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Off the Scrub with Kaitlyn Bristowe · Scrubbing In with Becca Tilley & Tanya Rad

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Speaker 1: Scrubbing In with Beca Tilly and Tanya rad and iHeartRadio
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Speaker 1: and two time People's Choice Award winning podcast.
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Speaker 2: Hello everybody, we are scrubbing.
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Speaker 3: In, scrubbing In, Scrubbing.
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Speaker 2: We have a very special guest joining us in studio,
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Speaker 2: Kaitlin Bristow. Okay, we normally say it like, we normally
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Speaker 2: have our regular episodes on Monday, and then we have
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Speaker 2: our guest episodes on Thursday. But you're special a Monday guest?
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Speaker 3: Is it because I've really got nothing going on? And
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Speaker 3: you're like, we'll just have her as a filler. No, no,
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Speaker 3: because things are sacred.
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Speaker 1: And like our scribbers prefer our Monday episodes because it's
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Speaker 1: just us. They don't really, I mean, they like guests,
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Speaker 1: but I feel like that they prefer the ones that
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Speaker 1: are just us. But we feel like you're a good
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Speaker 1: enough guest that you belong, like in the mix.
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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, because you're there.
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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, you're like a third host.
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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I feel that welcome.
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Speaker 2: I was just saying, last time you were on the
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Speaker 2: podcast was twenty twenty two over Zoom.
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Speaker 3: Wild Time, Wild Time. But why were we still in
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Speaker 3: Zoom in twenty twenty two?
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Speaker 2: I don't think we were still into I think it
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Speaker 2: was just CHITLN was gone. Yeah okay, And I don't
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Speaker 2: remember what if you were promoting something or if I
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Speaker 2: was just like, has.
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Speaker 3: This thing got to be in the way of our eyesight?
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Speaker 2: I know, okay, I know, I'll get over.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, twenty twenty two feels like it was yesterday. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 3: I'm scared.
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Speaker 2: I know.
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Speaker 3: Isn't that crazy? The passage of time really freaks me out.
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Speaker 2: Okay, wait, I just listened to your podcast when you
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Speaker 2: were talking about the passage of time, and it got
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Speaker 2: me feeling anxious about the passage of time because I
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Speaker 2: don't think about that in those terms. I have a
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Speaker 2: like a societal fear of aging in terms of like
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Speaker 2: how my body and face and all that stuff, but
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Speaker 2: in terms But then I'm like, oh, it's such a
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Speaker 2: privilege to age, so I go there. But you started
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Speaker 2: talking about the passage of time that comes along with aging,
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Speaker 2: and then I was like, I got kind of dark.
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Speaker 3: So I'm sorry. I probably did that for a lot
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Speaker 3: of people. It is dark, though, Like I feel like
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Speaker 3: there's a glitch in the matrix and like time is
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Speaker 3: moving faster than normal.
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Speaker 1: I think it's getting older because I feel like because
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Speaker 1: my parents always said that, yeah, because I feel like
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Speaker 1: we were little and we're like, oh, like the school
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Speaker 1: year is so long, and now we're like, oh.
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Speaker 3: My gosh, it's Christmas tomorrow, you know what I mean. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: everything happens so fast. I think you're right because my
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Speaker 3: dad was like, well, wait until you turn fifty, because
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Speaker 3: I think about how fast my thirties just went. And
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Speaker 3: I'm turning forty in like two months, which is wild
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Speaker 3: barely birthday, thank you. And then I'm like, well, then
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Speaker 3: I'm going to be fifty before you're not, because my
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Speaker 3: thirties passive us. And then I'm like, it all just
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Speaker 3: scares me so much. But like you said, it's so
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Speaker 3: confusing because you're it. I've always focused on like aging's bad,
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Speaker 3: and then I did this whole like inner child work
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Speaker 3: retreat and realize like what a privilege to live? What
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Speaker 3: the alternative? But then it's just also confusing because it's
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Speaker 3: just it's a lot. It is a lot.
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Speaker 2: I also, you were saying it was like something that
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Speaker 2: your grandpa like instilled in your mind, so then your
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Speaker 2: mom like.
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Speaker 3: It was, yeah, it's passed down.
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Speaker 2: I do think that, Yeah, not so much like my
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Speaker 2: mom didn't focus a lot on like her looks or anything.
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Speaker 2: But there is something I wonder with our generation that
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Speaker 2: I wonder. I wonder if the next generation is either
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Speaker 2: gonna be way worse or if.
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Speaker 1: They'll be more like I think it's because we're seeing
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Speaker 1: all like on our like social media pages, we're seeing
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Speaker 1: these twenty year olds with like no pores and like
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Speaker 1: smooth skin, and they're just like in our feed twenty
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Speaker 1: four seven are.
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Speaker 3: Starting skincare at like seven. Yeah, it's it's I just
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Speaker 3: I'm like, well, I wish I thought of that.
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Speaker 2: I know, literally I had Doctor Bubber chapstick as my lipstick.
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Speaker 1: Like we like literally sat in the sun all day.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what is that stuff that? It was
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Speaker 3: like the like bronze do it like attracted the sun
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Speaker 3: more Hawaiian Hawaiian tropics or whatever. Yeah, I don't know
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Speaker 3: it was. It had a yellow top. I don't know. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: but like I can you said the doctor pepper lips maas. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: I smelled it when you said that, and I just
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Speaker 3: smelled the tanning. Yeah that happen, do you guys? Yeah?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it takes memories. Smells like sense of uli.
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Speaker 3: Is my favorite feeling in the world. And I just
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Speaker 3: did a deep dive on it. And it's because it
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Speaker 3: like brings you back to such a simple time. Ye
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Speaker 3: like when you felt joy. I just got goosebumps. I
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Speaker 3: just love nostylegia so much. Wait, you brought up your birthday.
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Speaker 3: Do you have plans? I means to freak you out?
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Speaker 3: Plan And I feel like forty is so chic.
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Speaker 2: I really it's Jennifer Aniston.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like the new twenty and I've read so much,
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Speaker 3: Like so many people that are in their forties. Everyone
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Speaker 3: talks about how wonderful it is, and so I'm actually not,
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Speaker 3: like it just sounds so much older, Like my age
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Speaker 3: sounds serious, but I'm not serious. Yeah, And you know
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Speaker 3: there's also everyone says like, ah, you do you feel
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Speaker 3: pressure about where you're supposed to be at? And I
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Speaker 3: was like, I actually don't, Like I think I'm supposed
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Speaker 3: to be where I am, but I don't have plans
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Speaker 3: because I am the worst planner in the world. Like
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Speaker 3: I am such a tight b person and I need
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Speaker 3: somebody to just do it for me. There's this girl
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Speaker 3: who is a company. Her name's Anna. How genius is
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Speaker 3: this up Anna Away? And she like, does plan to travel?
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Speaker 3: I need to just contact her because I need to
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Speaker 3: plan something. Forty is a big deal. Yeah, you have
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Speaker 3: to plan. I have nothing planned, Hannah, Hannah, help me.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love Annaway.
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Speaker 3: That's a genius, right. Yeah. I would like to do
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Speaker 3: something like go to Europe. But then I have this
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Speaker 3: guilt of making people come to Europe for me. I
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Speaker 3: don't know me start on that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, with the wedding stuff, that's all. I just felt
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Speaker 1: guilt the entire time.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you shouldn't. I'm like, I, yeah, you know,
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Speaker 3: I hear you say that, and I'm like, no, that's silly. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 3: but I feel that. Yeah, it's real.
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Speaker 2: But it's funny because if someone's putting in the effort
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Speaker 2: to go to Europe, it's because they want to go
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Speaker 2: to Europe. Yeah, to celebrate you.
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Speaker 3: I hope they just don't feel like they have to.
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Speaker 2: I don't think it's one thing to go to dinner.
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Speaker 2: It's one thing to feel like you have to go
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Speaker 2: to dinner. It's another to feel like you have to
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Speaker 2: go to Europe.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't want anyone feel like they have to come,
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Speaker 3: Like I'll be mad.
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Speaker 2: If they don't.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, like I'm not twelve anymore, but I'm I
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Speaker 3: just want like my favorite people there.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you were to do a birthday trip, how
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Speaker 2: many people does your favorite people entail? Because sometimes if
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Speaker 2: you get too big, it's like I want like, okay,
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Speaker 2: it's good.
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Speaker 3: I want like my childhood friends. Did you say that's
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Speaker 3: a lot?
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Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh no, I was not thinking a lot?
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Speaker 3: Oh wow, Well and then I'm like do they bring
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Speaker 3: their significant others? And then oh yeah, I don't know.
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Speaker 3: Yeah I do like their significant others. Okay, yeah, like
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Speaker 3: very they're also I'm so close with all that. Then yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 3: yeah I.
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Speaker 2: Should do like a house in my Orca or something.
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Speaker 3: Okay, I was thinking about that too, or like the
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Speaker 3: Bahamas is get some villas. Yeah, like a private chef
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Speaker 3: or something. Maybe you could do like a happy medium
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Speaker 3: between Europe and somewhere else. And I wanted to be
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Speaker 3: like how My girlfriend Penny asked me such a good question.
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Speaker 3: She goes, well, what what do you want this to
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Speaker 3: be about?
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Speaker 2: Like?
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Speaker 3: Is it about how you're gonna feel? Is it about
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Speaker 3: like just throwing this big, crazy party? And I was
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Speaker 3: like no, I actually just want to feel like safe
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Speaker 3: and happy and be like, oh my god, these are
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Speaker 3: my people. Yeah, And she's like, well, then you can
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Speaker 3: do that like in your backyard if you want, true,
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Speaker 3: which also I would think would be so fun to
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Speaker 3: do a little long table dinner in my backyard. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: or rager in your backyard. Rage. I just built a
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Speaker 3: pool in my backyard so I could have like a
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Speaker 3: DJ and a pool party. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you could really get.
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Speaker 3: Crazy and get in the cold plunge. Yeah, and then
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Speaker 3: you can have more people.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I know, the possibilities are endless.
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Speaker 2: Really. It is interesting though, because I every time I've
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Speaker 2: always thought about the age of forty for some reason,
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Speaker 2: I think I think I remember Jennifer Annison turning forty,
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Speaker 2: so like that in my mind she's forever forty, but yeah,
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Speaker 2: she's not anymore. And so I've always been like, oh
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Speaker 2: my gosh, I like, don't fear forty because of Jennifer
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Speaker 2: Anison turning forty. Yeah, But when I think about myself
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Speaker 2: turning forty, I'm like, oh my gosh, how am I?
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Speaker 2: How am I?
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Speaker 3: It's a trip? Yeah, it's an actual trip. Kisses me off.
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Speaker 2: I't is that we do have these like.
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Speaker 1: Even though it's not societal pressures, it's like actual biological pressures.
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Speaker 3: That what pisses me off, do you know what I mean?
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Speaker 1: I get that, Like that's where I get like annoyed
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Speaker 1: because I'm like, yes, so I'm thirty seven, about to
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Speaker 1: be thirty eight, and I'm like in the whole wanting
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Speaker 1: a baby phase right now, and I'm like, Okay, well,
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Speaker 1: I can't wait.
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Speaker 3: Too long because you're geriatric now.
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Speaker 2: No.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been geriatric for years, so I've got past that.
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Speaker 1: But it's just like I don't know, that's what like
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Speaker 1: pisses me off about.
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Speaker 3: I know, age is really just that did you freeze
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Speaker 3: your eggs? No? Okay, did you freeze yours? Yeah? Okay
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Speaker 3: I did when I was thirty two, and I'm really
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Speaker 3: happy I did it. But also like like for my
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Speaker 3: fortieth birthday, I'm getting my fibroids removed, Like how old
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Speaker 3: does that feel?
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Speaker 2: Like?
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Speaker 3: I have fibroids all over my uterus?
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Speaker 2: Tho, oh, do you have horrible periods?
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Speaker 3: Horrible?
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
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Speaker 3: Like like what's a fibroid?
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Speaker 2: Do you have an ometriosis?
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Speaker 3: I don't, I might, but how do they test for that?
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Speaker 1: So it's hard to test for, like you basically have to,
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Speaker 1: like I think you have to for them to know
8:52
Speaker 1: for I don't know. I'm not going to speak because
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Speaker 1: I'm not a doctor, but like I got I got tested,
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Speaker 1: and she's like, you can't know for sure unless something,
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Speaker 1: And I guess I think it's like you are pregnant.
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Speaker 3: Are you trying to get pregnant or something. Yeah, I
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Speaker 3: feel like it's something of course that we have to
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Speaker 3: like find out the hard way. Yeah, but I am
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Speaker 3: in so much pain, Like I will lay on the
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Speaker 3: bathroom floor and like black out from pain, like I'll
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Speaker 3: see stars because the pain is so bad. I know.
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Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad you're getting that taken care of.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, but I'm like, what a forty year
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Speaker 3: old thing to do, like going in to get my
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Speaker 3: fabroids moved so that maybe we're not now baby, you're
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Speaker 3: gonna do that literally like June twenty second, my birthdays
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Speaker 3: June nineteenth. Honestly, it's smart, I know, because I'm like
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Speaker 3: I do I do still believe like there's a chance
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Speaker 3: for me to have a baby. Yeah, I say, Now,
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Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe I'll just get a turkey baster.
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Speaker 2: And well, That's why I was gonna ask you that,
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Speaker 2: because since I know I.
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Speaker 3: Just had a baby, how old is she? Forty? Thinks
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Speaker 3: jam Jackson had a baby at like fifty two.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Courtney Kardashian she's forty six. Yeah, and her baby is
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Speaker 1: a year difficult it was for her. It was difficult,
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Speaker 1: but you know, good things don't come easy.
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Speaker 3: Amen.
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Speaker 2: I feel like since we met, which, by the way,
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Speaker 2: can you believe now, yeah, a decade has passed since
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Speaker 2: the season well, I mean actually longer, it'd be like
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Speaker 2: eleven years since we met, actually coming out eleven years.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Because I'm rewatching my season of The Bachelorette for
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Speaker 3: the ten year anniversary, and I thought it would be like, well,
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Speaker 3: like what a funny time. I'm like sobbing in each episode,
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Speaker 3: just being like I feel sick. I didn't realize how
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Speaker 3: much it was going to bring up for me. I
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Speaker 3: like went to drive somewhere after I was like shaking,
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Speaker 3: like it's really bringing up a lot for me. Wait
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Speaker 3: what d I don't know. I think it was just
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Speaker 3: such a like I was so fragile in that day
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Speaker 3: being there and so confused, and I like watching it back,
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Speaker 3: I feel so sad for myself because I was like
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Speaker 3: really going through it, like I just will never forget
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Speaker 3: how much hair I lost, and like like I just
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Speaker 3: was like under so much stress, and I like look
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Speaker 3: back at it and I'm like, oh, it was that
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Speaker 3: where like it was it was like the bad guy
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Speaker 3: who made you feel desired and you were like, yeah,
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Speaker 3: so crazy, But then there's the guy that you actually
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Speaker 3: really love and you're like just given, like it's just here,
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Speaker 3: you go have both and you're like okay, and then
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Speaker 3: it's fun till it's not. Yeah, and I just I'm like, wow,
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Speaker 3: I really hurt people's feelings and I really made so
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Speaker 3: many mistakes, but I would do it the same if
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Speaker 3: I did it again. And I just like, I don't know,
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Speaker 3: I want to go in through the screen and like
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Speaker 3: hug that version of me because I was just going
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Speaker 3: through it. Yeah yeah, And I just haven't rewatched it.
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Speaker 1: I it's probably like when you're like saying that like
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Speaker 1: the guy that's like bad for you, but you like
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Speaker 1: the attention, and I'm like we've all been there, yeah,
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Speaker 1: And like it's in my mind if I had to
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Speaker 1: like watch that on like an actual TV, I think
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Speaker 1: it would make me, like really upset too.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't believe how much it actually is bringing
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Speaker 3: up for me. I'm like, why did I do this
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Speaker 3: to myself? And then I'm going to interview like some
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Speaker 3: of the guys after and then I'm like, god, got
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Speaker 3: myself got how good of a group of guys?
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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, she had a really good group of guys.
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Speaker 3: Yes, Ben Higgins one that got away Becca for both
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Speaker 3: of us, Yeah, Ben, Ben and Jared shared, Yeah, obviously
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Speaker 3: Nick and Sean and then like ben z Yeah, ben Zorn, Yeah,
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Speaker 3: ben Zorn, what a sweetie?
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Speaker 2: No? Yeah, who else?
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Speaker 3: There's one more than I Wasner Tanner, Yeah, that's what
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Speaker 3: I was gonna say, Yeah, Tanner, Yeah, so many goodies.
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Speaker 2: Is it weird for you because the season ended with
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Speaker 2: you getting engaged to Sean? You'll had like a long
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Speaker 2: how long were you engaged?
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Speaker 3: Almost four years? Four years, three and a half.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then it ends and obviously there's been time,
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Speaker 2: But is it weird to like transport yourself back into
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Speaker 2: that space of watching you fall in love with him?
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Speaker 3: Yes, it's really really strange because it ended on such
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Speaker 3: a bad note when we did break up, and now
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Speaker 3: it's obviously time is heals all and like helps, but
12:50
Speaker 3: seeing just how intense that relationship was and just how
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Speaker 3: badly it did end, but we had so many great
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Speaker 3: times to get it's really hard to put myself back
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Speaker 3: in that position because I'm like, I'd never felt that
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Speaker 3: way in my whole life. I mean, there was this
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Speaker 3: guy that I'll never forget and I talk about him
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Speaker 3: like eight million times on my podcast and I need
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Speaker 3: to shut up because he was like the one that
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Speaker 3: got away from me when I was like twenty six.
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Speaker 3: But I had never felt like that about anyone as
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Speaker 3: instantaneous as it was with Sean, And so it's so
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Speaker 3: weird to watch it back because I'm like, wow, yeah,
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Speaker 3: I've never felt like I've never felt that before. And
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Speaker 3: it's like sad how it all went down. I guess
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Speaker 3: I would never, you know, wanted to. It all worked
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Speaker 3: out the way it of course, but it's still weird
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Speaker 3: and sad. Can you?
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Speaker 1: And you can not answer the question if you've chosen
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Speaker 1: not to share, But what happened with you guys?
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Speaker 3: I think it just was a really like I didn't
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Speaker 3: realize it was so ugly only at the end because
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Speaker 3: he was so mad that I moved on really fast.
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Speaker 3: I think that's where it got ugly got it. But
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Speaker 3: like the breakup was like no natural, like just like
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Speaker 3: natural causes. I just didn't feel loved at all. And
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Speaker 3: I don't think I made him feel loved. I think
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Speaker 3: it was just a toxic kind of relationship that was
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Speaker 3: not like hurting people. Yeah, it was e satuation at first, yeah,
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Speaker 3: but then it was so real and then I don't know,
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Speaker 3: I just think we were we were building a really
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Speaker 3: insecure relationship off a really shitty foundation of like no
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Speaker 3: trust when he had trust issues, Dame, I know. Yeah, Well,
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Speaker 3: I feel like you learn so much from that, do
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Speaker 3: you know what I mean?
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Speaker 1: Learn from that, so then you bring that into like
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Speaker 1: everything moving forward, which is kind of a blessing.
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Speaker 3: And like last night, I was at this Hulu event
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Speaker 3: and People magazine brought him up, and I'm like, it's
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Speaker 3: so funny that we still talk about him ten years later.
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Speaker 3: But obviously it was such a big part of the
14:46
Speaker 3: show that everybody watched, and I was like, I wanted
14:50
Speaker 3: to promote his new gym. I was like, I wanted to, like,
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Speaker 3: I just feel happy for where he's at in life
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Speaker 3: and where we're at, and I have a lot of
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Speaker 3: like compassion and forgiveness for both of us for what
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Speaker 3: we had to go through. Have y'all talked Yeah, a
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Speaker 3: little bit, like.
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Speaker 2: In a cordial way.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Oh wow, that's amazing, because I think the last time
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Speaker 2: I talked to you, it hadn't Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Why I held on to anger for quite a bit. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: but it's so different now. I actually moved into my
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Speaker 3: new house like a year and a half ago, not even,
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Speaker 3: and I was going through all these suitcases in my closet.
15:21
Speaker 3: I was like, I gotta donate some of these suitcases
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Speaker 3: because why do I have like twenty And so I'm
15:25
Speaker 3: going through each one and I opened one and it
15:26
Speaker 3: was like all his stuff. It's so much of his stuff.
15:29
Speaker 3: And I started sabbing because Tucker's hair was in there,
15:32
Speaker 3: and the U and the dog. I was like, oh
15:34
Speaker 3: my god.
15:34
Speaker 2: It was like a little piece of Tucker was still
15:36
Speaker 2: tucked in the suitcase.
15:37
Speaker 3: And it was all of his like tax paperwork, and
15:41
Speaker 3: I was like, oh my gosh. And so I dropped
15:43
Speaker 3: it off to him and yeah, yeah, have you sent
15:46
Speaker 3: his baby a gift? Oh? Should I define? So that's
15:51
Speaker 3: why my mind went there. But you know, and oh,
15:53
Speaker 3: my god, I think that would he would be like,
15:56
Speaker 3: don't He's like, We're good at it's little line passive
16:00
Speaker 3: as right, yeah, yeah, yeah, except it looked like I'm
16:03
Speaker 3: being nice.
16:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was cute. It was Taylor Swift she
16:06
Speaker 2: did it.
16:07
Speaker 3: I think it was Joan Sophie. Really she sent them
16:11
Speaker 3: a baby gift. Do you think that's appropriate?
16:13
Speaker 2: I think that it depends.
16:15
Speaker 3: I guess where you are. Yeah, relationship.
16:17
Speaker 2: I think y'all having cord of conversations just just fine. Yeah.
16:20
Speaker 2: I was gonna ask though, because you said you moved
16:23
Speaker 2: on fast from that relationship. Yeah, and then that relationship.
16:27
Speaker 2: Obviously we don't we will limit how much we speak
16:31
Speaker 2: of no movie. But do you think because like you
16:35
Speaker 2: were coming out of an insecure, toxic relationship jumping right
16:39
Speaker 2: into another relationship, like, do you feel like there was
16:41
Speaker 2: a part of you that hadn't healed, something that needed
16:43
Speaker 2: to be healed? One?
16:44
Speaker 3: I do it every time.
16:46
Speaker 2: I do it every time.
16:47
Speaker 3: I literally the guy that I was talking about, the
16:49
Speaker 3: one that got away. As as soon as Sean walked
16:51
Speaker 3: out of the limo, I was like, he looks like
16:53
Speaker 3: my ex. He's the one, and I'm going to fix
16:55
Speaker 3: what I didn't fix in the last relationship, and I do.
16:57
Speaker 3: I do this all the time. This is your twenty
16:59
Speaker 3: six year old self. Where is he now?
17:01
Speaker 1: I'm oh, married with a baby, fit okay before dang okay, yeah, oh,
17:07
Speaker 1: dang okay.
17:08
Speaker 2: Wait. So when you say you're gonna fix it, you
17:10
Speaker 2: couldn't fix before, fix him, or fix the relationship or
17:13
Speaker 2: fix yourself. Me.
17:14
Speaker 3: Oh, and like, I'm gonna make it better this time,
17:17
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna do what I did, and then when
17:18
Speaker 3: I move on to the next that person has what
17:20
Speaker 3: that person didn't have it. I'm in such a different
17:23
Speaker 3: place in my life now where I'm like, oh, I'm
17:25
Speaker 3: like a whole I feel very I feel the most
17:28
Speaker 3: confident I've ever felt in my life right now. Yeah.
17:30
Speaker 3: I don't feel like I need to do that anymore.
17:32
Speaker 2: Yeah.
17:32
Speaker 3: Nice. I'm so happy to hear that hyper independent, which
17:36
Speaker 3: is like problem is because I'm like I known forever yeah,
17:41
Speaker 3: or like long distance forever. Like I'm so hyper independent
17:45
Speaker 3: that my therapist always tells me that's like a trauma
17:47
Speaker 3: response to So I'm like, god, no, you're.
17:49
Speaker 1: Something so true because it's so funny. Is I can't
17:53
Speaker 1: remember I was dating somebody. I was dating somebody who
17:57
Speaker 1: was like almost fifty and he had never been so
17:59
Speaker 1: he was single for like the majority of his life.
18:02
Speaker 1: And my therapist at the time that time I was
18:04
Speaker 1: dating him, she was like, you get stuck in your
18:07
Speaker 1: like not single ways, but like when you live so
18:10
Speaker 1: much of your life independent and single, you create certain
18:13
Speaker 1: habits that like are hard to break when like because
18:17
Speaker 1: relationships do come with compromise and like living with somebody
18:19
Speaker 1: and like you know what i mean, like all that
18:20
Speaker 1: type of stuff.
18:21
Speaker 3: It was like just such an interesting perspective because yeah,
18:24
Speaker 3: it is a happy medium. Well, and I'm so scared
18:27
Speaker 3: of like men and I'm just like, what's the next
18:32
Speaker 3: one gonna do? That shocks me? Like yeah, I always
18:35
Speaker 3: just like I'm like fully like in I feel like
18:38
Speaker 3: I'm so like, yeah, I'm always in fight or flight,
18:40
Speaker 3: which I'm like, I'm so healed and I'm whole, but
18:43
Speaker 3: I'm also the human and totally feel like I'm protecting
18:47
Speaker 3: my piece so much to a like fault now at
18:50
Speaker 3: this point in my life.
18:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think that's so normal. And also, like
18:54
Speaker 2: you said, you're a human and like we're flawed and
18:57
Speaker 2: and if the pattern is persistent. How would do not think?
19:00
Speaker 2: Like how why wanted this next person do?
19:03
Speaker 3: What the poor next person?
19:05
Speaker 2: Oh? Is there a next person right now? I mean
19:09
Speaker 2: I am.
19:09
Speaker 3: I have made it so clear on like social media
19:13
Speaker 3: and podcasts. I'm like, I just want my dating life
19:17
Speaker 3: to be a little sacred right now, and like keep
19:19
Speaker 3: it close because I I just think the minute you
19:23
Speaker 3: expose a relationship, it invites everybody into obviously have opinions
19:28
Speaker 3: and you know how it goes. And so I'm like,
19:31
Speaker 3: I will share when I'm married and like pregnant, be like, hey,
19:34
Speaker 3: now now you can know. Like I'm just so I'm
19:37
Speaker 3: keeping it so close.
19:39
Speaker 2: Oh my wow, I get it. I mean Haley and
19:41
Speaker 2: I were private for four years because I was like,
19:44
Speaker 2: I don't feel I just didn't feel like I could
19:47
Speaker 2: handle any criticism or opinions on it until I was
19:50
Speaker 2: ready to, and like it felt it was so nice
19:53
Speaker 2: having it. And then at the same time, it's like
19:55
Speaker 2: we we share what we want to share, right, we
19:58
Speaker 2: don't share what we don't want to share, hiding like no, no,
20:01
Speaker 2: we just didn't.
20:04
Speaker 1: That's what I also feel like, I want to go
20:05
Speaker 1: back to what you said about what I can't remember
20:07
Speaker 1: exactly what you said.
20:08
Speaker 3: You said, poor next guy or whatever like that. But no,
20:11
Speaker 3: we do that.
20:12
Speaker 2: Let's take a break.
20:13
Speaker 3: I was about to Tony Robbins your ass.
20:34
Speaker 2: All right, we're back. Go ahead, Tony Robbins, Away, Tanya,
20:37
Speaker 2: Tony Robins.
20:38
Speaker 1: Yea, Tony Robins, you are not not poor next guy.
20:42
Speaker 1: You are so accomplished. You have so much going for you.
20:46
Speaker 1: You should be so proud of the person, the woman
20:48
Speaker 1: that you are and what you've built for yourself and
20:50
Speaker 1: the next person, the next guy, the next whatever comes
20:53
Speaker 1: into your life. Is so lucky to be able to
20:56
Speaker 1: have that and to be able to experience that, and
21:00
Speaker 1: you should have that perspective because I really believe that
21:02
Speaker 1: about you, and you should believe it about yourself.
21:06
Speaker 2: She's a woman of words.
21:07
Speaker 1: Really, I'm like, okay, Tony, Yeah, But it's so easy
21:12
Speaker 1: to like because I've been there. I've been there, like
21:14
Speaker 1: I always like, I feel like there was so many
21:16
Speaker 1: and I'm like so mad that for so many years
21:18
Speaker 1: I was like what's wrong with me? Because I love
21:21
Speaker 1: so fiercely, or like I'm so embarrassing or like whatever,
21:24
Speaker 1: and I used to internalize it and I'm like, no,
21:26
Speaker 1: like the right guy came into my life and he's
21:28
Speaker 1: like obsessed.
21:29
Speaker 3: With all that about me totally, and the internet likes
21:32
Speaker 3: to guess light me into thinking I'm like the worst,
21:35
Speaker 3: So I'm like, is it me? Oh, but no, I
21:38
Speaker 3: agree with you, and I do feel proud and I
21:40
Speaker 3: do feel like whoever I'm with will be lucky because
21:42
Speaker 3: I really do believe I am a catch but for
21:45
Speaker 3: so many reasons. But I also do come with like
21:48
Speaker 3: such a guarded heart.
21:49
Speaker 1: But so does everybody, by the way, Like I honestly,
21:52
Speaker 1: like I really. What I've also realized is like every
21:55
Speaker 1: single person has some sort of issues that they are
21:58
Speaker 1: dealing with from like their childhood. Even if you grew
22:00
Speaker 1: up in like a perfect loving home, like you have
22:02
Speaker 1: issues from like the school, playground.
22:05
Speaker 2: Or like whatever.
22:06
Speaker 3: Everybody's carrying something. Yeah, I'm just laughing because I just
22:11
Speaker 3: thought of like these mean girls in the fifth grade
22:13
Speaker 3: I got in this fight with like all the girls
22:15
Speaker 3: turned against me. I can't even remember why. But whatever
22:18
Speaker 3: age you are in the fifth grade, like ten, I
22:20
Speaker 3: don't know, yeah, eleven, and they all turned on me
22:22
Speaker 3: and they all chanted your butt's as big as a garbage.
22:26
Speaker 3: I'm like, and I'm like, I laugh. But I remember
22:29
Speaker 3: going home and sobbing, yeah, because of what I'm like.
22:32
Speaker 3: I was literally like thirty pounds soaking web. But they
22:34
Speaker 3: were telling me my butts said, I feel like I'm
22:38
Speaker 3: high right now.
22:38
Speaker 2: You should make that like put a little jingle behind
22:42
Speaker 2: it and make it a little chant on off the vine.
22:44
Speaker 3: Yeah, just like. And I heard those girls listen and
22:47
Speaker 3: they're like, oh, it's me.
22:48
Speaker 2: I bet they listen to everything you do and watch everything.
22:51
Speaker 3: Really scary is I posted a TikTok and somebody on
22:54
Speaker 3: a like it was like a no picture, Yeah, yeah,
22:57
Speaker 3: of course apple, use are nine eight whatever? And they
23:01
Speaker 3: were like, I can't I can't believe they've made this
23:03
Speaker 3: girl famous. I used to work with her at Cactus Club,
23:06
Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh, you're the scary ones because you
23:08
Speaker 3: like know me and I've probably been nice to you
23:11
Speaker 3: and we work together. And I always think about that.
23:14
Speaker 3: With really nasty people, sometimes I get like the worse
23:16
Speaker 3: kind of messages and I'm like, like, do I know
23:19
Speaker 3: you from school or something? I don't know what's scarce.
23:21
Speaker 2: I'm curious why it is. It is like profoundly strange
23:26
Speaker 2: to me. Why you get such like mean comments and
23:32
Speaker 2: messages because I think what it I think where I
23:35
Speaker 2: get confused is that there's been so many people since
23:38
Speaker 2: you were on the show who have been very confident
23:41
Speaker 2: and like about their sexuality and been bold and like,
23:46
Speaker 2: you know, you kind of changed the game in the
23:48
Speaker 2: Bachelorette world yea, in bachelor world in general, but like
23:51
Speaker 2: without you, those girls would not be able to like
23:54
Speaker 2: freely say, but you're the one who gets like so much,
23:58
Speaker 2: I can't you can't do anything.
24:00
Speaker 3: It's really crazy. It's I mean, the misogyny in this
24:03
Speaker 3: world is so real first of all, and so I
24:05
Speaker 3: can't do anything right. But it's yeah, it feels like
24:09
Speaker 3: but I'm like sad for those people that are so mean,
24:11
Speaker 3: Like well, yeah, I mean, it's it's actually sad. But
24:14
Speaker 3: I was thinking about that because I'll never forget just
24:17
Speaker 3: getting like absolutely slutshamed from my season and just like
24:20
Speaker 3: people like i'got about it that I can't wait till
24:23
Speaker 3: I get to the mentel All episode when Chris Harrison
24:26
Speaker 3: reads the mean tweets that I get, like from people
24:28
Speaker 3: on the internet and they were like, shut your whore
24:30
Speaker 3: legs and die in a dumpster, like I got it bad.
24:33
Speaker 3: And then Hannah Brown was like I had sex four
24:35
Speaker 3: times in a windmill and like doing this and the
24:38
Speaker 3: crowd goes wild, and I was like part of me
24:41
Speaker 3: was like oh, and then part of me was like, no,
24:43
Speaker 3: that's awesome because I like that that changed the game. Yeah,
24:46
Speaker 3: I like that. People will celebrate her now for that. Who,
24:49
Speaker 3: by the way, is guest bartending on this season?
24:52
Speaker 2: I just saw that she last night. Yeah she is. Yeah.
24:58
Speaker 2: I was like, what happened to wo Wells too? He's
25:01
Speaker 2: the main PARTI chage Bubbly.
25:05
Speaker 3: I guess yeah, oh wow.
25:08
Speaker 2: I know.
25:08
Speaker 3: I was like, what crazy?
25:10
Speaker 2: But I so my question for you is that you
25:13
Speaker 2: are so vulnerable you share things that because I was
25:18
Speaker 2: listening to your podcast about the dog name stuff and
25:23
Speaker 2: it's like you you preface it, which I know I'm
25:25
Speaker 2: gonna get a lot of hate for this, Yeah, but
25:27
Speaker 2: you still do it knowing you're gonna get hate. But
25:30
Speaker 2: you also struggle with anxiety and like the stress of it.
25:33
Speaker 2: So how do you? I guess my thing is like
25:35
Speaker 2: I would just have to get off social media.
25:37
Speaker 3: I think yeah, I did a little bit actually after
25:40
Speaker 3: that because I knew, yeah, You're like, I'm gonna drop
25:43
Speaker 3: this and then I'm yeah, exactly in Tutulu for a week. Yeah,
25:49
Speaker 3: I knew, I just knew. I mean, it's it's all
25:52
Speaker 3: the I feel like it's a lot of like mothers
25:55
Speaker 3: who think he's the perfect son, and they like think
25:58
Speaker 3: I'm this degenerate like yeah, being crazy and but people
26:03
Speaker 3: are looking for something to like be mad at me
26:06
Speaker 3: for all the time. So it's like an easy If
26:08
Speaker 3: I do something and I know I'm gonna get hate
26:10
Speaker 3: for it, it's like they're like, oh, yes, we get
26:12
Speaker 3: to hater for it. So I mean the love that
26:15
Speaker 3: I get and the DMS is so nice and like
26:19
Speaker 3: because for some reason, the hate the haters and the
26:22
Speaker 3: crazy trolls are so loud, and then the people who
26:26
Speaker 3: are normal and loving aren't going to comment on these things.
26:29
Speaker 3: They're gonna maybe just send me a DM and be
26:31
Speaker 3: like hey, that's pretty fed up and like here for
26:33
Speaker 3: you and like we love you.
26:34
Speaker 2: B Yeah.
26:35
Speaker 3: It's always so I'm like I want to avoid the dms,
26:38
Speaker 3: but at the same time, it's nice to feel validated
26:41
Speaker 3: by some people Warner, which is sick, but yeah, I
26:46
Speaker 3: just not silly. It's like they it's weird because it is.
26:50
Speaker 1: It's like there there are these people that you don't know,
26:52
Speaker 1: so it's like you should we shouldn't care what they
26:54
Speaker 1: think about us, whether it's good or bad.
26:57
Speaker 3: But the the I don't want to say the prey,
27:00
Speaker 3: but like the thumbs up and like the encouragement is nice.
27:03
Speaker 2: Well, it's like, if you're gonna care about the bad ones,
27:05
Speaker 2: then why not care about the good ones? Yeah, Like,
27:08
Speaker 2: if anything, I wish I could focus more on the
27:10
Speaker 2: good ones unless, like I.
27:12
Speaker 3: Try, I've got I've actually gotten better at that. Yeah,
27:14
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm like, instead of I used to
27:17
Speaker 3: always call it shopping for pain, instead of like going
27:19
Speaker 3: looking for these mean comments and like harping on them,
27:21
Speaker 3: I actually now go looking for like love and support
27:24
Speaker 3: and try and have conversation with those people instead. Yeah,
27:28
Speaker 3: And it's so much more fulfilling.
27:30
Speaker 2: If if I open my DMS and I see like
27:32
Speaker 2: one negative thing, I'm like, okay, I'm off. I'm just
27:35
Speaker 2: really logging off for the day, or not looking at
27:37
Speaker 2: my DMS.
27:38
Speaker 3: You know, somebody DM me last night and they were like, uh,
27:42
Speaker 3: you have such a lazy eye. Maybe I do too,
27:45
Speaker 3: Could you help me with that? And I'm like, bro,
27:49
Speaker 3: I just like google the picture of a lazy eye
27:51
Speaker 3: and I sent it back and I went, that's a
27:53
Speaker 3: lazy eye. I have one eye that's smaller than the other.
27:55
Speaker 3: Would you like to talk about that instead? Like people
27:59
Speaker 3: are just so I find it so funny, though, what.
28:01
Speaker 2: Are they just looking for connections? So they're like, let
28:03
Speaker 2: me be mean.
28:04
Speaker 3: So I think they've heard me talk about it before
28:06
Speaker 3: where I used to like not hand out my school
28:07
Speaker 3: picture in the fifth grade because I thought my eyes
28:10
Speaker 3: were so like wonky and so can we You used
28:14
Speaker 3: to hand out your photos? No, I used to not
28:16
Speaker 3: have Oh yeah, what you never wrote on the back
28:19
Speaker 3: like stay cool? No, why did you do?
28:21
Speaker 2: What had your book? Yeah? You didn't like my family.
28:25
Speaker 2: I guess my family got the thing for me.
28:27
Speaker 3: I'd never had it, like.
28:29
Speaker 2: You kept them in your wallet or something.
28:31
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I would have so my all my friends
28:33
Speaker 3: would like give me their school photos and I'd give
28:35
Speaker 3: them mine and we'd sign the back saying like stay
28:37
Speaker 3: cool but spell it like kati w Yeah. Yeah, I'd
28:40
Speaker 3: had them on book on the wall in my room
28:42
Speaker 3: and I had all my friends Oh yeah, yes your
28:44
Speaker 3: book to Oh maybe that's like the bulletin board. So
28:46
Speaker 3: funny heard that I had a bulletin board.
28:49
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had one too, It just had I don't
28:51
Speaker 2: even like picture of Leonardo DiCaprio from Titanic on it. Yeah, primetime, literal, primetime. Yeah.
29:00
Speaker 2: I just I find it. I find it strange that
29:02
Speaker 2: you and it's it's it seems to be centered around
29:06
Speaker 2: this is what bugs me. It seems to be centered
29:07
Speaker 2: around men and your relationship and breakups. But then if
29:11
Speaker 2: I talk about it, I'm whatever, if I'm taking attention.
29:14
Speaker 2: I was also I was gonna say, it's so crazy
29:17
Speaker 2: because you go on podcasts and of course people are
29:19
Speaker 2: going to ask you about it. So the options or
29:20
Speaker 2: you either go, I don't want to talk about it,
29:22
Speaker 2: which is not fun for a podcast hosts, or you
29:25
Speaker 2: go you talk about it in in the most gracious
29:28
Speaker 2: way that you can while being honest, and then people
29:30
Speaker 2: are like, why is she still talking about this? I
29:32
Speaker 2: know it's like you can't win.
29:34
Speaker 3: Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
29:35
Speaker 2: Totally world that.
29:36
Speaker 3: I live in that I've just accept I've accepted that.
29:39
Speaker 3: I'm like, like, even somebody asking me at the event
29:42
Speaker 3: last night, like they're like, I'm with people. Magazine can
29:44
Speaker 3: ask you a few questions. I was like, we're going
29:48
Speaker 3: because I knew what it was gonna be. Yeah, it
29:50
Speaker 3: was just you know, the breakups are hard, and your
29:53
Speaker 3: last podcast you talked about this this, and I was like,
29:56
Speaker 3: but I also said in the podcast that I never
29:57
Speaker 3: wanted to talk about again. Yes, done, I'm it's in
30:01
Speaker 3: the past and the only X I want is extra money.
30:05
Speaker 2: Members.
30:06
Speaker 3: Do you know that TikTok trend? Like that? It's like
30:11
Speaker 3: if you'd done with your ex, move on to the next,
30:13
Speaker 3: and it's like, oh my god, now you'll hear it
30:15
Speaker 3: all the time. I'm I can't stop listening to it,
30:18
Speaker 3: and now that's just my theme.
30:20
Speaker 2: I had never seen her say that on the podcast,
30:23
Speaker 2: and I thought, hmmm, how do we bring this up?
30:25
Speaker 2: Because when we talked about it on the podcast about
30:28
Speaker 2: the name thing.
30:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sorry that story. I think I sent that
30:34
Speaker 1: to like every person in my contacts.
30:39
Speaker 3: I was so validated by all the right people, but
30:41
Speaker 3: it was again just the people that hate me that
30:43
Speaker 3: are gonna be like, it's a dog name. I'm like, yes,
30:46
Speaker 3: And we had talked about it so many times, Yeah,
30:50
Speaker 3: like it was my it's it's messed up. But I
30:53
Speaker 3: also like, yes, you're right too, both can be true.
30:58
Speaker 3: That is a common dog name, right, and it was
31:02
Speaker 3: the number one. We went on getting Ash's podcast saying
31:05
Speaker 3: that that was like, you know, it's just it's just
31:07
Speaker 3: messed up. Yeah, no, it really is.
31:10
Speaker 1: Like I remember when I saw that story, I literally
31:12
Speaker 1: sent it to like every single person that I know
31:14
Speaker 1: on the planet, like this is the craziest thing.
31:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, did it feel like it was like a job
31:20
Speaker 2: to hurt you?
31:20
Speaker 3: Or like, because I'm so confused, because my thing is like, did.
31:24
Speaker 2: He if it's something?
31:25
Speaker 3: But if it's somebody mean?
31:27
Speaker 2: But I'm saying if it's something, but I'm saying, if
31:30
Speaker 2: it's something that y'all talked about, did he think that
31:32
Speaker 2: you want it bring like I guess that you wouldn't
31:36
Speaker 2: bring it up at some point?
31:37
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think maybe I think it's hard because I
31:43
Speaker 3: think I think he knew I would bring it up,
31:46
Speaker 3: and I think that would get more traction to his page,
31:49
Speaker 3: and that's essentially what he's been going for lately. So
31:52
Speaker 3: I'm thinking maybe that was the reason. There's no way
31:55
Speaker 3: he forgot, Like, there's no way. No, it was like
31:58
Speaker 3: a very it was like five year conversation. Yeah, So yeah,
32:02
Speaker 3: I'm not sure I would.
32:03
Speaker 1: But you know what, I also think too. I think that,
32:06
Speaker 1: and this is no slight against anybody. I do think
32:10
Speaker 1: sometimes in breakups, like you can be petty. People can
32:14
Speaker 1: be petty. Sometimes breakups bring out.
32:16
Speaker 2: The worst, the worst version of yourself. Yea.
32:20
Speaker 1: So maybe that was done in like a moment of
32:23
Speaker 1: just like pure like anger, pettiness or whatever.
32:26
Speaker 3: But it's just it was wild.
32:28
Speaker 2: That was like wild for me.
32:30
Speaker 3: Yeah it was really.
32:32
Speaker 1: But now I supposed to show you cannot share your
32:34
Speaker 1: baby names you like a lot, especially not with your fan.
32:42
Speaker 3: I literally was coming out of a weekend therapy retreat
32:45
Speaker 3: in Nashville, this place called on Site. Oh my god,
32:47
Speaker 3: I got to do equine therapy with horses, and I
32:49
Speaker 3: literally like saw that as I came out and got
32:51
Speaker 3: my phone back, and I was like, wow, the timing
32:57
Speaker 3: is so crazy to practice everything you had just learned.
33:01
Speaker 3: I was literally like, but part of me was like
33:04
Speaker 3: it made me feel sorry for him because I'm like,
33:06
Speaker 3: there is a reason for that. A lot of things
33:09
Speaker 3: he does, in my opinion, is calculated. I'm like, this
33:11
Speaker 3: is sad. That's sad.
33:13
Speaker 2: So you know, they say sorry, go ahead. The opposite
33:16
Speaker 2: of love is indifference. Yeah, you know it's not. It's
33:19
Speaker 2: not hate because there's passion like that. It's it's all
33:24
Speaker 2: rooted in love and hurt and pain. And as soon
33:27
Speaker 2: as you just don't care, that's how you know when
33:29
Speaker 2: you've moved on. You know what I'm saying.
33:31
Speaker 3: I'm yeah, I definitely am through the hate phase.
33:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, you just seem shot by the by the well
33:38
Speaker 2: yeah yeah yeah.
33:45
Speaker 1: Moving forward, do you feel like you want to not
33:49
Speaker 1: date someone in the public eye or do you still
33:51
Speaker 1: like not care It doesn't matter.
33:53
Speaker 3: No, it doesn't bother me. Okay, it's I mean if
33:56
Speaker 3: that's like their number one priority and they're like, here's
33:58
Speaker 3: what I don't want. Like, is a a man that
34:00
Speaker 3: like sneezes into a transition into like a different outfit
34:04
Speaker 3: and like has a like I'm like picked out by
34:08
Speaker 3: I'm picked out by like a lot. Yeah, yeah, it happens,
34:12
Speaker 3: but by like certain people on social media. And I'm
34:16
Speaker 3: sure I ick people out so hard on social media too,
34:19
Speaker 3: but like that's just a preference for me. I find
34:20
Speaker 3: it a turn off when guys like do transitions not
34:25
Speaker 3: just specific, but I get it, I get I get
34:30
Speaker 3: the picture you're painting like I can like see it. Yeah. Yeah,
34:34
Speaker 3: but there's like Andrew from Bachelor World, Spencer and Greg.
34:39
Speaker 2: Do it so well. Oh they're so funny.
34:40
Speaker 3: Make me laugh so hard. That's funny to me. It's
34:44
Speaker 3: just the like, I don't know. I think, as long
34:46
Speaker 3: as you're like an authentic person, I don't care if
34:50
Speaker 3: you're in the Publicuy, I don't care what you're doing. Like,
34:52
Speaker 3: here's the thing, some people like that, you know what
34:54
Speaker 3: I mean.
34:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I'm like if Robbie posted a photo at
34:58
Speaker 1: the gym, like even like I would like I would,
35:02
Speaker 1: I would.
35:03
Speaker 3: I don't know what I would do.
35:04
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't think you from him at all.
35:07
Speaker 2: You know, I never pretty locked in.
35:08
Speaker 1: I'm very locked I think in the beginning, like in
35:12
Speaker 1: the beginning of when we were dating, if he had
35:13
Speaker 1: any sort of social media presence, I feel like it
35:16
Speaker 1: would like have thrown me off a little bit.
35:18
Speaker 3: It's funny because I'm so contradicting though too, because then
35:20
Speaker 3: I'm like posting a bikini photo like I'm like, but
35:24
Speaker 3: that I do it too, Yeah, Like I'd be picked
35:26
Speaker 3: out of myself.
35:27
Speaker 2: Right, here's the thing. It's not fair. It's not fair,
35:31
Speaker 2: but some things are for the girls. Yeah something, and
35:33
Speaker 2: that's just what it is.
35:34
Speaker 3: And I know people have opinion.
35:36
Speaker 2: About that, but it's just the facts. Like Becca Moore,
35:39
Speaker 2: you know, all her stuff for the girls, where she's
35:41
Speaker 2: like blankets are for the girls, Like why do you
35:43
Speaker 2: need a blanket? Like that's the same thing with the
35:46
Speaker 2: true social media transition. It's true.
35:48
Speaker 3: It's true. It's so true with that. I also am
35:51
Speaker 3: like one of those people that I'm like, I get it,
35:53
Speaker 3: that's not fair, but it's true.
35:54
Speaker 2: It's not fair.
35:55
Speaker 1: So what Okay, Well, this is really exciting because you
35:57
Speaker 1: are turning forty, so you have like a whole new decade.
35:59
Speaker 1: What is next decade? Or you look like like are
36:02
Speaker 1: you living in Nashville? Are you doing what you're doing?
36:04
Speaker 1: Like what are your ambitions?
36:06
Speaker 3: Your goals?
36:07
Speaker 2: I can't wait to hear about that after this break.
36:30
Speaker 2: All right, we're back. So Tanya said, you're going into
36:33
Speaker 2: a new decade. Yes, I have a question before you
36:35
Speaker 2: start talking about that, because I want to talk about
36:36
Speaker 2: Spade and Spars because you started your company. How long
36:41
Speaker 2: ago was that?
36:43
Speaker 3: That was in twenty like seventeen?
36:47
Speaker 2: So crazy are you at a point now? And I
36:49
Speaker 2: don't know if you want to share this, but like,
36:51
Speaker 2: are you making because I know, starting a company like that,
36:53
Speaker 2: and like you just put as much effort money and
36:56
Speaker 2: then you don't see anything for like a minute. Are
36:58
Speaker 2: you at the point where you're making im?
37:01
Speaker 3: And then now I'm like the alcohol business is so
37:05
Speaker 3: hard and it's so like I wish I there's obviously
37:10
Speaker 3: the benefit of hindsight, like I wish I did certain
37:13
Speaker 3: things differently, but like Target, for example, I was starting
37:18
Speaker 3: to get into all these targets and it was really
37:20
Speaker 3: starting to go. The problem is with wine. Wine sales
37:24
Speaker 3: are down like I don't know, I want to say,
37:26
Speaker 3: like fifty two percent or something like it's insane alcohol
37:29
Speaker 3: in general, but wine and beer specifically, because everyone is
37:33
Speaker 3: being told on the internet like this is going to
37:36
Speaker 3: kill you, like sugar, yeah, although like refine you anyways.
37:40
Speaker 3: And so I feel like alcohol sales are down and
37:43
Speaker 3: Snoop Dogg right now is selling his wine for like
37:45
Speaker 3: two dollars everywhere because everywhere is just sitting on so
37:48
Speaker 3: much inventory for wine, and so I'm feeling so defeated
37:52
Speaker 3: in that way because I'm like, yeah, I'm like you
37:55
Speaker 3: know what things go through their ups and downs, and
37:58
Speaker 3: I'm I'm no matter what happens, I'm like so proud
38:01
Speaker 3: of Spade and Sparrows and that whole brand because so
38:04
Speaker 3: many people work with other alcohol companies and they can
38:06
Speaker 3: have the best distributors from working with this and they
38:09
Speaker 3: get to like throw these big events. But everything I've
38:11
Speaker 3: done is like from my own money had to Like
38:14
Speaker 3: I was a cold calling people to get to people
38:17
Speaker 3: in touch with people at Target, Like yeah, I and
38:20
Speaker 3: I don't have good I can say this because I'm
38:22
Speaker 3: not with them anymore partners Like I did not have
38:24
Speaker 3: not my business partners. I mean the like production facilities
38:28
Speaker 3: and stuff. They just like stopped caring because sales were down. Yeah,
38:31
Speaker 3: And so now I'm trying to just like pivot and
38:33
Speaker 3: find ways because I mean, it's so good. The wine
38:36
Speaker 3: is so good. It is low sugar and people still
38:39
Speaker 3: but I still have my wine club, Like it's not
38:41
Speaker 3: we're not drowning over here. It's fine. It's just yeah,
38:44
Speaker 3: wine sales are tough right now.
38:46
Speaker 2: It's true though, It's like the stock so you go,
38:48
Speaker 2: there's ups and downs, and it's like right now it's
38:50
Speaker 2: a try, like I'll not.
38:51
Speaker 3: Leave what they're told. Yeah, people are being told, hey,
38:54
Speaker 3: alcohol is going to kill you. It's then it goes viral,
38:57
Speaker 3: so they never wants to go viral. So everyone's talking
38:59
Speaker 3: about how bad talks and alcohol and it's going to
39:01
Speaker 3: kill you because it's going viral right now, and people
39:03
Speaker 3: just believe what they're told. I know.
39:05
Speaker 1: I'm actually trying to get better about that because like
39:07
Speaker 1: I'm like one of those people. I'll see something on
39:09
Speaker 1: Instagram and like I'll just like, I'll believe it.
39:11
Speaker 3: Vegetables anymore. Yeah, it's like they're gonna kill.
39:13
Speaker 2: Me, dumb, like I can so are gonna kill us?
39:16
Speaker 3: Apparently they're not organic. Yeah, my kidding, I'm kidding. Oh
39:20
Speaker 3: it's crazy, Okay, forty decades. Yeah, yeah, I've always been
39:26
Speaker 3: like this manifesto, I make vision boards, I always have
39:28
Speaker 3: a plan. I'm always like this is what I want
39:30
Speaker 3: to accomplish. I don't have anything in forties. Like, I'm
39:33
Speaker 3: just like I want to just feel happy anytime I
39:36
Speaker 3: see eleven eleven. I used to be like I will
39:39
Speaker 3: win Dancing with the Stars, like I'm but I did
39:42
Speaker 3: and then I did, so you'd think I would have
39:44
Speaker 3: some more goals, but I'm like just thinking about I
39:48
Speaker 3: always think about how I want to feel. I'm like,
39:51
Speaker 3: I want to enjoy how hard I've worked and that
39:53
Speaker 3: I'm like where I'm at. I want to enjoy where
39:56
Speaker 3: I'm at and not push myself. Like I have this
40:00
Speaker 3: big thing coming up that I can't even talk about
40:01
Speaker 3: because it's a whole thing. I was at the Hulu
40:04
Speaker 3: event last night because we were supposed to announce something,
40:06
Speaker 3: but it's getting pushed and so I can't talk. I
40:10
Speaker 3: can't talk about it, and it's so tough because I'm like,
40:15
Speaker 3: because that could be a really big thing that happens.
40:17
Speaker 3: But really, I my podcast means everything to me. I've
40:21
Speaker 3: been doing it for eight years, and yesterday was the
40:25
Speaker 3: first time in eight years I didn't release an episode
40:28
Speaker 3: because I'm rewatching and I'm just having to go through
40:31
Speaker 3: some hoops with ABC and Disney and Warner Brothers to
40:34
Speaker 3: get the footage. And I'm like, oh God, everyone's gonna
40:39
Speaker 3: turn on me. My O TV family is everything to me.
40:41
Speaker 3: They're going to be like, well, I'm done, because you
40:43
Speaker 3: have to be so consistent with podcasts. Yeah, and like
40:47
Speaker 3: for my forties, like, I'm just I just want to
40:49
Speaker 3: like elevate the conversations. I want to have these guests
40:51
Speaker 3: on that are going to make me like, like fill
40:53
Speaker 3: everybody's cup. I'm I like to I like to have
40:56
Speaker 3: deep conversations, and like I like to have the reality
40:58
Speaker 3: TV people on once in a while, and you know,
41:01
Speaker 3: I love having musicians on. But I'm like, I just
41:03
Speaker 3: want I just want to keep going with that so
41:05
Speaker 3: much because I love it. I've never been so passionate
41:08
Speaker 3: about something in my life as my podcast. So I
41:11
Speaker 3: feel like that maybe a few more dogs. I would
41:14
Speaker 3: love to have a baby one day. Healthy marriage. I
41:17
Speaker 3: feel like forties, maybe maybe the time for that next
41:20
Speaker 3: phase in life.
41:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, does does? Because you were saying how you've gotten
41:25
Speaker 2: so hyper independent? Yeah, what does it look like for
41:29
Speaker 2: you to because obviously going from hyper the hyper independent
41:33
Speaker 2: mentality to marriage is like there's a bunch of space
41:36
Speaker 2: in between there.
41:37
Speaker 3: Yeah is that men?
41:40
Speaker 2: I told you that earlier. Yeah, I just to date
41:42
Speaker 2: a girl for a second.
41:43
Speaker 3: I wanted to so badly, I really did. I thought
41:46
Speaker 3: it was my time, and I mean maybe I still could.
41:53
Speaker 3: I think I just like want somebody who also who
41:56
Speaker 3: like loves the independence that I have and like I
42:00
Speaker 3: I know that like codependency and relationship can also be cute,
42:03
Speaker 3: like to a certain degree, and I want like, I'm
42:08
Speaker 3: sorry that is so it's the Kanye West.
42:10
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, then get really.
42:15
Speaker 3: Where am I Codependency could be cute? Oh yeah, it's cute,
42:19
Speaker 3: Like I want. I just want somebody who is also
42:22
Speaker 3: independent and like we just do our own thing and
42:25
Speaker 3: then we come back together and we just I don't know,
42:27
Speaker 3: I just have this vision, and maybe I should not
42:29
Speaker 3: be so specific on my vision, but I do think,
42:33
Speaker 3: you know, I'm just I'm happy in this dating world
42:36
Speaker 3: that I'm in right now, and I'm happy doing it privately,
42:38
Speaker 3: and I have like a lot of hope.
42:40
Speaker 2: I do.
42:42
Speaker 3: Best thing, a little bit of hope. I'm gonna leave
42:45
Speaker 3: you with something. Okay. Oh god, she's crossing her hands.
42:50
Speaker 3: Thank you? Why I was doing it? Have you read
42:56
Speaker 3: this book called Calling in the One?
42:59
Speaker 2: Okay?
43:00
Speaker 1: It's first of all, it's more than just about It's
43:04
Speaker 1: more than like a dating book. To me, it felt
43:05
Speaker 1: like therapy in a book. Like it's like, do you
43:08
Speaker 1: like homework and stuff? Yeah, I think you're gonna love it.
43:10
Speaker 3: Okay, it's seven weeks. Every day there's like I'll get
43:13
Speaker 3: it for you.
43:13
Speaker 2: I'm happy.
43:13
Speaker 1: I would love nothing more than to send it to you, okay,
43:16
Speaker 1: And I like it was like I had major breakthrough
43:19
Speaker 1: moments doing this book.
43:22
Speaker 2: Do you still do it if?
43:23
Speaker 3: Like what if hypothetically speaking, you already called in? What
43:26
Speaker 3: if I've already called one in and I just wouildll
43:28
Speaker 3: it reaffirm or like validated. It's not even that because
43:31
Speaker 3: I did it.
43:32
Speaker 1: I met my now husband before I finished it, and
43:34
Speaker 1: I finished it while we were in our early stages
43:37
Speaker 1: of dating. But it was just like it helped me
43:41
Speaker 1: like get rid of so much stuff that I've just
43:43
Speaker 1: toxic stuff that I was just doing in general patterns.
43:47
Speaker 1: It made me see patterns and stuff in my life.
43:48
Speaker 1: But I just yeah, anyways, it really was like game changing.
43:52
Speaker 2: It's stuff like cleaning out space in your closet for
43:54
Speaker 2: a person, cleaning getting rid of like old packs.
43:58
Speaker 1: That you maybe had with liketners from your past or whatever.
44:01
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, oh yeah I could. Yeah, I have a
44:04
Speaker 3: you know what, my like DNA makeup, and I found
44:07
Speaker 3: out I'm a generator and all the stuff come all
44:09
Speaker 3: into that. There. She said, my life purpose is to
44:12
Speaker 3: learn how to let go. And I was like, because
44:17
Speaker 3: I was like, wow, that is that feels true. Yah,
44:19
Speaker 3: it's very true. Yeah, I will take that book also,
44:22
Speaker 3: just I don't know why I talk about X when
44:24
Speaker 3: I'm with you Becca, But it's faked out.
44:26
Speaker 2: My danglely feet right now, like that they don't touch the.
44:29
Speaker 3: I hate that too, and I got upset.
44:32
Speaker 2: I'm like immediately uncross them.
44:34
Speaker 1: But we have I have trash can underneath mind that
44:37
Speaker 1: I usually have my feet up on because I like,
44:38
Speaker 1: I can't.
44:39
Speaker 3: I can't seat at the bar at my hotel and
44:41
Speaker 3: his feet were dangling and I was like, ew, yeah,
44:45
Speaker 3: it's gross. I can't.
44:46
Speaker 2: It's weird what like triggers that for for some people,
44:50
Speaker 2: and some people that don't have that don't understand and
44:52
Speaker 2: they're like that's so mean. I'm like, it's not mean.
44:54
Speaker 2: It's just like it's what happens to my brain when.
44:57
Speaker 3: You do like a lot of like press or like
44:59
Speaker 3: TV press and they have like on those stools. None
45:01
Speaker 3: of those stools have.
45:03
Speaker 1: A place for you to like put your ankles or
45:05
Speaker 1: like hey put your feet on. So yeah, you have
45:07
Speaker 1: like dangly feet and on.
45:08
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, the dangly feet. I don't know. Yeah, even
45:12
Speaker 3: iack myself out a lot actually, like I I do
45:15
Speaker 3: you know the app Marco Polo. So it's this app
45:18
Speaker 3: where you can like talk to your friends. It's like
45:20
Speaker 3: a video chat and you can watch it live. Like
45:23
Speaker 3: if I hit record right now on the Marco Polo,
45:25
Speaker 3: my girl can be like, Okay, let's talking to me
45:26
Speaker 3: and then watch it live, or you can watch it
45:28
Speaker 3: later and like respond back. And I talked to two
45:31
Speaker 3: of my best friends on it every single day. And
45:33
Speaker 3: last night I'd had a few glasses of wine and
45:36
Speaker 3: I decided to send her a Marco Polo about the
45:39
Speaker 3: Hulu event last night and all the things that went
45:41
Speaker 3: down and people that were there. And I was eating
45:45
Speaker 3: chicken tendis and fries and while talking and she was like, oh,
45:50
Speaker 3: your polo last night it was gold, like you told
45:52
Speaker 3: me so much inside info. And I went back to
45:54
Speaker 3: watch it and I was like, ah, I couldn't even watch.
45:56
Speaker 2: I was so grossed out by myself chewing it, don't
46:00
Speaker 2: you yes?
46:01
Speaker 3: And I couldn't. I honestly hate the sound of myself
46:04
Speaker 3: drinking water. I hate the sound of myself chewing like
46:07
Speaker 3: I annoy myself. It's not so I'm like I feel
46:10
Speaker 3: better about it that I'm not just the figure. So
46:13
Speaker 3: like you, I know I have to get this app.
46:16
Speaker 2: By the way, I knew I could see your wheel.
46:18
Speaker 2: I was like, put to Caitlin, please stop telling her
46:20
Speaker 2: what this is.
46:22
Speaker 3: It's the best I want my best friend since I
46:24
Speaker 3: was like, you see you when they've watched it. Yeah,
46:26
Speaker 3: oh my gosh. You can see when they watched it.
46:29
Speaker 3: You can see if they're there live watching, you can
46:31
Speaker 3: like live react to it. I should get paid by
46:34
Speaker 3: Marco Polo because I talk about this app all the time.
46:36
Speaker 3: It's I feel about that book.
46:38
Speaker 1: I'm like, I have probably sold so many of these
46:40
Speaker 1: and myself I bought Amazon.
46:43
Speaker 2: No.
46:45
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm just happy to give them, happy to
46:48
Speaker 3: give the yes, paying it forward, Yeah, paying for exactly totally.
46:52
Speaker 2: Okay, I have a question that I want both of
46:54
Speaker 2: you to answer. It's a critical thinking question. So I'm
46:57
Speaker 2: going to give you four things and you can choose
47:01
Speaker 2: one of them that you're the best at, and then
47:03
Speaker 2: the other three you're the worst at.
47:05
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, So.
47:06
Speaker 2: The things are beauty, brains, talent, and charisma.
47:12
Speaker 3: Oh, charisma for me, brains interesting joking kiss Like not
47:19
Speaker 3: what I expected. I was going between brains and charisma.
47:23
Speaker 2: What is that the fourth one? Talent, beauty, brains, and charisma.
47:29
Speaker 2: I said, what a great question. So I started following
47:33
Speaker 2: this girl who she was talking about how she loves
47:35
Speaker 2: critical thinking questions because she gets so like she hates
47:39
Speaker 2: small talk and she loves like when people can talk.
47:42
Speaker 2: That she just met and they asked her something that's
47:44
Speaker 2: like profound. So I just started going to her videos
47:46
Speaker 2: and I was like, that's such a good question to
47:48
Speaker 2: ask one because I thought about it for a long
47:50
Speaker 2: time because I was like, brains, Like, you're smart, so
47:53
Speaker 2: you can outsmart things. But I think charisma every time.
47:58
Speaker 3: I think talent. If you ask me, I'm joking. I
48:01
Speaker 3: actually don't think I have any of those. You charisma,
48:04
Speaker 3: yes you do. I don't think I have charisma. I
48:06
Speaker 3: definitely have charisma.
48:07
Speaker 2: You have all of those, but the whole thing is
48:09
Speaker 2: like hype. You can only choose one and then you're
48:11
Speaker 2: the worst at the others.
48:13
Speaker 3: I'm definitely going with charisma. I'm I'm pretty talented, though, what.
48:21
Speaker 2: Do you ever have? Have you ever? I know that
48:23
Speaker 2: we talked a lot about you, like you've talked a
48:25
Speaker 2: lot about wanting to host like Dancing with the Stars,
48:27
Speaker 2: and is there ever, I know that's probably still on
48:30
Speaker 2: the list. I was.
48:31
Speaker 3: I was with Alfonso last night and I was like, oh,
48:34
Speaker 3: you have my dream job. We literally spent one hour
48:37
Speaker 3: on my golf swing at this Hulu event, just like
48:39
Speaker 3: him and I just practicing like the golf swing. I
48:41
Speaker 3: was like, what are we doing? Okay, but he has
48:44
Speaker 3: my dream job. But they are so good that that
48:47
Speaker 3: that is kind of like a pipe dream maybe down
48:51
Speaker 3: the road. I don't see it happening anytime soon because
48:54
Speaker 3: they are so good. Julianna and Alfonso are so good.
48:58
Speaker 3: But like I do love hosting. My dream job is
49:01
Speaker 3: to host a TV show for sure.
49:03
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but you loved you loved Dancing with the Stars.
49:05
Speaker 3: I was like, well, I if I could just live
49:07
Speaker 3: there and just hang out with them all the time.
49:10
Speaker 3: I loved it so much. It was hands down the
49:13
Speaker 3: hardest thing I ever did, and then also hands down
49:15
Speaker 3: the most memorable thing I ever did. And like, I
49:18
Speaker 3: feel like everybody speaks so highly of that show.
49:20
Speaker 2: Oh it loves me.
49:21
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so hard, like the work you put in.
49:23
Speaker 2: Nobody.
49:24
Speaker 3: I was with Danny how do you say his last name? Amadella?
49:26
Speaker 3: Andla what Emmondola he's gonna be like, thanks a lot, Kaylen.
49:31
Speaker 3: We were with him in Miami for one night. We
49:33
Speaker 3: had a drink with him and he was talking about
49:36
Speaker 3: how hard it is. He's like, you do not know
49:37
Speaker 3: what you're signing up for, but once you get in it,
49:39
Speaker 3: if you're a competitive person, you're like, I'm going out
49:43
Speaker 3: there with like cracked ribs and like just still doing it.
49:45
Speaker 3: And I should have been out of the competition for
49:47
Speaker 3: because they're like the doctor told me at one point,
49:49
Speaker 3: They're like, I don't think you should continue dancing, like
49:51
Speaker 3: you're really doing damage to your body. And I was
49:53
Speaker 3: like I don't care.
49:54
Speaker 2: I don't care.
49:55
Speaker 3: I want to win. And you just you really it's
49:58
Speaker 3: like eight hours a day and you get one day
50:00
Speaker 3: off and it's a long show. You get so into
50:03
Speaker 3: it and the crew and the producers and the whole
50:07
Speaker 3: all the stars are just so amazing. I just love
50:09
Speaker 3: it so much. The last night and I was like,
50:12
Speaker 3: have you met me?
50:13
Speaker 2: Have you met Riley Arnold? Yes? Okay? Speaking of no
50:16
Speaker 2: poor like when she came. She came as a guest
50:19
Speaker 2: and we were staring at her and we were like,
50:21
Speaker 2: shouldn't have pores on her face?
50:23
Speaker 3: I will after. This is Emma's makeup from last night.
50:26
Speaker 2: Oh, I've always admire this is a skill that you have.
50:30
Speaker 2: It is, this is talent.
50:32
Speaker 3: I woke up like Lipline are still on, I don't know,
50:35
Speaker 3: I won't happen. I was like, and I went, that'll work.
50:39
Speaker 3: I literally was staring at your eye makeup like, yeah,
50:41
Speaker 3: she was amazing. She was like, Wow, she has a
50:44
Speaker 3: really good job and like doing it herself. No, this
50:46
Speaker 3: is all Emma. I just sleep like a vampire. It's great.
50:49
Speaker 2: That's amazing.
50:50
Speaker 3: I just put a little powder under my eyes and
50:52
Speaker 3: a little more lip gloss on cold. It probably looks kind.
50:54
Speaker 2: Of dirty, but you don't really have any pores either.
50:56
Speaker 3: Well they're covered up.
50:57
Speaker 2: But back to Riley.
50:59
Speaker 3: I saw her also on Your Guys podcast and I
51:01
Speaker 3: was like, she is the cutest, sweetest, most innocent little
51:06
Speaker 3: thing I ever met in my life.
51:07
Speaker 2: Yeah.
51:08
Speaker 3: Precious, Oh precious is the perfect word for her. She's
51:11
Speaker 3: Polly Pocket. Yeah.
51:12
Speaker 2: I have two questions and we're done. Who's been your
51:16
Speaker 2: most impactful guest that you've had on off the Mine?
51:19
Speaker 3: Oh? Mel Robins had really Oh my gosh, she changed
51:23
Speaker 3: my life. Oh yeah, she was amazing. Also, I had
51:26
Speaker 3: Jay Shaddy on, but it was during zoom times and
51:28
Speaker 3: I'm so mad I didn't get to just like breathe
51:30
Speaker 3: in his presence and like smell him. Yeah, but his
51:34
Speaker 3: conversation with me and mel Robbins, because I feel like
51:38
Speaker 3: I didn't even need to like say anything, Like she
51:40
Speaker 3: just sat there and like it's like I went to church,
51:42
Speaker 3: Like I just sat there being like yeah, wow, yes,
51:46
Speaker 3: and she calls you out on certain things.
51:49
Speaker 2: What was the video she called you out when you
51:50
Speaker 2: said something and she was like, no, I can't.
51:53
Speaker 3: She was like, I think you need to talk to
51:54
Speaker 3: your therapist about that. I was like, oh, but I
51:57
Speaker 3: like that, Like she's just so real and it was yeah,
52:01
Speaker 3: definitely Meil Robins.
52:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, who's your pipe dream guest to have on the.
52:04
Speaker 3: Pop Bradney Spears? Oh wowow do you imagine? I mean
52:08
Speaker 3: she could still for that long. But yeah, that's like
52:12
Speaker 3: my unrealistic one. Maybe a realistic one.
52:14
Speaker 2: I don't know.
52:16
Speaker 3: Oh gosh, Chelsea Handler was up there for me and
52:18
Speaker 3: I got to talk to her and that was amazing. Yeah,
52:21
Speaker 3: I don't I don't know. I talk about this all
52:23
Speaker 3: the time, and now I forget all the people I
52:26
Speaker 3: buckle under pressure.
52:28
Speaker 2: There's zero pressure here.
52:29
Speaker 3: Yeah, literally pressure, the opposite of pressure. Yeah, maybe like
52:34
Speaker 3: one of the Kardashians because I just want.
52:36
Speaker 2: To like know, yeah, how they do?
52:39
Speaker 3: You know they do? I'd love to have one of
52:41
Speaker 3: them on too.
52:41
Speaker 2: I would love to have one of them if we
52:42
Speaker 2: could be if it could be just like real and
52:44
Speaker 2: raw and not.
52:45
Speaker 3: Like yeah, like if they can come in in sweats
52:47
Speaker 3: with no makeup and just talk about like the real
52:49
Speaker 3: like like if they have diarrhea or like like yeah yeah,
52:54
Speaker 3: like yeah, the stuff that you would never know because
52:56
Speaker 3: they're always so put together. I bet they have diarrhea,
52:59
Speaker 3: do you think?
52:59
Speaker 2: I don't sure.
53:02
Speaker 3: Chloe does, yeah, and Courtney and Courtney.
53:05
Speaker 2: Yeah let me poo. I don't know about him.
53:08
Speaker 3: Yeah, Kim's a robot. I would like to know how
53:13
Speaker 3: to be a billionaire. That's what I would ask her.
53:15
Speaker 3: How do you get to be a billionaire? I don't
53:17
Speaker 3: know if I want to be a billionaire. I don't
53:19
Speaker 3: think I want to be a billionaire, Like why do you?
53:21
Speaker 2: And then you have and then everything you have to
53:23
Speaker 2: question every relationship. Are they just my friend? Because I
53:27
Speaker 2: have billions of dollars and.
53:29
Speaker 3: You don't need it. You don't need to do with
53:31
Speaker 3: a billion dollars.
53:33
Speaker 2: I would just get you have to give it away
53:35
Speaker 2: for it to be even like ethical. Yeah, you know,
53:38
Speaker 2: but they don't be doing that, Caitlin. We love you,
53:44
Speaker 2: thank you for coming in the studio a TikTok or something,
53:47
Speaker 2: so yeah, can you do that? You can teach us,
53:53
Speaker 2: but it's hard.
53:54
Speaker 3: It Actually I finally got it yesterday and I was sweating,
53:58
Speaker 3: like I was sweating learning to do that.
54:00
Speaker 2: What if you're doing we're just staying hype you up and.
54:02
Speaker 3: The Yeah that works. I'm horrible with TikTok or we
54:05
Speaker 3: can find one that we're all.
54:05
Speaker 2: Good Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think there's something we can do.
54:08
Speaker 3: Yeah.
54:09
Speaker 2: We love you so much. We're so happy for you.
54:11
Speaker 2: I'm so happy for the place that you're in and
54:13
Speaker 2: love the person that you are and can't wait, can't
54:17
Speaker 2: wait to see what forty the forties bringing. Yeah, because
54:20
Speaker 2: I feel up until then you has brought you a lot,
54:23
Speaker 2: Like I feel like the thirties brought you a.
54:25
Speaker 3: Little really good to a lot of ups and a
54:27
Speaker 3: lot of downs.
54:28
Speaker 2: That's like, yeah, yeah, you lived a lot of life
54:30
Speaker 2: in your thirties.
54:31
Speaker 3: I lived a lot of I think I've lived like
54:33
Speaker 3: a hundred different lives in my life. Every time I
54:35
Speaker 3: tell my girl, my girlfriend cat a story, she's like,
54:38
Speaker 3: of course, that happened to you, Like I just so weird.
54:40
Speaker 3: Things happened to me all the time. Yeah, but yeah,
54:42
Speaker 3: thanks for having I don't want to leave.
54:45
Speaker 2: Next man.
54:49
Speaker 3: Now I'm really done.
54:50
Speaker 2: Talking to it. We put a cap on the finale
54:55
Speaker 2: of all things in the past.
54:56
Speaker 3: Yeah bye.
54:57
Speaker 2: It's being left in the thirties forever.
55:00
Speaker 3: Yeah bye bye.