Latest / Speak In Flow / Navigating the Path to Success With Jv Libunao
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- 0:01Melinda Lee: Welcome, dear listeners to the speaking flow
- 0:03podcast where we dive into the art of effective communication
- 0:07to unleash your leadership voice. I have a wonderful leader
- 0:12today community leaders name is Jv Libunao. I got that right.
- 0:18We're Jv Libunao, Jv Libunao Now, Jv Libunao Now, he's the
- 0:25founder of one vector design company. He's also a community
- 0:29leader, like I mentioned, who provides amazing, wonderful
- 0:32resources to the Filipino community. Primarily, he is in
- 0:36the Southern California, but he's also nationwide does it
- 0:40offer? Yeah, resources for the nationwide Filipino community.
- 0:44He's also the President of the Chamber of Commerce, who a lot
- 0:48of people don't know. It's also open not just to Filipinos, but
- 0:51then to the broader community as well. Allies. So welcome, Jv
- 0:56Glad you're here.
- 0:58Jv Libunao: Thank you. Thanks. Thanks for the invite. Yeah,
- 1:01Melinda Lee: so can you tell the audience more about what you do
- 1:04and what makes you so passionate about it? Sure.
- 1:07Jv Libunao: So I wear multiple hats. Why? Because one is never
- 1:11enough. Like, we all want to do a lot of things, you all want to
- 1:12achieve a lot of things, especially if you're a leader,
- 1:13like you come up with a lot of ideas, and you just want to do
- 1:22it, and it starts within you. So first of all, like what Melinda
- 1:26said, I found it on record design company, which is a web
- 1:30development and software integration company since 2017.
- 1:34And a little background about the name, J. V stands for one
- 1:39Juan vector. And then I did a little play with some words and
- 1:45some good luck. So then, I came up with the Juan vector brand
- 1:49and been using it even though like even back in my freelance
- 1:52days, like decades ago. And yeah, and during the pandemic, I
- 1:59founded another company, which liquid within the said, provides
- 2:03resources to the Filipino American community, primarily in
- 2:07Southern California, but available in all most parts of
- 2:10the US where there's like a Filipino community or big
- 2:13population of Filipinos. And it's a digital platform wherein
- 2:18you could find food, products, services, events, and we also
- 2:23organise our own events. It is called Adobe Stock net. So if
- 2:28you're familiar with the food, Filipino adobo, derive the name
- 2:33from that. So Adobe doesn't love Adobo love it. And fun fact, fun
- 2:38fact, though, Adobe versus actually short for something. So
- 2:43initially, it was called a double marketplace. But it was
- 2:47too long. It's a mouthful to share the web address with
- 2:50people and even just the brand. So since adult versus about
- 2:54community members, or business owners and supporters, I took
- 2:59the first four letters of Adobo and the last three letters of
- 3:05the supporters, community members and business owners came
- 3:08up with a dopers, God, and now it sounds like an app, and it's
- 3:13gonna be an app in pretty soon we're working on that. Lastly,
- 3:19cast of my contributions to the Filipino community, I was
- 3:22elected to be the president of the Philippine American Chamber
- 3:25of Commerce, Tri County. Now, it covers three counties. And it's,
- 3:31like, like I said, we often get asked if you have to be a
- 3:35Filipino to be part of it? The answer is no. We are one of the
- 3:40most diverse business organisations in three counties
- 3:43in my area. That's what I do.
- 3:46Melinda Lee: Wow, you are wearing multiple hats, multiple
- 3:51hats, and I, I like to drill down on one and it probably is
- 3:55interconnected. But let's go down to the design company as a
- 3:58web design company. And so you work with a lot of entrepreneurs
- 4:02to design their website. And so I'm curious. Today, we want to
- 4:07focus on vision. To have to be a leader, we need to we have a
- 4:12vision, and create a vision and be able to execute on that
- 4:16vision. And so you work with entrepreneurs on the website.
- 4:20And and I'm sure that creating the vision for the website can
- 4:26be daunting and challenging. So how does communication play a
- 4:31factor in the website divine design process?
- 4:36Jv Libunao: Yeah, communication is a very vital part of, first
- 4:41of all, getting their vision and for me to be able to translate
- 4:45their vision into a visual. Yeah, yeah. Because especially
- 4:49before I'm able to learn what their vision is, I have to
- 4:53listen and that's the very first step in testing and aiming. I
- 4:58have strategies I have solutions I have my 20 year experience.
- 5:02But I cannot apply any of the solutions until I hear what the
- 5:06pain points are, what the challenges are, and of course,
- 5:09what their goals are. And especially if it's for a
- 5:13specific project, or it's for like a bigger scope. Right,
- 5:17right. So, in other words, I always look at it this way, you
- 5:24can expect something with a hammer when what you need is a
- 5:26drill. So there's always customizations, when it comes to
- 5:30even just recommending a solution.
- 5:33Melinda Lee: Right? So to recommend the best solution, you
- 5:36need to listen, and really understand what is the manager
- 5:39or the leader, the entrepreneur doesn't know how to tell their
- 5:45vision, like any recommendations to how do you help them clarify
- 5:50their?
- 5:51Jv Libunao: And oftentimes, this is the case, and I've dealt with
- 5:55multiple clients, decision makers, executives, yeah, who
- 5:59are like very opinionated, but they don't really know what they
- 6:02want. And that's when they start asking questions. Right. You
- 6:07know, it's a multi step, question and answer, and it
- 6:13begins with what and why it goes from there depends on how the
- 6:19conversation goes.
- 6:20Melinda Lee: Right? Because they might think that they know, a
- 6:23Jv Libunao: lot of time. Yeah, I mean, I would, I would say that
- 6:28sometimes I could be like that all circus, also a decision
- 6:32maker and have solution ideas. But I don't know how to get
- 6:36there. But you know, I mean, we're all guilty of that
- 6:38sometimes. Oh,
- 6:39Melinda Lee: totally. So I'm sure that's where you help them
- 6:42when you when they say no. And then you say, Well, what is the
- 6:45reason for this? Why, when they're talking? Are there more
- 6:51questions that you ask them to help dig deeper to make it more
- 6:55clear?
- 6:56Jv Libunao: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, sometimes the better questions
- 7:00come out out of the conversation. Right. Right.
- 7:03Yeah. And I mean, even though like I have a follow, like a
- 7:06list of questions that I normally ask, these ideas come
- 7:10out, as we exchange ideas,
- 7:13Melinda Lee: right? Do you usually get examples from other
- 7:16websites? Or other? Yes,
- 7:18Jv Libunao: yeah. Especially if the client is auditory. And
- 7:22that's all visual. So I mean, if they're visual and needs to see
- 7:27something, yeah. And I always pull up different samples, like
- 7:31either from my password or other websites that exist or even a
- 7:35competition.
- 7:36Melinda Lee: Right. Yeah. Right. So so how do you help them if
- 7:41there's different people with different visions? You mentioned
- 7:45you were?
- 7:47Jv Libunao: Yeah. So it's very important to figure out the need
- 7:51to have in the nice to haves, right, and then we go from
- 7:55there. Obviously, the need to have needs to be prioritised.
- 7:59And the ones that are nice to be there could be somewhere in the
- 8:02future could do a little bit of compromise. Do people? Yeah,
- 8:07because at the end of the day, it is still the client?
- 8:09Melinda Lee: Yeah. Do they generally agree together? Or is
- 8:12there? What if they don't agree,
- 8:15Jv Libunao: oftentimes, they agree on something, and that's
- 8:18everyone compromises when one or one solution or one approach?
- 8:22Melinda Lee: Okay, got it? Is it usually one person that makes a
- 8:25decision? Or do you work with or sometimes you work with couple
- 8:28decision makers?
- 8:29Jv Libunao: There are times when there's like a couple of
- 8:31decision makers, or even, excuse me, excuse me, an even work on
- 8:38certain projects were in, like, multi level decision makers,
- 8:43like, there's the project manager, just the project
- 8:46director, there's the assistant of the executive, and there's
- 8:49the executive. So I'll tell you one story. For one flyer design
- 8:54that I did in the past, it took me 27 rounds of revisions, which
- 8:58is double
- 9:00Melinda Lee: believable, and it's
- 9:01Jv Libunao: because yeah, because every person in the in
- 9:04the in the chain, has to have a say. Yeah, it happens,
- 9:10Melinda Lee: either. Did they decide in the beginning that,
- 9:13hey, we're gonna have 27 people looking at this?
- 9:16Jv Libunao: Well, there's only four people but 27 revisions
- 9:19because 27 revisions from your business from more people,
- 9:23because before the before the first level, submits this graph
- 9:30to the next one. They wanted to get revised first. And that's
- 9:35how it became revisions.
- 9:38Melinda Lee: How are ya? So I was gonna ask that. I mean, have
- 9:40you started to develop a website based on their vision? And I'm
- 9:45sure this happens, it doesn't come across or it doesn't. It's
- 9:48not what they
- 9:48Jv Libunao: want to. Yeah,
- 9:50Melinda Lee: I mean, how, what is the reason for that? You
- 9:53think in the beginning, if there were there, what are the ways
- 9:55that you can first minimise that chance? And then yeah, what do
- 10:01you think? Are those reasons for that happening?
- 10:03Jv Libunao: Yeah, oftentimes, it's because one reason could
- 10:07be, there's too many people in the kitchen. There's too many
- 10:10chefs in the kitchen. And more oftentimes, the more normal
- 10:17reason would be the decision maker doesn't know what they
- 10:19want. Yeah.
- 10:21Melinda Lee: And the beginning, right, the vision in the
- 10:22beginning. So how do you know when it's like, We're clear
- 10:27yourself to protect yourself, right? Because, yeah, how do you
- 10:30decide that for yourself?
- 10:32Jv Libunao: Well, it's always starts with a lot of questions.
- 10:34I mean, I always strive to meet with decision makers in person,
- 10:41if not on a phone call, and I don't like send an email with a
- 10:45document for them to answer, I always try to get to talk to
- 10:49them, regardless of virtual or in person. And I would strive to
- 10:53be there in person because I can get a sense of their energy. And
- 10:56if they're answering the questions properly, I could
- 11:02gauge them. The battle lines, I could gauge the body language,
- 11:07if they're, if they're concrete, whether they're saying or not.
- 11:12Right, yeah. So it's important for me to like, be there. I even
- 11:18drove for 60 miles one way to close a contract. Wow. And it's,
- 11:25I'm sharing that because I knew that there's going to be some
- 11:29challenges when it comes to like, securing the final say, of
- 11:35the decision maker, so I drove just to set that meeting and
- 11:39close the contract. And then, yeah, two and a half years
- 11:41later, we're still working together.
- 11:43Melinda Lee: Yeah, I mean, it's so important. So it's good.
- 11:45Kudos for you to know, like, when is it that I go dry?
- 11:50Because, you know, like, the type of conversation, the type
- 11:53of obstacles. Okay, so you can foresee it, this is important
- 11:56for me to actually go the person. Right. Yeah. And then
- 12:01that will also help you set up like when the project goes, and
- 12:05there's like, going to be obstacles. At least you guys
- 12:07have a connection.
- 12:09Jv Libunao: Yeah, yeah, exactly. And human connections still is
- 12:12very important. Because, I mean, I run my business based on
- 12:16relationships. Yeah, I do marketing. I provide digital
- 12:20marketing services. But I still, I still get a lot of my business
- 12:26through relationships.
- 12:28Melinda Lee: Yeah. I mean, that's why I mean, and that goes
- 12:31huge. Right? That's a what your trust that the community, the
- 12:35people the relationships that you have, I think that goes so
- 12:38far, when projects don't go well, when, like you said, you
- 12:43run into obstacles, right? Sure. You're supporting the client,
- 12:47but then the also an entrepreneur, you guys need to
- 12:50have like a bond, right? And otherwise, yeah, I think it
- 12:53could be like a lot of finger pointing. And,
- 12:55Jv Libunao: and that's what one of the things that I tried to
- 12:57avoid finger pointing. Yeah, because it just doesn't delete a
- 13:01project, but it destroys the trust. Right?
- 13:05Melinda Lee: So what happens? Have you had a situation? I'm
- 13:07sure you don't have many, but have you had a situation where
- 13:10the client was not happy at all, and say, what do you do? Well,
- 13:15Jv Libunao: there are certain clients, I, I expressed that
- 13:20every now and then, I mean, sometimes these ideas just don't
- 13:26align together. They want something after realising that
- 13:30it is what they want. unfortunate that I don't have to
- 13:36deal with a lot of them. Right. But I came to a point in the
- 13:41past where I had to fire the client. It's just unhealthy, not
- 13:47just mentally for but also the project and budget wise, it's
- 13:54unhealthy. So I had to make that difficult decision of firing the
- 13:59client. Right.
- 14:00Melinda Lee: It's like this misalignment. Yeah. So knowing
- 14:04when to to just, yeah, call it quits. Yeah. The boat. That's
- 14:11awesome. I remember when I did my website there. It was, I
- 14:16mean, sometimes the the client or the person thinks that they
- 14:19know and then when you go down there, the fear starts coming
- 14:22up, especially for entrepreneurs. I was an early
- 14:25entrepreneur. This is my first website. There's so much emotion
- 14:29involved, like trying to execute what I wanted. Yeah, we got it
- 14:34done. She was really good. But I think a part of what she did
- 14:37really well was again, like you said, building the trust. She
- 14:41was really good at seeing what almost like, you know what I
- 14:45liked what I did, and, and then things that I wasn't sure about.
- 14:50She guided me through it. So yeah,
- 14:53Jv Libunao: this one thing that I want to share. So I hop on the
- 14:57BI monthly call with a business coach. One of the things that he
- 15:01always mentioned to me is I have to build a trust, especially,
- 15:04especially because my service is intangible. Is that something
- 15:08that people can hold on to? So in other words, the services I
- 15:12provide is also a personal service they buy based on trust.
- 15:16Melinda Lee: Right, right. Exactly. You and so what do you
- 15:21say are the key communication factors for successful? What
- 15:26would you say would be the secret ingredient for successful
- 15:29project execution for website?
- 15:32Jv Libunao: Um, if there's one, I would say, is to listen.
- 15:38That's a very important part of it. I mean, I could come up with
- 15:42you
- 15:43Melinda Lee: mean, like, what does listening mean to you? Does
- 15:45it mean means
- 15:46Jv Libunao: discovering their pain points, the challenges and
- 15:50where they want to go where you want to be? After the result of
- 15:53a project?
- 15:54Melinda Lee: Yeah, asking the right questions to under those
- 15:56Right. Right. Yep. Yeah, I think that's hard to sometimes because
- 16:00we want to say what we want to say, right? Yeah.
- 16:03Jv Libunao: Yeah. And sometimes it takes another person, let's
- 16:05say, in my case, it's me that host that the person is to ask
- 16:10the question, and we form something together. Wow. Yeah.
- 16:14Melinda Lee: And you're doing all of this. You're doing this
- 16:17one vector? Company, the leader of Filipino resources? Yeah.
- 16:23Yeah. What do you how do
- 16:24Jv Libunao: you? Well, um, I don't do it alone. That's the
- 16:28secret. That's what I would say to see here. Yeah, yeah. So fun
- 16:34fact about that dopers platform. I am business partner with a
- 16:41former competition. Wow. Oh, no. It's the best loyalty I've ever
- 16:47experienced in my whole life. That's awesome. Yeah.
- 16:50Melinda Lee: That goes to show that you walk the walk when it
- 16:52comes to building relationships and people around you. Yeah. And
- 16:59that's, you try. Yeah, it sounds like it. I mean, you're the
- 17:03leader of these resources in these communities. That's great.
- 17:08That's great. And what makes you excited about having part of
- 17:11this community?
- 17:13Jv Libunao: Well, what makes me excited the most is I'm able to
- 17:18use the skills that I've developed throughout the two
- 17:20decades of experience, and be able to bring back to the
- 17:24community to it.
- 17:27Melinda Lee: They're, they're taking benefit from it.
- 17:29Jv Libunao: Yeah. I mean, it used to be for myself. But I
- 17:33think as you mature, and as a business owner, right, you look
- 17:38at others, too, and what you do, what you what's, uh, whatever.
- 17:43So by services you provide becomes not just a service, but
- 17:47also community service.
- 17:50Melinda Lee: And what is what is the skills that you feel that
- 17:52you bring that you're good at bringing forth?
- 17:55Jv Libunao: I provide guidance in digital marketing, and
- 18:01anything that's geek, Geek stop, like. Yeah, sometimes I even
- 18:08find myself geeking out in a conversation.
- 18:11Melinda Lee: But I think that's what I like about you is that
- 18:13you're you're very approachable. And it sounds like you're able
- 18:16to, yeah, relate these complex, geeky talk to anybody. And so
- 18:21people are not, you know, intimidated by you. They get
- 18:26people to talk to you, and you build trust that way. And then
- 18:29you bring all the geekiness in. Yeah.
- 18:31Jv Libunao: So just find myself like talking to technical stuff.
- 18:34And yeah, better process like,
- 18:37Melinda Lee: you can tell you, you're able to spot that where
- 18:39some people will be able to spot that. So that's great. That's
- 18:43great. Well, how would people get a hold of you, they need to
- 18:46connect with you or want to connect to get a website or join
- 18:49your communities. What's
- 18:51Jv Libunao: the best? So the best way is to visit our website
- 18:55one vector.net That is o n e, v e c t o r.net. And if you are a
- 19:02business owner who wants to market in the Filipino
- 19:04community, regardless of being Filipino or not, visit
- 19:07adobe.net.
- 19:10Melinda Lee: Yes, join this join the resources, get the resources
- 19:14or connect with JV. I learned a lot today about how to help that
- 19:19vision. Communication when it's even when it's tough, right, how
- 19:24to have build that trust with people and the importance of
- 19:29that and asking the right questions and listening. Yeah.
- 19:33Thank you so much, JV. I really appreciate it and hope you all
- 19:38enjoyed this conversation with Jv and I, we had a great time
- 19:43and I look forward to seeing you the next episode and all the
- 19:48links will be shared in the episode show notes until I see
- 19:52you again. Take care thanks JV.
- 19:55Jv Libunao: Thank you