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Arpana Jinaga: A Halloween Murder & Broken Justice | Redmond, WA · PNW Haunts & Homicides

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How a case is approached from minute one matters.
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Because one misstep can leave so much room for speculation, for doubt, and ultimately,
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a completely solvable case may end up in a stack of unsolved cold cases or become
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a conspiracy theory where no one can agree on a firm accounting of many of the facts.
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Hi Cassie.
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Hi Caitlyn.
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Hi creepy people.
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Hello.
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Hello.
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If you're new to our creepy corner of the world, this is PNW Haunts and Homicides, where we chat
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about true crime, paranormal, and all things creepy in the Pacific Northwest.
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We also do a tarot reading at the end of every episode for deeper insight into our topic.
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So make sure you stick around if you're into that witchy goodness.
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All right, so today while you're listening to this more than likely, it's Halloween,
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that's the day we're releasing this episode.
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So I am so excited.
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I love Halloween.
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I love Halloween.
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Halloweeny.
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I like weenies too.
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Oh boy.
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Well, get a good chuckle in now.
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Cause I'm going to I'm going to quash that laughter.
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Yeah, I know.
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Yeah, it's kind of my thing.
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You guys, I just have to start this episode by saying that real life and particularly true
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crime, well, they're both pretty messy.
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Kind of like when I was trying to put those little drinks skewers on with our fancy rosemary
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and apple.
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It's a pretty looking cocktail though.
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Yeah, you'd never know that there was a mess involved.
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Yeah, but there was.
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This wasn't exactly what I thought I was getting into when I started researching the case.
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And I might have considered going with a different case for Halloween under different circumstances.
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Maybe something from a bygone era that allowed us all to get a little bit of distance.
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Celebrate in a more lighthearted way and maybe you'll wish that I did.
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I hope not.
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We can all be fun in games all the time.
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This is true.
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This is true.
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That's not life, baby.
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But this case has almost ripped me in half.
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I swear.
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It's more times than I can count.
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It made me angry and I hope there's a lot about this story that makes you angry but also
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makes you think.
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I know that we can't all be out changing the very fabric of society each and every day
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as individuals.
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But we can refuse to look away and we can sit in uncomfortable spaces in the hopes of
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growing.
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Please come with us.
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I mean, uncomfortable is nice sometimes, right?
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It makes you enjoy the comfortable.
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I'm hoping that's what everybody is going to say.
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Well, I said it for them.
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Perfect.
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Now you'll recall we were discussing Emanual Fair's trial.
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That's the short little mini sneak peak clip, if you will, that was part of our Halloween
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collaboration.
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That's the case we're talking about today.
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Spoilers.
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Not really spoilers.
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No, not at all.
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Unless you haven't listened to it, go back, maybe.
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Yeah, I would say.
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And there's two parts to the collaboration.
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If somehow you missed part two, drop in, go back and listen to that.
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I'm sure there's some fun creepy stuff in there too.
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We're actually in part two.
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This case truly spans decades already.
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Investigators could not establish an exact time of death, instead speculating that our
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panna had died at some point early in the morning hours following the Halloween party.
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Sometime between 3 and 8 a.m.
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The witching hour.
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Yeah.
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If you're following up listening to the first segment of this story from the Halloween
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collaboration, you might also recall that they found Arpana at the foot of her bed.
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Her autopsy would later show that she died of esphyxia by ligature strangulation.
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Her manner of death was obviously brutal, but within the report it was also noted that
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she had sustained multiple blunt force injuries.
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However, there are a number of details that we omitted from that short excerpt of the
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story for, obviously for brevity.
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The attack that she had endured and specifically the head trauma resulted in several broken teeth,
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which is a particular no no for my brain.
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Yeah, as soon as you said teeth, I was like, "Uh oh, she hates it."
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I hate it.
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But it's these next couple of details that are upsetting, I think, for all of the brains,
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but I do think that they're important to share so that you understand the depth of depravity
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when it comes to her killer.
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Arpana was also gagged using her own underwear, and duct tape was applied as well to keep that
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in place.
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Oh God, using someone's own underwear is just like so.
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What is that word demoralizing?
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It is.
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Demeaning all of that.
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Yeah, it's really.
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Yeah.
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Presumably prior to her assault, though the final detail related to her assault isn't
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completely clear in regards to the timeline.
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And I'm going to tell you that final detail now.
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Okay.
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Prior to the sexual assault, her tampon was removed.
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Oh, okay.
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Which is just, to me, a level of horror that I feel like it's probably wrapped up in a lot
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of shame more than anything about female bodily functions, but it really got me in a place
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that I didn't know I had feels.
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And I hate it.
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Well, even if you don't have shame, which nobody should, about their womanly bleed, it's
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fine.
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I'm not sure if it's clear, but like it's just so intimate, I feel like it is.
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Yeah.
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It is really intimate.
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Yeah.
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I mean, so is sex, obviously, but there's just, yeah, there's something about that, you're right.
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But to do that, which is this, you know, my God, a very like you say, intimate and not in
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a good way, yeah, there's no positive connotation there.
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And then to do something this brutal to her, I just, I can't fathom it.
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You'll also recall the laundry list of odd household items that were used pretty bizarrely
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seemingly to eradicate evidence bleach, blue toilet bowl cleaner, a common household type
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of soap and motor oil.
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Ugh, the motor oil thing is just really freaks me out.
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Expanding on that, apparently the killer scrubbed her body with bleach.
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Oh, scrubbed it?
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That's how I've heard it described.
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Investigators even noting that her hands were stained blue from some type of highly acidic
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cleaning agent.
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So I think that's where the toilet bowl cleaner comes in.
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What the fuck?
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It's very strange.
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So let's talk about potential perpetrators.
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Now before a manual was charged, police had another person of interest, several, in fact,
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one of whom was a neighbor of Arpana's, a white man in his twenties, the same neighbor
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who'd entered the apartment with Arpana's family friend.
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Also notably someone who is also reportedly considered a suspect in the early days of the
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case.
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So these are the two people that discovered her body.
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One is a neighbor, one is a family friend.
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That sucks to find that and then be also accused.
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I could not agree more.
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I suspected, not accused, but suspected.
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Yeah, I mean, the fact that they suspect you sort of implies an accusation in a way.
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The initial investigation focused on this individual and that is the neighbor who is unlikely
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to be named in most source material that you would come across in this case.
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Unlike Emanual, of course.
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So a lot of source material protects a number of these potential suspects or persons of
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interest, their names.
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And unfortunately, obviously that same level of courtesy or privacy that they're afforded
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is not something that you'll see for Emanual.
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I was going to say that's understandable that they wouldn't want to release their names.
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Yeah, I feel like it is somewhat unusual.
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I think more often than not, we see the names of potential perpetrators being shared.
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So that kind of, in my mind, that sort of threw up a flag that there's so many of them
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that have by and large remained unnamed.
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At the time, investigators found the neighbor's activities on the night in question a little
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bit suspicious.
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His phone records revealed that he called Arpana at around 3 a.m.
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on the earliest end of time window of her death.
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So, okay.
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Why?
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I just have to say, why?
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He said he did not remember making the call.
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Okay, well, come on.
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Yeah, I don't love that, but this individual's DNA was also the primary profile found on key
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pieces of evidence such as the bottle of motor oil that was discovered in a bag, along
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with what authorities presumed was the red robe that Arpana wore on the dates in question,
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as well as inside the window of her apartment.
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So, oh, we've got his DNA in one form or fashion.
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In the motor oil?
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Uh-huh.
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And he wasn't charged?
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Nope.
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Other than fair and the neighbor, no other DNA profiles from party goers present that night
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were found on evidence at the crime scene.
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According to court records, there's still more.
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Like the lighter that was found in his apartment with a sticky substance on it that could have
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been motor oil, but investigators never collected it.
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What?
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Okay.
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I see that there's some shenanigans going on here.
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Well, that's one way to put it.
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Also located in the search was a list of pawn shops that was printed the day that Arpana
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was killed.
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Both her phone and digital camera were never recovered that I could determine.
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Okay.
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I think the thought process there being that maybe this person stole those items and went
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to pawn them, but they never found them at pawn shops or anything or did they even look?
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I, it's unclear.
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Yep.
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Caitlyn, you're supposed to know everything.
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I, I wish.
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Several people present the night of the party stated that they saw him quote, exhibit jealous
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behavior when she talked to other men at the party.
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Ugh.
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So, also that.
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A review of the transcript of his interview with police reveals that he reported hearing
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sounds coming from her apartment around 3 a.m.
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But he didn't make much of it and waited until roughly 10 a.m. to call her the next morning.
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When police looked at his phone, they noted that he had also called her at 2:56 a.m.
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and 3:02 a.m.
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Okay.
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That sounds like someone who is jealous.
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Yeah.
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I mean, that's definitely right before the window of time where she died as well.
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And if he's hearing stuff from her room and then was like, oh, I didn't think anything about
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it, but earlier was exhibiting jealous behavior.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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So, here's probably the best part about this, which it doesn't mean anything to be clear.
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I'm not saying that anyone in this case is guilty when confronted with the evidence that
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they found in his call log.
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My notes say to which he said, oh, crap.
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Before insisting that he didn't remember why he called her.
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Oh, crap.
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Huh?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, guy.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, which could be a thousand percent accurate.
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It could be a simple misremembering of the facts after the fact when alcohol was likely
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heavily involved for many of these people, or it could have been a butt dial for that
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matter.
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I mean, drunk dialing is a thing, butt dialing is a thing, especially at that point.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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At a point in time where you very literally could butt dial.
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You can't really do that now.
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Everyone's got their phone, you know, with a passcode or something.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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But of course, I saved the most bizarre detail for last that viewed in a certain light is
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perhaps the most damning.
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According to interviews by the police, it was at roughly 10 a.m. on the morning that Arpana
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was killed that this man's decided to drive two hours up to Canada.
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Oh, okay.
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Where he wait for it.
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Try to blow through the gates without a passport.
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He told detectives he wanted to quote, explore honey.
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Go south.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That is a little bit.
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But seriously, like if you're going to try to blow through a border, I wouldn't have tried
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Canada.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I understand that it was closer.
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Yeah.
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I.
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That is super.
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That is like not okay.
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It's it's very erratic.
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It's very strange.
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This next paragraph, I'm just taking directly from a Rolling Stones article that primarily
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focused on Emanual's life and the impact of the case.
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At the end of the interview when investigators had started putting pressure on him, he asked
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investigators to turn off the recording and he discussed something that can't be found
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in the police record.
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What?
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When asked what the neighbor said in a pretrial interview obtained by the suspect
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podcast, detective codes simply said, I don't recall, despite the apparent evidence against
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him, investigators let him leave the police station with his blackberry according to police
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records, which he subsequently scrubbed.
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So when you're asked, what what did the neighbor who tried to literally flee the country
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say in his pretrial interview, I don't recall.
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Also we let him leave the station with his blackberry and it has subsequently been wiped
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just to tidy up that little summary for you in case your brain actually exploded hearing
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that the first time.
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I don't recall where my brain went.
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Yeah.
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Through the ceiling actually.
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Wow.
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Obviously, you know.
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We went up to the roof and she took her brain out and she said, a throat on the ground.
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I was going to say there's a Caitlyn and Cassie brain shaped hole in the ceiling.
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Yeah.
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Absolutely.
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Did that make sense?
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Yeah, I did.
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Here's the kind of crazy thing to me.
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Even if based on some of the DNA and other forensic evidence, the idea might have seemed
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plausible.
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Ostensibly, the prosecution wanted to charge Emmanuel, an only Emanuel, which they did, but
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they wanted to argue that maybe the neighbor had something to do with it.
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This next part is about how that shook out.
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I just can't believe this.
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Like, yeah, I would say that the neighbor looks a little, maybe not hands perfectly clean.
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On this, but what do I know?
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I mean, if his DNA was found on the motor oil, that was a part of the crime scene evidence
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taken, I just feel like that's.
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It doesn't look great.
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Yeah.
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But it's like they can't make up a clear series of events.
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They can't figure out who has the motive or.
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So when you bring a case to court, ideally, you want to really know exactly what happened.
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Yeah.
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That's how you get a conviction.
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Before the trial, it was decided that the evidence linking the neighbor to possible involvement
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in the crime was admissible.
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But the prosecution would of course argue that incriminating evidence against the neighbor
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did not inherently mean that Emanual was innocent, which is true.
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But for Christ's sake, guys, can you just present a clear case?
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Anyways, I digress.
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It seemed far more reasonable that two people who would only just barely met might have teamed
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up on this horrific crime out of the blue.
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Because why not, right?
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I know I like to.
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I don't like to.
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But I do do this.
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I know that I often assume the worst about men, but this seems a bit of a stretch.
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Yeah, I agree.
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According to the state's case, the neighbor was classified more accurately as an uncharged
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accomplice rather than the other suspect.
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Though to be fair, prosecutors were barred from using the argument that the neighbor and
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Emanual had acted as accomplices.
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It's a reason that there wasn't sufficient evidence to support theory, which no shit
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sure lock.
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The state court of appeals upheld the court's decision and the state's Supreme Court ultimately
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declined to review it.
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This is just so ridiculous.
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Like if you can't figure out who you think did it and whether or not it was more than
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one perpetrator, maybe that's not a case we take to court.
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I was gonna say maybe you're not ready yet, maybe sit on that egg a little while and let
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it hatch.
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You let you put that one back in the oven.
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She needs to keep cooking.
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We were restricted in what we could say in that they may have acted together, said Brian
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McDonald, one of two lead prosecutors on the case.
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You'll know I did include his name.
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This restriction allowed the defense to argue that any evidence involving the neighbor
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should be reasonable doubt as to whether Emanuel committed the crime.
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Emanuel contends in a lawsuit that authorities, quote, ignored and failed to gather evidence
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that did not align with their theory of the case.
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Because yeah, in case it wasn't already clear, there's a lawsuit.
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That's good.
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Yeah, I tend to think so.
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Now there are additional persons of interest that you'd hear more about in more in-depth
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coverage in a multi-part case series.
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I did not do that.
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It's only Halloween for one day.
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Yeah, this was already a lot.
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Some of them were part of a local motorcycle group that Arpana had joined.
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Oh, Arpana!
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I know.
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I love that.
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Don't love that they're suspected.
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Yeah.
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I like this next party, the less.
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Okay.
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Two of the members of the group had a history of sexual crimes.
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But one in particular had been actively sexually harassing her reportedly.
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Oh, so that's damn.
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Depending on how shaded you are, this next part may or may not surprise you at this point.
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Police also found DNA from a third biker who she had been sleeping with on her costume.
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That's where they found the DNA.
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And on the sheet that was draped over her body.
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Okay.
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I mean, if she was already doing it with them, I could see how...
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Maybe that was already there.
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Yeah.
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It's hard to say.
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Additionally, there was another resident at the apartment complex that unfortunately died
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by suicide just days after her death.
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Oh, no.
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This individual's DNA was never compared to the crime scene according to the most recent
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reporting on the case based primarily on Emanuel's lawsuit.
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So I have every reason to think that I'm not mistaken here.
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Unfortunately, they did not test that person's DNA against the evidence.
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Oh, so that's us.
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That's unfortunate.
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Now here's where we turn a corner because this case certainly at least feels more complicated
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than I understood it to be at the outset because there are certainly factors related to
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the individuals involved in this case that are at least cause for concern or consideration,
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maybe pause.
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And that of course includes Emanuel.
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I say this with trepidation because I can't tell you that I've landed on my own personal,
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solid theory in this case.
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But I want to represent as much information about every aspect of the case as I can so
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that you walk away feeling like maybe you can decide for yourself.
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If it were more clear, you know, I take no issue with roasting the guilty party.
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The problem is that in a case like this, it just might be too ambiguous to do so with
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any confidence.
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Oh, and yeah, we don't want to be sued.
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Yeah, no.
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So there's that.
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A handful of years before our Arpana's horrific murder, Emanuel Fair had been arrested and
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charged with raping a minor.
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Ew.
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According to the 15 year old victim, he had raped her numerous times, which is unimaginably
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awful.
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However, there was an additional altercation that took place in Burian where Emanuel reportedly
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choked the girl at gunpoint.
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Oh, the choking.
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He was arrested for this crime and ended up pleading guilty to avoid a decade plus prison
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sentence, pleading down from second degree to third degree rape.
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Though Emanuel began serving out his four year sentence in 2004, he would ultimately be
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released in less than three years.
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At the time of his release, he was labeled a level one offender, meaning he was amongst
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those considered the least likely to reoffend.
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If you want to hear another infuriating case about someone labeled a level one sex offender,
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go back and listen to the Richard Gilmore aka the jogger rapist case.
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I remember that.
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That's the first thing that popped in my head when he said that.
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At gunpoint.
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Reportedly.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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Report allegedly.
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I get it.
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Yeah.
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I mean, he was convicted.
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So I feel like I'm honestly probably being a bit generous.
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But we're trying to parse out some nuance here.
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Yeah.
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However, as is often the case, Immanuel failed to abide by the terms of his release and ultimately
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his probation violations landed him in custody of the state again.
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Once released in the fall of 2006, Emanuel would commence a roughly three year long period
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of cycling between either homelessness or prison incarceration.
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Damn.
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This included the period in which Arpana was murdered.
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He was couch surfing with a friend that lived in the complex on that fateful night.
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Initially the friend he had been staying with lied about the fact when questioned by police.
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But they were later able to determine he had been present by coming through the various
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photos that partygoers had taken.
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Many posted to Facebook as was the norm for many 20-somethings at that time.
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Yeah.
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Social media will get your ass.
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Once jailed he would remain there for eight years, seven months and 14 days.
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Let's recall that this is all without ever being convicted of a crime.
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Jesus.
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At least not this crime.
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That's a long time though.
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Yes.
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I probably said that last time, but oh my god.
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During this period he was primarily isolated due in large part to the fact that the facility
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was not designed for long term imprisonment.
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Throughout the duration he maintained his innocence.
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So what does it tell you when someone has basically overstayed their welcome in a facility
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that's not meant for someone to be held long term?
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There's so many things wrong with that.
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And if you held for eight years when you're saying you're innocent, if you're really innocent
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and then you're being kept in solitary, oh my god, that just fucks with you.
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So I would implore you to listen to this next section with an open mind.
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Not because I necessarily feel confident that Emanual is completely innocent, but because
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we're all supposed to be innocent until proven guilty.
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And because at this stage, whether what's been shared with you up to this point has you
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convinced one way or another regarding Emanual's guilt or innocence or another suspects
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for that matter, it's important to note that there's no official resolution.
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How a case is approached from minute one matters because one misstep can leave so much room
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for speculation, for doubt, and ultimately a completely solvable case may end up in a
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stack of unsolved cold cases or become a conspiracy theory where no one can agree on a firm
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accounting of many of the facts.
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It's a wax cylinder, the only thing we've found that can pick up the voices of people in
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your condition.
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My name is Owen von Sid, I am a reclamer.
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Do you know what that means?
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No?
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Well, I am sorry to inform you that you didn't make it.
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Please try to remain calm.
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The worst is over.
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Nothing can hurt you, not ever again.
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But the thing that did this to you is still out there.
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That is what we do.
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I wake unfortunate souls such as yourself, hear their stories, then my associates and I
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see to it that whoever or whatever did this to you is dealt with.
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Now let's begin.
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When you are ready.
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Tell me.
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You guys were back.
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And don't worry, we did get more wine.
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Well, of course.
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Emanuel would ultimately face two trials.
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In our previous discussion of the case, we left off at the first in 2017.
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The trial ended in a hung jury because of one juror who said, "And yes, this is a quote."
31:56
After the trial that when he looked at Emanuel, he saw a "thug" with tattoos on his hands.
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Okay.
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The second trial ended in June of 2019.
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Jesus.
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The jury determined that the detectives and prosecutors had never had a strong enough case
32:22
against him.
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He was cleared of all charges and was released.
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Which makes it all seem too easy.
32:33
Now, two years later, he's suing everyone that had the power to put him in that cell.
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He filed a lawsuit against the county, the city of Redmond, the Redmond Police Department,
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even the detective on the case.
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The prosecutor, amongst many others, were later added to the complaint by his legal team.
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Quoting again here.
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The suit contends that he never would have been in that cell and certainly not for years
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if he weren't a black man with a criminal record.
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The suit describes an investigation that was so badly handled it can only be characterized
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as bizarre.
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Yeah, holy shit.
33:29
What's upsetting about that is that it's really not that bizarre.
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Yeah.
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It's baffling, but I would argue it is something we're all a little too accustomed to.
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Yeah, pretty common.
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And again, I'm not clamoring saying that I believe him to necessarily be innocent, but two
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rungs don't make a right.
33:58
Rolling stones account of Emanual's case and the investigation into Arpana's murder
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is based on more than a thousand pages of case files and legal documents.
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They show that there was persuasive evidence against at least six other suspects that the
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detectives were investigating none of whom were black and none of whom spent a day in jail
34:26
for Arpana's murder.
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His lawsuit claims the detectives on the case ignored and failed to gather evidence that
34:36
did not align with their theory of the case, but it also alleges they treated Emanual so
34:43
differently than the white suspects that the treatment can only be viewed as racial discrimination.
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It's very clear.
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I mean, if that's not what it is, then they really fucked themselves.
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They really shot themselves in the foot by just bungling through.
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The case files illustrate a number of breaches of protocol, some characterized as careless
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errors, which is not something I ever want to see in connection with a murder investigation.
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You'd hope.
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Just a few examples, such as not training their detectives to change gloves between DNA
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samples.
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What the fuck years is this?
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I literally don't remember.
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I think it's like 2009.
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Way after CSI.
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Like, you know these things, even if you're not trained.
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You should know.
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Right.
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Jesus, really.
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They didn't change their effing gloves.
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You have to do that while handling food.
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And also not securing key locations of the crime scene.
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There's more.
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To calling in a famous psychic medium to weigh in on the case, which like do you boo, but
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you don't get to do that when you've done all of the other things that predate that.
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Yeah.
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Doing that should just supplement all the right things you do.
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I just, and there's a lot of people that would say, no, you never do that.
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So I feel as though we're being fairly generous.
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And I think it's because we're witches, but the case against a manual that led to his nearly
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nine years spent behind bars relied heavily on DNA evidence.
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Trace amounts found on Arpana's neck, her robe, and the duct tape used to restrain
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her.
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But understanding how some of that evidence could have been mishandled, certainly muddies
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the water.
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It also seems fair to say that Emanual's background likely led to bias as well.
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When they ran a background check and discovered that he had a record, they may have immediately
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thought they'd found their man.
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Though the bulk of the report showed mostly juvenile offenses like possession of drugs
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and an unlicensed weapon.
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There was a charge that would have stood out from 2004, the third degree rape charge.
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He had entered an Alfred plea in that case, which means that he accepted the plea agreement
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while still maintaining his innocence.
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A common tactic when you can't afford to go to trial.
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Oh, that just makes me so sad because what if he is innocent of all of it?
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He spent three years in prison for that charge.
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In a 2016 pretrial interview obtained by the suspect podcast, Detective Cotes was asked
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if the prior conviction was significant to his investigation.
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He replied, "If you've done it before, you'll do it again."
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Oh, come on.
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Which I hate how much.
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It brought up Richard Gilmore for me because that's exactly what I would say about him.
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Yeah.
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And hopefully, I'm wrong.
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I'm fucking hopes so too.
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Which may well be at least anecdotally correct.
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I think there are statistics to back that up with certain types of crimes, but it doesn't
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necessarily look great to have said that on the record regarding this case.
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Yeah, because you're never going to get rid of that.
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You're always going to have that bias now.
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Yep.
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But of course, it was the testing of the DNA that really got us here.
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His DNA matched a sample found on Arpana's robe that was found at the crime scene, which
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as you'll recall was an unsecured apartment unit and the complex dumpster, essentially.
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They also confirmed that he was a match to DNA connected to the role of duct tape that
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was used in the crime scene as well, which would be damning, but I feel as though there could
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be plenty of reasonable explanations on Halloween night for him to have touched that in a completely
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unrelated manner.
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Doesn't that seem like something, you know, like part of your costume is, you know, coming
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apart.
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Maybe you need a piece of duct tape or I don't know.
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I just feel like in a big group of drunk people, presumably on Halloween night at a Halloween
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party in costumes, like something breaks.
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I just, I came up with a few different ideas for like why maybe that happened.
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Yeah.
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Why would you need duct tape?
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What would you need it for?
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Why would there be a perfectly reasonable, like alternate story behind that?
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Well, people use duct tape all the time.
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It's a staple, so I think it's less suspicious than the fucking motor oil.
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Yeah.
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I have to agree.
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I have to agree.
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But it's hard to know one way or the other.
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There was also a match to a tiny sliver of DNA, so small that it had to be sent to a specialized
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lab on the front of Arpana's neck.
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So, but I have to wonder if our evolving understanding of touch DNA in more recent years
40:59
perhaps changes the perception of how valuable this particular sample is to the prosecution's
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case.
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It's entirely possible in certain situations, especially if you were engaged in some type
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of an intimate or sexual encounter that was consensual that you could leave DNA behind
41:24
on someone.
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Yeah.
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So, this case is really one of the first where I thought to myself, wow, is that even evidence?
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I'm certainly not going to, I'm not going to say one way or the other.
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I don't have enough detailed in-depth knowledge of how that DNA testing is done, you know,
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what the sample size is, but it's my new, it's done by a specialty lab and it definitely
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makes you wonder.
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Did they say what it was?
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What if he just like sneezed on her?
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Yeah, that's the other thing is, you know, I probably could have dug around any of the
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court records to find out like, okay, is this blood, is this semen, is this spit, is this,
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but to me, it almost is like, if it's really that minute, it almost doesn't even matter.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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It's about a hug or something, what if, I don't know.
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I mean, quite literally, I've been hearing more and more about cases where people are convicted
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on, you know, such minute samples or, you know, this kind of, the principle of it being touch
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DNA and it really sets people up to look guilty when they're not because the jury is made
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up of people like me who don't really understand that like, this is minute and they're not going
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out of their way to explain that.
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Police files show that there are multiple other men in Arpana's life that had as much
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if not more evidence against them and several more that were never thoroughly investigated.
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The key difference between them, the suit alleges is that none of the other men were black.
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Under the law, probable cause requires you to look at the whole picture.
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You can't leave out the fact that there was basically everyone else's DNA at the scene
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too and they did.
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And that's a quote actually taken from a statement provided by Emanuel's legal team.
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And you know what, they're not wrong.
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No, because they're lawyers, so they checked.
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They lawyered hard.
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They lawyered so hard.
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His and an uncle showed up at the courthouse every day during his trial.
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Whenever his case was on the docket, even if he wasn't going to be there, they packed lunch
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and snacks for long hours spent on hard courthouse benches.
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Now his aunt describes that time as understandably the worst years.
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Years.
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I just, I cannot believe how long it took.
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Emanuel now lives with the couple as he attempts to rebuild his life, but he struggled finding
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suitable long term employment.
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I, yeah, make sense.
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But prepare yourself because you're going to be super pissed about some of the employment
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that he has found.
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According to the Rolling Stone, since his release, he exists in a strange systemic purgatory.
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A man who was incarcerated for nearly a decade, but never convicted of a crime.
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Emanuel says that while he was in jail, he dreaded the possibility of being convicted and
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exonerated.
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His lawyers say that in some ways, at least, he would have been better off if he had been.
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His lawyer said, let's imagine that Immanuel was wrongfully convicted.
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He would have spent a number of years in prison, but when he got out, he would be on parole.
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There would be people to help him get a job, to help him get his feet on the ground, some
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very, very needed mental health care.
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He suffers from depression, anxiety and PTSD, but because he wasn't convicted, he's got nothing.
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Nothing, they don't do anything for you.
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And I said, you're going to hate what kind of work he has found.
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He has worked in security.
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I was going to say security, which is just, you know, for anyone that's been convicted of
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a crime previously, you know, this is prior to the crime that we're even talking about today.
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I'm sorry, you just, what?
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Yeah, security, but security, you know, it should feel secure.
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It boggles the mind.
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And this next part, it really makes me want to cry.
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Emanuel says that he was reluctant to file his lawsuit at first, knowing that Arpana's
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family still hasn't gotten justice.
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There's no resolution for this case, no resolution for her.
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He said that?
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That just makes me feel like he is innocent.
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I mean, it could be for show, but I just don't know why you would say something like that.
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Just never talk about it again.
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Right.
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I mean, you're in a lawsuit, but still.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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It really, it really makes you think.
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And I definitely, I'll show you some of the photos that I found.
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And you can help me pick out our, our photos for the, for any of our posts this week.
47:18
But my God, to look at some of these photos, I just think it's, it's going to be a tough,
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tough thing for someone to convince me that, that this is the guy.
47:32
And the fact that he, the Alfred plea, in the case where he was convicted, it just, yeah,
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it's a really sad story from every single angle.
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So, because he never got the chance the first time to prove he was innocent.
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Yeah.
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He just had to do that.
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Yeah.
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So happy fucking Halloween.
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This was it.
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Yeah, it was, it was a really rough one.
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Do you see these?
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I have goosebumps all over me.
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Yeah, my feet have been getting really chilled.
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That's why I have one leg up in my chair.
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It didn't start until you said that quote.
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And then I just, all of a sudden got all my hair is standing out.
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I've had the chili willies for about three or four minutes now.
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Yeah.
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So, wow.
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Yeah.
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So, you think we should do some, Tarot?
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Yeah, let's do some, Tarot.
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Tara.
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Let's do the more actual Halloweeny stuff.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I feel like it always makes us feel better.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's a good way to end it.
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Tarot?
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Tarot?
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Okay.
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Okay.
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We have a beautiful set up today by Caitlyn.
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By Caitlyn, for Caitlyn.
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On Caitlyn?
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Oh, I should mark.
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We have an orb visitor today.
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We have the light shining just right on the camera that we have a little green orb back
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there.
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Oh.
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We have beautiful incense today.
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We do.
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What flavor did we choose for today?
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This one's sales.
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Positive facts.
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Oh, that's a great thing to burn.
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Yeah.
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Especially right now.
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Yeah.
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I felt like that seemed right.
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Okay.
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What remind me her name, I forget.
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Arpana.
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I was like, I know, I know it.
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It's just not coming to me in this moment.
49:43
Arpana thinking about her possibly innocent man's Emanual.
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Mm hmm.
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I only knew that because like that's an easier name to remember.
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So, well, it was very fresh because that's the part of the case that we were talking
50:04
about at length.
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Okay.
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I just love the name, Arpana too.
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It's so pretty.
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It is pretty.
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I'm just going to keep saying it so that I remember it for always.
50:16
That's pretty good.
50:20
We have a nice apple and rosemary garnish that you did not just see fall apart.
50:26
No.
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No.
50:28
We are drinking a combination of the cranberry cheers, truly.
50:36
And vanna that, yeah, she's doing excellent work over there.
50:41
It's a spiced apple wine, which is brew.
50:45
So, it's a drink up, which is on the top, drink up, which is, I should have worn that shirt
50:50
again.
50:51
You should have.
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Yeah.
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Your matches.
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Yeah.
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Well, and it's in the shot from me and Chris in the kitchen.
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Well, I have, I have a purpose for that photo.
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Oh, yeah.
51:05
That was pretty funny.
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Yeah.
51:08
Also, speaking of Ouija, I learned something I didn't really know before.
51:14
Tail me.
51:15
So, apparently, a Ouija board that's just a decoration and not meant for portal spirit
51:23
communication purposes won't accidentally communicate with the spirit for you.
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Well done.
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Good.
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Yeah.
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Which I kind of, I kind of suspected, but I don't know.
51:32
People were worried about their decorations and I have a lot of Ouija decorations.
51:37
This is literally the only thing that I own and I felt like, I thought about that today.
51:44
That's the only thing she owns.
51:46
Am I inviting, it's the only Ouija?
51:50
Am I inviting something to come home with me by wearing this?
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No.
51:57
Am I going out into the world?
51:58
I felt like no.
51:59
But if you're not intending to, then you're not.
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I never intend to.
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Let the record state clearly that I never intend to.
52:09
Okay, so we got the star in reverse and it's a cute little ghosty pouring out some jugs.
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Jugs.
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We like them jugs around here.
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Okay.
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Are you ready for the this?
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Yes.
52:25
Okay.
52:26
The words for the star are happiness, hope, light at the end of the tunnel and good fortune.
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Okay.
52:37
And so similar to the visual in our card imagery here, this lovely card often portrays a
52:45
nude female figure in or beside a pool of water.
52:49
She too is pouring from jugs.
52:52
So very, very on point with a ghosty.
52:56
In the writer wait Smith Deck, she pours the contents of one picture into a stream and
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the other onto the ground, showing the connection between the two feminine elements, water
53:07
and earth.
53:09
Stars shine in the background, sometimes in a circle or like, oh, or a halo-like formation
53:16
around her.
53:18
The naked woman represents truth and purity.
53:23
Did you see how that word just like almost wouldn't come out of my mouth?
53:27
Like you were burning from the inside.
53:29
From the inside out.
53:30
So pure.
53:31
The jugs contain the waters of life.
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Okay.
53:35
And that's all I'm going to read because I think on the description otherwise it differs
53:40
with this one.
53:41
So I'm going to, I'm going to continue one.
53:46
There's an extra excerpt.
53:47
Okay.
53:48
I'm going to read that first.
53:49
You always look at me with that eye.
53:52
Like you know something I don't.
53:53
I do.
53:54
Hope.
53:57
Which whispered from Pandora's Box only after all the other plagues and sorrows had escaped
54:03
is the best and last of all things.
54:07
I feel like that's very fitting for this.
54:10
Wow.
54:11
There was a lot of hurt on a lot of sides.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
54:17
Listen to this.
54:18
Reversed interpretation says trust life and its processes and yourself.
54:25
The reversed star can mean you're following your path in a private way instead of shining
54:31
your light into the outer world.
54:34
The blessings you receive may be spiritual rather than material.
54:39
Perhaps you feel devitalized, uninspired or low on self esteem at this time."
54:46
Aww.
54:47
"After you attune yourself to what your soul needs, you'll feel more energized and inharmony
54:54
with who you truly are.
54:56
In a reading about money, you may feel disappointed because a hoped for payment or payoff gets delayed.
55:03
Even though you're trying hard, your efforts don't bear much fruit.
55:07
The time may not be right yet.
55:10
Don't give up."
55:11
Do you know how long this...
55:14
The lawsuit?
55:15
Yes.
55:16
Thank you.
55:17
Yes.
55:18
I don't...
55:20
The details on the timeline of the lawsuit aren't in front of mine for me, so I'd have to check.
55:26
I just hope that that doesn't take as long.
55:29
You can imagine.
55:30
Yeah, just, you know, a casual 20 years.
55:37
If the reading is about your job, you may be hiding your light under a bushel.
55:42
You don't realize your true abilities and thus aren't getting ahead as quickly as you could.
55:51
The star reversed can also represent disillusionment, disenchantment, or lack of inspiration.
55:59
Oh, okay.
56:00
Yeah.
56:01
Oh, boy.
56:02
In a reading about love, this card can mean your expectations are unrealistic.
56:09
Your searching for perfection, which can never be attained, or it can indicate you aren't
56:15
seeing your partner or your relationship clearly.
56:18
Hmm, like maybe you actually didn't have one with Arpana and that really pissed you off.
56:25
Oh, I don't know.
56:27
I don't like it either, but here we are.
56:30
There's one more extra excerpts.
56:33
Okay.
56:34
I saved it for the aim.
56:37
One is the faith that leads to achievement.
56:41
Nothing can be done without hope and confidence.
56:46
Yeah.
56:48
I don't have a lot of confidence, but I do have some hope.
56:52
Some hope.
56:53
Yeah.
56:54
Yeah.
56:55
We have to do otherwise.
56:56
What the fuck is the point?
56:57
What is there?
56:58
Yeah.
56:59
Wow.
57:00
Well, I just, I was thinking heavy about Arpana, obviously, when I was shuffling and I
57:06
just feel like she is just a star, you know?
57:10
Cassie, did you notice on the altar, the incense burner I have is decorated in stars?
57:17
Yeah.
57:18
I put out these citrine stars.
57:22
That's right.
57:23
And I pointed out to you when we were at Curiosity's earlier, a really cool, kind of like
57:31
a rot iron-looking star.
57:35
There's been everywhere.
57:36
Everywhere.
57:37
That's really interesting.
57:39
She was with us.
57:40
Maybe she knew we were going to talk about her today.
57:42
You want to hear something even wilder?
57:44
Maybe.
57:46
I watched the rest of practical magic last night.
57:50
Chris had never seen it.
57:53
And wait.
57:54
What?
57:55
I know.
57:56
I know.
57:57
We're not getting married unless you watch this.
57:58
So good.
57:59
Buckle up.
58:00
Yeah.
58:01
Yeah.
58:02
I think if you didn't see it as a child, it probably doesn't hold the same charm.
58:08
So, but he's a lovely man.
58:10
So he watched it.
58:11
Good play.
58:12
Good play.
58:13
Good play.
58:14
Yeah.
58:15
Buckle.
58:16
Do you remember what she says when she does her spell as a little girl, all of the different
58:24
requirements for the man that she would fall in love with?
58:28
The star is his favorite shape.
58:30
Uh-huh.
58:31
And then we'll see what we can do.
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Yeah.
58:34
We'll see what we can do.
58:35
We'll see what we can do.
58:36
We'll see what we can do.
58:37
We'll see what we can do.
58:38
We'll see what we can do.
58:39
We'll see what we can do.
58:40
We'll see what we can do.
58:41
We'll see what we can do.
58:42
We'll see what we can do.
58:43
We'll see what we can do.
58:44
We'll see what we can do.
58:45
We'll see what we can do.
58:46
We'll see what we can do.
58:47
We'll see what we can do.
58:48
We'll see what we can do.
58:49
We'll see what we can do.
58:50
We'll see what we can do.
58:51
We'll see what we can do.
58:52
We'll see what we can do.
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We'll see what we can do.
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If you listen to the show, you'll get it.
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Yeah.
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You will totally understand.
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Tell everyone in anyone you come into contact with about us unless they're like a bad person.
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Yeah.
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Then maybe don't.
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We don't necessarily need listeners that badly, I guess.
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Because they probably wouldn't leave us a five star review like you would on any platform.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I mean, that's really solid reasoning, I feel.
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If you have any true crime paranormal or whichy stories to submit for our listener appreciation episodes,
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also known as creepy people chronicles, please email us at pnwhauntsandhomicides@gmail.com
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or you can use our handy dandy Google contact link in the episode description.
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Or if you want to go to our website, there's ways to do all of the things from there as well.
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You're always welcome to remain anonymous if you choose to send in a story and they don't even have to be from the Pacific Northwest.
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Yeah.
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It's a good excuse to take a little vacation.
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Yeah.
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We're just touring around the world, you know?
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Yeah.
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As opposed to what is typically a very dark and dreary staycation.
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Yeah.
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We make a lot of fun, fun stuff.
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Yeah, we do.
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You can find our website pnwhauntsandhomicides.com and link tree in the description of this episode to check out all of this super creepy fun we have to offer.
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All of it, man.
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Yeah.
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Have a creepy ass Halloween.
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Halloween.
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That will still see you next Tuesday.
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We're not going to change into different people, especially mermaids because I don't like the water that much.
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I love the water.
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Oh, you can become a mermaid.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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You can.
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Well, I especially won't be because I'm a dead mermaid and I don't want to be that for sure.
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Yeah.
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In keeping with our distinct and very oftentimes differing personalities, she's a dead mermaid.
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And I'm like, yay, pretty mermaid.
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It's going to be such a funny picture we're about to take.
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I have some mermaid purse.
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Okay, mom.
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I'm not out.
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Bye.
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Bye.
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Happy Halloween.
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Happy Halloween.
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Me, me.
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[Music]
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I am a dead mermaid.
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[Laughs]
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[Laughs]
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[Laughs]
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[Laughs]
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