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Cincinnati Reds team preview w/C. Trent Rosecrans · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: They have to manage, and that's a whole different set
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  Speaker 1: of skills than coaching. And with Dusty, with with Tito,
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  Speaker 1: these are two of the greatest to ever do it.
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  Speaker 2: All right, here we go.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to bring Sea Trent rosecrants on in a
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  Speaker 3: minute from the Athletic to go over the Cincinnati grad
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  Speaker 3: to twenty twenty five storylines. And also we will maybe
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  Speaker 3: get a little insight on one more move.
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  Speaker 4: We get one more move a stebis one little reliever move.
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  Speaker 5: Come on now, someone.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe maybe make it say he's always in one car,
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  Speaker 2: always one more We're getting a little Carlos step.
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  Speaker 4: Is actually sorry about that.
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  Speaker 5: Guys, you're good.
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  Speaker 4: Where are you?
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  Speaker 2: Where are you're moving to? Now?
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  Speaker 4: Now I'm going to pick up someone from the airport.
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  Speaker 4: I love you, got your song.
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  Speaker 1: I'm making a bench. Yeah that's body. He's TV star.
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  Speaker 1: Oh it's damn it.
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  Speaker 4: It flipped.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah on the same one.
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  Speaker 4: Very all right.
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  Speaker 3: See, Trent's going to help us run through storylines for
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  Speaker 3: the reds Ellie's rise. Inter do we have a nice
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  Speaker 3: healthy rotation now Terry Francona entering the mix and maybe
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  Speaker 3: a little more firepower for the starting nine see Trent.
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  Speaker 3: Let's start with my dude. Can Ellie de la Cruz
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  Speaker 3: take the next step? Since he led the league in
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  Speaker 3: stolen bases but also in strikeouts, because he was a
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  Speaker 3: star last year, can he take another step to become
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  Speaker 3: a superstar, top whatever ten player in the sport.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean that's a simple answer.
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  Speaker 1: Like you know, there are certain guys that you just
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  Speaker 1: don't question anything I used to say about Joey Vado
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  Speaker 1: that you know, you could tell me anything about Joey
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  Speaker 1: and I'd believe it. That was as much about off
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  Speaker 1: the field as anything with Ellie. There's nothing on the
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  Speaker 1: field that you could tell me that he is capable
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  Speaker 1: of doing that I wouldn't believe.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I believe it. I believe it.
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  Speaker 6: Something they struggled with innings. They're eating it and they
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  Speaker 6: need to eat innings. And some of it has to
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  Speaker 6: do with how the pitchers are brought up. Some of
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  Speaker 6: it has to do with the fact that there was injuries.
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  Speaker 6: They bring in Brady Singer. Are we going to get
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  Speaker 6: somebody else that's gonna gobble innings up?
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  Speaker 1: You know? I think the hope is Nick Martinez, who's
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  Speaker 1: a guy who was kind of back and forth between
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  Speaker 1: the rotation and the bullpen last year. But when at
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  Speaker 1: the end of the year when it was said, hey,
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  Speaker 1: we're giving you a shot because they didn't have really
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  Speaker 1: any other chances up, he became a twenty one million
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  Speaker 1: dollar player. Nick Martinez was just phenomenal last year. I think, really,
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  Speaker 1: when you look at it, here's one guy that if
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  Speaker 1: you look at what he did last year, and especially
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  Speaker 1: if you take out the first couple starts when he
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  Speaker 1: was like, Hey, we're gonna keep you here until people
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  Speaker 1: get like ready, and I think it was like Nicklodolo
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  Speaker 1: to get healthy and some of those other guys. If
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  Speaker 1: you take those starts away and just do everything from
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  Speaker 1: May on, he was phenomenal, and I think you can
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  Speaker 1: follow that up and do it for a full season.
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  Speaker 1: It's a guy who knows what a major league season
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  Speaker 1: is like. He's been through them, not necessarily as a
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  Speaker 1: full time starter, but is certainly.
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  Speaker 4: A big part of it.
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  Speaker 1: And so, yeah, you guys are right, like that is
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  Speaker 1: that's the thing this team has been looking for for
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  Speaker 1: Shoot Todd since you know, twenty twelve, you guys, I
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  Speaker 1: think used five pitchers for one hundred and sixty one games.
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  Speaker 1: You had to use a second one for a doubleheader
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  Speaker 1: rain makeup game, and that was the only one out
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  Speaker 1: of the top five that that didn't work. Didn't make
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  Speaker 1: every start. I don't see that happening. But it's been
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  Speaker 1: since then that you're just looking for innings and come
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  Speaker 1: September it's it can be pushing guys too soon.
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  Speaker 4: Now. Luckily, last year, I think one of the big
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  Speaker 4: things was they had.
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  Speaker 1: A guy ready who was probably a little ahead of
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  Speaker 1: anybody's expected schedule and that and Rhet Louder and Rhet
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  Speaker 1: Louder came in and was great. And right now he
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  Speaker 1: doesn't look like he's the guy who might not break
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  Speaker 1: camp with him.
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  Speaker 4: But that's good. If a guy who made like.
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  Speaker 1: Five starts last year and had like a one something eer,
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  Speaker 1: if that's one of your reserves, you're feeling pretty good.
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  Speaker 2: Very much so, very much.
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  Speaker 4: So.
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  Speaker 2: Now on to Tito Frankcona. How do you see this
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  Speaker 2: playing out?
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  Speaker 4: Man?
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  Speaker 2: This guy has been doing it before. He's brought up
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  Speaker 2: some young teams. Is he is he the guy that's
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  Speaker 2: gonna help this team get over a hump and get
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  Speaker 2: an NL Central uh you know title in the mix
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  Speaker 2: right away? Or is it gonna take time.
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  Speaker 1: For him again. I mean, I hate to do this
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  Speaker 1: and sound like I'm like kissing Todd's butt, but it's
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  Speaker 1: it reminds me a lot like Dusty, right, you know,
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  Speaker 1: if you know, I've never done that to you, but
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  Speaker 1: it reminds me of Dusty, like a.
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  Speaker 4: Guy that comes in and is the thing that.
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  Speaker 1: You would talk about with Dusty is he's he's a chameleon.
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  Speaker 1: I always would say, like I could have I could
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  Speaker 1: spend a day with Dusty, have the greatest conversations of
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  Speaker 1: my life and never talk about baseball. Now with Tito,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how much he it's non baseball, but
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  Speaker 1: I would have the greatest baseball conversations.
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  Speaker 4: But he can connect with everybody.
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  Speaker 1: And you've seen that, you know, from young guys, really
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  Speaker 1: helping out young guys of both Latin guys and American guys.
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  Speaker 1: His track record is just inscrutable, and I think that's
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  Speaker 1: that is a hope. And I think the right manager
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  Speaker 1: manager's a weird position. I always note that, like they're
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  Speaker 1: called managers not coaches because they have to manage and
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  Speaker 1: that's a whole different set of skills than coaching. And
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  Speaker 1: with Dusty, with Tito, these are two of the greatest
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  Speaker 1: to ever do it. And you had a young team
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  Speaker 1: with some young talent on the rise background twenty ten
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  Speaker 1: with the Reds, and I think Tito is kind of
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  Speaker 1: very similar at this point.
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  Speaker 6: How about some more firepower? You talk about a young
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  Speaker 6: team on the rise, A lineup. We don't have Todd Frazier,
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  Speaker 6: we don't have Joey Vado, we don't even have an
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  Speaker 6: aging Brandon Phillips. Like we have Matt McClain this year,
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  Speaker 6: Edwin and Carnacions and like TJ Friedol Ellie did the Cruz.
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  Speaker 6: Is there more firepower in this lineup this year than
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  Speaker 6: last year, just with those guys being healthy.
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  Speaker 4: With Matt McLean, I mean, McLain is one of those guys.
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  Speaker 1: You guys have all played with, guys that you're just like,
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  Speaker 1: not the flashiest, but just gets things done. And Matt
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  Speaker 1: McClain is a ballplayer, right, and you can never have
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  Speaker 1: too many ballplayers.
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  Speaker 4: And they missed him last year.
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  Speaker 1: The combination of Ellie and McLain is it's fascinating to me.
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  Speaker 4: I saw it first when I saw them in the miners.
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  Speaker 1: And you know the kind of the odd couple, uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, one is five foot nine ten. The other
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  Speaker 1: is six foot five, six seven whatever he is, you know,
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  Speaker 1: southern California kid, a ginger. And then you have, you know,
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  Speaker 1: a kid from the Dominican with dreadlocks. It's great. But
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  Speaker 1: the thing is, and you guys will understand when I
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  Speaker 1: say this, I watched them through the miners and they
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  Speaker 1: were both shortstops. Shortstops are always shortstops in their mind.
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  Speaker 1: Todd probably still thinks he could play shortstop right now
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  Speaker 1: because they're like that.
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  Speaker 4: And it takes a hey, this is my.
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  Speaker 1: Team when you're a shortstop. I think shortstops have that,
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  Speaker 1: Catchers have that, and center fielders have that.
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  Speaker 4: And there was no jealousy between the two.
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  Speaker 1: Matt McClain didn't care that Ellie got all the headlines
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  Speaker 1: because he's like, oh, yeah, it makes sense. He's just
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  Speaker 1: a ballplayer. Ellie didn't care that people said, Hell, this
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  Speaker 1: McClain guy's pretty good too. He's playing short today and
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  Speaker 1: you're playing third. They didn't care. And I talked to also,
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  Speaker 1: like some veterans who were their teammates, and they said
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  Speaker 1: that was the beauty of it. When they were like
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  Speaker 1: in Triple A, you know you talk about some longtime
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  Speaker 1: big leaguers and.
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  Speaker 4: They saw it.
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  Speaker 1: They know these things, and that's huge, and that's tough
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  Speaker 1: to Missing McClain last year was huge. That's the difference
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  Speaker 1: between a disappointment and a playoff team last year.
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  Speaker 3: For me, yeah, a lot of people thought that way.
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  Speaker 3: I switch my prediction before the season started once McLean
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  Speaker 3: went down. Thank you for joining us. Safe travels back
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  Speaker 3: on the road. Thanks for pulling over for us. Appreciate you.
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  Speaker 4: Man.
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  Speaker 3: We'll catch you soon. Okay, my bad, No, you're good,
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  Speaker 3: You're good, perfect quality. There you got boom, We'll take it.
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  Speaker 3: Todd Fathering, you played for the Reds.
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  Speaker 5: Stay there. What do you got?
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  Speaker 3: What do you got on this?
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  Speaker 2: They're dying for a winter man the whole You think
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  Speaker 2: about the surrounding states, you know, Indiana, West Virginia, to
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  Speaker 2: name a few, Kentucky. They all want the Reds to dominate.
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  Speaker 2: They're all Reds fans. They're they're right now. They're on
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  Speaker 2: the caravan. I got talking to Jose Travino. He's like, dude,
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  Speaker 2: this is incredible. All the places he's never heard of.
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  Speaker 2: On the Red's caravan. I did a five years straight.
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  Speaker 2: You're going to different, you know, hold onunk Ohio's, Kentucky's,
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  Speaker 2: West Virginia's, Indiana's and you're like a hundred people live
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  Speaker 2: in this ten mile radius town and they're like, come on, man,
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  Speaker 2: we want you there. Yep, we got deal and like
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  Speaker 2: and we got you. We're like this and that we
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  Speaker 2: make the playoffs.
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  Speaker 1: Nothing.
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  Speaker 2: But it's just one of those places where they'll be upset,
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  Speaker 2: but at the same time they still love you and
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  Speaker 2: they're like, it's not that what have you done for
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  Speaker 2: me lately? Attitude, but it's like we're.
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  Speaker 4: Still rooting for you.
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  Speaker 2: Come on the Red's Life, Red Land, you know. And
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  Speaker 2: I love those people and that's why I love playing
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  Speaker 2: there because they took the downs and the ups but
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  Speaker 2: they were even killed and they understood. But it's time though,
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  Speaker 2: play win and find a way to get in the playoffs,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, anything happening above, I think they do.
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  Speaker 5: I think they do.
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  Speaker 2: Health is the biggest concern. They had a lot of
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  Speaker 2: guys that were injured last year. If they could stay
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  Speaker 2: somewhat healthy, I think they do have an opportunity to
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  Speaker 2: do some damage in that division. Okay, I like them, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they don't do that. What you were you're either in
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  Speaker 2: on somebody or not.
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  Speaker 3: And you're winning the World Series in don't say that,
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  Speaker 3: but can they make the playoffs?
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  Speaker 6: Absolutely the super high ceiling for their pitching staff.
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  Speaker 4: Nast Louder showed some stuff pretty soon.
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  Speaker 6: And the what he can do from the left side.
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  Speaker 6: Dudes that I've talked to that faced him on the Phillies,
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  Speaker 6: he dominated the Phillies two or three straight, like ten
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  Speaker 6: plus strikeout games against him. He's nasty. You have that potential.
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  Speaker 6: Hunter Green took a huge stride here staying but stay healthy.
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  Speaker 6: Dudes that are Charman out there like gotta get after it.
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  Speaker 6: Andrew Abbott was looking Rookie of the Year style. So
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  Speaker 6: you sit there and you go they have the makings
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  Speaker 6: of it. I think their lineup is almost a World
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  Speaker 6: Series Maybe I'm maybe I'm sneaky, I'm off on that,
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  Speaker 6: but you have an MVP candidate, Ellie, you have another
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  Speaker 6: one in McLean and TJ. Friedel just drives in all
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  Speaker 6: the runs.
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  Speaker 4: Baby, look out for Chase Burns.
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  Speaker 5: Baby.
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  Speaker 3: All right, for the people, try to answer some quickie
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  Speaker 3: questions here before we go to break. Sicilian said or
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  Speaker 3: the jays of World Series contender if they signed Pete Max.
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  Speaker 2: Right, I would say, yes, they're World Series contender. Wow,
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  Speaker 2: I would say all the teams, no, sixty seventy percent
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  Speaker 2: of teams the World Series contenders after what they did
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  Speaker 2: in freeency. How can you sit there and say they're
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  Speaker 2: not World Series contenders with some of the guys they
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  Speaker 2: picked up.
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  Speaker 4: Don't I don't think it's enough.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's your opinion.
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  Speaker 4: That's right, Yes, there you go.
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  Speaker 6: There it is what who says they can't be a
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  Speaker 6: World Series Look at the teams that have won the
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  Speaker 6: World Series in the last three years. Compare them to
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  Speaker 6: the not current roster, the roster with Max Scherzer and
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  Speaker 6: Pete Alonzo.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, don't say that.
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  Speaker 6: Are they better than Is their lineup better than the
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  Speaker 6: Texas Rangers lineup? Do they have a Do they have
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  Speaker 6: a Nathan Valdi that steps up and absolutely shuts the
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  Speaker 6: door in the World Series? Max Max Schurzer comes back
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  Speaker 6: and and just absolutely just deals in as a lights
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  Speaker 6: out pitcher. I don't think it's enough.
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  Speaker 2: I don't a few nickels on them before the season
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  Speaker 2: started to make it to the World Series.
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  Speaker 4: I wouldn't. That's that's wrong.
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  Speaker 3: And l is much stronger than the al Still, the.
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  Speaker 2: Dodgers are winning it for the next twenty years, so
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 4: That's right.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, why are we even doing this show? Why are
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  Speaker 3: you watching?
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  Speaker 4: Why are they?
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  Speaker 3: The Dogs have won every year for ten years, right
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  Speaker 3: they They.
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  Speaker 2: Could have ten injuries and still have a really good
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  Speaker 2: I hope this year because of the Dodgers.
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  Speaker 6: Instead of everybody coming in best ship my life, people
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  Speaker 6: start coming and be like fattest I've ever heard. What
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  Speaker 6: because of the Dodgers. Because the Dodgers are too good?
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  Speaker 6: It doesn't matter. I'm just looking to I'm just looking
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  Speaker 6: to play out my contract goes. I'm not on the
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  Speaker 6: Dodgers and they're gonna win.
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  Speaker 4: No, that doesn't happen.
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  Speaker 6: Dudes are Dudes are in the thick of it right now.
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  Speaker 6: They are in the thick of it, full go BP
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  Speaker 6: ground balls at home in the cold, long toss to win.
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  Speaker 4: That's what they want to do. Oh you did that
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  Speaker 4: right now.