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IAAI Town Meeting: Luke is THE Good One (Season 4 E13 “Nag Hammadi is Where They Found the Gnostic Gospel”) · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I Am All in again. Oh that's you.
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  Speaker 2: I Am All in Town Meeting with Suzanne French and
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  Speaker 2: Tara suit An iHeartRadio podcast. Hi everyone, welcome to another
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  Speaker 2: edition of I Am All in Town Meeting.
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  Speaker 1: This is Suzanne. We do not have Tara.
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  Speaker 2: Here, so I have to do the introduction by myself
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  Speaker 2: and I'm kind of scared, but I'm okay.
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  Speaker 3: I'm here today with Jackie.
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  Speaker 1: Hi eyes.
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  Speaker 4: I'm filling in for Tar for the next few weeks
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  Speaker 4: because dun, dun dud she's on.
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  Speaker 1: Jerry Dewey said she up picked.
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  Speaker 3: Performing her civic duty.
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  Speaker 2: So exactly, I'm looking forward to hearing what kind of
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  Speaker 2: case she got because it's gonna go on for a
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  Speaker 2: little while.
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  Speaker 4: It sounds, yes, a couple of weeks, and I do know,
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  Speaker 4: but we shall discuss in a couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, cool.
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  Speaker 2: You know I had a friend, I'm actually a coworker
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  Speaker 2: that got on a jury recently as an alternate, and
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  Speaker 2: so she had to sit through all of the testimony
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  Speaker 2: and when they got to the deliberation part, because she
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  Speaker 2: was an alternate, they didn't need her and.
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  Speaker 3: So they let her go.
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  Speaker 2: So she never even got to hear what the verdict
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  Speaker 2: was like she never got closure.
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  Speaker 3: Oh oh my god, all the testimony.
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  Speaker 4: But anyways, personally, I would like to be on the
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  Speaker 4: jury of like a true crime criminal murder case because
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  Speaker 4: I love true crime, but like in a high profile
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  Speaker 4: one like Scott Peterson case. I'm totally biased because I'm
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  Speaker 4: from the area, but I would have loved been on
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  Speaker 4: that jury. And then like, you know, I don't know,
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  Speaker 4: I'm just weird like that. I'm into like those like
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  Speaker 4: what serial killers, Zodiac Sign.
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  Speaker 1: Golden State Killer.
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  Speaker 4: I went through a real hard true crime frase phase
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  Speaker 4: like I was this too, like a lot of podcasts
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  Speaker 4: on true crime.
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  Speaker 1: Then I was like, okay, I new stop because then
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  Speaker 1: I would have dreams.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know sometimes those big cases like you
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  Speaker 2: have to put they sequester you so you have to like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: that's trife on hold like that.
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, I wouldn't want to do that then, but.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was on I actually have not ever been
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  Speaker 2: on a regular jury, but I did actually serve on
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  Speaker 2: a grand jury once downtown La Los Angeles County. I
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  Speaker 2: had to go to the big courthouse right next to
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  Speaker 2: city Hall, and.
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  Speaker 3: It was actually pretty cool. It was.
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  Speaker 2: It was a well I can't say because they actually
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  Speaker 2: never filed charges, so I can't. I can't think what
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  Speaker 2: it was because it was never made public. But it
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  Speaker 2: was a civil matter. But it was super interesting, like
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  Speaker 2: we all had our own.
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  Speaker 3: Desks and like it. Wow, they treated us really well. Anyways,
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  Speaker 3: that's good.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're here to talk about Gilmore Girls today, so
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  Speaker 2: let's do that. So today we're going to talk about
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  Speaker 2: season four, episode thirteen. Nagamadi is where they found the
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  Speaker 2: Gnostic Gospel. Long title, great episode. This episode aired February
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  Speaker 2: tenth of two thousand and four.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, that is a long title. And before this I
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  Speaker 4: never knew what knag Hamadi was. And then I realized
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  Speaker 4: that it's like those those Well, I like.
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  Speaker 2: How like at the end, the boring guy giving the
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  Speaker 2: speech says, you know, without this fund or whatever, we'd
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  Speaker 2: still be wandering around nag Hamadi. And so then you're like, well,
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  Speaker 2: what is nog Hamadi? But then you look at the
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  Speaker 2: title of the episode and it answers that for you. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I still person understand it, but you know, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know anything about rare manuscripts.
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  Speaker 3: But yes, so there's a lot, there was a lot going.
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  Speaker 4: There's a lot of deep stuff going on too, Like
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  Speaker 4: in the episode that Scott recaps with Joe Brennan, Lincoln's
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  Speaker 4: Crazy Carry go back and listen to that he recaps
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  Speaker 4: this episode with him, it got deep, It got deep,
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  Speaker 4: And so I can see that because there is a
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  Speaker 4: lot of deep like trauma from all of the families
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  Speaker 4: in this episode, especially the Danes family, which I loved.
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  Speaker 1: So let's see that part.
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  Speaker 2: I like getting more of like Luke's backstory kind of
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  Speaker 2: and you know, seeing his relationship with a sister and
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  Speaker 2: you can kind of get a sense of how he
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  Speaker 2: wound up the way he is, like, you know, because
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  Speaker 2: he's ranted about family and things before, but now we
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  Speaker 2: kind of see, okay, this is where that's all coming from.
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  Speaker 2: So so yeah, lots of good stuff and just the
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  Speaker 2: magic of the Firelight Festival. Yeah, this is just one
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  Speaker 2: of my favorite episodes. And so sometimes, you know, sometimes
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  Speaker 2: you just want to you feel like you want to
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  Speaker 2: watch an episode of Gilmore Girls.
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  Speaker 3: This is one of the ones that I reached. I
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  Speaker 3: put on and watch it and it's very.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's nice. I have that with Friends with Friends.
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  Speaker 4: I put on the one with the prom video You're
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  Speaker 4: my lobster, like one that I go to, Yes, that's like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: I just want to be light and cheery, but also.
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  Speaker 1: Like a like oh moment, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: Ross and Rachel kiss in that one.
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  Speaker 4: But but here it's like you you get real true
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  Speaker 4: meaning of like why Luke's way is. And I remember
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  Speaker 4: when I hopped on to produce Jill and Scott. I
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  Speaker 4: told Scott I was like, Scott, you made me emotional
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  Speaker 4: in this episode. I was like your performance. And he's
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  Speaker 4: all thank you, like he was, you know, like gracious
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  Speaker 4: and all that. But I was like wow, like and
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  Speaker 4: I know, and sometimes when you know the actor is
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  Speaker 4: kind of hard to separate, like the character from the actor,
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  Speaker 4: you know. But I was like totally in tune with
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  Speaker 4: Luke Danes in this episode, especially when he's drunk with
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  Speaker 4: Why Yes.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, wow, that's a lot of blood on
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  Speaker 1: that shirt. But also it was it was good. He
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  Speaker 1: did a really good job.
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  Speaker 4: And I know he talks about like, you know, playing
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  Speaker 4: drunk it's really hard to do, but he did a
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  Speaker 4: really good job. I had a lot of depth. And
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  Speaker 4: Jess too, he's so he's so mean, but also you
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  Speaker 4: get why because you mean and you're like, oh, Okay, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: there's just.
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  Speaker 3: So much going on.
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  Speaker 2: So the opening scene, did you notice the clown pillow?
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  Speaker 1: Oh? I didn't see it. I was looking for it
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  Speaker 1: everywhere else, even in the drunk scene. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: where is a clown pillow?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah it was.
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  Speaker 3: You know, we haven't seen it for a while, so
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  Speaker 3: I thought, gosh, is it gone?
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  Speaker 2: But no, it made an appearance in this episode, the
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  Speaker 2: very opening when she's taping the like when she's doing
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  Speaker 2: the window thing and Barbie yeah, and it's like freezing
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  Speaker 2: cold and and all that. So, yeah, clown pillow in
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  Speaker 2: that scene.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So Jess comes back to town and he's waiting for
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  Speaker 2: his car to be fixed. So in the meantime, he's
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  Speaker 2: kind of rotating around different sites in town and Rubery
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  Speaker 2: keeps running into him. Yeah, I guess Now, it was
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  Speaker 2: always obvious to me that he I guess she interpreted
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  Speaker 2: that as he was mad at her and that's why
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  Speaker 2: he kept leaving.
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  Speaker 1: But literally, I mean it was clear to me that
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  Speaker 1: he I.
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  Speaker 2: Don't know if he was like embarrassed or he was
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  Speaker 2: just trying to avoid confrontation, because you know, he had
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  Speaker 2: kind of just disappeared before. That's what I got at yeah,
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  Speaker 2: like lots lots of different feels there, and.
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  Speaker 3: So you kind of are wondering, like where's where's this
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  Speaker 3: gonna go exactly?
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  Speaker 4: And what made me chuckle, like literally laugh out loud
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  Speaker 4: was the running at the end when she's like smoot down.
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  Speaker 1: And then the way that she's running.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if like the director purposely told Alexa
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  Speaker 4: Bladel to like run like like like your kid, like
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  Speaker 4: with and your legs flaily, because like when you usually run,
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  Speaker 4: you're usually like right like, and she was just like, nah,
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  Speaker 4: this is right, like act like a child and run
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  Speaker 4: like Phoebe does again my friend's reference like Phoebe does
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  Speaker 4: and friends when Rachel goes running with her. But it
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  Speaker 4: was really good. And I think the he's non confrontational,
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  Speaker 4: he's scared. He's still a seventeen year old kid that
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  Speaker 4: doesn't know how what to do with his feelings exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Know. Yeah, yeah, Like he's like this big tough guy.
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  Speaker 1: Bet he still has that insecurity exactly exactly, and he
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  Speaker 1: just he just doesn't know what to say to her
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  Speaker 1: until like he does.
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  Speaker 2: I loved when he says, where did you learn how
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  Speaker 2: to run?
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  Speaker 1: Like that?
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  Speaker 2: I know?
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  Speaker 3: It was so good. It was so good.
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  Speaker 2: And one thing I thought was funny is like she's
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  Speaker 2: she's running around the square and she's she's yelling like
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  Speaker 2: you know, she's running clearly running away from him, but
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  Speaker 2: like all the townspeople like no one's trying to help her,
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  Speaker 2: I know, And she's like running away from a guy,
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  Speaker 2: and she's like leave me alone, Like wouldn't you try
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  Speaker 2: to help I don't know that, yeah, because they knew
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  Speaker 2: Rory and they knew Jess, but they know Jess is
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  Speaker 2: like they all think Jess is a punk, so I
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  Speaker 2: think they'd try to help her.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, it was. It was a good scene.
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  Speaker 1: Good scene.
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  Speaker 3: That was another one. And we meet TJ in this episode.
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  Speaker 1: Gary, Yeah, I was like, what is this?
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  Speaker 3: People either love or hate TJ.
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  Speaker 1: I think he's funny, like me too.
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  Speaker 2: He's kind of like probably not somebody I would be
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  Speaker 2: friends with in real life, because you know, he's just
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  Speaker 2: he is kind.
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  Speaker 3: Of dope, strange.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, as a character, he's so funny, and we get
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  Speaker 2: the sense that Liz like, really this might be a
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  Speaker 2: good thing for Liz. I know, Luke kind of like
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  Speaker 2: played it off like, oh, you know, he's just another
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  Speaker 2: one of the string of men, but by the end
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  Speaker 2: he kind of realizes, Okay, maybe she really is.
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  Speaker 3: Settling down this time.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, there's a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: Of hope there, even though he is kind of a wacko.
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  Speaker 4: And speaking of like Liz and Luke, like I thought
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  Speaker 4: they're dynamic, like you, she's he puts her down a lot,
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  Speaker 4: you know, like, oh you're doing this now, Oh you're
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  Speaker 4: doing this now.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, well, how much has she done to make
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  Speaker 1: him that way?
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  Speaker 4: You know? But like also I was just like, quit
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  Speaker 4: putting your little sister down, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 4: My brother was talking to me that way. I was
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  Speaker 4: just like, dude, let it be, you know. But also
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  Speaker 4: we don't know how much Liz has done, right, Like
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  Speaker 4: tell how.
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  Speaker 3: Many dances has he given her?
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  Speaker 2: Fast? And she's blown it, Like I think he's just
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  Speaker 2: kind of jaded. Yeah, and he's like, this is just
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  Speaker 2: the same old Liz. So got some work to do
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  Speaker 2: to prove that she's made a change.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, And I liked the juxtaposition of the two
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  Speaker 4: views of Luke, like when you get just in you
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  Speaker 4: don't need to fix everything, and then you have Liz saying.
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  Speaker 3: He's my hero.
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  Speaker 4: And I loved, loved that because it was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: he's both you know, you know, sometimes he does get
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  Speaker 4: overly involved, but also you know that's it's a blessing
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  Speaker 4: and a curse to care so much about something, want
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  Speaker 4: to be there for people and be the stable one,
• 11:02
  Speaker 4: you know, because you do like take a toll on
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  Speaker 4: yourself for putting everybody else in front of you, and
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  Speaker 4: you know, and so it's like, i mean, come on,
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  Speaker 4: we're moms.
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  Speaker 1: We know what that's like.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's yeah exactly, and when you know, Jess
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  Speaker 2: is so mean to Luke in this episode, but then
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  Speaker 2: Luke still leaves the money in Jess's car, like like
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  Speaker 2: it's just that's just who Luke is.
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  Speaker 3: He just takes care of things.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, like when he shows up to fix
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  Speaker 2: laurel I's window, that's just what he does. He just
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  Speaker 2: takes care of things.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. So yeah, it was nice.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, this was This was a good Luke episode,
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  Speaker 2: I think, yeah, And I loved that We're kind of
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  Speaker 2: like jumping around in the timeline, but I'm gonna do
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  Speaker 2: it anyway. The when Liz gives Luke the earrings that
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  Speaker 2: she made and she says, you can give these to
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  Speaker 2: your wife, or Laurel I like she even you can
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  Speaker 2: see that there's something no there, like and that you
• 12:04
  Speaker 2: know clearly obviously we're at the point of the season
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  Speaker 2: where it's building up quickly to the to the Luke
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  Speaker 2: and Lorelei stuff. But but even Liz, you know, in
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  Speaker 2: all her crazy self, she can even see that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's going on, especially when they meet too in
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  Speaker 4: the truck, you know, and like how how like Laura
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  Speaker 4: Lauren did a good job face acting, but like how
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  Speaker 4: she like softens her expressions when when Liz is talking
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  Speaker 4: about how he's she's always there for me, He's always
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  Speaker 4: there for me. And then Laurlai says maybe he's a
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  Speaker 4: good one, maybe he's the good one.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like that line, I jotted it out.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe the good one, and I was like, she's so
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  Speaker 4: slowly you're seeing the feelings and it's like, oh, yes,
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  Speaker 4: he's yeah, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, yeah, And this is this is why I love
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  Speaker 2: this part of the series. I just love, like the
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  Speaker 2: end of season four is I don't know, it's just
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  Speaker 2: my favorite part, Like watching that that.
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  Speaker 1: Develop, yeah, because we have so much build up, yes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's like we've been waiting for you know,
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  Speaker 2: all three and a half season.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're finally we're finally getting it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really good.
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  Speaker 2: One thing I noticed when when Jess was in the
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  Speaker 2: bakery and Rory sees him there and then he goes
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  Speaker 2: out the door. Did you notice that, like whatever sweatshirt
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  Speaker 2: he was wearing, like they had the logos all taped up,
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: and it was like, yeah, your back of the sweatshirt,
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: Like why would they not have just put him in
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  Speaker 2: a plane sweatshirt?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Like or maybe that's the logo I don't know,
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  Speaker 4: or maybe it's Levis and they're taping it up because
• 13:41
  Speaker 4: it's the FIFA World Cup, like what happened with.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just kidding, you know, like a little I can understand,
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  Speaker 2: like you would tape it up, but on the back
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  Speaker 2: of the sweatshirt it was literally big.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I noticed that too.
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  Speaker 4: I noticed something else too, when they meet Crazy Care
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  Speaker 4: and Luke walks in to the diner and you see
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  Speaker 4: a logo on Crazy carries back and it's baby Fat
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  Speaker 4: the kitty.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't even her jacket, yes, and IVEN know it
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  Speaker 1: because I used to own Baby Fat.
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  Speaker 4: I just wanted that kitty logo and then I got
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  Speaker 4: I wonder if it's still like because it was very
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  Speaker 4: in that era when this Parent's two thousand and four.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, you know, right out of high school
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  Speaker 1: and then and they still make clothes. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: it's still it's still yeah, I know, it's so funny.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that's a throwback.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: And we got a quick appearance from Babbett in this episode.
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  Speaker 3: We haven't yes for a while, so that was fun.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I like her small kitchen. I kept looking at
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  Speaker 1: her kitchen because it's small.
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  Speaker 3: It's small.
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  Speaker 2: And did you notice I've never paid attention before, but
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  Speaker 2: all the cat statues, like that whole wall where they
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: were sitting, it was just all like little cat figurines
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: and cat statues.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, they were holding one.
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  Speaker 3: They were holding a cat.
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  Speaker 2: Ye.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, it's cute, very cute.
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  Speaker 2: And they had I noticed in the wide shot you
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  Speaker 2: could see under her couch there was like a bunch
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  Speaker 2: of electrical equipment.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, set things.
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  Speaker 3: That they probably didn't know we were going to see
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  Speaker 3: twenty years.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, right, So I did notice something.
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  Speaker 4: I pulled to Suzanne and we watched and I was
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  Speaker 4: like okay, because I watched the first time when I
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: had to do this with Scott because I produced that,
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: and then I was like, okay, I gotta watch again
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: to have my Suzanne eyes on. And so I noticed,
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  Speaker 4: you know, when Jess is pushing the car Downstars Hollow
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  Speaker 4: and there's a whole bunch of traffic and all that,
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: and he's talking to Luke and they're pushing and all that.
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: Up, I was looking at the license plates, every single one.
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  Speaker 4: Most of them had Connecticut because it was all blue,
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  Speaker 4: and I wonder if they missed one.
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: They did.
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: They missed one and it was from Florida and it
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: had the orange in the middle.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, and it's.
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  Speaker 4: Right when like Luke and Jess are like going at
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: it about you know, like oh, that's funny, the Budweiser
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: Clyesdale joke and whatever it was, you know, like yeah.
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: And so I was like, oh, I found something I
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: read somewhere.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: And I have no idea if this is true, because
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: I can't even remember where I read it, so I
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: can't go back and verify it.
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: But I remember reading somewhere that in some of.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: Those scenes where they had a lot of cars, like
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: milling around the town square. They were like cast members
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: or crew members, so they wouldn't have to go rent cars.
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: They just had like the crew members cars would be
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: parked there, they'd be rolling around.
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: Someone who knows, but that's.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: Probably Yeah, I thought it something.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: I didn't even that.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, one thing, and this this isn't necessarily a mistake,
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: but I noticed in the scene the handful of Barbie scenes,
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: so Luke is at lorealized house fixing the window and
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: he cuts himself and she's using that red towel.
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: To kind of blot blood. She just like drops the
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: bloody towel on the couch.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: And I noticed that too.
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: That's gonna stain your upholster.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: I literally I noticed that too.
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: I was like that the red, the red thing is
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: on the couch. I was like, and you have a
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: tan couch. I would not do that, yeah, like in
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: real life. And I was looking, was like, is there
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: any stains or anything. Also when he was sitting there,
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: because it was really like on the bottom of the
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: shure there's a lot, it was like really would sure, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: And then he talked, he says like, oh I fell back,
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: and I felt like Kirk and all that. I would
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: love to see that scene of him going into the
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: window and then falling.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: Off and then stumbling in. I was like, but then
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: that would require like stunts and all.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: That, but yeah, it would have. It would have been funny.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: We have to just imagine it.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: But my husband pointed out, He's like, but if it's
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: so cold, why is her bedroom window open upstairs?
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: Like, well maybe it was just unlocked unlocked. Yeah, yeah,
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: some people use open to me unlocked.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: But yeah, exactly because like I put down our windows
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: as just like you.
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: Know, the up to down, and I don't want them
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: all the time. So it's yea, yeah, probably that they're
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: talking about Loretta Bobbins. I thought they said Loretta Bobbin
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: And I was like, huh, I can.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: Never talk about the woman who cut off the guys,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: And I was like that peaked.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: I did the same thing the first time I watched.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: I'm like, wait, really, why why would they pick that name?
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: But and then like you realize she says Bobbins, but
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: very clearly, so it is.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: Very close. And I was like, oh, you know, Dan Palladino,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: whoever wrote this?
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: Like who did write this?
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: It was oh? Amy Sherman Palladino like she's getting sp
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: say she put that in, but no she it wasn't.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Speaking of which, my favorite Laura in this episode is
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: when TJ tells Luke thanks, you're a dick. Yeah, but
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: that that has like worked its way into our family's
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: just you know, generic language and so yeah.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: My husband will hand me something. I'll be like yeah,
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: so yeah, it's all good.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: It was good.
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: And I like the music Grantly Phillips song and it
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: was just like so magical, like.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: The you know, like that scene when he goes and
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: you know, exits.
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: And talks to them and all that, and it's just
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: cute like brother sister conversation.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: It was meaningful.
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: He says I'm sorry and all that, and I think
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: that's what he really wanted to hear and to get
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: his head around, like Liz and the situation and Jess,
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: because I think Luke holds a lot of like I
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: couldn't help him, and then like you know, she kind
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: of resolved it for him, says he's nineteen, you can't
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean? So I think he blames
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: a lot because of the whole Rory situation, and he
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: blames like I brought him into this town and like
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: it's a lot on himself, and so I I think
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: that was nice conversation to wrap that up.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree, because he is all, like we
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: just said, he is the one that always fixes things,
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: and so because he couldn't fix this est situation, he internalized.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: That as like a failure on his part. Yeah really wasn't.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: Like he's never parented a seventeen year old before, and
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: this is a particularly easy seventeen year old. Like, yeah,
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: he did his best and he has no fault in this,
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: but he just felt like he had done a bad job.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: And so Liz kind of lifted that off of him.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: So yeah, that's nice.
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so now he can, like and again you're seeing
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: these emotional moments with Luke of like him coming to
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: terms of like who he is and what he can
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: handle and what he wants to do for others. You know,
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: throughout this part of the season that it's preparing him.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, a lie for him to be fully open to.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: Like go for it, you know, And I love it.
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: I just love I really like this season. I'm with
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: you when you know you say, like like half of
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: four and five, I'm like right there, with you not.
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: Even Amelia is so cute in this episode.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: He was his hair was on point, he looked really
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: I was just gonna say about the ear rings. So
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: Luke gave Lorlie the ear rings, but then says, Liz
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: wanted you to have them, Like he made it clear
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: that they like he wanted her to think that they
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: were from Liz and not from him. But obviously they
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: really were from him because he chose to give them to.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: Her and not to all.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: So he's like right on the edge there of that
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: there's some feelings there. So it's just that fun kind
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: of lead up to Yeah, it happened, So it was.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: It was good.
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: And of course they have Kirk, you know, be the
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: like funny, comical stars hollow person with the like Roger
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: Roger you know, like and screaming and all that. I
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: was like, it was such a good blend of like
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: the stars hollowness of the show and what why people
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: love the show?
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, I really loved that whole festival thing.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: I always liked the town events. I know I say
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: that like every single episode, but I really like the
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: town Festival and it reminded me, especially watching it this time.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: It reminded me so much of Holidays.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Made Here because the last night of Holidays Made Here,
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: it had been raining all day, so the town square
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: was all wet, just like it was in the show.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: In this episode, and just hearing like the Grantly Phillips
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: music and you know, everybody's just kind of milling around.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: It totally reminded me of that last night of Holidays
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Made Here. Scott left, some of us went back into
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: stars Hollow and we went to the Secret Bar and
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: we had drinks with some of the some of the Warner.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: People, and it just was such a nice moment.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: And then we all because they had the the thing
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: where they projected the scenes from the show on the buldings.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: So when they did that, we all walked out and
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: watched the last one of those and it was just
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: like I was watching it this episode, I'm like, oh
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: my gosh, that was so much like that, and like
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: it was like being at an actual firelight festival.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: That's nice, that's all. But yeah, it was yeah, cool, Yeah,
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: that's nice. A great episode.
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there was one line that I want to say
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: that I also tolt you down another one so with.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Right after they meet TJ.
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: Jess and Luke meet TJ and they're outside in this
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: and the outside outside the door, and Jess lets him
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: have it. But they were like, he's a grown man
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: with an Etches sketch. And then Jess says, shake him
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: real hard and make maybe you'll disappear. And I was like,
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: what the heck, shake him real hard. I'm like, this
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: is such clever writing. I was like, that was another
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: line I jotted down.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: And I don't even know if if people nowadays, like
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: I grew up in the seventies, so I had an
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Etche sketch, but I don't know if people.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: Even know what an etch sketch is.
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: Anyway, it is still sold in in in toy stories
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: because I just went to Geppetos. It's that toy store
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: in malls, you know that I got wet Stoll Malls,
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: and they do have an Etch sketch. And I was
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: like trying to get my son to do like because
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: my son's three, and I'm trying to get him to
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: do the classic stuff, you know, it's like the wooden trains,
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: like not as much plastic, you know, like the you know,
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: and we got him Operation and Connect four, but he's
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: still a little small for that. But you know, we're
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: trying to we have the game of life, but he's
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: obviously too small for that. Yeah, but we're trying to
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: get him that kind of stuff. So it is still around. Okay,
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: it is still around.
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: That's good to know. Good.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we have a good episode. I really liked this episode.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: So happy to come on and talk about its hearts
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: on Jerry Day.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: I know, it's nice to change things up. So yeah,
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: it's great to have a conversation about it. So that
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: wraps it up for this week.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: Next week we will be talking about season four, episode fourteen,
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: the incredible Sinking Laurelize.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: So this was the dual meltdowns are coming.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Yes, we got so much Danes in this one. We
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: get so much Gilmour's in the next one.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: Yes, Yes, another good episode. All right, Well with that,
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: we'll see you next week.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: And oh I get to say it meeting adjourned Hey
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: dot Hey, everybody.
• 25:44
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• 25:48
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