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Episode 7: Mindful Drinking — All About Choice · Brew Tox with Scott & Scott

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Welcome to Brutons with Scott Scott.
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Bruton box like detox only taste you.
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I'm Bill Scott. And I'm Scott Smithson.
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And this is a podcast that celebrates alcohol free beer.
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Hey Scott, you know what the German word Tierra bien dear
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beer means? What you mean?
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You mean the word faya abbia? Oh, whatever.
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You know, I'm going to put your languages that aren't my second
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language. It means the beer you drink
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after work. Not a beer.
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The beer. We don't have a word like that
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in English. But here's the thing.
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We're not just talking about What exists in one language is
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reality and what doesn't exist in another.
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This is very deep. Quite quite matter here.
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I know, maybe we should get on to talking about some of the
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other stuff. Last time we were talking a lot
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about language, right? Yeah, we talked about the whole
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idea about alcohol free versus non alcoholic and all that, you
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know how that's sort of interchangeable and we do that
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and make that mistake, not mistake, but the idea that you
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can say either and and we talked and we talked a little bit
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hinted on some of the other terminology that is out there
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surrounding alcohol free drinking.
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Yeah, I think we talked about maybe coming back to that again
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and and having some more conversation about it all.
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I guess what it is for me is it all sort of falls under what
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whatever term you want to use, whether it's alcohol free beer,
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die alcohol, ice beer, non alcoholic beer and whatever else
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that you want to call those beers.
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To me, it's about, you know, the intention that you have behind
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what you're doing. And I think there's a real
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movement now that's becoming more and more mainstream about
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Wellness and mindfulness. And, and I would prefer to think
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of all of this as mindful drinking.
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And mindful drinking and I and I have heard that term, that term
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is something that's, that's being used quite a bit.
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It's, you know, pretty descriptive, you know, the
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height like you touched on there, mindfulness, which people
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are very aware of what that means.
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And mindful drinking is the same, just being aware of what
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you're drinking in a in a health conscious way I suppose.
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Yeah. You know, I think sometimes we
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get caught up in in situations where, you know, we go on
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autopilot. I give you an example, and it's
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not about beer, it's about coffee.
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I remember when I first started drinking coffee on the job.
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I was in a job where we did a lot of coffee drinking in the
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morning and there was always a pot in the coffee room.
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So you'd go down and you pour yourself a cup of coffee.
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You'd still be talking to somebody.
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You'd be drinking coffee, didn't even think about it.
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And. And you'd be pouring another
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one, right. My stomach started giving me all
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kinds of problems. Yeah.
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And so I went to the doctor and he said, how much coffee you're
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drinking? I had no idea.
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So one day I got somebody else to monitor it for me.
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I was drinking 6 cups a day. And not even really knowing.
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Didn't even really notice it. So after that I started to drink
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this instant coffee stuff, which was more mindful because I had
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to go down to the other room, not the coffee pot in the lunch
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room, turn on the kettle, pour out the coffee into the cup and
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mix it up a little bit, right? And became more mindful.
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More aware of what you're of what you're doing.
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Absolutely. And yeah, I've been there too.
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Like drinking more coffee and just having one sitting there on
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my desk and maybe coming. Yeah, there was a this is a kind
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of funny story it on that same topic.
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It I just thought about this. I'd teacher at school.
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I was teaching. We both took our coffee the same
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way and we taught one another's classes and we would leave our
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coffee and then one of us would walk over and just pick up
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whichever cut. We didn't even think about it
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because it just carry on drinking this cup of coffee and
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it was 1 anothers coffee invariably.
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And totally, you know, kind of like you just non conscious.
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Yeah. And I think what the alcohol
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free beer movement is all about is getting a little more
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conscious about what we're taking into our bodies in terms
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of, you know, alcohol. And, you know, we know that
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alcohol turns into sugar and lots of people are having issues
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with carbohydrates in their diet and and so on.
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So, you know, I think it really is a different way to approach
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having a beer. Exactly like you said, being
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being aware, there's that term that I've heard and we've talked
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about that a little bit about being sober curious.
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That term coined, I don't know, a few years ago by a writer by
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the name of Ruby Warrington, coined the sober curious term
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and I guess has a book out I kind of like to read that
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actually about being just curious about what does that
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even mean and then educating oneself on what are the options
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out there, right? I think that that's a really
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critical word, actually being curious.
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I mean, being curious about whether the amount of alcohol
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you're taking in is what you want to, you know, being curious
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about whether there are other alternatives available to you
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that you know, you think are going to be every bit as tasty.
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And you and I have found several alcohol free beers that
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definitely fit in that category of being extremely tasty.
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Sure, like I, I've been honestly in this whole journey, Bill,
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I've been pleasantly surprised of how good some of the alcohol
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free beers have been that we've tried, you know, not you know,
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of course, because our starting point was.
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Modules. So, so everything else from
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there was better, but, and we've had, we've had some that aren't
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as good as others, but some have been just fantastic.
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I had one last night that was really good and we'll hopefully
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touch on that. It was a sober Carpenter.
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It was a really good one. So anyway.
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There's that word again. Sober, right?
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Yeah. Right.
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Yeah. You know, I mean, and, and I
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think that part of it too, is that we sometimes the pendulum
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swings too far, right. You know, you hear people often
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talking about, oh, let's go for dry January.
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How many times have you heard people's New Year's resolution
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being I'm not drinking for the entire month of January after a
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New Year's Bender? Exactly.
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And it's just like it's an all or none, like OK, let's just cut
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it all out. Dry January, dry July, sober
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October. I kind of like that, just the
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rhyming of it. And it's, it seems like kind of
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the wrong time with Oktoberfest. I'm thinking Sober October is
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not really popular in Germany, but no.
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Although maybe it is now because we know that the Germans make a
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lot of alcohol. Free.
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Yeah, they said 8 to 10%. Of their or there you go.
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So maybe maybe sober October is big during Oktoberfest, who
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knows, right. So, but that is kind of like you
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said, it's sort of that all or none, right?
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That's it's that New Year's resolution that's just sort of
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made to be broken almost. You're kind of setting yourself
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up almost for failure. Yeah, right.
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It's interesting because that whole New Year's resolution
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piece fits into this as well, right?
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Because that's typically when people make the resolution that
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they're going to exercise five times a week at the gym or
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they're going to stop eating carbohydrates or whatever it is
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that they're doing. And usually it lasts for about a
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week and then they go back to their usual diet.
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It's interesting. I read a journal article and
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they were talking about cancer patients specifically, but they
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were extrapolating that to people with variety of
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illnesses. And they said 90% of people who
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have been informed that unless they change their lifestyle,
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they're going to die. OK, Continue with their old
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lifestyle anyway. Well, yeah, I get it.
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Because you don't like to be told what to do, right?
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Right. It's better to kind of offer
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choices like these are what you could do, put it out there like
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that, right? Kind of back to mindfulness,
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mindful drinking, right? The extending from dry January
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to what they call damp January, right?
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Where you know what, it's OK to drink every once in a while,
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right? It that's fine.
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You and I, we still have the odd real beer.
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Absolutely. Right.
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I still like it. I just don't drink as much as I
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did. And again, we've said this,
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we're not like drinking all the time, but I I'm just more
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mindful of it. Yeah, I'll have if I go out,
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I'll have a beer and then maybe I'll have, you know, a alcohol
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free beer. Yeah, right.
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So. I think the key is real choices
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too, right? And it reminds me of something
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my poor daughter went through with her grandmother.
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And we only heard about this years later.
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But apparently when we took our daughter over to visit with the
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grandparents, and then my wife and I would go out for dinner or
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whatever they would be, we told them that we didn't believe in
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physical discipline. And we said, you know, make sure
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that you give our daughter choices.
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And So what we heard they used to say was, Kelly, would you
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like to do what we've asked you to do?
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Or would you like a spanking? Well, like, I guess that's a
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choice. But it's a choice.
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But is it a real? Is it a real choice?
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Perhaps a little. Different.
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So, you know, I, I really do think that we need to educate
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people and hopefully that's what we're going through this
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podcast, but people need to have real choices and all this
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talking. I've got to tell you, Scott,
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making me really thirsty. So you're choosing to have a
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drink, but you're saying OK, well couple OK in the fridge.
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And last time we had and our last episode we had a Sapporo,
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which was an alcohol free beer. That's right.
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I have two in the fridge here. One of them is a non alcoholic
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beer and the other one is that D alcohol lized beer.
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OK, so I'll bring them both out or I'll show them to you.
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OK, and you can tell me which one.
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Which one do you want to try? OK, well C10 whistle there and
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and both of us lived in Penticton at the time and that's
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where tin whistle is from. So let's let's try the tin
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whistle one first, OK? We'll try that.
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We'll try the tin whistle. Do you want to read what it says
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on there? And I'll get our frosty glasses.
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Absolutely. So this is the Tim Whistle Peach
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Cream Ale in the 16 ounce can and the 16 ounce can was what
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are we looking at here? We're looking for calories.
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It has 150 calories. So this is a little higher end
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on the calories, but we found that with craft beers they tend
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to be a little higher even with alcohol beer as well.
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That's surprising actually though that it's that it's that
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high 150. Yeah.
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But you know, one of the things that we've discovered too is
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that they often are a little bit tastier because they're not as
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as light. So let's find out if that one
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makes it. So this one was I was in
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Penticton a few weeks ago and Tin Whistle has a Peach free
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male that is sort of their their iconic beer from from that
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brewery, a small little brewery in particular.
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Well, not small. It's been around for a while and
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they've had on tap quite a few different alcohol free beers.
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This being one of them, the Peach cream ale, non alcoholic
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or de alcohol lized. So I was when I was in Pantech
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and we were wandering around with my parents and going to
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couple places see what we could find.
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And I was pretty sure I'd remembered that they had this,
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but I thought it was just on tap.
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They just recently put it into cans and I had a great
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opportunity the talk to the brewmaster at tin whistle and
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she was great talking to me. It was her name was Alexis and
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she was so she just knew so much about the whole process and
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about the history of of this beer and that they're and
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they're trying hard to produce some other de alcohol lized now
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it is interesting that it's D they label it D alcoholic used.
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It's the same as the the non-alcoholic ones.
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It's 0.5. They they call I think they
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refer to it as their 0 Peach 0.5 beer.
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But she said had to be called labeled de alcohol lized for
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there was legal. Because of their processing obit
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because they probably allowed it to go through and then took the
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alcohol out which would be de alcohol used as opposed to
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alcohol free never having the alcohol in to begin with.
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But this is interesting because they can't be the only ones that
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are doing that. So it was and it is the only one
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that I've seen recently when since we've been doing this that
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is, you know, I'm talking a lot here.
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I should at least open this, so here we.
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Go. While you're doing that, let me
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let me tell you a dad joke. OK.
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What's a linguist's favorite alcohol free beer?
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A linguist's favorite alcohol free beer?
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Go what? An IPA.
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They love breaking down the phonetics.
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Huh. Just wait an IPAIPA.
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IPA, They love breaking down the linguistics.
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I know you don't get it, but that's the nature of dad jokes.
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OK, it was a dad joke. You're not supposed to get it.
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OK, start pouring. I'm glad I wasn't.
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OK. Notice your nose, your little
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glass there. Oh yes, it's from Tin Whistle.
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Right. I, I sort of, I didn't steal it.
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I actually asked for it because we were having some samples
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there. And I did ask the brewmaster.
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I said, oh, can I keep this class?
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And she went, oh, yes, of course, of course.
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So, you know, shout out to Tin Whistle and their glass and
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we'll see. What do you think?
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So cream Peach ale. Cream.
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Alright, cream Peach. Cheers.
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OK, and I I've had this before, so this is your first time.
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Right, this is my first time of their the alcohol expire OK, but
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I've been drinking 10 whistled beers since the 1980s.
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They've been around that. Yeah, They were around the
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1980s, like I guess they were. Yeah, that's right.
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They've changed location, by the way.
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Yeah. Anyway, yeah, so yeah, no, this
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is a ohe boy. The Peach is really, really
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present in this. Year, it's really yeah.
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However it's not very hoppy, like you can't really taste the
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hops. So again, why not, you know, a
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fruit flavored beer having the fruit overwhelming a bit.
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What do you think? I, I don't know, I think it's
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more of a fruit forward beer than a fruit flavored beer.
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Like, OK, to me there's still beer taste there, but the Peach
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is very much a forward flavor to me.
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So I'm not an expert in tasting and but I do know what I like
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and this one I really do like. This is a nice, nice beer.
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I honestly though, I mean I do like it.
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I quite like drinking this, but it doesn't sort of taste like a
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beer to me because I have had the other one I've had the the
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alcohol Peach 1 and it does not taste.
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They taste quite different for sure, right.
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And it I just find that this, yeah, it's it's good, but I
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don't taste the beer Ness in it as much.
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It's it's definitely a beer that that I've had as the alcohol
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beer as well. And you know, you're right,
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there is a distinct difference and I think it's a it's a fine
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difference. I mean, it's it's like, do I
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have to choose between Smarties and M&M's?
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Maybe not. Yeah.
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You know, I mean, if I like them both, I can have them both.
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But I really, I really do like this as an alcohol free beer.
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And I think this might be 1 you and I disagree on when we come
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to rating. It Yeah, we we might, although
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it's hard because I do like it. I had the same conversation with
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the brewmaster who made this beer when we tried it in the in
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the brewery, and I said that to her.
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I said, wow, it it tastes bought the two tastes a lot different
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because we had them side by side.
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We had both of them, right? My mom and dad were there too.
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And so we, I and I said that to our said, wow, it tastes a lot
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different. It doesn't taste like the
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alcohol version of it. And I said, but you know what?
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That's OK. And then we had that discussion
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of what it doesn't have to taste like the alcohol version of it.
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It's like the beyond burger doesn't have to taste like a
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beef burger. It tastes like a beyond burger,
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right? So.
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And here's the thing, if you were comparing this to the
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alcohol beer. Yeah.
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How would that change your opinion?
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Yeah, that's true. I guess I'm going into this
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thinking it should have a beer, more of a beer flavor, right?
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And it doesn't, OK. And some of the other Peach ones
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that we have tried have maybe had more of a beer flavor,
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right? Not always, but so maybe that's
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what my expectation was. But that being said, it's very
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good. I quite like it.
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Yeah, so on our scale, and we won't bother telling people one
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and two are again, but no, 3 is kind of like, OK, I I won't
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throw it out, but I'm not going to run out and buy it.
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Yeah, 4 is. Wow, Why would you bother with
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the alcohol? That's a pretty darn good beer.
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And five is, you know, that's a Hall of Fame beer.
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Where are you? I think I'm on the high end of
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the three scale, like maybe just maybe just under a four.
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OK, I would go and buy this again.
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In fact, next time I'm in Penticton I probably will go buy
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this again. So I guess that's leaning more
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towards a fore. And if I, if I remove myself
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from the from the bias, I suppose of thinking this should
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taste bearish, then it's definitely in the four category.
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If I hold on to my bias of hey, it should be a beer, then I have
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to drop it down into the 3.8 ish.
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What about? What do you think?
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This is my first Hall of Fame beer.
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Really. Yeah, absolutely.
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This is definitely A5 for me, OK.
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And I really enjoy it. I have a bias towards Tin
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Whistle. I've always liked their beers,
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their craft beers in particular. And the Peach.
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The Peach was introduced a few years after some of the other
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beers that they made there, but I've always loved their Peach
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beer. Used to come in those 750 mil
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bottles. That.
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Were you know, 2 beers each and and so you had to have them
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pretty quickly or else they go play.
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Right. Yeah, of course.
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Or drink them with a friend. But this one I think is in its
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in its lane is every bit as good as their alcoholic Peach Peach
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sale. It is very good and in terms of
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a Peach beer, I mean, what better place than Penticton to
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have a a Peach beer, right? So anyway, cheers again.
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We'll keep drinking this for a little bit here.
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Why don't we get on to some of the other terms that we've heard
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when you were, I think this was when you were in Penticton as
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well, that you heard a term that I hadn't heard of before, zebra
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striping. Why don't you?
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That's right. It was actually at Tin Whistle
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when I was having the trying this beer there, talking to the
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brewmaster and we she mentioned the term zebra striping.
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And I'm like, oh, never heard of that.
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And basically it means the idea of going out and alternating
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between having an alcohol drink and a non alcoholic.
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So an alcoholic beer non alcoholic going back and forth.
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Striping as a zebra right back and forth so that you can go
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through the evening and not get hammered and, and, you know,
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still have your drink. So I thought, wow, that's,
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that's actually quite descriptive.
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Yeah. Zebra striping.
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Absolutely. I like, I like that term.
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And you know, I mean, it kind of brings up that some of the other
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terms that we've heard as well, you know, one of them is book
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ending, which is a British term from what you told me, I think.
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And, and that makes good sense to me as well, you know, where
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people, particularly if you're at an event and you're going to
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be driving later in the evening, you know, to have a an alcohol
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free or non alcohol beer at the beginning and another one at the
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end. Yeah.
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You know, figuring that you're probably going to be leaving
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maybe 1/2 an hour or after you've had that last one.
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So the alcohols had a chance to come out of your system if you
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want to have a beer or a cocktail in between.
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Right, right. So book ending very similar to
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zebra striping. Yeah, I guess really.
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And then there's there's the term flexi drinking.
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I've heard that sounds kind of a very made-up term.
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But anyway, flexi drinking the same idea, kind of going back
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and forth and you know, all of these are just again, kind of
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the idea of just being more mindful about what you're
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drinking. Well, and I think what I like
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about the terms we're just discussing right now is it is
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not an all or nothing approach, right?
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People can make choices for themselves.
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They can say, hey, I wanna, I wanna have alcoholic drinks as
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well as non alcoholic drinks. And, and I think that that that
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really is a choice point for people that maybe wasn't so
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prevalent perhaps when you and I were growing up as young adults.
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And I mean, I don't remember an alcohol free beer being around
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if you wanted something and you were the designated driver,
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driver. You're having a.
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Coke. You were having a Diet Coke at
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beer prices. Yeah, You know, exactly.
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Yeah. The restaurants and the bars
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they want, they wanted to get their their money's worth out of
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you. So.
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I like, I like, you know that what you just mentioned the all
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it's not an all or nothing. You can you can do both.
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Right. Here's kind of a funny story.
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It ties it with a turb. I was, I was texting my son
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Liam, who lives in Victoria and for, for Christmas, I got all my
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kids pack or a case of alcohol free beer just because, you
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know, we're doing. I said, hey, this is a present
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from dad. So Liam was texting and saying,
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Oh yeah, I tried that. And I got him the I, I and Iota
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1 cause he's in Victoria Iota, yeah, Iota brand from Phillips
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is Victoria. So I said, oh, I tried that.
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It was, it was pretty good. And he goes, and then I decided
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I'd try it with a shot of whiskey in it And, and it
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actually, he goes, it actually tasted really good.
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And I'm thinking, and I kind of texted back saying, doesn't that
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kind of defeat the purpose of alcohol free beer?
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But really, I guess, what do you think about it?
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You can kind of adjust how much I'll call you have in it then.
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And and I guess as a mixer it was OK.
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And then he came back with this. He says, hey, it's kind of a
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retox. Retox, right?
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So a play on our brew talks, I'm calling a Retox.
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So you're Retox seeing that alcohol free beer.
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So I thought it was kind of funny.
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Introducing it for sure. Yeah.
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Well, you know, it actually reminds me you've been in
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restaurants or bars where they have given you a Margarita and
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turned to Corona upside down in it, right.
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Those are really quite tasty. They are really enjoyed it.
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You can still do the same thing. My wife and I were out and I was
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having an alcohol free beer and she looked on the menu and there
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was an alcohol free Margarita with alcohol free tequila and
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alcohol free triple SEC and and all of those things.
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And so I forgot the thinking after you told me this story
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that you could probably take a Corona 0 which is their non
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alcoholic beer and put it into an alcohol free Margarita and
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have the same kind of thing sensation.
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Exactly. Definitely.
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Speaking of Corona Zero, I was pleasantly surprised to see that
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Corona 0 is a was one of the main sponsors of the Olympics.
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This year. Yeah, the winter.
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Olympics was. That's right.
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I saw that as well. Cool.
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Yeah, very cool. I saw an add on and I was like,
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oh wow. And it says official sponsor of
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the Milan Cortina Olympics, so that's pretty cool.
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Right. I think we need to have another
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beer because I'm I'm out again. We could have another beer,
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however done are factoid thing here.
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Alright are 0 proof full truth part.
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Zero truth. Full truth.
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You almost got it right. So I've got 1 here for you.
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Excellent Being that we're talking about, you know, terms
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and stuff. I I saw this one analog.
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So analog in terms of drinks. So an analog drink is a non
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alcoholic version of a product that is traditionally made with
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alcohol. So like a, a spirit free
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bourbon, for example, would be an A bourbon analog.
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So I guess you could have a whiskey analog or a tequila
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analog, right? And that's, that's a term that's
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actually used out there in the distillery, I guess the
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distillery world, right, as they would make analog versions of
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their drinks. So much sense.
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Yeah, absolutely. Well, I like.
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That all right, Kind of cool, Yeah.
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So do you want to try that other beer?
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Two choices. One was the D alcoholic used one
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that we got and then we have this another one which is I'll
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go get it. OK.
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It is a logo pilsner, non alcoholic beer.
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And this is from Fernie BC, another craft brewery in BC, So
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Fernie Brewing Company. So Fernie is in the Kootenays?
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Yeah. You're the Alberta border.
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Yeah. So this is this is a smaller
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very it's a standard size can here 12/12 ounce can pilsner.
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I can't remember if I've had this yet or not.
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I can't remember. I think I did try.
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How many calories it? Ohk calorie wise, this is only
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50 calories, OK, OK versus the 150?
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Yeah, yeah, but in a little bit larger can, but still less
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caloric than the Peach. So I'm thinking this is going to
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be pretty light, tasty, won't be as much substance as that as the
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other one we've tried. I agree.
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OK, so let's so let's let's give it a whirl.
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Do we need new new glasses? Yeah, let's use the ones we got.
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OK, OK, OK, so for this here tilt your glass hold.
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This is a a different different colour than the Peach.
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Yeah, darker, much darker yellow amber colour.
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Yeah, a little bit of head on it as they tend to have bubbles are
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rising. Let's see.
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So this is a pilsner. Pilsner.
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And taste like a pilsner. There's not not a whole bunch to
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it, not I don't know. I've got this.
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I gotta take another little swag here.
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You know it, there's really not a lot of meat to this one, if
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that's a term I can use with beer.
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No, there's not much. There's not much to it.
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It's pretty bland. That tastes like tastes like a a
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really light, light beer, which I suppose it is.
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Yeah, right. Definitely on, on the very, very
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light side, I would say. Yeah, yeah, maybe it would go
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well with our snacks today. Oh.
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Yes, we have some hot Maple praline almonds from Nature
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Source today. Maybe that might jazz it up a
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little. Yeah, with the snacks here.
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OK cause this got a little zip does?
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It go with go with one of these. Let's try it out.
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OK, so do I Do I like? God bless.
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Swirl it around in my mouth with the with the little praline.
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And to make it does make it taste a little bit better.
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But I, I think that goes kind of against the fact that we're
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trying to taste the flavor of the beer.
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Yeah. Here.
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Yeah. I'm sorry, but I'm not overly
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enthused with this one. No I I might.
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I could almost take Liam's suggestion and retox this
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somehow to jazz it up a bit. To be fair, I mean, I gotta say
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that I've, I've never been a big fan of pilsners, no period.
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Yeah. And yeah.
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So this one, it's a bit of a let down after having the Peach, to
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tell you the truth. Yeah, for sure.
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The Peach was a much better beer.
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And honestly, you and I shouldn't be surprised that we
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don't really like the pilsners when they're non alcoholic
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because if we were drinking an alcoholic beer, we would not
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choose a Pilsner to drink. We haven't for years now, right?
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So, you know, to think that we would then like pilsner.
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I mean, I have liked, I have enjoyed some of the that's the
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loggers, not necessarily the pilsner loggers.
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Yeah, the non alcoholic once more so than I have the alcohol,
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the alcohol counterpart. So yeah, you know, I guess the
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pilsner could have been the same, but yeah, it's not great.
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Bow to the loggers when I like them is that there's something
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added to them. This is just a straight pilsner.
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Yeah. And and that, you know, I mean,
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maybe if it was a a line pilsner or something like that, it might
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might be a little bit better. Well, we certainly touched on
30:52
lots of topics again this episode, kind of it was a nice
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continuation actually from episode 6 into this episode,
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kind of carrying on with the theme that we were talking about
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terminology and then going into today with, you know, the
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mindful, mindful drinking and all the things surrounding that.
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So I don't know, I feel more educated by it and I've actually
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learned a little bit just kind of talking and certainly doing
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the research leading up to this episode, you know, I, I came
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across a lot of stuff I didn't really know or at least wasn't
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really even aware of or even thinking.
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So no, I agree. I mean, definitely educating
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yourself allows you to make choices for yourself, right?
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Yeah. And I think that's the bottom
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line for me. I'm hoping that we're providing
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people with a little bit of education and then they can go
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out and make the choices that they want to make.
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Exactly. Well, I certainly hope you have
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enjoyed listening to us as much as we've enjoyed talking to you.
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Come back next time because we'll always have a story to
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tell and a beer to taste. After all, this is brew tox.
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The 2 beers we reviewed today were Peach Cream Ale 0.5 from
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Tin Whistle Brewing in Penticton, BC and Logo Pilsner
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from Fernie Brewing in Fernie, BC.
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Original Bruto X theme music composed by Zach Wong.
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Original Bruto X graphics designed by Shelby Smithson.
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Retox is produced and edited by Scott and Scott.