1:24:04
Speaker 2: He said sparrow went on, he went back to spain, he went to ethiopia and he went back again.
1:24:08
Speaker 2: He went cinchiopia and he went back again.
1:24:09
Speaker 2: He went cincinnati and he went to ohio.
1:24:11
Speaker 2: But I was the favorite people shout out he's with san fernando palo seco clever, clever, you're creative.
1:24:20
Speaker 2: So, in other words, no matter how long a situation can happen, although you're one fictitious, but it's like that genre of calypso, the humorous calypso, the spoilers of the world, the real, the funny, the mystic prowlers.
1:24:34
Speaker 2: You know there's some people who was clever and creative in the way they could write.
1:24:37
Speaker 2: Even I was talking.
1:24:38
Speaker 2: I was talking this week to any class about all wrong, you know.
1:24:42
Speaker 2: I mean the way them fellas and them put together songs so crafty that it would not matter how much time pass.
1:24:50
Speaker 2: They put it together in a way that people will still be willing to listen to it or to hear what is the angle.
1:24:58
Speaker 2: In other words, I might hear something, but I kind of want to hear what Joe Budden coming with on this, to hear.
1:25:09
Speaker 2: I want to hear what joe budden coming with on this because I know he going and do it in a way that different to what everybody do, or have a unique perspective at least once.
1:25:14
Speaker 2: Once he come out and I feel like it's a challenge that that calypsonians ought to accept, and the humorous calypso is one where you could accept those kind of things, because if it doesn't matter how long ago something happened, if you funny enough on the topic, people will listen to you.
1:25:30
Speaker 2: Like, for instance, I saw Donald Rawlings recently open a special with the Alabama Brawl.
1:25:34
Speaker 2: That thing was so old but he's so clever and he comes different with it and it worked.
1:25:39
Speaker 2: Brian Simpson, one of my favorite comedians right now, have a way of coming at something different, something unique.
1:25:45
Speaker 2: Of course, dave Chappelle, you know the stories they come in with by the time they do a special, they work their material for a year, they talk more things that are a year old, but they have a cleverness and a different way of bringing it across.
1:25:56
Speaker 2: I want to play one of them songs right, because she had mentioned Olrongda when we were talking Again Keturah Soluta, she gave me some energy to get back behind these ideas, but she had mentioned Olrongda.
1:26:11
Speaker 2: Olrongda is a special Calypsoanian to me because of the angle he used to come with and this is one of my favorite Olrongda.
1:27:03
Speaker 5: You know it, thank you.
1:27:04
Speaker 5: You only watch me, can't call out Making the Lord, please forgive her.
1:27:08
Speaker 5: All her work done.
1:27:10
Speaker 5: And you know the moon and you only watch me, can't call out.
1:27:13
Speaker 5: And when I ask him why, she me started to cry, cry, cry, cry.
1:27:34
Speaker 1: Everybody used to admire that pastor.
1:27:38
Speaker 1: Oh yes, oh yes, so passionate, the charismatic way he preached on the altar.
1:27:47
Speaker 1: My love for his preaching.
1:27:50
Speaker 1: He can come and that's him.
1:27:52
Speaker 1: So I don't care what man, I really love me, jimmy Swagger.
1:27:56
Speaker 1: He never touch me.
1:27:57
Speaker 1: Can't allow, he only watch me.
1:27:59
Speaker 1: Can't allow.
1:28:00
Speaker 1: Make him do all this, forgive her All how I turn and tune and moon and moon, but touch me can't allow.
1:28:06
Speaker 1: And when I ask him why, jimmy started to cry, cry, cry, cry.
1:28:25
Speaker 2: Jimmy started to cry.
1:28:26
Speaker 2: Now a way to go and Google Jimmy Swaggart for me.
1:28:30
Speaker 2: Right, go and Google Jimmy Swaggart and you'll understand what I mean when I say the humorous calypso's timeless, but more things to talk about and who I should address next.
1:28:38
Speaker 2: Big back people.
1:28:39
Speaker 2: Big backs.
1:28:40
Speaker 2: As Seba Small from Daily Express says.
1:28:44
Speaker 2: Gastric balloon is here.
1:28:45
Speaker 2: Is it for you?
1:28:46
Speaker 2: We talk about those and pick for the big backs.
1:28:49
Speaker 2: Now we're covering the little.
1:28:50
Speaker 2: Gastric balloon is here.
1:28:50
Speaker 2: Is it for you?
1:28:50
Speaker 2: We talk about ozempic for the big backs.
1:28:51
Speaker 2: Now we're covering the little gastric bypass, so you could do gastric bypass surgery or gastric balloon right and turn that.
1:28:56
Speaker 2: So you probably came across a social media advertisement for the intra intra gastric balloon.
1:29:03
Speaker 2: If not, it is a weight loss option that is now available in tnt.
1:29:07
Speaker 2: If you're eating right and exercising and still not seeing weight loss, are you talking to me?
1:29:11
Speaker 2: Me eating right, me exercising and not seeing weight loss?
1:29:14
Speaker 2: If you're eating right, exercising and still not seeing weight loss, then you're the right candidate for the intragastric balloon.
1:29:21
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1:29:33
Speaker 2: Her magazine contacted bariatric laparoscopic.
1:29:39
Speaker 2: I can't read no more of this.
1:29:40
Speaker 2: Get your back on big, go and check.
1:29:43
Speaker 2: Dr Amrit Rambajan with the gastric balloon Attempted to do a little gastric balloon and now my belly doesn't look like I have a gastric balloon already.
1:29:53
Speaker 2: But you see the way my eyesight is set up right.
1:29:55
Speaker 2: If I had to do any surgery I had to go and fix my eyesight.
1:29:58
Speaker 2: I really can't see.
1:30:00
Speaker 2: I can't see very well.
1:30:01
Speaker 2: It's getting worse and worse.
1:30:03
Speaker 2: Talking about can't see and can't see the way Parry and them making a surge for the UNC into an election.
1:30:10
Speaker 2: I'm looking for predictions here because I'm following this story and at first I thought Rush and Parry wasn't saying much, but more and more it seems as though that what do you want to call it anti-Kamala slate is picking up some steam.
1:30:23
Speaker 2: I was coming home this evening and I passed by Signature Hall I think it is in Chagones and I see I believe it was the Patriots.
1:30:32
Speaker 2: I believe it's what Rushdown Parade team is and they had a rally there and they seem to be drumming up some support.
1:30:39
Speaker 2: This is from Dahlisa Gorillalan-Loop right.
1:30:42
Speaker 2: Unc International Elections 2024.
1:30:44
Speaker 2: Patriots reveal policy agenda.
1:30:47
Speaker 2: United Patriots, led by Mayor MP Rushton Parry, has pledged to modernize the UNC Constitution set fixed dates for internal elections and implement fixed terms for elected positions.
1:30:58
Speaker 2: As we talk in the legislature, is it possible to legislate something that says that if you are a political party, your constitution must be structured in a specific way?
1:31:08
Speaker 2: Is that useful or possible to do?
1:31:11
Speaker 2: Because I find we.
1:31:12
Speaker 2: We don't know.
1:31:13
Speaker 2: There are two big parties in trinidad and tobago, but we don't know what will come, what is to come or three we have bigger one in tobago right, or a few.
1:31:19
Speaker 2: But if we, if we put it in a way where the parties have to structure themselves, where they have fixed dates for internal elections that have to be done every four years, they could only have to help us with governance as a whole.
1:31:33
Speaker 2: You know, because some of the nonsense I have many parties is just flow all the way from there into governance.
1:31:38
Speaker 2: We don't have much choice in terms of who to vote for.
1:31:40
Speaker 2: But the promises are part of his policy agenda, which the team unveiled on Sunday ahead of the UNC's June 15th internal elections.
1:31:47
Speaker 2: Unveiled on Sunday ahead of the UNC's June 15th internal elections.
1:31:50
Speaker 2: The Patriots include sitting MPs Dr Rai Ragbir, anita Haynes-Allen from Tabakit or representing Tabakit.
1:31:56
Speaker 2: Unc Consular Jason Alley, saparia, west-pfizerbad.
1:31:59
Speaker 2: Henry Awong, vice Chairman of the Cuba-Tabakit-Talpao Regional Corporation, with the slate rounded out by several parties stalwarts, which mean insignificance, right, the left party led.
1:32:12
Speaker 2: Slate said it intends to transform the unc into a well-organized party capable of leading trinidad and tobago to a prosperous future.
1:32:19
Speaker 2: The patriot said it envisions a reformed united national congress and inspires youth involvement, fosters organizational excellence and regains confidence of the electorate.
1:32:29
Speaker 2: His late pledge to implement the unc's constitution and full, including activating the 11 units and organs of the party.
1:32:38
Speaker 2: While this is happening, michaela panday is mounting a political challenge, right, uh, michaela panday's rejuvenation of the patriotic front ahead of the general election constitution will do next year.
1:32:52
Speaker 2: So it's intriguing, to say the least.
1:32:54
Speaker 2: The well-known daughter of unc founder, bazdio pandey, who has been riding a wave of renewed popularity since mr pandey's passing she make a little video beating tassel.
1:33:02
Speaker 2: I think she get popular.
1:33:03
Speaker 2: It literally look good she could play tassel.
1:33:04
Speaker 2: Well, we like them kind of thing, right?
1:33:06
Speaker 2: She has announced her intention to fill a full slate of 41 candidates.
1:33:10
Speaker 2: Whether, whenever the election bell rings, I wonder sometimes about new political parties it's like new businesses, you know, sometimes it's a little bite of money decide on a niche that he could fulfill.
1:33:23
Speaker 2: Well, fulfill that niche and then you could start to grow from there.
1:33:27
Speaker 2: I wonder if it's a good strategy for political parties, because they all seem to want to go with this 41 candidate strategy.
1:33:32
Speaker 2: I say, like philip alexander, gary griffith, they all go for the big, well big election.
1:33:37
Speaker 2: Uh, what duke had said he was going to do the same thing, and uh, it doesn't really work.
1:33:42
Speaker 2: Well, I wonder if it would be better suited to put all the resources into two or three seats and use those seats to bargain your way into some semblance of power or to parlay your way into bigger representation on a national level as elections go along.
1:34:00
Speaker 2: You know, every five years we got about 25 different set of elections, so it might make sense to do it that way I I think.
1:34:07
Speaker 2: But she's going for 41 seats and there's rumblings right that if Paré win, michaela is willing to join up and I would campaign on that.
1:34:20
Speaker 2: You know, if I had to beat Kamala then I had to beat her.
1:34:22
Speaker 2: Kamala and Moulin Lall and the UNC stalwarts the real stalwarts, not the ones they did fail to mention there they will be hard to beat in an internal election.
1:34:29
Speaker 2: But I don't feel as if can I make election predictions.
1:34:34
Speaker 2: I don't feel like if kamala pesada is the leader unc going into general elections I'm not sure if she's shown anything with her recent track record over the last maybe 10 years in elections that she could win.
1:34:46
Speaker 2: And I think people genuinely fed up with the pnm, people want all the time they want to see somebody go.
1:34:51
Speaker 2: But I think people see like roly and kamala's two sides of the coin is like it's not worth it to change one to put the next.
1:34:59
Speaker 2: I just talk in general like what, what?
1:35:01
Speaker 2: I think the electorate would be feeling right, especially undecided voter, the undecided voter and leave any house to vote for kamala head or rowley?
1:35:09
Speaker 2: I would think I, and I certainly do.
1:35:11
Speaker 2: I can't take either of them and I don't see where either of them making any sense.
1:35:16
Speaker 2: I think it's disturbing and unfortunate.
1:35:18
Speaker 2: But if you have rushton parry, who I kind of see as the old god, still a little bit maybe, but maybe a little more inspiring.
1:35:28
Speaker 2: But certainly michaela pandey I think I think she have the the, you know, I still a little bit maybe, but maybe a little more inspiring.
1:35:29
Speaker 2: But certainly michaela pandey I think I think she have the the you know, I mean a little more young blood and and there's some, if she talking about reform and modernizing and stuff, it easier for me to believe her when she talk about those things, both from the party standpoint and the national standpoint.
1:35:47
Speaker 2: Easier for me to believe her than it is to believe Kamala and Rowley and Rushdown Parry and these people them hard to listen to Fitzgerald Hines, I'm kidding, I'm the only saying them a little hard to listen to and a little, to be frank, without seditioning myself, it's a little uninspiring, to be honest.
1:36:04
Speaker 2: It would be nice to see some people who actually could inspire some hope and some promise and so on.
1:36:09
Speaker 2: You know, let's see how that goes.
1:36:11
Speaker 2: We'll continue to monitor that.
1:36:12
Speaker 2: We're about two weeks away from that election.
1:36:14
Speaker 2: I think that UNC election is something everybody should pay attention to because it will have a great impact on the national election, right?
1:36:23
Speaker 2: But talking about inspiration and hope and so on.
1:36:28
Speaker 2: Talking about inspiration and hope and so on, this is world cup cricket time, right, and it's clear that everybody who like world cup cricket trades on hope and inspiration, especially people who like west indies cricket, right.
1:36:44
Speaker 2: So to my father, so to people like the canines and so on, and also people who live and die by western these crickets.
1:36:52
Speaker 2: And it's a sad state.
1:36:53
Speaker 2: It's a sad state but I think it's all.
1:36:55
Speaker 2: It's always encouraging, it's always bring some excitement when we have these types of events going on.
1:37:01
Speaker 2: Them things is bring their own level of hope and and lift the spirits of the place a little bit.
1:37:06
Speaker 2: Right.
1:37:06
Speaker 2: And we, we beat, uh, papa new guinea.
1:37:10
Speaker 2: We beat papa new guinea the other day.
1:37:15
Speaker 2: So people happy, western, these fans are on a high, they're feeling good about itself, and so on.
1:37:20
Speaker 2: You know I mean, and we, we here, we, you can't knock them kind of things right, because I've seen world cup tournaments before where we in qualifying runs to get into the group stage and we get beat from all kind of little side, like mozambique, and you know, I mean the democratic african republic of congo, b3 and all kind of little side who don't play.
1:37:42
Speaker 2: No, former cricket was alaska and all these kind of countries who I never, papa new guinea, who them, but but.
1:37:48
Speaker 2: But at least we win the game that was in front of us and we continue to go.
1:37:52
Speaker 2: I did see some complaints, both about West Indies' performance in terms of not handily beating them, but there's one from a site, a so-called cricket.
1:38:02
Speaker 2: They say it's disgraceful and sad.
1:38:05
Speaker 2: Icc fumed that over-empty ICC fumed that over-empty West Indies T20 World Cup opener versus Papua New Guinea at home, like her spectators, at an empty stand in Guyana.
1:38:23
Speaker 2: For West Indies T20 World Cup opener left fans on social media fuming as they lashed out at the ICC.
1:38:26
Speaker 2: For West Indies T20 World Cup Open left fans on social media fuming as they lashed out at the ICC After the USA's impressive win against Canada in the 2024 T20 World Cup Open at the Grand Prairie Stadium in Dallas on Saturday.
1:38:37
Speaker 2: Co-host West Indies kicked off the Caribbean Leg of the Tournament on Sunday as they hosted Papua New Guinea at the Providence Stadium in Ghana.
1:38:43
Speaker 2: Typically, providence Stadium is a place where you'll be full Guyanese cricket fans special right.
1:38:48
Speaker 2: However, the lack of spectators and empty stands at the venue left fans and social media fuming as they lash out at the ICC, despite a decent turnout at the Nassau County International Cricket Stadium on Saturday, as New York hosted international cricket for the first time, albeit with India playing a warm-up game against Bangladesh.
1:39:04
Speaker 2: So anywhere India go, they will fill their stands right.
1:39:06
Speaker 2: West Indies the two-time champions of the 2020 World Cup, were welcomed by a sparse crowd in Guyana.
1:39:12
Speaker 2: Amid the low turnouts at the venue, the ICC was severely criticized, with fans on social media highlighting that the increased ticket price could be the reason behind home crowds showing less interest.
1:39:22
Speaker 2: So I hope that this is something that is addressed.
1:39:24
Speaker 2: And the time of day I was talking to my father earlier and he was telling me the time of day, or something my father william, he was telling me the time of day could be a factor as well, because when I started, 10 o'clock, indiana west indies cricket is still very interesting to the indian market and they will always set the times where it could be prime time for india, because they like seeing west indies play.
1:39:42
Speaker 2: But you kind of want to.
1:39:43
Speaker 2: You want to have it in a way where, especially for something as prestigious as a world cup, you want to have it in a way where, especially for something as prestigious as a World Cup, you want to have it in a way where the stands are not looking completely empty like this and it's looking like people are disinterested in the event, right?
1:39:58
Speaker 2: So I hope they could get all the issues sorted out.
1:40:01
Speaker 2: I do wish the West Indies the best of luck.
1:40:03
Speaker 2: I'm going to not say anything bad about the West Indies, right.
1:40:09
Speaker 5: A lovely day for cricket Blue skies and gentle breeze.
1:40:14
Speaker 5: The Indians are waiting now to play the West Indies.
1:40:20
Speaker 5: A signal from the umpire, the match is going to start.
1:40:26
Speaker 5: The cricketers come on the field.
1:40:30
Speaker 5: They all look very smart Irapa Liprasana, gigi Boy and Wadika Krishna Murti, and Vishnum and Khan Wish Newman.
1:40:46
Speaker 5: Could them boys could rail play cricket On any kind of wicket?
1:40:49
Speaker 5: They make the West Indies team look so bad.
1:40:53
Speaker 5: We was in all kind of trouble.
1:40:55
Speaker 5: Joey Carew, pull a muscle.
1:40:57
Speaker 5: Clive Lloyd, get about three, run out.
1:41:00
Speaker 5: We was in trouble without a doubt it was Gamasca the rail master, Just like a wall.
1:41:08
Speaker 5: We couldn't outgapca at all, not at all.
1:41:13
Speaker 5: You know the West Indies couldn't know Gamasca at all, baby.
1:41:34
Speaker 5: In October VJ jai shiva giant in Lyle they helped to win the series against the West Indies at Sabina Park and Queen's Park.
1:41:39
Speaker 5: Oval 158 by Kanai rally center were hopes of high Noriega 9 for 95, the Indian team team.
1:41:47
Speaker 5: They still survived.
1:41:48
Speaker 5: It was Gavaskar the real master, just like a wall.
1:41:53
Speaker 5: We couldn't out the vaster at all, not at all.
1:42:29
Speaker 1: You know the West Indies couldn't out the vaster at all.
1:42:37
Speaker 5: Thank, you Govind Raj and Jurani Salka.
1:42:44
Speaker 5: Abid Ali the lips are the same.
1:42:47
Speaker 5: Wish were not.
1:42:48
Speaker 5: Polka Abed Ali, the lips are the same, wish were not?
1:42:50
Speaker 5: They make West Indies bowlers look like second raters.
1:42:54
Speaker 5: When those fellows came out here to bat West Indies, try holder and keep boys, they had no other choice.
1:43:02
Speaker 5: They who try with you and thou but a shot that they're sorry, they bring him now.
1:43:14
Speaker 2: It was Damascus, the real master, just like a wall.
1:43:15
Speaker 2: He couldn't knock a basket at all.
1:43:16
Speaker 2: Not at all.
1:43:16
Speaker 2: You know.
1:43:16
Speaker 2: The West Indies couldn't knock a basket at all.
1:43:19
Speaker 2: I ain't calling out none of the West Indies.
1:43:28
Speaker 2: All the West Indies go win the 2020 World Cup.
1:43:30
Speaker 2: Hey, all you know, there's an Olympic here.
1:43:32
Speaker 2: Why nobody paying attention to the Olympics?
1:43:34
Speaker 2: We have people to send More hope and inspiration, because I like to talk about West Indies fans, but I am a fan of the soccer warriors right, the great soccer warriors and on June, the 5th this week, I will be in the stadium to see Trinidad and Tobago open its 2026 World Cup campaign against Grenada.
1:43:53
Speaker 2: I want to remind everybody that the World Cup is expected to have more people qualifying for World Cup this time, which means CONCACAF will have more places.
1:44:01
Speaker 2: I want to also remind you that the World Cup will be hosted in CONCACAF this year, which will be USA, mexico and Canada, three countries which do not have to qualify for the World Cup this year, which means, in short, trinidad has the best possible chance, or the best chance they ever had, and probably the best chance they will ever have to qualify for a World Cup.
1:44:22
Speaker 2: I want to say as well that we have the great Angus Eve at the helm, who is unbeatable and undefeatable.
1:44:36
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
1:44:36
Speaker 2: Just like a wall, there cannot be Angus at all.
1:44:39
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
1:44:39
Speaker 2: I need to make these things clear Because football has been in a state since we first qualified for the World Cup and last qualified for the World Cup same time right, and we have a tendency, just like I say the West Indies is go and get licks from all kind of little side like the West Indies lost Argentina in cricket.
1:45:06
Speaker 2: All kind of little country never play no cricket at all.
1:45:08
Speaker 2: This beat West Indies in qualifying rounds Trinidad and Tobago since 2006,.
1:45:13
Speaker 2: Developing a bad habit of bouncing up sides in early rounds in World Cup qualifying and cannot beat them.
1:45:19
Speaker 2: I don't say from nowhere, I see them play the other day in two friendlies against Guyana.
1:45:23
Speaker 2: We will have some trouble when we bounce up Costa Rica and Jamaica.
1:45:27
Speaker 2: The teams that we'd rather get past to qualify or join in qualification is Jamaica, who have all the things sorted out, with all the foreigners.
1:45:35
Speaker 2: So all Raheem Sterling coming and play for Jamaica and what's the next?
1:45:40
Speaker 2: One named Mikel Antonio, and a whole bunch of them.
1:45:44
Speaker 2: They're done in the Jamaican squad already Gray Well, a whole bunch of them in that squad and costa rica have a formidable team.
1:45:53
Speaker 2: Haiti, getting stronger.
1:45:55
Speaker 2: Panama, looking good them beat we up last time.
1:45:57
Speaker 2: Guatemala we really had a big making, a strong statement here, an opening, and I want to say the name playing grenada.
1:46:06
Speaker 2: Now this is the kind of thing where I used to go in the stadium just to enjoy a display of many, many, many, many, many goals, some spectacular, some jokey, because we're going to play against people who is postman in a day and a count and a cloak one and cloak two and you know what I mean.
1:46:20
Speaker 2: There's ex-checker and these things, because there's no professional football league.
1:46:24
Speaker 2: There are men coming from work to play football.
1:46:26
Speaker 2: Some of them still have on their shirt and tie and they're coming on the field, but of late we haven't been.
1:46:32
Speaker 2: I see TTF posts this year today.
1:46:36
Speaker 2: Previous five meetings against Grenada Trinidad and Tobago 2, grenada 2.
1:46:40
Speaker 2: This was in 2017.
1:46:41
Speaker 2: Next match 2017.
1:46:44
Speaker 2: Trinidad and Tobago 2, grenada 2.
1:46:46
Speaker 2: In 2016, trinidad and Tobago 2, grenada 2.
1:46:47
Speaker 2: In 2016, trinidad and Tobago 2, grenada 2.
1:46:50
Speaker 2: In 2010, grenada 1, trinidad and Tobago 0.
1:46:54
Speaker 2: This is the qualifying campaign, just after the one we qualified for 2006.
1:47:00
Speaker 2: And in the Digicel Cup in 2008,.
1:47:05
Speaker 2: Grenada 2, trinidad 1.
1:47:07
Speaker 2: That is just after we qualified.
1:47:09
Speaker 2: So this Grenada is not no pushover to me.
1:47:12
Speaker 2: Them used to be side we beat very, very, very bad, but we're not looking very good against these teams.
1:47:18
Speaker 2: But great Zanga to you.
1:47:19
Speaker 2: Greatest Kevin, showtime Woodley, greatest Dwayne Market, aubrey David, what can we have?
1:47:30
Speaker 2: I mean he selects some keepers.
1:47:34
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
1:47:34
Speaker 2: None of them keepers.
1:47:35
Speaker 2: He's taking his front set and them fellas getting selected.
1:47:38
Speaker 2: But no luck with that.
1:47:38
Speaker 2: But salute to the whole team.
1:47:40
Speaker 2: I'll be there on Wednesday.
1:47:41
Speaker 2: I can't take leave in the stadium Losing to Grenada or joining.
1:47:47
Speaker 2: I can't handle them kind of thing.
1:47:49
Speaker 2: So, angus, let me just do the right thing, do what is necessary, open up and be.
1:47:54
Speaker 2: I don't want no heartache.
1:47:55
Speaker 2: One nil, take nine.
1:47:56
Speaker 2: I want to be comfortable.
1:47:57
Speaker 2: I want to score three in the first minute and be comfortable.
1:48:00
Speaker 2: Buy my little nuts on wherever it is, pause and enjoy the little football in the stadium.
1:48:05
Speaker 2: Wednesday.
1:48:05
Speaker 2: We don't want no heartache and no worries.
1:48:07
Speaker 2: I'll leave it only this week.
1:48:09
Speaker 2: Because the Soka Warriors again, we traded on hope and inspiration.
1:48:15
Speaker 2: Right, and it's been a while since.
1:48:17
Speaker 2: I mean before, angus, the Soka Warriors wasn't giving you much, a whole lot of hope and inspiration.
1:48:22
Speaker 2: So I want to give you a flashback, I want to give you a memory of a Trinidad and tobago team that used to give me hope and inspiration, and they inspire some things like this this one dedicated to our strike force.
1:48:37
Speaker 3: Massive man like clayton morris, dwight york, dexter lee and morris and the beef for the victory.
1:49:12
Speaker 4: Play ball, inna di second, three, three, three, three.
1:49:13
Speaker 4: We do.
1:49:13
Speaker 4: Pass it on to the left, pass it on to the right, pass it on, make me do it same way.
1:49:15
Speaker 4: We a go play when the night or day Victory to the strike force of the AT, at, at, because we know for sure we, on the road to Italy, italy, italy, we got the answer to waste, to put it in the net for we, we, we, we, and bring pride and joy To the people in this country.
1:50:13
Speaker 2: E-U-F.
1:50:13
Speaker 2: Check the data boy.
1:50:15
Speaker 2: We'll be right back.
1:50:18
Speaker 2: What let's hear about Dexter Lee.
1:50:21
Speaker 2: Check the danger.
1:50:23
Speaker 4: Oh, you're still in the area Looks like fire, tell you looks like pizza.
1:50:28
Speaker 1: We are the best in the western area.
1:50:32
Speaker 1: Looks like fire me say looks like pizza, hello we beat up Grenada please.
1:50:43
Speaker 4: Check the danger oh, you're still in the area.
1:50:47
Speaker 4: Check the danger, oh, you're still a hero.
1:50:51
Speaker 4: On and on.
1:50:52
Speaker 4: We just keep on fighting and our team is as fast as lightning.
1:50:57
Speaker 4: On and on, on and on, on and on.
1:51:05
Speaker 4: They believe they're rough, they believe them are rough, they believe them are rough, but they're not tough like me.
1:51:15
Speaker 4: They're not tough like me.
1:51:18
Speaker 4: Why, why?
1:51:19
Speaker 4: Why?
1:51:19
Speaker 4: Why?
1:51:19
Speaker 4: Why?
1:51:19
Speaker 4: Cause anytime we come, we come dangerous, and anytime we come, we come cantankerous.
1:51:25
Speaker 4: When they go, it's so good, we make them so nervous, cause when we have to play, we make them afraid of us.
1:51:30
Speaker 4: When we put on our feet, they come, jump to their feet, come, come, come, come come come come come come come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come come come come come come come come come, come, come come come come come come come come come come come come, come, come, come, come, come come come come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come come come come come come come come, come, come, come come come come come come come come come come come come come come come come come come come come come come come come come come come come come come come come come come come come come come come come come come come come come come come come come come come come come come come come come come come, come, come, come and say two more, two more.
1:51:54
Speaker 4: Yes, that was a victory.
1:51:56
Speaker 4: And now we're going with a new dance to celebrate.
1:52:00
Speaker 4: Watch, now we will beat them with ease.
1:52:04
Speaker 4: Licks like fire, mr Licks.
1:52:06
Speaker 4: Like we put in a one, we put in a two, and when we get in victory, everybody's got a chance.
1:52:10
Speaker 4: Everybody come on, we'll be right back.
1:52:13
Speaker 4: We want a goal.
1:52:14
Speaker 4: We want a goal.
1:52:15
Speaker 4: Watch me now we want a goal.
1:52:43
Speaker 4: It's a Italy football dance.
1:52:46
Speaker 4: It's a football dance.
1:52:48
Speaker 4: Everybody do it to the football dance.
1:52:50
Speaker 4: We do it to the football dance.
1:52:52
Speaker 2: Blast from the past.
1:52:53
Speaker 2: Listen, I want to say salute to Sizzler.
1:52:56
Speaker 2: I see Sizzler, supercat, all of them here as we have a dancehall song saluting the Trinidad team.
1:53:01
Speaker 2: I want to say salute to Sizzler.
1:53:03
Speaker 2: Sizzler had some great messages for the youth in Trinidad and Tobago.
1:53:08
Speaker 2: I hope if they come out and they take in Sizzler, they listen to what Sizzler say carefully.
1:53:11
Speaker 2: But the great show in East Savannah over the weekend, from everything I understand.
1:53:14
Speaker 2: But listen, we have a long week, pace yourself.
1:53:16
Speaker 2: I know all of you are on your custom working two or three days a week.
1:53:19
Speaker 2: Pace yourself, take your time.
1:53:20
Speaker 2: The weekend soon Come.
1:53:21
Speaker 2: Go to work every day this week.
1:53:23
Speaker 2: Don't shorten up the week more than I've done, do you know?
1:53:25
Speaker 2: I mean, do a full day pay for a full day work or whatever you're supposed to say.
1:53:29
Speaker 2: That the right way and I will talk to you later next week.
1:53:32
Speaker 2: Bye, stay safe.