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Speaker 1: playoff discussion in just a second. We'll have all of
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Speaker 1: our rankings and everything, but When I talk about the
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Speaker 1: churning over of the playoffs in the college world, Brooks,
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Speaker 1: can you do a quick number for me of how
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Speaker 1: many new teams we had in the playoffs last year,
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Speaker 1: the second year of the 12 teams, after the first year?
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Speaker 1: Do you have that number off the top of your head?
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Speaker 1: I don't, but it seems like it was close to five.
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Speaker 2: Tulane and James Madison were new.
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Speaker 1: Alabama, Oklahoma.
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Speaker 2: Texas Tech was new.
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Speaker 1: Alabama, Oklahoma, Tulane. Texas Tech. That's up to five right there.
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Speaker 1: I knew it was at least five. I didn't know.
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Speaker 2: A & M was new.
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Speaker 1: Six. Miami.
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Speaker 2: Okay, so you're already at 50%.
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Speaker 1: That's seven. Seven of 12. Yep. So now you're over 50%. Ironically,
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Speaker 1: in the 14-team playoff in the NFL, on average, they
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Speaker 1: churn out, since they've gone to 14, almost a 50%
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Speaker 1: turnover clip of new playoff teams every year. We've always
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Speaker 1: known the NFL had great parity, and it always shows
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Speaker 1: up with the the churning of the playoff teams. And
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Speaker 1: I think we're getting that in college football. Do you
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Speaker 1: think we'll have almost that same 50% turnover again this year?
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Speaker 1: Let's work it out live here. I mean, I think
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Speaker 1: you'll probably have a new group of five, right? So
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Speaker 1: just in the 12th team. Well, I don't know. Boise's
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Speaker 1: already been there once. No, it's new year to year,
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Speaker 1: not first time. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, year to year. Okay,
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Speaker 1: so it's year to year. Yeah, Tulane and James Madison
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Speaker 1: will not be back. Right, so you'll have a new
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Speaker 1: group of six. There's at least one. Can you show
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Speaker 1: us the AP poll? from earlier this week. We'll just
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Speaker 1: look at the AP poll and just look at the
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Speaker 1: top 12 teams. Ole Miss was new, too, by the way.
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Speaker 3: Who?
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Speaker 1: Ole Miss was new, so that's eight of 12. Eight
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Speaker 1: of 12. Yeah. So Ohio State, Georgia, Notre Dame would
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Speaker 1: be fresh. So that'd be one. Texas would be new.
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Speaker 1: That'd be two. Indiana, Oklahoma were there. Miami was there.
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Speaker 1: LSU would be three. LSU would be three. You got
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Speaker 1: Ole Miss, A & M, and a group of five,
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Speaker 1: which would be four. So we'd have four of the 12,
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Speaker 1: and that's just after one week. It could turn up
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Speaker 1: to more. But it does look like this year it
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Speaker 1: may settle down to less than 50%. Well, I mean,
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Speaker 1: just keep going, though, right there. USC would be new
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Speaker 1: if they were there. USC would be new. BYU would
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Speaker 1: be new if it's them rather than Tech. Penn State
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Speaker 1: would be new this year if they made it. SMU
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Speaker 1: would be new. Tennessee would be new. So all the
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Speaker 1: contenders would be new. Yeah, I mean, if we get
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Speaker 1: a little flip in the polls right there, I mean,
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Speaker 1: if some of these teams climb. When does that happen?
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Speaker 1: I don't know. When does that ever happen? I mean,
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Speaker 1: I think it's realistic to feel like you could get
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Speaker 1: five new ones. I think that's a realistic number. You're
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Speaker 1: almost halfway there at five. I mean, 50% year over year,
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Speaker 1: I think we could start to expect that in college football. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'll live with that. Do you like the parody of
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Speaker 1: the NFL? I do. I get tired of seeing the
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Speaker 1: same teams. And listen, if you're one of the teams
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Speaker 1: that's a blue blood, you said you were joking about Alabama.
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Speaker 1: Alabama loved the fact that they were in the 14
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Speaker 1: playoff every single year. They loved it.
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Speaker 2: I don't blame them.
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Speaker 1: I would love that too. You're not a parody fan
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Speaker 1: if you're Alabama- Ohio State, Georgia, Clemson, Georgia. Yeah, you're
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Speaker 1: blue bloods. But as a viewer, I don't necessarily want
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Speaker 1: to see the same teams over and over. Like last year,
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Speaker 1: the Texans got in the NFL playoffs. They were fun, right?
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Speaker 1: I mean, that was kind of, you know, it was
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Speaker 1: fun to have the Texans back, you know, good enough
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Speaker 1: to be in the playoffs again. You know, I'm trying
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Speaker 1: to think of Carolina. Carolina was back in the playoffs.
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Speaker 1: They almost beat the Rams. You know, the Rams ended
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Speaker 1: up in the NFC Championship game. They barely survived getting
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Speaker 1: out of Carolina.
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Speaker 4: Yep.
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Speaker 1: To me, it's fun to have some new blood in there,
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Speaker 1: and it's not just always the Cowboys. And I'm using
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Speaker 1: that because the Cowboys are America's team, not because they've
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Speaker 1: done anything in the playoffs recently. But it's always the Cowboys,
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Speaker 1: or always the Packers, or always all these historically great teams.
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Speaker 2: The Chiefs weren't in it last year. I mean, I
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Speaker 2: know because of an injury.
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Speaker 1: But still, if they get back there this year, that's
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Speaker 1: one of the new teams getting towards that 50% mark.
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Speaker 1: But it was refreshing to not watch the Chiefs just
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Speaker 1: walk through that thing again.
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Speaker 3: Not only was it not the first time they were
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Speaker 3: in the playoffs since 14, it was the first time
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Speaker 3: they weren't in the AFC championship at least since, what,
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Speaker 3: like 18?
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Speaker 1: Yeah. It'll be interesting to see as we unveil our
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Speaker 1: playoff teams how many people believe the Chiefs can get
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Speaker 1: back there or not. with the Broncos and Chargers and
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Speaker 1: other teams standing in their way. With that in mind,
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Speaker 1: of the staff here, let's go ahead and throw up
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Speaker 1: the playoff teams. You got Lance's or do I? Here
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Speaker 1: is Lance Taylor's. We'll do his first, and we'll do Forrester, Brooks, Brown,
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Speaker 1: and mine. Lance attending a funeral today, so he was
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Speaker 1: unable to be with us, but he gave us his
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Speaker 1: picks ahead of time. I'll lock it down right there.
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Speaker 1: So Lance goes with Buffalo. Here are his AFC division winners. Buffalo, Baltimore, Houston,
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Speaker 1: and the LA Chargers. Okay. He likes in the wild card, Indianapolis, Jacksonville,
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Speaker 1: and New England. Okay. Who is the blatant missing there
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Speaker 1: from him? He's usually a big Bengals fan. Patriots are in,
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Speaker 1: but they don't win the division. You're right. The Bengals,
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Speaker 1: he likes to burrow. He thinks only one team out
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Speaker 1: of that division. Indianapolis is an interesting inclusion for him.
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Speaker 1: I find that to be kind of interesting. More on
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Speaker 1: that later. Okay. In the NFC. I mean, he's got
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Speaker 1: three teams out of the AFC South. He really does.
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Speaker 1: He does. Indianapolis, Jacksonville, and Houston. Tennessee is the only
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Speaker 1: AFC South team he doesn't have in. He does. In
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Speaker 1: the NFC, he likes Dallas, the Bears, the Panthers, and
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Speaker 1: his LA Rams. Which is uncharacteristic of him, I think,
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Speaker 1: to pick them. Well, more on that in a moment.
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Speaker 1: His wild cards, Chicago, San Francisco, and.
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Speaker 1: Seattle. Did I get that right? Because he's got Detroit
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Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. Where did I mess up? I
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Speaker 1: went with his sport and state Super Bowl pick, I thought.
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Speaker 1: Was I right about that, Brooks? Isn't that what he
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Speaker 1: put on sport and state? Yeah, he's got Detroit in.
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Speaker 1: You've got Chicago twice, Brown. That's typical of you with polls.
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Speaker 1: Chicago is your Iowa. Let me go back and look
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Speaker 1: at it. No, that's what I've done. I've done Chicago twice.
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Speaker 1: Detroit should be a wild card. Either wins the North or.
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Speaker 2: Is a wild card. I got Iowa twice in his
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Speaker 2: top 25.
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Speaker 3: Okay.
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Speaker 1: Chicago's a new Iowa. I did Lance's as a favor
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Speaker 1: to him. He was paying respects to a longtime friend.
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Speaker 1: So if you guys want to jump on my back
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Speaker 1: for helping Lance out, go right ahead. He has Detroit
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Speaker 1: winning the division. Chicago is the wild card. Are you
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Speaker 1: sure about that? Yes. Okay. And that's got to be
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Speaker 1: the way he has it. Forrester, how do you have yours?
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Speaker 5: I think I did this wrong because all I did
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Speaker 5: was make who makes the playoffs.
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Speaker 1: That's quite all right.
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Speaker 2: That's all I picked.
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Speaker 1: Show me who makes the playoffs.
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Speaker 2: We'll go AFC.
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Speaker 5: I got my four division winners, the Bills, the Texans,
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Speaker 5: the Ravens, and the Broncos. I'm a bigger believer in
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Speaker 5: the Broncos and Bo Nix than some.
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Speaker 1: We're damn.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: Fort M, go Ducks, all that. Then I got the Chargers,
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Speaker 5: the Bengals, and the Chiefs as the wild card.
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Speaker 1: So you think Mahomes gets the Chiefs back there?
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Speaker 5: I do.
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Speaker 1: In Kelsey's final year, likely. That's a legit, that looks
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Speaker 1: very familiar to me. That's a legit looking field. I
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Speaker 1: like that as well. Give me your NFC teams. And
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Speaker 1: you did it correctly. It's exactly the way you're supposed.
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Speaker 5: To do it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that. That's a clean look right there.
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Speaker 2: All right, NFC.
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Speaker 5: I got LT's Rams winning their division.
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Speaker 2: I got the Eagles. I got the Lions.
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Speaker 5: And I got Jimmy's Bucks winning the vaunted South.
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Speaker 1: Should be noted that he's a Falcons fan, but he
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Speaker 1: picked the Bucks here. And then your wild card teams are?
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Speaker 2: I got the Bears, I got the Cowboys, and I
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Speaker 2: got the Vikings. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: is for sure. Brooks, give me yours.
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Speaker 2: I want to admit a whole bracket.
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Speaker 1: I guess we did that. Wow, we all did this differently.
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Speaker 1: That's okay.
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Speaker 2: Exact clarity.
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Speaker 1: Make sure you didn't put a team in twice. Well,
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Speaker 1: that's going to be very small on your little screen there,
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Speaker 1: so go ahead and tell us. I did it vertically.
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Speaker 1: It's good. It's good. Much like a Big Ten replay officials,
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Speaker 1: only you are able to see that.
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Speaker 2: All right. I'm going to read it to you first
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Speaker 2: before I turn around.
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Speaker 3: Actually, there's probably no point turning it around, though, because
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Speaker 3: I don't know if this two shot.
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Speaker 2: Here, I can give you a live ugly zoom.
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Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, let's do it. Let's do an ugly zoom live.
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Speaker 3: I'll start with the AFC. I've got Buffalo as my
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Speaker 3: number one seed. I've got Houston as my two seed.
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Speaker 3: I've got the Chargers as my three seed. I've got
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Speaker 3: Baltimore as my four seed. I've got Kansas City back
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Speaker 3: in the playoffs as the five seed. Don't have them
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Speaker 3: win the division, though. That's the Chargers. I've got Cincinnati
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Speaker 3: in as a wild card as the... sixth seed, and
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Speaker 3: then I have the Jags as the seventh seed in
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Speaker 3: as a wild card.
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Speaker 2: In the NFC, I have the Rams as the number
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Speaker 2: one seed. I think they're too good.
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Speaker 3: I know there's a lot of hype there, and Lance
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Speaker 3: is very weary of that, but.
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Speaker 2: I'm buying the hype this year. Detroit is my two seed.
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Speaker 3: I've got Dallas as my three seed winning the NFC East.
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Speaker 3: I've got the Panthers winning the NFC South this year.
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Speaker 3: And I have my wildcard teams, Philly as the five seed,
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Speaker 3: Seattle as the six seed, and the Packers as the
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Speaker 3: seven seed.
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Speaker 2: And I have the Rams beating the Bills.
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Speaker 3: I think the Bills get back to the Super Bowl
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Speaker 3: for the first time since the 90s with Joe Brady
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Speaker 3: as their new head coach. But I'm buying the Rams
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Speaker 3: and Matt Stafford walking it off and calling it a career.
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Speaker 2: Yep.
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Speaker 1: in the AFC with Buffalo winning the East. That's probably
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Speaker 1: the easiest one to call. Worst division in the NFL.
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Speaker 1: Cincinnati winning the North. Houston out of the South. And
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Speaker 1: Kansas City comes back and takes the West. What?
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Speaker 2: Go ahead.
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Speaker 1: No, why are you laughing? Go ahead. My wild cards
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Speaker 1: have got Baltimore, the Chargers, and Jacksonville. It's just funny
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Speaker 1: that my bold prediction with Sporting State was the AFC champion.
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Speaker 1: I said it on the show yesterday. The Broncos and
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Speaker 1: Patriots both missing the playoffs. Do you have the Broncos
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Speaker 1: or the Patriots? I don't.
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Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
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Speaker 1: So either it wasn't so bold or somebody's a copycat. Nope,
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Speaker 1: not a copycat. NFC, Dallas, Chicago, Carolina, and the LA Rams.
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Speaker 1: And my wild cards are Minnesota, Philadelphia, and Seattle. Now,
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Speaker 1: you should know that I'm sticking with Seattle without knowing
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Speaker 1: the outcome of this MRI today on the help of
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Speaker 1: Sam Darnold. So I had Seattle before the game last night,
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Speaker 1: sticking with them. I mean, could be without their quarterback
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Speaker 1: the rest of the year, I guess, right? You have
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Speaker 1: the Rams over Cincinnati. I got the Rams over Cincinnati
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Speaker 1: in my Super Bowl. Joe Burrow gets back there and
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Speaker 1: loses again.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: All right, very familiar-looking one on the AFC, Brown. Here
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Speaker 1: is my AFC, Buffalo, Cincinnati, Houston, and Kansas City winning
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Speaker 1: the divisions for me. And the wild card, give me Baltimore, Indianapolis,
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Speaker 1: and the Chargers, much like LT. I think the Colts
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Speaker 1: can get there, giving the AFC South a second team.
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Speaker 1: I think Baltimore can get back there, but not win
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Speaker 1: a lot of games. But I believe in Cincinnati. I
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Speaker 1: believe in KC getting back. I like the Chargers, and
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Speaker 1: as my bold prediction was, no Broncos, no Patriots. I'm
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Speaker 1: interested to think if the Patriots had won last night,
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Speaker 1: would the Patriots have been in yours? No. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I'm leaving Seattle in mind with their quarterback's future unknown. No. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Seattle's in mind as well.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: In the NFC, Dallas, Detroit, Tampa Bay, and the Rams
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Speaker 1: winning the division. I go Eagles, Seattle, and the New
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Speaker 1: York Giants. the New York Giants making the playoffs. Don't
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Speaker 1: he has a plan to win football games, and I
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Speaker 1: you know, I, I understand your, your thought there. And
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Speaker 1: I think we need to make sure this is not
18:04
Speaker 1: just one of these days we gloss by, but, um,
18:07
Speaker 1: but that's what we do as Americans is we work, man.
18:10
Speaker 1: They try, you basically were saying they tried to change
18:12
Speaker 1: our lives. They tried to change our lives. Let's don't
18:14
Speaker 1: change our lives for them. Let's keep doing what we do. And, um,
18:18
Speaker 1: those firemen and those police officers that passed away, they
18:21
Speaker 1: were doing their job, man. And they were in there
18:23
Speaker 1: trying to save lives. So they worked the day after
18:25
Speaker 1: they worked on September 12th. That's right. So I think
18:27
Speaker 1: we work in their honor. So, um, I, I, I, that,
18:31
Speaker 1: that would be my opinion is you just, you just
18:33
Speaker 1: keep working as Americans do what we do. And it's
18:36
Speaker 1: not like we're busting rocks up here. I get it, but, uh, it's,
18:39
Speaker 1: it's what our country does. It's, it's one of the
18:41
Speaker 1: many things that makes us the greatest nation in the world. And, um,
18:44
Speaker 1: that's what we do, man.
18:45
Speaker 2: Yep.
18:46
Speaker 1: I was moved when you said that.
18:47
Speaker 5: Really?
18:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. I'm not joking. That's a great way to
18:51
Speaker 1: look at things. Clay will join us momentarily. We're getting
18:56
Speaker 1: ready for a big college football weekend, and we've got
18:59
Speaker 1: a couple of marquee games this weekend other than just
19:04
Speaker 1: the Battle of the SEC and the Big Ten on
19:06
Speaker 1: the main stage. A couple other SEC reputation games. Mississippi
19:11
Speaker 1: State at Minnesota is one. More on that later. But
19:16
Speaker 1: on Friday night, we get SEC versus Big 12 in
19:19
Speaker 1: Missouri and Kansas. Now, it does feel like Kansas has
19:24
Speaker 1: taken a step back. That's 7 o'clock Fox with our
19:27
Speaker 1: friend Tim Brando on the call. It seems like Kansas
19:32
Speaker 1: had its moment, built this beautiful new stadium, and now
19:35
Speaker 1: is slipping back closer to what we know Kansas to be.
19:39
Speaker 1: This is a big game for Missouri, though. It is
19:41
Speaker 1: a huge game for Missouri, having to go on the road,
19:43
Speaker 1: first of all. And this is, I mean, look, I'm
19:45
Speaker 1: it's never going to be confused for the Iron Bowl
19:46
Speaker 1: or the Ohio State Michigan game but this is a
19:49
Speaker 1: robbery it's the border war right a lot of hate
19:51
Speaker 1: in that game yeah there's some hate in this game
19:52
Speaker 1: so you you've got that aspect of it you've got
19:55
Speaker 1: Austin Simmons for Missouri making his first Missouri road start
19:58
Speaker 1: he's a he started on the road at Ole Miss
20:01
Speaker 1: obviously but his first road start for Missouri and you
20:04
Speaker 1: know it's weird that it wasn't too long before that
20:08
Speaker 1: we were talking about the head coach of Kansas taking
20:11
Speaker 1: open jobs that were bigger jobs, how quickly that has
20:14
Speaker 1: turned on them. Right. And can they get it back?
20:17
Speaker 1: I mean, really, you know, the reason it's turned is
20:19
Speaker 1: your backup quarterback. He's no longer there playing for him.
20:23
Speaker 1: I don't know if he won the backup job at Tampa.
20:24
Speaker 1: He actually did. Jalen Daniels is the QB too.
20:27
Speaker 3: Yeah.
20:28
Speaker 1: He won. So he won the backup job in Tampa
20:30
Speaker 1: and he was really good for them at Kansas and they,
20:32
Speaker 1: it's just, it's not the same. So, I mean, this
20:35
Speaker 1: is a huge game for Missouri. I think you can't,
20:39
Speaker 1: I mean, look, they beat a nobody, you know, very
20:41
Speaker 1: handily in week one. You can't go on the road
20:44
Speaker 1: and drop a game to Kansas and be a quality
20:47
Speaker 1: enough team to have any sort of chance to compete
20:50
Speaker 1: in the SEC. Another game that is sort of a
20:53
Speaker 1: reputation game, SEC versus the ACC. And Brooks, maybe you
20:58
Speaker 1: know this off the top of your head, but last year,
21:00
Speaker 1: SEC versus the ACC didn't turn out too well. Tennessee
21:04
Speaker 1: needs to get georgia tech in that massive showdown going
21:08
Speaker 1: on in atlanta this weekend too just for that sec
21:11
Speaker 1: acc there'll be several games throughout the year that'll match
21:13
Speaker 1: those teams together all right let's uh talk to our
21:17
Speaker 1: guy clay travis he is uh traveling today so no
21:21
Speaker 1: video appearance from his palatial home studio but he is
21:23
Speaker 1: with us nonetheless clay what is up man how are
21:26
Speaker 1: you today.
21:27
Speaker 6: I'm doing well i'm walking through the uh nashville airport
21:30
Speaker 6: here uh headed to uh to dallas down and back
21:33
Speaker 6: so uh That is the activities afoot here.
21:37
Speaker 1: Is that the Dolly Parton International Airport yet? Have they
21:40
Speaker 1: actually made that decision?
21:43
Speaker 6: I think that it has not officially become a reality,
21:47
Speaker 6: but the governors, the governor, the senators and the mayor
21:51
Speaker 6: are all in agreement that they're going to do it.
21:53
Speaker 6: And I think the airport authority is as well. So
21:57
Speaker 6: I don't know what the protocol or how long it takes,
22:00
Speaker 6: but I do think it will become Dolly Parton International
22:03
Speaker 6: sooner rather than later.
22:05
Speaker 1: When I see celebrities walking through the airports, I keep
22:07
Speaker 1: waiting for TMZ to walk up. So maybe TMZ will
22:09
Speaker 1: walk up to Clay here at some point. De-escalation was
22:13
Speaker 1: the word yesterday with LSU and SEC in this battle.
22:17
Speaker 1: The presidents are still meeting today. What do you think
22:20
Speaker 1: they'll discuss today, Clay, if it's not expulsion? What's going
22:23
Speaker 1: on in that meeting in your mind?
22:25
Speaker 6: Yeah, to me, the story here is it's like when
22:29
Speaker 6: your dad went and got the belt. you know, after
22:32
Speaker 6: you talk back to mom and she said, well, wait
22:35
Speaker 6: till your dad gets home. Or if you remember at
22:37
Speaker 6: elementary school, I don't know if they still paddle kids,
22:40
Speaker 6: but back in the day in elementary school when the
22:42
Speaker 6: teacher would open the drawer and pull the paddle out
22:45
Speaker 6: and put it on the desk and, you know, these
22:47
Speaker 6: kids would start saying, oh no, she's got the paddle out.
22:49
Speaker 6: And then, you know, things accelerated from there. She might
22:52
Speaker 6: stand up and slap her hand with the paddle. For
22:55
Speaker 6: everybody who remembers that, it feels like the court filings
22:59
Speaker 6: was the SEC saying, Daddy's home.
23:01
Speaker 1: I'm going to get my belt.
23:03
Speaker 6: Or the teacher standing up and smacking the hand and
23:06
Speaker 6: letting it be known that the next thing to get
23:08
Speaker 6: smacked was the butt. And I think that what LSU
23:12
Speaker 6: did is finally engage in a rational behavior, which they
23:17
Speaker 6: had not been engaged in before. And so it feels like,
23:20
Speaker 6: to me, they've acknowledged, hey, we're going to step back
23:25
Speaker 6: from the abyss here and I also think winning big
23:28
Speaker 6: over Clemson sort of exacerbated the risk reward. I said,
23:33
Speaker 6: I think with you guys on the show last week,
23:35
Speaker 6: and I certainly have said it on my shows, these
23:38
Speaker 6: guys were never going to change the outcome of a game.
23:41
Speaker 6: And I'm not saying that making a decision to go
23:44
Speaker 6: get pro players. Hey, if Leonard Fournette and his prime
23:47
Speaker 6: was suddenly available or Jaden Daniels was available or, Jamar
23:52
Speaker 6: Chase was to pick three different former LSU players. I mean,
23:55
Speaker 6: I think that's a different calculation. Guys not good enough
23:59
Speaker 6: to make NFL rosters are unlikely to make a difference
24:03
Speaker 6: for LSU. And so I think given how big they
24:06
Speaker 6: won over Clemson and the fact that they certainly look
24:09
Speaker 6: like a playoff team in week one has also made
24:13
Speaker 6: them recalibrate the risks associated with deciding to bring those
24:17
Speaker 6: guys in.
24:18
Speaker 1: Clay, I personally think, and I've talked to enough people
24:22
Speaker 1: that I don't think I'm just having an opinion here.
24:24
Speaker 1: I think this is a very informed opinion, to be
24:26
Speaker 1: honest with you. That the SEC's issue is the heavy-handed
24:30
Speaker 1: involvement of the Louisiana governor in LSU athletics. That I
24:34
Speaker 1: don't think Greg Sankey and the SEC, and the SEC presidents,
24:38
Speaker 1: it should be noted this is not just Greg Sankey
24:40
Speaker 1: acting independently. He's acting on behalf of the other 15 presidents.
24:43
Speaker 1: I don't think they feel like the athletic director and
24:47
Speaker 1: the president have any sort of authority at that school
24:50
Speaker 1: that the governor and Lane Kiffin basically are running this thing.
24:53
Speaker 1: I think that was Sankey's issue. And the only way
24:56
Speaker 1: he has no authority over the Louisiana governor, the only
24:59
Speaker 1: way he could do anything was to attack his child,
25:01
Speaker 1: like you said, which is LSU football. And I think
25:04
Speaker 1: that's the big issue here.
25:06
Speaker 6: I think that certainly is a big part of it.
25:08
Speaker 6: And the other aspect here I would point out is, Actually,
25:13
Speaker 6: the incentive structure for Louisiana politicians is just to feud
25:19
Speaker 6: with the SEC and the NCAA because it's good for
25:23
Speaker 6: them because it kind of circles the wagon and it's
25:27
Speaker 6: everybody against Louisiana. And so if you're a senator or
25:31
Speaker 6: you're a congressman or you're a governor, you don't stand
25:35
Speaker 6: to lose at all. I mean, I thought it was
25:36
Speaker 6: funny when the attorney general showed up in an LSU
25:39
Speaker 6: purple blouse.
25:40
Speaker 4: Yeah.
25:41
Speaker 6: And said, go Tigers, as her opening statement before the
25:44
Speaker 6: court hearing. I mean, I think that kind of gave
25:47
Speaker 6: you a sense for how this is going to play out.
25:49
Speaker 6: Big picture, leaving aside Louisiana, I also think you have
25:52
Speaker 6: to keep in mind, all of these court cases are
25:55
Speaker 6: being filed in local state courts, which are the most
26:00
Speaker 6: likely to rule in favor of local players, right? Whether
26:04
Speaker 6: it's Trinidad Chambliss in Mississippi, I know everybody's forgotten about
26:08
Speaker 6: the Brendan Sorsby story. But the guy gambled on like
26:12
Speaker 6: 500 different games or whatever the heck it was, and
26:15
Speaker 6: a West Texas court was going to say, hey, you're
26:17
Speaker 6: eligible to play for Texas Tech. To me, the LSU
26:21
Speaker 6: situation is somewhat analogous to what we saw happen with
26:24
Speaker 6: Texas Tech and Brendan Sorsby, where the Big 12 had
26:27
Speaker 6: to kind of slap them back. I think you can
26:30
Speaker 6: be emboldened by what local courts will say and certainly
26:35
Speaker 6: the forum shopping that we're seeing there. comes into play,
26:39
Speaker 6: I think, in a significant fashion as well.
26:41
Speaker 1: Always go to the Sporting State website as well as
26:44
Speaker 1: you watch us. A lot of great written content over
26:47
Speaker 1: there and video clips as well. You can check out
26:50
Speaker 1: all of our coverage on this. I saw on the
26:53
Speaker 1: Sporting State social media platform, you sent out, Clay, five
26:57
Speaker 1: teams to replace LSU if they got expelled. And listen,
27:01
Speaker 1: I know you knew that they were never going to
27:04
Speaker 1: get expelled. I'm interested on your number one choice, North Carolina.
27:07
Speaker 1: I recognize your voice. Thank you so much. I appreciate you.
27:11
Speaker 1: I love this. That is so staged.
27:14
Speaker 6: Sorry, I was posing for a photo.
27:17
Speaker 1: She recognized your voice. Clay pointed out at our kickoff
27:20
Speaker 1: party that there was 500 people there and 499 people
27:23
Speaker 1: loved Clay and then there was me. And he embarrassed
27:29
Speaker 1: me in front of my friends.
27:31
Speaker 6: No, I was just saying, like, everybody wanted pictures. Everybody
27:35
Speaker 6: was super kind. That's my usual experience everywhere that I go.
27:39
Speaker 6: I don't get much negativity. But, yeah, I'm standing in
27:42
Speaker 6: the airport concourse here talking with you guys. So, you know,
27:46
Speaker 6: she wanted to get a selfie. She's got great taste, clearly.
27:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, 499 to 1. And the big joke in my
27:53
Speaker 1: golf group, Clay, they were there, every one of them.
27:55
Speaker 1: There were seven guys there. and me, we have two
27:58
Speaker 1: foursomes that we play together every week multiple times. And
28:02
Speaker 1: their big laughing joke on the golf course every time
28:05
Speaker 1: now is, hey, how about us getting you to take
28:08
Speaker 1: a picture of all seven of us and Clay Travis?
28:10
Speaker 1: That big thing was, hey, Dunaway, take our picture of
28:14
Speaker 1: me taking a picture of Clay and my seven friends.
28:17
Speaker 1: It was fantastic. Loved it. Anyway, sport and state for
28:20
Speaker 1: written content. North Carolina was your first choice if LSU
28:24
Speaker 1: was kicked out of the league. If we don't pass
28:27
Speaker 1: the Protect College Sports Act and we end up moving
28:30
Speaker 1: to expanded conferences to get everything in line, how attractive
28:34
Speaker 1: is North Carolina to the SEC?
28:37
Speaker 6: I think beyond a shadow of a doubt, if the
28:40
Speaker 6: SEC were going to expand, their top two targets would
28:44
Speaker 6: be North Carolina and the University of Virginia. I think
28:49
Speaker 6: the geographic cohesion makes a ton of sense. Those are
28:54
Speaker 6: big markets. You know, North Carolina and Virginia are both
28:58
Speaker 6: growing markets. I think one of the big stories of
29:01
Speaker 6: the SEC writ large is just the South is white hot.
29:06
Speaker 6: The number of people moving here, the universities are all
29:09
Speaker 6: super popular. You know, I joke about this, but, you know,
29:12
Speaker 6: you used to send your kids to Ole Miss if
29:15
Speaker 6: they weren't good enough to get into a normal school, right?
29:18
Speaker 6: Like your state school, maybe they'd committed a murder in
29:21
Speaker 6: the past. Maybe they, you know, had gotten.
29:23
Speaker 2: A 400 SAT.
29:25
Speaker 6: I saw the other day where Ole Miss is now
29:27
Speaker 6: rejecting half the people that try to apply to Ole Miss.
29:31
Speaker 6: So it's not just the Vanderbilts of the world, which
29:33
Speaker 6: have always been difficult to get into. uh and i
29:36
Speaker 6: think vanderbilt by the way had a lower acceptance rate
29:39
Speaker 6: this year than yale let me repeat that it was
29:42
Speaker 6: harder to get into vanderbilt this past year than yale
29:45
Speaker 6: or columbia um that's how white hot vanderbilt is but
29:49
Speaker 6: the rising tide has lifted all boats north carolina obviously
29:52
Speaker 6: the population has continued to skyrocket you're seeing the same
29:55
Speaker 6: thing in virginia NC State, Virginia Tech, I think would
29:59
Speaker 6: also be in the play. You know, Vandy certainly would
30:02
Speaker 6: not mind Duke in those states. I think that is
30:05
Speaker 6: where the SEC would go if you gave them the
30:08
Speaker 6: opportunity to expand. That's the arena they would jump into.
30:13
Speaker 1: Clay, on the field, big game coming up this weekend,
30:18
Speaker 1: Ohio State and Texas. We were just talking about the
30:20
Speaker 1: fact that Sark feels kind of where Ryan Day was
30:23
Speaker 1: before he won the national championship. Do you view it
30:26
Speaker 1: that way? Do you view Sark as kind of the
30:28
Speaker 1: coach that if he can't find a way to win
30:31
Speaker 1: the national championship, is going to hear some of the
30:33
Speaker 1: same crap Ryan Day was hearing? He may already be
30:35
Speaker 1: hearing it.
30:36
Speaker 6: Yeah, look, I mean, and look, I think also Arch Manning.
30:39
Speaker 6: I mean, remember last year they said they were articles
30:44
Speaker 6: written saying Arch Manning was a bust after he didn't
30:47
Speaker 6: play well on the road when they lose 12-7 or
30:50
Speaker 6: whatever the heck the final score ended up being in
30:52
Speaker 6: that game.
30:53
Speaker 1: You know, when he didn't play well in that game.
30:55
Speaker 1: People labeled him a bust.
30:56
Speaker 6: And now I saw Hard Rock Bet has Arch as
30:59
Speaker 6: the most likely player to be taken number one overall.
31:02
Speaker 6: So it's a hell of a comeback. And obviously, I'm
31:05
Speaker 6: joking about that. I mean, he was never a bust.
31:07
Speaker 6: But I think it's not only Sark. I think people
31:09
Speaker 6: will say, oh, here's Arch Manning. He can't win a
31:12
Speaker 6: big game. They will continue to attack him. I think
31:15
Speaker 6: the Texas program will be attacked. Hey, they're soft. They
31:18
Speaker 6: can't get the big wins. They're spending more money than
31:20
Speaker 6: anybody else. They've got elite talent. Um, all of those
31:23
Speaker 6: things I think will, uh, will stack up against him.
31:26
Speaker 6: Having said that, I think Ohio state's going to lose.
31:29
Speaker 6: I think Texas is going to win. You guys know, um,
31:32
Speaker 6: I just recorded my, you know, Clay Travis show this
31:35
Speaker 6: morning before I came to the airport. I feel like
31:38
Speaker 6: the talent that they put around arch has actually not
31:42
Speaker 6: been discussed enough.
31:43
Speaker 1: Hey, appreciate you. Oh, it's awesome to see you.
31:46
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
31:47
Speaker 6: It's good to see you.
31:47
Speaker 1: Thank you. Uh, sorry.
31:49
Speaker 6: Uh, uh, I think that if you actually look at
31:54
Speaker 6: the talent, wide receiver in particular, you guys know Cam Coleman.
31:59
Speaker 6: I think he's going to have a breakout game.
32:00
Speaker 1: I think they're going to make.
32:01
Speaker 6: Big-time plays offensively in a way they did not last year.
32:05
Speaker 6: That home crowd will be absolutely raucous. I'm not sold, guys,
32:09
Speaker 6: on Julian Sane. I know there's a lot of questions
32:11
Speaker 6: about Arch still out there. I think Julian Sane is
32:16
Speaker 6: not an elite, elite quarterback. We'll see if I'm right
32:20
Speaker 6: and see how he plays this year. But but I
32:22
Speaker 6: think Texas will win. I also think Oklahoma is going
32:25
Speaker 6: to win. And I think the narrative coming out of
32:28
Speaker 6: this weekend is going to be what's the WWE meme
32:31
Speaker 6: where the guy comes out of the.
32:33
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Out of the coffin.
32:34
Speaker 6: Yeah.
32:35
Speaker 5: Yeah.
32:35
Speaker 1: Undertaker.
32:36
Speaker 6: So, yeah, the Undertaker when Ohio State and Michigan both
32:41
Speaker 6: lose to SEC programs, Texas and Oklahoma after the SEC
32:45
Speaker 6: also went 16 and 0 last week. I think the
32:49
Speaker 6: multi-year narrative now of the SEC can't compete on the
32:52
Speaker 6: same level in the NIL era and the conference is
32:55
Speaker 6: down and all those things, I think will flip on
32:58
Speaker 6: its head after what we see happen.
33:01
Speaker 2: What's up, guys?
33:01
Speaker 1: How are y'all? After we see what happens tomorrow. Before
33:05
Speaker 1: you get on the flight, as a guy who has
33:07
Speaker 1: never been– Out of Group 8, I'm always Group 8 boarding.
33:12
Speaker 1: In Southwest? No, in Delta and other flights, I'm Group 8. Oh, no, no.
33:18
Speaker 6: Southwest is a, you know, it was a long time A, B,
33:22
Speaker 6: and C.
33:22
Speaker 1: Now they've changed it. So I have.
33:25
Speaker 6: 2.6 million Southwest points, which has got to be like,
33:30
Speaker 6: I should get to, you know, most of the pilots,
33:33
Speaker 6: you know, know me at this point, humbly.
33:35
Speaker 1: Oh, humbly. Yeah, before Brown interrupted, I was going to say,
33:40
Speaker 1: as a group eight guy who never gets to board
33:43
Speaker 1: first and only gets offered Biscoff cookies, in first class,
33:48
Speaker 1: what are your choices for snack? It's just Biscoff or
33:51
Speaker 1: pretzels for me. What do you get?
33:53
Speaker 6: No, Southwest doesn't have first class. So, I mean, you're
33:58
Speaker 6: a common man. I sit at the front of the
34:01
Speaker 6: plane so I can get off the quickest. But but
34:04
Speaker 6: they have no special seating privileges on Southwest. So I'm
34:08
Speaker 6: flying Southwest to Dallas and back. So, you know, I
34:12
Speaker 6: live on the edges, man. It's either private jet travel
34:14
Speaker 6: or it's Southwest.
34:15
Speaker 1: I don't think in the middle, only the margins. This
34:19
Speaker 1: sounds like his launch political campaign. I don't know. Not
34:22
Speaker 1: first class. I fly with a common man. Do you
34:23
Speaker 1: like Southwest better since they went to assigned seating? Do
34:26
Speaker 1: you like it better?
34:27
Speaker 6: Um, I always boarded fast because I've got so many, uh,
34:31
Speaker 6: points and it actually is easier today. Uh, and sometimes
34:35
Speaker 6: when I'm running late to get on an airplane, like
34:37
Speaker 6: it is nicer. Like today, uh, I would prefer to
34:40
Speaker 6: board at the absolute last minute on a flight because
34:44
Speaker 6: I don't like to just sit around on the plane
34:46
Speaker 6: and wait.
34:46
Speaker 1: Uh, I never check bags.
34:48
Speaker 6: So I'm like today I'm traveling with a backpack, you know,
34:50
Speaker 6: down and back. So, um, you know, I'll sit down and, uh,
34:55
Speaker 6: read and, you know, prep and everything else. But, uh,
34:58
Speaker 6: you know, if I walk on three minutes before the
35:00
Speaker 6: plane takes off, I'm happy.
35:02
Speaker 2: Yeah.
35:02
Speaker 1: The problem is if you've got to carry on, people
35:04
Speaker 1: are not courteous about the overhead bins. Like they just
35:07
Speaker 1: put it in the first one. They don't put it
35:08
Speaker 1: in the one over their seat. Well, that's certainly true.
35:12
Speaker 4: Yeah.
35:12
Speaker 1: They tell you to do that. Clay, have a safe flight, man.
35:15
Speaker 1: Thank you.
35:16
Speaker 2: Hey, appreciate y'all.
35:17
Speaker 1: Have a good day.
35:17
Speaker 2: I'll, uh, and keep up the good work.
35:19
Speaker 3: Yep.
35:19
Speaker 1: Thanks. We appreciate it. Clay. Clay and Buck, follow us
35:23
Speaker 1: on Sporting State. Obviously, Clay will be traveling, but you
35:24
Speaker 1: get the Clay Travis show that he prerecorded a little
35:26
Speaker 1: bit later on today. Sportingstate.com for all the shows. Sportingstate.com.
35:31
Speaker 1: And we appreciate all you that are joining us there.
35:34
Speaker 1: More college football coming up. Brent Venable is getting ready
35:36
Speaker 1: to lead the Sooners into Ann Arbor. We'll hear from
35:41
Speaker 1: him when we come back. And a couple of more
35:43
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Speaker 1: for Clay Travis Law. One thing about Florida State, real quickly,
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Speaker 1: as they get ready to on a bye week before
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Speaker 1: they come to Alabama, everyone watched the other night waiting
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Speaker 1: for that game to roll and the delay on Monday night,
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Speaker 1: Labor Day night. The world was watching. And the two Taylors,
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Speaker 1: Taylor McGregor, Taylor Tannenbaum, friend of the show, did such
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Speaker 1: a wonderful job filling time. But an hour and 40
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Speaker 1: minutes of time fill that they had to do because
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Speaker 1: of the power outage, and they still played the game.
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Speaker 1: without all the lights and without some of the headsets.
38:41
Speaker 1: I have talked to a Tuscaloosa city official. If something
38:46
Speaker 1: like that were to happen in Tuscaloosa, there are several
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Speaker 1: plans that have been in place for years and years.
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Speaker 1: Not only generators, but different ways to tap into different
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Speaker 1: power grids. There are scenarios for several different things already
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Speaker 1: in place in Tuscaloosa. Again, one, two, three. There's four
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Speaker 1: or five different levels that can power the entire stadium
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Speaker 1: if they were to lose a transformer locally like what
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Speaker 1: happened in Tallahassee. So they already had this plan in place.
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Speaker 1: This would not have taken Alabama by surprise. I don't
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Speaker 1: know how many years back this plan goes, but multiple
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Speaker 1: people have told me that there are. there is a
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Speaker 1: level of different power options for Bryant-Denny Stadium. That includes
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Speaker 1: serious grids and things that they can tap into. Because,
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Speaker 1: as I pointed out on the broadcast on Tuesday, I mean,
39:51
Speaker 1: in that situation, I don't know what Doak is now,
39:53
Speaker 1: but it's 70,000. In Tuscaloosa, you're talking about a gathering
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Speaker 1: of 100,000 people. So if it's at night, you've got
39:58
Speaker 1: 100,000 people. If you're in Neyland and it's at night,
40:01
Speaker 1: you've got 100,000 people. At LSU, a night game the
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Speaker 1: other night, you've got 102,000 people. I mean, that's a
40:04
Speaker 1: pretty serious safety situation if you can't. not just playing
40:19
Speaker 1: the game, just a safety situation for humanity. So I
40:23
Speaker 1: applaud all these cities, and I'm not saying Tuscaloosa is
40:27
Speaker 1: any different than Auburn or Baton Rouge or Knoxville. I'm
40:30
Speaker 1: sure they all got these massive contingency plans. So I
40:34
Speaker 1: was just interested to see if they did or if
40:38
Speaker 1: they were going to do it after what we saw
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Speaker 1: in Tallahassee and have been in place for years. Not
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Speaker 1: that something can't surprise them and make something happen, but
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Speaker 1: I was told, that what happened in Tallahassee would not
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Speaker 1: happen in Tuscaloosa.
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Speaker 6: Okay.
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Speaker 1: Well, that's good news. It's interesting that they had at
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Speaker 1: least thought through that. I mean, I guess it makes sense.
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Speaker 1: Not saying that there can't be like a 15-minute, 20-minute,
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Speaker 1: 30-minute delay until they get the backup plan go, but
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Speaker 1: there is a backup plan to where they would have
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Speaker 1: all lights when they kick that thing off and headsets
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Speaker 1: and everything.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: School board.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
41:13
Speaker 1: Everything needed. That elephant sound. Like, I don't know. I mean,
41:19
Speaker 1: if you're Florida State or any program, there's got to be,
41:24
Speaker 1: like you were just talking about, what's the bare minimum?
41:26
Speaker 1: What do we have to have to play the game?
41:28
Speaker 1: We've got to have a scoreboard. We've got to have
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Speaker 1: a clock, unless you're the Big Ten. Florida State had
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Speaker 1: security lights on.
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Speaker 2: You saw that.
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Speaker 1: So safety of the people were never in jeopardy. We
41:35
Speaker 1: need stadium lights. We need headsets on the sidelines. Now,
41:38
Speaker 1: if the ice cream is melting in the suites, they'll
41:41
Speaker 1: live with it. But we've got to play the game.
41:43
Speaker 1: I mean, they were having to talk about playing that
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Speaker 1: game on Tuesday.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you can't get to that point, right? Yeah,
41:48
Speaker 1: I just thought that was interesting because we were wondering, man,
41:52
Speaker 1: if you're watching that, wow, what if that happened to
41:54
Speaker 1: us and we should go to work and do a
41:55
Speaker 1: plan the next day? But apparently at a lot of places,
41:58
Speaker 1: those plans have been in place for years and years
42:00
Speaker 1: and years. Brent Venables is the head coach at Oklahoma.
42:04
Speaker 1: Grade for Brent Venables in his time in Norman already.
42:08
Speaker 1: What's his grade? It's complicated. There have been times it's
42:14
Speaker 1: been a D. I mean, they went to the playoffs
42:18
Speaker 1: last year, but I can't give that an A, can I?
42:20
Speaker 1: They went to the playoffs and lost a home game
42:22
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. I can't give that an A. They
42:23
Speaker 1: didn't just lose a home game. They blew a 17-0 lead.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: To a team, you know, they'd already beaten once, which
42:28
Speaker 1: that really, on the road, I know they always say
42:31
Speaker 1: it's hard to beat a team twice in one year. Yeah.
42:37
Speaker 1: I would probably give Venables a B-. Yeah, that's exactly
42:41
Speaker 1: where I went, B-. It's a little above average at
42:44
Speaker 1: C +. Yeah, but Oklahoma's a proud program. I mean,
42:47
Speaker 1: that is a program that expects to win championships. He
42:50
Speaker 1: hasn't done that at Oklahoma. They haven't played for the SEC.
42:54
Speaker 1: They haven't won the SEC. Texas has already at least
42:56
Speaker 1: played for an SEC in their time in this league.
42:58
Speaker 1: They love him. They love this guy at Oklahoma. Do
43:01
Speaker 1: they really? Yeah, when I was out there in Norman,
43:03
Speaker 1: the fans loved him. Now, that was pregame, and that
43:06
Speaker 1: was them in the playoffs. But they like Brent Venables,
43:12
Speaker 1: the person. They like Brent Venables. Good guy. Love cheering
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Speaker 1: for him. Just the opposite of what Mike Norvell is
43:19
Speaker 1: experiencing right now at Florida State. They don't like him.
43:22
Speaker 1: But in Oklahoma, they like him. If they ever decided
43:25
Speaker 1: to fire him, it would be a tough fire. I
43:27
Speaker 1: don't know if you read this real quick on Norvell,
43:30
Speaker 1: but They announced, apparently, when the video was working, video
43:35
Speaker 1: screen was working, at the Florida State game, SMU game,
43:38
Speaker 1: that Florida State's band had been invited to the Rose Parade,
43:41
Speaker 1: to march in the Rose Parade. They will be the
43:43
Speaker 1: only thing at the Rose Bowl for Florida State. The
43:45
Speaker 1: team certainly won't be there. But they had been invited
43:48
Speaker 1: to be at the Rose Bowl Parade. And I think
43:50
Speaker 1: it was a surprise announcement to either the fans of
43:53
Speaker 1: the band or everyone. And Mike Norvell, which, again, interesting
43:57
Speaker 1: choice here. Mike Norvell was... chosen to make the announcement
44:01
Speaker 1: on video, the pre-taped video. And apparently as the video started,
44:04
Speaker 1: the crowd started booing because Norvell was on it. They
44:06
Speaker 1: couldn't hear it? I don't know if they could not
44:08
Speaker 1: hear it, but the point was the crowd was booing
44:10
Speaker 1: just seeing Norvell on the video screen. So that's how
44:13
Speaker 1: toxic that has gotten. Oklahoma, Michigan. Brent Venables on how
44:18
Speaker 1: physical would their defense and offense want to take to
44:21
Speaker 1: this Big Ten game in the big house. Here is Venables.
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Speaker 4: You want to represent? A brand that is physical, that's tough,
44:31
Speaker 4: that's consistent. We've got to tackle a lot better this
44:34
Speaker 4: week than we did a week ago. These are real
44:38
Speaker 4: dudes that will be carrying the football. However Michigan played
44:45
Speaker 4: last week, we're going to bring out the best in Michigan,
44:47
Speaker 4: I can promise you. It's a talented football team. that's
44:52
Speaker 4: got tremendous pride and, again, a great staff that will
44:55
Speaker 4: have these guys prepared. Their O-line coach is one of
44:57
Speaker 4: the best in college football. And so it needs to
45:01
Speaker 4: bring out the best in our guys. But, again, I
45:04
Speaker 4: want that standard every single week. And you want it
45:08
Speaker 4: to be second nature to how you play. This is
45:12
Speaker 4: how we do it. This is the only formula for
45:15
Speaker 4: how you have success and how you win.
45:18
Speaker 1: He just got a contract extension. So this is not
45:21
Speaker 1: a hot seat discussion for him because he won't be
45:22
Speaker 1: on the hot seat. He just literally got a contract extension.
45:26
Speaker 1: But as far as the fan approval you're talking about goes,
45:29
Speaker 1: if they lose this game, now you're staring at two
45:31
Speaker 1: of your next three are at Georgia and the annual
45:34
Speaker 1: neutral site game against Texas. So in terms of fan approval,
45:38
Speaker 1: if you lose this game Saturday, you've got some tough
45:42
Speaker 1: games coming up and you're not too far removed from
45:44
Speaker 1: a potential two and three start. And I do wonder,
45:47
Speaker 1: how that fan approval would start to shift if they
45:49
Speaker 1: do that. Also, if you lost this game, you're basically
45:54
Speaker 1: losing to a team that Western Michigan beat last week.
45:56
Speaker 1: That's right. That'll be the perception. You wouldn't be just
46:00
Speaker 1: losing to Michigan. You would be losing to what people
46:02
Speaker 1: think is a crippled Michigan team. It is a Michigan
46:05
Speaker 1: team that is not your standard Bo Schembechler, Jim Harbaugh-era
46:09
Speaker 1: Michigan Wolverines. Big picture, though. Do you buy into what
46:14
Speaker 1: we've talked about for a couple of weeks now, that
46:17
Speaker 1: this is one of those weekends SEC versus Big Ten.
46:21
Speaker 1: Around the country for years and years because of the
46:25
Speaker 1: SEC dominance, other fan bases have asked the question, why
46:29
Speaker 1: in the heck do you guys in your stadiums chant SEC, SEC, SEC?
46:36
Speaker 1: Why is that such a big deal to you guys?
46:39
Speaker 1: So many other people would tell me, I'm a Michigan fan.
46:42
Speaker 1: I hate everybody else in our conference. I'm an Ohio
46:45
Speaker 1: State fan. I hate everybody else in our conference. I'm
46:47
Speaker 1: a Clemson fan. I hate everybody else in our conference.
46:51
Speaker 1: Why do you guys fly this SEC flag? And I
46:55
Speaker 1: don't have an answer for that. For me, it's sort
46:58
Speaker 1: of a regional pride thing. For me, it's always been
47:02
Speaker 1: the national media always puts the South down in a
47:06
Speaker 1: thousand different ways. And they used to do it in
47:08
Speaker 1: college football. And College football is sort of the way
47:12
Speaker 1: to smack Notre Dame or USC around a little bit.
47:15
Speaker 1: So that's what it was for me. But I don't
47:17
Speaker 1: know why.
47:18
Speaker 2: It's that way.
47:18
Speaker 1: But do you buy into the SEC flag waving on
47:23
Speaker 1: a weekend like this when it's Texas hosting Ohio State, Oklahoma,
47:28
Speaker 1: even down to Mississippi State at Minnesota? That's what I
47:31
Speaker 1: was going to ask you. Arizona State's at Texas A & M.
47:33
Speaker 1: I know Texas fans will be pulling for Arizona State.
47:35
Speaker 1: Do you think the rest of the conference teams are
47:38
Speaker 1: pulling for Arizona State?
47:40
Speaker 6: I don't.
47:41
Speaker 1: I think they watch that game and they want A &
47:42
Speaker 1: M to win it. Yeah, obviously if it's your rival. Yeah,
47:45
Speaker 1: I mean, because Texas... I'm not saying Alabama fans were
47:48
Speaker 1: cheering for Auburn. No, Alabama fans were flat out cheering
47:50
Speaker 1: for Baylor. I know that to be factual. But... But
47:53
Speaker 1: I think everyone else in the league, maybe Georgia fans too,
47:56
Speaker 1: but most of the rest of the conference is like, yeah,
47:57
Speaker 1: I want to see Auburn. Other than your rivals, I
47:59
Speaker 1: think it makes your conference look better.
48:00
Speaker 5: I agree.
48:01
Speaker 1: It makes your conference stronger. You want your conference to
48:03
Speaker 1: be viewed as the best conference in football because you
48:05
Speaker 1: want the respect you deserve for winning that conference or
48:07
Speaker 1: performing well in that conference. But the argument always is,
48:10
Speaker 1: so that only helps in this case, if you're an
48:12
Speaker 1: Alabama fan, this only helps Oklahoma recruiting. They make still
48:16
Speaker 1: a player. If you're Tennessee, Oklahoma, if they're good, that, that,
48:20
Speaker 1: that makes them more viable on the recruiting trail that
48:22
Speaker 1: hurts us in the long run in the portal koenig's
48:25
Speaker 1: tiger says the sec chan is not for me i
48:28
Speaker 1: dgas i don't give a piss about nothing but no
48:32
Speaker 1: uh about any sec team except auburn rtd4 i personally
48:36
Speaker 1: don't give a piss he uses it about anybody else
48:39
Speaker 1: in the sec other than bama he's very close to
48:41
Speaker 1: willie um I mean, a lot of people in the
48:46
Speaker 1: chat like, hang on, let me dig back through. Ambler47,
48:50
Speaker 1: people hate the SEC because they hate the South. And
48:52
Speaker 1: he says that's why he thinks a lot of people
48:54
Speaker 1: unify behind that. Yeah, that's where I come from because
48:58
Speaker 1: I'm older, and it used to be before we had
49:01
Speaker 1: the ESPN-ABC deal, it always felt like it was the
49:05
Speaker 1: Northern media against the South.
49:08
Speaker 3: I felt that after going out to cover the Rose
49:10
Speaker 3: Bowl with the Indiana media.
49:11
Speaker 1: Yeah. It was more about the South rather than playing
49:15
Speaker 1: the SEC.
49:16
Speaker 3: I lived in the Midwest for a couple years, too,
49:17
Speaker 3: and there's a lot of preconceived notions. that still exist
49:20
Speaker 3: up in those parts of the country. I married a
49:23
Speaker 3: girl from New Jersey. In the Northeast and the Midwest,
49:26
Speaker 3: those still exist thoughts about the South.
49:31
Speaker 1: The three of us, we were lucky enough to work
49:33
Speaker 1: in local TV for a period of time. Forrester and Brooks,
49:37
Speaker 1: you guys would agree that When people would come from
49:39
Speaker 1: other markets their first time to Alabama, the first thing
49:43
Speaker 1: they would always say to me, and now our TV
49:45
Speaker 1: station where I originally worked at NBC 13 was on
49:48
Speaker 1: Red Mountain overlooking the skyline. They would come in, they
49:51
Speaker 1: were like, I just pictured Alabama being flat. Oh, yeah.
49:56
Speaker 1: I thought it was plantation and farmland. That's the way
50:00
Speaker 1: it's always in the movies. I didn't know you guys
50:01
Speaker 1: had hills and mountains. People are stunned the fact that
50:04
Speaker 1: Birmingham actually has something we would call a mountain. They
50:07
Speaker 1: think it's farmland. But it's literally the start of the Appalachians. Yeah,
50:10
Speaker 1: the foothills, if you will. The foothills, if you will.
50:13
Speaker 1: So they were always surprised that beautiful landscape here. It's
50:17
Speaker 1: rolling hills. It's not the flat farmlands I used to
50:20
Speaker 1: see in in the movies. And I said, we're, we're
50:22
Speaker 1: a long way from gone with the wind.
50:24
Speaker 3: My friend, I had kind of backed off the, the
50:27
Speaker 3: rooting conference wide deal. Um, and then after the Rose
50:31
Speaker 3: bowl and seeing this victory lap, the big 10 has
50:34
Speaker 3: taken the last years.
50:35
Speaker 2: I'm back in.
50:37
Speaker 1: And that was my point of starting as Brooks and
50:38
Speaker 1: the big 10 has done nothing but big 10, big 10.
50:42
Speaker 1: They don't chant it.
50:43
Speaker 4: Yeah.
50:43
Speaker 1: Cause it doesn't work. They've done this.
50:45
Speaker 2: It wouldn't work.
50:47
Speaker 1: They've done this now for though, for, for, For a
50:50
Speaker 1: couple of years now, look what we've done, and it's
50:52
Speaker 1: not the SEC anymore. It's the Big Ten. It's not
50:53
Speaker 1: the SEC anymore. It's the Big Ten. And I think
50:56
Speaker 1: that's why this weekend is the start of several weekends.
50:59
Speaker 1: But this is a big one this weekend where I'm
51:02
Speaker 1: a lot of SEC, SEC this weekend. I think outside,
51:04
Speaker 1: I mean, Texas-Ohio State is going to be the most
51:06
Speaker 1: watched game of the entire weekend. I get that. But
51:10
Speaker 1: as far as most popular teams in the Southeastern Conference
51:12
Speaker 1: this year, I think this week, I think it'll be State.
51:15
Speaker 1: I think Ole Miss fans will pull for Minnesota. I
51:17
Speaker 1: think everybody else in the conference would love to see
51:19
Speaker 1: State go win a conference game. Or go win a
51:21
Speaker 1: non-conference game on the road at a Big Ten school.
51:24
Speaker 1: Because that's one thing we say a lot of times.
51:26
Speaker 1: I mean, if Mississippi State was in the ACC, where
51:28
Speaker 1: would they finish? That's right. If Mississippi State was in
51:30
Speaker 1: the Big Ten, where would they finish? And if you
51:31
Speaker 1: can go win at Minnesota, you would say, well, they're
51:34
Speaker 1: a mid-tier Big Ten team right there. Just winning at Minnesota. Yeah,
51:37
Speaker 1: I think so too. A couple of those games this weekend.
51:40
Speaker 1: You don't want to be Tennessee and go to Georgia
51:43
Speaker 1: Tech and lose like Forrester has projected in the upset alert.
51:47
Speaker 1: You don't want to be Missouri and go on the
51:48
Speaker 1: road to Kansas to lose to a Midland Big 12
51:51
Speaker 1: team on Friday night, Maine Fox. You've got some of
51:54
Speaker 1: those wave, fly the SEC banner games this weekend, including
52:00
Speaker 1: Arkansas and Utah. We'll talk a little bit about that
52:02
Speaker 1: coming up in the believer, non-believer segment that we'll do.
52:06
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