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412: Paramount gets the smackdown · Star Trek Podcast: Trekcast

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  Speaker 1: Track us the Galaxy's most unpredictable Star Trek podcast.
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  Speaker 2: There he is, there, I am love love the music,
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  Speaker 2: love the music. Uh, you know, just uh a couple
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  Speaker 2: of weeks till Christmas, so uh we're gearing up for that,
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  Speaker 2: so absolutely, Yeah, how about you know what you've been
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  Speaker 2: up to.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, it's just just working away. Really.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you sound better. I know you've been under the
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  Speaker 2: weather for a couple of weeks. Little about you.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I've actually been fine for a long time, Like
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  Speaker 3: I was only sick for a few days. Has not come.
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  Speaker 2: Back right right? Well, no, no, I told you before.
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  Speaker 2: It sounds sexy, that's right.
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  Speaker 3: Immediately, Where's Dan? What's going on?
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  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 4: Dan?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Dan is off on a secret mission, so he
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  Speaker 2: couldn't join us today. So, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to
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  Speaker 2: Trek Cast, the Galaxy's most unpredictable Star Trek podcast. Unpredictably,
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  Speaker 2: we don't have Dan today. It's just myself, Scott and
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  Speaker 2: my co host, the guy who really runs the show, Daniel.
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  Speaker 3: Going on, Yeah, so you had a holiday party yesterday, right, No,
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  Speaker 3: I have a holiday party next week. Oh okay, okay,
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  Speaker 3: I saw you talking about it or something, So me
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  Speaker 3: holiday party.
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  Speaker 2: Oh okay, whatever, I'm having some friends over next week.
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  Speaker 2: But nice, yeah, okay, but no, I I might have
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  Speaker 2: said something in the video I posted. I've been making
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  Speaker 2: some charcouterie boards and uh nice, some of those are
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  Speaker 2: going to be given away as gifts. So and then
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna sell.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna sell the rest, okay, so right on, yeh yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I've been Uh, I've been working on my script and
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  Speaker 3: going to networking events and that's about it.
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  Speaker 2: How's a script? Him along?
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  Speaker 3: The script? The horror film is done. I'm working on
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  Speaker 3: the next one. So that's and I recently won some
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  Speaker 3: more awards. So I have won awards in five out
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  Speaker 3: of the six competitions that I've been in. Oh wow, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: so so far, so good.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Just just don't forget your your Trek cast roots.
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  Speaker 2: You know when when when your name's up in lights
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  Speaker 2: and yeah.
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  Speaker 3: We'll see about that. We'll see what.
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  Speaker 2: That's a big leap, right right, So.
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  Speaker 3: Well we should since it's just that when you get
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  Speaker 3: to the news, let's.
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  Speaker 2: Do it Star Trek News.
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  Speaker 3: All right, So our first news story comes to us
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  Speaker 3: from the Verge. I know that you saw it. We
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  Speaker 3: got our new Star Trek thirty one or Section thirty
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  Speaker 3: one official trailer. Yay, this is like the eighth official
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  Speaker 3: trailer we've had.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe, and this was more or less the the story trailer,
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  Speaker 5: a little bit about what's going on, right, can't really
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  Speaker 5: show it because Paramount likes to crack down on people.
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  Speaker 3: Oh really, yeah, big time?
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  Speaker 2: Why if you're a company, Okay, why would you want
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  Speaker 2: to crack down on people sharing your trailer? I know,
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  Speaker 2: I know, yeah, I mean I know Paramounts.
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  Speaker 3: We're gonna get into Paramount a little bit later. It's
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  Speaker 3: a it's a fun story.
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  Speaker 2: Oh do we have Paramountain News?
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  Speaker 3: We do, kind of kind of Oh okay, anyway.
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  Speaker 2: What did you think about this trailer?
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  Speaker 6: Ah?
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  Speaker 3: I have more questions than answers, a lot more questions.
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  Speaker 3: So you guys had hopefully you've seen the trailer, but
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  Speaker 3: it starts out with Georgio is running some sort of
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  Speaker 3: space station. Yeah, somebody comes to recruiter on a mission
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  Speaker 3: and she basically gets recruited into Section thirty one. It
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  Speaker 3: sounds like in the trailer because that's the way it's edited, right,
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  Speaker 3: which is really weird. So I don't know if this
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  Speaker 3: is going to be like a prequel trailer that shows
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  Speaker 3: about how she got into section thirty one originally, and
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  Speaker 3: then you know, we see that backstory, right, and then
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  Speaker 3: we get caught up to where we're at now. But
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  Speaker 3: you know, when we last saw her in Discovery, she
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  Speaker 3: was taken off with the Guardian of the Edge of
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  Speaker 3: Forever or whatever, and I thought that dude would be around,
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  Speaker 3: but apparently.
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  Speaker 2: I did too. See, I'm afraid I've got so many
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  Speaker 2: complaints about this series of trailers.
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  Speaker 3: I part.
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  Speaker 2: I was disappointed in the trailer for a couple of reasons.
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  Speaker 2: Number one, it seemed like it was just one action
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  Speaker 2: shot after and after the next. Yeah, and it was.
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  Speaker 2: It was kind of a barrage of you know, a
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  Speaker 2: few lines of dialogue that tried to bring it into
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  Speaker 2: the story. But you know, I had just earlier this week,
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  Speaker 2: I had just watched the first teaser trailer to star
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  Speaker 2: Trek First Contact m and the way that it was done,
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  Speaker 2: even though I've seen that movie probably somewhere in the
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  Speaker 2: neighborhood of nine hundred times. Yeah, it's that trailer. That
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  Speaker 2: thirty year old trailer still drew me in, right, and
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  Speaker 2: in a way that this trailer didn't draw me in.
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  Speaker 2: It just it looked like a Star Wars trailer.
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  Speaker 3: It made me think watching the trailer that I guarantee
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  Speaker 3: at some point, in either a pitch meeting or some
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  Speaker 3: sort of meeting at Paramount, somebody sat in a room
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  Speaker 3: and said this is going to be our Guardians of
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  Speaker 3: the Galaxy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah right, Yeah, it's well, And that makes sense because
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  Speaker 2: what was Guardians of the Galaxy. Before Guardians of the
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  Speaker 2: Galaxy came out, nobody really knew who they were, right,
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  Speaker 2: It was kind of an odd ball kind of thing.
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  Speaker 2: And to the very casual Star Trek fan, the one
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  Speaker 2: that hasn't seen all the episodes, they might not know
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  Speaker 2: who section thirty one is. You know, if you didn't
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  Speaker 2: watch Je's Face nine, it might be lost on even
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  Speaker 2: though they touched on it on several other series. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it just I don't know. I'll watch it with, you know,
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  Speaker 2: with my eyes open and hopefully an open heart, But
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm just not I'm hoping that I'm
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  Speaker 2: surprised by the movie.
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  Speaker 3: I hope to be pleasantly surprised, but I am prepared
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  Speaker 3: for disappointment.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, a colossal disappointment. Yeah. Michelle Yoh is fantastic. She
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  Speaker 2: was despite all the complaints we had in Discovery, she
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  Speaker 2: was a a shining light in Discovery. She was The
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  Speaker 2: way she portrayed, Uh portrayed her character was amazing. You know,
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  Speaker 2: that vicious, sly anti hero.
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  Speaker 3: She was always the most interesting character in the scene
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  Speaker 3: when she was there.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you're saying she was more interesting than Michael Burnham.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, Hm, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I I kind of wish Dan was here to lend
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  Speaker 2: his opinion. What do you what do you think he
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  Speaker 2: would say?
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  Speaker 3: He would be like defending Michael his favorite.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and not to put words in his mouth,
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  Speaker 2: but I think his attitude probably has changed about Michael.
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  Speaker 2: I think that Dan Lombardo probably embraces Michael now.
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  Speaker 3: So you know, except for Michael's.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly exactly She's she's She's got a special place in
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  Speaker 2: his heart.
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  Speaker 3: So indeed, all right, our next news story, I think
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  Speaker 3: some people will be kind of happy about this news.
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  Speaker 3: I kind of looked around for it and found this.
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  Speaker 3: We have an update on the Orville season four Maybe
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  Speaker 3: maybe maybe so. According to what is this website canceled
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  Speaker 3: sci fi dot Com, they were tracking production Weekly. Production
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  Speaker 3: Weekly is where people go and look for crewing jobs.
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  Speaker 3: On TV shows and Weekly had updated on their site
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  Speaker 3: different shows that need cruise, one of them being The
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  Speaker 3: Orville season four.
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  Speaker 7: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: They also updated Agatha all Along season two, Earth or
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  Speaker 3: Alien Earth, and a Harry Potter show.
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  Speaker 2: So well, we all know that the Harry Potter Show
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  Speaker 2: is coming out. I mean Agatha all Along was you know,
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  Speaker 2: fairly possible received. So I don't know if if this
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  Speaker 2: this other site, this you know, crewe other site, is
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  Speaker 2: you know, reliable or predictable or if we know any
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  Speaker 2: history on it, hopefully it's.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's not the most reliable, but it's a good
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  Speaker 3: set for kind of it's a good direction of where
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  Speaker 3: they're going, right, right, so if they're starting to crew,
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  Speaker 3: that probably means they're gonna do it, but it's not
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  Speaker 3: a guarantee. Right things get shot and then never make
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  Speaker 3: it to air.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Batgirl right right. That was an entire
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  Speaker 2: completed movie, like shot, everything was done, edited.
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  Speaker 3: Actme versus Wiley Coyote. That thing is done done like
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  Speaker 3: it's edited. It is done.
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  Speaker 2: I heard whisper no, I heard whispers about it, but
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know what happened to it.
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  Speaker 3: So they made a movie about the wily Coyote suing
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  Speaker 3: the ACME Corporation for faulty equipment.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, it was the CGI animated.
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  Speaker 3: It's like Roger Rabbit. It's animated with people.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that'd be fun.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's got like all these celebrities in it
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  Speaker 3: and it's done. And apparently people who have seen it,
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  Speaker 3: they're like, this thing's great, like it. It should be
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  Speaker 3: out in theaters. But Warner Brothers decided not forget it.
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  Speaker 3: We're gonna take the tax right off instead.
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  Speaker 2: Well I can understand them doing I can understand the
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  Speaker 2: studio doing it if the movie sucks, right, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like apparently Batgirl was just bad. Yeah, even though I
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  Speaker 2: want to see it. But if it's good, then uh
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  Speaker 2: huh Okay.
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  Speaker 3: I like the idea that if if you're gonna write
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  Speaker 3: off a movie and it's that complete, it should be
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  Speaker 3: automatically public domain.
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  Speaker 2: I like that idea too. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, you're not gonna make money on it, great, that's fine.
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  Speaker 3: Release it and it's public domain. Yeah yeah, like not
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  Speaker 3: the characters, like you still own those copyrights, but the
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  Speaker 3: actual film itself, just.
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  Speaker 2: So that people can see it, right, Yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 2: not make money off of it, but yeah, let them
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  Speaker 2: have the tax right off. But that should be a
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  Speaker 2: stipulation in the tax right off. It should be you know,
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  Speaker 2: you're using tax payers money, it should belong to the
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  Speaker 2: PAXT taxpayers exactly.
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  Speaker 3: So all right.
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  Speaker 2: All right, I'll start my letter writing campaign.
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  Speaker 3: There you go, we'll get on change dot org. Our
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  Speaker 3: next news story comes to us from CBS News. I
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  Speaker 3: thought this was one it's too bad dance not here
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  Speaker 3: because this hits from New York. Know the big news
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  Speaker 3: story in New York this week?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 3: Uh yeah, No, yeah, not this one. Not a New
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  Speaker 3: York woman who blames Star Trek license plates for tens
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  Speaker 3: of thousands of accidental dollars in accidental tickets. Oh no, so,
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  Speaker 3: long time ago, she had personalized plates that said NCC's
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  Speaker 3: seventeen oh one. Right, she has since given up driving,
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  Speaker 3: returned to her plates. She doesn't drive anymore at all,
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  Speaker 3: hasn't for years. Right, But peoples make these plates as
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  Speaker 3: novelty plates all around the country. And uh yeah, so
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  Speaker 3: she gets tickets for people who driving around with these
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  Speaker 3: novelty plates. Gets the no. Yeah, she's able to fight
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  Speaker 3: them off pretty easily, but she still gets them all
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  Speaker 3: the way New York or traffic I forget what it
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  Speaker 3: was called. Department. It says there's nothing in their computer
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  Speaker 3: that ties her to that plate anymore because she's given
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  Speaker 3: it up. So they don't know why she keeps getting
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  Speaker 3: all these tickets, but she's getting them.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll have to ask q y starflee security.
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  Speaker 3: So it's more of a funny annoyance than anything, right,
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, it just keeps happening.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, I've always thought about, you know, a cool
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  Speaker 2: license plate like that, like just seventeen oh one or
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  Speaker 2: seventeen oh one D or something like that, and it's
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  Speaker 2: like it's too damn recognizable, too damn ubiquitous. You know.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want my license plate to be something that
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  Speaker 2: you know is out there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I always think of the uh was it
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  Speaker 3: Ferris Bueller that had the license plate? So cool?
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  Speaker 2: Was it? Yeah? That right? Right? So cool? Yeah? Yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Oh it's like a California license plate that says out
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  Speaker 2: of time, right right?
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  Speaker 3: You know, well, what would you get on your vanity plates?
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  Speaker 2: I mean it would it'd have to be like if
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  Speaker 2: I if I was doing like a front license plate
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  Speaker 2: that could be anything it wanted to, I'd probably get
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  Speaker 2: like an out of time California plate. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: if I were to do a vanity plate in the
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  Speaker 2: my my Michigan license plate, you know, it would probably
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  Speaker 2: be something along the lines of NCC on seven O
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  Speaker 2: one D or you know.
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  Speaker 3: You like go blue or no.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, yeah, I'm a I'm a I'm
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  Speaker 2: a Michigan fan. I'm a Lions fan. I'm you know,
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  Speaker 2: but but i'm you know, those those don't represent what right,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the ideals that I hold true and things
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  Speaker 2: like that. So I'm just a fan with Star Trek.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's I'm I'm I was gonna say, what's
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  Speaker 2: more than a fan of fanatic? I'm not a fanatic.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just a bigger fan.
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  Speaker 3: I think they met watching DS nine. Now the founder's lady,
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  Speaker 3: the founder, the founder lady's face is peeling. Oh nice,
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  Speaker 3: I know the part.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah that was Zeno griff right, yeah, yeah, what's up?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? And then our last news story, this is just
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  Speaker 3: real quick. It's from Variety and normally I wouldn't bring
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  Speaker 3: this up, but they mentioned Paramount in it. So WWE
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  Speaker 3: is going to Netflix starting at the start of the
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  Speaker 3: new year. So they have this big event talking about
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  Speaker 3: how excited they are to be live streaming on Netflix
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  Speaker 3: starting next year. And in the middle of it, they
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  Speaker 3: were talking about the history of WWE on different broadcasters,
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  Speaker 3: and they used to be on what was called the
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  Speaker 3: Nashville Network, which became Spike Tvah, yeah, which then became
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  Speaker 3: the Paramount Network.
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  Speaker 2: And so that's why happened to Spike TV. I didn't
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  Speaker 2: realize that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. So Paulavec aka Triple eight, former ww champion, who's
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  Speaker 3: now the executive at at w W, said to quote
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  Speaker 3: a Spike which is now Paramount, which is now wholly irrelevant,
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  Speaker 3: and then they went on to make a few more
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  Speaker 3: digs at Paramount. From what I understand, Wow, just because
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  Speaker 3: they were asked like, when you were deciding to go
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  Speaker 3: with Netflix or any other streamers in the running, They're like, well,
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  Speaker 3: Peacock was because we they they've worked with NBC for
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  Speaker 3: a long time, so you know that that relationship there.
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  Speaker 3: They had talked with Peacock. But but they were like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: pretty much nobody else. And then they were like, well
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  Speaker 3: what about Paramount. No, they're they're just nobody cares.
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  Speaker 2: So see that's said you know Paramount, you know, Paramount
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  Speaker 2: is affiliated with CBS, and CBS used to be one
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  Speaker 2: of the big networks and they're they're they're the small
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  Speaker 2: fish now Paramounts kind of you know, the little brother.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and then Paramount for a long time has been
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  Speaker 3: known as they demographically target older people, right, all those
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  Speaker 3: ncis and all those police procedurals they appeal to more
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  Speaker 3: like fifty pluses. I think that is what it is.
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  Speaker 3: And that group really doesn't go with streaming that often.
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  Speaker 3: They're more broadcast and yeah, so that's the other reason
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  Speaker 3: why Paramount streaming is not as big as the others.
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  Speaker 2: So, okay, well, I hope they get the crap together,
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  Speaker 2: I really do.
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  Speaker 3: You know, maybe when the new boss comes, we'll.
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  Speaker 2: See, because the future of Star Trek is sort of
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  Speaker 2: kind of up in the air right now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, a little bit. It's it's kind of sad. Well,
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  Speaker 3: let's get to our main topic. Or do you have
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  Speaker 3: anything else you want to bring up?
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  Speaker 2: Gee? Let me think?
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  Speaker 3: No, okay, the fun will now comment? Oh I just
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  Speaker 3: burn my tongue.
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  Speaker 2: Do you need me to take over?
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  Speaker 3: Please go?
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  Speaker 2: Well, we are talking about so let's see, we're talking
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: about lower Star Trek lower decks. This would be what
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: season five episode eight. The episode is called Upper Decks.
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  Speaker 2: The tagline is very very misleading. The tagline is the
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  Speaker 2: lower deckers have a pumpkin carving party. I mean that happens,
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  Speaker 2: That did happen. But the taglines, especially on IMDb, are
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  Speaker 2: usually a little bit misleading. This episode was not about
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  Speaker 2: the lower deckers at all. This episode was about the
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  Speaker 2: the upper deckers.
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  Speaker 3: This was our random episode.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, this was our random episode. Yeah, I uh, I
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  Speaker 2: liked the episode. I'm looking at like plot summaries from
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  Speaker 2: different websites and yeah, they're just not They're not one
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  Speaker 2: thing I've noticed, right right, So, like it was a it.
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  Speaker 3: Was a weird episode, like they were negotiating some sort
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  Speaker 3: of like agreements or diplomatic thing with the with the
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  Speaker 3: rais of people. No, no, no, they were moving.
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  Speaker 2: The animals, the animals, the space cows, the space cows.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they were moving those things what off off a
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  Speaker 3: planet or off some space debris something.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so they had to get the space cows. They
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  Speaker 2: were moving the space cows around, and then there was
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  Speaker 2: another group, another group of aliens that wanted to hijack
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  Speaker 2: the space cows for their right now, yeah, the the
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  Speaker 2: insectoid they're an insectoid species who uh uh don't not
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  Speaker 2: only don't like it, but like are repulsed repelled by compliments, right. Right.
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  Speaker 3: But but the space cows they have like a biological cloak, right,
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  Speaker 3: It's part of what their natural defenses, and these guys
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  Speaker 3: want that for some reason. Right, So they're trying to
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  Speaker 3: get the cows. The the Crito's crew is trying to
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: protect the cows, and hilarity ensues.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's a lot of callbacks here. That lieutenant
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: right there, the lieutenant that plays the tuba, she gets
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: a uh they call it a zerta pathogen, which I'm well,
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: they said she de evolved and evolved at the same time, right,
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: So they're they're they're talking about it's it's from the
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: episode Genesis from the Next Generation where the crew evolves, right.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: But also, yeah, they could I'm reading this from IMDb.
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: The first thing that it's it's calling back to is
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: from Genesis. It caused a condition Doctor Crusher named Barkley's
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: protamorphosis syndrome. That's when the crew devolved because of synthetic
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: t salt cells and all that kind of stuff. And
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: then it also says that the Voyage. The Voyager episode Threshold,
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: which is widely considered to be one of the worst episodes,
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: but sure is also a call. It was also a
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: callback to, so that if if you don't remember that
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: Voyager episode, that's the episode where they break warp ten,
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: which is physically, theoretically and spiritually not you can't do so.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: See because so many people talk about it. I don't
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: think it's one of the worst episodes, right, Okay, yeah,
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: I think the one where where is boxing is probably
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: the worst or whatever, the worst.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Because that's bad to watch and we don't talk about it.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: Right and nobody talks about it. Yeah?
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the the one where they oh, that's also the
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: one where, uh isn't that the one where Paris and
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Jane Way turn into lizard slugs and have a baby.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: That's that's threshold.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's Threshold. Okay, yeah, okay, Just so we have
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: our ever horrible Voiagure episodes down.
• 22:37
  Speaker 7: So.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Uh that. Yeah, that lieutenant is able to save the
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: day because she's also kind of strong and she plays
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: the tuba for the captain. The captain is also kind
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: of having a data's day. She's going around doing her
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: captain thing and uh, I think it's lieutenant. Is a
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: commander Billups, the chief engineer. Is that the one that's
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: taken who's taken her around? It's a lieutenant that's taking
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: her around on her daily duties. Do you remember who
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: that is?
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: Oh? I don't remember. Yeah, it's Billups, third is okay, yeah.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so going around and there you know she's
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: doing her you know, daily duties on on the Soritos.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Huh and you know, hilarity.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: Her husband shows up to surprise her. Yeah.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: I thought that was kind of cool.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and Mariners like, what are you talking about? My
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: dad's here.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: Right right right? Yeah, that's uh. Alonzo Freeman that was
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: voiced by Phil Lamar has done a lot of voiceover stuff. Tons, tons.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: I like that the beards are getting bigger with with
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: Boemler in Rufford.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's starting to fill it a little bit a
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: little bit, a little bit so he's sort of got that.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: He sort of got a go tee thing going on,
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: and this episode looks.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: Like, yeah, a little bit. Yeah, So getting more shaggy
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: for sure.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Right yeah. And then the first officer of the Soritos
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: Ransom is in charge of some of the lower deckers,
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: not our lower deckers, but like a group of random
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: lower deckers from like Beta and Camra Shift, and they
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: have to work together to be able to take take
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: control of the situations on the Critos. And Ransom is
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: using his different style to bring the cadets together because
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: the two shifts aren't getting along. So in the end
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: he's able to, you know, by pretending to be an idiot,
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: get the two lower deck shifts to work together.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: It feels like there was so many weird little things
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: going on, right, Like you had you had tracks like
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: trying to better himself in some weird way through meditation,
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, he was going through a weird thing where
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: his his uh ethereal projection was, yeah, trying to fight
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: him and he also used his zen like awareness to
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: to fight off the insectoids.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you had the the cat doctor trying to
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: look for new levels of pain.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Right because there was a lot of Yeah, there was
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: complaints on on the ship that her bedside manner specifically
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: when it came to anesthesia was a little bit lacking.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: But what I'm getting at is it almost feels like
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: they they just took all of their ideas that they
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: kind of liked that they could never really get one
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: full episode of and they just went, screw it, we'll
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: throw it in that one episode.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, that's that's called On the Office Ladies podcast,
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: they call those candy bags. Stuff you get out of
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: the candy bag, so like they'll they on the Office
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Ladies podcast was a podcast about the office. They talk
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: about when they're when they're you know, doing a show
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: and they're trying to fill in stuff in a particular episode,
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: they'll grab from the candy bag of different story ideas,
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: like short story ideas, and yeah, you're right, that's what
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: it felt like that they were like, let's just grab
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: the candy bag and just pull a bunch of crap
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: out of that and throw it.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, none of it really linked together, really, no, not
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: at all, little bits, you know, not at all. Oh no,
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: Zeno group, don't mention my furnace went out last Sunday.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: Me and the dog staying warm, honkering down for the
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: Michigan weather, Oh no, oh no.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well it should be getting a little bit warmer
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: depending on where Michigan you live. But uh yeah, it's
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: it was a lot of snow last week.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: But man, yeah, overall, like I thought this episode was,
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: you know, had entertaining moments.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know the coffee face nine. Oh yeah,
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: the coffee cup that he has, it's the same it's
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: the same style coffee cup that they have on d
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: S nine.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: Lots of the scene right here where they do the
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: little hands together. Yeah, yeahs forever one, two three.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: It's just a bunch of weird little bits.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: It's so silly. Yeah, it's so silly. Yeah, I'm telling you.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: The more I see the silliness of this, the more
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: I keep thinking, my my theory for the final episode
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: is gonna come true. Somebody in live action is gonna
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: gonna come on screen talking to somebody else and saying, yeah,
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: it took some creative liberties with the story, but that's
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: pretty much how it happened.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: Ty J says it's funny that the show really hasn't
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: furthered the main story much at all. Yeah. I don't
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: think there's much to the main story. That's why.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: No, he's absolutely right. Yeah, it doesn't seem like they're
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: you know, there's a there's been these hints of all that.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: What fish, what are the fissures? Yeah? Yeah, but which
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: next week.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: It's next week's episode is called Fissu Request, and the
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: little tagline we have is the fissures must be closed
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: before they get inflamed. So I guess we'll start to
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: see more.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm wondering if they're trying to tie
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: this up. See, I'm hoping they don't. They didn't fall
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: into a situation where the writers didn't realize that this
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: was gonna be the final season until like, you know, late,
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: kind of too late.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I don't know.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like, oh, by the way, guys, you have to
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: wrap this up in five episodes? What right? Yeah?
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: I don't, I don't know, but you can definitely tell
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: like they're on their last legs. That's what it feels like.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, before we were kind of like disappointed
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: that this was coming to an end, and now it's like.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: Unfortunately, why yeah, unfortunately why? But it's so fun. I'm
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: still you know, I'm watching the episode. I watch every
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: episode of Lower dex wise, you know, the first time,
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: just to enjoy it. In the second time, just to
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: kind of take some mental notes.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: But you know, I should mention I posted in the group,
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: uh for those of you that love lower decks. There's
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: a YouTube channel called Red Letter Media. They kind of
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: review movies, like especially crappy movies, and they did a
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: review this week of Galaxy Quest, and as part of
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: their review, they had Boimler himself Chack Quaid with them
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: to review Galaxy Quest. Really yeah, he does mention being
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: on Star Trek and he talks a little bit about
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: this Star Trek perspective of Galaxy Quest.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: So okay, okay, so.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: It's pretty neat, you know, well, ty j, I'd rather
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: watch more of this than section thirty one. Yeah, we
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: don't know that for sure yet.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Well, I guess we're gonna have to find out.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're hoping to be surprised. We don't think it'll happen,
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: but we're open.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I it just doesn't from looking at
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: the previews and the storyline, and I just hope it's
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: Star Trek. Hey, above all else, I hope it's Star Trek.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: If Triple H is to be believed, Paramount is irrelevant.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: So yeah, yeh.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: And Cannon is just a suggestion, and that's right, that's right,
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: just throw it all out the window.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, my head, Canyon is it's all good.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: It's all good. Yeah. Is Rutherford still growing the beard?
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: I know you mentioned that earlier? Is he Do we
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: have a shot of him?
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: I mean it's kind of like a five o'clock shadow, Okay,
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: but that's you know, they're mainly focused on Boimler.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: So, oh I didn't notice that in the background that
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: the lady is evolving into the or devolving into the
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: monkey person.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, she's she's de evolving and evolving at
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: the same time. So she's she can read minds, but
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: she's also afraid of open flame.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: Right right.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's how that's how the cat doctor was
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: able to get her to calm down. She imagined a candle, Okay,
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: so the ape lady could read her mind of the
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: candle and be scared of the.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: Flame, right right. That's kunny.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Can you imagine Doctor Crusher doing this?
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: No?
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: No, no, oh gosh yeah. Oh. Also, in that that
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: red letter media thing Jack Quaid talked about when we
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: saw him out in Chicago and they were in uniform.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: Uh huh.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: He talked about that situation. Nice. Why they did that?
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: So nice? It's kind of cool, But you know, I'm
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: gonna have to look at go back to pictures because
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: I'd like to compare. Do we have pictures? That was
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: the first that that Chicago Comic Con twenty twenty two
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: was the first time that I had met you guys
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: in person. Yep. And we went to that panel, and
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: you're right they for those who don't remember, Uh, we
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: went to the panel, the Lower Decks panel, and it
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: was it was Boemler, it was Mayrin, it was tind
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: with in green face paint. Yeah, okay here and and
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Jerry O'Connor yep. And they were all wearing Lower Decks uniforms.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: I would like to go back and look at compare
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: Mariner and Boemler. Oh yeah, of the comic Con to
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: the crossover episode.
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: Oh that's a good call.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: We'll have to look see if there's any pictures of that. Yeah,
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: so maybe go back to the Facebook group from you know,
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: spring of Yeah, yeah, let's check that out.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: Oh that's te j. Were the insect aliens in this
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: episode a new race or have they been referenced before?
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: I was looking to see if they were in in
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: referenced before, but I they weren't like the Zindi, and
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: I don't think they were the the insect type race
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: that Picard like had to negotiate with, right, So, I
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: I don't know, does anybody you know if that insect
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: race was a new race because I didn't recognize them,
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: and they didn't say anything about them that called back
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: to anything that I remember, you know, and especially I
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: don't remember, like the whole compliment thing. Mm hmm, Like
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: the compliment comment reminded me of that webbed fingered alien
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: that uh Wesley Crusher encountered at the Academy.
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm I'm. I found the the Wikipedia briefing
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: of the episode, okay, and does not have the name
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: of the aliens on there.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, Yeah, it.
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: Has the name of the space cows, the but Hoogans,
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: the Hoogans, Yeah, h G O O N S.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't Yeah, I don't think we've ever encountered them,
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: have we?
• 34:59
  Speaker 7: No?
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: I don't think so, okay, Yeah, they're not familiar.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there wasn't not a whole lot to talk about
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: it this episode. It was kind of a.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Jess, because I think they're a new race. I
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: think so too, Yeah hmm, yeah, insects like the dudes
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: from Season three enterprises. Yeah, maybe there's Indy in my heart.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: There's Indy that through your head. Getting went, sure, we're
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: the guys from the Galaxy C.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: Splain. Oh that's right, yes, that's Oh that would be
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: funny if they brought out an alien from another franchise.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're not. It's not even close, like those guys
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: had technical stuff or like, but right, yeah, but whatever,
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: close enough, I'll just go with that.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right to captain for who is.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: That you cut out? What was at?
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: Not ball than guy? Next man?
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: Billups? You're kinda Scott? Okay, sorry I don't know. Okay, uh,
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: well Scott is doing that?
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: Tell you what.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: Let's get into listener feedback. So if you guys want
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: to x up in the chat, I will send the
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: link and we will have you on. So let me
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: put that link in there for those of you want
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: to join, and let's go to listener feedback. Listener feedback.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: All right, So we are in listener feedback, still waiting
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: for Scott to join us. So I did put out
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: in some of the uh social media, what people thought
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: of this episode. Oh Scott's back there, he goes.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: Guess who's back back again?
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: That's right? So yeah, so we're listener feedback now, but
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: I did put in social media people like this episode. Overall,
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: the reactions were mixed, didn't love it, didn't hate it.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: The other poll that I put out that I thought
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: was funny is I got a picture of Nick Locarno
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: and uh Tom Parris, and it said, these are different people.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: Change my mind, and I put the I put the
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: options where they're different people, they're the same, They're changelings.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: Oh far and away it was, h they're changelings.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Oh wow, yeah, okay.
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: So that the tribe is spoken.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: I always thought that there were some some day, somehow
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: going to come back to that and say, yeah, their
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: cousins or they're the same person or you know, because
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: obviously the reason you know, Nick Lecrno and Paris were
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: both played by the same guy, by Duncan McNeil, and.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: He uh he he had a premise or an idea
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: to solve that, oh yeah, because he wanted to come
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: back in season three of P Card. And what he
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: wanted was he wanted his character to show up at
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: the very end of like a segment.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Okay, and and.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: Both Card and seven are there, and so he pops
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: up and Picard goes Nick and seven goes Tom, and
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: then it bades right because it's it's the cliffhanger, and
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: then it comes back and they go, oh, yeah, that
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: makes sense, okay, and they just call him Tom from
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: that point on.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, yeah, well there the Voyager, the shore Runners Voyager.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: They wanted, they wanted that actor, and they wanted Nick.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: But they couldn't do Nick because if they did Nick,
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: they'd have to pay the guy who did the story
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: for that episode for the first duty. They'd have to
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: pay the writers more money, right right, And so they
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: couldn't use him as Nick la Carnal.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: They had to change every episode.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: Right, So I mean they basically changed his backstory just
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: a little bit, not a lot, Yeah, just a little bit.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: But they he was basically the same guy.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: Right right. Okay, we got people waiting on the line.
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: Let's get hipster spoking there he is, Hey, Hey.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: What's up?
• 39:40
  Speaker 6: How's it going?
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: God good? How are you? Yeah?
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: What's going on?
• 39:45
  Speaker 6: Okay? I'ven't been watching since I don't get like Paramount
• 39:49
  Speaker 6: plus and stuff, and it's a should service tip to
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: pay for. So uh wait till the season's over and
• 39:58
  Speaker 6: download the whole season. Be a Torrent or something and
• 40:03
  Speaker 6: then the internet mm hmm, yeah, yeah yeah, and then
• 40:08
  Speaker 6: got a VP. Yeah yeah, I do. Okay, So I'll
• 40:12
  Speaker 6: just do a whole binge watching type of thing and
• 40:17
  Speaker 6: it'll be my way to enjoy the season and and
• 40:22
  Speaker 6: finally figure out what you guys been talking about. Yeah,
• 40:27
  Speaker 6: And one thing I'm afraid of is I'm okay, given
• 40:32
  Speaker 6: the current let's say situation, quote unquote, I'm afraid that
• 40:38
  Speaker 6: the writers of Trek will feel that their love resist
• 40:45
  Speaker 6: stunts and start to put more stuff into track that
• 40:50
  Speaker 6: was starting to fade out and where whereby where it's
• 40:54
  Speaker 6: starting to get really good track, But then the resistance
• 40:59
  Speaker 6: might start becoming more active and the old you know,
• 41:05
  Speaker 6: the old habits come back. And that's my biggest fear
• 41:09
  Speaker 6: in the current situation.
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: You know, I I don't know if that would happen.
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: It might there might be like like shades of it,
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: But overall, you look at what happened with Disney, you
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: look at what happened with a few other film production companies,
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: and they're starting to lean like more towards we need
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: to just make products the way they were, right. We
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: need to just general audiences. You can't alienate. Right, the
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: audiences are so fragmented as it is, right, because you're
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: not just fighting against you know, they're not just fighting
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: against Disney and Fox and Sony for audiences, but they're
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: fighting against streamers and and YouTube and video games. Like
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: to get a viewer's attention takes so much nowadays, right,
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: So you want to give him a reason to shut
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: it off and move on to something else.
• 42:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I hope, I hope that's the case, because for
• 42:08
  Speaker 6: the sake of Truck and the whole franchise, you cannot
• 42:12
  Speaker 6: have what happened to Discovery to happen again.
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah right, yeah, yeah, Well, and Discovery was he got
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: too preachy as opposed to integrating into their stories. That
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: was the big problem, totally.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, I think Dan said it before. They
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: got like you just said preachy. They wanted to preach
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: instead of tell a good story.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: Right, right, Like you could have those elements, but you
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: have to weave it into the story and then it
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: makes more sense.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: It's like, uh, it's like Christian films, right, most people
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: don't watch because they're super preachy.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: Right. So yeah, yeah, although Dan might have liked the
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: preaching us, he's not here to defend himself. Yeah, he
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: loved he loved the preaching. Yeah, he wants more crying.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: Yes, that's why he's not here.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, it's emotional about the last time.
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: That's right.
• 43:12
  Speaker 6: I want to the franchise to be good again and
• 43:15
  Speaker 6: you know, tell really good stories and okay, a little
• 43:20
  Speaker 6: bit of a teaching uh mixed in, but you know,
• 43:24
  Speaker 6: uh in the way that the t O s did that.
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: It can be done.
• 43:30
  Speaker 6: It's just and I mean in TG.
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, it it's really well there. Yeah.
• 43:41
  Speaker 6: So I mean, I'm just seeing how you guys are thinking.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: But Jesus Dan isn't here because he's binging Discovery.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: I'm hoping to answer your question Hipster's back. I'm hoping
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: that it's not too late for the writers and showrunners
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: of the next iterations of Trek to learn the lessons Yeah,
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: like Academy to learn the lessons of the past. I
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: hope they take the best of what the last couple
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: of years, three years, four years of Star Trek a
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: bed yeah, and are able to incorporate that into Academy
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: and you know, the next seasons of Strange New Worlds.
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: I mean, they kind of learned that lesson with Strange
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: New Worlds.
• 44:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, right, entertaining. I thought there have been an
• 44:35
  Speaker 6: element of cringe here and there, but I mean they're experimenting,
• 44:39
  Speaker 6: so you know, you can give them a little leave
• 44:42
  Speaker 6: word because of that.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: Right. And Season one of Stranger Worlds was the best
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: Trek in my opinion, that we've had in twenty years.
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: True, I would say season three p card.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, Season three card pretty damn good. Season three
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: percard or Season one of Stranger Worlds was the best
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: tract we've had in twenty years. I mean not since
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: tng Era Trek. Right, those are those those two seasons
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: are up there with that. Yah. And and so most
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: I would imagine most people that listen to our show
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: or sort of tg era ish, right, you know, and
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: everybody's a fan of all Trek. You know, I'm a
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: fan of you know, the original series, you know, original series,
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: a Jason.
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: Fan, you know, thinking about it, like the Orville is
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: very preachy, it really is. It's so incorporated into their
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: stories that it makes more sense.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: Well, Seth MacFarland is pretty preachy, right, He's a pretty
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: he's a pretty left wing guy. You see a lot
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: of family guy. Yeah, but he's funny about it. He's
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: also he's also you know when it comes to like
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: his his sort of political leanings. He also pokes funded
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: himself too, So yeah, yeah.
• 45:57
  Speaker 6: Thanks for your input and keep up the good work.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: Thanks.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: I appreciate that.
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: And then we got Chaz Buz who's been waiting. Poor guy.
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: Let me bring him in there is.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: It's up Chaz biz so much?
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: Would you think of the episode?
• 46:16
  Speaker 7: I thought it was, Yeah, it happened. I thought it
• 46:23
  Speaker 7: was you know, this could have been a really good episode.
• 46:26
  Speaker 7: It just the main storyline was just kind of there
• 46:29
  Speaker 7: wasn't really a main storyline. There's just right, too many
• 46:32
  Speaker 7: mini stories. You had the doctor that couldn't feel pain, you.
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: Had, it was it was a storytelling trail mix. Yes,
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: there's just a little bit of everything.
• 46:41
  Speaker 7: Yeah, a little bit of everything was kind of messy.
• 46:43
  Speaker 7: It's all over the place. And I was like, what
• 46:45
  Speaker 7: was the a storyline? Was it the guys pretending to
• 46:49
  Speaker 7: be that alien Rice and then in their shape bug
• 46:53
  Speaker 7: shape ship?
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: I would say the space cows was the main one.
• 46:57
  Speaker 7: I know they're thinking maybe the space cows. Yeah, man
• 47:02
  Speaker 7: figure doing CrossFit.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: So yeah, it did seem like there was just several
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: p stories. Yeah, yeah, it was. There was a lot.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: So what did you think, chasmis? What did you think
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: about the new trailer for second second? Watched it?
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: Man, we'll get your favorite popcorn bucket and watch it.
• 47:25
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I'll get the Dune popcorn bucket.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: There you go, there you go.
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: I mean, after watching it, you may be so excited
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: that you need the Dune popcorn buckets.
• 47:37
  Speaker 7: So right, Yeah, it looks I don't know, I saw
• 47:45
  Speaker 7: the first trailer.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: It was.
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: It looks to me like we will have a lot
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: to say about it.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: The treck Ast episode after that movie comes out.
• 48:00
  Speaker 7: Yeah, or probably like two hours and forty minutes or something.
• 48:04
  Speaker 7: You know, all the streaming movies go longer than a
• 48:06
  Speaker 7: normal movie.
• 48:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 48:07
  Speaker 7: They don't believe in editing anymore, right, so they just like, hey,
• 48:11
  Speaker 7: we filmed it, just toss it on there.
• 48:13
  Speaker 6: And well it made me.
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: Wonder, Like, you know, they've in the past, they've released
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: episodes like in theaters, right, like a little one off
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: e ends. I wonder if they'll do that with this,
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: like the you know.
• 48:27
  Speaker 7: I'd probably rather see it in the theater because I
• 48:30
  Speaker 7: wouldn't be playing on my phone and.
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: Have the yeahs right, I was thinking about that.
• 48:35
  Speaker 7: If I watched it in the theater, I'd actually watch
• 48:38
  Speaker 7: the episode. If I watch it at home, I'm gonna
• 48:40
  Speaker 7: be so distracted.
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: See, in my house, there are multiple modes of TV
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: and movie viewing. You know, there's there and there's a
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: range from you know, like in the mornings and Sunday
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: mornings after the podcast, we just have this old house
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: playing in the background. We're walking around the house doing
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: our thing, and that's one into the spectrum. And the
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: other end of the spectrum is it's at night. We
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: make popcorn, we get everybody situated, we put on our jammies,
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: we turn off all the lights, and then we sit
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: we put our phones down, and then we watch a
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: movie nic okay, and there's everything sort of in between.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: So you know, for for this one, this is definitely
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: gonna be a uh, you know, to make the popcorn,
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: put the phones down, turn the lights off, because it's
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: it's I mean, it might be section thirty one, but
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: it's still a Star Trek movie.
• 49:27
  Speaker 7: So at night is that when you gag Chad so
• 49:30
  Speaker 7: you can shut up.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: That's right, Well, it's right. There's a there's like a
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: ballgag involved, and he lives in a box during certain
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: times of the day.
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, you know it does.
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: We'll say bring out the gimp, and I'll say gimp sleeping.
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: I literally just bought a new TV this Friday, so
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: the viewing my house has changed.
• 50:00
  Speaker 7: That's improved. What kind of TV?
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: I got a TLC.
• 50:06
  Speaker 7: TCL You mean t C L.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, don't go chase and waterfalls because I don't want
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: to strug. Yeah, oh boy, I'm old.
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: Ty J says I'm gonna watch the Trek cast and
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: decide if I'm going to watch section thirty one based
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: off the show's reaction.
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: Oh wow, good luck that dance reaction. Yeah, if that's yeah,
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: Dan's gotta make it for that show.
• 50:45
  Speaker 7: Make it for that one.
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: Dad, I don't care if your house burns out.
• 50:51
  Speaker 7: Dance wearing. He's stitching up his season one Discovery uniform, right.
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: That poor guy is gonna be out in the shuttle
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: craft in the middle of January. Oh god, yeah, talking
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: about this because you know that's not going to be
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: a one hour episode.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: No, it's not going to be at least minutes two hours.
• 51:08
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, you gotta do a frame by frame breakdown.
• 51:12
  Speaker 7: Oh god, do you like four hours of just going
• 51:16
  Speaker 7: frame by frame of the whole episode?
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: Or TV Dan will love that TV movie.
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: I forget the name of it, but there was a
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: podcast that would review one minute at a time of
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: The Fast and the Furious movies.
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah literally remember that. Yeah, well the.
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: Whole episode was just one minute.
• 51:40
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, it was like the Star Wars minute and
• 51:43
  Speaker 7: then they were Yeah, they started out with like the
• 51:46
  Speaker 7: first one, and then I guess maybe they did a
• 51:48
  Speaker 7: yeah Furious afterwards.
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of Star Wars, you guys watched a Skeleton
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: Crew yet I did. I haven't. I haven't.
• 51:55
  Speaker 7: It is good, actually like it. Yeah, the first episode,
• 51:59
  Speaker 7: I think it kind of drags at the beginning. Once
• 52:02
  Speaker 7: they get to the ship, all things like.
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: You know, set up ye story set up usually takes
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: a minute.
• 52:11
  Speaker 7: And there's like easter Eggs. We ever been to Disney World,
• 52:15
  Speaker 7: Like there's a little caffanillo.
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a caff easter egg. I got excited about that.
• 52:20
  Speaker 7: And they said the bus driver was like from Star
• 52:22
  Speaker 7: Cruise or whatever. Yeah, really yeah, Yeah, there's a little
• 52:27
  Speaker 7: Easter Eggs in there. And it's a cross between Dooon
• 52:30
  Speaker 7: East slash.
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: Let me give a reason why it's that way.
• 52:34
  Speaker 7: Uh huh, yes, yes, second episode kind of explains it.
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: I really like Jude Law as an actor.
• 52:41
  Speaker 7: Yeah, even though Law was barely in the first two episodes. Yeah,
• 52:46
  Speaker 7: but the setup was great.
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah. You come for Star Wars, you stay for Erkle because.
• 52:53
  Speaker 7: Yes, oh my god, like I sort of got this
• 52:58
  Speaker 7: guy looks like Steve Rkle, probably because it is.
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: Spottle. Yeah.
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: I'll probably watch those episodes this afternoon.
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 53:08
  Speaker 7: Yeah, he's dressed up with step On so.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah some.
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's see if he spots them.
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: What's the actor's name again? Yeah?
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: Okay, all right, well we only got two more episodes
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: of Lower Decks, so this is the big finale coming up.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: So are we doing We are going to do an
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: episode next weekend, and we are going to do an
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: episode the weekend after, which is the weekend before Christmas.
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would think, so okay, yeah, we've got a
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: Fisher request and the new Next Generation.
• 53:44
  Speaker 7: So the new Next Generation, man, I just hope they
• 53:48
  Speaker 7: tied up. Can you make a great finale? Can you
• 53:51
  Speaker 7: pull up card season three?
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: I think we're going to get the big Space battle.
• 53:56
  Speaker 7: I was like, please give us really think that's what
• 53:58
  Speaker 7: we're getting something good.
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: I bet the I bet the cliffhanger for the end
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: of next week's episode is the riff starts opening and
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: everybody starts coming through. It's yeah, I think you're right.
• 54:13
  Speaker 7: The better be the pack cloud.
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, well I I said I would talk to UH,
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: I would talk to my my peoples about getting a
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: packload review. Yeah, if they bring the pack loads, so
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: I will do that.
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe one open hailing frequencies so yep, it's all right.
• 54:32
  Speaker 7: Yeah, how would you email or send a message to
• 54:36
  Speaker 7: wonder I I I.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: Have their subsace frequency on my phone. That's right CB radio, right, yep,
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: exactly exactly, like.
• 54:45
  Speaker 7: Three hundred times before they figure out how to pick
• 54:48
  Speaker 7: it up.
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: Right exactly. Yeah. Yeah, my subspace band radio.
• 54:57
  Speaker 7: It's gonna start calling now because it's gonna be like
• 55:00
  Speaker 7: so many rings, right right.
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: All right, Well, anything else we want to bring up
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: before we wrap it up?
• 55:09
  Speaker 7: You know, there's no really sci fi or anything big
• 55:13
  Speaker 7: coming up.
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: I guess yeah, yeah, I.
• 55:16
  Speaker 7: Guess Disney figure out how to make a movie makes
• 55:22
  Speaker 7: but they keep on announcing movies and all the movies
• 55:25
  Speaker 7: like the.
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: Big Holiday movie that I see excitement for is Sonic three.
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: That's closest to like, not Sign two or Yeah.
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: I watched the first one and I hated it so
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: much that I haven't seen the other two.
• 55:39
  Speaker 7: Really.
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: Actually, I watched it with my nephews and niece and
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: they loved it, so.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: I might give it one more chance. I might give
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: it one more chance.
• 55:50
  Speaker 7: It was more Jim Carrey that kind of got me
• 55:52
  Speaker 7: on there.
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: Say I'd loved Gary growing up.
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so did I Yeah, yeah, yeah, and willing to
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: do a movie like this.
• 56:00
  Speaker 7: Yeah right, I act like doctor Yeah, all right, it's
• 56:06
  Speaker 7: kind of funny. This is like the only movie Jim
• 56:07
  Speaker 7: Carrey will do is the Sonic movies. I think it's Yeah,
• 56:12
  Speaker 7: I think he's having fun.
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: I think yeah, no, I think he just enjoys.
• 56:16
  Speaker 7: I think he's just having fun.
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: They got like Keanu Reeves in the next one. That's ridiculous.
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean you guys hedgehogs.
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: And then they're just like, you need to be in
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: the booth for a few days, go do it? Okay,
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: all right, yeah.
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: You still it was Yeah, here's a quarter million dollars, Yeah, motorcycle.
• 56:40
  Speaker 7: You got syclops in there, and they're like, who's got Cyclops?
• 56:44
  Speaker 7: So yeah, it's got James.
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: Martinsen, James Marson. Yeah, I like him, Homo Zone.
• 56:51
  Speaker 7: James mars since that's their only like superhero Cyclops that
• 56:55
  Speaker 7: they killed off.
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: Did you ever watch his show Jury Duty?
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: No?
• 57:01
  Speaker 7: I need to watch it. I hear it's hilarious.
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: No, it was on free V, which I guess is
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: gone now on Amazon. But it's the premise was it's
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: a reality show where James Marsden is on a jury,
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: but really they're just punking one guy. The whole jury
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: is fake.
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: Oh I do remember that? Yeah, I do remember that.
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: It's really good man that comes.
• 57:29
  Speaker 7: Back to get called in for Jerry duty. Right, and
• 57:33
  Speaker 7: you have to do this show for Jerry duty. Yeah,
• 57:36
  Speaker 7: and they're filming a TV show then after that you
• 57:39
  Speaker 7: get called in for Jerry duty.
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: Right all right?
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: Well cool, well thanks jazz Biz.
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks jazz Biz.
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 57:56
  Speaker 7: So okay, I'll have my Hunter gear on and camouflage,
• 58:01
  Speaker 7: so who knows, So I'm just making fun.
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: So okay, thanks buddy, all.
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: Right, take care all right, well uh yeah, thanks for
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: thanks for listening everybody. Daniel, did you have anything else?
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: Phone number? Do you want to leave? Us a voicemail
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: five seven zero six six one zero zero zero one.
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: Leave us a voicemail. We'd love to play that. And
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: then also, we are on social media everywhere as treck
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: Cast TNG, so be there and uh, you know, give
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: us your thoughts.
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, we'll be back next week, all right, Uh, Daniel,
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: you stick around for just a second after you sure?
• 58:47
  Speaker 7: Sure?
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: I want to talk production for a second.
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: Okay, I'll talk you guys later.
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: All right, take care, everybody. Bye.
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