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- 0:00It's welcome everybody. Welcome to. This week's edition is Storrealda Show episode number
- 0:22seven and forty two for May two, twenty twenty four. This is your
- 0:26WWE Backlash, Preview and Predictions edition of s R Team You. I am
- 0:34one after the show, I am Jeff Peck joined every single week from my
- 0:38host on only doctor Trey Franklin, Doctor Trey, welcome back, my friend.
- 0:42Well, hey, you said joining you every week, joining you ninety
- 0:45eight percent of the weeks. I guess so. Yeah, my apologies.
- 0:49Everybody had had a personal situation that came up that I had attend to sucks
- 0:54because I got I didn't get the cover of the re debut of Jack Perry.
- 0:59I'm I am heartbroken by this. I know, big big fan of
- 1:03Jack Perry. Doctor. Like some would say scared of Jack Perry. I
- 1:08think Jack Perry's right there with Apollo Cruise for me. You interesting, Yeah,
- 1:15it's it's it's it's his squeeze, his main squeeze is Yeah. I
- 1:19mean, but honestly, like I hated missing the show. It drives me
- 1:23nuts, especially coming back from my trip from Atlanta, UH, where I
- 1:27got to go to a Brave's game, Jeff, I got to go to
- 1:30I got to add a ballpark to my my resume of ballparks two be into
- 1:34although it was against the Florida Marlin, so I don't know if that really
- 1:38counts as in Miami, Miami, Marland. No, they're Florida. You're
- 1:42dating, You're dating yourself. Now, big news this week for doctor Trey
- 1:46told me before the air, Doc Tray, you have a huge announcement here
- 1:49my friend. Uh so, yeah, I was on Jeff off air that
- 1:53I've actually been like cigarette free for five days now. I actually know what
- 1:57they actually it's been a week. It's actually been seven last Thursday. This
- 2:01is huge. Yeah. I mean, Jeff's known me for over a decade
- 2:05and I've smoked the entire time I've been smoking since. I didn't start smoking
- 2:07Jeff until I was of legal age, so I wasn't one of those kids
- 2:10that you know, stuck a cigarette when they were teenager. I literally still
- 2:15remember the exact day I started smoking. I was like I was right after
- 2:20high school. I was eighteen, got into a fight with my then girlfriend
- 2:23and looked at some friends like somebody give me a cigarette, and they're like,
- 2:25you don't smoke. I'm like, I do. Now give me a
- 2:28cigarette, and I have smoked. Now it was thirty thirty, almost thirty
- 2:31years I smoked. That That is a expensive habit, is it not.
- 2:38Uh, it really wasn't that bad for me because I was never one of
- 2:40those like brand specific cigarette guys, like I wouldn't go for like the cheap
- 2:46stuff that basically is like you know, road gravel wrapped in paper because fair
- 2:53whatever the cheapest name brand was at the time. So now Obama, like
- 2:55you can still get a pack of cigrets for like four bucks. Wow,
- 2:59okay, not like New York and New Jersey Like that was actually I knew
- 3:01people that that was one of their side hustles. They would buy cartons of
- 3:07cigarettes in Alabama or South Carolina and then transported up to New Jersey or New
- 3:13York and sell it because I mean last time I was in New Jersey,
- 3:15I think it was like twelve bucks thirteen bucks for a pack of cigarettes,
- 3:20and it's expensive up here. Yeah, so I mean you're basically quadrupling your
- 3:23money. So you could buy a cart and for like forty bucks and go
- 3:27to Jersey and sell it for four hundred, So you know it was crazy,
- 3:31but uh yeah, it's some other I still have a vaping thing a
- 3:36little bit, but had my first ever had a cigarette on the drive home
- 3:39from Atlanta Wednesday night. I'm like, oh my god, this just tastes
- 3:44horrible and I threw it out. Haven't had one since. So it's it's
- 3:47it's different like I had that. I have that moment where I'm like,
- 3:53I'll look for one. I'm like, oh, yeah, I don't do
- 3:53that anymore. Now. This this maybe regionally, but I know, like
- 3:59when when we were growing up, like smoking was definitely a thing that kids
- 4:03did, and like you would see ads for it in magazines, on television.
- 4:10Hell, I mean, NASCAR had a series called the Winston Cup.
- 4:12And then basically the federal government has done everything possible to mitigate smoking. Like
- 4:20you know, when I would go to restaurants, it was smoking non smoking.
- 4:24Now you can't even do that at all, which is like the most
- 4:26when you talk we talk about it, like a couple of times a year.
- 4:28I always feel like people my age we talk about it, it's like
- 4:30that's the most insane thing of all time that we thought, like, no,
- 4:35I'm gonna sit in non smoking and like you would be okay, it
- 4:40was just the invisible wall. It was just smoking. And like I remember
- 4:45going to like Burger King or McDonald's and there would be carton you know,
- 4:50things that you could get cigarettes out of, you know, like getting a
- 4:56soda out of a vending machine. I mean it was insane. But I
- 5:00feel like nowadays kids don't smoke cigarettes. They definitely vape, but I think
- 5:06the image coolness factor of cigarettes has kind of waned, and that could be
- 5:12like a North thing. I don't know what it's like down South, actor
- 5:15trap, but I feel like even when I go out to bars every once
- 5:17in a while now like like twice a year, at this point in my
- 5:20life, there's not as many people that go outside to go smoke cigarettes.
- 5:24Like, I feel like it's completely dwindled down from when you and I were
- 5:28younger. Yeah, it had. I mean it's still more prevalent in the
- 5:31South. I mean, god knows, when I was traveling it was,
- 5:34you know, I was. I can't say how upset i'd be if I
- 5:39got to a hotel and they're like, yeah, the entire hotel is non
- 5:41smoking. I'm like, this is because I gets to know, like marijuana
- 5:45smoke permeating doorways as I walk down the hall. But god forbid, I
- 5:47had a cigarette. You know, in the South, it's not it's still
- 5:53it's not cool anymore like East me when I was a kid, the vape
- 5:57thing is more the cool thing for people to do when they're younger. But
- 6:01I was telling you, like before we started the shows, like it was
- 6:03funny because I remember when I was younger and people would quit smoking and they'd
- 6:09smell this, and like, most smokers can't smell the Cigarett smoke on them.
- 6:12You're just numb to that scent. And I was like, I'll never
- 6:15be one of those guys that starts like gagging or making sounds or something like
- 6:19that when I see somebody else smoking. And Sammy and I and the wife
- 6:25had gone to a little restaurant yesterday and we were walking out there's a lady
- 6:30out front smoking, and that smoke hit me and I was like, oh,
- 6:32like and I didn't get sick to it. It was the tobacco smoke
- 6:36actually smelled good. But then there's like a second layer of smoke that hit
- 6:42me. I'm like, oh, yeah, that's that's not good. Okay,
- 6:44I'm fine with this Now we're good. I'm content. So I know
- 6:47you had commented to me a few weeks back that I sounded a little bit
- 6:51better. I wasn't coughing on air like I used to, and I'm like
- 6:56a lot of it's just because I had slowly dwindled down. I mean it
- 6:59was six months ago, Jeff, I was two packs a day, and
- 7:03now, like I said, I haven't had a cigarette in seven days.
- 7:06But I have gotten this weird cough the last two days. So if you
- 7:10do hear me cough, it's literally because of whatever pollen allergy thing going on
- 7:15is around me. Because I have been I have put all my extra resources
- 7:19into redoing my front yard, so I've been planting bushes and plants and planting
- 7:26grass and redoing everything. So I've been outside working in the yard NonStop,
- 7:30which once again, six months ago, I would have said to your nuts
- 7:31if I did that. So if you hear me cough, it's little just
- 7:35because of allergies and not because I have the crew or as my as my
- 7:41kids says tuberculosis. Yeah, I mean we're definitely due for a Jeff Pack
- 7:46allergy episode soon because Paulin is starting to come down here, So I'm happy
- 7:49for you, man, doctor Trey always obviously putting the health first, and
- 7:55you know, hopefully hopefully it stays this way, my friend, hopefully you
- 7:58don't get the urges to go hit a drag here for old time sake.
- 8:03If my stress level, my stress level has not decreased, and that was
- 8:05always my cop out. That's why I always said I didn't quit. It's
- 8:09like, oh, it's a stress relief. I haven't had a cigaret in
- 8:11seven days. My stress level has actually gone up okay, and haven't had
- 8:16the urge. So I'm like, I think I'm okay so far. Uh.
- 8:20My biggest thing is just the U I have to do something with my
- 8:24hands, Like I like my hands up so used always having a cigarette nearby
- 8:31that when I'm driving, I'll be like tapping the wheel or fidgeting around,
- 8:35just trying to keep my hands occupied more than anything else. So but yeah,
- 8:39I appreciate it, and I haven't been like you didn't think he posted
- 8:41on Facebook. This is just a random conversation. I don't want to be
- 8:46those people who's like, hey guys, seven day ay me. I'm not
- 8:48that guy. So just something that was brought up off air, and Jeff
- 8:52thought we should bring it to you guys. So two things. We were
- 8:54talking off air, and I was like, I think either your blood pressure
- 8:58goes up or down during this time. The more I think about it,
- 9:01I believe it's your cholesterol will go up a little bit with when you stop
- 9:05smoking cigarettes. And then the second thing, in regards to your hands,
- 9:09I would just start grabbing like your chest, like to start like grabbing your
- 9:13chest and just see and to see what people's reactions are. Oh, that
- 9:16was better when I was bigger, you know, like when you first met
- 9:18me and I was running like two fifty two sixty. I actually had a
- 9:22B cup, So hell yeah, I actually did that at a time.
- 9:24But now that I've lost all the weight too, I'm like, I don't
- 9:28really have a chest anymore to play with, So it's gonna be that I
- 9:33start picking my nose in front of it was just a freaking out. Wait,
- 9:35tell us what you think doctor Trey should do. Hit us up on
- 9:37Twitter at SRTU podcast and give us some suggestions on what he should do with
- 9:41his hands. Now getting to some wrestling discussion here, Doctor Dray. The
- 9:46twenty twenty four WE draft was held this past Friday on SmackDown for Night one,
- 9:52Monday on Raw for Night two. I guess the theme of this was
- 9:58and I wish the we did a better job creatively kind of pumping this up
- 10:03to quell the everybody's like confusion. And then theme overall was that a lot
- 10:13of people didn't move, which is funny because when I did the solo show
- 10:18last week, I sat here and I previewed the w draft and I said,
- 10:22I was like, I gotta be honest, I don't want many wrestlers
- 10:28to move at all. Like I felt like the way that the rosters were
- 10:31for Raw and SmackDown were pretty good, and you know, you move a
- 10:37little bit of here, you move a little bit of there to try to
- 10:39make it better. But I did not want these major drastic changes like we've
- 10:43seen in the past, where like Biancle bel Air has gone from Raw to
- 10:45SmackDown or seth Ron's gone from SmackDown to Raw. He always seemed to be
- 10:48one of those guys that went from Raw to SmackDown, SmackDown to Raw instead.
- 10:52I think the theme of this draft for me, Doctor Trey was the
- 10:56lack of movement and the wegms and they us that a little bit on commentary
- 11:01keeping their rosters intact. I felt like that should have been the theme.
- 11:03They should have had a segment heading into this we draft, like a week
- 11:07or two before, where all this and Adam Pierce are saying to one another
- 11:13that they're going to do the best they can and keep the rosters that they
- 11:16are because they like the roster so much, and they're going to be more
- 11:18on the defense of rather than trying to steal wrestler A or wrestler B from
- 11:24the opposing general manager's roster. They see it more fit to protect Drew McIntyre
- 11:31on Raw or Jay Usso on Raw, Bianca Belle Aaron SmackDown. I felt
- 11:37like that should have been the theme. That was my major takeaway, Doctor
- 11:39Trey was the lack of traction from the w draft, and I wish that
- 11:43they kind of pumped that up a little bit more creatively heading into it.
- 11:46Yeah, see a couple things for me. At For one, I was
- 11:48really glad the USA Network and Fox were not the one remember that year.
- 11:52That's like, Oh, USA Network's drafting for Raw and Fox is drafting for
- 11:56SmackDown. I'm like that would be literally like take a guy out crowd to
- 12:00draft, you know, for your green Bay package. That was when they
- 12:01unfortunately got rid of the general managers. Yeah, so I do like that
- 12:05went back. One thing I wish they would add is, you know,
- 12:09you and I are NFL fans. We we read mock drafts, We read
- 12:15combine reports and things like that. If you're going to bring some people up
- 12:18from NXT, which I think that was kind of a foregone collusion, why
- 12:22not have a combine, you know, and have these guys show off their
- 12:26physical skills. So that would also relay to people how good these guys are.
- 12:31So when they when a Keana James gets drafted, most of your audience
- 12:37isn't going, wait, who who is that again? Uh? You know,
- 12:41so like that that's another way to hype up your prospects. But I
- 12:43was moderately happy that the rosters didn't change a whole bunch, you know,
- 12:48But I like stability. But the way they and this year also by protecting
- 12:54the champions and not letting the champions get drafted, I like that as well.
- 12:58Agreed just a couple of things like if you want to make it more
- 13:01like an NFL or an NBA draft, hey throw a combine in there,
- 13:05Throw a scouting report in there, throw some things in there. If you
- 13:09are so convinced that most of your audience doesn't watch NXT, hey throw some
- 13:13scouting in there on those NXT guys and be like, hey, here's bron
- 13:16breaker man. He runs a four four forty and he's bench presents this and
- 13:20you know, you see how athletic he is, or stuff like that,
- 13:22or just some kind of thing to kind of feed because honestly, I had
- 13:26forgotten about Keanu James. And when you got drafted to row the first time,
- 13:30I'm like, it makes no sense, Like I I like this year.
- 13:33One thing I did like was the whole Punk McIntyre. Why it was
- 13:37Punk drafted higher than mcintie. I did like that because there were years that,
- 13:41you know, you'd have a guy get drafted like in the third round,
- 13:45and you're like, he's the bottom of the roster, why is he
- 13:48getting picked so high? Like this year that I felt like they tried to
- 13:50put a little more emphasis on that. So so just hold hold the thoughts
- 13:56about the NX stuff and the notable round selections. I want to get to
- 13:58that. So there were there were brand changes over under Doctor Trey twenty brand
- 14:07changes that you can remember from the WE draft. I think this year is
- 14:13under. It was over really twenty three brand changes now was a lot about
- 14:22the non televised brand changes. There were some of those supplemental picks that they
- 14:26ended up putting on w dot com, which I thought was silly because I
- 14:30felt like they do raw talk and talking smack, which they've They've done that
- 14:33in the past, so I thought that was a little bit strange. They
- 14:35should have maybe aired like a YouTube show afterwards or something that had the supplemental
- 14:41picks rather than just the draft continues over on our YouTube channel. Yeah,
- 14:46and they've done that before. They they've they've done that, which is which
- 14:50was strange. So I'm going to run Do you want me to run through
- 14:52these at all? These brand changes? Sure, because it's a good refresher
- 14:58course. So there's Carmelo Hayes from NXC to SmackDown, bron Breaker from SmackDown
- 15:03to Raw, which I thought was silly. It was like two months ago.
- 15:05They have written a huge debate of signing him, Naia Jacks from Raw
- 15:09to SmackDown, Seamus from SmackDown to Raw, Andrade from Raw to SmackDown.
- 15:13Keana James from Annixy to Raw, Alba Fire and Eila Dawn from SmackDown to
- 15:18Raw. Baron Corbin from NXC to SmackDown, Damage Control from SmackDown to Raw,
- 15:24Lwo from SmackDown to Raw, Shinskate from Raw to SmackDown, Elie Draggonoff
- 15:28from nix to Raw, Chelsea Green and Piper Niven from Raw to SmackDown,
- 15:33Lyra Valkyria from Nixy to Raw, Candice Lorraine Indy Hartwell from Raw to SmackDown,
- 15:39Final Testament from SmackDown to Raw, DIY from Raw to SmackDown, Blair
- 15:43Davenport from NXC to SmackDown, Apollo Cruise from RAWD to SmackDown, Die Jack
- 15:48from Annixy to Raw, Giovanni Vinci from RAWD to SmackDown, Newcatch Republic from
- 15:54SmackDown Raw, and finally Tigan Knocks from Raw to SmackDown. So twenty three
- 16:00brand changes took place during the WE draft. Doctor Trey, Yeah, and
- 16:03I think like the last the last probably head of those almost probably fifteen of
- 16:08those were ones that were non televised, So it's kind of all that's why
- 16:12you look at the over under You're like, it feels like there wasn't a
- 16:15lot of brand changes, but then when you look at the numbers, you're
- 16:18like, oh, yeah, they shuffled the mid cart deck, they shuffle
- 16:22some stuff around the bottom of the car. You'll try to give the guys
- 16:23some opportunity, but it's just like none of the real I mean, what
- 16:26shins k Maybe the biggest name to change brands out of this, I think
- 16:30Damage Control from SmackDown to Raw. Yeah, but it's nuts. I don't
- 16:34know, and I like them. We all knew it was gonna happen.
- 16:37But I liked the Carmelo Hayes jump from nxc's SmackDown because they made him a
- 16:41big star on night one. Being in learning with Cody, I thought that
- 16:44was an old school w draft tactic where you've seen in the past, like
- 16:48Shelton Benjamin gets drafted over to Raw and then he wrestles Triple H that first
- 16:53night and defeats him and they make a new star. Like I thought that
- 16:56they made Carmelo a star in that moment. If you're asking the casual fans,
- 17:02there's still not a lot of like not saying not a lot of people,
- 17:04but people have heard of Carmelo, But I think that was a great
- 17:07way to showcase Carmelo what he can do, because that dude's sold his ass
- 17:11off in that magic Cody. Good for him. But yeah, like I
- 17:15mean, you know the Drew back in Tires, the you know, the
- 17:18like the Bloodline games. Hold those hold hold that thought, hold that thought.
- 17:22I want to get to that notable round selections in just a second.
- 17:26NXT call ups, So there were seven of them. We discussed them.
- 17:29Carmelo, Hayes, Keana, James, Baron, Corbyn, Ili Dragonoff,
- 17:33Lyra, Valkyrier, Blair Davenport, die Jack. I had predicted on last
- 17:37week's show that I thought Blair Davenport was going to get the call up because
- 17:41of the way that she was booked. Did not predict any of the others.
- 17:47Which one of those NXT call ups was like a pleasant surprise for you
- 17:51and the most that you're most happy for die Jack like that for me.
- 17:55I love Donna or I love die Jack. Just a good dude. He
- 17:59is gone fell. I mean, you go back to those that feud he
- 18:03had with you know, Keith Lee and NXT. That was some great stuff
- 18:07that got brought up in retribution had to go to the horrible name of key
- 18:11Bone as like T bar, which I don't know what a T bar is.
- 18:18Yeah, he says this is a horrible name and Agammick and then he
- 18:21finally gets a chance to go back to see reinvent himself come back. We
- 18:25like the character. He's has some great matches in NXT, which his ind
- 18:29and ring work was never in question, but now it kind of feels like,
- 18:30look, it might take him a little bit to get going, but
- 18:34he's a monster with do that's gonna put great matches. So he's one of
- 18:37those guys that you can put into a good mid card feud with a Sammy
- 18:41Zay or somebody and you're going like, damn, this guy's fantastic. Where's
- 18:45he been? So I was really really happy for that biggest shock that was
- 18:48not called up from NXC Roxane Perez like, and they did this whole thing
- 18:52where she announced that she was gonna be eligible for the draft. So I
- 18:57don't know, if you know, they need to keep her in the brand
- 19:02for a little bit, a little bit longer. I obviously don't think it's
- 19:04like skill wise, it's more character wise. They need her there because she
- 19:07really is turning a corner with a seal character, and I feel like if
- 19:11she did leave NXT, it's potential that she could get lost in the shuffle
- 19:15given the new character change with her. But it's like, then, you
- 19:18don't do that thing where the women's champion is announcing it, and then they
- 19:22do address it because Ava tells her that she should have known that the champions
- 19:27were protected despite both her and Ilia and I know he's no longer the NXC
- 19:33champion announcing that they would be eligible for the draft, which was then okay,
- 19:37well then somebody should have said, listen, that's great that you're doing
- 19:40that, but you're not because you're a champion. So I thought that was
- 19:44I thought that was strange. But it appears to me again it's very hard
- 19:48to poke holes creatively in WE lately, but I did feel like there were
- 19:52some holes with this WE draft, and it just kind of seems like they
- 19:56were trying to figure out what the rules should be. This did come up
- 20:00on them to hold the WE draft, and they developed the rules in like
- 20:03the final week and may have creatively like botched a couple of things, like
- 20:07the Ili h the Roxanne Perez announcements, even though Elia got drafted, and
- 20:14then, like I said before, the the GM should have been pumping up
- 20:18like, hey, we want to maintain our rosters, not you know,
- 20:22steal from one another type stuff. But I thought Roxanne Perez was the biggest
- 20:25surprise for not being called up from NXC doctor Trump, And I feel like
- 20:29the way they hedged it was they had a plan for it, and then
- 20:32kind of last minutes that maybe because you remember, she's still only I think
- 20:36twenty one years old, twenty two maybe at the most, Like I mean,
- 20:38she was nineteen when she debuted in the NXC, so you know,
- 20:42maybe things were like, hey, maybe she needs a little bit more time
- 20:45here. Hey maybe we could work on this, or heck, we need
- 20:48we need an anchor for this division because we just had you know, Lyra
- 20:53and Kana and Blair go up. We still need somebody to kind of anchor
- 20:57this division. And Bill p well, because just because she didn't get called
- 21:02in, that doesn't mean she can't get moved up in three or four months.
- 21:03Let her let her build somebody else house. So I think they just
- 21:07course corrected and then had to figure out, hey, how do we make
- 21:10this change and make it make sense and they use the whole to me.
- 21:14That's then as you know you're talking about like make the gms try to protect
- 21:19their people. That should have been an AVA thing. We're able when it
- 21:22was my mistake, I went to Bat, I don't want you lead,
- 21:25so I made sure you were protected. Yeah. Yeah, I feel like
- 21:27they should definitely tie it up there. Yeah, that's they might. I
- 21:32say, it's probably those things where like probably all the way up until Thursday,
- 21:36they had planned on moving her, and then Thursday night they were like,
- 21:38no, let's let's leave her an next for a little longer. Let's
- 21:41let her, let's let help her, Let's let her help build up a
- 21:42couple more people before we move her up. I do think that coming out
- 21:47of this what I learned under this new regime of Triple H, I do
- 21:51feel like the wa draft concept needs to be tankered with a little bit.
- 21:55I think the first thing that I would immediately change, and I toyed with
- 21:59the idea preparing for the show here, that it should just be strictly NXT
- 22:03based. It should be like just NXC call ups coming to the main roster.
- 22:07Because I got to say, my favorite thing the entire two nights of
- 22:11the draft was when someone was called up from NXT, seeing them all at
- 22:17the performance center, seeing the fans in the stand and seeing like the genuine
- 22:19reaction from the wrestlers themselves who had no idea and the roster who had no
- 22:25idea. Just to see that camaraderie and happiness from the other wrestlers breaking kfabe
- 22:30to celebrate with Keana, James, Lyra, Valkyria, Blair Davenport, whomever
- 22:36that was getting the call up was really genuine and cool and a really fun,
- 22:41natural, organic moment. I was like, they got to do more
- 22:45of this, and it's like, if the concept is is to keep the
- 22:48roster, then maybe the concept needs to change a little bit where instead of
- 22:53two nights, it's just one night and it's just solely focused on NXT.
- 22:59Because I thought those genuine, sincere, organic reactions made the draft. Made
- 23:04the draft. Those were the best moments of them all. Those were my
- 23:07favorite moments, was those genuine reactions. Doctor Trey, Yeah, that goes
- 23:11back. They did that a couple of years ago as well. I can't
- 23:15remember who it was that was getting called up. I remember like seeing that
- 23:18emotion. It was Alexa Bless. I remember one. Yeah, it was
- 23:21like, oh wow, that's really really cool to me. How I would
- 23:25fix it is all of your stars are brand exclusive. The night o the
- 23:30draft, the gms can trade players, so you can have if you want
- 23:34to switch brand, Hey we're going to trade Shinske and d I Y to
- 23:41smack down for this person and you know this other and other tag team or
- 23:47whatever. And then that's how the trades happened. That's how you can make
- 23:51people move from brand to brand. And then you have, you know,
- 23:55eight draft picks and you they're all NXT exclusive, and hell you might be
- 23:59like, hey we trade as Shin's Kate to SmackDown for their fourth round selection,
- 24:03you know, just like the NFL draft. So that way to play.
- 24:07The wrestlers can still move by gms trading them. Because this whole concept,
- 24:14I've never liked how they slot people and hey, we're gonna because like
- 24:18you said, this year is about protecting you, keeping your roster safe.
- 24:22Years past, it's been like we're gonna try and snipe this guy. Uh.
- 24:26It just it felt it never felt like an actual draft. I agree,
- 24:30So let's make it be like, hey, you know the NBA draft
- 24:33that's when players get traded and moved around, and then we're just going to
- 24:38draft from an XT and then that way you can do those combined numbers.
- 24:44You can make it look like player profiles and things like that and build up
- 24:48interest in some of the people that you may think your audience needs to know
- 24:52about before they make that debut. I agree because the concept of a draft,
- 24:57as we all know as sports fans, right you're like, it's not
- 25:00like with the MLBA Draft, the Cubs can steal Aaron Judge from the Yankees
- 25:06and the Yankees can steal Show the Umina from the Chicago Cubs. Like that's
- 25:10not happening. It's it's people who are looking to get signed. So I
- 25:14think it should definitely be a little bit more NXD base. It's funny that
- 25:17you keep talking about this combine idea, which I love, because they're doing
- 25:21the concept to have the female wrestlers qualify for a tournament for the women's North
- 25:27American Championship in NXT, So it's like, that's kind of funny that they're
- 25:32doing that concept. But I think it should be more NXD base because those
- 25:34reactions are very genuine. Do what you're saying make it more of the trades
- 25:41for the rosters that are currently there, and that can make it a lot
- 25:42more fun. Like I think that, and they you call it like a
- 25:47draft and like a trading deadline, right like they have that in sports.
- 25:51Or you can do like in college and called the transfer portal and guys jump
- 25:55and jump into the portal and you can literally be like I like that idea.
- 25:59You can learn say hey, you know, take twenty guys and say
- 26:03hey, shins k nakamuraz into the transfer portal and then as those guys compete
- 26:07to keep it if you want to make it, if you still want to
- 26:08make it a two night thing, there's ways of doing it to tie it
- 26:12into draft fanaticism. Because what they're doing right now, Jeff, for lack
- 26:17of a better thing, is a fancy draft. Yeah, and it's like
- 26:21it's great, but we need, you know, for people like you and
- 26:23I who do fancy draft, we need statistics, We need reasons why why
- 26:27are you drafting? Drew McIntyre number one, And dear God, we don't
- 26:30want to go into the aw wins and losses things because that will drave people
- 26:34nuds. But if you're gonna make it much more like the NFL Draft,
- 26:37which what I mean, going off the ratings and the attendance is what they're
- 26:41trying to do. Make us straight up draft, draft your prospects, trade
- 26:45some players around and do it like that. And to that point, notable
- 26:49round selections, and we always bitch and complain about this because it truly does
- 26:52not make any sense. Yeah, number one. So the first one I
- 26:56have is Bianca Belair going number one overall for some Jay Usa going number one
- 27:00overall for Raw on night one. The Bloodline were selected in round three on
- 27:04Night one. Aj Styles, who is set to face Cody Rhodes this Saturday
- 27:11at ww Backlash. Number one contender was selected in the fourth round on Night
- 27:15one. Imperium Gunther and Ludwig Kaiser went number one overall for Raw. Jade
- 27:21Cargill, who has never wrestled a singles match, went number one for SmackDown
- 27:25on Night two. Drew McIntyre, which they did play in the storyline,
- 27:29and Doctor Trey mentioned earlier in the show, was selected in round three on
- 27:32night two, and then the Judgment Day was selected in round four on night
- 27:36two. Hence, yet their their tagline is that they run Monday Night Raw.
- 27:41I mean the notable. The round selections have never made sense for the
- 27:45Dead Wee Draft Doctor Trey because they just don't correlate most of the time for
- 27:51how they are booking the show. Like again, aj Styles is your number
- 27:55one contender, but he goes round four on Night one like that makes no
- 27:59sense to me. Judgment Day going round Fournite two again, that makes no
- 28:02sense to me. That's why I just really think they need to come back
- 28:07a year from now when they do this again, transfer portal, trade deadline,
- 28:12just the WAE Draft for NXC talent. They got to revamp this process
- 28:17because I just think it's it's a little too flawed. From my sports sports
- 28:22fandom, mine wasn't the first. The first draft wasn't like Chris Jericho,
- 28:26and I think at the time he was he was in a few with Triple
- 28:27Agent. He was either the champion or was fighting. Was like a supplemental
- 28:32pick that wasn't shown on air. You're talking about the two thousand and two
- 28:36draft, the very first one. Yeah, I think it was like way
- 28:37back when he was he went like the twenty seventh, the twenty seventh pick,
- 28:41and it might have been the night he lost lost the title on Raw.
- 28:45That was so that draft I believe happened after Wrestlemany eighteen, so he
- 28:52would have dropped the title at that point. Yeah. So, but you
- 28:55may be right here. I'm going to quickly scroll while you're talking. So
- 28:57the two thousand and two the very stubby we draft. But there were I
- 29:02mean, there's been years that you and I were saying here going, how
- 29:03is like a like and I don't mean a knock Apollo cruise, I mean,
- 29:07but there's times Apollo has been like a fifth round draft pick and then
- 29:11you know a guy who's in the main event for like a Samy's saying,
- 29:14would be like a ninth round draft pick or Kevin Owens. I think Kevin
- 29:17Owens was like ninth or tenth round, like it was towards the end of
- 29:18the draft last year. You know what I'm like, how how are these
- 29:22guys who everybody knows are bigger stars, better merchandise movers getting drafted in rounds
- 29:29later than Apollo or you know, Dominic when he was still relatively new and
- 29:34things like that, Like it's the way the rounds were set up never made
- 29:41sense. And you know, it's like, okay, well, you know
- 29:44Bianca going first overall is great, but then, like you mentioned Jade Carter
- 29:47going first, it's like she's never been in a match. You're basically drafting
- 29:51off potential here, but you know you could have saved somebody else that you
- 29:57know has wrestled matches and had he's been champions. Like, It's just yeah,
- 30:02the concept is always flawed to be. Like, now, if they
- 30:07came out with like WW fantasy rankings like you and I look at before we
- 30:11draft for our SRTU football leagues, and these people are ranked higher, then
- 30:17that can also tie in his storylines, and then it makes sense as to
- 30:19why this person's drafted high and this other person that we don't think is a
- 30:23better wrestlers drafted lower. Really good memory, Doctor Trey so Jericho fought Triple
- 30:29h the night of the WWE draft. He lost, and then was selected
- 30:33onto the SmackDown brand because the Undisputed Champion could not change brands. He ended
- 30:38up going to SmackDown with Where did I just see it? It was like
- 30:44the thirteenth pick or something. Yeah, and it was like supplemental not seen
- 30:48on TV. You had to find out about it on SmackDown later on.
- 30:52Yeah, okay, so he went twenty fifth overall. It was a supplemental
- 30:56pick. He went after Stephen Richards who was selected to Raw to Jerry,
- 31:03Bradshaw and Billy Kidman were all selected after Jericho. But you know, it's
- 31:08like, oh crap, Jericho's available. Would he not be your first pick
- 31:12of the supplemental draft? Like I said, it was the main event the
- 31:15shows going out the air, but the very first pick of the supple metal
- 31:18draft should be the guy who is just twenty minutes earlier champion, and it
- 31:22was to Jerry or Bradshaw. Yeah, that could have been the old regime
- 31:27of WUE aka Vince McMahon fucking with Chris Jericho. So yeah, yeah,
- 31:33no, it upset Jericho so bad he put it in his book. Yeah
- 31:38wow, I've read all those books. I forget that now. Yeah.
- 31:41I mean, it's just the draft selections don't make sense. I would highly
- 31:45recommend that they reconsidered the concept. They'd make it more NXT focus, and
- 31:52that is when they allow it's like the two nights a year that they allow
- 31:55trades, transfer, portal whatever, you know, player around with a little
- 32:00bit with like the sports fandom in the world where Drew McIntyre, which we
- 32:05will talk about his new contract with WE, but he is signed to RAW
- 32:08for two years and he cannot be traded or he has a no trade clause
- 32:14like they have an MLB or what have you. Like, they can definitely
- 32:17make it better and I think what I learned from this draft is for the
- 32:22first time you know in this new regime that there's an opportunity to make it
- 32:25better, and I think they need to do a little bit more sports fandom.
- 32:29I think with the old regime it was always going to be this way
- 32:30and there was going to be no creativity. I think there is creativity that
- 32:35can be had with this current creative team in WWE to make it a lot
- 32:37better. So there you go. The twenty twenty fourt w WE draft is
- 32:43in the books. The big news here Doctor Trey. Despite going in round
- 32:49number three on Night two to Monday Night Raw. In real life, Drew
- 32:54McIntyre signed a massive deal with World rest Entertainment re signed with them. He
- 33:00will be back, reportedly for another three years for a significant amount of money.
- 33:05The news was broken by the Rock of All People, who posted a
- 33:07video of Drew McIntyre receiving a sword a gift from the Rock Board of Directors
- 33:15out to dinner with Nick Cohn. I love the move. I'm happy this
- 33:21has happened. I think Drew McIntyre, since he's been a little bit of
- 33:23a tweeter, which would be around about September time, has been maybe the
- 33:30most entertaining wrestler on Worldwist Entertainment television during that time frame. The character has
- 33:35been really good. You don't know if he's a heel, you don't know
- 33:37if he's a baby face. He comes down to the ring, he slaps
- 33:39hands, kisses babies, but gets on the microphone and rips the fans.
- 33:45He's fantastic. I mean, we have loved Drew McIntyre since he returned back
- 33:49to Dowe Wie and even before that when he was working the ND scene always
- 33:53had high opes from him. Despite the three and B stuff that Drew McIntyre
- 33:58career has really been covered this entire time. I'm a BESTRTU, but he
- 34:00is. He's been phenomenal. I'm very very happy for him. I love
- 34:05that he's saying with w W. Your thoughts on the signing for both W
- 34:07and True. McIntyre you know, the crazy thing is there. And I
- 34:12don't know if you've gone through this, but I've gone through this. When
- 34:14you know you're coming up on either at the end of your contractor you feel
- 34:17like, hey, maybe it's about time for me to change roles, you
- 34:22kind of go into like the zero f's given mode. And it's usually when
- 34:25you do your best work. You usually go screw it, I'm gonna go
- 34:30out here. I'm gonna do my thing. If it lines up, great,
- 34:32If not, I'm out the door anyway. Or there's other offers out
- 34:37there for me anyway, and you do your best work. And I feel
- 34:39like, since this contract's been lingering now for about six months, six eight
- 34:45months, Drew's done his best work in WW. I think the work he's
- 34:47done since September is even better than the work he was doing during the pandemic
- 34:52time, which means it's given his character way more depth. He seems like
- 34:59he is just having a ball and had doesn't give a crap, you know,
- 35:05And it's like that's usually when characters are their most refreshing. Is just
- 35:08like you feel like this is almost the real Drew McIntyre we're seeing on TV
- 35:14right now. Yeah, he has an edge and he's you know, he'll
- 35:17be mean to the crowd at times as well. But this kind of feels
- 35:21like the first time in what the fifteen year run of Drew McIntyre and WW
- 35:27that we're actually seeing Drew McIntyre the person and I'm here for and I'm really
- 35:30happy he resigned. He just never felt like a guy that would I mean,
- 35:35honestly, if he went to AW he would do fine. It just
- 35:37feels like that he would be just kind of meth after a while, or
- 35:44at least here, I feel like he's really tapped into something and he's shining
- 35:47really brightly right now, which you know, we talked about NFL, we
- 35:51talked about others right here. That was his contract year and he was an
- 35:53all pro leading into his contract being redone, so he got handsomely rewarded for
- 35:58it. So this blends into kind of what you just said their Doctor Trey
- 36:00about Drew McIntyre and AW what have you him signing with WWE. Wrestling Observer
- 36:06Newsletter had posted last week before the announcement was made that Drew McIntyre had resigned
- 36:10with w W. They had said those in w expect drum McIntyre's resigned with
- 36:15w SCENE is enough of a given he's being advertised on shows post contract expiration.
- 36:21The feeling was that while he had talked of taking off taking time off
- 36:24if not creatively fulfilled, that he is very much. He very much is
- 36:29now and is seen as one of the company's top full time wrestlers with the
- 36:31Rhodes and Rollins. This is the point I want to discuss now as we
- 36:36blend from onnceroy to another. They wrote, there is also the belief WWE
- 36:42talent is less likely now to opt for AW. I thought that was telling,
- 36:49but I also found it not surprising because the way wrestlers are handled in
- 36:57AEW when they first joined and it is pomp, its circumstance, it's fireworks,
- 37:02and then maybe four to eight to twelve weeks later, the fire,
- 37:07the heat, the excitement has completely fizzled off. And this is coming from
- 37:13a guy who's an AAW fan, But you cannot discredit that. Adam Copeland
- 37:17joins the company at Wrestle Dream with a surprise all EAT wrestling people are excited,
- 37:23and within four to eight weeks completely fizzled off. Now, granted he
- 37:28had a great match with Buddy Matthews on Dynamite on Wednesday night. I loved
- 37:31it. He's been very solid. But Adam Copeland, and he may disagree
- 37:36with me, it's his career and he knows much more about professional wrestling than
- 37:38I do, obviously, but as a fan, I don't believe Adam Copeland
- 37:44should be toying around in the mid card upper mid cards once he joins AAW.
- 37:50Mercedes Monette and I know she's injured, but she joins big business.
- 37:55They make a big show about it, and I feel like she's completely ice
- 38:00cold. And you mentioned earlier on in the show about AW and the ranking
- 38:04systems, the ranking systems was back, but now I completely feel like it's
- 38:07gone because Christian Cage was just randomly announced number one contender with Swarp Scott and
- 38:13Mercedes Monet who said she was going to face the winner of the TBS Championship
- 38:15match at Dynasty without ever wrestling a match, So she just leapfrogged everybody else
- 38:20in the ranking system. So I guess it's gone, And you know,
- 38:22I just feel like time and time again, j White is an example that
- 38:25has brought up of who's who's been hit or miss or ice cold and I
- 38:30love j Whye. I don't think he should be toying around with the trios.
- 38:34You know landscape as well. This is a surprise, but that it's
- 38:40in writing, but not a surprise. If you're a fan that watches the
- 38:44show, your thoughts here, Doctor Trey of W stars now less likely to
- 38:49opt for AAW and what is the reason behind that? Is it the creative
- 38:53and all elite wrestling with Tony Kahan or is it how well they're doing with
- 38:59the creative undert I think a big part of it is. So you look
- 39:04at the WW roster, most of the people that we see feature, most
- 39:09of them, not all, spent some time in NXT and under the Triple
- 39:16H regime. You already know how Triple H is going to treat you.
- 39:22You already have faith in what he's going to do. You already know his
- 39:25temperament. AW for a lot of the guys is an unknown and all you
- 39:34hear are stories, innuendos, things that people have said. You know,
- 39:39there's a few people from AAW have made their way over into WW. Not
- 39:44just the Cod's of the world or the Jade, but the Lexus Kings of
- 39:46the world. You kind of know what to expect if you make the move,
- 39:52and AW has a track record, like you and I have talked about
- 39:54the show, you go back to Brian Danielson starts off red hot, some
- 40:00great matches. Where's he at now? It's kind of like nobody has really
- 40:07gotten better than they were when they came in. So if I'm going to
- 40:12make that jump, it's gonna come down to do I want creative license and
- 40:16feel fulfilled or do I want ease and comfort? And it goes back to
- 40:22you know, the will Ospray conversation we had a few weeks ago about the
- 40:23comments with Triple H. There is a little bit of the grind and maximizing
- 40:30your potential versions where I AW, I do kind of feel like guys get
- 40:34comfortable there and a little bit not lack a days ago because the matches are
- 40:37still fantastic. But outside of the guys who are hungry for the top spot,
- 40:43that's war of strict One's the MJFS. Is anybody really pushing the creative
- 40:46envelope in AW right now? Like I don't. I don't see anything that's
- 40:50like breakthrough TV or must see TV. Do you know what I think is
- 40:55the best creative thing in AW right now, what's that Trump Bretta and Cacasidy.
- 41:00It feels real. I mean they've done a great job with that one.
- 41:06But like the Jericho Learning Tree, like it's like I'm starting to come
- 41:09around on that. It's it's but it took him turning kind of heel again
- 41:15for it to kind of work. You know. It's just that's that there's
- 41:20less in a sense, there's less creative stability in AW where I think there's
- 41:24more. You have more faith in the creative in WWE right now. And
- 41:29if I was a wrestler trying to, you know, do what do I
- 41:32want out of my career? It kind of depends. If I'm a younger
- 41:36guy, I'm probably gonna go to WE because they're gonna find something for me
- 41:39to do. Where AW, You're probably you might get lost in the show
- 41:43for a little while. If I'm an older wrestler and I know I'm nearing
- 41:45the you're nearing the end and I don't feel like I've accomplished or I feel
- 41:51like I've accomplished everything I could accomplish in WWE. Yeah, AW makes a
- 41:54ton of sense. You can kind of rest on your coast, on your
- 41:59accolades and get a good paycheck and after wrestler is hard. Yeah, no,
- 42:04I mean it's it's very funny how things have changed. And I think
- 42:07when we go back through the history of our show here, when like AW
- 42:10launched and we were banging the drum of like Triple H needs to come in,
- 42:15people are going to leave the company. It's a lighter schedule, more
- 42:17money, and you could be more creatively fulfilled. And it took them some
- 42:22time, and it eventually through other channels, got to Triple AH to running
- 42:25the show, and you're seeing that payoff extremely well. I mean, just
- 42:31create creatively. It seems like there's more creative freedom now in w than there
- 42:37wasn't AW, which is mind boggling. AW has really good, a really
- 42:42good in ring product. But I watched Dynamite the other night and I just
- 42:46thought I was like terribly bored for the most part. Like it you watched
- 42:51Raw for three hours, that doesn't feel like three hours. SmackDown for two
- 42:53hours is really good. NXY as its hits or misses still, but they're
- 42:58doing a good job. It's just AW is getting boring to me. They
- 43:04need a little bit of a creative shakeup. And I just thought it was
- 43:07it was interesting to see this play out like the way that it was.
- 43:13We're saying that w stars are now less likely to opt out, and there's
- 43:15some major names that are going to be available. I think Finn Balor confirmed
- 43:19he resigned, Drew McIntyre is now confirmed resigned. Rollins and Becky Lynch their
- 43:23contract's supposed to be coming up. I can't see them leaving. I think
- 43:28Kevin Owens contract maybe up where he may have signed an extension a couple of
- 43:32years ago. Yeah, it's just funny how the ties have changed. And
- 43:37I can't blame the wrestlers because it's playing out to me as if you were
- 43:42at home being like, yeah, I could understand why Star would want to
- 43:45go to AW, but now I totally understand why w Starr would not want
- 43:50to go to AAW. I just think there's a crowded roster and every time
- 43:55you see a big name join, there is a lot of and circumstance and
- 44:00excitement and then it kind of fizzles out. I think some people may say
- 44:05that Will Osprey could be dealing with that soon with the International Championship match,
- 44:08and even though if he wins creatively, he may fizzle out a little bit
- 44:13and he may be one of the hottest stars in the company. You know,
- 44:15this were of strickling stuff. They waited a little bit too long before
- 44:17they finally executed, even though I feel like they kind of booked themselves in
- 44:22a corner, so it's not necessarily their fault in that instance. Nonetheless,
- 44:27interesting, I don't have this down on the rundown here, doctor Trey,
- 44:30but I guess this is a good opportunity to talk about it. You had
- 44:34the big Dynamite angle where the Elite took out the new Elite took out Tony
- 44:37Kahn on Wednesday's Dynamite. They followed it up on Wednesdays this past Wednesdays Dynamite
- 44:44by taking out Kenny Omega, cutting the feed, running the intro. What
- 44:49was your thought on the follow up? And obviously we'd get an opportunity to
- 44:52talk to you on last week's show. What are your thoughts on the long
- 44:54term of this angle, because there are obviously people out there that think that
- 44:59this be the rejuvenation of the product, comparing it to the nWo from the
- 45:04aw standpoint, What did you think of everything so far? I don't hate
- 45:08it. I will say, you know, if you go back to when
- 45:13they played the video from you know, all from all out hated that.
- 45:16But one thing we said was if it can lead into something that's compelling,
- 45:22hey, that's great. The stuff with Jack Perry and Tony Kahan, like,
- 45:29for what it was, I thought, I mean, it was obviously
- 45:30to me, I think the worst sell of Like it's almost as bad as
- 45:35when Vince took the first stunner, but selling wise horrible. I did love
- 45:39that Tony Cohn wore the neck break through the NFL draft. I love that
- 45:44that was great. He sold it the entire time. The stuff with Kenny
- 45:49Omega you know this week I thought was really good. Is it nwoesque?
- 45:54It's in the ballpark. But the problem is is that anytime you try to
- 45:59do something similar that everyody's gonna shit on it and go, oh, you're
- 46:00just ripping off the nWo. Everything's a rip off nowadays. So I don't
- 46:06hate it. It is kind of reinvigorating the Bucks. I like the Bucks
- 46:10new characters. I think it's really funny and I love that they're just kind
- 46:14of leaning into what people like me were saying. Well, they're EVPs they're
- 46:17gonna get their way. They're leaning into it. I like that the stuff
- 46:22with Jack Perry. I like, I'm not a huge Jack Perry famb but
- 46:24I like that they're bleeding into it. Having Ocada in the group gives them
- 46:29some credibility because otherwise, without Okada, you'd have three guys that weigh one
- 46:32hundred and eighty pounds or less trying to run the company like that would kind
- 46:37of you know, realistically, I would kind of hate that. But it's
- 46:42very funny you just said that Dutch tray. Because I hate to say this
- 46:45because obviously all those guys could beat me up. And I say this all
- 46:47the time about Jack Perry, but I find nothing intimidating about Jack Perry.
- 46:52And I thought, now with what we're seeing that video of him being like
- 46:55owned by cmpunk, the all out backstage footage, does not make me think
- 47:00he's some sort of bad ass. No, but it makes me think they
- 47:04they you know, the way the character being, they're not. They're not
- 47:07being portrayed as badasses like Holland Nash was when they came in. Yeah,
- 47:10when Hallan Nash held off the entire w CW lockerom at one point by themselves.
- 47:15They were portrayed as bad asses. They're slimy, sleazy scumboutis and I
- 47:22think they're leaning into that really well. And having Okada in the group gives
- 47:27them a little bit of physical, you know, physical presence. I think
- 47:30they need one more big guy in the group. You throw a Keith Lee
- 47:35into that group and let him have his like crappy mustache and beard, Like
- 47:38I'm good with that. Like have them look like Uncle Philigin, like there's
- 47:42your physical presence in the group, or a ward Blow or somebody like that,
- 47:46if you could, you know, make that move somebody of that ilk
- 47:51to give that little physical presence, because I like, they're not trying to
- 47:54overpower people one on one. It is you know, slimy, sleazy,
- 48:00dirty tactics in that part. I dig because that fits their character and their
- 48:05size. Yeah, yeah, it's it's interesting. It's an interesting Uh.
- 48:10They're trying and they gotta get something to the yard. I just felt like
- 48:14I wish I saw a little bit more on Wednesday's Dynamite that kept further this
- 48:17along. Go Okay, this is pretty cool. We're in a real good
- 48:22direction. But I think it was kind of a baby step instead of a
- 48:24big step coming out of the Big Angle on Wednesday's Dynamite and then finally here
- 48:30before we get to backlash doctor Trey uh the report from Wrestling Observer newsletter,
- 48:35there's a chance of The Rock doing a match late this year, but the
- 48:38Cody Rhoads match was tentatively for Wrestmating forty one. Whether Roads is champion or
- 48:44not, is this the direction you want to see for The Rock, the
- 48:49Rock versus Cody Rhoads word for Cody Roads at Wrestlmating forty one, it feels
- 48:57like Roman's going baby face. To me, it depends on can somebody else
- 49:02get hot as a heel? You know, Like that's if you're like,
- 49:07hey, worst case scenario Cody and the Rock WrestleMania forty one. Hey,
- 49:10if that's the worst case scenario for your main event, it's not a bad
- 49:13worst case scenario. But we've seen it before with other wrestlers. They get
- 49:17hot, plans change to capitalize on that. I think if if we talked
- 49:24about a coup weeks ago, if you end up doing like Roman and the
- 49:29original blood Line against Rock and the New blood Line, that's a good angle
- 49:32to run. But right now once again with Roman being out and kind of
- 49:37reshuffling the deck, and now you have you know, Damian Priest is the
- 49:42top heel on raw Well, who's the top heel on SmackDown? Is it
- 49:45Solo? Is it aj or do you need another heel to get hot?
- 49:50And I thought Gunther would have been a great move to go to SmackDown because
- 49:54then Cody and Gunther on the same brand. But they didn't make that move.
- 49:58So it's gonna be interesting see who they positioned to be the long term
- 50:01rival for Cody, because right now, between now and next April, right
- 50:07now, it's the Rock and they haven't built up anybody else to take that
- 50:10next level. Yeah, it's I like the direction and it will be interesting
- 50:16how this all plays out, because I think it makes the most sense right
- 50:19now. But I was intrigued to see that they're gonna go Cody Rock for
- 50:22wrestlemaning forty one right now, no matter if he's champion or not, which
- 50:27is kind of peculiar, or the saying if he's champion or not. I
- 50:30made a case on last Week'spot Doctor Trey that I felt like Gunther should be
- 50:35moved to SmackDown feud with Cody, and I could see him winning the title
- 50:38at the Bash and Berlin show when he's a little bit more closer to home
- 50:43they're near Austria, but it seems like that is not the case that they're
- 50:47going to be heading towards. I feel like Cody versus Gunther would be a
- 50:52great WrestleMania match, but I guess maybe that still happens if he should win
- 50:55the Royal Rumble later this or early next year. Yeah, I mean,
- 51:00and you know, you could always I mean, there's a guy who's not
- 51:02in the company right now who was blacklisted for a little while that he's always
- 51:07known to pop up by the name of Brock Lesner. You can always revisit
- 51:09Cody and Brock again at that point. So it's just right now, they're
- 51:15trying to build up some new stars to fill the boys left by some guys
- 51:21who are out with injury or taking time off or something like that. And
- 51:23that was part of the issue with when you have a champion like Roman dominate
- 51:29for three years, is it's kind of hard to build death because we've seen
- 51:34Roman beat everybody. Well, now Cody's beat Roman, but everybody else around
- 51:39has been beaten by Roman. So who has the credibility to step up other
- 51:44than a gunther right now? And that's not the rather take. I mean,
- 51:47how many times do we see AJ lose to Roman and now we just
- 51:51puse on paper, go oh, well HEJKB Cody, Well, Cody beat
- 51:53Roman, Roman beat AJ. So where do you go from there? So
- 51:57they have a little bit of depth issue on the heel side on SmackDown right
- 52:00now? All right? Then, finally here, doctor Trey, let's preview
- 52:04and predicta wa backlash. It comes to us this Saturday from the LDLC Arena
- 52:07in Leone, France. It will be taking place one pm East ten am
- 52:13on the Pacific here in the United States, so it'll be an early show
- 52:16for anybody who wants to catch it on a May afternoon. I don't know
- 52:20whether it's been pretty damn awesome lately where I live. Maybe I'll catch it
- 52:23at night or maybe I'll catch it on Sunday. With that said, let's
- 52:27go through the card here, Doctor Trey. Randy warton Kevin Owens taking on
- 52:30the Bloodline and a tag team match. I have the Bloodline winning this one.
- 52:32I have Bloodline also, and I'm still trying to figure what MFT stands
- 52:36for. You know, people are saying my family tree, but it's like
- 52:39that that would be lame missl my favorite Tonguan. I like that one.
- 52:45Yeah, they gotta tell us. I mean it's gotta be MF right,
- 52:50m F and Tauma Yeah, MF and Tunga. This is my mother f
- 52:54and tauma. Yeah, I don't know. Strange. The Warriors defend the
- 52:59WA wins to Team championship against Bianca bell Aaron, Jade Cargill, Doctor Trey.
- 53:01Who do you liking this one? I'm taking Bianca and Jay because they
- 53:06were number one overall draft picks for their brands on respective nights, so you
- 53:09can't have number one picks losing to you know, round three, round four
- 53:13people. Yeah, I got Bianca and Jade winning this one as well.
- 53:16Bailey defends the WA Women's Championship in a triple threat match against Naomi and Tiffany
- 53:22Stratton. I am tempted to pick Tiffany Stratton here, dotch Trey. I
- 53:25think she is due to get a potential title run, but I could see
- 53:29her taking the l and then maybe becoming the winning the Bank winner in just
- 53:32a couple of months. So I have Bailey retaining. Yeah, I have
- 53:37Bailey Rotaye, but I'm like with you, I kind of picture Tiffy strad
- 53:39winning one of the bank and then Tiffy time as anytime she wants to catch.
- 53:43It makes a lot of sense. Damian Priest defends the World of aweight
- 53:45Championship against jay Uso dtor Tre. Who do you liking this one? Uh?
- 53:50Once again, like when you have brand new champions, it's hard to
- 53:52take somebody to beat the brand new champion as much as as much fun and
- 53:55energy as Jay Juso has, I'm still taking Dabian Priests to retain. I
- 53:59have Damienes as well for nearly the same exact reason, which that takes me
- 54:02to my next match. Cody Roads defending against aj Styles for the n disputed
- 54:06at W Championship. I cannot see Cody Roads dropping the title, so I'm
- 54:09gonna take Cody to retain. I'm taking Cody as well, with maybe maybe
- 54:14a little bit of well you, Cody bay Pace. You can't really have
- 54:16outside interfairs, but I could still see La Night getting into the picture as
- 54:20well. You might get a triple threat batch here next month for the next
- 54:22paper the next pl So there you go, wa Backlash preview and predictions.
- 54:28We will recap and interview at all on next week's edition pod. With that
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