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Lindsay Clancy, Legal Loopholes, Leftist Lunacy · Rich Valdés: This is America!

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Speaker 1: This is America with Rich Valdez, powered by politiweek.com.
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Speaker 2: And Rich Valdez is with us, former Christie administration official.
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Speaker 3: You work for Chris Christie, you've been in politics, a
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Speaker 5: This is America with your host, Rich Valdez.
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Speaker 3: what you're thinking. We'll talk about that in the final
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Speaker 3: segment of the show. We call it Open Phone America.
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Speaker 3: And Thursday night, September 10th, happy to be back. You know,
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Speaker 3: I was in Puerto Rico for a minute, and I
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Speaker 3: was off the week before that, enjoying the summer, the
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Speaker 3: energy here in the city, vibrant and live like always.
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Speaker 3: And people are gearing up for the 25th anniversary of
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Speaker 3: the September 11th terrorist attack. And these attacks, you know,
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Speaker 3: which hit Shanksville, Pennsylvania and New York City and the Pentagon,
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Speaker 3: cost the lives of a lot of Americans, I should say.
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Speaker 3: And people, of course, want to honor those people. So
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Speaker 3: one of the people that has been making a lot
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Speaker 3: of rounds of attention is New York City Councilwoman Vicki Palladino.
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Speaker 3: She had a press conference at City Hall this week
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Speaker 3: and demanded that Mayor Zoran Mamdani not show his face
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Speaker 3: at the 9-11 memorial. And she's gone viral for those
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Speaker 3: fiery remarks. And guess what? She's joining us tomorrow night.
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Speaker 3: She'll be here on the program for the special 25th
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Speaker 3: anniversary conversation that we're having. We're going to talk about
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Speaker 3: all of that stuff that's going on, plus her thoughts
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Speaker 3: on the RNC convention and everything else that's going on
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Speaker 3: with the midterm election. and how the politicians are trying
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Speaker 3: to politicize the memory of these victims. So I want
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Speaker 3: to know what you think about that. Make sure you
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Speaker 3: don't miss it. That's coming your way on Friday, mañana.
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Speaker 3: And tonight, we're diving into the Lindsay Clancy fallout. And
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Speaker 3: of course, while I was away in Puerto Rico soaking
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Speaker 3: up some sun and some good café con leche, the
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Speaker 3: jury in her triple murder trial was deadlocked, and the
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Speaker 3: judge declared a mistrial. Now, I want to know, was
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Speaker 3: that the right call? Was that the wrong call? Is
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Speaker 3: it just an indifferent decision that was made? Give me
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Speaker 3: a call on this 877-VALDEZ-1. I want you to let
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Speaker 3: me know because people across America are reacting from her
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Speaker 3: defenders who say postpartum psychosis means no criminal responsibility to
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Speaker 3: the haters who say three dead kids demand justice. And
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Speaker 3: I'm a hater. I'm not a fan of Lindsay Clancy.
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Speaker 3: I think she's off her rocker. And I think that
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Speaker 3: murder by mental health should always be criminalized. This is
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Speaker 3: no laughing matter. It's a serious thing. So I want
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Speaker 3: to know, what do you think is next in this case?
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Speaker 3: Because she spoke with, I guess, everybody. You know, her
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Speaker 3: lawyer and the prosecutor made her final arguments. I think
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Speaker 3: we have a clip of the prosecutor, and we also
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Speaker 3: have a clip from the judge. So let's start with
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Speaker 3: the prosecutor to kind of just shed some light on this.
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Speaker 3: You may have heard this before, but I want to
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Speaker 3: bring everybody up to speed so we're all on the
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Speaker 3: same page. Go right ahead.
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Speaker 6: Guarded on the basement floor, Cora wanted to be a
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Speaker 6: doctor and a mom. Dawson wanted to be a firefighter.
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Speaker 6: Helen never got the chance to dream. How about it
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Speaker 6: wasn't okay for one second for any of those children
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Speaker 6: to feel that? She would have killed herself and left
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Speaker 6: her kids alive.
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Speaker 4: The order she killed them in.
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Speaker 6: If she had tried to strangle one in front of
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Speaker 6: the other, they would have known this is bad. And
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Speaker 6: they would have tried to intervene or run and hide.
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Speaker 6: She didn't have time to try to find a child
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Speaker 6: who ran off and hid. So taking Dawson first and
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Speaker 6: moving him to a separate room, having chorusing with Kellen,
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Speaker 6: that's rational. That makes sense. That's ordered thinking. She knew
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Speaker 6: that he was a handful. She knew that he was
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Speaker 6: less likely to be compliant to just go along. She
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Speaker 6: knew that he might struggle. And so it made sense
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Speaker 6: rationally to remove him and separate him first and kill
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Speaker 6: him first. And she brought him into that room, into
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Speaker 6: the office and closed the door. And she wrapped that
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Speaker 6: band around his little neck. And she squeezed until he
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Speaker 6: was unconscious. As the blood's pooling in his face and
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Speaker 6: causing those blood vessels to burst, causing him pain and
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Speaker 6: panic and confusion. And defense calls Dr. La Pasada to say, no,
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Speaker 6: it wasn't 20 or 30 seconds.
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Speaker 7: It was only 5 or 10 seconds.
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Speaker 6: That until you're not unconscious.
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Speaker 8: I'm sorry.
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Speaker 6: How many seconds is it okay for them to have
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Speaker 6: been in pain and panic and confusion? How about it
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Speaker 6: wasn't okay for one second for any of those children
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Speaker 6: to feel that? And they all felt it. All for
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Speaker 6: up to 30 seconds. She continued strangling their left bodies
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Speaker 6: for one to two minutes to make sure they were dead.
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Speaker 6: Deliberate premeditation and then extreme atrocity and cruelty. The indifference
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Speaker 6: that she showed to their pain, to their struggle, to
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Speaker 6: their suffering, leaving them there on the floor with the
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Speaker 6: bands around their necks.
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Speaker 4: Just think of that.
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Speaker 6: The being strangled and the pain and the confusion that
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Speaker 6: they're going through. And it's being done by their mom.
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Speaker 6: Their mom is the one that's hurting them. Their mom
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Speaker 6: is the one that's killing them. She didn't see them
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Speaker 6: as individual human beings with rights. with dreams, with futures,
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Speaker 6: individually belonging to them. You heard about the three kids.
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Speaker 6: Cora wanted to be a doctor and a mom. Dawson
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Speaker 6: wanted to be a firefighter. Callan never got the chance
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Speaker 6: to dream. Who knows what future he would have dreamed
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Speaker 6: for himself. She killed them and she left them there
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Speaker 6: on the floor with the bands around their necks. She
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Speaker 6: didn't bring them up to their beds and put them
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Speaker 6: with their favorite stuffed animal and cover them up gently
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Speaker 6: and lovingly, leaving them peacefully there. No, she left them
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Speaker 6: discarded on the basement floor like broken toys because she
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Speaker 6: was done playing the game.
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Speaker 9: She left.
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Speaker 3: She left them on the basement floor like broken toys.
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Speaker 3: This is a powerful closing statement from the prosecutor. Kudos
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Speaker 3: to her. This was not declared a mistrial for any
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Speaker 3: fault of her own. This was a judge being extraordinarily weak,
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Speaker 3: in my opinion. This is not something that should be
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Speaker 3: open for debate when you kill a human being, let
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Speaker 3: alone children that are innocent, let alone the mother killing
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Speaker 3: the children. This should be an open and shut thing.
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Speaker 3: This woman should get the electric chair, firing squad, lethal injection,
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Speaker 3: whatever type of death penalty is available. It's my opinion.
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Speaker 3: Forgive me for being so blunt. But the judge did
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Speaker 3: weigh in. We have a clip of the judge for
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Speaker 3: whatever it's worth.
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Speaker 4: Go ahead.
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Speaker 3: Play the tape.
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Speaker 9: Good afternoon, everyone. I just wanted to go over a
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Speaker 9: couple of things this afternoon.
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Speaker 1: First off, I want to remind you that you are
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Speaker 1: required to follow my instructions on the law as I
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Speaker 1: gave them to you.
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Speaker 9: All right.
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Speaker 1: I also want to, at this point, go over the
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Speaker 1: instruction that I gave you about reasonable doubt.
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Speaker 9: And so, reasonable doubt.
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Speaker 1: The burden is on the Commonwealth to prove beyond a
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Speaker 1: reasonable doubt that the defendant is guilty of the charges
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Speaker 1: made against her.
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Speaker 9: What is proof beyond a reasonable doubt?
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Speaker 1: Well, the term is often used and probably pretty well understood,
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Speaker 1: though it's not easily defined. Proof beyond a reasonable doubt
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Speaker 1: does not mean proof beyond all possible doubt for everything
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Speaker 1: in the lives of human beings is open to some
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Speaker 1: possible or imaginary doubt.
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Speaker 9: The charge is proved beyond a reasonable doubt.
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Speaker 1: If after you've compared and considered all of the evidence
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Speaker 1: you have in your minds and abiding conviction to a
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Speaker 1: moral certainty that the charge is true.
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Speaker 3: Well, that seems pretty clear, right? But yet I don't
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Speaker 3: think that happened, right? They tried to hold out here, um,
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Speaker 3: As far as they could. Matter of fact, the holdout juror,
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Speaker 3: and it was not that the holdout was the bad guy.
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Speaker 3: In my opinion, the holdout was the good guy. These
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Speaker 3: people overwhelmingly sided with this murderous individual, the murderous mom.
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Speaker 3: It was one man who wasn't willing to go with them,
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Speaker 3: with their hung jury. Really, really fascinating stuff. Matter of fact,
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Speaker 3: I learned that tidbit watching CBS News. Gayle King did
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Speaker 3: an interview, and Gayle King was left kind of dumbfounded
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Speaker 3: when she found out that it was a guy that
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Speaker 3: was the holdout. But it doesn't come as a surprise
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Speaker 3: to me that the guy was the holdout. Why, Rich?
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Speaker 3: Why doesn't it come as a surprise? Well, I'll explain.
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Speaker 3: The reason it doesn't come as a surprise to me
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Speaker 3: is because men... kind of statistically, will only kill their
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Speaker 3: own children if they've killed the children's mother. Now, I'm
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Speaker 3: not saying that's right or wrong. Yes, it's definitely wrong.
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Speaker 3: I'm saying that it's almost excruciating women that kill their children.
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Speaker 3: And I'm not making an argument saying that men are better.
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Speaker 3: I'm just making it clear that men don't solely kill
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Speaker 3: their children. Very few cases of men that actually just
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Speaker 3: go and kill their kids as opposed to women. There's
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Speaker 3: plenty of cases of women that just kill their kids.
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Speaker 3: They won't kill their husband. They just kill the kids.
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Speaker 3: Whereas men won't kill their kids unless they've killed the mother.
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Speaker 3: And it's like a family murder-suicide type of thing. Which, again,
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Speaker 3: not something I understand. And I will bring it up
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Speaker 3: to one of my favorite psychiatrists, Dr. Carol Lieberman, when
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Speaker 3: I speak with her. We won't be speaking with her tonight.
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Speaker 3: We tried to get her tonight, but she was unavailable.
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Speaker 3: But I have the clip of Gayle King speaking with
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Speaker 3: another juror in the case, and that juror explaining to
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Speaker 3: her that the holdout was not only a man, but
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Speaker 3: Paula Devlin, the juror, explained that she is... describing the
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Speaker 3: holdout juror as a black man. Listen to this.
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Speaker 10: And then everybody else was white. A lot of the
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Speaker 10: jurors had children.
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Speaker 9: One person of color was a person of color, a
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Speaker 9: woman or a man?
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Speaker 10: A man.
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Speaker 5: A man.
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Speaker 9: Is a holdout juror a person, a black man?
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Speaker 10: Yes.
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Speaker 9: A black man is a holdout juror?
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Speaker 10: Yes. Yes.
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Speaker 9: I'll have to sit with that for just a second.
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Speaker 3: Was there.
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Speaker 3: Isn't that something? Gayle King quite surprised. But if we
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Speaker 3: look at the news as of late, there's not only
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Speaker 3: a standard or a statistical anomaly here that women are
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Speaker 3: kind of exclusively the killers of their own children. And
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Speaker 3: that does not include abortion, by the way. I'm not
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Speaker 3: including any abortion numbers in that. This is just women
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Speaker 3: killing children or parents killing their children without killing their spouse.
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Speaker 3: When you remove killing the spouse, it's almost exclusively women.
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Speaker 3: And as of late, there's an uptick in this, right?
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Speaker 3: We keep seeing more and more reports on it. Fascinating stuff, right?
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Speaker 3: There's a real-life Clancy effect going on, which is a
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Speaker 3: psychological contagion, as they describe it, saying that this... has
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Speaker 3: acted as a severe psychological trigger. And the forensic psychologists, sadly,
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Speaker 3: they know that a lot of this publicity around the
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Speaker 3: case can prompt copycat killings. Isn't that crazy? So there's
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Speaker 3: actually a real spike in these cases. This isn't just
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Speaker 3: media fabrication. Just days ago, you got a 40-year-old, Corey Walsh,
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Speaker 3: a mom in Frankfurt, Illinois. She was charged with first-degree
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Speaker 3: murder after her two-year-old son was found dead. Prosecutors say
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Speaker 3: that Walsh had become very invested in the Lindsay Clancy trial,
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Speaker 3: texting her friends about it just hours before killing her son. Now,
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Speaker 3: you can't tell me. You can call this postpartum depression
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Speaker 3: all you want, but if you're invested in this trial,
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Speaker 3: you're like, oh my gosh, this is like a real
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Speaker 3: big thing. And you're becoming an activist in the Lindsay
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Speaker 3: Clancy trial. And then you go and do it yourself.
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Speaker 3: Is this a trigger in a psychotic break? Or is this,
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Speaker 3: you say, hold on a second. Clancy just had a mistrial.
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Speaker 3: The lady in the Bronx got off with guilty by
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Speaker 3: reason of insanity. So what's the story here? Well, listen
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Speaker 3: to this. This is Lindsay Clancy's attorney explaining that, no, no, no,
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Speaker 3: this is not a copycat killing. Matter of fact, you
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Speaker 3: know what? I'm going to pause right here. We'll come
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Speaker 3: back and play that audio as well as the audio
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Speaker 3: of the mom in the Bronx, the mom in Illinois,
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Speaker 3: as well as the mom, not Lindsay Clancy, another mom
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Speaker 3: in Massachusetts. That's just in the last couple of weeks.
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Speaker 3: And there's others that have happened in the last year
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Speaker 3: and the last two years. This is not good. Keep
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Speaker 3: it locked right here on Rich Valdez.
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Speaker 4: This is America. This is America. He's brown, he's bald,
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Speaker 4: and he's breaking it down.
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Speaker 3: Oh, he's so handsome.
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Speaker 11: What's his name?
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Speaker 3: Rich Valdez.
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Speaker 5: All right, let me go.
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Speaker 3: Welcome back. And we continue. Has the Lindsay Clancy case
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Speaker 3: created a copycat killer effect? Well, I got a couple
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Speaker 3: of clips I'm going to play for you because there
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Speaker 3: is a real spike in cases. Like I mentioned, we've
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Speaker 3: got a few cases throughout the country. I've got a
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Speaker 3: couple of clips of audio. But there's definitely an undeniable
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Speaker 3: uptick going on. Let's start with this one.
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Speaker 4: Go right ahead.
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Speaker 12: Jeanette McLaughlin is her own woman, but there's been a discussion,
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Speaker 12: a discourse that's opened up in this country about whether
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Speaker 12: or not we want to criminalize mental illness, and I'm
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Speaker 12: hoping that this district attorney's office and the new district
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Speaker 12: attorney-elect takes a look at this and takes a different
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Speaker 12: approach in how we prosecute women suffering from profound mental
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Speaker 12: health problems.
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Speaker 3: Hold on a second. Hold on a second, sir. You're
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Speaker 3: saying that this is not, what are you saying? This
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Speaker 3: is not Lindsay Clancy 2.0. Okay, so that's the first
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Speaker 3: thing he says. This is Lindsey Clancy's attorney. Oh, no,
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Speaker 3: I'm sorry. This is the attorney for Jeanette McCausland. And
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Speaker 3: then he goes on to say that we are criminalizing
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Speaker 3: mental health. No, sir, we are criminalizing murder by mental health, right?
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Speaker 3: Because last I understood, you could be angry and murder someone.
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Speaker 3: You could be crazy. Most people that murder people are crazy, right?
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Speaker 3: If you get so angry that you jump in your
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Speaker 3: car and run people over. We don't say, oh, this
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Speaker 3: poor man, he was suffering from a mental health psychosis.
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Speaker 3: He was yelling Allah Akbar as he ran people over
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Speaker 3: in a parade. Nobody says that. It's understood that the
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Speaker 3: people that kill people are mentally ill.
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Speaker 2: Right?
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Speaker 3: Or is this news to you?
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Speaker 7: Behind the family photos and perfect social media posts, Jeanette
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Speaker 7: McCausland was hinting that nobody knew the real truth about
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Speaker 7: her marriage. Months later, prosecutors say her children were dead.
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Speaker 7: Imagine hating your husband more than you love your kids.
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Speaker 7: That's the part I can't wrap my head around. In
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Speaker 7: April 2026, Jeanette McCausland was accused of killing her two
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Speaker 7: young children during an ongoing divorce and custody battle. Reports
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Speaker 7: say her husband had filed for divorce and was seeking
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Speaker 7: full custody of the kids. She attempted to take her
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Speaker 7: with them, but failed. She drove to her aunt's house
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Speaker 7: after her revenge and confessed what she did, She has
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Speaker 7: pleaded not guilty to the charges. People online are arguing
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Speaker 7: over motives, mental health, revenge, and custody disputes. But at
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Speaker 7: the center of all of this are two innocent children
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Speaker 7: who should still be here.
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Speaker 13: Jeanette McLaughlin appeared at the home of her aunt, Sandra Madison,
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Speaker 13: where she had not recognized her niece.
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Speaker 9: Ms.
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Speaker 6: Madison observed the defendant to be hysterical and to have
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Speaker 6: a large cut to her throat.
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Speaker 3: Large cut to her throat. She tried to kill herself,
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Speaker 3: according to the reports. Similar to Ms. Clancy. And again,
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Speaker 3: I understand how someone would want to end their own
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Speaker 3: life after destroying and erasing the lives of these little children.
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Speaker 3: But when you look at stuff, long-term data, right? There's
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Speaker 3: an uptick in the last several weeks. The last year
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Speaker 3: or so. And since the original date of the Lindsay
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Speaker 3: Clancy occurrence, right, the trial's been around for whatever, a
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Speaker 3: few months, but the case happened quite a while back.
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Speaker 3: And this focus, this massive national focus on the Lindsay
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Speaker 3: Clancy trial ended in a mistrial just a few days
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Speaker 3: ago on September 4th. Some people are saying that this
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Speaker 3: has been a massive trigger for people. And yeah, there
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Speaker 3: is a real cluster of tragedies that are going on here.
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Speaker 3: According to prosecutors and court documents, they're not a random coincidence.
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Speaker 3: There are witnesses in these cases saying that, explicitly saying that,
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Speaker 3: at least in the case of Walsh, Corey Walsh, in,
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Speaker 3: what state was this in? Forgive me, I just said
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Speaker 3: it right before the break, and now I lost my
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Speaker 3: place here. I'll get back to it. But this 40-year-old Ms. Walsh,
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Speaker 3: and I have a clip on that as well, she'd
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Speaker 3: become very invested in the Lindsay Clancy trial. So let's
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Speaker 3: give that one a gander, shall we? Because I think
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Speaker 3: that's important to note. Go right ahead.
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Speaker 14: Illinois, where prosecutors have charged a 40-year-old woman with murder
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Speaker 14: in the death of her two-year-old son before they say
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Speaker 14: she attempted to take her own life. Court documents say
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Speaker 14: officers responded to the home of Corey Walsh last week,
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Speaker 14: where a neighbor was performing CPR on the child after
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Speaker 14: discovering him in the basement. Investigators say Walsh was found upstairs.
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Speaker 3: Found in the basement. Unbelievable.
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Speaker 14: Heirs in the home with apparent self-inflicted injuries. Walsh allegedly
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Speaker 14: told officers she harmed her son because she believed he
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Speaker 14: was the devil and the antichrist, according to court documents.
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Speaker 3: She thought her son was the devil and the antichrist.
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Speaker 3: Now listen, a good part of me wants to say
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Speaker 3: these women knew what they were doing because they knew
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Speaker 3: what they were doing. They did it. They thought the
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Speaker 3: process through. No part of me doesn't believe that this
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Speaker 3: is not somebody acting as an agent of Satan.
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Speaker 9: Right?
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Speaker 3: This is truly demonic. This is truly evil. This is
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Speaker 3: truly the most horrific thing that one can do.
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Speaker 4: Right?
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Speaker 3: A mother killing her own children. Young, defenseless children. At that,
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Speaker 3: a two-year-old child. A son. Little baby boy. No question
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Speaker 3: this lady's crazy. And there's no question that she should
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Speaker 3: pay the price. I know some people are saying, well, yeah, Rich,
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Speaker 3: she should pay a price, but she just shouldn't have
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Speaker 3: to pay for her life or go to jail for
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Speaker 3: 50 years.
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Speaker 10: No.
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Speaker 3: What should happen when you kill a two-year-old? What's the
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Speaker 3: deal with letting people go all of a sudden? Because, oh,
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Speaker 3: we feel bad? Oh, because I had postpartum too? Oh,
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Speaker 3: because I know what that's like? And, man, you don't
21:29
Speaker 3: know what it's like to have postpartum. Also, because I
21:31
Speaker 3: don't know what it's like, we should stop prosecuting murderers?
21:36
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, make it make sense.
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Speaker 14: Walsh's attorney says in a statement she was experiencing a
21:42
Speaker 14: psychotic episode.
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Speaker 7: She's due in court on Tuesday.
21:45
Speaker 14: The petition to deny pretrial release says witnesses in the
21:48
Speaker 14: case told officers that Walsh had, quote, recently become very
21:52
Speaker 14: invested in the trial of Lindsay Clancy and that she
21:55
Speaker 14: had been discussing the case on a group text message
21:57
Speaker 14: just hours before the incident. A Massachusetts judge, meanwhile, declared
22:01
Speaker 14: a mistrial on Friday in Clancy's murder trial for the
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Speaker 14: death of her three young children. You are struggling with
22:08
Speaker 14: mental health distress, including thoughts of suicide, substance abuse, or
22:12
Speaker 14: emotional distress. Text or dial 988-HELP is free and available 24-7.
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Speaker 3: Well, that is a case that occurred again in the
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Speaker 3: last week. All right, shall we move on? We shall. Now,
22:31
Speaker 3: let me see. Let me go back to my stats
22:33
Speaker 3: over here. Psychologists say that when a massive trial dominates
22:37
Speaker 3: the airwaves, it doesn't just create media noise. It can
22:40
Speaker 3: cause an actual localized ripple effect of copycat tragedies. While
22:45
Speaker 3: the 25-year stats show a baseline that doesn't trend upwards
22:51
Speaker 3: per se, and there might even be a decline over
22:55
Speaker 3: the last 25 years, which I find hard to believe,
22:58
Speaker 3: we're definitely seeing an uptick right now. It's very real,
23:03
Speaker 3: and it's horrific. And this is the Lindsay Clancy effect.
23:09
Speaker 3: It's a real thing. It's actually happening. And this is
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Speaker 3: what happens, I believe, when you have a culture of death. Democrats,
23:17
Speaker 3: not to politicize this too much, but Democrats have been
23:20
Speaker 3: pushing for this with assisted suicide, with abortion going up
23:25
Speaker 3: to the ninth month. I'm not making this up. I'm
23:29
Speaker 3: telling you how it is. That was a recent headline.
23:33
Speaker 3: Just Google that. Democrats pushing for abortion up to the
23:35
Speaker 3: ninth month. When you embrace a culture of death, when
23:40
Speaker 3: you stop valuing life as sacrosanct, as something that you
23:43
Speaker 3: can't touch, that you have to defend, this is where
23:46
Speaker 3: we end up.
23:48
Speaker 9: Right?
23:48
Speaker 3: We've got this case in the Bronx. This case in
23:51
Speaker 3: the Bronx is horrific. Absolutely horrific. Bronx mom is found
23:57
Speaker 3: not guilty. Listen to this.
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Speaker 15: Judge ruled she's not responsible for their deaths by reason
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Speaker 15: of insanity. That judge says 26-year-old Damone Fleming was in
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Speaker 15: a state of psychosis when she killed her kids four
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Speaker 15: years ago. One of them was three years old, the
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Speaker 15: other just 11 months. This case is eerily similar to
24:19
Speaker 15: the Lindsay Clancy murder trial. Right now, a jury is
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Speaker 15: deliberating if the Massachusetts mother was suffering from postpartum psychosis
24:27
Speaker 15: when she strangled her three children in 2023. Eyewitness News
24:31
Speaker 15: reporter Darla Miles is live in Mott Haven with more
24:35
Speaker 15: on the judge's ruling in the Fleming case.
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Speaker 4: Darla.
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Speaker 16: Sandra, a psychiatrist for the prosecution in this case ruled
24:44
Speaker 16: that Damone Sipleming's symptoms, the onset of those acute psychotic symptoms,
24:50
Speaker 16: started during a peripartum period. That's during pregnancy, not postpartum.
24:55
Speaker 16: She was under medical care at the time of the stabbings,
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Speaker 16: but we found out from prosecutors, from their psychiatrist, that
25:04
Speaker 16: she had stopped taking her medication during the time of
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Speaker 16: the stabbings.
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Speaker 13: In reviewing the evidence and the discovery in the case,
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Speaker 13: including the police officers, body-worn cameras, it was apparent to
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Speaker 13: me that this was someone suffering from a very severe
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Speaker 13: mental psychosis.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, guess what, lady? Everybody that's out there stabbing people
25:28
Speaker 3: are in severe mental psychosis. They either got pissed off
25:30
Speaker 3: beyond belief, they lost their lid, you know, they blew
25:34
Speaker 3: their stack. I can't believe we even have these conversations.
25:40
Speaker 3: Disgusting to me that this woman was allowed to go
25:43
Speaker 3: to jail forever in a crazy place. What if she
25:46
Speaker 3: gets out? This woman is more dangerous than some men.
25:51
Speaker 3: She can kill children and get away with it. Disgusting.
25:57
Speaker 16: In November 2022, Damone Fleming was experiencing overwhelming hallucinations which
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Speaker 16: directed her to slash the throats of her two young sons,
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Speaker 16: three-year-old Deshawn and 11-month-old Octavius. This, part of the findings
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Speaker 16: of psych evaluations conducted by both the defense and prosecution,
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Speaker 16: announced Monday in a Bronx criminal courtroom.
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Speaker 13: On Monday, the court allowed Ms. Fleming to plead not
26:25
Speaker 13: responsible by reason of mental disease or defect.
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Speaker 16: The killings happened nearly four years ago, but delayed by
26:31
Speaker 16: Fleming's mental state and her inability to understand the proceedings.
26:37
Speaker 4: Wow.
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Speaker 3: Maybe this is the blueprint that the Clancy people are using.
26:42
Speaker 3: Hoping that they can get the Demone-Fleming effect where you
26:47
Speaker 3: get to walk away washing your hands. Should have aborted
26:52
Speaker 3: these kids. I guess I didn't. Well, I'll kill them
26:54
Speaker 3: after the fact and just say I went crazy. What
26:58
Speaker 3: is wrong with society? I can tell you what's wrong.
27:02
Speaker 3: People have become so comfortable with being comfortable. It's an
27:09
Speaker 3: addiction almost. The moment there's any discomfort, they have to
27:12
Speaker 3: go out of their way. They don't want to do it.
27:14
Speaker 3: They want to do what they want to do when
27:16
Speaker 3: they want to do it. And listen, nobody knows that
27:18
Speaker 3: more than me. I love doing what I want to
27:19
Speaker 3: do when I want to do it. But I'll tell
27:22
Speaker 3: you something I won't do. I would never kill my kids.
27:26
Speaker 3: I would just as soon walk away from my kids
27:28
Speaker 3: and never talk to them again to protect their lives.
27:32
Speaker 3: I would never harm them that way. But that's what
27:37
Speaker 3: these people want to do. And it really begs the question,
27:40
Speaker 3: is this fair?
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Speaker 9: Right?
27:45
Speaker 3: Should we allow these people to get away with this?
27:49
Speaker 3: Because in effect, that's what they're doing, right? They are
27:51
Speaker 3: getting away with murder. They're not paying the actual price
27:56
Speaker 3: of murder the way anybody else would because of mental defect. No, no, no. No,
28:03
Speaker 3: thank you.
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Speaker 5: Anyway.
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Speaker 3: I want to hear some of your thoughts on this
28:07
Speaker 3: when we do Open Phone America 877-VALDEZ1. But straight ahead,
28:11
Speaker 3: I got a couple of clips from the internet, right?
28:15
Speaker 3: From social media, people weighing in on this. A couple
28:17
Speaker 3: of men on the street interviews of people reacting to
28:20
Speaker 3: the Lindsay Clancy trial. So many people are uninformed about that,
28:23
Speaker 3: by the way. I'll let you know some of the
28:25
Speaker 3: conversations I was having when I was in Puerto Rico
28:27
Speaker 3: about this stuff. And the bigger question of should we
28:33
Speaker 3: continue to allow this Should we let people use this
28:38
Speaker 3: as an excuse to kill their children and say, no,
28:41
Speaker 3: we're going to put you in the cuckoo house because
28:43
Speaker 3: you were having a tough day? No, I don't think
28:46
Speaker 3: that should be allowed. Keep it locked right here. It's
28:48
Speaker 3: Rich Valdez.
28:50
Speaker 4: This is America. This is America.
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Speaker 5: All right, familia.
29:18
Speaker 3: Welcome back. Pardon me, I was just yawning. It is
29:20
Speaker 3: late as heck. You know, I do the show at night.
29:24
Speaker 3: We talk about everything going on in America at night.
29:27
Speaker 3: And I want to play a couple of clips for you.
29:31
Speaker 3: Because some of the clips we've got are really interesting
29:33
Speaker 3: in my opinion. They are with respect to this Lindsay
29:37
Speaker 3: Clancy stuff. And I want to just set those up
29:39
Speaker 3: before I do. with telling you a little bit about
29:42
Speaker 3: how interesting the things that I was hearing while I
29:46
Speaker 3: was in Puerto Rico right it was before the mistrial
29:49
Speaker 3: was declared people were saying do you think she did
29:51
Speaker 3: it what do you mean do you think she did
29:53
Speaker 3: it she admitted to doing it on tape to the
29:59
Speaker 3: cops Not only that, she's sitting there in open court
30:02
Speaker 3: and not saying she didn't do it. Her attorney is
30:05
Speaker 3: not saying she didn't do it. So why would anybody
30:08
Speaker 3: else be thinking that she didn't do it? Then others
30:11
Speaker 3: are saying, I don't think she did it. I think
30:13
Speaker 3: the husband did it.
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Speaker 4: The husband?
30:15
Speaker 3: Hold on a second. If the husband did it, why
30:17
Speaker 3: isn't her lawyer saying, my client didn't do this, her
30:20
Speaker 3: husband did? He's saying she did it, and here's why
30:23
Speaker 3: she did it. She didn't do it as a crazy
30:25
Speaker 3: murderous person. She did it as a mom that needed help.
30:29
Speaker 3: So that's the new thing for moms that need help.
30:31
Speaker 3: You can kill your kids with exercise bands. I mean,
30:34
Speaker 3: this is sick. Forgive me for being critical here. Listen
30:39
Speaker 3: to this.
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Speaker 8: It just dropped today. It's a mistrial.
30:44
Speaker 10: I knew it. As it should be.
30:46
Speaker 4: I knew it.
30:46
Speaker 8: Let me tell you what happened. It sounds like it
30:48
Speaker 8: was 11. One juror stood his ground. A man stood
30:50
Speaker 8: his ground and did not change his opinion.
30:52
Speaker 10: What was his opinion?
30:55
Speaker 8: We think, based on all evidence, the point starts he
30:57
Speaker 8: was guilty and the other 11 were NGRI. What's NGRI?
31:02
Speaker 8: Not guilty by reason of insanity.
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Speaker 15: Yeah.
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Speaker 8: Okay, so I got a question.
31:07
Speaker 3: I have a question.
31:09
Speaker 10: Now what happens?
31:11
Speaker 8: Mistrial could go to a second trial if the state
31:13
Speaker 8: tries to prosecute again. Whole new trial from scratch.
31:16
Speaker 5: The whole thing is sad all around.
31:19
Speaker 8: Let me ask you a question. I'm a guy. I've
31:20
Speaker 8: never experienced postpartum depression or psychosis.
31:22
Speaker 4: It's real.
31:23
Speaker 9: Right?
31:23
Speaker 8: I understand it's real. But my point is whether or
31:25
Speaker 8: not a man or woman, mother or father, kills their
31:28
Speaker 8: own kids, for whatever reason, schizophrenia, bipolar, postpartum, you've got
31:32
Speaker 8: to do life in prison. You're too dangerous to be
31:34
Speaker 8: in society. And I don't think mental health facility is enough.
31:36
Speaker 9: I disagree.
31:38
Speaker 10: Yeah, I disagree also.
31:39
Speaker 8: What about justice for the kids? Is a mental health
31:41
Speaker 8: facility justice for Cora Dawson and Callan?
31:44
Speaker 5: I see.
31:44
Speaker 8: It depends on the facility. Well, she might get out
31:46
Speaker 8: in six months, two years, three years. They reevaluate every
31:48
Speaker 8: six months. Her life is ruined no matter what happens.
31:51
Speaker 8: She's in her own prison.
31:54
Speaker 3: Oh, she's in her own prison. So that's the new
31:57
Speaker 3: thing now. When someone else's kids die, right? You go, well,
32:01
Speaker 3: she's already... The killer is... They feel terrible about this.
32:05
Speaker 3: They're in their own prison. I mean, these Karens, and
32:09
Speaker 3: for lack of a better word, because I don't know
32:11
Speaker 3: their names, are truly, truly sick.
32:17
Speaker 15: And I don't think she did it.
32:18
Speaker 8: No, I think she did it. Her own judge, our
32:22
Speaker 8: defense attorney said she did it. The jury, the trial
32:24
Speaker 8: was not about whether or not. I don't believe it. Well,
32:27
Speaker 8: they didn't pursue a not guilty plea.
32:31
Speaker 13: I think she maybe has admitted to it, but I
32:33
Speaker 13: don't think she believed that.
32:35
Speaker 8: She did it.
32:36
Speaker 3: I know she admitted to doing it, but I don't
32:39
Speaker 3: think she believes she did it.
32:41
Speaker 9: What?
32:41
Speaker 3: Where are you coming from, lady? I mean, how do
32:44
Speaker 3: we get to this place where the lady is on
32:47
Speaker 3: trial for killing her kids? The question is not if
32:50
Speaker 3: she did it. It's should she go to the crazy
32:51
Speaker 3: house or she should get the death penalty, which I
32:55
Speaker 3: don't think they even have in Massachusetts. So, you know,
32:57
Speaker 3: life in prison. And this woman's here adjusting her bagelini
33:02
Speaker 3: bag crossbody, by the way. saying, I don't think she
33:06
Speaker 3: did it. It was the husband. How do we get
33:08
Speaker 3: to this?
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Speaker 13: And based on all the evidence that I saw on TikTok,
33:13
Speaker 13: she didn't do it.
33:14
Speaker 8: That's the problem with TikTok.
33:15
Speaker 3: We got to get rid of that app.
33:16
Speaker 2: Thank you, ladies.
33:17
Speaker 3: She did it.
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Speaker 1: Thank you.
33:18
Speaker 8: How are you doing? We got complaints about you guys.
33:23
Speaker 11: So what I'm saying is.
33:24
Speaker 3: So now the security from the parkies that comes over
33:28
Speaker 3: to him and tells him to kick him out. This
33:29
Speaker 3: is Adam Francisco, by the way. He's a good guy.
33:31
Speaker 3: I met him some years ago.
33:32
Speaker 8: Guys, if you stay in this area.
33:34
Speaker 9: I understand.
33:34
Speaker 5: I understand.
33:35
Speaker 3: No, I appreciate that. I have no problem.
33:36
Speaker 8: You're not getting in front of the store entrances.
33:38
Speaker 3: Personally, I'd just like you all to leave.
33:42
Speaker 8: But you don't support free speech.
33:43
Speaker 4: I can't do that.
33:44
Speaker 13: I can't do that.
33:45
Speaker 8: You don't support free speech if you want us to leave.
33:46
Speaker 8: If this bothers you, that means that you're against free speech.
33:49
Speaker 2: It's not so much me.
33:50
Speaker 4: It's my job.
33:52
Speaker 3: Oh, it's not so much him. It's his job that's
33:54
Speaker 3: against free speech. Ah, the trolling never ends. Now, that's
33:59
Speaker 3: not the end of that. There's more reaction here. Caitlin Bennett,
34:03
Speaker 3: she's another one. It's a great channel that has some
34:08
Speaker 3: interaction with people on the street, man-on-the-street interviews. And this
34:13
Speaker 3: one's even more interesting because they weigh in and, man,
34:19
Speaker 3: I tell you, it's just crazy to hear some of
34:22
Speaker 3: these reactions. Blows me away. All right, listen to this.
34:29
Speaker 9: People support it. I've only heard dumb people.
34:32
Speaker 7: Agree with her. We're asking people today if they stand
34:34
Speaker 7: with her.
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Speaker 10: Yes.
34:35
Speaker 7: Tell me what she did.
34:36
Speaker 6: She asked for some hell because she was a struggle
34:39
Speaker 6: about like the maternity.
34:41
Speaker 3: Well, if she did do it, I hope she burns
34:42
Speaker 3: in hell. If she didn't do it, whoever did, burn
34:45
Speaker 3: in hell. Does she belong in jail or does she
34:47
Speaker 3: belong to go.
34:48
Speaker 1: In a nice little mental health?
34:50
Speaker 8: I think she belongs where she can get the best care.
34:52
Speaker 7: She killed her children.
34:52
Speaker 3: That's bad, obviously. I probably disagree. I don't know all
34:55
Speaker 3: the details, but she killed her children.
34:56
Speaker 7: That's probably bad.
34:57
Speaker 6: I think that her husband gaslighted her on a lot
35:00
Speaker 6: of the issues that she was having and he also
35:02
Speaker 6: didn't support her.
35:03
Speaker 3: Her husband gaslit her. Wow, men are so powerful. Men
35:09
Speaker 3: are so powerful they can go to the store and
35:12
Speaker 3: have other people do their dirty work for them. Are
35:15
Speaker 3: you kidding me? How do we get to this place?
35:18
Speaker 3: I know how we get here. I'm just amazed that
35:21
Speaker 3: we're in a place where nothing that is right matters anymore.
35:27
Speaker 3: Women marrying men doesn't matter anymore. Men marrying women. Men
35:31
Speaker 3: being men. Women being women. Women caring for their children
35:36
Speaker 3: and not murdering them. Everything has, well, it depends. Everything
35:41
Speaker 3: has a gray area all of a sudden.
35:43
Speaker 14: No.
35:44
Speaker 3: It's called, you don't read your Bible. We have run
35:47
Speaker 3: away from God. We've abandoned humanity and morality. And we
35:53
Speaker 3: end up in this place of secular humanism where we
35:55
Speaker 3: just are hell-bent on satisfying our own flesh.
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Speaker 8: Where's your proof for that?
36:04
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.
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Speaker 9: My opinion is that.
36:08
Speaker 8: She definitely had mental challenges, but she also committed murder,
36:12
Speaker 8: so she got to be served up.
36:14
Speaker 6: I think that she was absolutely, completely drugged and having
36:19
Speaker 6: a psychotic break.
36:20
Speaker 3: Do you support Lindsay Clancy?
36:22
Speaker 9: No.
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Speaker 2: No, okay.
36:23
Speaker 3: It's about a human.
36:24
Speaker 2: It's about a person.
36:25
Speaker 9: What about the three humans that were strangled to death?
36:28
Speaker 16: That's not acceptable, but we have to.
36:31
Speaker 12: view more than this problem.
36:34
Speaker 3: She was a person.
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Speaker 4: Who asked for help.
36:36
Speaker 3: She killed three kids.
36:38
Speaker 8: She did.
36:38
Speaker 9: So no.
36:39
Speaker 5: Okay.
36:40
Speaker 3: You can't kill three kids.
36:41
Speaker 10: We feel she's very sleep-deprived.
36:44
Speaker 3: How is it that men, even that last guy, I'm
36:46
Speaker 3: going to say he looked like a gay guy, how
36:48
Speaker 3: do you get men to be so adamant on, no,
36:51
Speaker 3: you're not allowed to kill children? She killed three kids.
36:56
Speaker 3: I cannot support this woman. How do we get women
36:59
Speaker 3: that support a woman to That killed her own children.
37:03
Speaker 3: How do you truly this is one of those that
37:06
Speaker 3: has me a little dumbfounded. I understand the roadmap here,
37:10
Speaker 3: but I'm just shocked that that the roadmap worked, that
37:14
Speaker 3: the brainwashing worked, that the massive cult of feminism is
37:22
Speaker 3: working to this degree.
37:24
Speaker 6: Job as a labor and delivery nurse working night shifts
37:26
Speaker 6: and three children is a lot.
37:28
Speaker 9: I was like, you better not be supporting this.
37:30
Speaker 3: I told her I've heard about it.
37:32
Speaker 9: And I'm like, I would run.
37:33
Speaker 15: Mental health awareness is what is coming from this, right?
37:38
Speaker 10: So that's a positive thing.
37:39
Speaker 3: Mental health awareness is what's coming from this. So we
37:42
Speaker 3: should be aware that you can get postpartum depression and
37:46
Speaker 3: somehow end up killing your kids. And we should be
37:48
Speaker 3: aware of that.
37:49
Speaker 5: No, lady.
37:50
Speaker 3: What we get from this is don't kill your kids.
37:53
Speaker 3: Thou shalt not murder. How am I wrong here? I
37:58
Speaker 3: don't get it. You guys support Lindsay?
38:00
Speaker 10: Oh, this one?
38:01
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no.
38:03
Speaker 8: Why do you stand with her?
38:05
Speaker 6: There wasn't a lot of evidence that showed that it
38:08
Speaker 6: was her.
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Speaker 3: Tremenda pendeja. The evidence is Lindsay Clancy admitting that she
38:15
Speaker 3: did it to the cop.
38:17
Speaker 10: A big.
38:18
Speaker 9: She.
38:18
Speaker 3: Told her husband while the cop was there on body
38:21
Speaker 3: cam footage. That the kids are in the basement. And
38:25
Speaker 3: that she did this.
38:27
Speaker 9: She said she did it.
38:28
Speaker 6: Yeah.
38:29
Speaker 3: We're asking St.
38:30
Speaker 6: Pete's opinion on if they support Lindsay Clancy.
38:33
Speaker 3: No.
38:34
Speaker 2: You don't.
38:35
Speaker 10: No.
38:35
Speaker 3: I won't watch you all the time.
38:37
Speaker 4: Well, thank you.
38:39
Speaker 7: That's why you watch me.
38:40
Speaker 3: Because you're common sense.
38:42
Speaker 4: Wow.
38:44
Speaker 3: I got to tell you. This is so disheartening to watch.
38:47
Speaker 3: So disheartening to see. It is wild. to think that
38:52
Speaker 3: we are at a place where this type of thing
38:56
Speaker 3: is considered normal, where people are willing to give the
39:01
Speaker 3: murderer of three children the benefit of the doubt. Now,
39:05
Speaker 3: I understand our justice system, innocent until proven guilty. This
39:09
Speaker 3: woman has admitted her guilt. She's not doing anything other
39:14
Speaker 3: than trying to get a lighter sentence so that she
39:17
Speaker 3: can try and have some semblance of a life because
39:20
Speaker 3: her attempt at killing herself failed. Forgive my crass, callous
39:29
Speaker 3: opinion on this. but I wish that she would have
39:32
Speaker 3: been more successful. It would have saved us a lot
39:36
Speaker 3: of time. And guess what? We wouldn't be having this
39:40
Speaker 3: fallout of the lawyer creating this movement and all of
39:45
Speaker 3: these supporters. It would have been a tragic story of
39:49
Speaker 3: a mom who did this stuff, took her own life,
39:54
Speaker 3: and it would have come and gone without all of
39:57
Speaker 3: the fanfare that it's gotten. And sometimes that's all you
40:03
Speaker 3: can hope for, right? Honestly. I don't want any kids
40:06
Speaker 3: to die. But the last thing I want is for
40:08
Speaker 3: their killer to walk free. Keep it locked right here.
40:10
Speaker 3: More reaction when I come back, plus my final thoughts
40:12
Speaker 3: and open phones across America. Don't go anywhere. I'm Rich Valdez.
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Speaker 5: This is America. This is America.
40:35
Speaker 3: President Donald J.
40:36
Speaker 4: Trump, Mr.
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Speaker 3: President, welcome to the program, sir.
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Speaker 7: Well, thank you, Rich, and thank you for everything.
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Speaker 1: I know you very well, and I listen, but I
40:44
Speaker 1: have a lot of people that listen.
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Speaker 9: And they love your show, and I appreciate it very much.
40:50
Speaker 3: Now you may not have thought it was possible to
40:52
Speaker 3: put a lighter spin on this, but In fact, some
40:56
Speaker 3: cynical comedians have been talking about this Lindsay Clancy case.
41:02
Speaker 3: And I think we have a couple of clips of that.
41:04
Speaker 3: So we're going to get into those momentarily. And I
41:08
Speaker 3: got a grandma who's dropping some knowledge on this because
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Speaker 3: clearly that's, you know, opening up a can of worms
41:19
Speaker 3: that a lot of people aren't paying attention to. But
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Speaker 3: I want to start with The Lindsey Clancy attorney asking
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Speaker 3: President Trump for a pardon. She's facing a state charge.
41:34
Speaker 3: Why he's asking for President Trump to pardon her on
41:38
Speaker 3: a federal charge that, as far as I know, she
41:40
Speaker 3: hasn't even been charged with one yet, is weird. And
41:44
Speaker 3: it smacks of publicity, right? He's just trying to get
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Speaker 3: this case in the news a little more, to taint
41:53
Speaker 3: that pool yet again. Here he is with George Stephanopoulos
41:57
Speaker 3: on ABC News. Check this out.
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Speaker 2: I'd like to say that perhaps Donald Trump, who felt
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Speaker 2: compelled to speak out about this case, may very well, Mr. President,
42:09
Speaker 2: I would hope that you would consider this young lady,
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Speaker 2: the type of person she is, what she's been through,
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Speaker 2: and consider a pardon.
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Speaker 3: Consider a pardon. Mr. President. Sir, with all due respect,
42:28
Speaker 3: you'd be out of your mind to consider a pardon
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Speaker 3: of this woman. And I know you know that. But
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Speaker 3: I just want to be on the record saying that.
42:35
Speaker 3: This is not an area where we could agree to disagree.
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Speaker 3: This is an area that I think would cost you
42:42
Speaker 3: dearly with supporters and detractors across the country. People who
42:48
Speaker 3: love you and hate you would turn around and say,
42:50
Speaker 3: you're off your rocker if you did something like that.
42:53
Speaker 3: Because that's not something that that should even be considered. Now,
42:59
Speaker 3: moving along, let's see, let's go to, let's pull up
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Speaker 3: one of those, the comedian. Again, nothing funny about this,
43:10
Speaker 3: but interesting to see how this is totally infected and
43:15
Speaker 3: affected popular culture. It's quite a phenomenon. This is a
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Speaker 3: comedian named Jia Jing Summers, I think, or Joy Jing.
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Speaker 3: Joy Jing Summers. Go right ahead.
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Speaker 11: Lindsay Clancy.
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Speaker 2: I know.
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Speaker 11: I can't believe it. I would never kill my kids.
43:39
Speaker 11: I would never kill them because I never see them.
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Speaker 11: Something you may not know is that in America, in 1954,
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Speaker 11: there is a lady. Her name is Constance Fisher. She
43:54
Speaker 11: was married to a World War II veteran and they
43:57
Speaker 11: had three beautiful kids and one day she heard voices
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Speaker 11: that God told her to kill her kids and she
44:05
Speaker 11: killed all of them. And the court ruled her innocent
44:09
Speaker 11: by the reason of insanity and she ended up going
44:12
Speaker 11: to a mental hospital. But her husband did something very
44:16
Speaker 11: different from Patrick Clancy. He waited for her because that's
44:21
Speaker 11: how good her pussy was.
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Speaker 7: He waited for three years.
44:28
Speaker 9: And she came out.
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Speaker 11: They remained married, and they moved to a different town.
44:34
Speaker 11: Because that's the reason why her kids died, that the
44:36
Speaker 11: town was a problem. They moved to a different town
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Speaker 11: They had three more beautiful kids and she killed them
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Speaker 11: again She walked so Lindsay can run No, sorry, I
44:53
Speaker 11: apologize So Lindsay can roll That's... That's a f *
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Speaker 11: * * ed.
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Speaker 7: Up joke That is.
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Speaker 11: Tasteless That's disgusting That's awful because I don't think Lindsay
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Speaker 11: did it I can say it because I'm on my
45:11
Speaker 11: period and I blame men for this because it's also
45:19
Speaker 11: called menstrual cycle I don't know I'm just saying if
45:24
Speaker 11: she did it I would never forgive her I think
45:27
Speaker 11: if she did it she'd be locked up because if
45:29
Speaker 11: she's gonna kill her kids at her worst she'll kill
45:32
Speaker 11: yours at her best.
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Speaker 3: Now, I don't know if you thought that was funny
45:38
Speaker 3: or not. I actually do find this woman funny. I
45:41
Speaker 3: didn't find this in particular funny. But that's kind of
45:45
Speaker 3: how comedy works. You're not always going to agree with it.
45:47
Speaker 3: You're not always going to appreciate it. But they talk
45:49
Speaker 3: about real-life situations. And I played that clip to just
45:53
Speaker 3: really show you the impact that this case has had
45:59
Speaker 3: on popular culture, how interested people are in discussing this.
46:04
Speaker 3: And how it's not the first time we've seen it.
46:06
Speaker 3: She talked about a case from back in the days.
46:09
Speaker 3: I'm going to bring up a case from 25 years ago, 2001,
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Speaker 3: Andrea Yates. She drowned five of her children, as I
46:21
Speaker 3: remember that. And that was bananas back then, right? It
46:27
Speaker 3: was like, wow, this lady's nuts. Here we are with
46:32
Speaker 3: the same... But now, back then, everybody was freaking out there.
46:39
Speaker 3: I don't remember anybody being, you know, Andrea Yates fans
46:43
Speaker 3: and people jumping on the bandwagon and killing their kids
46:46
Speaker 3: the same way. Making videos online, screaming, throwing ice, doing
46:51
Speaker 3: all that crazy nonsense. Back then, people were a little
46:54
Speaker 3: bit more sane and they were like, you know what?
46:56
Speaker 3: This lady's nuts. I mean, maybe I'm misremembering it because
47:02
Speaker 3: I'm a guy. But wow, how times have changed, right?
47:09
Speaker 3: Just really, really sad. Anyway, I want to get your
47:13
Speaker 3: thoughts and opinions on this. Happy thoughts, happy calls, happy anything.
47:18
Speaker 3: Give me a call, 877-VALDEZ1, 877-VALDEZ1. But before we go,
47:25
Speaker 3: I want you to hear what this grandma had to say.
47:28
Speaker 3: She took to social media to kind of set the
47:30
Speaker 3: record straight. explaining what kind of Pandora's box opens from
47:34
Speaker 3: her opinion. Again, she's not a lawyer. She's a grandma
47:38
Speaker 3: from Instagram. But I thought what she had to say
47:41
Speaker 3: was pretty interesting and thought-provoking to say the least. Listen
47:45
Speaker 3: to this.
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Speaker 10: If Lindsay Clancy is found innocent because hormones made her
47:49
Speaker 10: emotionally unstable, women better be very careful celebrating that verdict
47:54
Speaker 10: because the law loves precedent. From that day forward, Every
48:00
Speaker 10: job application is going to have a new question. Are
48:03
Speaker 10: you currently hormonal? Well, I'm a woman. Thank you. I
48:07
Speaker 10: think I'll be going in a different direction. You can't
48:10
Speaker 10: carry a weapon anymore. No female police officers. Sorry, but
48:14
Speaker 10: we can't hand a loaded gun to somebody whose legal
48:17
Speaker 10: defense might be, my hormones were acting up. No more
48:22
Speaker 10: high-stress jobs either. No air traffic controllers. No surgeons. No
48:27
Speaker 10: nuclear launch codes. One bad hot flash and boom. And
48:31
Speaker 10: women definitely can't be judges. How can you decide whether
48:34
Speaker 10: somebody else is emotionally stable when your own gender just
48:38
Speaker 10: established in court that hormones can make you kill three people?
48:43
Speaker 10: No female politicians either. You can't be trusted to run
48:47
Speaker 10: the country if, according to your own argument, your endocrine
48:50
Speaker 10: system occasionally takes over the government. And custody hearings are
48:55
Speaker 10: going to change overnight. The judge will say, ordinarily, children
49:01
Speaker 10: belong with their mother. However, according to the Lindsay Clancy precedent,
49:05
Speaker 10: she may be only one hormone away from a Netflix documentary.
49:10
Speaker 10: Kids go to dad. Dad doesn't know their shoe sizes,
49:14
Speaker 10: the pediatrician's name, or which one's allergic to peanuts, but
49:18
Speaker 10: his testosterone has never been successfully used as an insanity defense.
49:23
Speaker 10: Feminists spent a hundred years saying women aren't hysterical, irrational
49:28
Speaker 10: creatures controlled by their biology. And one defense attorney walks
49:32
Speaker 10: into court and says, ladies and gentlemen of the jury,
49:35
Speaker 10: have you considered the uterus? You can't demand equal authority
49:40
Speaker 10: and then ask for discounted accountability.
49:43
Speaker 3: If women want.
49:44
Speaker 9: Equal rights, great.
49:45
Speaker 10: But equal rights come with equal wrongs. Otherwise, that glass
49:50
Speaker 10: ceiling is about to become a padded ceiling.
49:57
Speaker 3: That's one wise grandma right there. Kudos to Abuelita. I
50:01
Speaker 3: think she made some good sense there. At least helped
50:04
Speaker 3: me to kind of get past some of the crazy
50:06
Speaker 3: of this case. Anyway, straight ahead, a couple of your calls.
50:09
Speaker 3: I think we have a call from Gil from Manila, Philippines.
50:13
Speaker 3: So I'm looking forward to that. And, of course, tomorrow
50:17
Speaker 3: we've got Vicky Palladino joining us for our 9-11 show.
50:20
Speaker 3: Happy to be back from Puerto Rico. It's Rich Valdes.
50:23
Speaker 3: Keep it locked right here.
50:25
Speaker 4: This is America. This is America.
50:35
Speaker 9: He's making podcasting great again.
50:38
Speaker 4: This is America with Rich Valdez.
50:43
Speaker 3: All right, familia, welcome back. Rich Valdez, we're going to
50:45
Speaker 3: hit the phones. I understand that we have not only
50:50
Speaker 3: a call from the gila from Manila, Gil from the Philippines,
50:56
Speaker 3: but we also have Gil wanting to sing a song
51:00
Speaker 3: for us. You know, Gil's always good at putting together
51:03
Speaker 3: jokes and funny songs. This one I hear is going
51:05
Speaker 3: to be in Spanish, so I can't wait for that. Plus,
51:07
Speaker 3: we have a call, someone who wants to talk about
51:10
Speaker 3: the differences between men and women, so we'll get to
51:12
Speaker 3: that as well. 877-VALDES1 is the phone number. And without
51:18
Speaker 3: any further ado, let's get our brother, the Gila from Manila,
51:21
Speaker 3: on the line. But before I do, I want to
51:23
Speaker 3: make sure that everybody knows what's going on, right? Because
51:27
Speaker 3: Gil wants to sing his rendition of a song called
51:31
Speaker 3: Ay Mami. And this is an older song from, I
51:37
Speaker 3: don't know, maybe the 80s by Marino Perez. And here's
51:42
Speaker 3: a little bit of what that sounds like. That is
51:47
Speaker 3: Ay Mami by Marino Perez. Now, I'm going to add
51:53
Speaker 3: a little spin to that.
51:55
Speaker 7: We're going to do it in salsa.
51:58
Speaker 3: Because I just came back from Puerto Rico and it's
52:02
Speaker 3: fresh in my mind. a song by Willie Colón and
52:16
Speaker 3: Héctor Lavoe, Aguanile. And I think it's got a good
52:21
Speaker 3: salsa beat for the gila from Manila. So, all right,
52:26
Speaker 3: let's get them on, and let's get this show on
52:29
Speaker 3: the road. Gil from Manila, Philippines. My brother, how are you?
52:34
Speaker 3: Go for it.
52:34
Speaker 1: Yes, this is.
52:35
Speaker 10: The Manila gila from San Antonio. And here he goes.
52:42
Speaker 9: Uno, dos, tres.
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Speaker 3: Hold on. Let me get that track queued up for you, Gilla,
52:48
Speaker 3: so that we can make sure that you have the
52:50
Speaker 3: rhythm that you require. There we go. Let's get the
52:57
Speaker 3: volume right on this.
53:01
Speaker 1: All right.
53:01
Speaker 3: That way it doesn't overpower you. And I am ready
53:08
Speaker 3: when you are.
53:08
Speaker 10: Hi, Mommy Ness. Ay, mami, nes.
53:15
Speaker 8: Republicanos escuchan baldez.
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Speaker 4: Ay, mami, nes.
53:21
Speaker 5: Ay, mami, nes.
53:24
Speaker 3: Todos los magas escuchan baldez.
53:26
Speaker 1: Desde New York hasta.
53:27
Speaker 3: Nevada, esto marcaba llamada.
53:30
Speaker 8: Empatía y empatía por eso lo cantaré.
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Speaker 10: Ay, mami, nes.
53:43
Speaker 1: That was phenomenal.
53:44
Speaker 10: Absolutely phenomenal.
53:47
Speaker 8: Gil, the Gila from Manila.
53:51
Speaker 6: Thank you, my brother.
53:56
Speaker 1: Always a pleasure.
54:13
Speaker 3: All right, now let's go to, what's the name? Sika
54:15
Speaker 3: Bibi from Washington State. Go right ahead. You're on.
54:20
Speaker 6: Hey, Sika Bibi, and I have a lot of shit.
54:23
Speaker 16: Go right ahead.
54:25
Speaker 3: I want to talk about alphas versus betas. That's good.
54:29
Speaker 3: I like that topic, alpha versus beta. Go ahead.
54:32
Speaker 11: President Obama was an alpha, and Trump is a beta.
54:40
Speaker 3: I don't think so. But tell me why. Well, how
54:45
Speaker 3: are those facts? How do you support the claim that
54:48
Speaker 3: Trump is a beta when he's been leading the way
54:51
Speaker 3: on everything? And you've got President Obama who kind of
54:55
Speaker 3: capitulated to Iran, lit up the White House in the
55:00
Speaker 3: colors of the gay hijacked flag. I don't see any
55:06
Speaker 3: real leadership there. Do you?
55:09
Speaker 1: Hello?
55:09
Speaker 9: Crickets?
55:11
Speaker 3: Crickets? Crickets? This is where we should probably have our
55:14
Speaker 3: Michael Jackson queued up for... Beat it. Beat it. I
55:23
Speaker 3: think she dumped me. I don't know if we're dumping her. But,
55:26
Speaker 3: all right. I guess that's all we got for today.
55:28
Speaker 3: But I would love to explore this Alpha, Beta, Obama,
55:33
Speaker 3: Trump conversation a little bit more. Anybody else want to
55:35
Speaker 3: join in on this conversation? I'm game.
55:37
Speaker 9: 800... Nope.
55:37
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55:49
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55:52
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55:56
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55:59
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56:02
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56:09
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56:30
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56:32
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56:35
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56:38
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56:42
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56:45
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56:47
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56:50
Speaker 3: and we will continue this conversation mañana. Hasta la próxima.
56:55
Speaker 3: I always tell you, you've got to stand for something,
56:58
Speaker 3: because if you stand for nothing, you'll fall for anything.
57:01
Speaker 3: And the only thing necessary for evil to triumph is
57:04
Speaker 3: for good people like you to sit there and do nothing.
57:07
Speaker 3: So make sure you do something. Shout out to all
57:09
Speaker 3: of our callers. Again, I enjoyed hearing from Gil. Take care,
57:13
Speaker 3: good night, and God bless you, America. I'm Rich Valdez,
57:16
Speaker 3: and this is America.
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Speaker 4: This is America. This is America.
57:38
Speaker 3: Thank you.
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