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Jeff Duncan talks Drew Brees & the Hall of Fame. · Out of Bounds with Bo Bounds

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Speaker 1: of Fame voter, author of Peyton and Breeze, The men
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Speaker 1: who built the greatest offense in NFL history. Jeff, first
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Speaker 1: of all, good morning, thanks for hanging out with us.
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Speaker 1: The Pro Football Hall of Fame induction a couple months away,
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Speaker 1: and We've talked to you about Peyton and Breeze many times.
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Speaker 1: I'm still fascinated by both men and their relationship, and
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Speaker 1: I know that they're close in a lot of respect.
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Speaker 1: Do you think that Breese ever finds himself having some
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Speaker 1: animosity because Peyton lost his way and it costs Breeze
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Speaker 1: a couple of years in the prime of his career.
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Speaker 2: Jeff, No not. I don't think Drew is wired that way.
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Speaker 2: I think he would look at himself and say, look,
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Speaker 2: why didn't I do better. I mean, it's just how
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Speaker 2: Drew's always the kind of looked at it. I would
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Speaker 2: be surprised if he'd blamed someone other than himself for
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Speaker 2: not accomplishing something. But certainly John Peyton bears some responsibility.
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Speaker 2: I think it was about two thousand and fourteen or
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Speaker 2: so when things really kind of went a ride. He
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Speaker 2: kind of lost his way, as you said, and it
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Speaker 2: was amazing that really. I think you have the credit
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Speaker 2: Mickey Loomis for sticking with him through those three seven
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Speaker 2: and nine seasons as they fixed the defense and brought
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Speaker 2: in Dennis Allen and had that great grab class in
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Speaker 2: twenty seventeen. A lot of people probably would have moved on,
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Speaker 2: but I think he had faith and Sean Payton, Sean
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Speaker 2: Payton did this day acknowledges that, do you.
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Speaker 1: I think Breeze is still underrated historically, even though the
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Speaker 1: Saints got a lot of love and got some prime
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Speaker 1: Tom dates and three NFC Championship games and the Lombardi Trophy.
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Speaker 1: I just still think there's a difference between doing things
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Speaker 1: at that level in New Orleans or even Seattle in
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Speaker 1: some markets, compared to some of the blue bloods of
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Speaker 1: New York, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, you know, Boston, Foxburg. You've been
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Speaker 1: covering the game for thirty years. You think I'm crazy
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Speaker 1: or do you agree with some of that?
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Speaker 2: Oh? No, I definitely believe it. I can tell you
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Speaker 2: there were some people that actually I had one person.
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Speaker 2: I'm not supposed to reveal a lot of stuff that
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Speaker 2: happens on the Hall of Fame boat, but there was
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Speaker 2: one person that actually said, if we were picking a
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Speaker 2: team right now and you were picking between Eli Manning
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Speaker 2: and Drew Brees, everyone in mist in this room would
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Speaker 2: pick Eli Manning, and my jaw about hit the floor.
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Speaker 2: And I have great respect for Eli Manning, but that
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Speaker 2: shows you that some people still do not appreciate his greatness.
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Speaker 2: And I think part of that is because of just
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Speaker 2: the way he went about being excellent, or the dominance
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Speaker 2: he showed with a very nuanced, disticated approach. Shedy, I've
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Speaker 2: compared him bo to Greg Maddox. You know, yeah, he
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Speaker 2: beats you by painting the black not with the overpowering
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Speaker 2: fastball like Nolan Ryan. Everybody appreciates Nolan Ryan. They appreciate
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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers flipping the ball sixty yards downfield. It's hard
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Speaker 2: to appreciate the precision on a daily basis or a
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Speaker 2: past to pass basis that Drew Brees had. It's uncommon,
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Speaker 2: it's genius, but it's hard to appreciate to the naked eyes,
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Speaker 2: especially in this day and age we live in where
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Speaker 2: it's all about social media, highlight and plays like that.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I can still remember not very long ago,
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Speaker 2: when you know people were talking about passes made in
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Speaker 2: a pro day. You know it would go viral for
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Speaker 2: weeks on one pass and a pro day a guy
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Speaker 2: made that's not Drew Brees. It takes something a little
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Speaker 2: more sophisticated to appreciate.
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Speaker 1: Jeff Duncan, that's a good player, coup man. I just
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Speaker 1: watched the Maddox documentary again and it's so damn Good's
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Speaker 1: that's good Drew Brees and Greg Maddox, Yes, all day long,
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Speaker 1: almost death by a thousand paper cuts. But I agree
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Speaker 1: with you in this ten to fifteen second clip of
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Speaker 1: TikTok and social media. They may not have gotten all
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Speaker 1: the love they should get over some of the other players. Okay,
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Speaker 1: so you don't think Breeze looks at it like that,
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Speaker 1: do you? So you're pretty close to these guys, considering
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Speaker 1: you know, you covered them for so long and and
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Speaker 1: wrote the book. Do you think it's still is gut
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Speaker 1: wrenching for Drew that they didn't win another He doesn't
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Speaker 1: blame it on Sean, but it's gut wrenching that they
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Speaker 1: didn't win one more Lombardi Trophy.
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Speaker 2: Jeff, Well, there's no doubt. I mean, I think instead
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Speaker 2: of blaming so on, I would think if there was
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Speaker 2: any blame, it would just be to the defense inability
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Speaker 2: to close out a game. I don't know what the
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Speaker 2: stat exactly is, but I know for a fact I've
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Speaker 2: written it a million times that he gave them the
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Speaker 2: lead or at least a tie in the final two
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Speaker 2: minutes of almost every one of those playoff games they lost.
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Speaker 2: You know, the Minneapolis Miracle, they had the lead with
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Speaker 2: twenty seven seconds left, They took the lead against the
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Speaker 2: forty nine ers in twenty eleven inside the final minute,
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Speaker 2: they tied the game against Minnesota that ultimately went in overtime.
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Speaker 2: They had the lead against the Rams, and the people
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Speaker 2: forget and the Nola no call. They actually had the lead.
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Speaker 2: You know, they just needed to close that game out
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Speaker 2: and couldn't stop the Rams from kicking a tying field goal. So,
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Speaker 2: you know, the defense at that time just could not
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Speaker 2: get the stop they needed like they did in the
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Speaker 2: Super Bowl. I mean just flipping around. I mean Tracy
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Speaker 2: Porter makes the interception and then closes out the game.
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Speaker 2: They couldn't make that play, you know, in the critical
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Speaker 2: moments of those two thousand and seventeen, eighteen, nineteen twenty seasons,
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Speaker 2: they they couldn't get off the field. So really, in
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Speaker 2: my opinion, that's why I always say that through is
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Speaker 2: the greatest closer I've ever covered. I Mean, he delivered
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Speaker 2: almost every time in those situations, but they didn't win
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Speaker 2: the game, so his heroics were kind of lost.
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Speaker 1: Jeff Duncan, Saints Insider, NOLA dot Com Times, Picky yun
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Speaker 1: on the Farm Bureau Insurance guest line. Drew Brees will
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Speaker 1: go in the Pro Football Hall of Fame this summer
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Speaker 1: in Canton, Ohio, first ballot, slam dunk and more than
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Speaker 1: deserved with what he did. So did the Saints waste
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Speaker 1: breeze in his prime.
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Speaker 2: Oh, I don't think so. No, they just couldn't win
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Speaker 2: the game. I mean they won, they couldn't win the
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Speaker 2: big game in the Keeybone. They couldn't close it out.
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Speaker 2: But they won more games than anybody in football during
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Speaker 2: that period except the Patriots. They took a franchise that
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Speaker 2: had never won at that level and wonted one of
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Speaker 2: the most absurd levels. And and in that era in football,
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Speaker 2: it broke records. They raised the perception and improved the perception,
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Speaker 2: transformed the image of the organization. And we've seen since
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Speaker 2: they left that the organization is not the same and
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Speaker 2: it and I'm not sure to ever gain that same
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Speaker 2: profile or relevance in the national consciousness. Even even if
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Speaker 2: Tyler Shutt turns out to be a franchise quarterback, it
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Speaker 2: just doesn't have the same you know, Q rating that
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Speaker 2: they had when Drew Brees was there. But I don't
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Speaker 2: I don't look at it a waist that this kind
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Speaker 2: of reminds me a little of the question. You know,
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Speaker 2: they got asked, if you honest to the tempo that
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Speaker 2: went viral? Where you know, is he is? That season
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Speaker 2: of failure? It's hard to say it's a waste or
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Speaker 2: a failure just because you don't win a title. I
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Speaker 2: know that's where we're at in America. But to me,
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Speaker 2: the success the Saints Haad Trump's anything by, you know,
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Speaker 2: saying it's a lack of championships.
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Speaker 1: Would you have him as? Would you have Drew Brees
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Speaker 1: as even though he's got one Lombardi and one Labarti's incredible,
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Speaker 1: as we all know, because Dan Fouts and Dan Marino
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Speaker 1: and Warren Moon, who are all incredible, don't have one.
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Speaker 1: And you have to have so many other things around
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Speaker 1: you to make it all work and happen, as you know.
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Speaker 1: But do you have Drew Brees as a top ten
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Speaker 1: quarterback of all time?
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Speaker 2: Oh? No question. I mean I've got him in the
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Speaker 2: top three. To me, he's one of the greatest players
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Speaker 2: in the history of the NFL. And you know, it
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Speaker 2: was amazing to me if you remember bo not too
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Speaker 2: long ago, I can't remember what year it was, two
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Speaker 2: thousand and nineteen, whatever year it was, it was not
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Speaker 2: long ago. The NFL put together a a top one
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Speaker 2: hundred players list and they used coaches, former players, and
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Speaker 2: coaches and media members to select that list and Breeze
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Speaker 2: was not even in it, and not even the top
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Speaker 2: one hundred. It was the biggest joke of all time.
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Speaker 2: I know his career wasn't over at the time, but still,
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Speaker 2: I use this fat all the time, and I'm not
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Speaker 2: a big stat guy, but it speaks to his greatness.
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Speaker 2: There have been fifteen five thousand yard passing seasons in
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Speaker 2: the history of the NFL, and Drew's got five of them.
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Speaker 2: No one else has got more than two, you know.
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Speaker 2: To me, that speaks to his prolificacy.
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Speaker 1: Wow, Drew Brees, Now, how I mean you'll be there that?
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Speaker 1: I mean? How many pieces will you write in July,
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Speaker 1: on the lead up and the weekend after as Breeze
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Speaker 1: is inducted into the Hall of Fame this summer, Jeff,
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Speaker 1: I have no idea.
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Speaker 2: We have had that meeting yet. I'm scared to know
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Speaker 2: how many it's going to be, because we wrote a
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Speaker 2: bunch of them leading up to him getting, you know,
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Speaker 2: inducted at the NFL Honors banquet at the Super Bowl,
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Speaker 2: you know, and then when he retired, we wrote even more.
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Speaker 2: And I don't think we can write enough on brew
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Speaker 2: Brees's be the greatest athlete in the history of New Orleans,
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Speaker 2: probably for Louisiana as well. And no matter what we
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Speaker 2: write on him, people devour it. They want to read
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Speaker 2: about him. And I think that's just a tribute to,
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Speaker 2: you know, his legacy and his pursuit of excellence. I
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Speaker 2: think everybody identified with that. He his storyline of bouncing
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Speaker 2: back from should the career threatening shoulder injury. I just
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Speaker 2: filed actually the story for the Hall of Fame yearbook.
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Speaker 2: It'll be sold up in Canton. So that's one I
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Speaker 2: know for sure that I had to write leading up
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Speaker 2: to it.
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Speaker 1: Hey, Jeff Duncan Nola dot Com on the out of
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Speaker 1: Bound show, Who Who? When? Do we know who's going
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Speaker 1: to introduce him? Or has it been announced?
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Speaker 2: I don't think it's been announced. I mean, I think
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Speaker 2: Grew selects it obviously who it is, and I'm sure
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Speaker 2: he will announce it in his own way, probably through
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Speaker 2: his social media. But I'd be surprised if it's somebody
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Speaker 2: other than Sean Don Paton. Yeah, to be honest with you, okay,
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Speaker 2: I think that's true. I think it'll be, but I
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Speaker 2: don't know. I mean, maybe he has somebody from you know,
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Speaker 2: his high school days or something that launched his career.
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Speaker 2: But I would imagine strong will be right at the
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Speaker 2: top of the list.
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Speaker 1: Oka what you wrote about it. We've talked about it.
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Speaker 1: Sean's fury and that's what made him brilliant and great too,
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Speaker 1: and his edge and is crazy and his ability to
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Speaker 1: harness it too when he when he needed to. How
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Speaker 1: would you describe to our listeners Drew's ability. So I
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Speaker 1: think coaching, like high school coaches and college coaches can
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Speaker 1: be even or maybe in their face or you know,
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Speaker 1: on players challenging players. But I know a lot of
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Speaker 1: that happens in the NFL, and you can walk me
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Speaker 1: through it, you know the different levels of that if
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Speaker 1: you would like. But how would you describe Breeze and
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Speaker 1: his ability to handle Sean and is crazy but also
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Speaker 1: leverage Sean's brilliance throughout their time together?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, Brees liked being coached hard. I mean throughout
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Speaker 2: his career. He wanted coaches with the same you know,
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Speaker 2: pursuit attention to detailed pursuit of excellence, so he bet
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Speaker 2: off that intensity. A lot of players do that. Cover
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Speaker 2: the play for the Saints when Sean was there, I
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Speaker 2: think once you got to know that Peyton cared about
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Speaker 2: the player. I mean, it doesn't work unless you have
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Speaker 2: the relationship as a foundation, you know. I think I
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Speaker 2: even heard brain Kelly say that because people saw him
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Speaker 2: chewing out Garrett Nussmayer on the sideline, and he talked
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Speaker 2: about that. He said, it would not work if Garrett
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Speaker 2: and I did not have a good relationship. You have
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Speaker 2: to build that trust and that respect long before you
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Speaker 2: get to that moment. I think that was certainly true
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Speaker 2: of Drew and Sean, and everybody understood. I mean, I
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Speaker 2: wrote stories about Sunday Sean and game day Sean and
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Speaker 2: standing that's how Peyton is wired on game days. What's
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Speaker 2: funny about that a little bit is I remember covering
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Speaker 2: Greg Williams. Greg Williams, if you watched him in practice,
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Speaker 2: he was a wild man in practice, showing players out,
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Speaker 2: getting them fired up. In practice. On game days he
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Speaker 2: kept a very even keel, unlike Sean. Sean was the opposite.
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Speaker 2: Sean was more of a teacher in practice, very rarely
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Speaker 2: raised his voice in practice, but on game days he
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Speaker 2: was a wild man. And I think that was the
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Speaker 2: perfect yin and yang of combination of coaches. When he
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Speaker 2: and Greg were together on that staff and won the
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Speaker 2: super because they were exact opposite on game days. And
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Speaker 2: I think what Greg would always say is, look, I
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Speaker 2: have to have the player and have to bring them
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Speaker 2: back on game days, get them because close to the
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Speaker 2: edge of the cliff as that as they can get
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Speaker 2: without going over. And I had to be the you know,
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Speaker 2: the voice of reason to get them back, whereas Dawn
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Speaker 2: was the exact opposite. And I think people fed off
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Speaker 2: that and understood that Peyton cares about them and just
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Speaker 2: wants them to be as good as they can be
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Speaker 2: at the.
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Speaker 1: Profession Saints Insider noola dot Com, Jeff Duncan on the
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Speaker 1: Farm Bureau Insurance guest Line, we're talking Drew Brees. He'll
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Speaker 1: head into the Pro Football Hall of Fame this summer,
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Speaker 1: first ballot, slam dunk. It'll be a hell of a
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Speaker 1: party for the Whudat nation in Kanton, Ohio and those
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Speaker 1: that are watching all around this region. Who was Drew
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Speaker 1: Brees's favorite skill player in New Orleans.
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Speaker 2: I would say it's a tie between Colston, Marcus Colston
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Speaker 2: and Jimmy Graham. I mean, he obviously had a very
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Speaker 2: strong connection with Jimmy Graham. He had him actually introduce
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Speaker 2: him at the Saints Hall of Fame induction ceremony a
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Speaker 2: couple of years ago. And I think Colston because they
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Speaker 2: came in together in O six and he had a
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Speaker 2: very similar kind of rags the richest story as the
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Speaker 2: seventh round pick out a hastra that nobody knew who
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Speaker 2: he was, uh, and you know, built built himself into
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Speaker 2: a you know, certainly a great college NFL player, the
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Speaker 2: all time leading receiver in the franchise. Those two stick
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Speaker 2: out to me, and I pointed this out a bunch
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Speaker 2: of times. Bo I mean, really, the only Pro Bowl
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Speaker 2: Guild position player Grew Bries ever played with other than
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Speaker 2: Michael Thomas was Jimmy Graham, who was an All Pro
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Speaker 2: tight end. That's another tribute and testament to his greatness
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Speaker 2: is that when he was when he was in his prime,
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Speaker 2: the Saint's felt so confident that his ability to raise
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Speaker 2: everyone's ability around him that they didn't invest in first
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Speaker 2: round draft pick or second round picks, even on receivers
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Speaker 2: for the most part. And we all know that game,
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Speaker 2: I think it was Thanksgiving Day against the Atlanta Falcons,
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Speaker 2: when drew through four touchdown passes to four undrafted free
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Speaker 2: agents that's never happened in NFL history, and I'm pretty
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Speaker 2: sure it won't ever happen again.
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Speaker 1: Wow. Wow, Jeff Duncan on the Out of Bound Show
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Speaker 1: ESPN one oh five nine of the Zone, How long
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Speaker 1: did you prepare so you had to present Drew Brees
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Speaker 1: to the Pro Football Hall of Fame voters? Is that
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Speaker 1: a good way to frame it up? Jeff?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I make the presentation for any I'm the New
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Speaker 2: Orleans representative, so anybody that spit the majority of their
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Speaker 2: career here, I'm the one that is given the opportunity,
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Speaker 2: first opportunity to present.
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Speaker 1: How many hours did you prep for that?
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Speaker 2: Oh? It's hard to say. I mean, obviously, my whole career,
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Speaker 2: I've been prepping for that moment. I mean in a
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Speaker 2: way because I did the Peyton books. But you still
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Speaker 2: have to take it seriously. You have an obligation of
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Speaker 2: responsibility to the player. It's part of their legacy. It
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Speaker 2: means so much to their families. Uh So, in the past,
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Speaker 2: some players, their their greatness was so obvious. I can
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Speaker 2: still remember a few players, Brett Barb being one, where
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Speaker 2: the presenter just said the name and we all just
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Speaker 2: got on with our business because we knew they were
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Speaker 2: going in. It was like literally one second presentation. But
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Speaker 2: in in defense, in like, as we've gone on, the
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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame has decided, Hey, we owe it to
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Speaker 2: the player to present them. I think they like to
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Speaker 2: film it to and use it as part of the
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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame media. Uh So now we do the
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Speaker 2: do the full presentation. I did the only allowed five minutes.
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Speaker 2: I did the full five minutes and Drew even though
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Speaker 2: I think everybody in the room he was going in
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Speaker 2: right away.
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Speaker 1: When was the last time you talked to Drew Brees?
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Speaker 2: Probably just at the Hall of Fame, I mean at
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Speaker 2: the NFL Honors the night he got.
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Speaker 1: In, Okay, And where was that at the Super Bowl?
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Speaker 2: Yeah? I was out in San Francisco right after the
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Speaker 2: after he was inductor, I mean after he was announced
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Speaker 2: as a member of the Class of twenty twenty six.
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Speaker 2: And uh he was overwhelmed, even though I'm sure he
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Speaker 2: felt confident he was going in. Now, I did talk
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Speaker 2: to him before. I always liked to talk to the
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Speaker 2: player i'm representing or presenting the candidate beforehand and send
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Speaker 2: them my presentation. I want them to feel a part
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Speaker 2: of the process. I don't know if the other Hall
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Speaker 2: of Fame Selection Committee members do that, but I feel
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Speaker 2: it's a team effort. We want to we want to
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Speaker 2: accomplish this together, if you will. Certainly the players accomplishing
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Speaker 2: it on their on the you know, the basis of
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Speaker 2: the career, but I want them involved and engaged. And
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Speaker 2: and he called me that morning. We talked through it
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Speaker 2: the morning of the presentation. Didn't really have any big
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Speaker 2: changes or anything, but he was he was all in
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Speaker 2: as he always is.
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Speaker 1: And I'm sure you're planning to try to get some
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Speaker 1: one on one with him before it or like during
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Speaker 1: the weekend. How does that How does that look or
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Speaker 1: how do you think that may look? Yeah?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's he's so busy in his personal
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Speaker 2: life with his own business ventures and things he's doing.
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Speaker 2: But I'm sure at some point here in the next
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Speaker 2: once I figure out what we're all going to be
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Speaker 2: responsible for doing, I'll try and get with him out
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Speaker 2: in California and get out there and spend some time
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Speaker 2: with him. You know, there's only so much that hasn't
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Speaker 2: been written about him. That's the thing. You know, this
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Speaker 2: we've written so much as a journalist. As a writer,
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Speaker 2: it's sometimes The challenge is trying to find a new
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Speaker 2: way to present information that you've you know, been presenting
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Speaker 2: your whole career. I mean not just dusting at the
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Speaker 2: time of speaking Union in the New Orleans, but I
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Speaker 2: mean Drew's a high profile star athlete who's been covered
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Speaker 2: at a high level throughout his career, so his story
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Speaker 2: has been well documented. Finding something new will be a challenge.
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Speaker 1: What do you think he wants to do? Do you
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Speaker 1: think he wants to call games on a regular basis?
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Speaker 2: Yeah? I think he wants to stay involved. You know,
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Speaker 2: I can see him one day potentially, you know, maybe
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Speaker 2: after his kids. You know, his kids are getting older now,
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Speaker 2: once they get out of the house, maybe on to college.
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Speaker 2: I can see him wanting to be involved, sort of
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Speaker 2: like Tom Brady is with the Raiders at that level
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Speaker 2: of the NFL, almost at ownership management level. I don't
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Speaker 2: see him ever getting into coaching. I don't think that's
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Speaker 2: what he wants to do, but I think that's going
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Speaker 2: to be a ways off. I think he wants to
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Speaker 2: be a dad right now and invest in in his
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Speaker 2: kids before they leave while he's got that time.
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Speaker 1: Sure, all right, I just want you to know that
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Speaker 1: was awesome, and we may have to do that, like
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Speaker 1: we may have to do this a couple more times,
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Speaker 1: even before you go up up to Canton. I just
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Speaker 1: think this is going to be incredible, the celebration of
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Speaker 1: Breeze throughout the summer, but definitely in in late July
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Speaker 1: in Canton, Ohio. I'm fascinated with him. But then after
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Speaker 1: you wrote the book and everything else, and you know,
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Speaker 1: after someone leaves and you you realize they were great
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Speaker 1: along the way, but then you realize how really, you know,
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Speaker 1: great and incredible they were. You were fortunate too to
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Speaker 1: be able to cover him. I'm sure you realize that, right.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah. And I was going back reading through Cayton
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Speaker 2: and Breeze when I was writing this Hall of Fame
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Speaker 2: year book story just to kind of refresh my memory
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Speaker 2: and found myself is my own work, but I still
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Speaker 2: found myself being engrossed and impressed with just his great
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Speaker 2: you know, pursuit of excellence and attention to detail everything
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Speaker 2: that made him through Breeze. I think you're right, so
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Speaker 2: we realized how special it was and how special he was.
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Speaker 2: The further we get away from his tenure here.
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Speaker 1: Wow. Jeff Duncan Nola dot Com wrote the book Peyton
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Speaker 1: and Brees. He joined us on the Out of Bounds Show.
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Speaker 1: We'll do this again. He'll be there throughout the week
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Speaker 1: and weekend as Drew is celebrated and goes into the
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Speaker 1: Pro Football Hall of Fame. Jeff Duncan thank you, my friend.
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Speaker 1: Appreciate you.
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Speaker 2: Appreciate you too, Bud. Take care both.
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