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Lavonte David Opens Up About Retiring From The NFL + What's Next For Him? | Bussin' With The Boys · Bussin' With The Boys

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  Speaker 2: the cat out of the bag. It's Levante David. Levante
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  Speaker 2: David co hosting the Busting with the Boys intro for
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  Speaker 2: Taylor ended up having to catch a flight, so we
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  Speaker 2: had to leave for the last what thirty minutes, So,
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  Speaker 2: which just mean you reminiscing on some old times, but
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  Speaker 2: that means? I'm going off you. It means you're we're talking.
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  Speaker 2: We got the audience engage right now that we're talking
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  Speaker 2: with the audience. We're going over some clean takes, some
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  Speaker 2: callbacks from last week talking about what's going on in
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  Speaker 2: our world. I'll tee you up for this one. I
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  Speaker 2: had a comment that I left in the YouTube section
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  Speaker 2: last week before we played Iowa Huskers are going to
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  Speaker 2: the Elite eight. That didn't happen. Are you a basketball guy? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Basketball? You keeping up with March Madness, Yes, I am,
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  Speaker 1: And they should have gone to the elite date. Honestly,
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  Speaker 1: they played a really good game. I thought they was
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  Speaker 1: gonna make it, but some mishaps in that game kind
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  Speaker 1: of like stop those guys from going to the lead eight,
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  Speaker 1: which is, you know, for their first time actually being
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  Speaker 1: in the tournament or not being in it, but actually
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  Speaker 1: getting that far. I thought they pretty played pretty well.
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  Speaker 2: First time ever. We talk about the year that the
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  Speaker 2: Huskers had, first start, where we've had, we started twenty
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  Speaker 2: to zero, first time we've had a win in March Madness,
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  Speaker 2: first time we've ever been to the Sweet sixteenth. Yep,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of records being broke, but yeah, first time,
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  Speaker 2: first time round to thirty two. Hang the banners. You
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  Speaker 2: can't have four guys on the court. You can't have
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  Speaker 2: four guys at the end of the game. But yeah, can't.
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  Speaker 1: But let's just go to show, you know, if they
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  Speaker 1: you know, more experience being in there that may may
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  Speaker 1: not have happened.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, next year we were Let's let's win the whole thing, right,
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  Speaker 2: let's just win the whole thing.
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  Speaker 1: They can it could happen.
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  Speaker 2: a clean take? To set this one up? Clean take?
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  Speaker 2: You should have five guys on the court at the
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  Speaker 2: the whole time. Clean take? Right, yeah, clean take? Right
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  Speaker 2: here we have it. Somebody who commented on last week's episode.
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  Speaker 2: When we're looking at those comments, Luke green Street seven
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  Speaker 2: thousand and three didn't know much about Cam Jurgens before
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  Speaker 2: the episode other than he was Kelsey's replacement. After watching this,
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  Speaker 2: I fucked with this catch so heavy, just the true dudes, dude,
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  Speaker 2: big fan and look forward to seeing him do good
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  Speaker 2: things next season. That's a clean take, clean comment.
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  Speaker 4: I have.
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  Speaker 1: You know Cas, I know Cam Durgons I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: I keep up with a lot of guys coming down
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  Speaker 1: of Nebraska.
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  Speaker 2: Bro.
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  Speaker 1: I like I still watch Nebraska football, Like I know something,
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  Speaker 1: I know you do. I just don't know if you
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  Speaker 1: knew if we played it was a lot these past
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  Speaker 2: I forget you guys still both playing the league.
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  Speaker 1: So I got a chance to actually like meet him
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  Speaker 1: a couple of times. But you know, uh, he started
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  Speaker 1: at guard before he moved to center.
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  Speaker 2: for the Realaska. I didn't know all that well. You
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  Speaker 2: death obviously, he carved his way into being a second
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  Speaker 2: This is where we just have fun with the people
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  Speaker 1: And my boy is a close friend of mine as
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you should take your watch, take take
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  Speaker 1: a look at it.
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  Speaker 2: What do you want to talk about?
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  Speaker 5: Man?
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  Speaker 2: Entertain the fans.
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  Speaker 1: Shit, what could we talk about? Let's talk about like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about football, man, Sometimes I
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  Speaker 2: Well we just talked about it for two and a
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  Speaker 1: That's what we're supposed to do. So yeah, but let's
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  Speaker 2: I can, I can. I can throw a rod. You'd
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  Speaker 2: have to hook it for me. Like there's worms, like
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  Speaker 2: a get me right on the worm throat. That's about the.
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  Speaker 1: Most I know how to do. Though I'm not into
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  Speaker 1: fishing like that.
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  Speaker 2: But like you're just saying, let's go fishing to day. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: what about golf?
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  Speaker 1: I don't really golf, man, I blow back. So I
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  Speaker 1: told myself I'm gonna get a month worth worth of golf. Listen,
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  Speaker 1: then I'm gonna go out of golf. I think I
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  Speaker 1: want to get into golf. So you can try to
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  Speaker 1: get into golfing now. I want to try to get
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  Speaker 1: just as a hobby, like I never had.
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  Speaker 2: You retired, you're wealth.
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  Speaker 1: I never had a hobby, bro, So I think I
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  Speaker 1: need to start getting getting getting a hobby and doing
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  Speaker 1: something being outdoors get a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, did you see Tiger Woods ever the weekend brought up?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I say tag over the weekend and it happened
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  Speaker 1: like right before the.
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  Speaker 2: Masters, which is like it's a tough beat man, But
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  Speaker 2: what are we doing? What are we doing?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like your Tiger Woods, like you should have a
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  Speaker 1: driver or something like.
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  Speaker 2: That's what blows my mind, is dog, you are so wealthy. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the accidents he's been in already. Yeah, the resume you
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  Speaker 2: already have that you've rehabilitated or tried abilitating over the
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  Speaker 2: last however many years. Like even if I take the
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  Speaker 2: mindset of if you're going to be under the influence
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  Speaker 2: and you still do that, why would you just not
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  Speaker 2: have a driver at all times?
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  Speaker 6: Right?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, Like when every time I see like
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  Speaker 1: those top athletes like Lebron Jane Fanstan, I don't think
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  Speaker 1: Lebron James drive. I see Steph Curry, I don't think
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  Speaker 1: Steph Curry drive. I think all those dudes have like
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  Speaker 1: personal drivers and stuff like that when they're going out
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  Speaker 1: about in the town and things like that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta have a driver, man, Just again, it
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  Speaker 2: to me is what we're doing, Like get your boy. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 5: You'll see tigers like dating at Trump and like there
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  Speaker 5: was an executive order place that like Tiger is not
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  Speaker 5: allowed to drive around like Donald's nephew or niece or whatever.
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  Speaker 7: It is.
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  Speaker 2: Damn Like that is that is a law? Is ye?
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  Speaker 2: Is that real? Are you sure that that's a law.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I saw on X Yeah, he said that
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  Speaker 2: is a law. Did you when you saw the tweet?
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  Speaker 2: Did you get the comment section? I said, hey, Grock,
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  Speaker 2: is this real?
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  Speaker 1: I went through and somebody did that Grock approved it.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, then it's gotta be true. That's a lot I think.
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  Speaker 1: I think you have to look at Grock now, Like
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  Speaker 1: every time something come out, you have to look at
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  Speaker 1: Grock to see if it's true or not. Because every
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  Speaker 1: time I look at those social media stuff, I always
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  Speaker 1: think about that clip with on training day Densel Washington
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  Speaker 1: talking to Hawk like this is bullsh and entertains me. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so like now you want to interrupt, so now you
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  Speaker 1: entertain me. So I look at it like that to.
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  Speaker 2: People get horny with groh. Yeah, people do Brock switch
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  Speaker 2: these out when I mean I've been already remember when
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  Speaker 2: I came after Clay after the Bears beat the Packers.
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  Speaker 2: Hey Grock put him in a sure your meme was
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  Speaker 2: funny to get up one.
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  Speaker 8: Love any time I could get a Night of the
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  Speaker 8: Seven Kingdoms meme in there. Yeah, somebody team me up perfectly.
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  Speaker 8: The Kimerion ain't no pun intended up.
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  Speaker 2: And you you're a Game of Thrones guy, oh bro
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  Speaker 2: and my Game of Thrones. Guy, I love Game of Thrones. Yo,
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  Speaker 2: you were Game of Thrones.
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  Speaker 1: I love Game of Thrones. I've been watching Game of Thrones.
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  Speaker 1: I know it started like in twenty eleven, but I
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  Speaker 1: started watching in twenty thirteen, and I've been Have you
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  Speaker 1: watched Night in seven keen? I watched Night of seventheen,
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  Speaker 1: so you get the meme. Yeah, that's why I was looking. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I get it. I watched Night of seven kid. I
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  Speaker 1: like House of Dragons, House and Dragons and all that stuff. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm big on those things. I like those like I'm
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  Speaker 1: a big Lord of the Rings guy.
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  Speaker 2: Big TV show, Got a Big movie guy, Big TV Show,
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  Speaker 2: Big Movie guy.
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  Speaker 1: And Nebraska. I used to go to the movie by
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  Speaker 1: myself all.
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  Speaker 2: The damn time. You don't know, I know, but we're
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  Speaker 2: doing the show together, like I can't just have to
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  Speaker 2: Like you asked some questions to get you talk, and
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  Speaker 2: I can't just sit up here. Hey you like doing this,
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  Speaker 2: Hey you love doing that co hosting right right? You
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  Speaker 2: gotta gotta get favorite show of all time?
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  Speaker 1: That's a loaded question. That is a loaded questions. Favorite
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  Speaker 1: show of all time? I cannot not watch The Wire.
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  Speaker 1: I love the Wire.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't either, but everybody swears by the Wire.
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  Speaker 3: Wire.
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  Speaker 7: You.
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  Speaker 2: I did have a note during the podcast.
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  Speaker 8: I didn't want to throw it out to get off
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  Speaker 8: on a tangent.
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  Speaker 2: But y'all are talking about Bo Polini.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, and in my mind I was like, Bo Polini
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  Speaker 8: is Stana Sparattia, could have been king.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but he didn't want to do the game of throat.
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  Speaker 2: That's a great reference. Yeah, I really like that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we dive into some great We dive into some great
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  Speaker 2: bow Polini we do.
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  Speaker 1: That's a great one.
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  Speaker 2: You a Harry Potter fan, not as much.
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  Speaker 1: Mike is a huge Harry Potter fan, though I'm not
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  Speaker 1: a Harry Potter fan. I watched all of them, but
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  Speaker 1: I can't really get into him like I like him.
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  Speaker 1: I just watch them just to.
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  Speaker 2: Watch them, like I get excited.
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  Speaker 1: Nothing.
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  Speaker 2: I'm watching them.
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  Speaker 1: Nothing kind of got me going by watching them, but really, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't really like maybe because it wasn't enough action
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  Speaker 1: my type of action, I guess.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you do like violence kind of. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Did you see the they coming out with the TV series?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? I saw how you feel about that. I think
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  Speaker 2: it's gonna be amazing you think so. I think one
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  Speaker 2: thing that is absolutely bullshit is fucking Professor Snape because
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  Speaker 2: when you look, when you look back at all the
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  Speaker 2: books and all the movies and everything else, like not
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  Speaker 2: at any point is he wearing something with a zipper.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, not only that, but let's call it space. He's
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  Speaker 1: not black. Who Like, No, I can't I can't go.
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  Speaker 1: I can't rock with that, bro, Like honestly, oh so
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  Speaker 1: you hate that they got snap is blame that too,
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  Speaker 1: but that's a part of it. But like, no, I
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  Speaker 1: can't rock with it, bro, Okay, you just don't. It
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  Speaker 1: just don't fit the character.
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  Speaker 2: Where I'm sitting like I rock with that. I rock
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  Speaker 2: with that, but I'm saying like I'm not gonna say
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  Speaker 2: nothing like that. And then my whole thing about the
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  Speaker 2: Harry Potter and see if Mike Evan said, do you
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  Speaker 2: like the new professor Snake?
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  Speaker 1: He said no, Yeah, he said no, I don't like
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  Speaker 1: the casting. Well not the casting. He just said he
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  Speaker 1: I ain't say nothing boy to the casting, but he
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  Speaker 1: said he don't like it. You see what they're doing now,
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  Speaker 1: They're gonna redo Black Panther. Ryan Gosling is gonna be
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  Speaker 1: Black Panther.
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  Speaker 2: Got grop that. I don't think.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that's going to happen. But my thing
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  Speaker 1: about the Harry whole Harry Potter thing is like, instead
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  Speaker 1: of doing the whole like to just redoing it and
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  Speaker 1: put it in the TV series, I think they should
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  Speaker 1: do like a backstory like on the Parents or something
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  Speaker 1: like that, or just like yeah, something like that, like
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  Speaker 1: this definitely should have did that, right, Like Game Game
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  Speaker 1: of Thrones is doing the prequels and everything. I think
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  Speaker 1: that'd be cool.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, because they all the people that read the books
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  Speaker 5: have said the movies there's stuff that happens in the books,
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  Speaker 5: it doesn't happen. So I think each book is going
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  Speaker 5: to be a season for the show.
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  Speaker 2: They could do what he's saying. It's like, ultimately Harry
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  Speaker 2: Potter is starting the Game of Thrones playbook where they're
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  Speaker 2: diving in all of the books, right, and then now
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  Speaker 2: that once they have the Harry Potter Show established from there,
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  Speaker 2: you can have all of these you know, side quests parents.
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  Speaker 2: I think the snape, I think the movie. I'm sure,
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  Speaker 2: like I'm sure, like this dude is a great actor,
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  Speaker 2: but I don't know, like my image. Listen, we're on
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: the same page. But here's what I'll say. If HBO
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: is pouring all this into Harry Potter, Like if you're
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: revamping Harry Potter based off how successful the movies and
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: everything else was, you're taking a leap to do it
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: now as a TV series. I'm assuming that this dude
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: is going to crush for sure to to putever you know, yeah,
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: everybody's got their takes. I would think, I mean, he's zipper.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: I just want to make sure just to be clean,
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: like and stuff like that, like my image of that professor,
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: like that dude did a great job and that I
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: mean and like I seen like I feel like a.
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: Guy dark hair dam should have been the character. I
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: mean you're speaking facts, Yeah, people like why wasn't Adam
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: Driver casted? Yeah?
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's the perfect What is this.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: Right, here's the zipper like, oh, zoom you zoomed in. Yeah, well,
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: it's good to know you don't like it. Mike Evans
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: doesn't like it. Okay, but Mike eas a huge Harry
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: Potter fan.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: I believe you. Yeah, I like Harry Potter. Yeah, tattoo
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: you'll get No, no, no, I'm not a sickle like
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: that some people are. He's not gonna call my guy sickle.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: You call him a sickle.
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: No.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: Shico like obsessed loves just my fault, clean clean take
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: like Evan's not. I think he's just I ain't no nerd.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: Where was that going with that? What else is new
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: Man new ship?
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: I'm retired?
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we dive into that in the podcast. I mean
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: something we didn't talk about on the pod. We're talking
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: about both Polining Nebraska journeys like hilarious by the way,
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: the Jewco stories, but just too If people caught your
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: audio episode where you kind of had the broken audio
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: or if they didn't, is you when you got to
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: Nebraska taking my job?
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: I did not take your job, bro.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: Stop saying that.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: Listen, like I look at it as me taking your job,
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: like you being healthy and me actually like coming in
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: and taking your spot. That's me taking your job that
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: I only got only I only got put into the
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: job because you got hurt. Broke my foot, yeat broke
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: your foot. So like in any sense, like what it's called,
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: what's the.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: When I got healthy? No, man, it's it's a thing.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: It's it was a baseball player that he ended up.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: What's it called? You know what I'm saying.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: People say it all the time, Wally Pip in a sense,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: Wally Pip.
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I got healthy, and then my job was
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: nowhere to be found when I got back because you
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: had just taken the team by storm, which I mean
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: you're obviously fourteen years roarging for you.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: But we got a chance to play together.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: Man, he has a good.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: Times So that was really good.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: I reach state State, Yeah, State was good. State was good.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: It was my my my crash, dumb.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: It was fourth and short. They're on game winning drives,
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: trying to be on the game winning drive maybe third
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: and one and fourth and one third and one fourth.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: We run across dog. I'm the first blitzer, so I
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: basically eat up the blocker. Levonte comes around tied off
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: the hip, Silas Red hits him in the backfield, big boys. Yeah,
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: we win the game.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: Really cool. That was a cool moment. Top two moment.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: People are gonna forget, man, they shouldn't. They're going to.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: But yeah, when I uh, I'll never forget. Like the
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: thet the ego mental battle I was in when that
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: job wasn't there. When I got back for context, I
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: bring my Levonte comes to Nebraska. We have a great
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: time in the offseason. Levonte's working on the second field
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: with like the backup, the backup to the backup.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: Like fourth, yeah, fourth or fourth.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Linebacker. Sean Fisher was actually the starter in the Dying Packers.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: We ran a lot of one linebacker, one off the
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: ball linebacker. I was the two dime. Sean Fisher tears
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: his a c L from friendly fire in practice. Somebody
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: gets blocks always. I want to say, nawas Paul block
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: de Young goals into Sean Fisher's knee, Sean tears his
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: a CL.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Was Wait, was that a third dime or the fourth dime?
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: You were the third dime? I thought, unless it was
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: Zo and then they were just like, we're just gonna
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: play Levante. But you were third or fourth on the
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: death chart. You were starting the low end on the
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: tunnel pole. Like on the other field, Levante would flash
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: and practice, but Sean Fisher tears his acl. I go
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: up to starting dime. I was the starting backer in
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: our dying package. And it is the Thursday before opening
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: game for the season, and we're just in like a
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: jog through, and I plan on this stick route and
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: break my foot. It feels like a gun went off.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: A gun went off of my foot. I'm like limping around.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: I'm like hoping it calms down so we can either
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: tape it, I can get back in there. Whatever it is. Again,
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: we're going to open her so Redcher sophomore, excited, ready
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: to go, and I broke my foot. I was out
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: for like eight or nine weeks. Levante, I'm up in
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: my scooter. During the first game, I forget who we're playing.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: Who West Kentucky.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Western Kentucky comes to town. Lavante has thirteen tackles and
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: disintegrates one of the receivers over the middle. They catch
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: a pass. Avante murders of the dude stands up, throwing
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: the bones, him throwing the bones. That was that being
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: like your first start, first game whatever, Well, that was
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: basically on a car that was your card that me
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: and the receiver was that same year. But it wasn't
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: that game that was against uh, North Dakota State. Those
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: first couple of games, Yeah, it was.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: It was one of those first couple of games, the
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: first game because we in Western Kentucky. Like I had
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: some pretty good hits, but it wasn't that hit. Okay, okay,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: yeah I might have got those mixed up. Yeah, But
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Lavonte goes and he's just dominating. Bro Like doesn't know
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: a whole lot about the defense, Like he knows enough
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: clearly or they wanting to put him in. But he's
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: like his learning curve, like he's like learning on the
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: run because we do so many checks, so many tendency
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: oriented things, and the dudes just like unblockable, like a savage.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: We go out to Washington and he dominates. He's slipping
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: through block you're able to blitz him. Coach is kind
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: of learning. Like I'm sitting with Eck on the plane
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: ride back and he's talking up about how good Lavonte is.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: In my mind, I'm like, fuck, man, is there a
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: chance that like I'm not even gonna be the guy
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: when I get back healthy. I'm doing everything I can
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: to get healthy, but you can't like rush your broken bone.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: And uh then we play Kansas State State National National
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: Game Thursday night game. You're freaking have it all these
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: things to where when I come back and I'm healthy,
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: I'm sitting in the linebacker room and coaches ain't talking,
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: like he's not not talking to me, but Lavonte is
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: the focal point, and I'm just thinking, like damn, like
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: nobody sits you down, nobody says anything, Nobody talks about
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: the changes that are going to happen, Like it's just
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: this is a Levante's defense. It's a Levante's spot, and
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: obviously looking back, Levante's Levante. But I remember that time
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: and like there were frustrations, but it was like just
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: because again nobody, you're not like communicated, like all my
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: spot's gone.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, But the thing about that is, but you was
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: upbeat towards me the whole time, Like you stayed the
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: same the whole time. Like that's kind of like what
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: I really respected. Like you was like, man, I can't
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: wait to get out of there with you. Man, I
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: can't wait to get out there with you. I remember
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: when it first happened, and I came to see you
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: and he was crying and all that. You remember in
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: the training room, I'm like, damn, I was broken, bro,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: because it was like a Thursday, Bro, like a couple
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: of days for a game you hyped up you was signing,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: and then that that's had.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: A hell of an off season, you know. I did.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: I like spots started my freshman year, but I wasn't
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: like the guy and you're kind of motivate going to
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: that second one, like this is it like starting in
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: the brask A sophomore year and we did. We ran
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: a lot of one linebacker stuff, but you opened the
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: you kind of opened the gates for the two line. Yeah,
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: you could play two linebackers. Like Levante is good enough.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: He could play cover the fast cover man and man.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: And that's one thing that kind of like I told you,
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: like that off season, I want to talk to them.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: I like, no, I don't want to be the lonely
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: linebacker on the piel nomal. I want to be two linebackers.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: And that's when they moved me to the dimebacker and
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: he with the mic.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: So we had so many good times, man, We dive
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: into a lot of it in the in the episode,
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: but we forgot to not like for good, but it's
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: almost like kind of wrapping a bow on your entire career.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: I remember when y'all used to pick on me when
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: I used to call the stretches and used to about.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: As we're going through the interview and everything that is
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: st R is s K and structure. I would go
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: up to Boogie was his nickname in college to us,
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: and I would go up to Boogie, whether after practice
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: or in the locker room, and he would obviously make
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: me laugh and I would just like put my phone
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: up the record of my back.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that a lot, like what what are you doing?
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Stretch? Back scratch? Matter of fact, I want to take
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: a pause. I want to see if I can find it.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: You do all this type of stuff, just record me
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: for no reason, like bro.
• 24:49
  Speaker 9: Bro so many Well he's searching for Do you have
• 24:55
  Speaker 9: any other Will stories that whether it's in the locker
• 24:58
  Speaker 9: room house that are safe.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Will was a wild guy.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: I remember one time the party thing he was throwing
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: the house party at his house and like he had
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: this big ass cooler, you know, like I'm like, what
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: you doing with this cooler? And he got a bunch
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: of ice and just started mixing all the alcohols and stuff.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: And you remember that.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Remember I've been missing up all the alcohols and the
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: juices and stuff like that.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: And like, I don't even remember what happened that night,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: but I know it was probably a wild night. Like
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: that was my first time ever seen that. You got
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: all the that home, just like fuck it be for
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: the hangout tonight.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, damn, will this how you hang out?
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: Man?
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Willie White Boy first ever recorded voice memo. You still
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: got that? Yeah, Bro? October twenty eighth, twenty ten, is
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: this no no here, come here, here we go? So
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: you got to say aloud, stretch, stretch.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: That was the.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: Man to come here.
• 26:14
  Speaker 10: Man.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: We had so many good times, Bro, so many good times.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: A couple of things we got to hit before we
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: get into the interview Spring tour. We're rocking. We're going
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: to Texas Tech this week. Next week we are going
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: to Notre Dame in Miami. There could be a couple
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: more schools in the works right now, but the boys
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: are gonna be hitting the road. We'll be doing interviews,
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: will be uh basically immersing ourselves into the team's culture
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: while we're there. Teams are already setting stuff up for us.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: If you want a great look at what that vlog
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: or what that content is going to be. Like the
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: best example to use is Oregon last year. Bro, we go, Yeah,
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: we go, and uh I'm where Oh yeah, yeah, I'm
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: aware you checked it out. I did. We go. When
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: we sit in the meetings, we go and participate in
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: the weight room, like we you know, we get a
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: little fit, can't hang with the young cats anymore. We
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: get involved in the practice field. You saw my one
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: on one on I think we're talking about it after. Yeah,
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: I'm sure you hit me out like your old man
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: talking about anger.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, look like you know the running backs, first
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: route on the line, back in one on one, Like
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: you shouldn't know that you and you've been to leave
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: for a while, Like you shouldn't know what's going to happen.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: The problem was I did know. I even told the
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: fellas before the rep started. I'm like, he's gonna want
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: to beat me in front of all the team. He's
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: gonna want to shake me and get to the inside.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: So I just got to sit low hip inside, say
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: stay thirty not let my base get wide. Base got wide?
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, reaching reach you definitely reach. I think you should
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: just let him go after he beat you. But you
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: when you're reaching, trying to hit him and like slow
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: him up and kind of like, I'll thinking, maybe I
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: can grab his hip. Maybe I can still get back
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: in the game. Maybe I can still get back in
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: the rep. Yeah, but maybe I'll get mine. I'll say, like,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: that's what a nineteen twenty old kid, you thirty thirty plus,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: I like, I'll give you the edge on that. Like
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: you you try, you touch them. Yeah, so that's pretty cool.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Pretty much.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: I am washed. Like that your wash now, I think
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: you still do it, just literally right after Look, we're
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: out there waving the flag. See you look good. You
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: always look the part. I tell you that you always
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: look like a ball player. I appreciate that. Man, you
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: have some good swag. But keep going that right there
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: has no not much and you what are you doing?
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: I'm looking for a flag?
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: Why for what? A flag on you?
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: I forget p I push off. Yeah, look I got dust.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: Look at look at fucking muffin top hips are never
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: that great man.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: You're a Ma Taylor that day, just.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Talking through the pain. Uh where else? Oh yeah, merchandise btw.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: Tv dot com. You got a clean take. You've heard
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: me talk about a couple of clean takes like it's
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: not clean take takes. Yeah, Hey, or as we get
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: into the interview, Hey, shoutout Canvas Food is a clean take.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: Being a homebody.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Shout out Kevin's Natural Food a clean take. Everybody, go
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: watch Harry Potter. I think it's gonna be a good series.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: Clean take, clean everybody in the comments. Clean take by
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: Lavonte Sure and will shout out Form Energy and Kevin
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: Central Foods for the spring tour. Form Energy, Kevin's Natural Foods.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: You ever had Form Energy, No, it's okay. If you
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: have it, we'll get you on it. And and as
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: always for any of the best energy energy drink in
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: the game.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: I've never been that guy.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: You know, you've never been an energy drink guy. Nah,
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: he's just straight water, straight water and go play.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: I took one year. One year, I mean I took
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: a real bull, not a real bull, but a five
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: Our Energy when it was popping. Yeah, and I said,
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: never again five our Energy with the four loco.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: No, never that.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: But one year I took it. After the first quarter,
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: I was dead the rest of the game. And like
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: I was kind of like terrified because I could barely breathe.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: I was extremely tired. I was like, I would never
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: do this again.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: So just dragging ass.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah that's all. Like I would never take an energy
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: drink or nothing like that again. They had to run
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: there for a second. Now this this is clean energy.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: This is from green Tea. Okay, so this is some
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: good stuff, gotch So you like it?
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: You like it? We do have I know you're retired,
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: so looking into your future. We have an internship program
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: that just got announced. We're taking on two production interns,
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: two social interns, a graphics intern. I'm sure we'll have
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: this stuff on the screen and how you can apply
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: put your what you're looking to do with brand in
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: our ecosystem. You're looking to work with in this subject
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: line for the Dad's busting with the boys locker room.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: You got the eyes right now, Mitch inside the bus,
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: inside the bus, inside the bus. But maybe we're bringing
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: a talent intern. Yeah, maybe I can do that. It's
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: a summer internship program. Yeah, be here a couple of months.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: I like my summer, So I don't know, get to
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: work with the best, you can.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Stay be around you. I think that'd be cool. We
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: live the old days, me come to your house and
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: stuff like that.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I took care of you.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: It was okay, it was good at times.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I looked out for you.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: Your spot was my getaway.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, he's speaking facts. He would have
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: stayed focused and straight and narrow. Let's get around some
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: wily unless we got the jungle spoppings. Then it was
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: uh yeah, then we we would have a night talk
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: ball get ready for the season. But it was fun, bro,
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: it was fun. College was fun college.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: I really do think I wish we could have took
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: some trips together though in college, like those break spring
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: breaks and stuff like that, bro moial weekend things like.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I wish we could have did that. But it
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: kind of made us. It kind of made us operate
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: the way we operated, you know what I mean, because
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: I never did, Like we never did the spring break trip.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: Guys would take the bus and going there to Panama City.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: There are some that I had that I look back like, Man,
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: I would show have been a.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: Little I think you mentioned those before, remember, I think so,
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: like when they used to do the boats and stuff
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: down there. Yeah, yeah, I think you did mention that before.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: Side a couple of buddies that did like bats where
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: I got away to, yeah, but none of where it
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: was like get some of some of the Nebraska boys
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: and squat to the lake for the weekend. Yeah, we
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: would do like cookouts and stuff. We did that with
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: the ex crib before xcript. That's like a linebacker. That's
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: like within the team, right, Tim Marlow would put some together.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: He get out in them American speedos, Speedo, we did
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: do that before.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: That's my first time trying to the links sh links.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what do they call it?
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: Brons?
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, those was really really good. In
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: my first time playing corn hole with the god that
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: was pretty cool. Yeah, because we go out to what
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: was it c J. Zimmer's house? Yeah? Was it CJ. Zimmer?
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: I can't remember, but yeah, we had some good times. Man.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: This interview is awesome, fellas anything else that we need
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: to hit before we dive in. This interview with Levonte
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: is awesome against me, Lavontae and Taylor. We're ripping for
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: about two hours. Taylor has to make a flight, Buckie
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: and I kicking for another thirty minutes. We talked Nebraska,
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: we talked career, We talked snubs, we talk everything. I
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: feel like we dive in deep. Buccaneer fans, you're gonna
• 33:37
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• 33:39
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  Speaker 7: Man.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: And I love your the sess you've been having where
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: you like, really enjoy watching you, Bro outside of football.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Your life has a dad as a husband. It's pretty
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: good to see we.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: Dive in the fatherhood.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: Not to shy away from your compliments. I appreciate you.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: I love you, Bro, I love you. There's a lot
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• 34:24
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  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, Like I was telling you before
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: Lavonte got on the bus, like Leavante, as far as
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: surface level accolades, as far as those go, it's not
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: like the deepest list, like if you're going to be
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  Speaker 2: in the woods of Levonte David going to the Hall
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: of Fame. It's all of these details inside the statistics
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: that you would need from which I did last time
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: he came on, which, by the way, you guys could
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  Speaker 2: all check out the episode when we had him on
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: zoom you've been on. What time is this for you
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: coming on the bus?
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: Uh?
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: Total part about four?
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, third or fourth time? Probably about four yeah, because
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: he was in person though, yeah, in person he was.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: We did one on one yeah, one one. I came
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: on here with Leonard I think that's right, that's right.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: I was there for that and then the zoom and
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: so yeah, this would be his fourth a PS. But
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: for that particular episode that you're talking about, like there's
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: it's almost like it's like getting in the gutter of
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: what makes Levonte David great.
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: Well, people say when the casual fan goes, well, lam,
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: he should be in the Hall of Fame. That's the
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: stats you're gonna look at and be like this, No, hey,
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: let me tell you why you're dumb for even saying that. Yes,
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: and then all the stats why he should be in
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: That being said, let's pretend like he wasn't sitting here
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: just talking to a second ago. Please introduce our guest.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: So the guest that we were having on is a
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: very special guests. Future there will be a group, a
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: circle that will be pushing Leavonte David to the Hall
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: of Fame. He played at Miami Northwestern out of high school.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: Predominant an alpha dog in high school football. One of
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: nine thirteen guys that got scholarships at the University of
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: Miami not Levonte David. Levonte David went to JUCO route,
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: went to Fort Scott in Kansas for a couple of years,
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: played Cam Newton in the National Championship. Was one of
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: the best recruits coming out of JUCO. Got offered, picked
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: up by the Nebraska Cornhuskers there a couple of years,
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: number two on the all time leading list and tackles
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: right behind Barret Rude, who played four years at Nebraska.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: Lavonte would have smoked it d he played four years.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: No disrespect to Barrood, he is the king, but kind
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: of disrespect the bear route. Drafted in the second round
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers when everybody thought could this
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: guy Lavonte? He always wanted to play ten years in
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: the NFL. Now fourteen years later, one of the most
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: respected defensive players in the history of the NFL, the
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: most underrated defensive player that will ever play in the NFL.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: Everybody give it up for Leavonte David.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: I know this podcast has been for a minute. We've
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: had this kind of dialed in, like is he retire?
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: If he does, he'll come on then. But for this
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: to get kind of done the last like seventy two
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: hours and you get a flight to come up for
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: you to come up with that, no notes, know nothing incredible,
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: No wait.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: Did you wait till I have the notes? You know
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: last time when I was ripping through when there's one
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: category where it was like, what was it tackles interceptions,
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: tackles for loss. Three players after ray Lewis, Brian or Lacker,
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: and Levonte David. Right like you get into the week,
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: it's a yeah, people are going to be battling for
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: Lavonte David come five years from now. That's an amazing intro. Man.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: I got to give you a lot of credit, a
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: lot of props on that.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: That was great. I appreciate you, bro.
• 39:51
  Speaker 7: Do you.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: Let me ask you? Do you how proud of yourself?
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: Are you? Befo? Before I start talking about how proud
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: everybody else is, I don't, you know me with I
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: don't indulge in that stuff. I don't.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: I don't really think about I'm not a I'm not
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: that much into myself as far as like the accolades
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: and what I've done, you know, when I'm in it.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: But now that I'm actually out of it, I can
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: kind of like sit back and kind of like see
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: and you know, really like understand what I've done, because
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: it's getting thrown at me all.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: Damn day all the day time.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: So it's now it's like I could just sit back
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: and like basking what I've actually done, and it's pretty
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: fucking cool.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: Bro, ain't gonna lie.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: It's pretty cool, Like I can really sit back and say,
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: the years that I played in this league, I was
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: pretty dominant when I played the game, So definitely like
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: pat myself on the bat for that dog, like legitimately.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: I was thinking about it last week and I'm just
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: seeing the timeline of everybody you know, you have your
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: press conference. Yeah, you're seeing any writer, anybody that's known
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: you come out and have this right up like the
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: man you are, the teammate you are, or the teammate
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: you were, Like how how you played the game, all
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: that stuff that you just alluded to to how dominate
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: you are on the field. And I'm like, sit back
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: and I remember I'm driving home last week and I'm
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: just smiling, thinking like, Bro, you did it, like for
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: real did it? Like we're all fired up, like we
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: all played out our dream right, But you sitting there.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: It's like when I was a teammate with you for
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: those couple of years in Nebraska and knowing like we
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: talked about the NFL. I remember asking you, like how
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: long with me? You Zoe Whaley, Shean Fisher, shout out
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: the boys. We're talking about how long we want to
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: play if we got to play in the NFL. You
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: say in ten years, and you're saying it with like
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: this this confidence but no ego, just like this innocence
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: about you of like, oh, I'd love to play like
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: ten years in the NFL, and I know like us
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: and Eck and L's and people just being like, oh,
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: this dude could do it. It just depends on opportunity situation.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: Because you were like an undersized cat for sure, and
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: then you get drafted in the second round and knowing
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: you've played fourteen fucking years, bro at the highest level,
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: and what everybody responding the way they are about you,
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: It's like you're just sitting back knowing like we got
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: to we were in the circle, like we were in
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: those trenches together at college, being like, man, he really
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: was Levante the whole time. Like we'd always joke about you.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: I'll call you like you know Edy, You never you
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: never cared about all the public perception. Ain't that you
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: just wanted to play football? Now you'd have the nappy hair,
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: you have everything that just said like this dude's just
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: all about ball. Yeah, And to know that you played
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: fourteen years seeing the way everybody speaks about you, like, dude,
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: I'm so proud of you. Everybody's so proud of you.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: Husker fans, Tampa Bay fucking loves you. Like, Bro, you're
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: going to have a statue. I'm sure at some point
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like you're cemented in football
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: eternity at Fort Scott, Yeah, at Miami Northwestern, at Nebraska,
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: at Tampa Bay. Whether or not it happens, like everybody's
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: gonna be arguing for you about the Hall of Fame.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: But Bro, you did it, and everybody's so proud of you,
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: and you were you got emotional talking about your parents
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: and oh son Taylor when I was just like, I'm
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: just so fired up for Levonte. I was like, dog,
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: I just remember his dad. Like we were in the
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: hall and I want to say your portrait went up
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: for the All Americans, your sister, You're like everybody was there,
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: Your nephew that you loved, that you were all about,
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: that you protected or looked out for. Your dad was there,
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: and I just remember talking to your dad about I
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: was talking about the things that you were really good at,
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: stuff that like I'm like, these are the areas where
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: I need to prove whether it's tackling in space, cover
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: one on once, like you could do it all and
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: your dad would just say, like, you know, he like
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: pulled me aside. He's like, it's all angles. Like we'd
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: be in the backyard, we'd be working angles, like it's
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: just you know, it's a math problem out there. You're
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: just working on an angle to get there. And I'm
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: sitting there thinking, like just smiling because it's like, yeah, yeah,
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: I'm with you, Like the angle shit is still hard.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: It's still hard to do, but you could just tell
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: he was just so proud of you, and dog, I'm
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: just fired up for.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: You, man, I appreciate you.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: Man. Yeah, that was my guy, my dad talking about
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: my dad. Man.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: He uh one kind of got me started a football after,
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: you know, just watching my cousins play and things like that.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: And that's really true, like really like every time I
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: miss a tackle, we'll come down angle take the proper angle.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: You're not taking a proper.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: Angle, and it's stuck. It's stuck.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: Like that's how like every time I'm in like na
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: playing football, like if I'm in space and stuff like that,
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: I already do think about my angles.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: Let me ask you this did we all of us
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: being in the space of football and kind of like
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: anytime you have an accomplishment individually or as a team,
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: it's like a twenty four hour roll where you're like
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: you sit there and you're like, hey, that was awesome,
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: Look what we did, Look what iic whatever it was,
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: and then as athletes, you're just like, hey, how do
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: I like either replicate that or do better than that.
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: And now you get to the end of the tunnel.
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: You're sitting there, you're doing your press conference, You're getting
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: emotional over your daughter, which I think anybody with a
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: daughter sits there and watches it clearly gets emotional as well.
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: Just watching the clip you leave that it's been like
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: a week, Yeah, what is the first thing that came
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: into your head of like, hey, it's pretty dope that
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: this happened, because there's you, like all the things that
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: will talking about your guys, relationship being in the trenches,
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: Tampa Bay, being cemented in all these other spots, Like
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: what was one of those first things that hit you like,
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: I'm retired and it's so sick that if I didn't
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: do this, or if I didn't accomplish it, maybe it
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: wouldn't have gone the way I wanted or just like
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: some sort of reflection that hey, this is like the
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: first time I'm kind of staring at like this is awesome.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: You know, I am him.
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: I not only I am him, but like, dude, it's
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: like that, like there's tall people, there's there's a lot
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: of people, there are strong people. Is like everyone's god,
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: there's white people. But yeah, exactly, like everyone has like
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: certain attributes that can get them to the place that
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: we've all been able to, like be grateful enough to
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: get to, right but very rarely is it? Is it
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: you know, getting there, sustaining a career and then having
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: the career that you did, and so yeah, dude, like
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: you you fucking you did it. And so like what
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: was like one of those first things you sit back
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: after the press conference, You're like, I can't believe I
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: did this.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: Ship. Oh man, bro, I could take you back to
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: Juco to be honest, like after everything, and it like
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: I tested my Juco coach told them, like, you know,
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: I don't have a great relationship with my Juco coach.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: I you know the story about me and Juco and stuff.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: Like that, and you know, I just kind of sit
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: back and think like damn, Like I went through a
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: lot in Juco, and it's been times while I quit
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: when I was in Juco and because of the stuff
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: that we was going through. But like as it all
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: on fold and everything plays out, the stuff that I
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: went through in Juco, I feel like Cole hardly got
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: me to one mat right now today, just because like
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: the discipline, the drive, the determination and just hearing my
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: coach all the time cursing me out and stuff like that.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: I think that's what really drove me to Like it
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: was in a sense of like trying to prove to
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: him that I'm a bad motherfucker on the field and
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: stuff like that. And then like just like the story,
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: like when we had done we did a conditioning test
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: and I'm on the ground crawling, he called me all
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: type of names, calling me soft and this and that,
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: and at the time, you know, I'm pissed about it obviously,
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: but like that right there really like drove me to
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: like literally like just be the best every time I'm
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: out there on the field because this one dude called
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: me a soft mf and like and it's like that
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: kind of like stuck me the whole But in the day,
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: Like I really appreciate him for like man, coach Jeff SAMs,
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: like he was on the Last Chance you if you
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: guys watch it. He's one of those hard tough coaches,
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: and like I told him, man, like great, I really
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: appreciate you. Man, you you you got something out of
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: me that I never thought I had. Ay in a
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: sense because like playing that moment, all Western, you know,
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: we was always praised, We was always hyped up and
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: stuff like that. Never really got yelled at as a
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: as a player and stuff like that because I was
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: always you know, a good I guess I would say.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: But that moment right there kind of like told me
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: like no, like nah, this is something like you gotta
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: you gotta pick you pick your sh up and like
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: go bro, like you gotta you.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: Got nothing else, just just to prove his coach.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: In a sense, I don't want to say that, but
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: in a sense, it was like that we've.
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: All got we've all got situations where it's like one
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: guy said one thing and it might have just been
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: another day to him, but like that was the one
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: thing that's like, oh, ten years from now, you don't
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: realize I was dumb.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: Right from that moment right there.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: But it was all coming from like a good place,
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: you know, if you know, if you get a chance
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: to know him, like he does that to all, like
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: almost all his players. But I just took it personal
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: just because, like I guess I wanted to take it personally,
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: Like I didn't want to be there in the first place.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: Like I was jealous obviously because all my boys went
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: to big schools. I felt like I was good enough
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: to go to a big school and I'm here, stuck
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: out of Juco, and you know, like just being there
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: and just going through that and just kind of like.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: Drove me to a different level of all the things
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: that It's like what was like a reflective moment after
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: you're retiring everything else, like all the things you accomplished
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: and what goes into Levante's I proved that motherfucker, yeah,
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: which I feel like is like one of the bestities
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: you can have.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: But the thing is, like, bro, he's one of my
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: biggest fans, you know what I'm saying, Like he's one
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: of my biggest fans. Like I got a lot of
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: respect for jeff sones Man. He's definitely a respectable guy,
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: and like I was one of the leaders on that team.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: It's like he just drove me out of my comfort zone.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: And me being an eighteen year old, ninety ye old kid,
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: I didn't, you know, my first time out of Miami,
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: Like I didn't you know, I was one of the
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: you know, the best players on the team.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: Like and it's just like he just drove me.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: To a different level. And that just stuck with me throughout,
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Obviously, as I got older,
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: I went through college and stuff like that, I learned
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: different things, but that kind of was like one of
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: the most driving forces that wanted me to like get
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: out there and be able to make it.
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: What were some of the ship that you were going
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: through in Juco? Because I get it, like he woke
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: up something in you that you kind of took personal.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: There are a multitude of ways of like coaching and
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: getting the most other guys without just being a straight
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: up asshole. Yeah, but like, what were some of the
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: stuff or the ship that you was going through in Juco?
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: Are you in the you know BK went there? She
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: went there?
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Stanley, Stanley, Uh, it just bro Like the food
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: the food wasn't wasn't good, Like barely eight.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: Uh, the town was small, you know, it was probably
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: like three four maybe four restaurants and things like that.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: And then just the main thing was just like the
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: whole rule, the main rule in Juco. It was like
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: at the time, you can have twelve out of state
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: players on the roster and I didn't notice, and they
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: bring lan like fifty plus players from out of state,
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: so I got to compete and battle with all these guys.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: And then like somebody training and stuff like that. It
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: used to be like a little rodeo arena in there.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: So sometimes he's going there, I have to wrestle guys
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: in your position, group of things like that, and.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you had they just open the.
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: Gates and two guys in, like everyone comes out. It's
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: got to spot the team.
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: It was very much food.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: I just had us like in this room, man, the
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: wrestle it was. It was brutal Bro's It's a bunch
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: of stories, man, but it is definitely.
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: What's the craziest, bro the craziest Now that you're out
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: of it, like are we talking? You got me thinking
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: it's like dark Knight, where yours is stick? He's like,
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: all right, what of you guys are gonna walk out
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: of the joker bro.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: I remember one time, Uh, we're in spring and we
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: had we were doing condition in the spring. We have
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: to run five miles like we just thinking it was
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: regular conditioning, right, the whole team running and we had
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: to run five miles. It's like this little lake or whatever,
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: and uh, you know, we get to the lake and
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: we're like, okay, we were here and we think everybody's
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: just gonna you know, get a ride back or we're
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: gonna find our way back.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: And we get there.
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: He give a little speech and it was like, okay,
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: now here we go. I'm gonna point out each guy.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: You got to battle a certain guy, you got to
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: wrestle a certain guy, and that guy gets to ride back.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: So like what the five miles, Yeah, ran five miles.
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: Everybody gets it. He gives a speech, all right, now
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: we're gonna.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: Go one on one, one on one and wins get
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: a ride back on the truck.
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: No ship. Yes, yes, here there's one kid that team
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: that was like a state wrestler. Yeah it is.
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: And I remember this guy forget his last name of
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: the Centez. He played safety for us and he was
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: a wrestler, and you could tell like he was ready
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: for it, and he plays it and he ended up winning,
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: and he ended up getting.
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: That ride back, and uh, did I win? To my group?
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: Did I win? I don't know? And it was kind
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: of weird because like you going against dudes who like
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: you're really like you tight with your homeboys. You know,
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: he didn't win.
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: You know, he's telling this story if he would have won,
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: he but he knew I.
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: Got that right back.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe I did win. I mean I hit
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: up coach slings accent, but I think I think I
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: did win. Bro, It's just so much stuff.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: What happened to the guys who didn't win, They had
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: to walk back to walk back. We'll meet youell Becca
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: at uh uh at the facility. You remember that walk? Yeah, Bro,
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: I'm just thinking about some of these the stories that
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: you'd hear in JUCO and stuff that people are like
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: you know that ship that like that stuff like that's
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: found out in real time right now, Like that's yeah,
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: so viral. Even the last chance you you'd watch it
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: like Jesus Christ, like somebody had their phone out when
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: when coaches giving the speech when they're at the lake
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: five miles and this with this motherfucker.
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: Right exactly, soon's on line, Yeah, exactly. That would be
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: absolutely nuts. Was that when you first got there, Uh,
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: this is my second year there, second year there that spring,
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: that spring, so you kind of understood what the expectation
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: was at that point, you knew what the coaches were
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: going to do.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of like had a good freshman year
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: and I became like a murdered as the leader or whatever.
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: And then like from then point that point on is
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: like all eyes on me, like what I'm what I'm doing,
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: what you doing and stuff like that. So it's like
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: I was expected to win, like I was expected to
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: do certain things, and you know, coach Sam's pushed me
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: that way.
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: So I got a lot of respect for that.
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: How do you feel when a coach and a team
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: has that expectation on you? Because clearly playing fourteen fifteen years,
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: fourteen years in the league, got.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: Fifteen yeah, fifteen all time tackles, right, you can just
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: go get one more game.
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: But when you're young, yeah, and whatever happens in high
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: school that makes you have to go to the juwe
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: co route and you're kind of being thrust into a
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: position because you came from a high school I had
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: a lot of great players, or it's like this is
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: the guy everyone needs to watch. The expectation is on him,
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: the coaches expected, and the players are Now there's players
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: that are watching it admiring you, but there's also players
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: that are watching and be like, man, fuck LaMonte, I
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: am just as good as him. Which is always that
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: like you know, the was it the thief of joyous comparison?
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: Comparison and so like when you're going through that, which
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: essentially is like the first time, what is it like
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: for you going into your second year with all those
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: expectations on you? Was that level of anxiety or you're
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: like ready to answer the bell? You knew this was
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: like I just need to get through this period of
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: my life so I can get to essentially Nebraska.
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: Honestly, bro I was.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: I needed to get through it. So it's like one
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: of those like I need to do whatever it takes
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: to get through it.
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: Like I remember when.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: Because because the success I had my freshman year, I
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: knew it was going to be a lot of like
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: knowing Coche Sims and the staff that he put together,
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: I knew it was going to be a lot on me.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: So I remember like going through that summer, that first summer,
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: and I was crawling, you know, ball in my eyes
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: out could have finish the condition test. Like the first
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: thing I did as soon as I got home doing
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: the break was just ran.
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: It was a block.
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: I stayed on the other street, So I ran the
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: block like five miles every day, Like I ran not
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: five mouths, but I ran around the block maybe like
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: four times every day. And you know, my homeboys could
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: have tested this, like I was running just so I
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: wouldn't go through that no more. And you know, when
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: I got back that summer to do the same tests,
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: like it was kind of like Sims looking at me like, okay,
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: let's see what he got now. Unlet's see he went
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: home and did what he's supposed to do to you know,
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: kind of like kick this test ass, And bro, I
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: did exactly that.
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: I was coming in first on everyone. I was, you know,
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: killing it.
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: And like mind you, as a freshman, you couldn't drink
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: water while you're doing the test. So this time I
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: was able to get my So this time I was
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: able to get my water bottomed, me able to you
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: know kill a test. And like from that point on,
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: he kind of like knew that I was like really
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: dedicated and focused, so he kind of like put that
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: leader role on me, and like I kind of like,
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: I feel like I handled it well because just because
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: like I wanted to get I wanted to get in
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: and get out of it. I didn't want to you know,
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: hear his nagging, hear his bugging. You know, just be
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: a great leader, like make sure everybody doing this is
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: supposed to do, to be able to just you know,
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: get the fun going from me.
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: It's almost at that point I gotta do. I gotta
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: do what I'm expected to do so I don't have
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: to hear any noise from you. Yeah, at that point
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: of which essentially is just breeding into a better leader
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: exactly exactly.
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: But it feels like you're just in prison. You're just like,
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: I gotta get the sounds like prison. Here we go, fellas,
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: get ride. He's in holes. Yeah, Hey, we got our
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: condition to test freshmen. If you're a freshman, you get
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: no water, like giving everybody the hands up before just
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: to go to Nebraska and what you failed the beep test? Right,
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I did feel that's crazy. Failed to beat
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: test so fun too, like the the brain firing on
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: this episode right now. We talked about this on the
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: when we were on Zoom last time.
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, oh no, we didn't talk to them this
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: much depth because I'm just trying to really like I'm
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: trying to reflect.
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's trying to reflect and have fun, like because
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: I failed that ship too? Did you really? You said
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: that on the Zoom.
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: I didn't know what the test was. I didn't know
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: what to expect. I just thought, like beep, just go
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: take off. I didn't know it was a strategy behind it.
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: Like once I'm doing it, like I'm looking back at guys,
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: I'm like, what they jogging? Like I gotta, you know,
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: get coming from Juco, what I went through. I'm like,
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: I got to kill this. But that's not the That's
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: not the great strategy. When you running the beat test.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: You got to start off slow, have a good pace,
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: and you know, I kind of like overthought it and
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: you know, the next day I had to do it
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: again and should I killed at that time?
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: So I was good.
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: It's that anxiety though, when you don't do well on
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: a test and you have to do it again, or
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: when you do a test the first time, you know,
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: it was just it was a motherfucker. When we would
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: do three hundred tests at Michigan. Yeah, like I knew
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: I would pass the test. But the day we're doing
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: the test, like that morning, you're like this to yourself,
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: three hundred hutles with rich Rodriguez, we would do twenty.
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: Five and back, which killed, which is murder? You do
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: two of those.
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: So then when we had because I was Mike Barrows
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: and then it was Aaron Wellman and we would have
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: the test, but it'd be sixty and back. Yeah, so
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: it'd be down, back, down, back down. That's how was
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: it In my head. I was like down, back down,
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: back down. That last three is easy because you say
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: it faster, yeah, And that's like how the like my
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: brain would like process it, like down back, that's the
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: hardest part.
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: That down. It's way faster. But like the it would
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: be like they would.
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: Give you a longer break, like a two and a
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: half minute rest, and you would think to yourself like, oh,
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: I'm my lungs feel great, but that lad, that's second
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: three hundred. Your legs because of the break, your legs.
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: Are just dying. Dads are falling out and then I
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: had this.
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: I mean, it clearly was ego, but like, I am
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: not going to let these guys know that, Like my
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: leg's hurt, and I would walk over to guys Andre,
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: like what the fuck are you doing? Gets you stand
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: up like all the things. But in my brain, I'm like,
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: I would do anything to lay down right now.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: I remember I did that one time. My boys had
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: it in the league. They had it for their condition
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: tests in the league, and I just did it with them,
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: just to do it, and they was doing fifty in
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: back and I'm like, bro, this is John Gott, Bro,
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: this is crazy.
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Bro. Some of the conditioning tests out there a while,
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: like we would have it either be three three hundreds
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: or six one fifties on the shuttles, and like this
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: would just be in the part of our workout program
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: and then you know, you know when you have like
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: the four hour window in OTAs when you're in kind
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: of phase one. But we would do all of our
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: stuff on the field. We do our field work, then
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: do conditioning where let's just say it was the six
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: one fifties, you do six one fifties with twenty five
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: yard back increments used in the NFL. Yeah, you Washington
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: bro our first strength coach was a psychopath. And then
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: they called it, they coined it. They made this up,
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: like now that I've talked with like all the boys
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: back in Washington, like this was made up, but they
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: called it Russian volume training, to where say we do
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: all of our on field workouts, we do our conditioning
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: of like the six one fifties would be the conditioning
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: or three three hundred yard shuttles, and then you know
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: how you have that window of like twenty to thirty
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: minutes to go back in the locker room, pound of shake,
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: do whatever, and then you're in the weight room to
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: do weight room stuff. And then right after that we'd
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: have like a Russian volume training day to where you're
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: squatting it it'd be like twelve sets of twelve ten eight,
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: then you go back up to ten, down to eight,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: down to six six sex six sets of squats like
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: volume training. Yeah, and where you're you're not like when
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: you we came from Nebraskat like Dobson, you had everything
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: kind of mapped out like one r M was a coach,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: everything mapped out to where there's a there's a science,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: there's a goal for everything that you're doing with. When
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: I was in Washington my first year, there was no
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: there was no, none of that. You basically just get
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: on the rack that has three fifteen or work out
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: on the rack that has two twenty five, and then
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: you know a few of the boys would add whatever
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: you want to add. So you're just in there fucking dying. Bro.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: First year, I got like tenanitis in both knees at
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: achilles tenanitis. Later in the year, I bet like we
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: would and on practice squad we'd have saturdays where you
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: go in early in the morning. Yeah, early in the morning, bro,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: and we'd be having to push heavy ass sleds carrying
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: stuff over our head, like row the boat type shit.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: It was brutal. Our conditioning tests for that particular strength coach,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: I won't out his name, but look it up. Our
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: conditioning test was, uh, it's like ten to twelve full gassers,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: and in between each gas you'd have a minute rest,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: but forty five seconds of the minute rest you'd have
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: to plank. So you run the gas and then you
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: get on the sideline, You get down on a plank
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: position for forty five seconds. Then he lets you know
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: when it's fifteen seconds up, you stand up and get
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: ready to run a gaser again. I'll be in Missouri
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: with my brother Wyatt. Why it would be timing me
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: because I was so stressed about this fucking conditioning test.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking, this is it. You don't, I mean you
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: guys know you don't make the conditioning tests like they'll
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: weed you out right.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: For sure, especially in college when you first shart to college,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: like that winter conditioning that's just hey, all the new
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: introductory guys that came in for winter, like the freshman,
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: they're going to find out who really wants it and
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: then happen to just be a straight that's taking place
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: as well. You're like a junior, like what the fuck
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: is happening?
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: Or there'd be like three fifteen are there'll be all
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: these plates on the prowler and we get in and
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: this is a Saturday morning one for the pea squad guys.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: You start in the end zone. You go all the
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: way down the goal line like the hash line of
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: the all the way from one side line to the other,
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: and you'd do a snake, so every five yards you
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: had to like take a plateoff and you're pushing the
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: prowler all the way till you get to the fifty
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: yard line and then you like lighten something or do
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: something where you come back, and it was this is
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: the league, this is the league, but that's just crazy.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: One Saturday morning was called fourteen different ways to pass
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: out and it'd be stuff with with the belt on
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: you to where you're doing the little the weight behind
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: you where you're running or you're back pedaling, or you're
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: lunging with one hundred and thirty five pounds bar pushing
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: the prowler, like you get the one hundred and thirty
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: five pound bar after you, like you did lunches all
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: the way fifty yards, sit on the ground. You have
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: a little bit of rest, but then you have to
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: situate yourself to do floor press. And we're on the
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: astro turf, but get it up on you. You're doing
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: floor press for an amount fourteen different ways to pass out?
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: Was that harder than Nebraska? Yes? To me?
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: That was still telling me like legit, Like I remember
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: that in college, like those insane over the top like
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: like a mission we would do winter like during our
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: winter conditioning when we just came back from winter break
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: or the bowl game or whatever. We'd have the five
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: ams and you'd walk outside and the anxiety of the
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: whole team would take place because there'd be cones in
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: there that have like stations, and there'd be cones in
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: one area and you don't know exactly, like you see
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: a bunch of cones, you don't know exactly what you're doing.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: Then there'd be like mats, which is a towel and
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: tape around it, and another mat with the tires, and
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: you would literally go and they're like you and I
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: would lay next to each other and we would both
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: hold the towel and it's like they're gonna blow the whistle,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: and whoever comes up with the towels the winner. I
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: remember being a freshman and like we were on the side.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: There was like a Red Shir junior. He was a
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: man all right. I'm like, I'm eighteen years old, fresh eighteen.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: This kid's twenty one, twenty two. He can legally drink,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: he can serve our country, he can do all things.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: And we go on the mat.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: He comes up, he picks me up and elbows me
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: in the temple and I woke up later and then
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: Tanner's like, yeah, you got you were knocked out multiple guys.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: What you say purpose, I don't know.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: I really don't know, but I do know that like
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: that winter conditioning was, you just be dead after.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: It, bro, what's your knockout? Knockout number three? Four four?
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: I personally, I feel like because with Dobson, yeah, like
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: we have you, whether it's called County fair GPP, like,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: there'd be those days for sure. But I feel like
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: in the NFL, the like science and structure behind it
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: was there was no real science behind it versus just
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: like killing the guys like in college. I feel like
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: there is a method of that madness with having those
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: hard days, especially in the winter time, because we wouldn't
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: condition with Dobson throughout winter training. We start conditioning with
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: the coaches and stuff, right, yeah, yeah, we do, like
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: drills like football drills with coaches, but as far as
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: like quarters, all the conditioning stuff that was mainly the
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: summertime where you ramp up, there would always be again,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: there would always be a goal to something, Whereas when
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: I'm experiencing this for my first year in the NFL,
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: I'm like, Yo, this is different shit bro right, trying
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: to scare you out of it and and you know
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: this is stupid, you know what I mean. I'm with you,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: like as somebody who goes through a program like you
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: have somewhere with all like okay, you're gonna get you
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: go from college to the NFL, We're gonna get even
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: better trainers, we're gonna get even better strength conditioning program.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: Then you find out fairly quickly like it ain't like
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: that at all. No, not all strength coaches are created equal.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, any rookie year, Yeah, my rookie year was
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: in a sense like we had a new head coach
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: coming in. It was like we kind of like our
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: rookie class was kind of like test dummies in a sense,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: like you had that yeah, yeah, so like our rookie
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: class was kind of like a test dummy in a sense.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: So it's like like it just felt like I were
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: from college and like continue on my college career when
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: we came in and like the things that we did,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: like this, when I first ran the three hundred y'all shutle,
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: everybody failed, which was it was crazy. And then I
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: remember we had to do gashers, did gassers, and then
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: at the end we had to get a forty five
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: pound plate and push them like push them across the
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: field like solid plate pushing and stuff like that. And
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: then it was in that same little area we had
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: to do lunges across, like we would push it to
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: the HASH. Then we get the Barbelle and we got
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: to do lunges across to the other HASH and bro
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: Like when I say brutal like those stuff, but it's
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: like I'm coming straight out, so it's kind of like
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: it felt like, Okay, this was the league was supposed
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: to be, you know what I'm saying. Like I would say,
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: partly like my until until BA got there, until BA
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: got to the books, I would say, like, that's the
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: first time I really felt like it was an NFL vibe,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean?
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: Like from what I heard said when BA came back
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: with BA, you felt like it was a real NFL vibe.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like that's in a sense like when I were
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: all the stories used to hear about how it used
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: to be, like how Prass used to be and how
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: things used to be and stuff like that. That's when
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: I felt like when people was telling me those stories
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: like oh, this how it's supposed.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: To be in the league.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I remember like people used
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: to come to our team. They're like, bro, I hope
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: you go to somewhere else, but you will get a
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: chance to feel like how it is to be in
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: the NFL for locker room and NFL team and stuff
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: like that. I'm like, and then I essentially got that
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: film when BA came.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: Yeahn't that crazy.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: Same people tell me that the Titans sue my first
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: few years, They'll be like, man, if you just go
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: somewhere else, Yeah, it's the real NFL, right right right?
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: This is this is this is the NFL because the
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: experiences Rooki year. I remember going to my rookiear so
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: stressed out about rookie mining camp and all that stuff,
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: and then we get to them like this is the
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: easiest thing ever. Like we would do conditioning and like
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: during Ota is like that Thursday, Steve Waterson, we played
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: like ultimate football where we're like we would draft teams
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: and then we would just like, yeah, we'd have a blast.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: You'd be like obviously tired after like you've got conditioning, right,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 3: But I was like, the NFL kind of fucks. And
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: then you go too and fourteen years maybe we should
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: maybe we should have left more.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: Maybe we're doing the wrong because.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: Everyone's like I remember being on my rookie year in
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: the mediately like anything, this team is gonna be this year,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: and I think we're gonna be great, and I literally
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: have no idea, but looking back like we were going
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: to suck. Always never had a chance with a team
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: at all. Fourteen season too, and fourteen my first year,
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: three and thirteen my second year, and I called, uh,
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: the tackle before me, Michael Ruse, and I was like, dude,
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: how did you do this for ten years? Yeah?
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: This is miserable.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: I want to be done now. It's like it gets better.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: You just got to win the nixt year we went
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 3: nine and seven, and I was like, well I thought
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: I won the super Bowl. I was like, the fucking
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: NFL is the best. So that's why I really started
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: to enjoy it. But you're when I'm listening to you
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: talk about like lifting and coaches and like programs, you're
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: and eyes brain are similar, Like the coach is going
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: to tell you what to do and you're not. You're
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: just gonna go do those things. This dude's bring everything
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: is like, what is the method that's the process in
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: which why am I isolating the glutes here I'm doing
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: uh because Dobson obviously I trained with him for a
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: couple of years, right, and they're like Rex was into
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: the French eccentric work and Will would Will would essentially
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: break down the things for me. And I'm thinking to myself,
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: like you just felt the weight on the.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: Bar, Like, what do we do?
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 3: We're doing GPP today. It sounds like I'm gonna die today.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna earn a burger after this because I was
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: like about like I was always in the camp of
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: if you just die in.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: The off season, you'll be fine. See, you'll be fine.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: So all the methods and we got a ramp up,
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: like dude, just kill me. It's gonna be born again. Yeah,
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: that's what I want every single year. Yeah, because we
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: do the GPP.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: And I think my biggest claim to fame was beating
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: Dobson's ass because.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: We would do the GPP, which I hated, always argued
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: against Will. Look, he would always try to find a
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: way to get out of it, and I'm like, bro,
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: or this is it. Yeah.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: If you're thinking about I had one year GPP, so
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: I only had one spring Nebraska, so I only did
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: it one time, so.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was, but we were doing the GPP, Dobson's GPP,
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: not like the team, not like when dobb would have
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: the guys out doing GPP because that's quarters, right, you
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: do quarters. But they also had the one where it
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: was like, I forget generally, uh, general physical preparation is
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: the GPP, but he had something remember when you like
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: you'd sprint, but then there would also be a prowler station.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: There'd also be a polling station. That was my felt
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: because we did that with Van.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 4: We did that.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: There was that one kid that was mouthing off yeah,
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: and so you're running next to him, but they were
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: like quarters, yeah, yeah, there's also quarters involved. That's why
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: you do striders. You do twenty yard get outs like
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: you do all this where we did it with the team,
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: but we would also do GPP with dobs and like
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: Docs would just come up with whatever his workout is
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: that take him like an hour. So I never want
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: to do anything over like twenty five minutes.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: That's just way too you know when like when the
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: strint coaches throw stuff at you and you're like, damn,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: they just throwing stuff at it, just throw throw stuff
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: at us. But Dabby, they actually you should do it
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: themselves before they actually had us do it. So that's
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: what I really like respected about those guys. So like
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: so my mom like, shit, if they did it, you know,
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: I know I can do it right.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: Stuff.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: It's all about yeah, because it's all the football. It's
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 3: all like ego posturing. There's that level of it that
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: takes price. There's a great coature for sure. For listeners
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: that don't know what GPP is, what is GPP. GPP
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: is general physical preparation. It's foundational training designed to improve
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: overall work capacity, strength, endurance, flexibility, preparing the body for
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: more intense specific training.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: That's exactly what I felt.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: There was one coach that I know did when you
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: said that they would try run the GP. Yeah, there
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: was one coach. I forget who it was, but remember
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: he was puking and shipping at the same time in
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: the bathroom. They was all laughing about it. They was
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: just they was dying over the fact that I'm drawing
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: a blank on who it was. But apparently he was
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: in the stall afterwards puking and shipping at the same time.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: The coach, yeah, was on the stat No Dobson would
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: never Yeah, just got the bucket, heead on it, He'll
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: just he used to kill it.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: Dobby used to kill it because it was one time
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: we walked down that early and I saw him doing it. Yeah,
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: because we're trying to get I remember that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: but I don't know exactly who it was. Yeah, that's
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: going to drive me crazy.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: What was it? Wait, Waite never did it? Had Wade
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: in Tampa? Yeah, Wade never did. What was it like
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: with Sheiano? That effort? Now, No, you went through how
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: many head coaches?
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 4: Five?
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: Six take coaches? You know, love you, Dirk five Shano,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: Lovey and Dirk? Like, what do you think about when
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: you look back at those tenures with.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: Them, respectable guys? I would say, for sure, I learned.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: I learned a lot of football with you. I'll tell
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: you that Sheeano was one of those detail oriented coaches
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: and like you know, and I had to be on
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: point just because like coming in as a rookie, I
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: didn't find out I had the green dot. I was
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: going to be the mic uh whining the green dot
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: until the Saturday before our first game, So you know,
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: obviously I had to be very detailed and stuff like
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: that I really had to understand things like that. So
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: I learned a lot of football with you know, and
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: you know, I remember like every time team used to
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: come out into certain formations and stuff like that, we
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: used to check to certain things to you know stop.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: That's why I kind of like understood like uh, personnel
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: and stuff like that. That's why I really tried to
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: start to understand that. And then you know, getting Lovey.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: Going from on to Lovey, you know, Lovey was a
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: as a as far as a coach, you know, pretty
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: like standard, your standard coach. But like his defense, you know,
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: what he ran was just you know, basic cover two
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: all the time and things like that, and it was
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: more so like player led type thing, wherehereas she was
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: more so like his way or the highway type thing.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: And then Lovey was kind of in the sense the
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: same way, but you had just certain leaders to kind
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: of like control the team and things like that. But
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: as far as personalities though, those who was just night
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: and day. You know, Lovey didn't curse. Levey was you know,
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: uh uh, you know, more so chill, level headed guy,
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: where Sean know he's you know, fiery and things like that.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: And then going from two defensive coaches to a officies coach.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: With Dirk, you know, Dirk we had a great relationship.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: He was cool, but he was more you know, offensive, uh,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: you know, orientated, you know, so so I can't I
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: didn't really have that day to day thing with him
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: as much. But then going from those three guys and
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: then going to b A, it was like, damn, like
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: you know, Ba was just a dude, a guys guy.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like, what do you feel
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: like BA was so good at the the other ones?
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: Not that they weren't good at And what do you
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: feel like BA brought that you hadn't seen from the
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: other ones?
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: Tom, I think I would say with b A it
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: was like Ba was more so like a player's coach,
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like this like his first
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: met was like this is your team. You know, this
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: is you guys team, everything that you know, the success
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: that we have is going to be based on you guys,
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: whereas the other guys is just like more so like nah,
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: it's gonna do it my way and you this is
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: how we're going to win. But Ba was like it
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: was just more so like you know, this is your team.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: You know, whatever opinions you got, whatever ideas you got
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: running by me and we could you know, make it work.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: And you know that's when I say it felt like
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: I was in the NFL. It was like BA had
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: an open door policy. Whatever you want to talk about,
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: you talk about it, like if the players have a
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: problem with some we have a little you know, a
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: little power wow and talk about it and you know,
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: get get everything changed. And you know that's why, you know,
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: felt the most from BA. Man like and he was
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: like like a real like you know, role model in
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: the sense you know what I'm saying, Like he was
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: a guy who you could go to for advice about anything.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: He had all that football knowledge. BA coached for like
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: so many years and you know he played in the
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl. He not played, but he coached in the
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl and things like that. He won Coach of
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: the Year when he was at the coach that one time.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: So you know, he just had a lot of football
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: knowledge and that he just was like very open man.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: Just it was just something that I wasn't used to,
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: you know, being there for those first you know, eight years,
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: and he was just more so like really like a
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: player's coach, and that's what I like. He kind of
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: reminded me of you know, Bo in a sense. You know,
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: you know how like Bowl was like open with us
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: and you know, kind of get ideas and things like that,
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: and you know, always joking around us and things like that,
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: but when it came to football, he held you to
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: a certain standard. And that's what I really respect about them.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 3: Can you guys both explain to me a little bit
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 3: more about Bo Polini because I hear I mean, clearly,
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 3: I have a Nebraska sicko. That's system my right every
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 3: single week. But like you hear the stories about bow
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: and I'm hearing players coach, but I also hear him
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 3: about fuck the rafts he's done. He like, there's a
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: lot of stuff that happened with the fan base and
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: all these things, but you guys love them. Yeah, So
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 3: he explain Bo Polini to me in a nutshell They
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 3: know what, don't nutshell? There's a long form podcast.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Bo, obviously what people see he had
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: a screw loose, like Dan Hurley. That clip's going around
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: him kind of just getting like going ahead. Yeah, Like
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: when I see that clip, I'm like, oh, that's he's
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: got some pollinium. Bo just had that fire. But I
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: think with coach Bow, you just knew that he fucking
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: cared a lot, Like you know what I mean, he
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: never cared about the politics game. Now. It's like when
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: I look back on Bow as a head coach at Nebraska,
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: some things that he didn't do well that you kind
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: of need to do as a head coach is when
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: you're like connecting with the fan base, connecting with boosters,
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: going to all the dinners, like doing the like a
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: political game you have to play.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 3: Was truly just ball.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Bo just love fucking ball, and you knew he'd
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: die for you and everybody kind of felt that even
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: though he was hard on us, like he held this
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: the standard was always a standard, But the dude was
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: just always about process. He was about going to class.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: He was a you're gonna have your shirt tuck there,
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: and you're gonna do all these little things, but there's
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: a he would always explain why he's doing to where
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: you always just kind of knew that, Like looking back
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: on all the head coaches I have, like having him
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: as our as our college football coach, you just felt
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: like he went about ship the right way. You kind
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: of look back and you're like, damn, there there was
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: a He always had like a method in the standard
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: laid out for everything. So when he was losing his
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: mind or he was doing all this stuff, like yeah,
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: he kind of black out during the games and go
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: off on you, but you always knew that it was
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: coming from the right place. And it's like this right here,
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: he definded.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: It's like I look at it like he definding us,
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like he's cursing people out
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: and stuff like that, but it's on our behalf, like
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: like you know, take an eye side to you to
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: have an eye back at things, and and like it
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: showed you know what I'm saying. Even like outside of football,
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: you know where he used to holler ass you talk
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: to you, said what was up with you? You know,
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: just you know, actually about your family and things like that.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: So like most coaches, you know, when you come in
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: and be like okay, you're like that's it, Like you
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: don't really hear from him from stuff like that. But yeah,
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: with bow Man, it was it was bearer than that.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: You know, I got a lot of respect for both.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: It was like a coach. Bar I remember one time
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: because he'd lose his shit over people missing class, Yeah,
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: team mates, and he called people out there stand up.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: He kind of embarrass them. But I remember like going
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: into the facility one day and I was like walking
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: next to him, you know, he had kind of that
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: fear of the anxiety and like every head coach happened, Yeah,
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: and I kind of mess with him, like why you
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: always get so worked up over class? And I'm kind
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: of like laughing, but he kind of joked, but he
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: stopped and he like turned around and had a conversation
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: with me, and he was just like, look, man, you
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: don't just show up on Saturdays. Like you're either all
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: the time person or you're none of the time person.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: There is no some times like if I have to
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: hold your hand to go to class. When I'm here,
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: we're here to coach and win football games. He's like,
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: it's never about the result. It's not about He's like,
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: when's the loss? Do we want? Yes, we want them,
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: But in my brain, if you go about the process
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: the right way, the wind, calumn and everything else will
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: take care of itself if you focus and dive into
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: the little things and so to me if I feel
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: like I have to babysit you guys to go to class,
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: like I'm doing a disservice for everybody that's in the room.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: And he was like, and when I know that everybody's
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: going to class and doing the right thing, I know
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: that we're going to get the most out of practice
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: that day. I just remember it kind of being like
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: an aha moment. I was like, Okay, he's not just
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: some sick of the kid class Like he's like, there's
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: like thought behind it, there's the why, Like there's all
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: that stuff to where he always had it. You kept
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: that to you, So that's something good to know.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, is that something that like your perspective above,
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 3: both of the all perspective above, would the majority of
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 3: the people that played with you guys when they have
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 3: the same perspective of him as well?
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: I think I would.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: I would say so. And it's some people that he
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: was really really hard on who may think otherwise, but
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: you know, just outside looking in man, just understanding the
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: process of what he was trying to do, what he
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: was trying to get out. You like what he said,
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: like that that that means a lot, Like I didn't
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: know that. Like he said that, I'm like, yeah, damn,
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: Like that mean he really cared about you know what
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: I'm saying.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: When he's breaking it down, you're kind of like, yeah,
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: he is right, Like when he was so like he
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: might have done it on the when he was with
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: us on the bus, but he was super hard on
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: me for a lot of different points. And when on
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: the part he was saying like, I knew I could
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: be hard on you because you would take the coaching,
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: and I'm thinking like, yeah, I mean I would internalize it.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: But he'd keep me up at night because I'm thinking
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: I'm kind of failing or like letting you down. But
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: he'd be like, if I knew if I could be
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: hard on you in front of other guys and other
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: guys saw you being receptive to it, it would help
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: me coach other guys a certain way. And I'm thinking
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: to myself, Man, if I would have just known that,
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: I would have I would have slept these here now.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: But it's like, unless you go and have a conversation
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: with him about it, I guess you can kind of
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: build up your own assumption on like, man, why is
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: he being such an asshole?
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: And that's what a lot of guys like kind of
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: shy away from, like even today, like when guys like
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: get yelled and yeah about by coaching stuff like that,
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: some dudes kind of like shy away and like this
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: coach don't mess with me, man, and it's run away
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: from him and stuff. Take personal, yeah, taking the person
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: instead of going up there having a conversation.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: Okay, yelling at me. What do you see that I'm
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: not doing right? You know what I'm saying.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: And I feel like if guys do that more often,
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: I think they have a better perception of their coach
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: and things like that, because like I honestly feel like
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: there's no coach.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: Out there that's that don't want you to succeed, you
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: Like some people may have their other opinions, but I
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: feel like if a guy's coaching, he wants you to
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: see because like your success is his success.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: Like I feel like, you know, when you actually like
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: sit down and talk to a coach and just try
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: to understand like what it is that I really need
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: to be doing to you know, get better and stuff
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: like that, how can you help me? I think dudes
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: that have a different perception of coaches because it was
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: a long time. I didn't trust coaches until like until honestly,
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: like Ck kind of like got me out of that shell.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: And yeah, going from X to LS, like those dudes
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: really like, you know, pretty cool, good dudes, you.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: So that's when I kind of really like staying like, Okay,
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: we all in this together.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: And Coach Bo would also address like when he come
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: into the team. Obviously I've told the story about him
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: coming to the team meeting after the Michigan game. If
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: everybody had half the heart that Levante David, because you
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: had seventeen tackles that game, I think it was more yeah,
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: probably more twenty something. But Bo would also come in
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: and again this kind of played to his achilles heel
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: of everything, but he would know what's being said. He
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: would know that it could affect guys. Maybe not at
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: the level that guys kind of scroll their name and
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: see all this stuff being said about it, but he
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: would know people are saying shit to where he'd be like,
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: fuck everybody outside of these like he'd have more of
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: like a a rallying speech for everybody who's sitting in
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: that room. If we just had a bad game, Like
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: one game we lost to Iowa State. We shouldn't have
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: lost to Iowa State. We lost like nine to seven
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: or thirteen or nine or something. Rex might have had
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: a fumble. I want to say, maybe Niles. I remember
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: Niles was getting like death threats from fans, and Bo
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: would almost talk about it out loud and then talk
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: about like, fuck up, fuck all of them, like it's us,
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: it's us versus everybody else. Which looking back, you see
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: all the games that get played for hey coaches, It's like, Okay,
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: I can see how I kind of fans had. Now
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: everybody I feel like in the fan base appreciates it.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: But when he was leaving or when he got fired,
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: there was kind of a division between like the team
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: and the fan base at times because it'd be like
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: Bo would also be on the podum be like you
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: want to fire me? Fucking fire him? He'd be yeah,
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: he won the Davo Swingy game. Yeah he's just got
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: that Youngstown mafia vibe to him. Bro.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, But you pull that guy over and be like, hey,
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 3: I love all the things you're saying about this the team, like,
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 3: and I love it.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: Keep that up. But like you also have to play
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: the game out here. And he never gave never, He
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: just he cared about a ball. He cared about the guys.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 3: What you said a little bit ago, like I used
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 3: to not trust coaches, Like where? Why was that a
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 3: starting point for you as a player, because a lot
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 3: of us you kind of thrust in, whether it's your
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 3: parents saying to you or you just see this authoritative
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 3: figure You're like, this person knows more than me. Kind
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 3: of like me and a kid, like you think your
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 3: parents know everything. Then you get older be like, oh,
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 3: they have issues, just like we all have issues. So
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 3: for me as a kid, like I would look at
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 3: my coaches and be like whatever they say essentially the
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 3: word of God about why for you was it like
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 3: I didn't trust coaches and tell and tell this this
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 3: Nebraska coaching stuff.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: Because I just thought like they was out and most
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: coaches like be out for themselves, you know what I'm saying,
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: instead of just like you know, like and like when
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: coaches get on you and stuff like that, like that's
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: when I really like I didn't care. You know, I
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: didn't care for coaches and stuff like that. But when
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: you like actually like sit down and you know, talk
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: to them and kind of like get an understanding of
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: like what they doing while they going about where they go,
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: why they going about what they're doing, kind of like
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: and it's get a real idea of you know, why
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: they're doing what they're doing, and you know why they
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: want to want you to be successful so bad and
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: stuff like that. And then it's like sometimes you'd be like,
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: you know, you're just doing this because it's your job.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: Your job, that's your job. You have to be my
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: coach or whatever, But do you really care? You know,
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: I really want like I didn't know they really cared
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: or not.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: Some coaches don't. Yeah, you know what I mean, like
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: the hard Player, if you like you're asking that question,
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: I wonder why you don't trust coaches. I'm just thinking
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: when I watched the documentary You're the Bull, which is
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: my question, see how some of the coaches operate, I'm like, yeah,
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: I can see how there could be some trust issues. Yeah, well,
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: you hear about some of the you know, I don't
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: know coach Simms, but I'm thinking of all of the
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: stories that I'm hearing, It's like, yeah, there's there's so
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: many ways that you can inspire and motivate guys, or
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: it wouldn't come off like hey, maybe you could do
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: it this way versus like kind of just making all
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: the boys fight.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, as a as an eighteen at that time,
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: you don't know, like you know what I'm saying, Like
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: this is just been an asshole, you know what I'm saying.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: But from afar just outside looking at you get older
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: and you understand, like you kind of see, okay, like
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: this dude was trying to push me to be my
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: best and that's why, Like now like I kind of
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: finally got over all that stuff and like you know,
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: as I got older, I finally got over and I'm like, yeah,
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: I respect that guy. That's like he in the sense
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: helped me get to where I'm at right now.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah yeah, having that perspective. But also it's
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: like would you take some of these formulas that you
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: learn back then? Would you use them if you we're
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: a head coach? No, No, because in your brain you
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: think like there are ways that you can inspire most
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: without fucking.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like as like playing football, you know, I learned
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: how to become a certain type of leader, you know,
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: I learned how to adapt to certain players. I learned
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: how to talk to certain people, and that's something that
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: I kind of like learned throughout, like coming in as
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: a rookie. You know, I was quiet like trying to
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: learn and you know, just being doing what the rookie does,
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: just to sit back and stand behind the scenes. But
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: I was kind of like thrust in that role because
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: I was had the green dot and guys had to
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: listen to me, and guys that have talked to me,
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: and guys have to you know kind of like understand
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: the same page that I'm on and stuff like that.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: So I was kind of like, so what I did
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: was just kind of like get a sense of like
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: knowing you know, each player, each you know, work with
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: and stuff like that. So you know that's why I
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: always say, man, like it just me. It always just
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: thought about being a great person first, you know. That's
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: how you can like get to know people in and
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: kind of like understand how to you know, communicate with
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: them on a different level and stuff like that. Because
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: you know, this lead man, you you you meet so
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: much many different guys, you know, different types of you know,
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: different walks of life.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: And you know, some dudes used to being talked to
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: this way. Some dudes used to being talked to this way.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: And you know that's why I just making my you know,
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: make it a personal emphasis that you really just get
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: to know people because like I'll try, I'm.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: Gonna need you.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: I'm a leader, I'm gonna lean on you when you're
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: on the field. So like that's the way I can
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: like hold you accountable and you can hold me accountable
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: as well. Like if I know you're not doing what
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: you're supposed to do, I could talk to you a
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: certain kind of way. Some dudes like to get yelled at.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: Some dudes don't like to get yelled at. But whether
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: I'm yelling or not, you could really understand that I'm mean.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: When I'm saying that, I like you kind of like
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: feel a sense of like, Okay, now I got to
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: get I got to get my shit together because Vante's
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: depending on me, you know what I'm saying stuff like that.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: Throughout your career, was there because how many losing seasons
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: did you have for certain to turn around?
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 7: For you?
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: Eight eight seasons? Was there ever a moment in those
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: eight years that you're kind of like, I need to
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 2: go somewhere else, or maybe I don't want to play
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: as long as I'm one two be be cause how
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: just much the losing can weigh on you from the
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: organization or culture standpoint, like all the coaching changes, Like
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: maybe I needed different I need a different scene for sure. Bro.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: After the twenty eighteen season we went five and eleven,
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: it was Dirt Cutter was our head coach. They ended
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: up finding dirt and it was about to be you know,
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: this is going to be my fourth head coach. And
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: I'm like, who were you out on your deal?
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 9: Oh?
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: What was I I signed my deal and it was
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: on my fourth year of my deal? Third or fourth
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: year of my deal?
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: Was it the last year? It wasn't no game more
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: guaranteed money? I know that, Okay, Okay, yeah, all right,
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: that's what I'm trying to fit. Okay. So right, so
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: like if you wanted to make a move, this would
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: be a time. Yeah.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: So I remember I hit my aging up and Jason
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: like the GM. I'm telling them like, maybe it's time
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: for me to move. I think you guys probably should
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: just release me or trading because I don't want to
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: go through another coaching change. And you know, past history
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: shows that you know that hasn't been pretty good for
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: this organization, but they ended up hiring BA and you know,
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: Jason Company's like, man, I know you want to, you know,
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: do these things, but man, just give it a try.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: To think you'll love this guy. I'm like, I don't know, man,
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: Like it's a new coach coming in, it's a new defense.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: I'll play four through my whole career and we move
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: into a three four, so I don't know how fit
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: and that you know, I'm not the ideal four three
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: linebacker and you know, stuff like that. And then I
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: ended up talking to Ba. He was like, man, you know,
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: we want you to stick around, and we want you.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: We know we're gonna turn this stick around for you,
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: and we want you to be the foundation piece of
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: this turnaround.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: And you know. And then I'm like, man, I don't know, coach.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: Man like the defense stuff, hit the defense stuff. I
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: don't know if I'll be able to you know, grasp
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: that I'm used to being, you know, a four to
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: three defense. I know how to play in the four
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: three and stuff like that. And he was like, man,
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: trust me, you're gonna love Coach Bowls. He's the type
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: of type of coach that you want And I talked
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: to coach Bowls. He said, man, like, ain't not gonna change.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: You still going behind a three technique, you attacking style.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: And the first meeting fell in love with it.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 7: Bro.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh shit, this might work for real.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 2: So I loved it.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: But that's the time that I really thought about, you know,
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: really leaving Tampa.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: But when you're having those initial meetings in your brain,
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: how much were you mentally like I'm going somewhere else,
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 2: Like were you close? Were you having conversations with other teams?
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 4: No?
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: Because I was still on the contract. I didn't have
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 2: a chance to.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: So, but like when I anything with your agent, Yeah, no, No,
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: with my agent, he han't tell me like uh, he
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: was just saying like, uh, you know, Jason, them they
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: want to talk to you. They say this would still
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: be this would be a good you know change, like
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: this is what y'all need. I'm like, man, I don't know,
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you know it's gonna work for
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: me and stuff like that. But he ended up, uh,
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: you know, convincing me and it all worked out, bro. So,
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: but it's like I didn't have a chance to really
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: like talk to other teams that hear him talked about
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: other teams stuff like that, because they ain't let it
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: get that far.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, when you're going through your first free agency,
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: were you ever close to going somewhere else?
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: My first freeateency for real was.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 2: Twenty twenty three or after twenty two two seasons? Damn
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: they locked you up. Yeah, after the twenty two and
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 2: two seasons for a while. Yeah, I was gonna say
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: twenty twenties.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I did kind of like hear from
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: other teams for the first time. Like I was trying
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: to go to Miami and be honest, like I wanted
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: to because I felt like I was finishing up my career.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: I had retirement on my mind back then, and I'm like,
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: you know, it would be great if I could go
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: home and play for the Dolphins.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: And I had a conversation with.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: Those guys, but the money wasn't They wasn't talking about
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: the right price, so I was like, nah, I'm okay.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: And then it was a point where San Francisco reached out,
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: Buffalo reached out, Cleveland reached out, so probably more teams,
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: but you know, once, honestly, like once, like I didn't
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: have a chance to you know, go back home and play.
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 2: I was like, fuck, did I go back? I'm going
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 2: back to Tampa?
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 3: Did the money ever get to a st ploy with
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 3: these other teams like Cleveland, San Francisco or Buffalow, Like, like,
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 3: why was everybody that was offering you more than essentially
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 3: the Bucks were offering you?
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 2: No, I nobody was offering more.
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: But I think nobody wasn't really offering more because they
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: really didn't believe that I would leave Tampa, you know
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So they would just probably like throw
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: out a dollar amount and like just see he see
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: what he's going.
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 2: To do and stuff like that.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: So it really never got to a real negotiating type deal.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: But really like when Miami, you know, they threw they
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: offer out like oh, hell no, I'm not doing can
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: you say what it was?
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 2: It's over? Yeah, it is over. It was around that minimum.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 2: That minimum way like a one year, two year, like
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 2: a one year, one year, two three million, and that.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 3: Was that was that hold on? Now was that like
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 3: a starting price and You're just like I'm not even
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 3: having this conversation.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 2: I'm not having this conversation.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 3: That was the first number that yeah, like I want
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 3: to go home to my family, Like, okay, cool, how
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 3: about that? It was like, yo, fuck yourself.
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: It was one of those type things I'm like, nah,
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: I can't do this, no more like going back home,
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: going back to Tampa.
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 2: Did you ever get closer retiring before this year?
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: Yes, to be. I talked about it on my press
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: conference twenty sixteen. You know, the year my mom passed.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: I thought about giving it up. I thought about saying
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: just effort because like, at that moment, it was like
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: my biggest source of motivation, my biggest support was going.
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: So it's like, what's the point of playing football anymore?
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: You know, it's no, like my whole sole reason the
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: plan was just to like kind of like give give
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: her a life that she deserves, so you know, like
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: it was it was one of those relationships like if
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: my mom was the last year, probably have my whole
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: bank accounting for like that. Y'all ever seen that clip
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: with the soccer player and his wife divorced him and
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: she she couldn't get because everything with his mom's name. No, No,
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: I think it would have been that since with me
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: and my mom, Like, so, it was like it was
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: one of those type relationships. But it was like like
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: at that moment, I'm like, man, football.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 2: I didn't care.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: And like the crazy thing about it is, though, Bro,
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: like I had one of my at to that point
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: I had That year was my worst year, but I
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: made second team All Bro.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 3: Really, that's wild. How long was that thought process for you?
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 3: In twenty sixteen?
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: All year, Bro, Like, I didn't like, I kind of
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: didn't want to go to training camp. It was like
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: the first year that Dirt could have became my head coaches.
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: At twenty fifteen, we had lovely win five and eleven,
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: and then the next year twenty sixteen, Dirt came in.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: That was like the first winning season I had. We
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: went nine to seven. If the new playoff rule was
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: in at the time, we've probably been the seventh seed.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: So like we had a chance to make the playoffs
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: that year, but like I didn't care, Bro, Like I
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: I didn't even want to play football in no mo
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: for real, Like I was just out there doing I'm
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: supposed to do, just because I'm supposed to be doing this.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 2: Right, and I espeentially muscle memory at this point years
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 2: out there, so like.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: After the games, I'm going home, don't want to do nothing.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: You don't want to spend town with the family, just
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: go home.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: Usually sometimes I take the family out to eat and
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: I'm like, nah, man, we stay home having peace, one
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: feel like doing this and this and that. So at
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: that point in my life, you know, my career, I
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: was kind of like really contemplating retirement and giving football up.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 2: What turned it around?
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'll probably say, just understanding like my family I have,
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: Like you know, my family, man, Like we have a
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: real strong bond, like in that time, Like my dad,
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: you know, seeing him have going through that struggle too,
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: and him like kind of like just still you know,
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: being supportive of me and like just picking me up,
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: being a positive role mode of my life. And then
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: my siblings you know them, you know, keeping me uplifted
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: and seeing them how they handling everything. You know, they
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: being positive, they've been upbeat about the whole situation. Just
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: having them in my ear and understanding that like you know,
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: just is her dream for me to be able to
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: do something that I love. And you know that kind
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: of like click back of my mind, like, nah, my
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: mama want like it if I quit. So i'ma just
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: you know, i'mna just go ahead and just you know,
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: suck it up and just in the sense of new motivation,
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 1: which was you know, it wasn't essentially a new motivation,
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: but kind of like moved it over just to like
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: my family and my support system.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 2: Did that come from like a like a singular conversation
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 2: or was it something just over time?
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: Just I would say it was over time throughout the season,
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 1: just seeing they're still coming around, still keeping that same energy.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: Like it's like it was like it keeping an energy
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: like it never happened, like my mom never passed. Just
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: keeping that same atmosphere, that same love, keeping everybody comfortable
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: and stuff like that. So that's when that right there,
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: It's like when I realized, like, yeah, man, like you know,
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: nobody's really like beat up about it, nobody's torn a
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: part about it. They probably have their own grieving process
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: what they're going through it, you know personally and stuff
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: like that, but it needs to come to the games
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: that you talk to me after the games that you
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: should keep that same good energy. So that's what I
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: kind of like felt like, yeah, like just what you know,
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: having support and having family, having love when you go
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: through losses is really all about.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 2: So that's all I really kind of like, So, yeah, yeah,
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 2: there was now that you're you were mentioning that at
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 2: that year you had like your worst year and you
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 2: still got second team All Pro. Yeah, now that you're
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 2: on the other side, yeah, we're able to objectively look
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: at your career and think like about how often you
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 2: got snubbed a lot. Man, that's bullshit.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: I'm pissed off about that, Like every chance, every chance
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: that I get to talk about it.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 2: Because I'm in the.
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: Fourth three defense, I used to have to go against
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: three four outside linebackers, dudes who rushed the passion, and
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: you know, at the time, like I ain't you know,
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: I adn't really care about I used to think like
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: I just got to be better.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 2: I got to be better. These dudes better than me.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: But Thomas Davis Man TD used to talk and you know,
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: TD was a four to three outside linebacker, and I
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: remember him one time getting on the media and just
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: talking about that stuff.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, man, you've got a point, bro, Like
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 2: we've been doing all this. You know, we cover.
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: The cover, we got to make all these tackles, we
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: gotta do all these things. We playing in space and
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: stuff like that and like our job as hard as
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: hell for us not to get no real recognition is
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 1: like a like a true linebacker we got to go
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: against you know, Von Miller and you know, uh Brian A.
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: Rackpole and Ryan Kerrigan and all those guys everywhere. Matthews like, yeah,
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: those guys in the NFC, man, Like I'm like, bro,
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: that was like I'm like, bro, They're like that's not fair.
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: It's not fair at all. And you know, I really
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: hope they changed that at some point, you know, for
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: they need to change that. Even in the All Pro.
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: I remember one time All Pro uh t J. Watt
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: made All Pro as an edge rusher and as a linebacker.
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what the fuck? Like, how is that? Like
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 2: that's that's messed up, you know what I'm saying, Like
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 2: what about you know us the off ball guys like
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 2: like it should be different positions, bro.
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 3: Same thing for Cluil Mac too, didn't it. Clive Mac
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 3: was like off the ball All Pro and yeah, man,
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 3: give me the Pro Bowl and All Pro for both slots.
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 3: And the thing is like when they get to the
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 3: Pro Bowl, they're not trying to be standing up like now.
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: I rushed the passes. It's like, bro.
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 3: And then you get to the Pro Bowl and sometimes
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 3: von Miller is in the four to three saying and
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 3: you're like, Yo, what do you do about?
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: Exactly exactly, so it's kind of like it's brutal brow.
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 1: How would you change the rules? I would probably just
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: say stick edge strictly his edge. You know what I'm saying, Like,
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: make it more more more concept Vaga's edge. If you
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: got if you get ten plus sas year, you a
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: strictly your age guy. You know what I'm saying, Like,
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: that's it? Na a pass rusher, pass rusher, Yeah, yeah,
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: ball linebacker. You're like, bro, Like no, like that ship
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: is it need to be? We need to start some
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: type of petition for that because it it's crazy.
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 3: You already see a fall in your argument though, because
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 3: if you're talking about pass rushers, because defensive ends are
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 3: reaping the benefits of what's hurting you. Yeah, because they're
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 3: getting all pros and because they're like von Miller's not
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 3: getting he's getting the SAM he's getting a linebacker.
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And these d ns that are.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 3: Probably have like seven eight sacks are getting all pros
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 3: and like I keep it going.
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: I remember one year, Uh, I don't know who it was,
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: but somebody had don kind of like sued the lead
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: because they was considered a linebacker but there really was
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: a pass rusher.
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 2: It was kind of like it was kind of like
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 2: the same thing about Jimmy Graham. What are you talking about?
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 2: You the money standpoint?
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he was a tight end, Yeah, but he was
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 3: basically the number one pass cat paid like a wide
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 3: receiver receiver.
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: The same thing, Like this dude was getting getting paid
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 1: or franchise as as a linebacker was like twelve million
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 1: dollars instead of getting paid as a pass rusher, and
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: the pass rusher get like eighteen nineteen million dollars. So
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: it's like, what is he gonna do it? Like that
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: make him a pass rusher rusher and not off the
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 1: ball backer.
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 2: So I thought you that like sued the league because
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 2: they were just categorized for like all pro franchise tagger, Like,
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 2: oh no, you're a linebacker, like bro I double digits
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 2: that year.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 3: That's such a wild thing. That's hit because as an
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 3: offensive lineman, you're just a left tackle. So and then
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 3: you see all the Jimmy Graham's or whoever there's other individuals.
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, it's crazy you have to like kind
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 3: of fight for your money based on what position they're trying.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: To put you in.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 2: You it's not do you think about the Hall of
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 2: Fame conversation a lot?
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: I think, I mean, being realistically, bro, of course, yeah
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: I deserve I should get some you know, some type
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: of you know, votes to get in. But the way
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: it is looking like the way it really is, like
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: they're gonna go off the Pro Bowls and All Pros
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But if you really just sit
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: down and watch football and study film, I really think
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: it should go off that. And even the stats too, Bro,
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like if you sit like, yeah,
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 1: you can watch the tape, but even like yeah, accolades,
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: I fully get that. That's where it's like you got
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: like busting with the boy, Jerald McCoy hes getting on
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: the on the table for you. A lot of people are.
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: But you look at just even right outside of the tape,
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 1: is even the stats on the stat sheet? Yeah, it
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: should feel like a no brainer.
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm not sitting here saying it's like first out whatever. Yeah,
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 2: as long as you're wearing a gold jacket.
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: And then the thing is too though with that though,
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: like my god, London Fletcher, he hasn't got no nase either.
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 2: But I feel like that time's gotten in yet. Yeah
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 2: he went in two years ago, Okay, because there are
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 2: some cats being one.
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know it's gonna be I mean, it's
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: gonna be a tough conversation, but I definitely feel like
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 1: I should be up there because you know, my stats
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: speak for themselves. Like the one stat that I'm really
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 1: really proud of and it's being talked about a lot,
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: not like now's the tackle for loss that like that
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: my tackle for loss that goes to show like I'm
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: really like I really understand football, and it's just like
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: my instincts included to included into like really like understanding
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: you know football, win to when to attack and when
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: to play downhill and stuff like that, and like me
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: being a tie fourth and tackle of loss in the
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 1: history and the history of the games, and being the
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: only off the ball linebacker in the top fifteen. I
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: would say, and I want to say, the next guys,
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: Brian Urlacker and here like one thirty something, so like
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: it might not be touched for a very long time,
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: you know, I never know, But like for me to
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: be tied forth with nothing but pass rushers and defensive tackles,
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: I think like that definitely should be considered in that too.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, he's in the modern era football. Like the
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 3: one person they talk about having the best instincts is
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 3: probably Luke Kekickley, who was a friend of the show.
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 2: End of the show in Luke in my hand right.
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 3: Now, I have what is this the twenty thirteen NFL
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 3: season comparisons between Levonte David and Luke Keickley.
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, both individuals.
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 3: Played sixteen games total tackles. Keikley, I did you got
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 3: one of these sixths? You had one forty five solo tackles.
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 3: You had one oh seven. He had one oh two
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 3: assisted tackles. He had fifty four. You had thirty eight sacks.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 3: You had seven.
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 2: He had two.
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 3: Tackles for loss. Luke Keickley had twelve. In the twenty
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 3: thirteen season, you had twenty one quarterback hits eleven to four.
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 3: You win that interceptions five to four. You in that
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 3: pass defense passes defended seven to seven. Forced fumbles you
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 3: had two.
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 2: He had zero.
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 3: Fumber recoveries. You had one, didn't finish that other one.
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 3: He had zero defensive touchdowns. You had two, he had zero.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 3: If you were first team All Pro, only one of
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 3: you were a pro bowler.
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that was and Luke Keickley. We got a
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 2: question here from a hashtag tier to our West Philly
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 2: Tuck ask him if he truly felt that he deserved
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 2: the Defensive Player of the Year award in twenty thirteen
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 2: when they gave it to Luke Keigley Lucas ELVA player
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 2: again friend of the show, great friend of great, Friend
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 2: of the show. It had a great year, but LVD
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 2: stats were ridiculously better. Had they recognized his great inness
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 2: early in his career and rightfully given him that award,
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 2: it would have kept him from being so criminally underrated
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 2: all these years. Go look up at stats versus Lukes
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 2: has a thirteen, which just laid out. Yeah, that's crazy.
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 2: But is that a year you think about?
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's definitely, I definitely think because even though
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: I made a first team All Pro, like, it's not
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: like I didn't even get no recognition, bro, Like I
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: didn't even get like on like I didn't get a
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 1: chance to be like talked about it like a defensive
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: playery of voting at all, and like that's something that
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: like now that I think about, like damn, like that
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 1: that's messed up, you know what I'm saying, Like you
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: weren't even in the running, like a running I wanted
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 1: none of that. So like it was like, that's kind
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: of like, you know, kind of crazy in the sense
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: to me maybe because like that year, I want to say,
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: we went four and twelve that year and we started
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: out to sea like eight and something something there. Yeah,
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 1: we started out owing eight and uh, they actually was
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: pretty good that year. I want to say, they was
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: like thirteen and three or something that year. So they was,
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: you know, really good, decent team, you know. You know,
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: uh you talk about Luke Man.
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 2: Luke. I'm a fan of Luke. You know, Luke is
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 2: my guy. We're all, yeah, we all love Luke. Great.
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 2: Great Pat has to be using this example because he's
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 2: one of the best yah to catch the hands right
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 2: now about him.
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: But you know, as far as like me winning, you know,
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 1: obviously it comes with other stuff teams success as far
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 1: as winning, but the fact that I didn't get no recognition,
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: didn't get no like no votes, to become like zero
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: votes or not even talked about, to be defensive player
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: the year. It's kind of like, you know, messed up.
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, It's so fascinating because it does feel like
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 2: like Pro Bowl all the like, uh, play your accolades.
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 2: They get on such a pedestal where it's like all
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 2: pro that's like for players, like it's like a peak thing,
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 2: but it seems like it always just kind of gets
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 2: dropped and goes under the radar a little.
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 3: Evaluate Pro Bowl, they evaluate the honor of the year.
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 3: It's like all pros like technically better than Pro Bowl,
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 3: but people just kind.
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 2: Of like it's a list we all want to be
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 2: on and then it drops. But I feel like all
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 2: Pros doesn't get used until you're being explained or like
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 2: introded on a podcast or intro on a show, like
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 2: all the All pros they got. So I feel like
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 2: Pro Bowl just gets such shine when all that stuff
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 2: goes out because popularity plays into a lot.
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: More way more than pro bols. You know what I'm saying.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: From pro bols, it's you know, it's pretty cool to
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: have a Pro Bowl, but you know, the All Pros
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: is really like because it's like you're the best of
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 1: the best, but pro bol.
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 3: Hey, listen, you're right, and my only argument would be
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 3: like it's voted on by the media.
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 2: Levonte doesn't know that he's He's sitting across from a
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 2: three times pro bowler.
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 3: Zero time, Bro, I was I was good, not great.
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 3: You're telling me you were elite. Thanks, buddy, you were elate.
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 3: I appreciate that. Should we Should we try and get
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 3: Luke on the phone. Yeah, yeah, just FaceTime. I'm trying
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 3: and FaceTime.
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 2: They don't even say about this here.
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: Just ask him how he feels about good tests my retirement.
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: I really respect that from loose the.
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 2: Mande liability in that flight football game. Yeah, but obviously
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 2: one of our goats. That's crazy.
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 3: While you're sent about that text, I got one from
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 3: Francis ku Choe uh junior seventy eight. How much fun
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 3: was it uh to little bro Will Compton every day
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 3: at Nebraska? Said that you don't want to say that again, Francis.
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 3: Francis said that, come on, Francis, come on, be nice man.
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 1: Man Will with boys man we used to hang out
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 1: with did We did a lot together, Bro, like we
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 1: did everything?
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 2: Who was big Bro?
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 1: It was even.
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 2: It was like twins. It wasn't big brot Bro, I
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 2: have several videos going on, right, can you see that's
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 2: my brother? Yeah? Yeah, in the sense you were like
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 2: when you really think about you was the annoying little bro.
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to do my homework you want to send
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 2: you know, self and stuff like that. Do videos record
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 2: me all the time? Like, Bro, why are you bothering me?
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 2: You talk about you? Was at my house and he
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 2: was doing your homework on the laptop and laptop and
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 2: it was like all loves when I take naps on
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 2: you laying on my lap, Like what you're doing, bro.
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 2: Because we'd be roommates in the hotel together to Bookie
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 2: would always sing R and B and I always just
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 2: catching video recording me. He'd like, stop and look over
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 2: to man, what you're doing.
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 3: That's not that things about that as wild though, like
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 3: you recording him, it's kind of crazy, but you're just
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 3: randomly singing arm guy.
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 2: Man. I was R and B after football. No, I'm
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 2: not going to adventure that.
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 1: But you know I used to always like you know
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 1: how people like find a little hype or whatever, like no,
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 1: I used to listen to R and B. Probably because
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: I like I had, you know, old school parents that
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: kind of like stuck with me. So I used to
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 1: listen to R and B a lot, and he put
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 1: it on a little YouTube on this laptop. I used
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: to use a laptop a live.
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know, but I kind of comes out where
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 2: it was Big Bro. In this situation, Levante didn't have
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 2: a license, so guys had to drive him everywhere. I
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 2: had to go take him and he'd be like, he'd
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 2: be like, hey, Big Bro, can you can we can
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 2: I go get my sonic? Can I get my sign?
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 7: Man?
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 2: You're really eating that ship, Like, man, I just want
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 2: my chili cheese dog. Get in the car. I drive
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 2: him down, he get his sonic, get his You stayed close,
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 2: You stayed close to it.
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 3: You let him in the front seat and have him
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 3: in the back seat. He being his uh, he'd be
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 3: in the car seat and got to keep him saying yeah, man,
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 3: let's get you saying let's keep you saying we need
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 3: you this year. So no car crazy, no car license
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 3: now yes, and Bro.
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 2: I even tried the Big Bro and be like, let's
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 2: go to a parking lot and I'll teach you how
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 2: to drive and he was just too nervous to to drive.
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 2: He's not gonna do that.
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 1: I got comfortable with him driving me around, so yeah,
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 1: yeah you show.
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, are you really nervous? My learning to drive in college.
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 1: Kind of was yeah in the sense just because like
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 1: I really didn't care for driving, you know what I'm saying,
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 1: Because like I was doing was just going from my
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: dorm to UH to the football facilities and class and
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: stuff like that, walk around and things like that. But
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 1: I really got scared when I used to snow and
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 1: you had that little black ice and stuff like that.
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 1: So I'm like, hell, no, I would never drive out here,
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 1: So there's no point. I'm just a milk old wheel
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 1: over here.
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 2: To use him. You hear. He's like, No, I wasn't scared.
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 2: I just yeah, I never cared. I never cared for
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 2: I could be a sunshine day and I be bro
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 2: middle of summer, the middle of summer, Bro, you just
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 2: want to go practice driving? Like we'll go to a
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 2: parking lot. I'm good. God? So who was what we decided?
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 2: Who little Bro was? You don't have let the crowd.
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 2: We can let the audience, but I think the record
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 2: shows but you had a nice spin. I was a chauffeur.
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 2: That was his spin. I just I just laid it out.
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 1: I was telling him what to do.
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, take me here, take me this on it
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 2: now exactly. You know I wouldn't want to, But then
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 2: the coach would get on the phone and we need him.
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 2: Are you for real?
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 7: No?
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 2: No, for real? I mean, was the man like cal
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 2: els all the time.
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 3: I got another one here from Chris low Grosso being
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 3: a part of Winston's thirty touchdowns and thirty interceptions what
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 3: was being said around the locker room personal thoughts, and
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 3: then getting Brady who was the reaction then? So it's
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 3: a two parter. Yeah, let's put the Brady one to
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 3: the side. We've all reasked that in a little bit
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 3: thirty and thirty.
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the thing what jamis was you knew what you
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 1: was gonna get. You know, James gonna go out there
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 1: and slean the ball, throw that move and it was
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 1: gonna be a touchdown or interception.
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 2: Just so happened that year.
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 1: It was a tough year for him, you know, as
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: far as like throwing a touchdown interception ratio and stuff
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 1: like that. But the thing that was like really stood
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 1: out to more. It's like us defensively, like it got
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 1: to a point in that season we were just like
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 1: we like offense, get the ball. None of us used
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 1: to sit down, used to stand up and wait to
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 1: go in the field. No, we used to stand up,
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 1: wait to go in the field. And he throw the
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 1: interession like okay, he got out the way, we go
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 1: out there ball giving the ball back and he started
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 1: shlinging again. It was like you kind of looked at
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 1: it as like, you know, let him go out here,
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 1: go go out there and do.
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 2: Him and do what he do. You know, he stowed
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 2: around his touchdown, you know, throw it intercession.
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 1: But we're gonna motivating and drop We're gonna try to
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 1: give him the ball as much as we can, you know,
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 1: because sometimes he gon' like it's gonna be good.
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 2: But then sometimes it be on the other end. But
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 2: you know, it's just the way it happened.
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 8: Bro.
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 1: It's just like we was always just like motivated and
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: just like you know, we was. We actually had a
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 1: solid defense, like a pretty good you know year that year,
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 1: like not a pretty good year, but we went seven
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 1: and nine.
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 3: I feel your defense was always solid, especially one.
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 1: But we went seven to nine. But in since, like
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 1: a lot of those interceestions that we threw kind of
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 1: like put us on the back burning a little bit.
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 1: But if he, if James comes, like if he knock
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 1: out half of those, we definitely don't win the team.
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 3: Was what was the coaching staff like with Jamis in
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 3: that year because you watch him. Yeah, he was on
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 3: our show two years ago at the Super Bowl New
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 3: Orleans and we brought up the thirty and thirty and
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 3: he's like that that record will never be broken.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 2: He was like proud of it.
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's got this like energy about man, how
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 3: can you ever get mad at the kid?
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 1: And it was just that exact thing, like it was
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 1: that like it was Jameis is an authentic guy, man,
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 1: Like you're gonna get what you get out of Jameis.
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 1: Like there's no faking, no facade as him. And you
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 1: know the coaches, you know, when they got a chance
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 1: to know him, they saw that, like Jamis is a
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 1: football player and he's a quarterback. He's a gun slinging
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 1: quarterback and sometimes with being the gun slinging quarterback, bad
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 1: things happened. And that year, you know, he was like
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 1: he threw five thousand yards and he had what thirty
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 1: four touchdowns I think, yeah, something like that. And you know,
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 1: you got to know look at the game within the
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 1: game too, like some of those stuff probably wasn't his fault.
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 1: You know, guy's probably not running the right route and
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 1: he's expecting people to do be certain areas and like
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 1: the other team, you know, unfortunately capitalize off those. But
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't think nobody honestly, like bro, I
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 1: don't think nobody was really like, you know, pissed off
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 1: about it or getting on them about it. I mean,
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: he probably had his own private conversations and stuff like that.
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 1: But from a defensive standpoint, bro, Like it really was
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 1: a point where like once they took the ball, like
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 1: we wanted to receive the ball first. It's like, okay,
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 1: let James get his you know, intercession out of the
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 1: way and let's go out there.
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just going to.
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 3: Want to get his first one. Yeah, because we played
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 3: we played all that year. Yeah yeah yeah, and you
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 3: I think you feel like you were three games like
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 3: this dude really just keeps getting it back and the
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 3: game was still tight defense just like nice, yeah bro
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 3: about you. Okay, I'm like kind of like he's a
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 3: minute to go against.
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 2: This year that we played Joe Too and came back
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 2: the Kirk Cousins. You like that game. I want to
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 2: blame him on that. Yeah, I mean, obviously to a
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 2: full it was to come back that game.
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, crime, I hate that game because like Kurt my guy,
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 1: you know, we Kurt good people's or whatever. But no
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 1: fucking way, that shouldn't happened. Bro, That shouldn't happen. But
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 1: I think we got a little passive on defense, like
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 1: we went, like I told you man that year, that's
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 1: when we had you know, Lovely Smith were strictly covered too,
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 1: so like once you like, you can only want to
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 1: cover too so many times until somebody start. You know,
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 1: like I feel like Cover two nine and today's game,
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 1: we should throw it out there, throw it out there
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 1: here and there and give it different looks.
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 2: But we lined up with Cover too, and you knew
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 2: what we was playing, so you guys kind of exploited
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 2: that that whole second. We ended up being your ass.
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 2: Not be nice.
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 1: Y'all beat us in overtime, No, the last play, last
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 1: couple of seconds, y'all be we won.
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 2: We came back. We were down what it was asking
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 2: in the second half. It was in the second half,
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 2: you know, it was twenty four to three. You know,
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 2: an adjustment we made in the second half.
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 1: What was the adjustment?
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 2: That's when I started. I can't start the second half
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 2: of a game, That's right. That's when the transition that started.
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 2: Getting on the field. Remember we were watching some of
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 2: those plays. Yeah, and I was out there tired. I
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 2: got the one where Buddy kind of broke you off
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 2: on the sideline, yeah fifteen Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well sometimes
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 2: well and I will just get kind of banged up.
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 3: We've done this a couple of times. We'll just put
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 3: old games on and watch each other play. At your
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 3: senior year in Nebraska Michigan game. Yeah, what was uh dude?
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 3: What was the energy like when you saw that the
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 3: goat Tom Brady was coming to Tampa Bay.
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 1: It was incredible, bro, I remember that thing like it
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 1: was yesterday. Like obviously, I remember the hype behind it.
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 1: It was like so first and foremost at that I
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 1: actually me and I'm talking to Ba or whatever.
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 2: He was like, you know, we will.
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 1: It was a point where we might have signed James
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 1: back and they was just talking about like you know,
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 1: we just got to get him on board, get him right,
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 1: getting together, because like we could win games with Jamis
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 1: if he just you know, cut down.
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 2: The interceptions because it strolled that season.
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 1: And then he was like, a but there's a chance
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 1: we might have a shot at what he said, he
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 1: called him at we got oh, we might have a
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 1: shot the big guy. I'm like, who's the big guy?
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 1: It was like Tom, I'm like what, Like Tom, Like,
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 1: Tom ain't leaving New England, man, what was you talking about?
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 1: So that went in one day and out the other.
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 1: And then as the off season progress, you see Thomas
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 1: really not going back to New England. And then stuff
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 1: started like once he once they said he's not going
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 1: back to New England. I think the Bucks went full
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 1: throttle with a full throttle at it. And then like
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 1: you kind of see like they're talking about teams, like
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 1: potential teams, and the Bucks wasn't a team on there.
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 1: So I'm like, Okay, well yeah, it might not actually happen.
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 1: And then that actual day May, I was sitting on
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 1: the couch eating my Cereal Captain Crunch crunch berries and
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 1: bro it came across the ticker. Tom Brady agrees to
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 1: turns with the Temp Bay Buccaneers and like I like,
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 1: like I literally like like what And like my phone
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 1: was right here, like sitting on the couch next to me,
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 1: and was just blowing up, going crazy, and I ain't
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 1: even want to answer because I was like, nah, this
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 1: can't be real, Like nah, I don't believe it. And
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 1: I'm talking to people, I'm talking, I'm talking and talking.
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 1: And then like a couple of days later, he ended
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 1: up calling my phone. He's like, Heynte, man, you know
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 1: this is Tom. Like, I'm excited to be a guy
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 1: against you. Uh, decided to play with you and not
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 1: against you anymore. And I came with you, got to
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 1: welcome in the locker room, and he's just started talking
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 1: about you know, this is you guys' locker room. You're
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 1: the leader of the team, so you know, just you know,
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 1: don't treat me no different, you know, treat me like
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 1: all the other guys and stuff like that. I'm like,
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 1: the hell you talking about you, Tom Brady? You getting
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 1: whatever you want? This is your team now. And then
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 1: like actually like actually meeting him for the first time, bro,
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 1: it was like like from a guy with his status,
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 1: with his superstar status, you would think, you know what
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 1: comes with that, like outside looking in obviously you know
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 1: when people have loss and sas you kind of judge
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 1: people and stuff like that, Like you'll think this guy's
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 1: a you know, a whole prima donna. He's an egotistic guy,
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 1: but the complete opposite, bro, Like he's.
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 2: A a guys guy. He's a great dude.
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 2: He talked to you.
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 1: He actually get a chance to sit like know you
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 1: and kind of like understand where you come from, what
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 1: you you know, what, like what you like and stuff
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 1: like that. And like when I saw that and he
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 1: treated everybody like that, from the top player to the
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 1: last player, bro, Like, yeah, I thought it was amazing
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 1: because I ain't never seen nothing like that. He honestly
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 1: he earned the right now and not even act like that,
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, But to see him actually
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 1: like do that, Bro, it was kind of pretty cool
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 1: to see.
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 2: Was there ever a moment where he like stood up
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 2: and spoke to the team like say, you guys are
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 2: having your run, or you're in the playoffs, or you
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 2: just have that moment where everybody on the outside might
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 2: hear stories, but you're sitting.
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 1: There and you're like, oh yeah, that is that mother
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 1: the only moment, Like honestly, bro, he didn't even have
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 1: to say nothing, like the way he practiced, the way
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 1: he carried hisself, like his competitive age, like his compreditive nature,
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 1: like he was competitive as hell in practice, Like he
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 1: no like like nah, I want ones on ones, you
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like we need to compete. We
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 1: need to do this and that and that, like I
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 1: need to get actual looks and things like that. And
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 1: then the first time he actually stood up and spoke
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 1: with the Super Bowl in the locker room broom and
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 1: you know, you kind of hear guys talk about it,
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 1: but like to actually like be there and be in
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 1: the moment when he stood up and said like like
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 1: somebody else is about to talk, and he just stepped
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 1: in there and like you moved do it out the
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 1: way and just started talking to everybody like oh shit,
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 1: Tom talking like this is real. So everybody just kind
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 1: of like gravitated to him. And he just think he said,
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 1: was like this moment right here, you're gonna be remembered forever,
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 1: Like your last name's gonna remember forever. Ten years from now,
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 1: we're gonna come back and celebrate this moment and your
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 1: family gonna remember forever. And it's like it all like
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 1: kind of like came down. Like for me personally, was
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 1: like I'm thinking, like, damn, Like, bro, I went eight years,
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 1: like people know that, nobody not knowing me. You know,
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 1: people you know, not knowing who I am. Nobody know
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 1: about my game and stuff like that. But if I
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 1: win this game this moment, people gonna know who I am.
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 1: And like That's what I was thinking about. And Bro,
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 1: that shit really happened, you know what I'm saying, Like
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 1: everybody like got like that point from that point when
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 1: he started, like after he started talking, it was no
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 1: doubt in my mind that he wasn't gonna win that game.
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 2: That's trying me. Then you go out and lock up,
• 2:01:35
  Speaker 2: Travis Kelsey. I did my job against Travis Kelsey the show.
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 1: I like to hear that because he said locked up.
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 1: I was like when I was I did what I
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 1: was supposed to do.
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 2: I did how many catches on me? Yeah?
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 1: I like when I'm actually guarding them, probably like three yards.
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know how many yards. I didn't even look
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 1: at the stat.
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 2: Honestly, it didn't matter. It didn't matter it didn't matter.
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 2: What's that locker room?
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 3: Like when you after you guys win the Super Bowl,
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 3: the parade, confetti, everything in the public season, now you're
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 3: in the locker room, Like are you just running? Uh?
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 1: To be honest with you, bro, I did all my
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 1: celebrating on the field, Like when I went to the
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 1: locker room, people was gone by the time I got
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 1: in the locker room, Like I was really like out
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 1: there celebrating with all the guys, you know, celebrating my family.
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 1: It's the point I went to the motherfucker's stand started
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 1: talking to people and stuff like that. Just I was
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 1: just embracing the moment, bro, because like that eight years prior,
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 1: I never thought I'd be in that situation, you know
• 2:02:38
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and actually do it in your home
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 1: stadium in that fashion, Like it was like one of
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 1: the best moments in life, honestly. And what kind of
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 1: fashion dominating fashion speaking being fashion and the crazy things
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 1: like we played them. We played them earlier that year
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 1: and they kicked eyes, you know what I'm saying.
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 2: And then the second time, second half, we kind of
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 2: like had a little you know, adjustment period, we played better.
• 2:03:05
  Speaker 1: We ended up losing that game twenty seven, twenty four,
• 2:03:08
  Speaker 1: and we saw like the media like how they was,
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 1: you know, saying talking about how the Bucks ain't gona
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 1: you know, that's it for the Bucks. You know, if
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 1: they're not gonna they they might go to the wild
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 1: Card and that's as far as they're gonna go. And
• 2:03:22
  Speaker 1: that kind of like put a chip on all our shoulder.
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 1: And I just remember saying, like, we're gonna play these
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 1: dudes again, probably in the super Bowl, and then we
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 1: can't wait.
• 2:03:29
  Speaker 2: And it showed that game, are you guys dominate?
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Like that poor offensive line for the Kansas City
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 3: Chiefs had had no chance to breathe the entire game.
• 2:03:39
  Speaker 3: Even some of the throws that that man was making though,
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 3: like falling down taking the chest and it was dropping and.
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, he's still kind of
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 2: still going keep doing it. There was no quitting that dude,
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 2: And like we knew that, you know what I'm saying.
• 2:03:51
  Speaker 2: Like when we was up, I want to say it
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 2: was up twenty one to three and a half, it
• 2:03:54
  Speaker 2: was like, you know that they got Pat Mahomes over there,
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 2: so you guys better still, you know, be ready, And
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 2: like I Honestly, Bro, our whole game plan was like
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 2: our front four stopped to run and get at the quarterback,
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 2: and everybody in the back end do what you're supposed
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 2: to do where you're supposed to be in coverage. Lock on, guys.
• 2:04:11
  Speaker 1: When he started scrambling and everything, got to take care
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 1: of yourself.
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 3: What when you're up twenty three three and a half,
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 3: it's Tom Brady getting up being like we've been here,
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 3: I've been here before.
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 2: Tell us tom Brady, Yeah, I'll tell you another good
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 2: one in the half.
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 1: I don't remember exactly that the half because, honestly, Bro,
• 2:04:28
  Speaker 1: I was a weekend fan and and the Weekend was performing,
• 2:04:31
  Speaker 1: so I kind of like was outside the locker room
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 1: trying to peek.
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 2: And trying to peek in here the weekend.
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 1: But Tom Brady, tom Brady's story, we were seven to
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 1: five going to the bye week, and before we let
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 1: everybody broke for our little break or whatever to go,
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 1: you know, go out different ways. I remember walking in
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 1: the hall and Tom grabbed me. It was like, you know,
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 1: how's going, How's going. I'm like, yeah, we're gonna be
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 1: all right, man. We just got to fix a couple things.
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 2: Gonna be better.
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 1: And then he was said and then I was how
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 1: about office, Like how's it going over there? It's like,
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 1: you know, it's still some stuff like getting used to,
• 2:05:04
  Speaker 1: but you know we're getting there. We're gonna, we're gonna,
• 2:05:07
  Speaker 1: we're gonna were gonna dominate this second half of the season.
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 1: And it was like, look at me, I promise you
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 1: when we come back, we're not gonna we're not gonna
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 1: lose another game. I promise you that I'm gonna make
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 1: sure of it. And never lost after that.
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 2: So I'm like, damn, right this man, you know what
• 2:05:28
  Speaker 2: I'm saying.
• 2:05:28
  Speaker 1: And then my mom like whatever whatever, and then like
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 1: as it happening, it's like one of those moments like
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 1: you ever seen a water boy when the girlfriend told her,
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 1: like we're gonna win.
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 2: This game, but that's what it's gonna be. That's what
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be.
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 1: It was like that, Like as it happened, I'm like, damn,
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 1: this is what's gonna be. We're not gonna lose another game.
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 1: So that was it was pretty cool.
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 10: Bro.
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 2: Like he was the most like dominating, like.
• 2:05:53
  Speaker 1: For God to not be like athletic as he was,
• 2:05:55
  Speaker 1: but like he was like a problem on the feel
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 1: like you just kind of like like damn bro like,
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 1: and then I picked him off the present one time
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 1: and I thought that was the hot of my life.
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Get let him you know,
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 1: I'm celebrating stuff like that. But like I said, man,
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 1: it was real competitive, bro. Like he talked trash talk.
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 1: We trash talk with him, and like we made an
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 1: emphasis like you know, mess with Tom and you know
• 2:06:17
  Speaker 1: obviously Mike too, Like just mess with those guys. But
• 2:06:20
  Speaker 1: that little era of the Tom Brady era, man, that
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 1: was pretty pretty pretty dope to be a part of.
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 2: How was uh what does smell like? Gotta be nice?
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 2: When you're all right, man, then you're pretty you know
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 2: sys the morning like.
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 3: A finished practicing. It was like hid and shower, you
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 3: didn't have to.
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 1: I never seen Tom eat like, I never seen him
• 2:06:45
  Speaker 1: eat nothing. All he had was his little TV twelve,
• 2:06:48
  Speaker 1: little water bottle. He always drink. He always like taking
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 1: care of his body. Again, worked on. Never really saw
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 1: him in the weight room, but I always just seen
• 2:06:57
  Speaker 1: him working doing stuff the better himself, you know what
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 1: I'm saying.
• 2:07:00
  Speaker 2: So you know, you gotta respect a guy like that. Well,
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 2: It's like when Gronk came in that locker room. Man,
• 2:07:05
  Speaker 2: I love Grunk man like Grunk energy. Grunk is the
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 2: same way from the time he come in the building
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 2: to the time he lead a building. It was like
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 2: full of energy, happy, happy, go lucky, and like it
• 2:07:16
  Speaker 2: was sometimes iver.
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 1: I didn't even think like grunk knew to playbook, new
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 1: to offense, but like he always knew what the hell
• 2:07:21
  Speaker 1: to do, and that kind of like was kind of
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 1: like weird to me, you know what I'm saying, Like, like, bro,
• 2:07:26
  Speaker 1: like I like this he's doing. He does everything right
• 2:07:31
  Speaker 1: because like you know, I used to try to like
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 1: ask her, like you know, I used to play against
• 2:07:35
  Speaker 1: go against the tight ends a lot, and I used
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 1: to like always like mess with him and joke with
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 1: him and stuff like that. So I kind of used
• 2:07:40
  Speaker 1: to like picking their room and stuff like that, and
• 2:07:42
  Speaker 1: like he be in a bushing and not you know,
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 1: not paying attention and stuff like that.
• 2:07:46
  Speaker 2: So I'm like, you know, Grunk just a talent. But
• 2:07:49
  Speaker 2: when they really like see.
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 1: Like him and Tom had this theme man, I don't know, man,
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 1: like they was always on the same page and everything,
• 2:07:56
  Speaker 1: like some type of telekinesis type thing, bro, Like I
• 2:07:58
  Speaker 1: don't know, like and like, you know, we put our
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 1: emmy board, you know, we put up the MBS and
• 2:08:05
  Speaker 1: stuff like that, and like Grunk never was on there,
• 2:08:08
  Speaker 1: like and the whole team. Yeah, like the whole team,
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 1: Like after a practice, you got you got the board
• 2:08:12
  Speaker 1: for like emms and stuff like that, and I never
• 2:08:15
  Speaker 1: really seen his name on there. And then like what
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 1: I think what I really loved about Grunk, Like, Bro,
• 2:08:19
  Speaker 1: he used to know how to really blocked like most
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 1: tight ends, you know kind of like get thrown there,
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 1: bullsh or whatever. But like Nah used to really like
• 2:08:26
  Speaker 1: block his tail off. And you know he used to
• 2:08:28
  Speaker 1: get rewarded for me, you know, for the block and
• 2:08:30
  Speaker 1: stuff like that. But it was fun having him.
• 2:08:32
  Speaker 2: Bro.
• 2:08:32
  Speaker 1: He was always energetic, hyping, hyped up, dancing around, uh
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 1: you know, listen to the rap music with us, you know,
• 2:08:39
  Speaker 1: around there, just chilling, hanging out with the guys in
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 1: the locker room. So you know, like those two dudes, bro,
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 1: Like you will think the complete opposite, but you know
• 2:08:48
  Speaker 1: you'll think more opposite with Tom, but Grunk you kind
• 2:08:50
  Speaker 1: of see it in the media, But yeah, that's exactly.
• 2:08:54
  Speaker 7: Like that.
• 2:08:54
  Speaker 2: He really liked that, Bro.
• 2:08:56
  Speaker 1: I really liked that in the locker room, dancing around,
• 2:08:58
  Speaker 1: playing around, and like him and Leonard Fournette had this
• 2:09:00
  Speaker 1: pretty cool relationship and they used to always see each
• 2:09:03
  Speaker 1: other like they used to see each other get hyped up. Hey,
• 2:09:05
  Speaker 1: it was up, Lenny, Like it's the same shit. Like
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 1: he's like that all the time.
• 2:09:09
  Speaker 2: Bro, It would be pretty good to see how was
• 2:09:12
  Speaker 2: your dvantage point during the Antonio Brown moment with the
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 2: Jets Because you're you're defensive, but you're on the sideline,
• 2:09:19
  Speaker 2: so yeah, the offense is a little farther down from you,
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 2: but the offense be on the field hear and everything
• 2:09:23
  Speaker 2: go down, go down? What was your advantage point.
• 2:09:26
  Speaker 1: Like on that day? So I was on all right
• 2:09:28
  Speaker 1: at that time. That's like the second game I missed.
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 1: I didn't travel. But I tell you this, bro, leading
• 2:09:35
  Speaker 1: up to that, you saw it stirring up. You saw
• 2:09:38
  Speaker 1: it brewing, just because like he came one day, like
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 1: we was in there, what we was in the locker room.
• 2:09:44
  Speaker 1: You know, we were chilling the locker room. He came
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 1: in there like complaining about something or whatever. And I
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 1: think we played the Panthers prior the week before or whatever,
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 1: and he complaining that. He was complaining about how I
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 1: don't think he scored a touchdown with him, Like, Bro,
• 2:09:57
  Speaker 1: like you had over one hundred yards like what you're
• 2:09:59
  Speaker 1: talking about. He's just like pissed off and like you
• 2:10:02
  Speaker 1: can see, like damn, like it's like he might snap,
• 2:10:06
  Speaker 1: Like he might snap soon.
• 2:10:08
  Speaker 2: And then he was just going off about something small. Yeah,
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 2: just something small.
• 2:10:12
  Speaker 1: And then there was another point like I wasn't there,
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 1: but like one day I came back for meetings or
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 1: whatever and was like we needed you, man, we need
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 1: you to come a B down. I'm like a B
• 2:10:22
  Speaker 1: like what happened with Ab like his first first like
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 1: he was coming off the suspension. I think at that
• 2:10:26
  Speaker 1: time when he got suspended for the fake COVID tests
• 2:10:28
  Speaker 1: or whatever, but uh, he was coming off the suspension.
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 1: It was like Bro, Ab was having practice going crazy
• 2:10:34
  Speaker 1: like and it was a walk through pressent. He just sprinting,
• 2:10:37
  Speaker 1: catching the ball, throwing that people like, cursing people out
• 2:10:40
  Speaker 1: and like damn what he snapping for, like going off
• 2:10:43
  Speaker 1: on coaches like give me the fucking ball, like going
• 2:10:45
  Speaker 1: off and stuff like that, and like they were like, damn,
• 2:10:48
  Speaker 1: what's going on?
• 2:10:49
  Speaker 4: Bro?
• 2:10:49
  Speaker 1: So uh, that game It's kind of like I wasn't
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 1: surprised in the sense, but the way he did it,
• 2:10:57
  Speaker 1: Like during the game, I.
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 2: Was like, damn, maybe like what you doing want that man?
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 1: And then like, to be honest with you, man, ab
• 2:11:02
  Speaker 1: kind of messed up our chances going to the second
• 2:11:04
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl.
• 2:11:05
  Speaker 2: It was like he was that he was that dude. Bro,
• 2:11:07
  Speaker 2: he was really really a really really good football player.
• 2:11:09
  Speaker 1: And like it just when you rub h in the
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 1: wrong way, anyway, he's gonna you're gonna get a B
• 2:11:16
  Speaker 1: or you're gonna get Antonio Brown.
• 2:11:18
  Speaker 2: And that day that mother with a B. Really, what
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 2: did you ever speak to him? After that? He was
• 2:11:25
  Speaker 2: come back figure it out? I didn't speak to him.
• 2:11:27
  Speaker 3: Bro.
• 2:11:28
  Speaker 1: The next time I seen a B was the like
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 1: that off season, I saw him at a heat game
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 1: and we was talking like nothing ever happened.
• 2:11:34
  Speaker 2: I ain't even want to bring it up because it
• 2:11:36
  Speaker 2: might trigger him again, and I don't want to trigger him,
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 2: and Basketball just wanted to.
• 2:11:44
  Speaker 1: I think he wanted the ball more. But I think
• 2:11:46
  Speaker 1: it's still up for something much deeper. Some people got
• 2:11:48
  Speaker 1: their own, you know, their own you know, opinions about it,
• 2:11:51
  Speaker 1: but from when that's going around, just like, uh, that
• 2:11:54
  Speaker 1: off season he didn't get paid how much he wanted
• 2:11:56
  Speaker 1: to get paid, and you know, so he probably want
• 2:12:00
  Speaker 1: to be like a higher paid guy, but he didn't
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 1: get that. And then I think they ended up giving
• 2:12:05
  Speaker 1: Grounk more money than him or something like that. So
• 2:12:07
  Speaker 1: I guess he felt away about that.
• 2:12:09
  Speaker 2: Oh that's right, because he did start whether it's Twitter
• 2:12:12
  Speaker 2: or something talking about kind of I don't know if
• 2:12:14
  Speaker 2: he was saying Gronk's name maybe, but I do kind
• 2:12:16
  Speaker 2: of vaguely remember that.
• 2:12:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's the story kind of like behind.
• 2:12:19
  Speaker 1: It's one of them that I kind of like know about.
• 2:12:21
  Speaker 2: But yeah, great football player though, great football player, one
• 2:12:27
  Speaker 2: of the best of all time. Yeah yeah, yeah, for
• 2:12:31
  Speaker 2: sure could have clearly could have clearly been one of
• 2:12:32
  Speaker 2: the best ab at his peak, like one of the
• 2:12:35
  Speaker 2: greatest receivers to ever touch the grades.
• 2:12:38
  Speaker 1: And the way he worked, you can see it, like
• 2:12:40
  Speaker 1: everything was full speed, bro, full speed. I heard man
• 2:12:43
  Speaker 1: even like walked through spread full speed bro and running
• 2:12:46
  Speaker 1: through the end zone after he catched the ball full speed.
• 2:12:49
  Speaker 1: And he's another one of those guys like damn, like do.
• 2:12:52
  Speaker 2: He know the playbook? But he's doing everything. I'm like
• 2:12:56
  Speaker 2: damn like and actually like knowing what she's supposed to
• 2:12:59
  Speaker 2: do and THEMN like.
• 2:13:00
  Speaker 3: And he was a low round draft pick to the
• 2:13:03
  Speaker 3: sixth round round went to the Central Central Michigan, Michigan. Yeah, crazy,
• 2:13:08
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 2:13:08
  Speaker 2: It was.
• 2:13:09
  Speaker 3: His first play with the Steelers was a kick return
• 2:13:11
  Speaker 3: for a touchdown.
• 2:13:12
  Speaker 2: The dude was just him. He's little too, yeah. Yeah.
• 2:13:15
  Speaker 3: We se him at the Pro Bowl Pro Bowl and
• 2:13:18
  Speaker 3: he'd have a squad of like twenty people with him
• 2:13:19
  Speaker 3: at all times. Yeah yeah, and he just he was
• 2:13:21
  Speaker 3: always in a good mood, it seemed like. But this
• 2:13:23
  Speaker 3: is before I never saw him act a certain way.
• 2:13:26
  Speaker 3: I just knew like he had a lot of people
• 2:13:27
  Speaker 3: in this camp, and I feel like anytime I would
• 2:13:29
  Speaker 3: see somebody rolling around with like more than five people,
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 3: like the ten range, right, like, man, he kind of
• 2:13:36
  Speaker 3: I think he had too many people.
• 2:13:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's like, you knew the lore of a
• 2:13:40
  Speaker 2: b all the way basically up until the Raiders, right
• 2:13:42
  Speaker 2: the Raider year.
• 2:13:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, then he went once the Raider thing, he started
• 2:13:46
  Speaker 3: with like a helmet and then the feet and then
• 2:13:48
  Speaker 3: all that. I think, so yeah, I mean, who knows
• 2:13:51
  Speaker 3: he's more than one to go on the show and
• 2:13:53
  Speaker 3: talk about it.
• 2:13:54
  Speaker 2: To Yeah, that sounds crazy. Was there ever a like
• 2:13:57
  Speaker 2: who's the player you think about that you were just
• 2:14:00
  Speaker 2: frustrated with because they had so much talent?
• 2:14:05
  Speaker 1: I can't really off the top of my head, I
• 2:14:08
  Speaker 1: really think about no guys, oh man, some guys who
• 2:14:13
  Speaker 1: I will say probably had a lot of potential, but
• 2:14:16
  Speaker 1: certain things probably like derailed their career.
• 2:14:18
  Speaker 2: Maybe, h damn.
• 2:14:21
  Speaker 1: But what I say, Rojo, I say Rojo. I already
• 2:14:26
  Speaker 1: like Rojo Ron the Jones running back. It's really good,
• 2:14:29
  Speaker 1: really good football player. But I just think like running
• 2:14:32
  Speaker 1: back in the league, man, is pretty tough. It's life.
• 2:14:35
  Speaker 1: It's a different life. Like obviously when we were bringing
• 2:14:38
  Speaker 1: it in and kind of obviously felt some type of
• 2:14:40
  Speaker 1: way and things like that.
• 2:14:41
  Speaker 2: But that same year he almost had a thousand yards.
• 2:14:45
  Speaker 1: But uh obviously no, uh, Leonard started getting the ball
• 2:14:48
  Speaker 1: more and so like they kind of like just you know,
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 1: it's one ball and you want to play, you know.
• 2:14:57
  Speaker 2: Like I feel like if he stayed on the right track,
• 2:14:59
  Speaker 2: here be you know, probably been you know, a dominant guy.
• 2:15:05
  Speaker 2: Uh who else?
• 2:15:07
  Speaker 1: Bro who else?
• 2:15:08
  Speaker 2: Vernon Hargraves, Broon Corner.
• 2:15:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, Vernon was the most one of the most
• 2:15:14
  Speaker 1: talented athletic dudes bro and he had some solid years,
• 2:15:18
  Speaker 1: but I just think like some stuff kind of like
• 2:15:21
  Speaker 1: derailed his career too. But you know, I got a
• 2:15:23
  Speaker 1: lot of respect for Verne, but I feel like he
• 2:15:26
  Speaker 1: could have been an all pro level player.
• 2:15:28
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 2:15:29
  Speaker 1: Whatever happened, you know, off the field, whatever the relationships
• 2:15:31
  Speaker 1: he had with the coach and stuff like that, kind
• 2:15:33
  Speaker 1: of like I think may have messed him up. I
• 2:15:35
  Speaker 1: don't know exactly, just like outside looking at and just
• 2:15:37
  Speaker 1: give him my opinion about I think, uh, some stuff
• 2:15:40
  Speaker 1: kind of like veer him off track for actually being
• 2:15:43
  Speaker 1: focusing on football.
• 2:15:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:15:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds when you hear about dudes that they
• 2:15:49
  Speaker 3: have all the talent in the world and for whatever reason,
• 2:15:51
  Speaker 3: like other distractions get them. Like you hear they got
• 2:15:53
  Speaker 3: Trent Richardsont all the time he was like thinking third overall. Yeah,
• 2:15:57
  Speaker 3: the guys that were the Colts or the Browns, everyone,
• 2:16:00
  Speaker 3: it was both. Like he get off the field, he'd
• 2:16:03
  Speaker 3: be on his phone the entire time. He always had
• 2:16:05
  Speaker 3: no no, no, no practice. He'd be on the phone
• 2:16:09
  Speaker 3: like he alway seem like he was dealing with something
• 2:16:11
  Speaker 3: to where like clearly he needed somebody in his camp
• 2:16:14
  Speaker 3: to be like, hey, these issues man, Like, these things
• 2:16:17
  Speaker 3: can be focused on a different time, Like, you have
• 2:16:18
  Speaker 3: to be focused on this right now because I'm play
• 2:16:20
  Speaker 3: with that kid in the under armour game Les senior
• 2:16:23
  Speaker 3: year and he was legit like this man's thirty, Like
• 2:16:26
  Speaker 3: he was just a grown ass man like and you
• 2:16:27
  Speaker 3: see what he did Alabama. You hate seeing that type
• 2:16:30
  Speaker 3: of stuff. All the talent in the world, and it's like,
• 2:16:32
  Speaker 3: how do you not just put it together?
• 2:16:34
  Speaker 4: Man?
• 2:16:35
  Speaker 1: I think it's just all about discipline, bro, come down
• 2:16:37
  Speaker 1: and discipline, Like you you've got to focus on the
• 2:16:41
  Speaker 1: main thing, Like that was my whole thing, bro, Like
• 2:16:43
  Speaker 1: football is gonna be, you know, gonna be my way out.
• 2:16:47
  Speaker 2: I want to i want to live a certain lifestyle.
• 2:16:48
  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna focus on football, and I'm you know,
• 2:16:52
  Speaker 1: get all I can get get out of get all
• 2:16:55
  Speaker 1: the benefits out of football. Like, but I'm gonna do
• 2:16:57
  Speaker 1: what I gotta do until you know I can't do
• 2:16:58
  Speaker 1: it no more, and then hour about that stuff, you know,
• 2:17:01
  Speaker 1: after the fact. And I think if the guy just
• 2:17:03
  Speaker 1: like be disciplined, like you know, you got an off
• 2:17:06
  Speaker 1: season where you can hang out and stuff like that,
• 2:17:08
  Speaker 1: but when it's time to lock in, you gotta lock in,
• 2:17:10
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like I always tell people,
• 2:17:11
  Speaker 1: bro Like, you can't cheat the game, bro Like talent level.
• 2:17:15
  Speaker 1: Everybody got the same type of talent, but it's certain
• 2:17:17
  Speaker 1: small things that you got to like just focus on
• 2:17:20
  Speaker 1: to kind of like separate you from different people.
• 2:17:22
  Speaker 2: And I think being disciplined throughout the game is one
• 2:17:24
  Speaker 2: of those things. Yeah, could you play another year? Yeah?
• 2:17:28
  Speaker 2: I could have played another Yeah, for sure a chance.
• 2:17:31
  Speaker 3: No, what was that conversation, Like, like, when did you
• 2:17:33
  Speaker 3: know it was actually gonna be before you answer that,
• 2:17:36
  Speaker 3: I do have to go catch his flight, dude, I
• 2:17:38
  Speaker 3: got I got a roll.
• 2:17:39
  Speaker 2: Dude.
• 2:17:40
  Speaker 3: I know viewers are not endo the podcast, but seriously,
• 2:17:42
  Speaker 3: your career is incredible. Hearing the stories from Will like
• 2:17:45
  Speaker 3: extremely happy for you, your family, that little girl you
• 2:17:47
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• 2:19:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 2:19:26
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah. When did that decision come about for you? Oh? Man?
• 2:19:30
  Speaker 1: Uh see, I talked to the Bucks so part like
• 2:19:36
  Speaker 1: two weeks before I actually announced it. I just remember
• 2:19:40
  Speaker 1: just you know, just one day, you know, like you
• 2:19:42
  Speaker 1: know me, remember like every time going to the off season,
• 2:19:44
  Speaker 1: I just kind of like, I gotta have a plan
• 2:19:47
  Speaker 1: for myself. You know what I'm saying. I gotta have
• 2:19:48
  Speaker 1: a plan. I gotta know what I want to do,
• 2:19:50
  Speaker 1: and you know, I gotta start, you know, mapping out.
• 2:19:53
  Speaker 1: I'm a structure guy, bro, Like, I love a structure life.
• 2:19:56
  Speaker 1: So like I had some type of structure. And since
• 2:19:58
  Speaker 1: I was going back and forth whether we're returning and retiring,
• 2:20:03
  Speaker 1: it was kind of like hard for me to kind
• 2:20:04
  Speaker 1: of like planing out certain things that I wanted to do.
• 2:20:07
  Speaker 2: So what are you able to share those certain things.
• 2:20:10
  Speaker 1: Oh, just like as far as like my training strategy
• 2:20:14
  Speaker 1: and you know, as far as like what I'm.
• 2:20:16
  Speaker 2: Gonna do about my diet and you know, what I'm
• 2:20:19
  Speaker 2: going to do about.
• 2:20:19
  Speaker 1: My knee fits and my knee and stuff like that,
• 2:20:21
  Speaker 1: and like just get myself prepared for you know, the
• 2:20:24
  Speaker 1: next season. And once I kind of like and then
• 2:20:28
  Speaker 1: obviously how I'm spend time with my little girl and
• 2:20:29
  Speaker 1: stuff like that. Like once I kind of like kind
• 2:20:33
  Speaker 1: of like kind of like didn't have a clear thing
• 2:20:37
  Speaker 1: on what I wanted to do. That's when I knew like, yeah,
• 2:20:39
  Speaker 1: this is probably time for me to retire, because like
• 2:20:41
  Speaker 1: if I really wanted to play football again, I would
• 2:20:43
  Speaker 1: have had all this map that out and already said already.
• 2:20:46
  Speaker 1: So that's when I kind of like really like understood
• 2:20:49
  Speaker 1: like nah, like and then like I just sat down,
• 2:20:52
  Speaker 1: you know, look at myself and mirror like, bro, like
• 2:20:54
  Speaker 1: do you really really want to play?
• 2:20:56
  Speaker 2: Is it worth it to play another season again? Will
• 2:20:58
  Speaker 2: you be motivated? You you know, be all in with it?
• 2:21:02
  Speaker 1: And I thought to myself like, na, I probably won't.
• 2:21:04
  Speaker 2: So that's when I already decided like, yeah, it's time
• 2:21:07
  Speaker 2: for me to give it up. What was the conversation like, like, uh,
• 2:21:10
  Speaker 2: the feeling going into having those convos with the Bucks? Yeah,
• 2:21:13
  Speaker 2: the family. Yeah, was it difficult.
• 2:21:17
  Speaker 1: Talking to the Bucks. It was difficult for the most part,
• 2:21:20
  Speaker 1: just because like the relationship I built with those dudes,
• 2:21:23
  Speaker 1: and you know, talking to Jason, talking to Todd, and
• 2:21:25
  Speaker 1: then with my family not so much because my family
• 2:21:28
  Speaker 1: always been supportive of what I wanted to do and
• 2:21:30
  Speaker 1: stuff like that, and you know, obviously they're gonna have
• 2:21:32
  Speaker 1: their questions like are You're gonna regret it or it's
• 2:21:36
  Speaker 1: just certain like the tackle thing, the tackle record thing,
• 2:21:38
  Speaker 1: do that mean anything to you? Like you're gonna look
• 2:21:41
  Speaker 1: back at them ask yourself like, dang I should have
• 2:21:43
  Speaker 1: did it just to kind of like cement myself as
• 2:21:46
  Speaker 1: the you know, uh attack in the Bucks organization history.
• 2:21:51
  Speaker 1: And then I thought I was sounding like, no, they
• 2:21:54
  Speaker 1: really don't mean that much to me. So that's when
• 2:21:56
  Speaker 1: I kind of like knew like, yeah, you know, pretty
• 2:22:00
  Speaker 1: pretty pretty good with that from you know, my family standpoint,
• 2:22:02
  Speaker 1: and then talking to you know, Jason for the first
• 2:22:05
  Speaker 1: time to tell him it was like, man, it's gonna
• 2:22:07
  Speaker 1: be one of the hardest conversation I had and you know,
• 2:22:09
  Speaker 1: we both kind of like had a little sad moments
• 2:22:13
  Speaker 1: and we just wanted to reminiscen because you know Jason,
• 2:22:15
  Speaker 1: you know, Jason Nebraska guy. He's a Nebraska fan, and
• 2:22:17
  Speaker 1: he even talking about man like, and he's talking about
• 2:22:20
  Speaker 1: my dad and stuff like that, and he was like
• 2:22:21
  Speaker 1: maybe gonna miss you around here and stuff like that.
• 2:22:24
  Speaker 1: And then talking to Bowls. You know, the relationship relationship
• 2:22:26
  Speaker 1: we built, you know, that was kind of like tough.
• 2:22:28
  Speaker 1: And you know, hearing him talk and tell me how
• 2:22:31
  Speaker 1: he felt about me and how in the past seven
• 2:22:33
  Speaker 1: years I kind of like helped make his job easy
• 2:22:35
  Speaker 1: and stuff like that. So that was probably that was
• 2:22:37
  Speaker 1: probably one of the toughest moment. And obviously like just
• 2:22:40
  Speaker 1: the press conference, man like, I got a lot of
• 2:22:42
  Speaker 1: respect for that organization.
• 2:22:44
  Speaker 4: Bro.
• 2:22:44
  Speaker 1: They showed me a lot of love and like to
• 2:22:46
  Speaker 1: support I had when I you know, talking and stuff
• 2:22:48
  Speaker 1: like that. It was pretty pretty cool to witness. And
• 2:22:51
  Speaker 1: it just goes to show like how I impacted those
• 2:22:53
  Speaker 1: people and how they impacted me as well, like how
• 2:22:56
  Speaker 1: they came and support me and stuff like that. I
• 2:22:57
  Speaker 1: thought that was pretty dope.
• 2:23:00
  Speaker 2: It is nuts. Man Like, even the time where it
• 2:23:03
  Speaker 2: was like, how long ago? Was it a couple of
• 2:23:05
  Speaker 2: years ago where they came out with like that type
• 2:23:08
  Speaker 2: of guy? Yeah, the type of guy they won as
• 2:23:10
  Speaker 2: a buccaneer. It's essentially your silhouette or painting of you
• 2:23:13
  Speaker 2: in the in the draft room twenty twenty three. Uh
• 2:23:16
  Speaker 2: that iron that. Man.
• 2:23:17
  Speaker 1: I guess it was something that they had prior to that,
• 2:23:20
  Speaker 1: but that's the first time I heard about it. And
• 2:23:22
  Speaker 1: then when Jason was talking about it in the press conference,
• 2:23:24
  Speaker 1: he was like, man, like, we have a silhouette of
• 2:23:26
  Speaker 1: a guy who we kind of want to mow our
• 2:23:29
  Speaker 1: next next. Yeah, that generals football player behind it, and
• 2:23:33
  Speaker 1: that guy is Leante? Does you have these certain qualities
• 2:23:36
  Speaker 1: and attributes and stuff like that? And I was like, damn,
• 2:23:39
  Speaker 1: that's how y'all. You know, that's how y'all feel, you
• 2:23:41
  Speaker 1: know that? And then that she kind of like made
• 2:23:42
  Speaker 1: me choke up a little bit, Like bro professional organization.
• 2:23:45
  Speaker 1: You know, all the history that they have, all the
• 2:23:47
  Speaker 1: players that came in down of this building, y'all got
• 2:23:50
  Speaker 1: me as a guy who y'all want to mow y'all
• 2:23:52
  Speaker 1: next great player after And I'm like, Damn, that's an
• 2:23:56
  Speaker 1: NFL organization, an NFL organization, like you grow up just.
• 2:24:00
  Speaker 2: As a kid, we all want to be you know,
• 2:24:02
  Speaker 2: you create your player, you do all the things you
• 2:24:04
  Speaker 2: want to be. You want to be the best the
• 2:24:06
  Speaker 2: game ever seen.
• 2:24:07
  Speaker 1: No thought in my mind that that crossed my mind
• 2:24:10
  Speaker 1: that that they that's how they felt about me. Yeah,
• 2:24:12
  Speaker 1: And you know that's why I, like I say, like,
• 2:24:16
  Speaker 1: I have a ton of respect for them. And obviously
• 2:24:18
  Speaker 1: it showed they didn't want me to leave. And you know,
• 2:24:20
  Speaker 1: they kind of like put the ball in my court
• 2:24:22
  Speaker 1: every time after every year the past couple of years,
• 2:24:24
  Speaker 1: like well I want to come back or not. I
• 2:24:26
  Speaker 1: have a contract that they got a contract ready for
• 2:24:28
  Speaker 1: me and a sounding or not, and you know, decision
• 2:24:31
  Speaker 1: is all based on me. So that's why I thought
• 2:24:34
  Speaker 1: that pretty cool bro, Like.
• 2:24:36
  Speaker 2: Sick man, that the impact that you've got you've made.
• 2:24:39
  Speaker 1: On on just football. Yeah yeah, bro, pretty cool man.
• 2:24:43
  Speaker 1: What uh by the way, I am that man? Is
• 2:24:46
  Speaker 1: that your documentary?
• 2:24:47
  Speaker 8: Uh?
• 2:24:47
  Speaker 2: Is it? Yeah?
• 2:24:48
  Speaker 7: It is?
• 2:24:48
  Speaker 1: I have a Yeah, they felt my God, Steven Lynch
• 2:24:52
  Speaker 1: filmed me just throughout this whole from the AF season
• 2:24:54
  Speaker 1: throughout this whole season, kind of like.
• 2:24:57
  Speaker 2: Decision makers on who would be featured who would be
• 2:24:59
  Speaker 2: doing the interviews for it? Was it you?
• 2:25:02
  Speaker 1: I mean I had some input on it. Yeah you
• 2:25:06
  Speaker 1: kind of like jealous about it?
• 2:25:08
  Speaker 2: No, I don't care.
• 2:25:12
  Speaker 1: But like you with the drive, I wasn't really the driver.
• 2:25:16
  Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not a you know, I'm not a
• 2:25:19
  Speaker 2: cloud guy. I'm not like you know, I want to
• 2:25:21
  Speaker 2: be on stuff fame. I hate when people.
• 2:25:23
  Speaker 1: Put the spotlight on me, but to protect myself, you know,
• 2:25:30
  Speaker 1: they just like throw ideas at me, like whether I agree,
• 2:25:33
  Speaker 1: Like I don't really have no real ideas of who
• 2:25:35
  Speaker 1: to interview and stuff like that. But you know, I mean,
• 2:25:39
  Speaker 1: if I was really into that stuff, you know, your
• 2:25:41
  Speaker 1: name would have been brought up.
• 2:25:44
  Speaker 2: Well, I was telling you, I'm sure there's a good reason.
• 2:25:47
  Speaker 8: I do want to bring something up that let said
• 2:25:50
  Speaker 8: when he came through and he was looking at the set.
• 2:25:53
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah you want to let Will?
• 2:25:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah for sure.
• 2:25:56
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 2:25:58
  Speaker 1: All these years bro that you I don't have a
• 2:26:01
  Speaker 1: wheel come in Jersey or do I?
• 2:26:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you do. We did. We did a Jersey swap. Literally.
• 2:26:06
  Speaker 2: Sore next is coming into my gym tomorrow. So as
• 2:26:09
  Speaker 2: people listen to this podcast today, outfitting those things, it's
• 2:26:12
  Speaker 2: getting painted right now as we speak, your frame jersey
• 2:26:15
  Speaker 2: long Mason falls, Sir Quincy, and I do need to
• 2:26:18
  Speaker 2: go around and get some more jerseys from guys. But
• 2:26:21
  Speaker 2: yours is has been in its frame, like yours is framed.
• 2:26:24
  Speaker 1: Do I have one of yours? I don't think I
• 2:26:26
  Speaker 1: have one.
• 2:26:27
  Speaker 2: Did we not exchange jerseys when we played?
• 2:26:31
  Speaker 1: I do when we took a picture with Ben?
• 2:26:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Ben, I think you should have a Washington Yeah. Yeah,
• 2:26:37
  Speaker 2: I think it must be at the bottom of your clothing. Yeah,
• 2:26:40
  Speaker 2: you must have lost it. You got a bunch of
• 2:26:42
  Speaker 2: frame jerseys hanging up. I do have a bunch I
• 2:26:47
  Speaker 2: think I got. We'll cut that. We'll cut that for
• 2:26:51
  Speaker 2: you know, he's got to do a lot of things
• 2:26:54
  Speaker 2: over the years. I know, you know, I know what
• 2:26:58
  Speaker 2: I mean.
• 2:26:58
  Speaker 1: I think I think I looked at the Tennessee Titans
• 2:27:00
  Speaker 1: once and like that's like, you know, you like it
• 2:27:05
  Speaker 1: was prominent here as a Tennessee Titan.
• 2:27:07
  Speaker 2: So I was probly that's your spect. You should have
• 2:27:16
  Speaker 2: a Washington one. I think you do have Washington. Yeah?
• 2:27:22
  Speaker 1: Was that Washington? Was that your first year? The second year?
• 2:27:26
  Speaker 7: That was?
• 2:27:27
  Speaker 2: Was that the twenty fifteen games? Was that game? Yeah?
• 2:27:30
  Speaker 7: You have.
• 2:27:31
  Speaker 1: You You should have a good one like that was.
• 2:27:33
  Speaker 1: I probably was pissed out through it somewhere.
• 2:27:36
  Speaker 2: Then you like that game, it was like the start transitional.
• 2:27:39
  Speaker 1: That's why I got lost because like that game, Like
• 2:27:42
  Speaker 1: I was pissed off after the game, like I got
• 2:27:44
  Speaker 1: your jersey, pro just throw it somewhere. It's just a game, man, like,
• 2:27:47
  Speaker 1: come on, we run. We should run deeper than that.
• 2:27:52
  Speaker 1: But at that time, you was like an op playing
• 2:27:55
  Speaker 1: And then I had to hear from you and you
• 2:27:57
  Speaker 1: know how you are?
• 2:27:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, your ass? Yeah exactly. So it's like, damn, big bro,
• 2:28:04
  Speaker 2: little bro, oh man, where did you even go from here?
• 2:28:10
  Speaker 2: That's tough to hear. I do have yours? Is ready
• 2:28:13
  Speaker 2: to get hung up? It's it's actually the first time
• 2:28:15
  Speaker 2: because of course I have my jerseys hanging up, but
• 2:28:18
  Speaker 2: I'm hanging up all the other fellows that I got. Okay,
• 2:28:20
  Speaker 2: you're one of them. I got a Levante David Tampa
• 2:28:22
  Speaker 2: Bay buccaneer jersey, got the one, the U, the uniforms.
• 2:28:26
  Speaker 2: It was your way jersey. Yeah, you can hook me
• 2:28:29
  Speaker 2: up with a nice one. We can do a proper exchange.
• 2:28:32
  Speaker 2: Now if you feel like you lost it, which you
• 2:28:34
  Speaker 2: know that's tough double check because Jersey was like I
• 2:28:37
  Speaker 2: would love to have that jersey.
• 2:28:39
  Speaker 1: Remember I used to give it like I used to
• 2:28:40
  Speaker 1: have get all my jury. At the end of the year,
• 2:28:42
  Speaker 1: I put it in a bag and I used to
• 2:28:43
  Speaker 1: give it to my people. Hey framed this, so there
• 2:28:46
  Speaker 1: was something you said, get framed. Don't worry about that one.
• 2:28:51
  Speaker 1: That's my boy, comp Hill. We have enough room on
• 2:28:54
  Speaker 1: the wall. Did you sign it? Did we sign it?
• 2:28:58
  Speaker 1: Did I sign I don't think so. Now see there
• 2:29:01
  Speaker 1: we go right there and I need to know something.
• 2:29:03
  Speaker 2: Sign. I'll give you something.
• 2:29:05
  Speaker 1: I'll give you one sign.
• 2:29:06
  Speaker 2: Where you'll headed. And for people who don't know what
• 2:29:10
  Speaker 2: I'm saying there, you have to listen to the zoom pod,
• 2:29:12
  Speaker 2: the brutal Auto. You got to fix your audio system
• 2:29:15
  Speaker 2: when you're doing stuff from home. You're on the different side.
• 2:29:18
  Speaker 2: Now you're in retirement. I'm not sure we'll talk about
• 2:29:21
  Speaker 2: your future, but if you're getting anything media related, you
• 2:29:23
  Speaker 2: got to have a more You gotta have a better
• 2:29:26
  Speaker 2: setup at home. So I listened to you on obviously
• 2:29:28
  Speaker 2: on ours it was tough audio. I listened to you
• 2:29:30
  Speaker 2: on Pat McAfee last week and I'm just like as
• 2:29:32
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to listen to you, like, my man's got
• 2:29:34
  Speaker 2: to fix this a sound set up? So what do
• 2:29:36
  Speaker 2: I need? So I'm I'm I'm doing it off of
• 2:29:39
  Speaker 2: a Mac. I'm AC. So like, what type of system
• 2:29:42
  Speaker 2: do I need? You're just doing it off the Mac. Yeah,
• 2:29:44
  Speaker 2: Well listen, we got some guys, We got some quality
• 2:29:46
  Speaker 2: guys back there, gotcha. Well we give you a introduce
• 2:29:51
  Speaker 2: you to like just a travel system because the Bugs
• 2:29:54
  Speaker 2: media team told me that too. It's like, you got
• 2:29:56
  Speaker 2: to be better on this.
• 2:29:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the sounds side. It's a good an interview, but like, bro,
• 2:30:01
  Speaker 1: it's hard to listen to It's hard to listen to it.
• 2:30:03
  Speaker 1: It's just because from the audience, you're just using a laptop. Right,
• 2:30:06
  Speaker 1: And we'll get you right.
• 2:30:07
  Speaker 4: What is.
• 2:30:09
  Speaker 2: First question? How's the last week? Then how's the first
• 2:30:12
  Speaker 2: week of retirement? Where you're like, yeah, I'm sure there's
• 2:30:15
  Speaker 2: a transition. Come on, I am done playing foot Yeah,
• 2:30:18
  Speaker 2: like I have nothing to I don't have otag think
• 2:30:20
  Speaker 2: about it. We've got nothing to think about in the
• 2:30:21
  Speaker 2: football world. Honestly, Like when I the next day i
• 2:30:25
  Speaker 2: woke up, I'm.
• 2:30:25
  Speaker 1: Like, damn, like I'm really don't with football, Like I'm retired,
• 2:30:28
  Speaker 1: and it's like I gotta figure out life now. But
• 2:30:31
  Speaker 1: the good thing about it is bro like I feel
• 2:30:33
  Speaker 1: like I had a successful career. I earned some good
• 2:30:36
  Speaker 1: money throughout my career, so I feel like I have
• 2:30:38
  Speaker 1: a chance, Like I have time to like enjoy myself
• 2:30:40
  Speaker 1: a little bit, like take some trips, enjoy life, do
• 2:30:43
  Speaker 1: certain things, and what's on the bucket list. On the
• 2:30:46
  Speaker 1: bucket list I want to do. I want to take
• 2:30:48
  Speaker 1: a trip to Egypt. That's something I really want to do.
• 2:30:50
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm into history, so I want to you know,
• 2:30:53
  Speaker 1: kind of like like through the history of Egypt, you know,
• 2:30:57
  Speaker 1: look at the pyramids and stuff like that, and you know,
• 2:31:00
  Speaker 1: go to the beaches. Cairo got a nice beach out there.
• 2:31:03
  Speaker 1: And then I kind of like want to go back
• 2:31:05
  Speaker 1: to I've been to Italy before, but I want to
• 2:31:07
  Speaker 1: go back to Rome. I never I didn't go to Rome,
• 2:31:09
  Speaker 1: So I want to look at the coliseum and kind
• 2:31:11
  Speaker 1: of like look at all that stuff and look at
• 2:31:13
  Speaker 1: the you know, the history of that. And another place
• 2:31:18
  Speaker 1: is on my bucket list is probably Bali or you know,
• 2:31:24
  Speaker 1: like some a place that's really like beachy and nice
• 2:31:27
  Speaker 1: and stuff like that. It's another place that what's that place?
• 2:31:30
  Speaker 4: Man?
• 2:31:30
  Speaker 2: Everybody be going to obviously celebrity Florida Flora? Is it
• 2:31:37
  Speaker 2: like like at the Zarks in Missouri? No?
• 2:31:42
  Speaker 1: Not like are you doing these trips this year? No,
• 2:31:46
  Speaker 1: eventually I'm gonna get to them, though. Are you doing
• 2:31:48
  Speaker 1: any of these? Are you doing Egypt this year?
• 2:31:50
  Speaker 7: No?
• 2:31:51
  Speaker 2: I'm not doing Egypt this year. So what do you
• 2:31:53
  Speaker 2: got on the dock of this year? This year? Talking
• 2:31:55
  Speaker 2: about looking at your funds and looking I can travel
• 2:31:57
  Speaker 2: and do this and that right now? With then it's
• 2:32:01
  Speaker 2: it's March thirtieth. You got the entire year.
• 2:32:03
  Speaker 1: I mean the good thing about it is like if
• 2:32:05
  Speaker 1: I want to do it, I could just go ahead
• 2:32:07
  Speaker 1: and holler my travel age to just do it.
• 2:32:09
  Speaker 2: But like, I uh.
• 2:32:11
  Speaker 1: But honestly, bro, like I just want to like just
• 2:32:14
  Speaker 1: online and relax for the most part, just at home.
• 2:32:17
  Speaker 2: Just home. You are my loner, you know, my homebody.
• 2:32:20
  Speaker 1: Just take my ass home and just wake up when
• 2:32:23
  Speaker 1: I want to wake up, get to stuff when I
• 2:32:25
  Speaker 1: want to get to stuff.
• 2:32:26
  Speaker 2: Like just chili, cheese, dogs, just have free wheel. Yeah, bro, yeah,
• 2:32:32
  Speaker 2: are you so homebody? In my brain? I'm thinking it'll
• 2:32:36
  Speaker 2: be a few weeks, you'll just be get maybe get
• 2:32:38
  Speaker 2: a little stir crazy. Yeah, but what are you into
• 2:32:41
  Speaker 2: at home?
• 2:32:42
  Speaker 1: I'll be playing a Yeah, I'll be playing a game.
• 2:32:44
  Speaker 1: I play a game a lot. But I'm not one
• 2:32:46
  Speaker 1: of those gamers in a sense, like I don't like
• 2:32:48
  Speaker 1: playing against people in the game just because like a
• 2:32:51
  Speaker 1: competitive and like I see how people talk to people
• 2:32:53
  Speaker 1: on those video games, and like I know, I'll get
• 2:32:56
  Speaker 1: pissed off and I want to do some physical stuff
• 2:32:59
  Speaker 1: to people way they talk, and it's like I can't
• 2:33:03
  Speaker 1: get into it. Like, so what I'm doing right now?
• 2:33:06
  Speaker 1: I played my career on n Cuba. I got by
• 2:33:09
  Speaker 1: four players. I got a quarterback, a receiver, running back,
• 2:33:13
  Speaker 1: and a corner. No in, a linebacker, not a receiver,
• 2:33:15
  Speaker 1: but a linebacker. And I'm like, like one of them.
• 2:33:18
  Speaker 1: The linebacker I got drafted fifth overall to the Patriots.
• 2:33:21
  Speaker 2: What's his name? Damn?
• 2:33:23
  Speaker 1: What's his name? King Expert or some shit like that.
• 2:33:26
  Speaker 1: Just make stuff up. And then I have a corner
• 2:33:29
  Speaker 1: right now that I got with the Bucks. His name
• 2:33:31
  Speaker 1: is Benny Sparks. I have a quarterback. My quarterback is
• 2:33:38
  Speaker 1: my nephew name Junior Nelson. And the running back I
• 2:33:44
  Speaker 1: don't know the running back name, but that's what I
• 2:33:46
  Speaker 1: be doing, bro, for the most part.
• 2:33:48
  Speaker 2: And then like.
• 2:33:51
  Speaker 1: I love taking my daughter to school, picking up from school.
• 2:33:54
  Speaker 1: I think like that that right there is like the
• 2:33:56
  Speaker 1: highlight of my day, honestly picking up and taking her older.
• 2:33:59
  Speaker 1: She know, she's she turns for me, turns forward this Friday.
• 2:34:03
  Speaker 2: This Friday. Yeah, yeah, you know was born like a
• 2:34:07
  Speaker 2: month before. Yeah, logan, dangn isn't it crazy how they
• 2:34:12
  Speaker 2: just tell you, you know, they're like update you on
• 2:34:14
  Speaker 2: the day. They're all emotional. Yeah, in the emotion, it
• 2:34:21
  Speaker 2: completely changes you inside.
• 2:34:22
  Speaker 1: And out, inside out, bro, Like I didn't know I
• 2:34:25
  Speaker 1: was the type of person I am with her, Like
• 2:34:29
  Speaker 1: the patience, the vulnerability, the love. It's like crazy. Like
• 2:34:37
  Speaker 1: yesterday we was in the car and she said something.
• 2:34:41
  Speaker 1: She's like had a full blown conversation with me. She
• 2:34:43
  Speaker 1: was talking and like I don't know what the hell
• 2:34:45
  Speaker 1: she talking about, And I just looked back like like
• 2:34:49
  Speaker 1: what what are you saying? She just like, don't worry
• 2:34:51
  Speaker 1: about it, And I just started laughing, like what.
• 2:34:58
  Speaker 2: Listen to me?
• 2:35:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just crazy.
• 2:35:01
  Speaker 2: What you got to do, bro? I'll have to send
• 2:35:03
  Speaker 2: you the video that I made of rude go walking
• 2:35:05
  Speaker 2: into the coliseum at Rome. You guys remember that, like
• 2:35:09
  Speaker 2: her just kind of her little self walking in because
• 2:35:12
  Speaker 2: Scotty down Scotti sixteen months sixteen months old. She's a
• 2:35:16
  Speaker 2: spark plug, but it is it's the best man I
• 2:35:20
  Speaker 2: need some girl, dad has we got you. Yeah, it's
• 2:35:25
  Speaker 2: basically for the dad spot now for sure, go check
• 2:35:28
  Speaker 2: out for that. You have to come back and get
• 2:35:30
  Speaker 2: on and do for the dads with you. Essentially guest
• 2:35:33
  Speaker 2: host with us. I won't just be sitting there interviewing you.
• 2:35:36
  Speaker 2: You'll be engaged, be talking about Papa Team six, Milk
• 2:35:40
  Speaker 2: Team six, the blowouts, the struggles, the frustrations, the love,
• 2:35:46
  Speaker 2: the vulnerability.
• 2:35:47
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of frustration.
• 2:35:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, bedtime. How many books to read? How many books
• 2:35:54
  Speaker 2: that are you on? Like right now, I got Rue.
• 2:35:56
  Speaker 2: I have a nice operation of two books. Two books, Okay,
• 2:36:00
  Speaker 2: Scotty'll go through seven or eight okay, also Red one,
• 2:36:02
  Speaker 2: she'll hit it. She doesn't want it, she wants a
• 2:36:05
  Speaker 2: different one. Yeah, but Rue, I have her locked into
• 2:36:07
  Speaker 2: two books. You gotta brush your teeth.
• 2:36:09
  Speaker 1: So starting with Logan, we started off with three books
• 2:36:12
  Speaker 1: and then I'm down to two sometimes one, depending on Yeah,
• 2:36:16
  Speaker 1: how she like if she passed her bed time, So
• 2:36:18
  Speaker 1: I got like, hey, like it's past your bedtime, so
• 2:36:21
  Speaker 1: I can only read you one book.
• 2:36:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So stuff like that, Like it's really like.
• 2:36:26
  Speaker 1: A negotiation process, which is crazy, like and like when
• 2:36:29
  Speaker 1: she wants to have a little extra time playing, like
• 2:36:31
  Speaker 1: in the tub, she's like playing with the toys and
• 2:36:33
  Speaker 1: the tubs, like can I have five more minutes?
• 2:36:35
  Speaker 2: I'm like five more minutes? Now? Is that deal?
• 2:36:37
  Speaker 1: Like you gotta say deal because if you don't say deal,
• 2:36:40
  Speaker 1: she's kind of like you moment like noah, Noah, you
• 2:36:43
  Speaker 1: said deal. We said five minutes. So we got to
• 2:36:45
  Speaker 1: get out now.
• 2:36:46
  Speaker 2: So stuff like that mean something. Yeah, I'm gonna start
• 2:36:50
  Speaker 2: the timer right now exactly.
• 2:36:52
  Speaker 1: And then when I bring in the time when it's
• 2:36:54
  Speaker 1: going off, I make sure I see that it's going off,
• 2:36:56
  Speaker 1: like showing her yeah, like it's going off. She's like okay,
• 2:37:00
  Speaker 1: and like okay, we're good. We're good for the rest
• 2:37:01
  Speaker 1: of the night. Then like it's just funny, bro, it's crazy,
• 2:37:05
  Speaker 1: like the party stuff. Like, so she had this little
• 2:37:08
  Speaker 1: thing like, well, she's in her big girl bed, so
• 2:37:13
  Speaker 1: she could get out of her bed anytime now, Like
• 2:37:15
  Speaker 1: her room is upstairs and my room was downstairs, and
• 2:37:17
  Speaker 1: like the past couple of the nights, like I wake up,
• 2:37:19
  Speaker 1: I turned around, She's dead in my face. I'm like, yo,
• 2:37:22
  Speaker 1: like what are you doing? Like you don't supposed to
• 2:37:24
  Speaker 1: be like you gotta stay in your bed, you know
• 2:37:25
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Because like we got this little thing.
• 2:37:27
  Speaker 4: It was like.
• 2:37:29
  Speaker 1: It's a sound machine, but she don't like the sound.
• 2:37:32
  Speaker 1: So once the light go turn green, then you can
• 2:37:34
  Speaker 1: get out to bed. So she get out to bed
• 2:37:36
  Speaker 1: before that, and she'd be coming downstairs like like saying,
• 2:37:40
  Speaker 1: like just talking. I'm like, yo, like if the light
• 2:37:43
  Speaker 1: didn't come on, so like what are you doing?
• 2:37:44
  Speaker 2: Whatever?
• 2:37:45
  Speaker 1: And sometimes she get out of bed because she be
• 2:37:48
  Speaker 1: scared to go pee. But when I take her back
• 2:37:51
  Speaker 1: to her room, walk her back to her room, I
• 2:37:52
  Speaker 1: look in the bathroom, She's on pee already. So I'm like, yo,
• 2:37:55
  Speaker 1: like what are you doing?
• 2:37:56
  Speaker 2: Why do you get out of your bed?
• 2:37:57
  Speaker 1: And then she just started making up these excuses and
• 2:38:00
  Speaker 1: stuff like that, and it just be it just be hilarious. Bro,
• 2:38:02
  Speaker 1: She's trying to get in some dad. Yeah, but no,
• 2:38:05
  Speaker 1: Dad is sleeping. It's two three in the morning. It's
• 2:38:08
  Speaker 1: time always two or three in the morning. I thought
• 2:38:12
  Speaker 1: you were just saying, like maybe wake up times like seven,
• 2:38:15
  Speaker 1: and she's in at like six o'clock. No, man, like
• 2:38:18
  Speaker 1: two three in the morning. She done went to the
• 2:38:19
  Speaker 1: bathroom already, p and then come downstairs like she can't
• 2:38:22
  Speaker 1: go back to sleep, Like, yes you can. Like she
• 2:38:25
  Speaker 1: got her a little sleep mask and like put your
• 2:38:28
  Speaker 1: sleep masks down and just go back to sleep masks. Yeah.
• 2:38:31
  Speaker 1: She liked having a lot the sleep mass the couple,
• 2:38:36
  Speaker 1: so it's so she she kind of like, don't go
• 2:38:39
  Speaker 1: to sleep without it.
• 2:38:41
  Speaker 2: But it's pretty cool. Bro, It's dope. I love it.
• 2:38:45
  Speaker 2: I love it, man, Just those little stay in her
• 2:38:47
  Speaker 2: bed until we come upstairs. Really yeah, I gotta tell
• 2:38:50
  Speaker 2: a little bit about that, Like Rue got a FaceTime.
• 2:38:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, like ru stay in her bed until you
• 2:38:58
  Speaker 2: guys her parents come up and gear so need to
• 2:39:00
  Speaker 2: do that too, yeah, because obviously you have to monitor
• 2:39:03
  Speaker 2: on and she gets like a little stir crazy Mama, dad,
• 2:39:06
  Speaker 2: dad come up and get me.
• 2:39:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:39:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, we'll be like doing her thing down
• 2:39:10
  Speaker 2: in the morning. Back we got to go up and
• 2:39:11
  Speaker 2: get real. Yeah, she kind of cursed me out sometimes,
• 2:39:13
  Speaker 2: like she she got a sleep mask, and of course
• 2:39:16
  Speaker 2: she's up there cursing you out. She screamed, dang.
• 2:39:19
  Speaker 1: You know me like, I don't want to walk upstairs
• 2:39:22
  Speaker 1: unless I have to. Yeah, And I speak to her
• 2:39:24
  Speaker 1: through the thing.
• 2:39:24
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what's wrong. She's like, come here, I need you.
• 2:39:28
  Speaker 2: What's going on? And I walk up there. It's like
• 2:39:30
  Speaker 2: I'm scared. I'm like.
• 2:39:35
  Speaker 1: She like, it's crazy.
• 2:39:37
  Speaker 2: Who got a problem falling off the bed while she's sleeping? Really? Yeah,
• 2:39:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know if she's like having dreams or moves around.
• 2:39:43
  Speaker 2: You'll hear a big thud and you're kind of looking
• 2:39:44
  Speaker 2: and she'ld just be sitting, just be sitting next to
• 2:39:47
  Speaker 2: her bed. You can get back in bed. But we
• 2:39:51
  Speaker 2: got this little some little bumpers on her bed so
• 2:39:54
  Speaker 2: she don't roll over. That's what we're thinking about doing, Yeah,
• 2:39:57
  Speaker 2: is getting some bumpies because she'll go down multiple times
• 2:39:59
  Speaker 2: off the week. She actually has in the last week,
• 2:40:01
  Speaker 2: but she'll go through these it feels like phases where
• 2:40:04
  Speaker 2: she's just falling out of the bed. She got too
• 2:40:07
  Speaker 2: many stuffed animals on the bed. Yeah, but hey, we
• 2:40:09
  Speaker 2: gotta stop sleeping next to so many. You got ten
• 2:40:11
  Speaker 2: let's cut let's cut the roster down the air. Yeah,
• 2:40:14
  Speaker 2: put two down at the end of the bed. Yeah,
• 2:40:15
  Speaker 2: put the particular ones that have to be in like
• 2:40:17
  Speaker 2: an order next to her.
• 2:40:18
  Speaker 1: Does she sleep with the book when you don't read
• 2:40:20
  Speaker 1: the book? Does she want to sometimes? Like there has
• 2:40:23
  Speaker 1: been times where she wants to read the book after
• 2:40:25
  Speaker 1: we leave. Yeah, it's like, hey, daddy can only do
• 2:40:27
  Speaker 1: one book or dad is only doing two books. If
• 2:40:29
  Speaker 1: you want to stay up and read due to your
• 2:40:31
  Speaker 1: little nightlight that you have, you can stay up and
• 2:40:33
  Speaker 1: read it if you want.
• 2:40:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty cool, man, Bro, It's crazy like when
• 2:40:37
  Speaker 2: then when you go downstairs and you start looking at
• 2:40:39
  Speaker 2: the things that she starts reading the book by herself
• 2:40:42
  Speaker 2: and then she put herself to sleep and stuff like that.
• 2:40:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty I love those moments.
• 2:40:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So what's next for Levante David in your career?
• 2:40:51
  Speaker 2: I'm assuming you can't you stay home and play and
• 2:40:53
  Speaker 2: see double now.
• 2:40:54
  Speaker 1: I mean obviously throughout that time, I'm a kind of
• 2:40:56
  Speaker 1: like brainstorm, kind of like figure out what I'm going
• 2:40:58
  Speaker 1: to do.
• 2:40:59
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 2:40:59
  Speaker 1: Obviously I'm doing a lot of media stuff. So you know,
• 2:41:03
  Speaker 1: throughout my career I wasn't big on media. But in
• 2:41:06
  Speaker 1: a sense, it's like, man, you love football, you still
• 2:41:09
  Speaker 1: want to be around the game. So you know, I
• 2:41:10
  Speaker 1: could easily, you know, you know, kind of like talk football,
• 2:41:15
  Speaker 1: you know, do certain things and kind of like give
• 2:41:17
  Speaker 1: them a little endpoint, some insight from from you know,
• 2:41:20
  Speaker 1: from my perspective. You know, fans love that stuff, former
• 2:41:22
  Speaker 1: players talking about football, give me ins and out and
• 2:41:24
  Speaker 1: things like that. So things like that, and then you know,
• 2:41:27
  Speaker 1: something that's that I thought about was getting to, you know,
• 2:41:29
  Speaker 1: in the business side of football, you know, getting scouting.
• 2:41:33
  Speaker 1: You know, maybe you know, maybe become a GM one day,
• 2:41:36
  Speaker 1: who knows, But there you go.
• 2:41:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we got Keckley calling back, Luke what are you
• 2:41:45
  Speaker 2: doing sitting on the bus right now? My boy? My boy?
• 2:41:55
  Speaker 2: What was you do? What was you doing earlier? I
• 2:41:57
  Speaker 2: appreciate the text responsors. I also appreciate that you saw
• 2:42:00
  Speaker 2: the videos and did take didn't take a personal you
• 2:42:03
  Speaker 2: know what what you call that honest sometimes Yeah, it's
• 2:42:10
  Speaker 2: like you're my guy. I gotta be hard on my guy,
• 2:42:13
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Just being honest. Yeah, like, oh,
• 2:42:17
  Speaker 2: they got my boy, look at what he's a liability
• 2:42:20
  Speaker 2: out there? Get him off walked And I walked. I'm like, hey, bro,
• 2:42:26
  Speaker 2: this ain't it's moving a little too fast for me.
• 2:42:29
  Speaker 2: Now you know what I was peddling, dude, I was moving.
• 2:42:33
  Speaker 4: I was feeling good. They ran like a post corner
• 2:42:35
  Speaker 4: post on me.
• 2:42:42
  Speaker 2: That just seemed fun. Though it was.
• 2:42:44
  Speaker 4: It was freaking awesome.
• 2:42:46
  Speaker 2: I'm hearing that you started training. You were I thought,
• 2:42:48
  Speaker 2: I want to say, Greg Olsen was breaking down saying
• 2:42:50
  Speaker 2: you were training for this.
• 2:42:51
  Speaker 4: I was legit training and I thought I was. I
• 2:42:54
  Speaker 4: thought I was killing it and I was.
• 2:42:57
  Speaker 7: I went and trained with these guys that were training
• 2:42:59
  Speaker 7: for the common Mind, and they're running ten year olds
• 2:43:02
  Speaker 7: sprints and I was.
• 2:43:02
  Speaker 2: Like, man, I will say.
• 2:43:08
  Speaker 1: I would say, you look good, man, you do look good.
• 2:43:10
  Speaker 1: He was moving like good, Bro, Well, yeah, you look good.
• 2:43:14
  Speaker 1: Your physique is still the same.
• 2:43:16
  Speaker 4: Hey man, I might look good, but doesn't.
• 2:43:20
  Speaker 2: We were having a conversation earlier and it was in
• 2:43:23
  Speaker 2: your opinion, Luke, who do you think deserved the twenty
• 2:43:26
  Speaker 2: thirteen Defensive Player of the Year.
• 2:43:28
  Speaker 4: I mean, he's sitting right next to you. You better
• 2:43:34
  Speaker 4: gass him up. Levante needs to.
• 2:43:37
  Speaker 2: Be in Yeah.
• 2:43:38
  Speaker 1: And my whole thing about that, Luke was just like
• 2:43:41
  Speaker 1: I didn't get no recognition about like four I'm going
• 2:43:44
  Speaker 1: to tell you.
• 2:43:45
  Speaker 4: Is I talked when I was we played you guys
• 2:43:47
  Speaker 4: in Tampa this year. I was talking to you guys
• 2:43:48
  Speaker 4: beat writer, and so your beat writer is the guy
• 2:43:51
  Speaker 4: that like bangs the table for you.
• 2:43:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:43:54
  Speaker 10: Yeah, And I said, when you get up there in
• 2:43:57
  Speaker 10: five years and you talk about Levonte, Yeah, only thing
• 2:44:00
  Speaker 10: that needs to get talked about is what if his
• 2:44:04
  Speaker 10: position didn't say OLB.
• 2:44:07
  Speaker 4: And it's a MLB.
• 2:44:10
  Speaker 2: I told you, I guess that's dude, that's real though. Yeah.
• 2:44:14
  Speaker 7: Yeah, because let's be honest, the guys that get selected
• 2:44:17
  Speaker 7: to go to the Pro Bowl in all Pro are
• 2:44:20
  Speaker 7: not off the ball linebackers. It's like the Marcus where
• 2:44:24
  Speaker 7: and like when everybody looks and it's like, oh DeMarcus
• 2:44:27
  Speaker 7: wor twelve sacks, they don't.
• 2:44:29
  Speaker 4: They don't look at literally look at nothing else.
• 2:44:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:44:33
  Speaker 7: So that's that's what I told your guy in Tampa's
• 2:44:35
  Speaker 7: like the argument needs to be Super Bowl Champ, would
• 2:44:39
  Speaker 7: you play fourteen years?
• 2:44:40
  Speaker 1: Fourteen?
• 2:44:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 2:44:42
  Speaker 4: He played fourteen years.
• 2:44:43
  Speaker 7: These are all his numbers, played with one team, was
• 2:44:47
  Speaker 7: a captain for this many years, And they're gonna be like, well,
• 2:44:51
  Speaker 7: he doesn't have this siouses and.
• 2:44:52
  Speaker 4: I would be like, that doesn't matter.
• 2:44:55
  Speaker 2: He played.
• 2:44:56
  Speaker 4: The only thing that was different was what his position said.
• 2:45:00
  Speaker 1: So I was telling them, you know how TD man,
• 2:45:03
  Speaker 1: TD used to talk about the same thing because we
• 2:45:04
  Speaker 1: both was considered olb's And then I remember one time
• 2:45:08
  Speaker 1: TD was like going hard about that because he was
• 2:45:11
  Speaker 1: getting he got snubbed for the Pro Bowl some years
• 2:45:13
  Speaker 1: because the ol the outside linebacker thing with the age
• 2:45:16
  Speaker 1: rushers and stuff like that. But that's a good point, man.
• 2:45:19
  Speaker 1: I ain't like if my position probably said MLB or
• 2:45:21
  Speaker 1: regular LB instead of OLB, maybe it would have been
• 2:45:25
  Speaker 1: saying something different right now.
• 2:45:26
  Speaker 7: The other thing too, is think about like this is
• 2:45:28
  Speaker 7: another argument too, is you got when you got paid.
• 2:45:32
  Speaker 7: You get paid as an off the bone line outside linebacker.
• 2:45:36
  Speaker 1: Right, yeah, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, you.
• 2:45:38
  Speaker 4: Should be making forty six and a half.
• 2:45:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah too, we're talking about how some dudes somebody like
• 2:45:48
  Speaker 2: shoot the league because they were like an edge rusher.
• 2:45:51
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean you're you're one hundred percent right
• 2:45:54
  Speaker 2: because everybody WI lean on like accolades and Pro Bowls,
• 2:45:56
  Speaker 2: all pros, not all the times that you got snubbed, yeh.
• 2:45:59
  Speaker 2: But even you you were first ballot, right, second ballot,
• 2:46:03
  Speaker 2: and then Bobby Wagner is going to get in and
• 2:46:05
  Speaker 2: people always use those grass like next to them, right,
• 2:46:08
  Speaker 2: like that's the table that everybody always stands on because
• 2:46:11
  Speaker 2: you were just in a bad media market.
• 2:46:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know what's the saying about that? Luke
• 2:46:14
  Speaker 1: obviously should have been first ballot. Him and Pat Willers,
• 2:46:17
  Speaker 1: in my opinion, should have been first ballot, but they
• 2:46:20
  Speaker 1: probably got snuff of being first ballot because they only
• 2:46:21
  Speaker 1: played eight years, which was which is like crazy, but
• 2:46:24
  Speaker 1: like in those eight years, du dudes was dominant guys
• 2:46:27
  Speaker 1: in the league. So it's like, what are you guys
• 2:46:29
  Speaker 1: really voting on? Are you really like you knocking people
• 2:46:32
  Speaker 1: because they didn't play a certain amount of years that's
• 2:46:34
  Speaker 1: why not first ballot and stuff like that. So that's
• 2:46:36
  Speaker 1: kind of like it like it just we know, there's
• 2:46:38
  Speaker 1: just so many games that go home. Yeah, because obviously
• 2:46:41
  Speaker 1: Luke your first ballot. Yeah all right, exactly, Yeah, yeah,
• 2:46:47
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 2:46:47
  Speaker 2: I cared about you the most. Yeah, but we were
• 2:46:49
  Speaker 2: just calling the bus balls. We had a fan question there.
• 2:46:51
  Speaker 2: They were asking Levante if you felt like he deserved
• 2:46:53
  Speaker 2: the twenty thirteen Defensive Player of the year when you
• 2:46:56
  Speaker 2: got in. There was a side by side and I
• 2:46:58
  Speaker 2: was like, let me give Luca shout show.
• 2:47:01
  Speaker 4: I think it was Bobby Bobby.
• 2:47:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and Boogie's point he was saying, what was your
• 2:47:10
  Speaker 2: stat line that year? I know you know it was.
• 2:47:12
  Speaker 1: It was one hundred and forty five tackles, seven sacks,
• 2:47:16
  Speaker 1: five interceptions.
• 2:47:17
  Speaker 2: That's pretty strong, two forced fumbles, two defensive touchdowns, twenty
• 2:47:24
  Speaker 2: one tackles for loss.
• 2:47:26
  Speaker 4: Will That's what you need to.
• 2:47:27
  Speaker 7: Talk about with with Avante too, is all the productions
• 2:47:31
  Speaker 7: he had behind the line of scrimmage.
• 2:47:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was even alluding to it when they have
• 2:47:37
  Speaker 2: the list since they've kept track of the tackles for
• 2:47:39
  Speaker 2: loss since like a certain period. He's the only inside
• 2:47:42
  Speaker 2: backer to be in the top fifteen, top five, well
• 2:47:46
  Speaker 2: top five, but only inside. Yeah. The next one was
• 2:47:49
  Speaker 2: what yeah, yeah, Oh, we're gonna we're gonna be pounding
• 2:47:53
  Speaker 2: the table. We'll have you like we'll have us, We'll
• 2:47:56
  Speaker 2: have you within the media. Then we'll have a lot
• 2:47:59
  Speaker 2: of people. We're gonna get to go. We're gonna get
• 2:48:03
  Speaker 2: to go. Jacket Ev Oh, yeah, he's a baller.
• 2:48:07
  Speaker 4: Do you think do you think Taylor ever blocked him.
• 2:48:11
  Speaker 2: Taylor ever, Blockie, he never got hands on.
• 2:48:13
  Speaker 1: I never felt Taylor before.
• 2:48:15
  Speaker 2: Like Taylor probably had like, okay, I gotta go up
• 2:48:17
  Speaker 2: to five to four. You know, Bugie probably slipped him.
• 2:48:21
  Speaker 4: He probably he probably made a line called make them.
• 2:48:24
  Speaker 2: He said, you're the man, Luke. I appreciate you getting
• 2:48:31
  Speaker 2: back to me. It would have been a tough look.
• 2:48:33
  Speaker 2: See you. Bro's a great dude. Yeah, great dude. Man.
• 2:48:37
  Speaker 1: I've been a fan of Luke since college.
• 2:48:39
  Speaker 7: Bro.
• 2:48:39
  Speaker 2: We got to call him back after to see what
• 2:48:41
  Speaker 2: he was gonna say. What trim that part out?
• 2:48:44
  Speaker 1: But yeah, man, like Luke Bobby talk about the linebacker class, Bro,
• 2:48:48
  Speaker 1: like it's a scrolling class, like it's being brought up now.
• 2:48:52
  Speaker 1: But who got drafted ahead of you? Your class? So
• 2:48:55
  Speaker 1: it was Luke, it was the U, Dante how Tower,
• 2:49:01
  Speaker 1: stud Michael Kendricks, Zach Brown, Bobby, and then me.
• 2:49:09
  Speaker 2: Damn that is a strong class.
• 2:49:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:49:11
  Speaker 1: And then we had the Mario was in that class.
• 2:49:15
  Speaker 1: You had the Mario Davis and Mario Davis. Uh Man
• 2:49:19
  Speaker 1: me to Mario and Bobby playing on the same Sea
• 2:49:21
  Speaker 1: Bowl team. Man, Bobby was roommates and Sea Bowl. So
• 2:49:25
  Speaker 1: that's how relationship started. He's a stud to the start too.
• 2:49:28
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 2:49:29
  Speaker 1: That's like great, dude, bro, because he was about to
• 2:49:31
  Speaker 1: do fifteen and yeah, he about to do fifteen.
• 2:49:33
  Speaker 2: I want him.
• 2:49:33
  Speaker 1: I think he should do fifteen. I want him to
• 2:49:35
  Speaker 1: break that record tackle record. I mean he's like he's
• 2:49:38
  Speaker 1: built like an action figure. He's built like he's been
• 2:49:43
  Speaker 1: built that way since his rookie year. I nothing don't change. Yeah,
• 2:49:46
  Speaker 1: he got them long arms.
• 2:49:48
  Speaker 2: Like damn, Bobby, what should be.
• 2:49:50
  Speaker 1: Doing all season?
• 2:49:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're talking about you maybe diving into some media.
• 2:49:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah uh yeah, I think, you know, just to be
• 2:49:58
  Speaker 1: around the game of football still, just because our we
• 2:50:00
  Speaker 1: love the game of football. I love sports in general.
• 2:50:02
  Speaker 1: But for me to like actually been a player and
• 2:50:04
  Speaker 1: play at a high level and actually like play forty
• 2:50:06
  Speaker 1: teen years at in the game and kind of give
• 2:50:08
  Speaker 1: a little insight of you know, what I see and
• 2:50:11
  Speaker 1: stuff like that, I think it'll be pretty cool for
• 2:50:13
  Speaker 1: you know, me to kind of like continue in that aspect.
• 2:50:16
  Speaker 1: And then I said, I mentioned going to scouting, maybe
• 2:50:19
  Speaker 1: you know, working in the front office role and stuff
• 2:50:21
  Speaker 1: like that. I think it'll be cool.
• 2:50:23
  Speaker 2: Oh as far as the business side they're talking about, Yeah,
• 2:50:25
  Speaker 2: Ben inside see if you like the scouting.
• 2:50:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, people say you don't think you'd be a coach.
• 2:50:30
  Speaker 2: I don't think I can get into coaching, bro, why not?
• 2:50:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know.
• 2:50:38
  Speaker 1: I like my time, honestly, Yeah, yeah, I like my time.
• 2:50:43
  Speaker 2: But couldn't couldn't scouting be the same way? I think?
• 2:50:49
  Speaker 2: I feel like it if like if you're in the
• 2:50:51
  Speaker 2: if you're in the machine, yeah, football, I feel like
• 2:50:55
  Speaker 2: with scouting, bro, I feel like if you're a college scout,
• 2:50:58
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 2:50:58
  Speaker 1: I mean I could be correct on it. I feel
• 2:50:59
  Speaker 1: like you a college scout. I think it's more busy
• 2:51:01
  Speaker 1: than being a pro scout because college scout you have
• 2:51:04
  Speaker 1: to have to, you know, travel out and scout certain regions,
• 2:51:07
  Speaker 1: scout all these teams have all these drops and certain players.
• 2:51:10
  Speaker 1: But I think in a pro scout, and I'm not sure,
• 2:51:12
  Speaker 1: there's just what I feel like in pro scout and
• 2:51:14
  Speaker 1: they just give you a list of guys when it
• 2:51:16
  Speaker 1: comes up the free agency and stuff like that. Just
• 2:51:17
  Speaker 1: study these guys and see who fit fit with a
• 2:51:20
  Speaker 1: fit out scheme and stuff like that.
• 2:51:22
  Speaker 2: But what would you if you're saying you want to
• 2:51:24
  Speaker 2: get into pro scouting, what would be the end goal
• 2:51:26
  Speaker 2: if you wanted to get in there.
• 2:51:27
  Speaker 1: I don't want to be a gym. I want to
• 2:51:28
  Speaker 1: be a gym. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, there was
• 2:51:30
  Speaker 1: your life. I mean I'll be a little older by then,
• 2:51:34
  Speaker 1: I'll be you know, I probably won't, but.
• 2:51:37
  Speaker 2: To climb, Yeah, to get there, Like, think about the
• 2:51:40
  Speaker 2: time commitment you had to be one of the best
• 2:51:42
  Speaker 2: of all time. Think about the time commitment of anybody
• 2:51:44
  Speaker 2: who's trying to be great at their craft in football,
• 2:51:47
  Speaker 2: Like all the time you have to put into Like,
• 2:51:49
  Speaker 2: it'd be no different really in any job if you're
• 2:51:51
  Speaker 2: trying to get like to the trying to be like,
• 2:51:54
  Speaker 2: if you're really trying to be the best, like you
• 2:51:56
  Speaker 2: sacrifice a lot more than just whatever the structure is called.
• 2:52:01
  Speaker 2: Like the nine to five of being a pro scout.
• 2:52:03
  Speaker 2: If you were trying to eventually be a GM, Like
• 2:52:06
  Speaker 2: you're not looking at a nine to five job and
• 2:52:08
  Speaker 2: then you're just gonna get promoted to one day be
• 2:52:09
  Speaker 2: a GM. You be pouring into it in such a
• 2:52:11
  Speaker 2: way to where all of your hours are dedicated to
• 2:52:14
  Speaker 2: one day becoming a GM.
• 2:52:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that that talk. I have to have
• 2:52:18
  Speaker 1: a talk with my family when that time comes. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 2:52:22
  Speaker 1: so I already think of it that deep, but it
• 2:52:24
  Speaker 1: just but it's something that I may venture into.
• 2:52:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel that you got to think about the
• 2:52:29
  Speaker 2: next five years. Yeah, I was just talking White about this.
• 2:52:31
  Speaker 2: He's the new head coach in North County football. You
• 2:52:33
  Speaker 2: got to think of what you want to be in
• 2:52:34
  Speaker 2: five years, you know what I mean. So you didn't
• 2:52:36
  Speaker 2: think about it that deep, but you got to think
• 2:52:38
  Speaker 2: about it deep. Yeah, right, just before I keep going, Man,
• 2:52:42
  Speaker 2: come on, you got it. Media wise though, you know,
• 2:52:45
  Speaker 2: you know somebody's got a few different shows you could
• 2:52:47
  Speaker 2: spot on too. Yeah, I can't. I can't.
• 2:52:50
  Speaker 1: I pop out in Nazia a couple couple of times
• 2:52:52
  Speaker 1: out of the year. Yeah, you said, where we get
• 2:52:55
  Speaker 1: a Nebraska recap show going tomorrow? You know that's what
• 2:53:00
  Speaker 1: That's what. That's what I need to go. I need
• 2:53:02
  Speaker 1: to go back to Nebraska. You need to pour into
• 2:53:04
  Speaker 1: the Husker fans.
• 2:53:05
  Speaker 6: I do.
• 2:53:06
  Speaker 2: They love you, they do.
• 2:53:07
  Speaker 1: And it was a point in my career, like you know,
• 2:53:10
  Speaker 1: on Sunday Night football you say or like your high school,
• 2:53:13
  Speaker 1: your college, whatever you say, And it was it was
• 2:53:15
  Speaker 1: a time like I never said Nebraska. I know why
• 2:53:19
  Speaker 1: it was just no reason, Like I just I wanted
• 2:53:21
  Speaker 1: to say my league, like I wanted to say my
• 2:53:23
  Speaker 1: high school, like I wanted to say those things, and
• 2:53:26
  Speaker 1: like I didn't know it was because I'm not on Twitter, right, So.
• 2:53:31
  Speaker 2: Are you back on? There's people that tag you that's
• 2:53:33
  Speaker 2: not me. Okay, that's break, that's not me.
• 2:53:37
  Speaker 1: So like I see like little stuff, like people send
• 2:53:40
  Speaker 1: me stuff and I see like like some people I
• 2:53:43
  Speaker 1: figured out on Instagram, dudes, you know, comment on some
• 2:53:46
  Speaker 1: of my pictures of like do you hate the Huskers?
• 2:53:48
  Speaker 1: Like why you never say the name of them? And
• 2:53:49
  Speaker 1: I'm like, well, damn, I didn't think it was that
• 2:53:51
  Speaker 1: that deep or whatever. But I got nothing to love
• 2:53:55
  Speaker 1: for the Husker fans.
• 2:53:56
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 2:53:56
  Speaker 1: I wrapped those guys every time.
• 2:53:58
  Speaker 2: Do you want us to win the national title?
• 2:54:00
  Speaker 4: I do.
• 2:54:00
  Speaker 2: You gotta understand the role that you can play into
• 2:54:04
  Speaker 2: helping Nebraska out.
• 2:54:05
  Speaker 1: You think me speaking could help Nebraska?
• 2:54:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Really, Well I wouldn't say I got him to Nebraska,
• 2:54:15
  Speaker 2: but like you carry an influence. You can bring eyes
• 2:54:20
  Speaker 2: and attention to Nebraska, like you were one of the
• 2:54:22
  Speaker 2: best to touch the grass.
• 2:54:23
  Speaker 1: On defense, I mean, we've got a couple of Miami
• 2:54:26
  Speaker 1: guys on the team right now, Vicious Shavers, I'm really
• 2:54:28
  Speaker 1: type with e Vince.
• 2:54:29
  Speaker 2: He's stud.
• 2:54:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he just stood. I don't know Jacob Barney, but
• 2:54:34
  Speaker 1: he from down that way.
• 2:54:35
  Speaker 2: Barney's just stud.
• 2:54:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just so.
• 2:54:38
  Speaker 2: But imagine like we're trying to recruit a guy and
• 2:54:41
  Speaker 2: they hear from Levonte David. Think what that would do
• 2:54:45
  Speaker 2: to your side if you were the recruit.
• 2:54:48
  Speaker 1: You're right, you got the point. You got the point.
• 2:54:52
  Speaker 2: So when you were boosting them, like all the young athletes,
• 2:54:55
  Speaker 2: he was like, y'all want to be like I want
• 2:54:56
  Speaker 2: to be like fucking Levonte David, all the backers, defensive players,
• 2:55:00
  Speaker 2: whoever you inspire right as a young athlete, you are
• 2:55:04
  Speaker 2: this young athlete who is somebody you looked up.
• 2:55:06
  Speaker 1: To growing up, probably say Patrick Willis.
• 2:55:11
  Speaker 2: Patrick Willis, let's just use him. But the way Patrick
• 2:55:14
  Speaker 2: Willis moves, if he's literally on the if he's on
• 2:55:17
  Speaker 2: the hill talking about old miss all the time and
• 2:55:19
  Speaker 2: old missus in front of your face all the time,
• 2:55:20
  Speaker 2: through his influence on social through when he speaks about it,
• 2:55:23
  Speaker 2: you think like, damn, I want to be in the
• 2:55:26
  Speaker 2: next Patrick Willis. You were in that spot for any
• 2:55:30
  Speaker 2: of this younger generation, Like we're trying to win a Natty.
• 2:55:33
  Speaker 2: You might not be able to be on the field
• 2:55:37
  Speaker 2: with them and make plays and impact the game, but
• 2:55:40
  Speaker 2: you impact the game in another way that goes beyond
• 2:55:43
  Speaker 2: the field.
• 2:55:43
  Speaker 4: Bro.
• 2:55:44
  Speaker 1: See just me being outside of football now for a
• 2:55:46
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks, I understand that though I ain't know that.
• 2:55:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, which it all funnels to the impact being made
• 2:55:51
  Speaker 2: on the field. Okay, because we get laying a couple
• 2:55:55
  Speaker 2: of guys, got a good pitch, come on, hey, that's
• 2:55:59
  Speaker 2: legit though. Yeah, yeah, I've been watching him, been.
• 2:56:03
  Speaker 1: Doing a really good job. I love that they got
• 2:56:06
  Speaker 1: you on the Jumbo Trump when he's coming out and
• 2:56:09
  Speaker 1: stuff like.
• 2:56:09
  Speaker 2: I appreciate that. That could be you a couple time
• 2:56:12
  Speaker 2: flying this year to Nationale to do buzzing. It would
• 2:56:15
  Speaker 2: be me and you making a hype video. I could
• 2:56:17
  Speaker 2: do it as good as you, though, When you got
• 2:56:20
  Speaker 2: guys like this behind you, Yeah, they'll get you to
• 2:56:22
  Speaker 2: do anything great. Yeah, did a really good job bro,
• 2:56:26
  Speaker 2: probably on that man.
• 2:56:27
  Speaker 1: But I will say this, I always seeing Will doing
• 2:56:31
  Speaker 1: something like this just because your personality, Like when people
• 2:56:34
  Speaker 1: will be like, man, you know they asked me like
• 2:56:36
  Speaker 1: will your boy in college, Like, yeah, man, that was
• 2:56:38
  Speaker 1: my guy, And like, honestly, there's no surprise that he's
• 2:56:41
  Speaker 1: like doing stuff like this. You know, you're like you
• 2:56:45
  Speaker 1: being genuinely you. You know what I'm saying.
• 2:56:47
  Speaker 2: I appreciate that.
• 2:56:47
  Speaker 1: I'm glad you didn't switch up a change only thing.
• 2:56:49
  Speaker 1: You changed your teeth. But that's cool.
• 2:56:51
  Speaker 2: I had you already know I had. At first, It's
• 2:56:55
  Speaker 2: like everybody's like, damn, why'd you change? Why did you
• 2:56:57
  Speaker 2: get to the fake tees? And now that we've gotten
• 2:56:59
  Speaker 2: years removed, we're now like seven years removed. You look
• 2:57:01
  Speaker 2: back at some of them photos, I'm like, god, damn,
• 2:57:06
  Speaker 2: I was telling the boys. I forget who was in there,
• 2:57:07
  Speaker 2: but I was like Levante was there when I gave
• 2:57:09
  Speaker 2: like my first like speech in front of the team.
• 2:57:11
  Speaker 2: Before that I would get instead of like hands are sweaty,
• 2:57:15
  Speaker 2: I was like shaking internally. But we had some good times,
• 2:57:20
  Speaker 2: bro it some great times.
• 2:57:21
  Speaker 1: Bro it was that was that was a fun time
• 2:57:24
  Speaker 1: to be Like college locker room ate nothing like the
• 2:57:26
  Speaker 1: NFL locker room.
• 2:57:27
  Speaker 2: No, you're just in it in a different in a
• 2:57:31
  Speaker 2: different way like in the NFL. Like when you were young,
• 2:57:34
  Speaker 2: You're you're assuming there's gonna be like the groups of
• 2:57:36
  Speaker 2: guys stick together, guys are all dying for ball like
• 2:57:40
  Speaker 2: it's the best. Then you learn about vets who have families,
• 2:57:43
  Speaker 2: and it's just not like they can't. Yeah. Yeah, because
• 2:57:48
  Speaker 2: you you got to become unk. You got to become
• 2:57:50
  Speaker 2: the og or the old head who family or other priorities,
• 2:57:52
  Speaker 2: so you can't partake or run around with the fellas.
• 2:57:56
  Speaker 2: Whereas in college, like you're all doing the same thing
• 2:57:58
  Speaker 2: all the time together everyone we go, we always together.
• 2:58:01
  Speaker 2: That was pretty pretty good moment. Are you down Do
• 2:58:04
  Speaker 2: you live close to the University of Miami about forty
• 2:58:09
  Speaker 2: five minutes away. We're going to be down there for
• 2:58:10
  Speaker 2: the spring tour. Yeah, man, next week, right, I might.
• 2:58:14
  Speaker 2: I might when you down there, I might pop out
• 2:58:16
  Speaker 2: down there. Eight Yeah, like the seventh or ninth range.
• 2:58:22
  Speaker 2: I think we're on because yeah, because we're on a
• 2:58:24
  Speaker 2: Notre Dame and then we'll go down to Miami.
• 2:58:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so next Thursday, all my homies, all my homeboys,
• 2:58:31
  Speaker 1: they play down there, so sometimes they go out to
• 2:58:32
  Speaker 1: the Spring President and stuff like that. So I kind
• 2:58:35
  Speaker 1: of like, I like we kind of like like past
• 2:58:38
  Speaker 1: couple years we've been going down there, to kind of
• 2:58:40
  Speaker 1: like watch our practice or whatever. So true.
• 2:58:42
  Speaker 2: There ye out what to get you going on this
• 2:58:45
  Speaker 2: media on the media side.
• 2:58:48
  Speaker 1: I ain't trying to jump in.
• 2:58:49
  Speaker 2: I know you're not. I'm not saying you need to
• 2:58:51
  Speaker 2: jump into it. I'm just saying there's gonna be a
• 2:58:53
  Speaker 2: war coming five years from now. Yeah, and then the
• 2:58:57
  Speaker 2: years all following after that, and the only gonna be
• 2:59:00
  Speaker 2: there's there's gonna be my war, a war Lavonte David
• 2:59:04
  Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame, gotcha. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, listen,
• 2:59:09
  Speaker 2: I'll be the guy that's down the road.
• 2:59:11
  Speaker 1: You know, you and Gerald been going really hard.
• 2:59:13
  Speaker 2: We go hard. Yeah, I see you. I respect this
• 2:59:16
  Speaker 2: game he does because he had to play with you.
• 2:59:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Gerald, my god man, the Jerald took me in
• 2:59:22
  Speaker 1: his wing as soon as I got there.
• 2:59:23
  Speaker 2: Him and e J. Biggers, you know, bro, because yeah
• 2:59:27
  Speaker 2: in Washington yea, yeah, yeah, I love j my god man,
• 2:59:29
  Speaker 2: great dude, bro, like e J kind of like you
• 2:59:33
  Speaker 2: got me, found my ma, suskind, found my house cleaner,
• 2:59:36
  Speaker 2: you know, stuff like that.
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  Speaker 1: So that's my guy.
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  Speaker 2: Man. Is he coaching still?
• 2:59:39
  Speaker 1: I know he was coaching. I believe he's coaching I'm
• 2:59:42
  Speaker 1: Martin North Beach and he do kind of like a
• 2:59:45
  Speaker 1: little bit of training on the side.
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  Speaker 2: Got you So I love DJ Bro Yeah, great dude, man,
• 2:59:50
  Speaker 2: great dude. How you feel about Mike Evans he's still going. Yeah?
• 2:59:55
  Speaker 2: That did that play into your decision all teammates coming
• 2:59:58
  Speaker 2: back if the team was going to stay together, Yeah,
• 3:00:00
  Speaker 2: to play a fifteenth year for you, knowing that Mike
• 3:00:02
  Speaker 2: was going to go and do you know be with
• 3:00:05
  Speaker 2: a different team.
• 3:00:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I would say, no, it didn't play
• 3:00:07
  Speaker 1: no effecting my decision at all. And going to last season,
• 3:00:11
  Speaker 1: I told Mike it might be a chance that I
• 3:00:13
  Speaker 1: retire at the end of the season. So he tested
• 3:00:14
  Speaker 1: me by saying, man, let's make this one.
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  Speaker 2: A great one.
• 3:00:17
  Speaker 1: So at first it started out great and then it
• 3:00:19
  Speaker 1: kind of like ended different way. But it was already
• 3:00:22
  Speaker 1: in my mind that retirement was going to be, you know,
• 3:00:25
  Speaker 1: a possible thing, and you know, and then as far
• 3:00:28
  Speaker 1: as the Mike thing, you know, kind of surprising, I
• 3:00:33
  Speaker 1: would say, but in a sense it is like knowing
• 3:00:37
  Speaker 1: Mike man, you know the competitive guy he is, and
• 3:00:40
  Speaker 1: you know how he is as a person. I think
• 3:00:42
  Speaker 1: you know, Mike was probably looking for a different challenge,
• 3:00:45
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, honestly, obviously, you know
• 3:00:47
  Speaker 1: he did above and beyond with Tim Baker in the
• 3:00:50
  Speaker 1: community and for the team, so maybe he just wanted
• 3:00:53
  Speaker 1: just looking for you know, different out and stuff like that.
• 3:00:56
  Speaker 1: You know, I told him congratulations on whatever it is
• 3:00:58
  Speaker 1: that you know, his decision and stuff like that, But
• 3:01:01
  Speaker 1: to actually understand and know what he did, I didn't
• 3:01:04
  Speaker 1: get into that because I you know, I don't want
• 3:01:06
  Speaker 1: to bottle them and he probably already taking a lot
• 3:01:07
  Speaker 1: of slack and stuff like that. People kind of like
• 3:01:10
  Speaker 1: some people were just crazy looking at him like like,
• 3:01:12
  Speaker 1: dang man, you switched out on us like that. But
• 3:01:16
  Speaker 1: you can't really you know, you already you an'tready know
• 3:01:18
  Speaker 1: what came to the decision of him actually like wanted
• 3:01:21
  Speaker 1: to just you know, get away and you know, try
• 3:01:23
  Speaker 1: a different experience.
• 3:01:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and as a player too, like I'm sure with
• 3:01:27
  Speaker 2: like Mike playing for the forty nine ers, it had
• 3:01:29
  Speaker 2: to be like a certain situation that he wanted to
• 3:01:31
  Speaker 2: go into. Yeah, you feel like all this team could
• 3:01:34
  Speaker 2: could go the whole way. Not that he's saying like, oh,
• 3:01:37
  Speaker 2: we're not going to go the whole way, right, but
• 3:01:38
  Speaker 2: there's a player. When you're making some of those decisions,
• 3:01:40
  Speaker 2: especially late in your career, you're like, man, I really
• 3:01:42
  Speaker 2: don't have a whole lot of time left. Yeah, and
• 3:01:45
  Speaker 2: then you just get in the right you see the
• 3:01:47
  Speaker 2: right situation. It's like it's nothing personal, Like he's gonna
• 3:01:50
  Speaker 2: love being a bucket. He's gonna probably come back and
• 3:01:52
  Speaker 2: retire a buccantt yeah for exactly. And then the thing
• 3:01:55
  Speaker 2: is too like it's not like he left the Bucks
• 3:01:57
  Speaker 2: in a terrible place. Like the receiver room is a
• 3:01:59
  Speaker 2: very very talent receiving room. Like you still got Chris.
• 3:02:02
  Speaker 1: Godwin there, you got a Mecca who emerged, you got
• 3:02:06
  Speaker 1: you got Tam Johnson, you got uh J Max still there,
• 3:02:10
  Speaker 1: you still got a good core guys, who can you know?
• 3:02:13
  Speaker 1: Still you know keep that standing in that room. Yeah, yeah, Yeah,
• 3:02:18
  Speaker 1: he's a beast to.
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  Speaker 7: Have.
• 3:02:20
  Speaker 2: We covered everything. Boys, do you feel good? We got
• 3:02:23
  Speaker 2: a bud light question for you. It's the same bud
• 3:02:24
  Speaker 2: light question you had last time. People do anything for
• 3:02:26
  Speaker 2: a nice, cool bud light. And then all you have
• 3:02:29
  Speaker 2: to answer is, now that you're retired, Yeah, now that
• 3:02:31
  Speaker 2: you're on the other side of it, what what would
• 3:02:33
  Speaker 2: what would Levonte do anything for. What would Levante do
• 3:02:40
  Speaker 2: anything for? That's kind of like a crazy question. I
• 3:02:43
  Speaker 2: can't say family Taylor. That's a stipulation that Taylor is
• 3:02:46
  Speaker 2: in there. You can't say your daughter. We would I
• 3:02:49
  Speaker 2: do anything for for?
• 3:02:51
  Speaker 7: What?
• 3:02:51
  Speaker 2: Like it can be anything. Bro last week Cam Jurgen's
• 3:02:56
  Speaker 2: husker h Yeah, he was just a sonic breakfast. Buriedo
• 3:03:00
  Speaker 2: hen't do anything for us. Brock Bowers was a steak.
• 3:03:06
  Speaker 2: George Ken said, But like some guys get deep, some
• 3:03:12
  Speaker 2: guys don't do.
• 3:03:16
  Speaker 1: I'll do anything for an authentic Italian dish, Italian meal.
• 3:03:20
  Speaker 2: Okay, we were talking some Italian cuisine out in Italy.
• 3:03:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love Italian food, and like like when we
• 3:03:28
  Speaker 1: went and I went to Italy, like I was looking
• 3:03:31
  Speaker 1: for those authentic Italian spots, like the ones I did
• 3:03:35
  Speaker 1: have was pretty good.
• 3:03:36
  Speaker 2: So like, ah experience I Leavonte, David the man was range,
• 3:03:43
  Speaker 2: come on, come on, you guys got anything for him? Good?
• 3:03:52
  Speaker 2: I was just I saw Shirm's eyes were kind of
• 3:03:55
  Speaker 2: off on the side, like his brain was going for.
• 3:03:59
  Speaker 8: I just love the y And both of these interviews
• 3:04:04
  Speaker 8: have been really really cool, really fun, even so closely
• 3:04:07
  Speaker 8: back to back you would think, oh, man, maybe we
• 3:04:09
  Speaker 8: covered everything in the first one, not at all. Like
• 3:04:12
  Speaker 8: the story is super compelling. You're very fun to talk to.
• 3:04:16
  Speaker 7: You.
• 3:04:16
  Speaker 2: Appreciate you awesome. Thank you, man, Appreciate you. You're the best. Man.
• 3:04:20
  Speaker 2: Appreciate thank you for coming on, especially the week after
• 3:04:23
  Speaker 2: Shout Out Buddha.
• 3:04:24
  Speaker 1: I know you wanted me to come on and announce
• 3:04:26
  Speaker 1: my retirement on here too, but I try to talk
• 3:04:32
  Speaker 1: to you about it too. I think one day I
• 3:04:34
  Speaker 1: tell you, what you going to the spring game? A
• 3:04:36
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. You did test back, but it
• 3:04:38
  Speaker 1: was late, so I was I already have my mind
• 3:04:40
  Speaker 1: made up.
• 3:04:41
  Speaker 2: What were you in the text? Because if you're saying, hey,
• 3:04:44
  Speaker 2: me asking if I'm going to the spring game, it
• 3:04:48
  Speaker 2: was going to lead into that because I thought about
• 3:04:51
  Speaker 2: going to the spring game this past weekend.
• 3:04:52
  Speaker 1: Right, yeah, because I was thought of like, hey, were
• 3:04:54
  Speaker 1: you going to go to the spring game and stuff
• 3:04:56
  Speaker 1: like that, and then like I was because I wasn't
• 3:04:57
  Speaker 1: initially going to say like my retirement.
• 3:04:59
  Speaker 2: To the end of the mon but like my mom
• 3:05:01
  Speaker 2: was kind of like made up already. I was like,
• 3:05:03
  Speaker 2: I'll just get out of the way.
• 3:05:04
  Speaker 1: But I was going to ask you and talk to
• 3:05:06
  Speaker 1: you about it, like, hey, what what the optics be? Yeah,
• 3:05:10
  Speaker 1: but then I probably was gonna shoot you down anyway, though,
• 3:05:12
  Speaker 1: to be honest.
• 3:05:14
  Speaker 2: That's honestly, it doesn't surprise me to get into the
• 3:05:16
  Speaker 2: Tampa Bay Buccaneers over busting with the boys. Fucking bullshit.
• 3:05:21
  Speaker 2: You did well. I felt like I was really I
• 3:05:26
  Speaker 2: had you where I wanted you when you asked for
• 3:05:28
  Speaker 2: those tickets at the Cincinnati game, Buddha, Yeah, that was one.
• 3:05:32
  Speaker 10: Well.
• 3:05:33
  Speaker 2: I didn't think about it until after the fact. Yeah,
• 3:05:35
  Speaker 2: but I was like, oh, I kind of did him
• 3:05:36
  Speaker 2: a solid right here. Excitedn't ask no questions. We'll get
• 3:05:39
  Speaker 2: you the tickets to Booda your agent. Yeah. I knew
• 3:05:41
  Speaker 2: nothing other than you're my boy. You're seeing if I
• 3:05:44
  Speaker 2: can get you a ticket for your agent. Let me
• 3:05:46
  Speaker 2: see if we can make it happen. Yeah. And then
• 3:05:49
  Speaker 2: once it happened and I was riding the car the
• 3:05:50
  Speaker 2: next day, that's where I had a tight win. I
• 3:05:54
  Speaker 2: was like, I need to spend this because this could
• 3:05:56
  Speaker 2: be Levante's last year. And I texted Levante. I was like,
• 3:05:59
  Speaker 2: you know, you're in my hip hop. Whatever you retire,
• 3:06:01
  Speaker 2: you have to do, don't Bustle with the Boys. But
• 3:06:04
  Speaker 2: we got you a week after. Yeah, Man, all love.
• 3:06:06
  Speaker 2: I appreciate you, Man, I appreciate you. You know it's
• 3:06:09
  Speaker 2: all love always forever. Yeah. Big a Big Bill doing
• 3:06:14
  Speaker 2: Big Bill's doing good. Big Bills jacked. Yeah Yeah, Big
• 3:06:17
  Speaker 2: Bills jacked. Okay, Okay, he's proud of he loves you.
• 3:06:21
  Speaker 2: Text me right away. Way and Cody, they're both good.
• 3:06:23
  Speaker 2: Cody's gearing up for a bachelor party. Whyett is now
• 3:06:26
  Speaker 2: the head coach North County Old High School? No, used
• 3:06:29
  Speaker 2: always mess away. Yeah, now he's a head coach.
• 3:06:33
  Speaker 7: Bro.
• 3:06:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So we've been talking, we've been strategizing.
• 3:06:38
  Speaker 1: Tell him, I say, what's up?
• 3:06:39
  Speaker 2: I will, I will, Bro. But love you. I appreciate you.
• 3:06:43
  Speaker 2: Big ogsdy kisses. Thank you everybody for tuning in. This
• 3:06:45
  Speaker 2: is Bustling with the Boys. We will see you next week.
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