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Scandals of Sandavol, James Kennedy, Teddi and Tamra · Reality with The King

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Reality the King. It's me Carlos King, the
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Speaker 1: King of Reality TV and one of the most sought
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Speaker 1: after executive producers in reality television with over ten years
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Speaker 1: a production experience. Twice a week from Reality with the King,
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Speaker 1: we'll sit down with my friends across the entertainment industry,
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Speaker 1: recap our favorite reality shows and revisit unforgettable moments that
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Speaker 1: we are still talking and tweeting about.
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Speaker 2: Hey, rain drops.
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Speaker 1: On today's episode Reality with the King, I am joined
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Speaker 1: by very special guests.
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Speaker 2: He's a friend of mine.
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Speaker 1: I've been on his hugely successful podcast, and every time
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Speaker 1: we're together we have a good time, just like we
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Speaker 1: did at you know, just the party of the year,
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Speaker 1: which is Kathy Hillton's holiday party. So give it up
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Speaker 1: to Ryot Belly from the So Good Is Bad podcast?
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Speaker 3: What is Uprates?
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Speaker 2: What is up? King?
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Speaker 3: I just listen you. I've gotta take I gotta take
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Speaker 3: style tips from you. This man was all around Kathy
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Speaker 3: Elton's party looking looking like a million bucks. I wasn't
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Speaker 3: even paying attention to James Kennedy because I was trying
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Speaker 3: to talk to Carlos And then I see the rest
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Speaker 3: of the week you had like so many holiday part
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Speaker 3: you had like a red suit number on that. I
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Speaker 3: was like, damn, dude, leave a little for the rest
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Speaker 3: of us.
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Speaker 1: Carlos Scott Well Liz said, is not every day that
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Speaker 1: I'm able to like, not record a podcast, not produce
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Speaker 1: this show, not create shows, and not that stuff to
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Speaker 1: really enjoy the fruits of my labor. So I was
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Speaker 1: in Los Angeles this past week and I had such
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Speaker 1: a great time.
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Speaker 2: How fun was the Kathy Hilton party? Though?
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Speaker 3: It was like rarefied air. I really thought I was dreaming.
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Speaker 3: I thought this was this had to be AI watching
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Speaker 3: Kathy sing with Lisa Barlow last. I mean, yeah, never
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Speaker 3: in my wildest dreams did I think. I mean, all
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Speaker 3: the Salt Lake City housewives were there. I was watching
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Speaker 3: them in the wild and it was just it was incredible.
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Speaker 1: It was incredible, No, it was it was. It was
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Speaker 1: really really fun. I got a chance to meet a
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Speaker 1: lot of the Salt Lake City girls who are super nice,
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Speaker 1: and I had a great time. So then two days
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Speaker 1: later I was also at a friend named Justin Sylvester.
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Speaker 1: He's an amazing correspondent journalist on E News. He does
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Speaker 1: Today's Show as well. He had a charitable holiday party
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Speaker 1: that was hosted.
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Speaker 2: By Erica Jane. Duranda Betley was there and was there, but.
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Speaker 1: I miss Cole Rich just as my favorite housewife. But
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Speaker 1: I will say this, riot, Erica Jane is a rain drop.
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Speaker 1: She said, thank you so much for having my back
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Speaker 1: yar podcast.
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Speaker 2: I'm like, you listen to Reality with the King Erica.
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Speaker 3: Well, she would not be thanking me for my podcast,
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Speaker 3: but I'm so, I mean, listen, listen. I think Erica
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Speaker 3: Jane actually is in a really sweet spot this year
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Speaker 3: on Beverly Hills, and like she has actually become more
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Speaker 3: empathetic as being a friend to Dureid and she all
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Speaker 3: of a sudden is a shoulder to lean on. It's
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Speaker 3: shoulder to cry on with.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, I love her, I love her. I
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Speaker 2: love you. Erica Jane, thank you so much for your compliments.
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Speaker 1: But honey, we have to get into what happened with
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Speaker 1: James Kennedy. You and I both ran into him at
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Speaker 1: the Kathy Hilton party.
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Speaker 2: So there's lots of discuss there.
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Speaker 1: But let me explain to the rain drops exactly what happened.
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Speaker 1: So the night of Kathy Hilton's holiday party, James Kennedy
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Speaker 1: was arrested for domestic violence, and according to a burd
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Speaker 1: Bank Police daily arrest log, because we are journalist, Ryan,
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Speaker 1: so we need to report nothing but the facts, okay.
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Speaker 1: He an officer said that he made contact with the
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Speaker 1: van the Punk Real Star and a woman inside the
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Speaker 1: residents that evening, and the log entry for Kennedy's case
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Speaker 1: is says the woman stated her boyfriend picked her up
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Speaker 1: and threw her to the ground. As reported, James Kennedy
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Speaker 1: was arrested for misdemeanor domestic battery upon spouse slash co habit.
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Speaker 1: So what we have learned though, is obviously James kennedy
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Speaker 1: girlfriend Ali Luberg is the one that called the police,
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Speaker 1: and she has since released a statement saying to everybody,
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Speaker 1: thank you to everyone who has reached out with love
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Speaker 1: and support and for checking in on me. I'm okay
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Speaker 1: and taking the time I need right now. I deeply
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Speaker 1: appreciate all the kindness and respect for my privacy.
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Speaker 2: During this time. Ryan, what do you make of all
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Speaker 2: of this?
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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, it's just really I mean, it's just
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Speaker 3: very sad, and obviously we just want to make sure
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Speaker 3: Ali is okay in all of this and that she
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Speaker 3: has a strong support group. But it just really fascinating
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Speaker 3: because we were there at that party with him, and
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Speaker 3: you know, I was saying I was trying to think
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Speaker 3: of things that I remembered or noticed, and I just say,
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Speaker 3: he seemed really up, Like I was like, oh, this
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Speaker 3: guy's pounding red bulls. Like I didn't really think anything
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Speaker 3: of it. And I talked to Lauren Herbert, who works
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Speaker 3: for Access Hollywood with the Housewives Nightcap podcast, and he
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Speaker 3: had brushed by her on the red carpet and didn't
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Speaker 3: stop to talk, so I was Then they had a
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Speaker 3: conversation like halfway through the party where I was walking
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Speaker 3: up and he was like, I'm sorry, what would I
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Speaker 3: actually talk about? And she was like, well, you could
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Speaker 3: talk about your sobriety, you could talk about your your
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Speaker 3: residency in Vegas, and he was like, well, I don't know,
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Speaker 3: I've got to go find Ali, and he was really
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Speaker 3: kind of rude and brushed her off, and she was
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Speaker 3: telling me the story and I was like, but at
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Speaker 3: the same time, I kind of laughed at it because
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Speaker 3: I was like, oh, that's DJ James Kennedy, the British
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Speaker 3: like snobbery, and we were kind of laughing about it.
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Speaker 3: This obviously not funny at all. I am still curious
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Speaker 3: because you know, they don't mention Ali's name, they say
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Speaker 3: the girlfriend, but also if a neighbor called, because that
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Speaker 3: was the initial rumor that a neighbor had called. And
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Speaker 3: but then when we got the Burbank police report, it
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Speaker 3: said she stated that the boyfriend picked her up or
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Speaker 3: James Kennedy and threw her to the ground. These are
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Speaker 3: very serious charges. He still went ahead and performed his
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Speaker 3: show in Milwaukee this weekend, but they are canceling what
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Speaker 3: I understand, his Vegas residency has been taken down off
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Speaker 3: the website, and I believe his Dallas promotoshop.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, mine is that breaking news.
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Speaker 1: So explain to the rangdops what happened with his residency.
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Speaker 3: So I believe I'm trying to think of I don't
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Speaker 3: know if it was live, but they have removed his
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Speaker 3: residency from their website as of yesterday, and I believe
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Speaker 3: the Dallas Komodo show has been canceled as well. But
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Speaker 3: he went on as normal, and TMZ did an article
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Speaker 3: yesterday with him performing, you know, pumping up the crowd,
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Speaker 3: and then TMZ got him at Long Beach Airport arriving
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Speaker 3: back in Los Angeles yesterday, but he just he he
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Speaker 3: didn't say anything and just got in his, uh his
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Speaker 3: ride to leave. So we have not had an official
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Speaker 3: statement from James Kennedy at all, but it does look
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Speaker 3: like shows are dropping in the new year.
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Speaker 1: So what's interesting is we were at the same party
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Speaker 1: and a friend of mine, and I'm stating this exclusively,
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Speaker 1: a friend of mine had sort of a run in
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Speaker 1: with James Kennedy that evening, allegedly, because you know, I
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Speaker 1: alleged to put it out there, Allegedly, a friend of
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Speaker 1: mine explained to me that allegedly James Kennedy like bumped
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Speaker 1: him and brushed past him in a very aggressive way,
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Speaker 1: and he didn't think anything of it, besides, that's just
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Speaker 1: James Kennedy being James Kennedy, but said that his behavior
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Speaker 1: was somebody that mimics what you were talking about Ryan
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Speaker 1: on the Very Carpet.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I saw him in listen. He his behavior
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Speaker 1: was definitely one that you see on the show. And listen,
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying I saw anything aggressed up. I did
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Speaker 1: not see anything aggressive me either, but what I did
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Speaker 1: see was somebody who does appeared to be a little
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Speaker 1: bit moody.
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Speaker 2: I'll say that where you know, he.
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Speaker 1: Wasn't in the holiday spirits is what I'll say, Well,
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Speaker 1: you know Carlos.
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Speaker 3: And I also was like, well, you know, in my head,
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Speaker 3: I was like that night, I was like, he's probably grumpy.
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Speaker 3: You know, he's not Vanderpump rules OG's aren't coming back,
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Speaker 3: so he probably doesn't have a lot to celebrate, even
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Speaker 3: though I think his DJ career was flourishing. But I
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Speaker 3: kind of just wrote those things off until I heard
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Speaker 3: the news like a day and a half later, when
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Speaker 3: it broke on Thursday morning, and then I was shocked.
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Speaker 3: And then I was just trying to remember those little
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Speaker 3: instances throughout the night. But I just remember him kind
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Speaker 3: of running all around or like running over here, and
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Speaker 3: I was having such a good time. I mean, listen
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Speaker 3: the Salt Lake City ladies, I feel like they I
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Speaker 3: was like, man, I'm watching characters right and left. So
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Speaker 3: he was just another character that I've seen on that
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Speaker 3: I've seen James Kennedy drunk in the past, Like I mean,
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Speaker 3: I've seen eight years ago drunk James Kennedy. It wasn't
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Speaker 3: that it was not him like being like I've seen
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Speaker 3: him drunken, belligerent. I did not see that at all.
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Speaker 3: He just seemed up and potentially a little annoyed.
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Speaker 1: I would co sign that in terms of what I
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Speaker 1: witnessed as well. What is unfortunate though Ryan is allegedly
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Speaker 1: a lot of people close to production, even the cast,
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Speaker 1: is saying that this behavior is familiar, that this is
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Speaker 1: something that they aren't surprised by.
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Speaker 2: Did you hear the same thing as well?
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Speaker 3: Of course? I mean we obviously had Christian Doty reposting
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Speaker 3: in her stories with the words finally at the TMZ
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Speaker 3: article because he used to date Christian, and Christian's always
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Speaker 3: kind of, you know, alleged or hinted at certain behaviors
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Speaker 3: with James Kennedy as well as Rachel Levis. And my
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Speaker 3: thought or my question to you, I was so curious
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Speaker 3: just from a production angle, you know how wrangling these
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Speaker 3: people with these personalities and these issues because you believe
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Speaker 3: in them, you champion, and I know these people grow
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Speaker 3: to love or already love the people that they're filming.
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Speaker 3: But man, you have this history now that everybody goes
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Speaker 3: back or even on the show you've seen, and it's
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Speaker 3: just another example of this man potentially still being in
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Speaker 3: a very dark place and harming others, allegedly or potentially. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's the interesting thing because you know, when
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Speaker 1: you are a cast member on a reality show and
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Speaker 1: you know you have this reputation for being somewhat this aggressive. Again,
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Speaker 1: all of this is alleged, because we haven't seen any
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Speaker 1: of this ourselves, right, I believe, and you tell me
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Speaker 1: if I'm wrong, Ryan, I believe that Ali is the
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Speaker 1: first person to actually call the police and follow a police.
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Speaker 2: Report in regards to him allegedly.
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Speaker 1: You know, we have to say the word alleged allegedly
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Speaker 1: physically slamming her down to the ground, which is, by
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Speaker 1: the way, awful. Yeah, my boss and press go out
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Speaker 1: to Ali and every woman who has experienced that. But listen,
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Speaker 1: you also have to wonder too, similar to shots of
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Speaker 1: Sunset not being back on the air, and you know
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Speaker 1: the video that was released where you saw Mike. Listen,
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Speaker 1: I have to say, allege you guys, because it's a
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Speaker 1: legality situation. You saw the video, Ryan, where Mike allegedly
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Speaker 1: was slamming down his girlfriend, and all of a sudden,
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Speaker 1: shots of Sunset is not back on the air. You
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Speaker 1: have to sometimes wonder is this part of the reason
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Speaker 1: that the Pum Rules cast is not coming back.
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Speaker 3: Well, you have to imagine that it becomes a giant
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Speaker 3: headache at a certain point, you know, like you can
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Speaker 3: only go so far down a road, and if you
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Speaker 3: are dealing with like you know, obviously there's a fair
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Speaker 3: amount of toxicity that already exists and that they can
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Speaker 3: actually show. But it gets to a certain point and
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Speaker 3: then when you throw like the sand of all situation,
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Speaker 3: it really feels like it's run its course. And I
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Speaker 3: don't think any of us would sign up to watch
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Speaker 3: a season of James Kennedy defending d allegedly or any
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Speaker 3: of these things. You know, I think it's a really
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Speaker 3: hard and it's it's not twenty thirteen anymore. You know,
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Speaker 3: you can't get away with Stacey slapping Christen Dodi on
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Speaker 3: that one episode. You can't get away with with any
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Speaker 3: court sort of physical behavior, and especially against a woman.
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Speaker 3: There's a hard line stance that you have to take.
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Speaker 3: And I would imagine if Bravo will have to completely
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Speaker 3: distance themselves from him, because I at Leasa vander Pump
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Speaker 3: just did an interview last week saying, well, I could
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Speaker 3: see maybe James coming back for a little like a
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Speaker 3: cameo with the ogs, and no.
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Speaker 2: Longer that was that after the arrest, before they.
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Speaker 3: Are before the arrest. Before. This was when she was
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Speaker 3: doing the press tour for Pinkies in Vegas, she had mentioned,
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Speaker 3: you know, maybe Schwartz or DJ James Kennedy could make
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Speaker 3: a cameo. And I think at that point then that
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Speaker 3: that's got to be out the window at this point.
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Speaker 3: But he still has not made a statement, but he
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Speaker 3: has hired his own lawyers. They say they are personally
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Speaker 3: investigating as well, which is what lawyers, you know, do,
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Speaker 3: And and you know, I think at the end of
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Speaker 3: the day, I think everybody just wants to make sure
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Speaker 3: Ali's okay. She seems like a really bright light. And
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Speaker 3: I think we're all just sad because everybody's like, well,
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Speaker 3: it makes us as an audience kind of question ourselves,
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Speaker 3: like when you're rooting for somebody and then you're like,
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Speaker 3: oh man, things things still don't seem like they're good.
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Speaker 2: It doesn't, It doesn't, It doesn't.
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Speaker 1: And speaking of Rachel, she also released a statement on
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Speaker 1: her Instagram that stated the amount of times I convinced
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Speaker 1: myself that the abuse I endure by James Kennedy was
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Speaker 1: a misunderstanding is sickening. So James Lawyers, as you said,
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Speaker 1: they stated that they are conducting their own investigation. So
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Speaker 1: once again Ryan and I agree that obviously our thoughts
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Speaker 1: in Presgralton Ali and any woman who has suffered through
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Speaker 1: the hands of any type of abuse is uncalled for
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Speaker 1: and it's not okay, and we both stand again against it. Child.
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Speaker 1: We are just getting started. This is reality with the King,
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Speaker 1: and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the show,
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Speaker 1: shifting gears a bit to another than the Pun's real
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Speaker 1: star is Tom Sandoval.
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Speaker 3: Oh, make it stop. Make it stop with this man.
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Speaker 3: He does not seem to like none of these God,
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Speaker 3: this is what worries me. The women of vander Pump Rules.
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Speaker 3: They got their s together a little bit way more
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Speaker 3: than the guys. Like, how did we already get into
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Speaker 3: another Tom Sandoval scandal before the end of twenty twenty four.
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Speaker 1: It's just insane because listen, I think we were all
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Speaker 1: just getting ourselves prepared for today's episode. And as the
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Speaker 1: reality gospe upstairs would have it, Tom Sandoval, who who
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Speaker 1: does can't seem to stay away from Tamz has been
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Speaker 1: caught in another scandal, but this time it is allegedly
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Speaker 1: with his girlfriend, and.
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Speaker 2: We have the report. So Tom Santavalt went live recently.
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Speaker 3: In Regardless last night for six minutes, and it was.
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Speaker 1: So cryptic because well Ron explained to us exactly what
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Speaker 1: was going on.
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Speaker 2: Oh, it's weird to me watch so this.
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Speaker 3: Is So it's like midnight last night. I'm trying to
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Speaker 3: like unwind, prepare for reality with the King. It was
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Speaker 3: gonna be a big day. And then all of a sudden,
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Speaker 3: I start getting dms from people because I don't follow
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Speaker 3: Victoria Lee Robinson, his girlfriend, and she has a private account,
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Speaker 3: so all of a sudden I start getting screenshots and
15:42
Speaker 3: this is what she wrote. Wow, you guys were right.
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Speaker 3: Tiger never changes its stripes dot dot dot. He loves
15:48
Speaker 3: the best friends. Apparently, I feel like a fool, completely heartbroken.
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Speaker 3: So everybody's like, whoa because Tom Sandibal did his to
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Speaker 3: like vander Pump rules trivia at City Winery this weekend
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Speaker 3: or this past week, so obviously this is we all
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Speaker 3: took this to mean he cheated with her best friend,
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Speaker 3: you know, allegedly, or that's what we took it as
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Speaker 3: they both unfollowed each other on Instagram, and then around
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Speaker 3: six in the morning Eastern Standard time, Tom Sandibal went
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Speaker 3: on live on ig live, smoking a cigarette, drinking a
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Speaker 3: beer and he's like, listen, it's just crazy in very
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Speaker 3: Tom Sandibal way. He didn't really He just dragged it
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Speaker 3: out for six minutes, didn't really clarify anything, talked about
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Speaker 3: getting her tickets to go see the nineties band Bush
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Speaker 3: with Gavin Rossdale. He was like, dude, I got her
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Speaker 3: backstage pathed with the whole thing, dude, and he's like smoking, Like, dude,
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Speaker 3: I don't. I rarely smoke figarette, but it just crazy.
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Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden he's like trying to
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Speaker 3: explain the story and it's going nowhere. It's not explaining anything,
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Speaker 3: and then the ig live goes dead and then this morning,
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Speaker 3: or just a little bit ago, Victoria Lee Robinson wrote
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Speaker 3: a new paragraph saying, I would like to sincerely apologize
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Speaker 3: for my previous post. I had a true misjudgment in
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Speaker 3: a situation Tom did not do anything. From my own
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Speaker 3: personal trauma and experiences hearing false accusations about him all
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Speaker 3: the time clouded my judgment and got the best of me.
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Speaker 3: Please respect him and know he's actually been the most
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Speaker 3: supportive partner. The internet can be harsh sometimes, and I'm
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Speaker 3: learning how to block out the noise.
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Speaker 2: Oh honey, the check was cleared, you know. I mean, girl, girl, listen, listen.
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Speaker 1: This is the reason why I would never understand because.
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Speaker 2: Ryan, are you married?
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Speaker 1: No?
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Speaker 3: Not yet? No? No?
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Speaker 2: Do you have a girlfriend? Are you?
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Speaker 3: Yes? Yes? Yes? Yeah, very close too. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Okay. The thing is this, I have relationships.
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Speaker 1: I would never understand why a for one second that
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Speaker 1: you have some sort of argument, lover's quarrel, whatever, and
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Speaker 1: you immediately go to social media only to backtrack things.
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Speaker 2: You put out there. Yeah, isn't it.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna have a big bruther of cameras in your
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Speaker 1: apartment for your condo and your rent at home, and there's.
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Speaker 3: No Andy in a camera. And you're saying, I'm trying
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Speaker 3: to stay away from the internet noise. You're creating the
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Speaker 3: internet noise. She's the one creating the noise, and she's
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Speaker 3: saying I'm trying to stay away from it. But they're
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Speaker 3: acting like they're in high school. I don't know if
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Speaker 3: they're auditioning for like a new reality show, but this
18:22
Speaker 3: is a mess, and it's it's extremely it's one of
18:25
Speaker 3: those other things of like, obviously there's trouble. I don't
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Speaker 3: consider this paradise. But this man Schwartz and Sandy's is
18:31
Speaker 3: about to close by the end of the year. Vander
18:34
Speaker 3: pump Rules is done. He can't tour with his band
18:36
Speaker 3: anymore because I think the overhead is too long. And
18:39
Speaker 3: then every weekend it seems like they're in some sort
18:41
Speaker 3: of squabble. But she makes it public and we don't
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Speaker 3: get a clarification from Tom because he can't really properly communicate,
18:48
Speaker 3: and so he kind of just rambles like I do
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Speaker 3: until the ig drops out.
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Speaker 1: You know, well, at least you ramble, you're making stiff
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Speaker 1: Tom stand of all rambles does.
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Speaker 2: Not make anything.
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Speaker 1: But Ryan Tom had the audacity to say at the
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Speaker 1: end of his live before it just cut off like
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Speaker 1: a cliffhanger of a Salt Lake City episode, Tom said,
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Speaker 1: big mistake, big mistake.
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Speaker 2: So I took that ass like is that a threat?
19:19
Speaker 1: And then hours later the girlfriend apologizes it talks about
19:24
Speaker 1: what a great citizen he is, as if he was
19:28
Speaker 1: the one doing charity at Kathy Hilton's Christmas party, Like
19:32
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on here.
19:34
Speaker 2: It's strange.
19:35
Speaker 3: But also in the same week that these devastating James
19:38
Speaker 3: Kennedy allegations come out, this happens like, I mean it really,
19:43
Speaker 3: I just I am scared that Tom might not have
19:45
Speaker 3: learned anything from these past couple of years and it
19:48
Speaker 3: seems like, I don't know, this seems like a toxic couple.
19:51
Speaker 3: From just an outsider's point of view, I have never
19:54
Speaker 3: seen them. I do not know them as a couple personally,
19:57
Speaker 3: but this is just this is high school stuffs behavior.
20:00
Speaker 3: How I mean, Carlos, if you were producing a show
20:03
Speaker 3: with them right now, is this something that you would
20:05
Speaker 3: be like, heck, yeah, good, like we can use this
20:07
Speaker 3: or would you stay away from this?
20:09
Speaker 2: Well that's a very good question.
20:10
Speaker 1: Listen, when it comes to the dynamics of relationships, you
20:13
Speaker 1: want to show the reality of it right when it
20:16
Speaker 1: gets too dark, where obviously someone's being slammed to the ground,
20:19
Speaker 1: like get out of here, like you don't want know
20:21
Speaker 1: parts of that. What is so cryptic about what Tom
20:26
Speaker 1: Sandoval and his girlfriend Victoria Lee Robinson have put out there?
20:32
Speaker 1: It is very strange. I mean, look, you you sort
20:35
Speaker 1: of like to see the inner workings of a relationship
20:40
Speaker 1: that appears to be a bit messy, but there is
20:45
Speaker 1: a fine line with how messy things can become. But
20:48
Speaker 1: that's the reason why I'm so thrown by this, because
20:52
Speaker 1: on one hand, it's sort of like, Okay, is Victoria
20:57
Speaker 1: allegedly trying to hop on the bandwagon of what happened
21:03
Speaker 1: with James Kennedy, right, Because like you said, it's so
21:08
Speaker 1: soon thereafter that incident that you're sort of like, well,
21:13
Speaker 1: what are you saying here? Like you said, Ryan, are
21:15
Speaker 1: you saying that he slept with your best best friend?
21:19
Speaker 1: Are you saying that he did something that he should
21:21
Speaker 1: be arrested for? But then to say he's a great guy,
21:25
Speaker 1: he's been there for.
21:25
Speaker 2: Me, leave him alone.
21:27
Speaker 1: It's like you brought us in the group chat girl,
21:29
Speaker 1: we want to take ourselves out of it.
21:31
Speaker 3: I feel like the little girl from the Exorcist. My
21:33
Speaker 3: head's just like flipping around because there's so much coming
21:36
Speaker 3: out from that relationship all the time, and it just
21:39
Speaker 3: seems I don't know what I'm curious about, though, is
21:44
Speaker 3: how do you well you were speaking about this conspiratorially.
21:47
Speaker 3: I hate that I've gotten so conspiratorially in these last
21:50
Speaker 3: couple of years covering Bravo, but it kind of does
21:52
Speaker 3: it to you. It's like I get the alien New
21:55
Speaker 3: Jersey drones. I can be conspiratorial about that, but but
21:58
Speaker 3: with these guys, like, is there an element of like,
22:01
Speaker 3: look at us, we're still dramatic, look at us there's good?
22:04
Speaker 3: Can't because this? Is there an element of this to it?
22:07
Speaker 3: Or is it just truly that they're toxic together?
22:09
Speaker 1: I think well, I think when it comes to James Kennedy,
22:12
Speaker 1: I think that's just toxic.
22:13
Speaker 2: Well that's different. Yeah, right right, that's totally aside.
22:16
Speaker 1: The thing with Tom Again, I would have to know
22:20
Speaker 1: the details specifically, because you just don't know what it is.
22:26
Speaker 1: It's one thing to have a toss of relationship, but
22:28
Speaker 1: how toxic is it? Is it the fact that you
22:30
Speaker 1: two just you know, you have an argument and you
22:33
Speaker 1: go on social media to, you know, give cryptic messages.
22:38
Speaker 1: Every relationship has its problems, every relationship. You may have
22:40
Speaker 1: an argument here or there, but there are a I'm sorry,
22:44
Speaker 1: there is a fine line though that you just cannot
22:47
Speaker 1: cross in terms of wondering if it's entertainment or not.
22:51
Speaker 1: So that's what's so interesting about this. But I will
22:56
Speaker 1: say this now, it may have been the best decision
23:01
Speaker 1: not to bring these people back.
23:03
Speaker 3: Carlos without a doubt. Could you imagine the headaches they're
23:07
Speaker 3: probably waking up and going, thank God, we're not about
23:09
Speaker 3: to go into production because I think it becomes a
23:11
Speaker 3: bridge too far, Like there's a healthy amount of toxicity
23:13
Speaker 3: that are on these shows. I think Salt Lake is
23:16
Speaker 3: doing a brilliant job this season. Beverly Hills. Obviously, we've
23:19
Speaker 3: had a snowball effect over these last couple of seasons
23:21
Speaker 3: that we're seeing resonate. But with vander pump Rules, it
23:24
Speaker 3: just seems like it's come to its end. And I
23:27
Speaker 3: worry about them as people, especially the men, because they
23:30
Speaker 3: have not seen to be able to grow at all.
23:32
Speaker 3: Think about it. We don't really know a bunch about
23:34
Speaker 3: Ariana's new boyfriend, and you know what, I love it.
23:37
Speaker 3: I love it. Go have a real relationship, go have
23:40
Speaker 3: like you know, we know Sheena and Brock, but we
23:41
Speaker 3: don't know Katie and her new boyfriend that she just
23:44
Speaker 3: announced lest I think that's refreshing and it means that
23:46
Speaker 3: they're probably going to have more successful relationships than the
23:49
Speaker 3: people that are out there monetizing throwing everything up on Instagram,
23:53
Speaker 3: continuing the fights even though the show doesn't exist.
23:57
Speaker 1: Agreed, agreed, Agree, And now that we know the original
24:00
Speaker 1: cast is not coming back, I just don't know what
24:05
Speaker 1: the future is for Tom Sandaval. I mean to be
24:09
Speaker 1: loves to bring us great movies, So maybe there's a
24:12
Speaker 1: to be opportunity for Sandoval.
24:16
Speaker 2: James Kennedy. His tour is allegedly canceled, so.
24:22
Speaker 3: We college, would you would you would you approach Tom
24:24
Speaker 3: Sandoval for a project down the line?
24:27
Speaker 1: This is the thing, and I'm gonna be very honest
24:28
Speaker 1: with you. He's such a whack of do And I
24:31
Speaker 1: mean that how I said he's a whack of do.
24:34
Speaker 1: He's such a whack of do that.
24:38
Speaker 2: Listen.
24:40
Speaker 1: Putting him on Traders made sense because he's an actual trader.
24:46
Speaker 1: He's a cheater or trader and an listened he's an asshole.
24:49
Speaker 3: Well, there's a there's an air of comic gold with
24:52
Speaker 3: Tom because he doesn't realize when he's being funny because
24:55
Speaker 3: he's so outlandish, and I think that serves for Traders
24:58
Speaker 3: and what it's all about.
25:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not sure if I would be invested in
25:02
Speaker 1: following his real life. I just think he's such a
25:06
Speaker 1: ticking time bomb that you just don't want to get
25:10
Speaker 1: caught up in his mess. So my hope is this
25:12
Speaker 1: for these guys. I hope they get the help they need. Honestly,
25:17
Speaker 1: I really do you know, listen without.
25:19
Speaker 3: Law enforcement having to make sure they get the help they.
25:21
Speaker 1: Need, totally, totally, Because the thing is this, those guys
25:26
Speaker 1: were actual servers at a popular Los Angeles restaurant, and
25:32
Speaker 1: within a couple of years they are you know, their
25:35
Speaker 1: profile rays to being infamous at this point, right, And
25:42
Speaker 1: there is some sort of psychological change that happens to
25:45
Speaker 1: you when you literally are serving people and then you
25:48
Speaker 1: become a person where everyone's serving you. But you got
25:52
Speaker 1: to have the maturity and the discipline in order to
25:54
Speaker 1: understand what that thing does to you mentally. And I
25:57
Speaker 1: think mentally, not diagnosing them, I think mentally they in
26:03
Speaker 1: my opinion, need a break from the fame and really
26:07
Speaker 1: do some work. Because I'll tell you one person who's
26:10
Speaker 1: doing a good job at it, Mike from Jersey Shore.
26:14
Speaker 3: Yes, I talked to him last year for his book,
26:16
Speaker 3: and I was so impressed where he really seems to
26:19
Speaker 3: appreciate the life that he has built for himself, he's
26:21
Speaker 3: committed to his family, He's able to actually open up
26:24
Speaker 3: and tell, like, you know, how insane his addiction was
26:27
Speaker 3: during the show, and I think that kind of truth
26:29
Speaker 3: has seemed like it's set him free. I'll be really
26:31
Speaker 3: interested years from now, like I think right now it's
26:34
Speaker 3: so heated. I'm interested to see Sandoval a year from now,
26:37
Speaker 3: two years from now. And I always get scared because
26:39
Speaker 3: there's like a Boogie Nights element, like that movie with Sandoval,
26:42
Speaker 3: where like Mark Wahlberg's like at the top of his
26:44
Speaker 3: game and then all of a sudden, he's like in
26:46
Speaker 3: a studio making shitty music, doing like you know, like
26:49
Speaker 3: all sorts of alleged drugs. I just get nervous. I
26:52
Speaker 3: just want him to pull himself out of whatever vortex
26:55
Speaker 3: he's in and start like learning how to live a
26:57
Speaker 3: real life away from cameras. Like that's my best hope,
27:00
Speaker 3: all of them.
27:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I think they need to stay with the camera.
27:04
Speaker 1: And the one person who I think need to always
27:07
Speaker 1: be in front of a camera is Tamra Judge.
27:11
Speaker 2: Oh I love look dude, she came on my show.
27:16
Speaker 3: She I will say, she played ball. She was like
27:19
Speaker 3: so ready, like even in my disagreements with her, she
27:22
Speaker 3: was like entertaining. She was able to argue like you
27:25
Speaker 3: have to. My audience gets upset at me because I've
27:27
Speaker 3: not softened on Tamra, but I've said she's an essential
27:30
Speaker 3: part of OC. You know, I said, you know, she
27:33
Speaker 3: goes too hard in the paint, and I do wonder
27:36
Speaker 3: how Tamra is in her real real life. But you've
27:39
Speaker 3: got to admit this season of OC was fantastic.
27:42
Speaker 1: H so good, so good, so good that the ratings
27:46
Speaker 1: increased by five percent from last season to this season.
27:51
Speaker 1: They announced it and Tamra just reposted the announcement and
27:55
Speaker 1: said her back hurts, and that's not because her husband
27:59
Speaker 1: Eddie did any thing in their cabin. It's oh hell, hey,
28:03
Speaker 1: it's because she is saying she carried the show on
28:07
Speaker 1: her back. Now, of course, anything Tamara does, she gets
28:11
Speaker 1: read of her filth on social media, and everybody said, well,
28:15
Speaker 1: if you're back hurt, honey, then Shannon needs these back
28:20
Speaker 1: surgery because she actually carry the show. So Ryan, I
28:24
Speaker 1: want to get your opinion. I agree with you one
28:26
Speaker 1: thousand percent. This past season that's just wrapped of the
28:30
Speaker 1: Real Housewives of Orange County was spectacular and it's rare
28:35
Speaker 1: that a season of eighteen years has gotten better and
28:38
Speaker 1: better for the past two seasons, which, honestly, let's be honest,
28:41
Speaker 1: it is because Tamara Judge did come back. However, a
28:45
Speaker 1: lot of people are saying, Tamara, last season, you carry
28:49
Speaker 1: the show, but this season it belonged to Shannon John Jensen.
28:56
Speaker 2: Let's talk about it.
28:57
Speaker 1: Let's talk about it because some may argue, Alexa, so
29:01
Speaker 1: give me your thoughts, my mind, because I'm gonna tell
29:03
Speaker 1: you my.
29:03
Speaker 2: And it may be unpopular.
29:05
Speaker 3: Well, okay, So first off, Tamar posted that as a
29:07
Speaker 3: complete troll, she knew she would upset people by like going,
29:10
Speaker 3: I'm tired of get on my back hurt's. Of course,
29:12
Speaker 3: that's classic Tamra. She knows it's going to upset people.
29:15
Speaker 3: I don't want them to make any changes to this cast.
29:17
Speaker 3: My question is, though, are they going to offer that
29:20
Speaker 3: to Alexis. We saw Alexis and mister Jansen at Kathy's
29:24
Speaker 3: holiday party the other nights, and I'm really curious. Like
29:28
Speaker 3: there was a point where I was like, I definitely
29:30
Speaker 3: want Alexis back. Then by the reunion, I was like,
29:33
Speaker 3: I don't know if we need this especially after Tamra
29:36
Speaker 3: men defences with Shannon. How do we do this logically
29:39
Speaker 3: and how do we incorporate her on storylines? Because I
29:42
Speaker 3: don't think we can have a wedding season without putting
29:44
Speaker 3: Shannon back in that dark hole. A wedding season with
29:46
Speaker 3: John Jansen. But I think they've got all the elements there,
29:50
Speaker 3: and these ladies are just let them cook, like Emily
29:53
Speaker 3: and Gina. Finally, I felt like really came together in
29:56
Speaker 3: terms of the audience reaction to them. But Hamra's going
30:00
Speaker 3: nowhere for anybody to like. That's what always like. As
30:03
Speaker 3: I get further into this, people are like, well, they
30:05
Speaker 3: need a fire Tamra. No, they don't. You need somebody
30:08
Speaker 3: like Tamra and what she represents on that show. Sometimes
30:11
Speaker 3: she's a little too egregious and like I said, hard
30:15
Speaker 3: in the paint, But man, you need that. It makes
30:17
Speaker 3: things happen, and you you need somebody that you can
30:21
Speaker 3: be enraged by at times. You need that and Tamra
30:24
Speaker 3: is so good at that. And I'm sitting there like
30:27
Speaker 3: yelling at my screen. You know, her going that hard
30:29
Speaker 3: on Shannon, But it made for a fantastic season and
30:32
Speaker 3: Shannon got through it. You know, Shannon rose above and
30:36
Speaker 3: we got to see her step into her power and
30:38
Speaker 3: her light, and I want her to continue that way.
30:41
Speaker 3: So I'm I'm really curious. But which, by the way,
30:44
Speaker 3: the Lexus Blino. I changed my opinion a little bit
30:46
Speaker 3: once you had your interview with John Jansen. I told
30:49
Speaker 3: you this. I thought it was a fantastic interview, and
30:51
Speaker 3: the show didn't highlight a lot of the things that
30:53
Speaker 3: you talked about on that interview. That gave a lot
30:56
Speaker 3: of things context. But by the end of the reunion
30:59
Speaker 3: I thought it was a really weird performance. Again, so
31:02
Speaker 3: I'm curious, what do you think?
31:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, thank you for that compliment. Ryan, I agree
31:10
Speaker 1: with you. Look, Tama Judge is a necessary evil. And
31:15
Speaker 1: no I'm not calling her evil because again I would
31:18
Speaker 1: never call a human being.
31:19
Speaker 3: That with full the quote, full quote right right right.
31:23
Speaker 2: Collins, we gotcha. Listen, she she's necessary. Without her on
31:30
Speaker 2: the show, it sucked. It just wasn't good.
31:34
Speaker 1: Anytime you produce a reality show, you need a villain,
31:38
Speaker 1: you need an antagonist. It is the it's one on
31:42
Speaker 1: one in producing reality television, and it's one on one
31:45
Speaker 1: and casting reality TV. You cannot have a reality show
31:50
Speaker 1: where everyone is just like Pollyanna.
31:53
Speaker 2: It's a boring show.
31:54
Speaker 1: Just like you can't have a scripted show or movie
31:58
Speaker 1: where everybody is likable. You need somebody that's sort of
32:03
Speaker 1: rubber feathers and you need somebody that the audience loves
32:06
Speaker 1: it hey or hate to love. And tamar Judge is
32:09
Speaker 1: that person when it comes to this season. Though my
32:12
Speaker 1: opinion is Tamra definitely helped carry the show. I would
32:19
Speaker 1: give the baton to Shannon and Alexis if I'm being
32:23
Speaker 1: completely honest, Really, I want to tell you why the
32:26
Speaker 1: thing is this. I was shocked, shocked, and I've been
32:31
Speaker 1: watching OC since day one, well maybe five.
32:35
Speaker 2: I was shocked.
32:36
Speaker 3: I was I was day one, by the way, I
32:38
Speaker 3: was the group that watched it first night when.
32:40
Speaker 2: It first Okay, I was like, what is this ship?
32:43
Speaker 2: I'm watching Desperate House?
32:44
Speaker 3: What is this?
32:45
Speaker 2: Yeah? Like where's Terry Hatcher? Like I'm not watching this? Okay.
32:50
Speaker 1: I was confused because again it was like one of
32:52
Speaker 1: my first reality ensembles. So but I got into it
32:56
Speaker 1: by episode five. However, I've been watching it since day five,
33:01
Speaker 1: and Shannon Badore surprised me in the season premiere when
33:07
Speaker 1: she approached Alexis and said, let's have the conversation, because
33:11
Speaker 1: that is not Shannon's behavior. As we know it's Shannon.
33:13
Speaker 1: She runs, literally, she runs away from every confrontation. So
33:18
Speaker 1: I appreciated that. I appreciated how she clocked in to
33:22
Speaker 1: the point where she was throwing Tamra.
33:25
Speaker 2: Under the under the bus.
33:26
Speaker 1: I liked the fact that she was exposing things, whether
33:30
Speaker 1: it was true or not, of what John was doing
33:33
Speaker 1: with the picture of her head being bled.
33:36
Speaker 2: It was, it was, it was. It was a lot
33:39
Speaker 2: to digest.
33:40
Speaker 1: But Shannon showed up, Alexis showed up in the first episode,
33:45
Speaker 1: and I just thought the Shannon and Alexis and John
33:50
Speaker 1: Janssen trifecta to me is what drove the season.
33:55
Speaker 2: And Tamra was definitely in the car.
33:58
Speaker 1: But if I have to put one person in the
34:00
Speaker 1: driver's sept I would give it to Shannon only because
34:04
Speaker 1: without Shannon, I don't think Alexis would have shine the
34:12
Speaker 1: way she did, nor would John. So you have to
34:16
Speaker 1: give it to Shannon, and I agree with you as well.
34:19
Speaker 2: Ryan.
34:19
Speaker 1: I don't think Alexis was given a chance, or maybe
34:24
Speaker 1: she was, I don't know, I don't know.
34:26
Speaker 3: Yeah, they might not have they might have had a
34:28
Speaker 3: lot of the actual peripheral scenes.
34:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I will say this Part three reunion, and
34:38
Speaker 1: I said this on my podcast. When they did that
34:41
Speaker 1: pickup scene after the reunion of the girls talking and whatever,
34:47
Speaker 1: I thought that I thought they were sending a very
34:50
Speaker 1: strong and loud message to Alexa and John that we're
34:53
Speaker 1: done here.
34:55
Speaker 3: I agree. But also that end scene was so interesting
34:58
Speaker 3: to me because it was almost like you felt this.
35:01
Speaker 3: You know, you always talk about force multipliers and things
35:04
Speaker 3: of that nature, and I you know, you saw Shannon
35:06
Speaker 3: and Heather really kind of going for Shannon in certain ways,
35:10
Speaker 3: and Heather questioning the photograph and all of that scene,
35:13
Speaker 3: the scene earlier in the season, and it almost felt
35:15
Speaker 3: like they were sitting on that information about John Jansen
35:18
Speaker 3: after the in night where he said he he did
35:21
Speaker 3: hear the accident. They were sitting on that for three
35:24
Speaker 3: weeks and it was so interesting. And if Shannon, if
35:27
Speaker 3: I was Shannon, I would still be a little like, wait,
35:29
Speaker 3: you waited three weeks, But it was interesting. It was
35:32
Speaker 3: like kissing the Ring at the end of The Godfather
35:34
Speaker 3: Part one with Albaccino, where they had to actually kind
35:38
Speaker 3: of bow to Shannon and Heather had have been like,
35:40
Speaker 3: I think you are an amazing mother and you've done
35:43
Speaker 3: this perfectly, And I was like, how like it all
35:46
Speaker 3: ended up showing up for Shannon. I like that you
35:48
Speaker 3: said you would give Shannon the driver's seats, but we
35:49
Speaker 3: want to make sure she's sober. We want to make
35:51
Speaker 3: sure she's sober in that driver's seats, right, And you
35:53
Speaker 3: are so sight suhery, But I love how you put
35:59
Speaker 3: it with the lexus though about out like alexis shine
36:02
Speaker 3: so bright, and I love how you put that because
36:03
Speaker 3: it reminds the audience of just because we dislike a
36:06
Speaker 3: character on a show doesn't mean that that doesn't mean
36:10
Speaker 3: that they're doing bad on a reality show. That means
36:12
Speaker 3: like we were able to joke about it, talk about it.
36:16
Speaker 3: She was you know, she she made things happen in
36:19
Speaker 3: a way that I don't even know if she was intending,
36:21
Speaker 3: but it gave us something to talk about and speculate
36:23
Speaker 3: about every.
36:24
Speaker 1: Week, And that to me is it is what makes
36:28
Speaker 1: a great reality star, is what we do when we're
36:31
Speaker 1: casting for a show. If you look at every single
36:34
Speaker 1: reality show, let's just talk about the Housewives franchise. Every
36:40
Speaker 1: franchise has someone that the audience hates to love or
36:43
Speaker 1: love to hate is by default on Potomac, is Giselle,
36:48
Speaker 1: on Beverly Haills, at least this season.
36:52
Speaker 2: Sadly, it's Kyle, you know which which I think.
36:59
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna get worse before it gets better for.
37:01
Speaker 2: Me too, and it makes me so sad because y'all
37:03
Speaker 2: know how much I love Kyle. She's my favorite housewife
37:06
Speaker 2: in the world.
37:06
Speaker 1: But dere is having a fantastic season, and I think, listen,
37:10
Speaker 1: I think the cast thought it would be Deres villain
37:14
Speaker 1: era and I don't. I think all of them are
37:18
Speaker 1: fucking shocked that Dart Kimsley is the fan favorite this season.
37:25
Speaker 2: And Salt Lake City, you know, you have your villains.
37:29
Speaker 2: By the way, I love.
37:30
Speaker 3: Brittany love you know, I col her Brittani, she spells
37:36
Speaker 3: her name.
37:36
Speaker 2: I think she's fantastic.
37:37
Speaker 1: But it goes to show you that at the end
37:40
Speaker 1: of the day, the Real Housewives of Orange County is great.
37:43
Speaker 1: I do agree with you don't fuck up the casting. However,
37:46
Speaker 1: I will say this, bring Teddy Mellacamp to the show,
37:50
Speaker 1: because that scandal she's living is insane. In the membrane
37:56
Speaker 1: and Ryan I have an update for you. I'm sure
38:00
Speaker 1: you saw the photo.
38:02
Speaker 2: Yah.
38:02
Speaker 1: So, as we all know, Teddy Mellercamp is divorced seeing
38:05
Speaker 1: her husband Edwin, and allegedly, allegedly it's because she had
38:12
Speaker 1: an affair with her horse trainer.
38:17
Speaker 2: Insert jokes there. I won't so Teddy did say, Okay,
38:21
Speaker 2: I will, I'll go ahead, Okay, okay.
38:24
Speaker 1: No, Teddy did say on her uber successful podcast Too
38:29
Speaker 1: Teas in a PA along with Tamer Judge, that she's
38:32
Speaker 1: not going to confirm or deny anything, and I said
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Speaker 1: it is because she's waiting for Bravo to pay her
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Speaker 1: to talk about it on the side of Horse County
38:43
Speaker 1: You Better Season, which I would love to see. But
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Speaker 1: what happened recently is Teddy Mellacamp was pictured with her
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Speaker 1: horse trainer amid affair scandal as they attend her daughter's
38:57
Speaker 1: equestrian competition. And if you look at the photo, the
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Speaker 1: horse trainer and his teeth are in full form.
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Speaker 3: Listen, this guy must have an amazing personality and really
39:11
Speaker 3: knows his way around a horse, because it's it can't
39:14
Speaker 3: I mean, but you know what I'm saying, Like this guy,
39:16
Speaker 3: I was just cudding up. No, but like, how erotic
39:19
Speaker 3: must horse riding be because like they allegedly have this
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Speaker 3: affair like based around like they're the owning of the horse,
39:26
Speaker 3: you know, like because I believe it's Teddy's horse. But
39:28
Speaker 3: the picture this weekend, I was like, wow, to be
39:32
Speaker 3: photographed with him, you know, just weeks after these initial rumors.
39:36
Speaker 3: I'm waiting for this horse trainer to go live like
39:38
Speaker 3: Tom Sandoval's girlfriend on ig because didn't he just have
39:42
Speaker 3: a child with his I'm so confused in parts of
39:45
Speaker 3: this story, and also Carlos what I'm now. I'm I'm
39:50
Speaker 3: fully on board with Teddy coming back to Beverly Hills.
39:52
Speaker 3: And I know people sometimes are ticked that I say that,
39:54
Speaker 3: but she has now even said that she is living
39:57
Speaker 3: part time at Kyle Richards. How how much more perfect
40:01
Speaker 3: do you want it? How much more they're gonna be
40:03
Speaker 3: fighting over chemo sabby hats, They're gonna be fighting over
40:06
Speaker 3: like who's like single Kyle Richards and potentially single Teddy
40:10
Speaker 3: even if she's not with the horse trainer. I think
40:13
Speaker 3: now's the time. I mean, I don't know, I don't
40:15
Speaker 3: This is like a gift to Evolution Media and Alex
40:18
Speaker 3: Baskin like Merry Christmas, go capture this?
40:21
Speaker 2: No, I agree, I agree. Agree.
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Speaker 1: Listen, we all know that unfortunately the Real housewisor Beverley
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Speaker 1: Hills is there airing.
40:29
Speaker 2: They have not taped the reunion.
40:31
Speaker 1: They don't shoot the show or discuss any casting decisions
40:36
Speaker 1: until after the reunion airs, right, so that's a long
40:42
Speaker 1: time to sort of figure out what was going on
40:44
Speaker 1: with Teddy and this scandal. However, Teddy was living in
40:50
Speaker 1: the OC. I mean, she can take the drive. But
40:54
Speaker 1: the Real housewise of Orange County is about to film soon,
40:57
Speaker 1: so I think regardless, I want to see Teddy back
41:00
Speaker 1: on my screen. This affair scandal is so juicy. And listen,
41:05
Speaker 1: let's be very clear what made OC great this season
41:09
Speaker 1: is because we got the trifecta between Shannon Alexis and
41:14
Speaker 1: John Janssen. So to have an opportunity to see Teddy
41:20
Speaker 1: Mellencamp discuss her alleged affair in front of women like
41:27
Speaker 1: Gina and Shannon whose husband's cheated on them, right, it
41:33
Speaker 1: will be interesting to see how they handle Teddy. And
41:38
Speaker 1: because Tamra also doesn't like infidelity and affairs, will she
41:43
Speaker 1: have Teddy's back or will she have to tell Teddy like, girl,
41:47
Speaker 1: you're in the wrong. So that's the reason why I
41:49
Speaker 1: prefer her on Sea. I think when it comes to
41:52
Speaker 1: Billy Hills, unfortunately, those girls will only give Teddy so
41:58
Speaker 1: much commentary because they don't want her around them.
42:03
Speaker 3: But see Carlos, I always call it the Sandy from
42:07
Speaker 3: Grease effect. You want like Teddy to show up in
42:10
Speaker 3: leather pants or hair dune with a cigarette. Tell me
42:13
Speaker 3: about it, stud like, this is a new Teddy, This
42:15
Speaker 3: is a dangerous teddy. This is a teddy that's risking
42:17
Speaker 3: her family and her love life. And to me, that
42:20
Speaker 3: is interesting to see on Beverly Hills as well, because
42:22
Speaker 3: a lot of those ladies don't respect her. Sutton laughs
42:25
Speaker 3: at her what we've seen on the show. If she
42:27
Speaker 3: came back and maybe stepped into some sort of power,
42:30
Speaker 3: there is something interesting in that, at least for me
42:33
Speaker 3: as a viewer the OC. I'm warming up to it
42:35
Speaker 3: now that you're explaining it. But for me it would
42:38
Speaker 3: be Beverly Hills if at all, because I feel like
42:41
Speaker 3: they've got such a great dynamic right now. But I'm
42:43
Speaker 3: still wondering if alexisk is back, if that can hold
42:46
Speaker 3: another season of water without completely just spilling everywhere and
42:50
Speaker 3: just making it really completely toxic in a way that
42:55
Speaker 3: wouldn't work on the show.
42:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And for me, honestly, I just think
42:59
Speaker 1: the story. I think the story has been told, if
43:02
Speaker 1: I'm being honest. When it comes to the Shannon of
43:04
Speaker 1: it all with Alexas, I think the story has been told.
43:08
Speaker 1: I would love to see Alexis do other things, but
43:12
Speaker 1: I also agree that. Look if OC and Beverly Hills
43:15
Speaker 1: were filming at the same time, I always said this,
43:19
Speaker 1: I prefer for Teddy Joe to be on Beverley Hills
43:22
Speaker 1: because Kyle Richards literally has no friends on that show.
43:26
Speaker 1: And I'm listen, guys, I'm being honest. I don't care
43:29
Speaker 1: get mad at me. Nobody on Beverly Hills Housewives this
43:33
Speaker 1: current season is Kyle's best friend.
43:35
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not saying they're not friends. I'm saying best friend.
43:40
Speaker 1: And because Kyle is the force multiplier of that show,
43:43
Speaker 1: she's the face of it, I think it's only right
43:47
Speaker 1: that she gets a best friend. And I listen, I
43:50
Speaker 1: would love to see a scene with her and Teddy,
43:52
Speaker 1: like you said, in the house together Morgan stopping by
43:56
Speaker 1: them all like engaging in conversation.
43:59
Speaker 3: She won't even say more Morgan's name, she wouldn't say
44:01
Speaker 3: her name. And by the then we got those paparazzi
44:03
Speaker 3: photos of them hanging out with Lisa Rinna of all people, Lisa,
44:07
Speaker 3: Morgan and Kyle, and I was like, what is going
44:09
Speaker 3: on here? And would I ever allow my relationship with
44:13
Speaker 3: Morgan Wade, friendship or otherwise to be around Lisa Rinna,
44:16
Speaker 3: who I would like I always know, you know what
44:18
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like she would then have have that information
44:20
Speaker 3: on Kyle in that personal relationship. But Kyle, you know,
44:25
Speaker 3: Dret's finally, you know, coming out with so much stuff
44:28
Speaker 3: and she's actually making sense and why she's hurt. And
44:31
Speaker 3: it's very interesting because I think, like I said, it's
44:33
Speaker 3: gonna get worse before it gets better. And I feel
44:35
Speaker 3: like Kyle is at some point going to be forced
44:38
Speaker 3: to open up and I don't know what that means essentially,
44:41
Speaker 3: but open up fully in a way that she hasn't before,
44:45
Speaker 3: just like we're seeing to reopen up in a different
44:47
Speaker 3: way than we've seen her open up before. And I
44:50
Speaker 3: sometimes wonder if this will be Kyle's last season and
44:53
Speaker 3: not because they would push her out, but because she
44:54
Speaker 3: would choose not to come back. And that's what I'm curious,
44:58
Speaker 3: because I'm just like, we're only four episodes in. Yeah,
45:00
Speaker 3: We're only four episodes in.
45:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
45:03
Speaker 1: And listen, I'm over the Derey versus Kyle at this
45:08
Speaker 1: point and I need something else to happen.
45:11
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, we're still getting it it. We just
45:13
Speaker 3: found out about Bose's relationship Sutton.
45:16
Speaker 2: Uh love.
45:18
Speaker 3: Love, Yes. But see that's what's exciting. We haven't seen
45:21
Speaker 3: Bose get into an argument yet. We haven't seen Bose
45:23
Speaker 3: get tipsy yet. We haven't seen Bose tell a secret
45:26
Speaker 3: behind somebody's back yet. There are so many things to
45:29
Speaker 3: explore with Bo's We already know we like her, but
45:31
Speaker 3: we haven't seen her in action. And you know, Sutton
45:34
Speaker 3: and Jennifer Tilly seem like they kind of like, you know,
45:36
Speaker 3: push each other in terms of like the insanity Erica Jane,
45:40
Speaker 3: you know, being this person that's all the sudden empathetic
45:42
Speaker 3: to other people on the show, which is still relatively
45:45
Speaker 3: a new role for her. And Kyle's the big question mark,
45:49
Speaker 3: like where does Kyle go as a character If she
45:52
Speaker 3: will not speak about Morgan if we have a half
45:54
Speaker 3: baked storyline about her potentially being jealous about Mauricio and
45:58
Speaker 3: buying sheets for his apartment, Like, what is actually happening
46:01
Speaker 3: in Kyle's life?
46:02
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I'm with you, I'm with them,
46:04
Speaker 1: with you, so listen, real hoswas Beverly Hills is definitely
46:08
Speaker 1: still my favorite so far, and I'm looking forward to
46:13
Speaker 1: seeing how they're able to hopefully Ryan give us everything
46:17
Speaker 1: that you explain.
46:18
Speaker 2: But look, I thank you so much for stepping onto recals.
46:22
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's over.
46:23
Speaker 3: Are you can't raindrops? Be kind to me, rayand thank
46:26
Speaker 3: you for allowing me to be here. I tell carl
46:28
Speaker 3: And by the way, Carlos cut this part out if
46:30
Speaker 3: you want. Carlos is one of those people that I
46:32
Speaker 3: He is truly one of my heroes in this game,
46:34
Speaker 3: and there is so much I don't listen to a
46:36
Speaker 3: lot of podcasts and uh because I try to stay
46:39
Speaker 3: away from copying other people's ideas, But like when I
46:42
Speaker 3: listen to Carlos's there's always something I learned, There's always
46:44
Speaker 3: something that makes me think in a different way because
46:47
Speaker 3: I don't share sometimes the same opinions that Carlos does.
46:50
Speaker 3: And what you're doing here, I think, and what you're
46:52
Speaker 3: doing in your career is truly somebody that I look
46:55
Speaker 3: up to. So thank you for allowing me the opportunity
46:57
Speaker 3: to be here today. I'm kissing the ring right now
46:59
Speaker 3: because I told you on I told you Kathy's. This
47:02
Speaker 3: was a real special moment for me because when I
47:04
Speaker 3: started this, you were one of the people that I
47:06
Speaker 3: had wish list and I was reading about you and
47:09
Speaker 3: the Dave Quinn Bravo book and all of your the
47:12
Speaker 3: history that you have, and so I just I can't
47:15
Speaker 3: wait to see you continue to shine. And thanks for
47:17
Speaker 3: letting me be a little in your orbit today. I appreciate.
47:20
Speaker 2: Oh, Ryan, don't make me cry.
47:22
Speaker 1: Listen, I do it cry cry Okay, I'll do it
47:24
Speaker 1: on cue like Shannon.
47:26
Speaker 2: I'm cusy.
47:27
Speaker 3: No.
47:27
Speaker 2: The thing is this, I thank you someone that was
47:29
Speaker 2: very sweet of you. And listen.
47:31
Speaker 1: Ryan has definitely said that to me behind the scenes.
47:34
Speaker 1: I love you, Ryan, You're my guy. And listen, you'll
47:38
Speaker 1: come back on the show hopefully, you know, because I
47:41
Speaker 1: love your tests and anytime. You also have an amazing
47:44
Speaker 1: podcast that I'm subscribed to. So Ryan, let the rain
47:48
Speaker 1: Jobs know where they can find you your podcast and
47:51
Speaker 1: follow you on social media as well.
47:53
Speaker 3: So bad. It's good. With Ryan Bailey. I'm with Betch's Media.
47:56
Speaker 3: We do a show pretty much daily, but we'll do
47:58
Speaker 3: full line by line recap, so it's almost like a
48:00
Speaker 3: little theatrical show. It's really silly. I'll make some points,
48:03
Speaker 3: but it's meant to like kind of make you chuckle.
48:05
Speaker 3: But then we'll have like a full We did a
48:07
Speaker 3: full thing on James Kennedy. We do a pop culture
48:09
Speaker 3: round up every week with other not just Bravo related topics.
48:12
Speaker 3: I have a lot of great guests and people behind
48:14
Speaker 3: the scenes. I've had Carlos on before, i had the
48:17
Speaker 3: head of NFL Films with Hard Knocks on HBO, which
48:20
Speaker 3: I love. So we try to give everybody there's so
48:22
Speaker 3: much exciting things to talk about, and we're just really
48:24
Speaker 3: in the golden age of streaming. But that's there. So bad.
48:28
Speaker 3: It's good With Ryan Bailey's the Instagram account and I
48:30
Speaker 3: just I shit post. I make silly memes and I
48:34
Speaker 3: try to try to make myself laugh and hopefully some
48:36
Speaker 3: of you guys, but follow us there and our patreons,
48:39
Speaker 3: you know, popin We did two Q and a's this
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Speaker 3: week Kathy Hilton update from the party, and we do
48:43
Speaker 3: vander Pump Rules recaps for season two.
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Speaker 1: And it's a great podcast, rang Joss, So please subscribe
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48:50
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48:53
Speaker 2: If you disagree with us, leave a five star.
48:55
Speaker 1: Anyway, We're the building a story that helps, right, come on, ye.
49:01
Speaker 3: I never want to be on these shows. I just
49:03
Speaker 3: want to talk about I just want to talk about.
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Speaker 2: That's it.
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Speaker 1: Well, thank you, Brian, I'll see you the next one.
49:08
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