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The O-Zone Podcast | Final Week 3 Rundown, Looking Around the League · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: The ozone welcome to the ozone podcast with jaguar's senior
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Speaker 1: writer john osher.
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Speaker 2: All right welcome into this tuesday ozone podcast i am
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Speaker 2: senior writer john osher uh from the hyundai studios along
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Speaker 2: with uh this week's guest analyst kai stevens uh kai
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Speaker 2: first of all thanks for doing this again And we're
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Speaker 2: talking about an impressive 35-6 win over the New England Patriots.
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Speaker 2: Looking ahead a little bit to the Cincinnati Bengals. But
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Speaker 2: the idea of the show is to do a deep dive.
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Speaker 2: So we're diving deep into the offense. What struck you
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Speaker 2: the most for me was the efficiency. And I think
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Speaker 2: Liam talked about it when he talked about it in
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Speaker 2: the presser, just how they were able to win in
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Speaker 2: different ways. And I think that's becoming maybe a trademark
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Speaker 2: of the offense. For me, it was spreading the wealth.
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Speaker 3: We've talked about how this offense operates best when they're
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Speaker 3: able to do that, and you have five different touchdown scores,
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Speaker 3: two running backs, three wide receivers. Trevor Lawrence was able
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Speaker 3: to spread the ball around, and Liam Cohen also pointed
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Speaker 3: out after that when talking to Bucky Brooks postgame on
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Speaker 3: the radio, it's easier for him to call a game
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Speaker 3: when they can do that because then they're not forcing
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Speaker 3: the issue in certain places. He can go with the
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Speaker 3: flow of the offense and work with what's working for
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Speaker 3: him in the moment.
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Speaker 4: How much do you think that was?
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Speaker 2: We talked a lot last week about how Trevor has
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Speaker 2: to be organic meaning throw to where the read is.
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Speaker 2: And yet that's the balance that Liam's still got to
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Speaker 2: get these guys involved.
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Speaker 4: I guess that's the art of this thing, right?
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Speaker 2: That you don't know how it's going to look beforehand,
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Speaker 2: but you have to be intentional and then just sort
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Speaker 2: of let it come.
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Speaker 4: To you, right?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and taking advantage of opportunities and allowing your players
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Speaker 3: to make the plays, right? In the Denver game, they
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Speaker 3: needed someone to step up. They had a bunch of
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Speaker 3: people that were able to step up in week three
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Speaker 3: and make a play in a crucial moment. that allowed
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Speaker 3: them to take a game that was kind of close
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Speaker 3: to start and then make it quickly out of a
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Speaker 3: bit of a blowout.
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Speaker 2: It's funny how with Trevor, it's almost like the two games,
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Speaker 2: he has two games this year where four and zero
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Speaker 2: against the Browns, three and zero against the Patriots, and
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Speaker 2: he wasn't even talked about after either game. Even after yesterday,
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Speaker 2: everybody was talking about the running game, the defense, Drake May,
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Speaker 2: not talking about Trevor. He's sort of reached that point,
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Speaker 2: hasn't he, where three touchdowns, no interceptions. Maybe a year
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Speaker 2: and a half ago, everybody was talking, oh, Trevor's turned
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Speaker 2: the corner. This is what you expect of him now,
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Speaker 2: and I think he's hit that where it's okay to
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Speaker 2: expect that.
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Speaker 3: It's a compliment, and that's because before, Trevor Lawrence would
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Speaker 3: make amazing plays and then make some poor decisions in
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Speaker 3: the same game. And it was frustrating to watch ever
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Speaker 3: since the back half of last season, continuing into this season,
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Speaker 3: he's consistent. He's confident. He runs at things smoothly. You
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Speaker 3: expect that turnover here and there happens to anybody. I
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Speaker 3: don't think that interception this week was even on him.
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Speaker 3: And now that's an expectation for this team going forward.
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Speaker 3: And it's not to take away from him, but it's like,
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he's great. We expect that.
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Speaker 2: Which again, that I can remember when I was covering
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Speaker 2: the Colts, uh, By the year seven or eight covering them,
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Speaker 2: at first, when Peyton won player of the week, it
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Speaker 2: was a big deal. By the end, you wrote it
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Speaker 2: in a press release, but he didn't even get asked
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Speaker 2: about it on his Wednesday conference. Everybody just assumed. Trevor's
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Speaker 2: not there, but working toward that is impressive, and it's
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Speaker 2: a big step for a quarterback now in his sixth year.
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Speaker 4: Defensive deep dive.
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Speaker 2: I'll sort of leave this one because something really struck
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Speaker 2: me listening to Liam on Monday. I didn't even realize
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Speaker 2: they're leading the league, meaning the Jaguars, in points allowed.
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Speaker 2: And it seems like with this defense, we fall into
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Speaker 2: the trap, we meaning those who observe the team, talking
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Speaker 2: about what it's not rather than what it is. And
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Speaker 2: I think it's time maybe to stop emphasizing what it's
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Speaker 2: not and realize against the Patriots, you saw it. That
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Speaker 2: team could not run. I think they wound up with
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Speaker 2: 80 or 90 yards, whatever it was. But it didn't
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Speaker 2: feel like it. I mean, it felt like this was
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Speaker 2: a defense that knew, we can stop that, and it
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Speaker 2: made them one-dimensional. Devon Hamilton's good, Trayvon Walker, Josh Hines out,
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Speaker 2: and they.
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Speaker 4: Have good players who play solidly.
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Speaker 2: They sort of remind me of what I thought the
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Speaker 2: Patriots defense was going to be.
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Speaker 3: And we need to give them some credit. Listen, they
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Speaker 3: can always be better. That's fine. But defense is never
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Speaker 3: going to be perfect, especially the way the offense is
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Speaker 3: focused upon in 2026 NFL football. I think our friend
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Speaker 3: Pete Prisco over at CBS Sports mentioned they haven't allowed
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Speaker 3: a 75-yard-plus rusher in something like 20 games because they've
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Speaker 3: been playing so well. And all of last year we
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Speaker 3: heard no 100-yard rushers, none of that, right? So all
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Speaker 3: of last season. So it's a hallmark for them. They
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Speaker 3: mean it. The things they emphasize they get in return.
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Speaker 3: Liam Cohen talked about this. But also Anthony Campanile very
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Speaker 3: much is about stopping the run first and eyes, which
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Speaker 3: is keeping your eyes on the football. And in that
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Speaker 3: comes takeaways. We saw a bunch of those. this week,
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Speaker 3: that's where they're getting that success from when they're allowing
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Speaker 3: themselves to look for the ball, take advantage of those plays.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think when you don't have the big
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Speaker 2: sack number, again, here I am talking about what they're not,
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Speaker 2: but this is what everybody emphasizes.
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Speaker 3: Yes, pass rush.
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Speaker 2: You know, it skews the fact that when you stop
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Speaker 2: the run the way they do, it seemed, usually when
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Speaker 2: you watch the NFL now, because I don't think teams
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Speaker 2: emphasize much of the Jags, you sort of assume runs
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Speaker 2: are going to be three and four yards, you know,
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Speaker 2: and Against this team, a run will start off and
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Speaker 2: you think it's going to be a good gain, and
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Speaker 2: then you look up and it's second and eight, and
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Speaker 2: then it's third and six, and you realize, oh, they're in.
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Speaker 4: A tough spot.
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Speaker 2: I like that, Kai, because that's something I feel like
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Speaker 2: you carry with you.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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Speaker 2: Sometimes teams can control you, how you rush the passer.
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Speaker 2: It's really hard for teams to dictate to you how
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Speaker 2: good you are at run defense, and they've proven it.
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Speaker 2: That is a foundation piece of this franchise.
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Speaker 3: We always say running the football is how you establish
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Speaker 3: an offense, get things going, and they're taking that away
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Speaker 3: from their opponents. It's the best you can hope for.
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Speaker 4: Give me your moment to remember from Sunday.
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Speaker 3: There's a couple. On the field, I will say Travis
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Speaker 3: Hunter's first interception because we made so much of it
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Speaker 3: last week. I think finally for him to go out there,
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Speaker 3: make an athletic play, showing his athletic ability, getting up
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Speaker 3: high to go get it, come down with it. And
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Speaker 3: then off the field, kind of trying to get the
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Speaker 3: football for him, which was funny. But on the field,
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Speaker 3: definitely Travis Hunter's interception.
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Speaker 2: I thought maybe your moment to remember might have come
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Speaker 2: in your family group chat.
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Speaker 4: I bet that was a little chaotic this week.
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Speaker 3: I will say my family's very realistic New England fans.
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Speaker 3: So they were kind of aware of the situation before
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Speaker 3: we went into it. My husband was a little upset
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Speaker 3: over it this morning, but we'll get over it. Through
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Speaker 3: the week, I think we'll pass on and then.
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Speaker 4: So good day for you. Great day for me. Okay, fantastic.
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Speaker 3: Because if it was the other way around, let me
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Speaker 3: tell you, I'd be having a terrible day. So, yes,
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Speaker 3: it's a good day for me.
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Speaker 2: For those of you who don't know, I grew up
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Speaker 2: New Englander.
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Speaker 3: Yes, married into a New Englander family as well, so
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Speaker 3: I get it from both sides.
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Speaker 4: So it's a lot.
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Speaker 2: Now we go to our segment on Tuesday, Liam Said What?
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Speaker 2: And this is Liam Cohen talking about Jaguars wide receiver–
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Speaker 2: Josh Cannon.
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Speaker 5: Just personality-wise, he's pretty quiet.
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Speaker 1: He knows about his business, but then you feel him
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Speaker 1: out on the grass, and I think that that's something
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Speaker 1: I do appreciate is play energy and play juice.
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Speaker 5: The little things that we coach in.
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Speaker 1: Terms of as a blocker on the perimeter getting last touch.
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Speaker 1: You might not make every single block as a receiver,
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Speaker 1: but if you're intentional about like right as the whistle's
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Speaker 1: blowing that you're getting last touch on the defender. That's
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Speaker 1: something we coach a lot and he does it pretty consistently,
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Speaker 1: you know?
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Speaker 5: So I think when you look at the guy, he's
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Speaker 5: just consistent.
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Speaker 1: He's just consistent in some, you know, so far he's
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Speaker 1: been trustworthy.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Kai, this is, I think we're starting to reach
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Speaker 2: the point where this is not sort of a Curious
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Speaker 2: little early season story. It's more of a trend for
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Speaker 2: Josh Cameron. We've worked together long enough. You know how
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Speaker 2: I feel about rookies. I sort of forget them until
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Speaker 2: year two for the most part, especially sixth-round rookies. We
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Speaker 2: talked about it in the opener when he caught his
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Speaker 2: touchdown pass. I may have to rethink this because all
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Speaker 2: of a sudden he's playing on the first, second series
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Speaker 2: that week. Around this franchise for a long, long time,
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Speaker 2: they did not draft and develop the way they needed to.
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Speaker 2: But this is a case... Again, it's showing how this
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Speaker 2: regime is approaching things. Six-round draft pick, he's going to
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Speaker 2: matter this year and make you better.
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Speaker 4: That's rare air for a rookie in the NFL.
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Speaker 2: You can talk about rookies all you want. For them
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Speaker 2: to really matter and contribute like this kid is, very impressive.
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Speaker 3: Three weeks in, he's had four targets, three catches, two touchdowns.
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Speaker 3: That's a pretty good line, plus not even counting what
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Speaker 3: he's done on special teams.
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Speaker 2: I was going to say, the two touchdowns are great,
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Speaker 2: That may not be what they value him most for yet.
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Speaker 3: He's been able to contribute on special teams, which if
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Speaker 3: you are a sixth round pick is something you have
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Speaker 3: to be able to do. Otherwise you're not going to
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Speaker 3: get on the field at all. So that has helped him.
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Speaker 3: And what I've been impressed with before even Liam got here,
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Speaker 3: this franchise has been looking for that big receive, big
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Speaker 3: body receiver that can be physical, has good hands and
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Speaker 3: can go get the ball. And that's what Josh Cameron
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Speaker 3: has done. And he, gets those touchdown catches those two
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Speaker 3: touchdown catches are in traffic those are places where he's
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Speaker 3: going to get hit or he's at risk of you
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Speaker 3: know if he bats the ball around at all someone
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Speaker 3: else is going to pick it off so those are
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Speaker 3: situations where you need to be sure-handed we've seen that
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Speaker 3: he's brought that obviously Liam Cohen thinks very highly of
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Speaker 3: him Trevor Lawrence has a lot of trust in him
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Speaker 3: these are all great signs.
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Speaker 2: Yeah I was uh like to talk about does it
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Speaker 2: translate and can you expect to keep getting it, like
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Speaker 2: when you see something in practice early season. To me,
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Speaker 2: he's reaching the point where, I'm not going to say
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Speaker 2: coordinators have to game plan for him. That's a higher level.
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Speaker 4: But you can't ignore him.
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Speaker 2: I mean, sometimes receivers come into situations where somebody gets hurt,
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Speaker 2: and you sort of know, okay, we have to worry
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Speaker 2: about one and two. Okay, we have to guard the
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Speaker 2: third guy, but he's not going to beat us We'll
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Speaker 2: give him that. I'm not sure defenses can give you
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Speaker 2: Josh Cameron anymore, which gives you, again, everybody's down on BTJ,
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Speaker 2: but you know you've got to cover him if he's
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Speaker 2: on the field or he can beat you. Four, five, six,
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Speaker 2: seven guys at the skill spot that coordinators have to
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Speaker 2: worry about.
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Speaker 4: It's real versatility that matters in this offense.
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Speaker 3: Parker Washington talking in the locker room after the game
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Speaker 3: on Sunday said, you know, They spread the ball around,
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Speaker 3: everybody's talented, and they all make great catches, right? They
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Speaker 3: all have that ability, and that's what's cool. It's like, oh,
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Speaker 3: maybe you go to someone else, but they're not the
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Speaker 3: first choice. All of them have tons of talent, and
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Speaker 3: they're really good hands for the most part. Even BTJ,
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Speaker 3: I know people can be down upon, but he's had
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Speaker 3: some explosive plays in big wins for this franchise. That,
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Speaker 3: I think, will come back into play a little bit
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Speaker 3: later on in the season. They're just going to work
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Speaker 3: out the snap count, because obviously they want to get
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Speaker 3: Josh Cameron on the field more, and that's what I
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Speaker 3: think they've been erring to, at least this week.
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Speaker 2: Well, Liam was asked in his call on Monday about
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Speaker 2: that and, you know, the message that you sent, whatever.
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Speaker 2: He said, really, we had a message to BTJ. Josh
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Speaker 2: Cameron needs snaps. He's going to get them. And he emphasized, hey,
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Speaker 2: we're going to need BTJ. Again, I go back to it.
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Speaker 2: The defensive coordinators might stop doubling BTJ. Do it at
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Speaker 2: your own risk because let him go and he can
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Speaker 2: be standing in your end zone.
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Speaker 4: So.
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Speaker 4: Interesting to see.
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Speaker 2: How this offense develops along those lines. Time for rankings, Kai.
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Speaker 3: All right, what you got?
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Speaker 2: People love rankings. Well, I went this week with Bills,
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Speaker 2: San Francisco, Kansas City, Philly, and Denver. Feels to me
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Speaker 2: like those are the solid teams. I brought the Jaguars
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Speaker 2: in at number seven. Move them up a little bit.
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Speaker 2: They're meaningless at this point, but.
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Speaker 4: The Bills are impressive.
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Speaker 2: I dropped Seattle down to six, but Seattle lost to
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Speaker 2: the Commanders. My gut is with Seattle, obviously they're really solid,
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Speaker 2: really good.
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Speaker 4: Coming across.
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Speaker 2: A West Coast team playing an East Coast team at
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Speaker 2: 1 o'clock, the Seattle loss, I'm not going to say
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Speaker 2: it didn't surprise.
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Speaker 4: Me, but historically... West.
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Speaker 2: Coast teams can get bit doing that. Seattle's been pretty
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Speaker 2: immune to it. That's what was surprising. They've been a
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Speaker 2: really good road team.
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Speaker 4: But that bites you a lot. A lot of really
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Speaker 4: good West.
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Speaker 2: Coast teams get bitten in that early game on the
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Speaker 2: East Coast.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Seattle had been not having an issue with that.
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Speaker 4: Unbelievable, yeah.
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Speaker 3: Jaguars were certainly a victim of it last season.
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Speaker 4: They turned the ball over a lot, too. Last season.
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Speaker 3: And you're not going to win football games that way.
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Speaker 3: But I think that it's still... despite what your top
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Speaker 3: five are, I don't disagree with it. I don't know
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Speaker 3: who's good yet. Like it's, it's very much week to week.
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Speaker 3: I'll look at the scores and like, you know, a
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Speaker 3: certain point in the season, you're like, Oh, this seems
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Speaker 3: like you can kind of expect certain things. There'll be upsets,
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Speaker 3: but like, I really don't know. I look every week
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Speaker 3: and I'm like, okay, like what is going on? Like
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Speaker 3: the Rams lose last night to the Broncos after Broncos
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Speaker 3: get blown out in week one on Monday at football.
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Speaker 3: It's like week to week is, is, is chaos. And
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Speaker 3: I love it.
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Speaker 4: We talk a.
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Speaker 2: Little bit on Jags AM about, uh, these first five
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Speaker 2: or six games. I've started thinking about this year is
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Speaker 2: you're sort of taking your machete and just sort of
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Speaker 2: trying to whack your way through the thicket and trying
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Speaker 2: to figure out and trying to come out on the
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Speaker 2: other side, four and two, three and three, knowing who
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Speaker 2: you are, healthy and ready to go. That's always felt
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Speaker 2: like a cliche. It really feels that way. And maybe
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Speaker 2: we're just learning it because now, for the first time
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Speaker 2: in a while, we're covering a team that we feel
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Speaker 2: like we know is good.
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Speaker 4: Mm-hmm. So you sort of feel like that's what the
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Speaker 4: Jaguars are doing right now.
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Speaker 2: Playing really well at home, didn't play great against Denver.
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Speaker 2: Liam talked about it on the call. Figuring out, hey guys,
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Speaker 2: our identity.
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Speaker 4: Is we have to practice well. We have to bring it.
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Speaker 4: We have to do this.
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Speaker 2: He talked about that being such a great reminder this week. Again,
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Speaker 2: that kind of feels like him being able to remind guys, hey,
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Speaker 2: remember what we are now. I know there's all this talk,
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Speaker 2: but last year when we were at our best, this
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Speaker 2: is how we were.
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Speaker 4: This is it again.
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Speaker 2: So Feels like this Jaguars team is, you know, I
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Speaker 2: don't think they're ever very far from their identity, but
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Speaker 2: it feels like they may have been reminded about that
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Speaker 2: on Sunday.
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Speaker 3: You can practice poorly and have a good game, but
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Speaker 3: that should be an exception, not the rule. You need
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Speaker 3: to be practicing well and feel comfortable in your game
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Speaker 3: plan before you go into a game and hope to execute,
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Speaker 3: and they got back to that this week.
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Speaker 4: Okay, give me your game ball.
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Speaker 3: Who would I give a game ball to?
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I'm going to go with the big man, Devon Hamilton,
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Speaker 3: because those tackles never get credit for anything. It's the
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Speaker 3: same as the O-line. You write the big guys don't
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Speaker 3: get any credit. It's good if they don't say your name.
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Speaker 3: But this week they said his name because he forced
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Speaker 3: a fumble and he got to roll over onto a
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Speaker 3: fumble from Drake May. So he did get on the
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Speaker 3: stat sheet in that regard. But also when we talk
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Speaker 3: about their run defense, that's Devon Hamilton in a nutshell.
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Speaker 3: He is the reason, the main reason why that run
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Speaker 3: defense is so good.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, to me, he symbolizes a lot about this team.
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Speaker 2: I mean, he shows up every week. If you talk
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Speaker 2: to people about Devon, never any worry about how he's preparing,
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Speaker 2: never any worry about his approach level. You don't really
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Speaker 2: think about him that much. I think Trayvon kind of
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Speaker 2: fits into that. Somebody asked him, why don't the Jays
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Speaker 2: get any credit? Well, people don't understand Trayvon Walker. They
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Speaker 2: don't understand why he's good. He's not a huge sack guy,
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Speaker 2: so they don't get him. Well, I think Devon fits
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Speaker 2: that too. Well, why is the Jaguars' defense good? Here's
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Speaker 2: what they're not. Well, they're good because you can't run
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Speaker 2: on these guys because Devon's really good because they make
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Speaker 2: plays behind them.
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Speaker 4: So I like that. I went with the offensive line.
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Speaker 2: Because they really got beat up, probably deservedly so after Denver.
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Speaker 2: And I thought overall this offensive line, you don't run.
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Speaker 4: I know the Patriots were.
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Speaker 2: Without a couple of guys, but– again, in your family
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Speaker 2: text chain, you guys followed enough. They're a stout team
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Speaker 2: that's hard to do stuff against no matter who's in.
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Speaker 2: And the Jaguars were more precise and much more fluid
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Speaker 2: offensively consistently. Like Liam talked about, they didn't hit big plays,
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Speaker 2: but they were consistent. You don't play that way if
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Speaker 2: your offensive line's getting beat. So I wrote all last
17:18
Speaker 2: week that the defensive and offensive line had to be
17:21
Speaker 2: better than they were last Sunday for them to win.
17:23
Speaker 4: I thought they were. So, Final thought on Cincinnati. What
17:26
Speaker 4: do you expect?
17:27
Speaker 3: Gosh, remember the Cincinnati game last year? It was like
17:30
Speaker 3: you go in, Joe Burrow gets hurt right away, then
17:32
Speaker 3: it's Jake Browning. So there won't be any Jake Browning,
17:34
Speaker 3: so that's probably good, considering he's beaten the Jaguars twice.
17:38
Speaker 3: Not that Joe Burrow is a good consolation prize because
17:40
Speaker 3: he's so talented.
17:42
Speaker 4: The real deal.
17:43
Speaker 3: He's so talented. And on what those wide receivers can do,
17:45
Speaker 3: what's surprising to me is their defense has been a
17:47
Speaker 3: lot better. I know that's been a focus the last
17:48
Speaker 3: couple of years is their defense has been poor and
17:50
Speaker 3: that's been difficult for them, but it's been a lot
17:52
Speaker 3: better this season. They lost last week to the Steelers,
17:54
Speaker 3: but I still think that's a formidable matchup and that's
17:56
Speaker 3: not a game to go into lightly. It's a tough
17:58
Speaker 3: place to play. They always sell it out. Um, and
18:00
Speaker 3: it'll be rocking. So I'm excited to see what that
18:02
Speaker 3: looks like. Maybe Travis Hunter will get his get back
18:05
Speaker 3: interception or another pass breakup, something like that. So I'm
18:08
Speaker 3: looking forward to it.
18:09
Speaker 2: It's an interesting game to me because, uh, last year
18:12
Speaker 2: when the Jaguars went up there, you were still trying
18:16
Speaker 2: to figure out what you were watching with this team.
18:18
Speaker 4: Correct.
18:20
Speaker 3: As was Trevor.
18:21
Speaker 4: Right.
18:22
Speaker 2: They had beaten the Panthers, but you didn't know. I
18:26
Speaker 2: thought even though they lost that game in Cincinnati last year,
18:29
Speaker 2: I came out of that game thinking, okay, they're going
18:31
Speaker 2: to be good. Because Cincinnati's good. I don't care what
18:34
Speaker 2: their record was last year. They led that whole game, remember,
18:39
Speaker 2: and then they sort of lost it at the end
18:40
Speaker 2: on what, It was not a very good call. But
18:44
Speaker 2: you sort of came out of it thinking, okay, they're
18:48
Speaker 2: going to be contending all year. They're a much better
18:50
Speaker 2: organization than they were the previous year. This year they're
18:53
Speaker 2: going up, both teams 2-1. It's a separation early game.
18:58
Speaker 2: But they're going up there as a team that is
19:02
Speaker 2: never going to be overlooked now. So it's a different challenge.
19:05
Speaker 2: I think they'll play well. I think they're better than
19:09
Speaker 2: the Bengals. And it's probably, you know, at some point
19:13
Speaker 2: with Liam's anywhere, any how, any way I choose, that's fine,
19:20
Speaker 2: but you've got to start winning on the road now.
19:22
Speaker 2: You've got to start winning away from Jacksonville. So at
19:25
Speaker 2: some point you've got to start taking steps and getting
19:27
Speaker 2: traction in this thing.
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Speaker 4: I think this weekend's a good chance for them to
19:30
Speaker 4: do it.
19:30
Speaker 3: Especially right before they go to London. So it's a
19:32
Speaker 3: tough little stretch there. They're at the Bengals and they've
19:34
Speaker 3: got the two London games, Eagles and Texans, and they've
19:37
Speaker 3: got a break for the bye week. But these are
19:39
Speaker 3: going to be some good ones.
19:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a tough stretch, and that's why this past
19:43
Speaker 2: week was so important. I think we talked about it
19:45
Speaker 2: on another show. You can say all you want. Oh,
19:49
Speaker 2: we have a tough five games. Oh, we'll get two
19:51
Speaker 2: or three of them. But you've got to get one
19:54
Speaker 2: against that tough. And beating New England, look, they didn't
19:58
Speaker 2: play as well as probably they did last year. But
20:01
Speaker 2: they're still the defending Super Bowl, defending AFC champion. That
20:05
Speaker 2: was a big, important win for this team. And it
20:08
Speaker 2: certainly gets them to where you feel... much more comfortable
20:11
Speaker 2: going in or continuing what is a tough stretch. Kai,
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Speaker 2: I appreciate you doing this. Great job as the analyst extraordinaire.
20:19
Speaker 2: That has been the Tuesday Ozone podcast, looking back at
20:22
Speaker 2: the Patriots and ahead to Cincinnati. To Brent Reber, Joe Fortunato,
20:27
Speaker 2: thank you for listening.
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Speaker 4: Have a great week.