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Jags A.M. Podcast Ep. 230 | Minicamp Day 1, Early Standouts & Jaguars' Maturing Offense · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Jack's Am.
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Speaker 2: It's June ninth, and here's a live look at Mandatory
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Speaker 2: Mini Camp. Everybody's here today is kick things off, a
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Speaker 2: three day mandatory mini camp for all the players and
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Speaker 2: coaches on hand as well. I'm Kennannie Stevens, Brian Sexton
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Speaker 2: and John Oser.
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Speaker 1: We're always here, but.
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Speaker 2: It's good to see the players are here as well,
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Speaker 2: and we're gonna go over our big things today. Uh.
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Speaker 2: Obviously the show brought to you by public. We're shopping
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Speaker 2: is a pleasure. Big thing number one is mini camp. Now, John,
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Speaker 2: you are the wise one of us, so please explain. Well,
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Speaker 2: there's a difference between OTA and Mini Camp.
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Speaker 3: Well, if shopping is a public is a pleasure at publics,
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Speaker 3: then being here at Mini Caamp is a pleasure for me. Sure,
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Speaker 3: it's uh, look, there's really no difference Brian, between OTA's
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Speaker 3: which are organized teammate tip In Mini camp it's all unpadded.
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Speaker 3: You can do eleven on eleven work and seven on
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Speaker 3: seven work. The difference is the mandatory part you have
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Speaker 3: to be at Mini camp if you're a player for
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Speaker 3: these three days, you don't have to be at the others. Realistically,
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Speaker 3: these days especially in Florida. Most guys are at the OTAs.
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Speaker 3: You might have an absence or two, but there's really
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Speaker 3: not that much difference. It's three practices out of the
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Speaker 3: what thirteen that they get in this format. I guess
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Speaker 3: the biggest difference is is fans. On Wednesday, it's open
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Speaker 3: to a portion of the fans.
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Speaker 4: It's a little longer, too, right, I mean during OTA's
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Speaker 4: I think they're on six hour clock that they could
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Speaker 4: be here, and I think it's pushed to nine. Could
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Speaker 4: be wrong with that, but it's a little bit longer.
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Speaker 4: It's a little more like a training camp day in
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Speaker 4: that sense that they have a structured schedule that goes
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Speaker 4: into the afternoon. But there's really not a lot of
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Speaker 4: difference in this. It is a good opportunity when you
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Speaker 4: have everyone here. Kai obviously to work to get everybody
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Speaker 4: on the same page. Although I think they've been really
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Speaker 4: happy with the participation rate of the OTAs, so this
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Speaker 4: is just just a different.
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Speaker 1: Week, just another day.
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Speaker 2: I think they've had almost one hundred percent participation as
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Speaker 2: it is. Anyway, we'll go to our second big thing,
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Speaker 2: which is what to watch. So Brian, we've been here
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Speaker 2: for the past couple of weeks watching them in OTAs.
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Speaker 2: But do you look at anything differently or is it
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Speaker 2: just like do you try to move around to different groups?
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Speaker 2: How do you analyze mini camp?
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Speaker 4: Well, listen, I get forward watching receivers catch the ball,
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Speaker 4: I mean, which is about the only dramatic thing that
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Speaker 4: happens on the mini camp field.
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Speaker 5: So you must be really bored.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, listen, I go around and I know you
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Speaker 4: can't judge the offensive line. People roll their eyes, But
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Speaker 4: I like to look at the combinations. Right, who's playing
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Speaker 4: left tackle today? How many young players are mixed in
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Speaker 4: with the first group, trying to get them some reps there.
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Speaker 4: I'm looking to see how the coaches are using players. Again,
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Speaker 4: it's a mini camp setting, but just looking for combinations
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Speaker 4: and trying to get a feel for what they might think. Again,
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Speaker 4: until we get the training camp, this is for them,
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Speaker 4: not for us, And from that perspective, it's just about
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Speaker 4: trying to figure things out and a mental exercise.
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Speaker 6: John.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's really the best way to put it.
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Speaker 3: It's every year on these shows I kind of joke
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Speaker 3: about the meaningless of OTA and the meaningless and neess
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Speaker 3: of OTAs. And when I say that, it's meaningless for us.
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Speaker 5: In terms of evaluation.
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Speaker 3: Realistically, it's not meaningless at all for the players and
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Speaker 3: the coaches who are out there because they're learning, they're
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Speaker 3: trying to get ready. Where it becomes meaningless is when
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Speaker 3: we as observers try to draw something, Oh, he's going
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Speaker 3: to start, because you really can't see that from this
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Speaker 3: What do you watch? I try to watch wide receivers
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Speaker 3: because that's what you can actually see. You watch for
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Speaker 3: the quarterback to really know what he's doing, which Trevor
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Speaker 3: looks like he does.
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Speaker 5: You look for speed, you look for quickness, etc.
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Speaker 3: And then you look through it all with a lens
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Speaker 3: of Okay, now I see this. Let's wait till the
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Speaker 3: pads come on to where you can come sort of
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Speaker 3: close to judging anything that's going on.
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Speaker 2: Or of a final big thing today, which is sneak
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Speaker 2: Peach because as mentioned John, they fans are gonna be
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Speaker 2: able to attend Mini camp tomorrow and I know we've
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Speaker 2: seen a lot of it, but there are some new
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Speaker 2: things for the fantasy in one of which is certainly
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Speaker 2: Brian Thomas Junior a little bit of a resurgence and
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Speaker 2: also just that chemistry building with Trevor Lawrence. So if
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Speaker 2: you're a fan coming tomorrow, what are they gonna see
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Speaker 2: on the field.
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Speaker 5: Well, I I think that's what people will look for.
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Speaker 3: It's uh rarely in OTA's or mini camps do you
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Speaker 3: get such an obvious story. And William Cohen and Trevor
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Speaker 3: Lawrence has has sort of helped that be a story
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Speaker 3: by acknowledging, Yeah, we're trying to get on the same
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Speaker 3: page with BTJ. Uh, that's a priority. Liam has said
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Speaker 3: he likes it. He likes the work that's being done.
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Speaker 5: So watch for that. Uh.
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Speaker 3: Btj's look very good. Parker Washington's look very good. The
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Speaker 3: receivers have a very good rapport with Trevor right now. Uh,
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Speaker 3: that's something to watch. And uh Baseell Tuton's fast.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, he's really fast.
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Speaker 5: Uh.
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Speaker 4: I think if I were coming out to sit in
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Speaker 4: the stands based on, you know, what I had seen
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Speaker 4: from this team since the end of last season, I'd
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Speaker 4: be looking to find out about these tight ends. You know,
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Speaker 4: you keep hearing about thirteen personnel and how the tight
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Speaker 4: end package in the league is growing. Across the league,
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Speaker 4: everyone's wanting to try to replicate what the Rams did.
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Speaker 4: Let me see Borcature and Kozie. Let me see the
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Speaker 4: two young tight ends. I listened to a podcast last
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Speaker 4: week all about the resurgence of the tight end and
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Speaker 4: where they're going, and so I'm gonna watch that because
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Speaker 4: I think it's pretty interesting. I also hear they really
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Speaker 4: like what they've seen from the young defensive tackle from
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Speaker 4: Texas A and m out of Rigs. So let's see
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Speaker 4: what he's got as well. Look at the young guys,
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Speaker 4: just get a feel for him.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, we'll have those available today and we'll have a
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Speaker 2: live camera throughout practice as well. So stay with us
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Speaker 2: here on jag Zam. We're gonna do a little this
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Speaker 2: or that. After the break, go back into jag Zam.
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Speaker 2: Travis Hunter working off to the side there as he
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Speaker 2: continues his rehab cross after knee surgery last season. He's
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Speaker 2: about as involved as you could physically be without doing
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Speaker 2: the drills themselves. At this point, he's like runs up,
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Speaker 2: he's in the huddle, he gets to play, like sets up.
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Speaker 2: He just doesn't always run all every single drill. He's
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Speaker 2: still involved.
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Speaker 3: But for clarification, right now they're warming up, so yeah,
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Speaker 3: so they're not seeing that. But yeah, we've been to
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Speaker 3: what two practices each time. As Kay said, he's in
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Speaker 3: the huddle, he's got a play sheet, he breaks off
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Speaker 3: and he simulates as much as he can. You can't
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Speaker 3: say that he's not trying to be involved with this.
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Speaker 3: And all reports so far as they very pleased with
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Speaker 3: his approach.
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Speaker 4: And I you know, you heard him talk about the
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Speaker 4: weight room and how he spent so much time in
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Speaker 4: the weight room, and it's good to seek use. He's
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Speaker 4: not a huge guy, and in fact, his legs always
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Speaker 4: looked small to me and to hear him talk about
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Speaker 4: the time that he spent in.
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Speaker 6: The weight room. He's a great football player.
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Speaker 4: And now I think he's got a chance really to
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Speaker 4: hold up for entire season when he's got that kind
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Speaker 4: of strength added to him.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we think we he's on track with everything
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Speaker 2: should available by train in camp, so you're ready for
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Speaker 2: the season. We're gonna do a little this or that
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Speaker 2: today as we kind of look ahead to training camp
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Speaker 2: what this team might look like going forward. So Travis
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Speaker 2: Hunt will be coming back, still will be involved in
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Speaker 2: the offense, but what's the pass catcher situation. Obviously Parker
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Speaker 2: Washington had a huge breakout last year, but Jacobi Myer's
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Speaker 2: coming in mid season, a very much trusted target of
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Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence right out of the gate.
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Speaker 1: Who do you think is going to be the top
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Speaker 1: pass catcher at the end of the season for the Jags?
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Speaker 1: Who or someone else could be another name to be named.
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Speaker 4: We've heard about Brian Thomas Junior's resurgence, and he's obviously
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Speaker 4: a very talented guy.
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Speaker 6: Let me put my money on Parker Washington.
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Speaker 4: Because there's been talk about getting a deal done with
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Speaker 4: him John and they obviously haven't agreed to terms right.
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Speaker 6: So Washington is in a sense betting on himself this season.
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Speaker 4: He needs to have a big season to get the
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Speaker 4: kind of money that he thinks he's worthy of, and
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Speaker 4: a lot of other people seem to think that he
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Speaker 4: is as well. He was your go to guy last
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Speaker 4: year down the stretch the game in Denver really that out.
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Speaker 4: So I'll go with Parker Washington because he's always surprised.
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Speaker 4: Every single time that you expect him to make a play,
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Speaker 4: he makes a big play.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think there's a situation.
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Speaker 3: I agree that Parker is wise to bet on himself,
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Speaker 3: and I think the Jaguars are wise to let a
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Speaker 3: bet on himself, because I don't know that you know
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Speaker 3: exactly his value based on Uber production at the end
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Speaker 3: of last year.
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Speaker 5: Is that gonna be consistent?
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Speaker 3: I think ideally the Jaguars people love the fact that
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Speaker 3: that question is there because I think they would love
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Speaker 3: for people not to know who the top pass catcher
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Speaker 3: is gonna be. I think their ideal would be each guy,
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Speaker 3: I don't know what the numbers would be, each guy
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Speaker 3: catching fifty three, you know, BTJ, Washington, Meyers, Strange with
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Speaker 3: Hunter catching you know, if they could get that sort
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Speaker 3: of balance, I think that's what it's gonna be.
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Speaker 5: Who's the top guy? You know?
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Speaker 3: I would love to say, give me four guys catching
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Speaker 3: fifty five with BTJ a huge ye pc.
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Speaker 5: That's the yards per catch that stat's guy over here.
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Speaker 3: But for the sake of argument, I'm gonna go with
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Speaker 3: Jacoby because I think he may be the wide receiver,
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Speaker 3: consistent guy with everybody else making big plays around him.
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Speaker 5: But I think out of those fours can be really
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Speaker 5: really close to the top guy.
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Speaker 4: They gave Jakobe twenty million dollars, so it tells you
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Speaker 4: what they think he is.
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Speaker 2: I think the dark horse here, and I don't think
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Speaker 2: he will necessarily this year, but I think Brenton Strange
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Speaker 2: is gonna have a big impact on the offense this
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Speaker 2: season and I think going forward as well.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, the tight end thing. Adding the tight ends as rookies.
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Speaker 3: Is by flipping or whatever you call it, it's going
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Speaker 3: to really help Brenton Strange be a premier, elite tight end.
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Speaker 3: You may see him all Pro Pro Bowl type guy
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Speaker 3: with the opportunities gonna have in this offense.
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Speaker 2: In terms of competition, that's always what we talk about
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Speaker 2: in training camp. Different position groups have different levels of
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Speaker 2: but I think one of the more packed terms for
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Speaker 2: me is the defensive backs, but also the defensive line.
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Speaker 2: There's a lot of additions, some of them undrafted free agents.
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Speaker 2: We saw some success from the undrafted guys last year,
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Speaker 2: but they added Albert Regis to the defensive line this year.
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Speaker 2: Those are just two groups I had in mind. But
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Speaker 2: who do you think is gonna be the most competitive? Well,
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Speaker 2: what do you think is gonna be the most competitive
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Speaker 2: position group when it comes to training camp?
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Speaker 5: John, That's a good question.
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Speaker 3: Uh, I would say, I'll I'll go dB here because
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Speaker 3: I think how it looks is maybe gonna be the
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Speaker 3: most interesting I don't know if that competition. I don't
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Speaker 3: know that there's gonna be Oh my goodness, this guy got.
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Speaker 5: Cut during camp. I'm so surprised.
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Speaker 3: But I think how it looks is gonna be very
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Speaker 3: interesting with safety Antonio Johnson, Ransaw and uh Eric Murray.
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Speaker 5: How that looks. I think there's gonna be the three guys.
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Speaker 3: I don't know that it matters to them who quote starts,
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Speaker 3: who wins the competition to be a starter. I think
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Speaker 3: realisticly you're gonna have three starters. Travis Hunter, How is
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Speaker 3: that gonna look?
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Speaker 5: Travis?
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Speaker 3: You know, with monetic opposite Jarian and Jordan Lewis might
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Speaker 3: be the good competition back there. Again, I think they
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Speaker 3: know their bunch.
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Speaker 5: How does it look? Will be interesting in training camp.
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Speaker 4: I'll go with the defensive line Regis, I screwed that
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Speaker 4: up in the first block. Apologies to the family, Albert
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Speaker 4: Regis with rookie a Row Row row right. Yeah, those
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Speaker 4: two guys coming in create a different dynamic behind Devon
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Speaker 4: Hamilton and Eric Armstead, and I like the depth that
11:37
Speaker 4: they've created there. And then obviously you know what you've
11:39
Speaker 4: got with forty one and forty four, and you add
11:43
Speaker 4: shrig Au and Green back to the mix this year,
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Speaker 4: and both of those guys look a bit bigger, have
11:48
Speaker 4: looked again against air but explosive, like the weight room.
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Speaker 6: Has been a gift to them.
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Speaker 4: And now you bring in Wesley Williams, who is a
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Speaker 4: big guy and plays hard. I mean the way that
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Speaker 4: he practice since I expect that's the way that he plays,
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Speaker 4: and that is effort, effort, effort. When you've got a
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Speaker 4: group like that, I think it's gonna be a really
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Speaker 4: competitive room.
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Speaker 3: And I'm Johnna a blank on the seventh round pick
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Speaker 3: from Washington. H me too again, Johnna Blank.
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Speaker 6: We Shi learning the.
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Speaker 5: Green and Strie are big stories last.
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Speaker 3: Year, and in a lot of situations that I've been around,
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Speaker 3: the team would have assumed that those two guys were
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Speaker 3: going to develop and were going to be like the
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Speaker 3: third defensive end.
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Speaker 5: Uh. This team doesn't take that approach.
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Speaker 3: So Syrio and Green good stories, who both can play
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Speaker 3: in the.
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Speaker 5: NFL, by the way, and both are going to play
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Speaker 5: a long time.
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Speaker 3: They are going to be pushed, and that's the spirit
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Speaker 3: of what this team tries to do.
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Speaker 5: They do not allow complacency.
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Speaker 2: Durfy's Prospect X, which was the player that they were
12:53
Speaker 2: kind of well.
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Speaker 5: Prospect X is what threw me. That's why I couldn't go.
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Speaker 2: Yes, I mean all the mysteries shrouded around him, but
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Speaker 2: the most underrated prospect according to UESBMS and.
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Speaker 5: On this show event in apologies to prospects.
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Speaker 4: Well, clearly one of our missions this week is to
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Speaker 4: get to know these guys, these young guys, and put
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Speaker 4: names and faces together so that when we get to
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Speaker 4: training camp we know Project X.
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Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about expectations.
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Speaker 2: Obviously well ahead of what was probably expected out of
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Speaker 2: Liam Cullen in his first year as a head coach,
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Speaker 2: but what's reasonable to expect this year? Is it just
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Speaker 2: getting into the playoffs? Is it having a better record,
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Speaker 2: because thirteen and four is pretty hard to outdo. Because John,
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Speaker 2: I think we've talked about this a little bit, it's
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Speaker 2: almost like they might be better but have not as
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Speaker 2: good of a record this year. Yeah, it's a distinct possibility.
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Speaker 3: Look, playoff appearance is clearly an expectation when you go
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Speaker 3: thirteen and four with a young team with an ascending quarterback.
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Speaker 3: I don't think anybody, certainly inside the building, anybody looking
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Speaker 3: at this team who really follows It doesn't expect that.
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Speaker 3: To me, the storyline for this season will be do
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Speaker 3: they follow up?
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Speaker 5: Have not made back to back playoff appearance since ninety
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Speaker 5: eight ninety nine? Have they?
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Speaker 3: Do they follow it up with a season where they
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Speaker 3: are handling those contending expectations and look like a team
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Speaker 3: that's gonna be there seven out of the next eight year.
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Speaker 3: Y be a long term contending team with a chance
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Speaker 3: every year. To me, there's not that much difference between
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Speaker 3: eleven and six and thirteen and four and fourteen and three.
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Speaker 3: I mean, and obviously it's in terms of playoff stuff,
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Speaker 3: but injuries can happen, but it it needs for the
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Speaker 3: first time in a long time to be a solid
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Speaker 3: franchise that follows up something like last year with contending
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Speaker 3: and then you're going into twenty seven. Yes, this is
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Speaker 3: a solid you know, they haven't been that in two
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Speaker 3: and a half decades.
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Speaker 4: Bryan, listen, I'll go all in on this and tell
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Speaker 4: you I I there were one flag in Cincinnati from
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Speaker 4: hosting m the AFC playoffs.
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Speaker 6: One flag.
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Speaker 4: Now things have to play out the way that they
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Speaker 4: do and you can't just blanket statement that. But I
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Speaker 4: look at the best teams in the AFC, and I
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Speaker 4: look at Denver and New England and both of them
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Speaker 4: have question marks about where they're at it. They're not
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Speaker 4: the Chiefs of Old right. I expect this team to
15:18
Speaker 4: contend in the AFC. I mean I expect them to
15:20
Speaker 4: be there at the end this year for a couple
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Speaker 4: of reasons. One, I think the quarterback is real. Two,
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Speaker 4: I think that the roster is very good. I love
15:28
Speaker 4: the coaching staff's approach. I love the way that they've
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Speaker 4: built this team. I think this is as good a
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Speaker 4: team as there is in the AFC. Now they got
15:35
Speaker 4: to go. They're gonna bear that out. They've got to
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Speaker 4: stay healthy. They need Travis Hunter all season long. Their
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Speaker 4: quarterback does have to play at that high level. They've
15:42
Speaker 4: got to be better at running the football. They know
15:44
Speaker 4: all of these things, they've identified them. They have been
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Speaker 4: very transparent with where they work to get better. I
15:50
Speaker 4: think this coach is terrific. It's not as strong enough
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Speaker 4: adjective to describe his play design and his play calling
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Speaker 4: and the way that he puts things together. And I
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Speaker 4: think this team is as good as any in the AFC,
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Speaker 4: and I expect them to be in contention for the
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Speaker 4: whole ball of wax.
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Speaker 5: And there should be the expectation. Everybody's talking about the losses.
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Speaker 3: To me, there were no significant losses in the off
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Speaker 3: season that shouldn't significant enough to affect uh where this
16:17
Speaker 3: team is in terms of their power or or or
16:21
Speaker 3: their potential. And any expectations were created last year very
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Speaker 3: legitimately by if you're going down a list of in
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Speaker 3: the off season of who you think the contenders in
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Speaker 3: the AFC might be.
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Speaker 5: Okay, you expect the Chiefs.
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Speaker 3: To be back, the Broncos, Patriots, Texans, Chargers, UH, Ravens,
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Speaker 3: and Steelers, right, you.
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Speaker 6: Know that group seems like a reasonable list.
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Speaker 3: But beat the Chargers, to beat the Broncos, to beat
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Speaker 3: the Texans once, let you know, and the Chiefs. Every
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Speaker 3: other team who's making these kind of lists, if they
16:51
Speaker 3: don't know the Jaguars on it, they're missing it. So
16:55
Speaker 3: they're one of those teams. And there's no reason you
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Speaker 3: shouldn't have playoff expectations.
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Speaker 4: And I do think in and this gets overlooked, the
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Speaker 4: Jagars last year won thirteen games, guy, and they didn't
17:06
Speaker 4: radically overhaul the roster. I mean, Liam and Basselli and
17:09
Speaker 4: Gladstone came in and they brought in Robert Hainsey and
17:12
Speaker 4: Jordan Lewis and some guys, But I mean no one
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Speaker 4: was pointing and going, well, that's what's going to get
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Speaker 4: him over the top. They were really solid contributors all
17:19
Speaker 4: season long, but they took the roster that won four
17:21
Speaker 4: and they turned it into thirteen on the strength of
17:24
Speaker 4: a vision of a standard of the way that they
17:26
Speaker 4: went about it.
17:28
Speaker 6: Now this year, they did add.
17:29
Speaker 4: Some players and put some pieces in place through the
17:33
Speaker 4: draft that they think.
17:34
Speaker 6: Will significantly help them.
17:35
Speaker 4: They shape this roster more closely to the one that
17:38
Speaker 4: they wanted, and I think that'll be a big difference
17:40
Speaker 4: for him this year.
17:41
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's about consistency at this point and what we've
17:44
Speaker 2: seen they've been able to do continuing that, right, we
17:47
Speaker 2: see Trevor Lawrence finally finding his own the last two
17:50
Speaker 2: months of the season, but now carrying that over into
17:52
Speaker 2: this season.
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Speaker 3: That's really hege And it's a fair thing for fans
17:56
Speaker 3: who have been a fan of this team for a
17:57
Speaker 3: long time to go in with some breath holding U
18:01
Speaker 3: going in because you haven't seen back to back double
18:04
Speaker 3: digit you know, make you feel good about the franchise
18:08
Speaker 3: seasons in not twenty five years. I have zero doubt
18:13
Speaker 3: that they're gonna be that kind of a team, but
18:16
Speaker 3: they have.
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Speaker 5: To show it. And that's the huge storyline this year.
18:19
Speaker 3: After this season, or you're looking at this thing and
18:22
Speaker 3: feeling like it did in the nineties where it's like, Okay,
18:24
Speaker 3: they're gonna contend when they're on the you know, if
18:28
Speaker 3: if nothing goes wrong, this should be one of the
18:29
Speaker 3: best teams in the AFC.
18:30
Speaker 6: Was it that Lilliam said.
18:31
Speaker 4: I think it was at the owners meetings that they
18:32
Speaker 4: didn't want the Stenship winning to overshadow, which I thought
18:36
Speaker 4: was a really interesting way to put it. Hey, you won,
18:38
Speaker 4: but you can't let that permeate. That was then, this
18:41
Speaker 4: is now and he's been dog getting determined in keeping
18:44
Speaker 4: this team focused forward and not on what they did
18:46
Speaker 4: last year.
18:46
Speaker 2: There's no talk of defending, that is for sure. It's
18:49
Speaker 2: all about attacking and seeing what they can do this season.
18:52
Speaker 2: To say, with the Sun Dagsam, we're gonna answer some
18:54
Speaker 2: of the fan questions as the break.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to JAG's Aam time for ozone mailbag.
19:14
Speaker 2: John's gonna shares wisdom with us and answer some of
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Speaker 2: the fan questions.
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Speaker 1: So we're gonna start I like.
19:19
Speaker 5: It or not.
19:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, something's gonna happen. So Charles from Riverside has the
19:23
Speaker 1: first one.
19:23
Speaker 2: He says, it seeming the Jags got way better at
19:25
Speaker 2: eliminating all the pre snap motion false starts and illegal
19:29
Speaker 2: formation penalties as the offense matured. So what does this
19:32
Speaker 2: pre snap motion accomplish and why is it such an
19:34
Speaker 2: important part of Liam Cohen's system.
19:36
Speaker 3: Yeah, this was sort of a tricky question because it's
19:40
Speaker 3: it's hard to answer something like this when the answer
19:42
Speaker 3: is sort of everything right, Like it's if the pre
19:48
Speaker 3: snap motion, if the Jaguars do, basically tells the quarterback
19:53
Speaker 3: what the defense is gonna do. And when you see
19:56
Speaker 3: them go to the line and Trevor's motioning.
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Speaker 5: The rest of the offense, they're not talking about dinner planes,
20:04
Speaker 5: you know they are. I it is Trevor saying, Okay,
20:07
Speaker 5: this is what we've seen.
20:09
Speaker 3: Now we're canning this play and going to the next play,
20:12
Speaker 3: or we're sticking with this play.
20:15
Speaker 5: The reason it was an issue last.
20:17
Speaker 3: Year earlier, everybody remembers that a lot of prestat penalty,
20:21
Speaker 3: everybody getting frustrated and The reason Liam didn't go away
20:24
Speaker 3: from that is because it's really the offensive superpower who
20:28
Speaker 3: is without it, All of a sudden, you're going to
20:31
Speaker 3: the line without that inherent edge of seeing what the
20:35
Speaker 3: defense is doing and calling a play toward that weakness.
20:39
Speaker 3: So without being snide about it, it's everything. And when
20:45
Speaker 3: you see Trevor making those cans, where they really liked
20:50
Speaker 3: his progress early last year was he was calling the
20:53
Speaker 3: right plays at the line very quickly. So it's everything,
20:57
Speaker 3: y I even if they have tons of pre snap
21:00
Speaker 3: motions or penalties, A lot of coach in that situation
21:04
Speaker 3: last year would have tried to pull out of that,
21:07
Speaker 3: and I think Liam very much so and correctly. It
21:10
Speaker 3: was like, look, guys, we got to do this. This
21:12
Speaker 3: is going to make us very very good, and it
21:14
Speaker 3: did by the end of last year you can see
21:16
Speaker 3: the results.
21:16
Speaker 4: But Liam comes from the Shanahan tree, and back in
21:19
Speaker 4: the late nineties, you remember when John Elway was there
21:21
Speaker 4: in Denver with Mike Shanahan. I mean they created mismatches
21:25
Speaker 4: with personnel groups like few other teams could. And I
21:28
Speaker 4: think I've said on the show a couple of times,
21:30
Speaker 4: I always like watching the San Francisco forty nine ers.
21:32
Speaker 6: Hardon me because the Niners and Kyle.
21:35
Speaker 4: Shanahan do such great things with motion and create the
21:38
Speaker 4: kind of mismatches that allow them to take advantage. And
21:41
Speaker 4: I think that's what Liam Cohen does. Very simplistic, but
21:43
Speaker 4: they're trying to figure out where the greatest advantage for
21:45
Speaker 4: the offense is by getting Parker Washington if they can
21:49
Speaker 4: lined up on a slower linebacker.
21:50
Speaker 5: YEA.
21:51
Speaker 3: A scheme in play calling is not always the end all,
21:56
Speaker 3: but when you're special at something, which Liam is at this, yup,
22:00
Speaker 3: it is something. And for Liam, the way he calls
22:03
Speaker 3: plays you saw at the end of last year there
22:05
Speaker 3: was uh high end stuff going on. He's cutting edge
22:10
Speaker 3: of what the NFL is doing right now, and the
22:12
Speaker 3: pre snap stuff is a big part of it.
22:14
Speaker 5: It's that's why we're talking about it.
22:15
Speaker 1: And it operates as we've discussed before.
22:17
Speaker 2: So much autonomy is given to Trevor Lawrence to conduct
22:20
Speaker 2: this and and make those calls at the line and
22:22
Speaker 2: getting everybody on the same page so communication. They worked
22:26
Speaker 2: on it looking better towards the end, and I imagine
22:28
Speaker 2: it'll look even better going forward.
22:29
Speaker 3: I think it's d maybe one real key that you
22:33
Speaker 3: see at the beginning of the season, you how do
22:36
Speaker 3: you want it to look?
22:38
Speaker 5: That's how you want it to look. I'm sure Lee
22:39
Speaker 5: would tell you. Look, we wanted to look much.
22:42
Speaker 3: More efficient pre snap at the end of it they
22:44
Speaker 3: did the end of the beginning of last year.
22:47
Speaker 5: A And I'd be stunned if it's.
22:48
Speaker 2: Not all right. Steve from Nashville wants to know, John, Oh,
22:52
Speaker 2: Let's tell are you aware of a list anywhere that
22:55
Speaker 2: shows the former Jaguars players who went on to win
22:57
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl with another team, Seattle Seahawks kicker Jason
23:00
Speaker 2: Myers being the latest addition to said list, if said
23:04
Speaker 2: list exists.
23:04
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not sure there's a list.
23:06
Speaker 3: And this is always kind of a thing, Brian, that
23:09
Speaker 3: always kind of surprises me every time, Like and it's
23:13
Speaker 3: it sort of stems from fifteen or twenty five years
23:16
Speaker 3: of not achieving as much as the franchise as fans wanted.
23:19
Speaker 5: Which stopped last year.
23:21
Speaker 3: Uh, guys get cut from NFL teams these days cause
23:25
Speaker 3: of free instin salary calf and they go on to
23:27
Speaker 3: other teams. Sometimes those guys go on and they contribute
23:32
Speaker 3: a Super Bowl champion. There's been guys I mean, uh,
23:35
Speaker 3: backup quarterback was a deal for a long time.
23:37
Speaker 5: Gabbert got a ring, the left which got a ring,
23:39
Speaker 5: but now got a ring.
23:41
Speaker 3: I've never considered this topic as big a deal as
23:44
Speaker 3: like some fans do.
23:45
Speaker 5: Yeah, Jason Myers got a ring. I I Jason Myers
23:47
Speaker 5: a good kid. Uh, good for him. He can put
23:49
Speaker 5: it on his shelf.
23:49
Speaker 6: Let me tell you the first one. It was Desmond Howard.
23:51
Speaker 4: If you recall, jag Wars cut him in nineteen ninety
23:53
Speaker 4: six and he signed on with the Green Bay and
23:55
Speaker 4: one one the very next year.
23:57
Speaker 6: Uh, Josh Wells comes to mind.
23:58
Speaker 4: He left here and went to Tampa and won a
24:01
Speaker 4: Super Bowl ring with those Tom Brady teams. There are
24:03
Speaker 4: a handful of guys in terms of premier players.
24:08
Speaker 3: It's not like there's been a lot of guys go
24:10
Speaker 3: on that the team has released. And well, Jayleen Ramsey
24:15
Speaker 3: all of a sudden become a huge, huge part of
24:18
Speaker 3: that next too, and Jalen was kind of the outlier
24:21
Speaker 3: on that. And so they've probably picked up more big
24:25
Speaker 3: free agents who have contributed really than I think they've
24:28
Speaker 3: lost over the years. I don't have a list, but
24:32
Speaker 3: it feels like that writing Klais and Clays was, you know,
24:35
Speaker 3: big time reason they won. I can't remember that many
24:37
Speaker 3: guys who've gone on and been like huge reasons teams
24:40
Speaker 3: have been good elsewhere, but there's probably a list somewhere.
24:42
Speaker 4: Kyle Brady went was a part of that undefeated Patriots
24:45
Speaker 4: team that lost to the super Bowl.
24:47
Speaker 6: So it's happened.
24:48
Speaker 1: All right, We're gonna close this out with Josh from
24:50
Speaker 1: Green Bay.
24:50
Speaker 2: He says, what would you say is your favorite football quote?
24:55
Speaker 2: A few that come to mind for me are playoffs
24:58
Speaker 2: by Jim Mora. Of course just win Baby by Al Davis,
25:01
Speaker 2: and of course Bam by John Matten.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
25:04
Speaker 3: I mean there's a lot, Uh you play to win
25:08
Speaker 3: the game. Uh, they are what they thought we were.
25:11
Speaker 3: Or Dennis Gram I remember watching that. No, you know,
25:15
Speaker 3: those are the fun stuff. I was actually at the
25:18
Speaker 3: press conference where Jim Moore, based on you know, famously
25:21
Speaker 3: said playoffs, playoffs, and I loved Jim so th it
25:25
Speaker 3: was I you know, uh, he was much more than
25:29
Speaker 3: that quote, but you get defined by those moments. My
25:33
Speaker 3: favorite is, uh from offensive coordinator Tom Moore when I
25:35
Speaker 3: was with the Colts, where he famously said, hey, uh,
25:38
Speaker 3: you know if we lose Peyton, we're not in good shape,
25:44
Speaker 3: and we don't practice not in good shape and you
25:46
Speaker 3: can insert, uh, the proper word.
25:49
Speaker 5: Dirty word.
25:50
Speaker 3: But so that's really the best one, I mean, and
25:52
Speaker 3: it it summed up tom of uh very meat and potatoes.
25:57
Speaker 3: Very Hey, this is what we're doing. H he was
25:59
Speaker 3: very real football. That's my favorite. I'm sure there's others.
26:03
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, you could grab Dncel Lombardi and just go.
26:05
Speaker 4: It's a laundry list of Lombardi quotes through the years. Yeah.
26:08
Speaker 2: I know.
26:09
Speaker 4: When I was in college, I used to work at
26:10
Speaker 4: a CBS station in Kansas City and I would stay
26:12
Speaker 4: late on Sundays to get the my Dick of feed
26:15
Speaker 4: from Chicago because Mike Dick was always good at every
26:18
Speaker 4: press conference for something.
26:19
Speaker 6: But I'll go with John McKay, the.
26:22
Speaker 4: Coach of the Buccaneers in their expansion season and for
26:25
Speaker 4: a couple of seasons after that. And he was asked
26:27
Speaker 4: at one point because remember they lost twenty six straight
26:29
Speaker 4: games before they won their first game, and he was
26:32
Speaker 4: asked about his team's execution, and he said, I'm all
26:35
Speaker 4: for it, right, And then to follow up, he said,
26:38
Speaker 4: what do you think about your team's tackling. He said, well,
26:40
Speaker 4: we tackled poorly today, but we made up for it
26:42
Speaker 4: by not blocking. I mean, there's just there's this incredible
26:45
Speaker 4: stuff from coaches all the time. They're always had these guys,
26:49
Speaker 4: especially the crusty old ones who've been around the league
26:51
Speaker 4: for a long time.
26:51
Speaker 6: They're always with these quips in one liners.
26:54
Speaker 4: And you could write a whole book, I mean a
26:56
Speaker 4: thousand pages of NFL coaches quotes.
26:59
Speaker 6: But I always thought thought that the guy who.
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Speaker 4: Could kind of laugh at himself and his team, you know,
27:02
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, kind of just a
27:04
Speaker 4: little quip here and there when things weren't good was
27:07
Speaker 4: my favorite.
27:08
Speaker 3: And my favorite player growing up was John Riggins. Oh yeah,
27:11
Speaker 3: I played for Washington and after a loss they were
27:14
Speaker 3: really good eighty three I think it was they lost
27:18
Speaker 3: a Green Bay forty eight forty seven. After the game,
27:20
Speaker 3: he said, sometimes you eat the bear, sometimes the bear
27:22
Speaker 3: eats you.
27:23
Speaker 6: Yeah, here we go.
27:25
Speaker 2: I don't give the Jets credit a ton, but I
27:26
Speaker 2: think I'm gonna go with her. Edwards, you play the
27:29
Speaker 2: way the game because that's why you play. You played
27:31
Speaker 2: the win the game. Jaguars are taking part in mandatory
27:35
Speaker 2: Mini Camp right now. Fans are gonna be filling the
27:37
Speaker 2: stands tomorrow, day two to get a chance to look
27:40
Speaker 2: at the team for the first time the season before
27:43
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Speaker 1: And tomorrow the fans.
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Speaker 2: Get a sneak peek as well because Mini Camp is
28:21
Speaker 2: gonna be open. There's three days in Mini camp starts today,
28:24
Speaker 2: as we mentioned, a little bit longer a practice, but
28:27
Speaker 2: in the mornings of Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday, everybody's in house.
28:30
Speaker 2: We'll get to see everybody working together.
28:32
Speaker 5: Yeah, and the Wednesday Mini camp open. It is pretty
28:35
Speaker 5: cool thing. Not all teams do that.
28:37
Speaker 3: Uh, we haven't done it all the time here, Uh
28:40
Speaker 3: so j again, this regime as we call it has
28:44
Speaker 3: been pretty transparent and try to be fan friendly whenever
28:47
Speaker 3: it can.
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Speaker 5: Uh So, it's pretty cool thing.
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Speaker 4: Long Yeah, and people who haven't been down here will
28:52
Speaker 4: get to see the construction at the stadium and how
28:54
Speaker 4: the steal is going up.
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