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- 0:00Speaker 1: Joining us right now, Anthony Cumia, my fellow weekend star
- 0:05Speaker 1: here on WABC. Thank you for waking up early and
- 0:09Speaker 1: joining us here on The Takeover. I got to ask you,
- 0:14Speaker 1: coming into the weekend, what was your biggest thought as
- 0:17Speaker 1: far as what the big stories were and what's on
- 0:19Speaker 1: your mind this morning? Hey, gentlemen.
- 0:22Speaker 2: How you doing? It's our third weekend warrior.
- 0:25Speaker 1: That's right.
- 0:25Speaker 3: Yes.
- 0:27Speaker 4: I certainly hope everybody's having a good Labor Day weekend.
- 0:30Speaker 3: How do you get three?
- 0:32Speaker 1: Well, he meant... Yeah, because John has a weekend show, too.
- 0:35Speaker 1: All four of us.
- 0:35Speaker 2: I apologize. Oh, boy, am I in trouble tomorrow.
- 0:39Speaker 1: You're in trouble. It was nice knowing you, Michael.
- 0:41Speaker 3: Well, listen, you know, this could be the morning show
- 0:44Speaker 3: in Boston.
- 0:45Speaker 2: By the way, Jake Novak, why would you make a
- 0:47Speaker 2: comment like that? Go ahead.
- 0:51Speaker 4: Well, you know, obviously with the 25th anniversary of 9-11
- 0:56Speaker 4: coming up, that's been weighing on my mind.
- 1:00Speaker 3: I just.
- 1:01Speaker 4: I didn't think it would hit me as hard as
- 1:04Speaker 4: it has over this past couple of days and going
- 1:08Speaker 4: into this Friday. And it's just topped off with the
- 1:13Speaker 4: anger I have toward Zoran Mamdani and his ilk. That
- 1:19Speaker 4: pen episode, giving a pen to a defender of terrorists
- 1:24Speaker 4: and terrorism from a 9-11 executive order he was signing.
- 1:30Speaker 4: It's calculated. I'm not going to sit here and give
- 1:32Speaker 4: him the benefit of the doubt one more second. He's
- 1:37Speaker 4: proven himself to be a piece of garbage and has
- 1:42Speaker 4: no empathy, sympathy, or anything really for the survivors, the
- 1:48Speaker 4: families of 9-11 victims.
- 1:52Speaker 2: So that's been weighing on me.
- 1:55Speaker 4: I know going into Friday has been tough for A
- 1:58Speaker 4: lot of people on last night's show, I spoke to
- 2:01Speaker 4: a gentleman that was a survivor from one of the buildings,
- 2:04Speaker 4: and he's from the same school of thought, and he
- 2:07Speaker 4: was there. He got out, obviously, but the people looking
- 2:13Speaker 4: and listening to Zoran Mamdani, it's just infuriating, and there
- 2:18Speaker 4: was nothing in my wildest dreams or nightmares that would
- 2:22Speaker 4: have led me to believe this story. is where new
- 2:26Speaker 4: york would be twenty five years later unit.
- 2:28Speaker 1: To give everyone of the more the details about what
- 2:31Speaker 1: anthony was talking about so you know the mayor mom
- 2:33Speaker 1: donnie on friday having one of those basically ceremonial moments
- 2:37Speaker 1: at city hall sitting at his desk signing proclamations saying
- 2:40Speaker 1: nine eleven is a day that we're gonna remember you
- 2:42Speaker 1: know meet not not a bill or a new law
- 2:44Speaker 1: or anything else like that as as it happens that
- 2:47Speaker 1: these events The pen that the mayor or president or
- 2:50Speaker 1: governor uses to sign these documents is handed over usually
- 2:55Speaker 1: to someone who is very emotionally connected to the proclamation
- 2:59Speaker 1: or the bill or something like that. So, for example,
- 3:02Speaker 1: when they had Amber Alert, when that law was passed,
- 3:05Speaker 1: they handed the pen over to the family of Amber's family,
- 3:07Speaker 1: that kind of thing. He hands the pen over. To
- 3:11Speaker 1: Ramzi Qasem, who is his chief counsel, who has a
- 3:14Speaker 1: history of defending al-Qaeda terrorists. This is not someone who
- 3:18Speaker 1: had an emotional connection in a good way or in
- 3:22Speaker 1: a sympathetic way to 9-11. This is literally going out
- 3:25Speaker 1: of his way, and they said it was being tone-deaf. No,
- 3:27Speaker 1: I don't think this was tone-deaf. I think this was
- 3:29Speaker 1: a deliberate attempt to stick it.
- 3:32Speaker 2: He literally should have taken that pen and handed it
- 3:35Speaker 2: off to Macklemore with his anti-Israel, his pro-Palestinian MetLife statements.
- 3:41Speaker 2: I mean, that's how stupid Moron Mamdani is.
- 3:44Speaker 1: I don't think it was stupid. I think it was
- 3:47Speaker 1: deliberate maliciousness.
- 3:50Speaker 3: I really do.
- 3:52Speaker 4: Yeah, and the fact that he handed it to Commissioner
- 3:55Speaker 4: Tisch and had her hand it to him, And her
- 3:59Speaker 4: face in that video, man, she did not look happy
- 4:02Speaker 4: about it. And all I could think of was the
- 4:05Speaker 4: scene from Casino Night. Where Pesci goes, oh, is this
- 4:08Speaker 4: your pen?
- 4:08Speaker 3: Oh, no.
- 4:09Speaker 4: You can tell my friend to go F himself with
- 4:11Speaker 4: the pen.
- 4:12Speaker 2: Oh, that scene gets brutal. By the way, that's a
- 4:15Speaker 2: great imitation.
- 4:17Speaker 3: Thank you, man. Yeah.
- 4:19Speaker 2: I'm like a minor bird.
- 4:20Speaker 4: I just repeated everything as a kid watching TV, and
- 4:23Speaker 4: I guess it paid off.
- 4:24Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's not like there's a dearth of people
- 4:27Speaker 1: here in New York City that could have been given that.
- 4:30Speaker 1: He could have given that.
- 4:30Speaker 3: Pen, too.
- 4:31Speaker 1: We're about to have our gala here. at WABC, we're
- 4:34Speaker 1: going to be honoring the first responders, honoring Governor Pataki.
- 4:38Speaker 1: I mean, in one second, Mayor Mamdani could have had
- 4:41Speaker 1: three or four of the first responders from 9-11 standing
- 4:43Speaker 1: behind him and giving the pass to them. It's not like, oh,
- 4:47Speaker 1: I had no one else to give it to. This
- 4:48Speaker 1: was a deliberate sticking it to, I mean, it was
- 4:51Speaker 1: almost like, it was basically kind of like a secret code. Like,
- 4:54Speaker 1: you know what you and I think about 9-11 and
- 4:56Speaker 1: all this stuff. You know, according to Zohra Mamdani, the
- 4:58Speaker 1: only real victim of 9-11 was his make-believe aunt, who
- 5:02Speaker 1: he says was afraid to wear her job on the subway.
- 5:05Speaker 1: Turns out it wasn't his aunt, and it's probably not true.
- 5:09Speaker 4: Yeah, these people think everything that they say goes away.
- 5:12Speaker 4: You know, it's not the 40s and 50s where if
- 5:15Speaker 4: a copy of the newspaper disappears, no one knows what
- 5:19Speaker 4: anyone said or did. We have video. We have audio.
- 5:23Speaker 4: of Zoran Mamdani speaking years ago. And he really comes
- 5:29Speaker 4: off as being very unsympathetic to the victims of 9-11,
- 5:33Speaker 4: their families, everyone else involved. And that didn't go away.
- 5:38Speaker 4: No one changes their mind like that. Oh, I was
- 5:41Speaker 4: thinking differently. Oh, I had a different mindset. Bull. It's
- 5:45Speaker 4: all the same vindictiveness. He has a hatred for, toward
- 5:53Speaker 4: america i believe that i believe he hates america he
- 5:57Speaker 4: wasn't born here he has no idea what it's like
- 6:00Speaker 4: to grow up in this country and he has no
- 6:02Speaker 4: idea what it was like to be an american on
- 6:05Speaker 4: nine eleven two thousand one and watching our country being
- 6:09Speaker 4: attacked in real time uh... and and it's despicable that
- 6:13Speaker 4: he on the twenty fifth anniversary is now the mayor
- 6:17Speaker 4: of new york city.
- 6:17Speaker 1: Let's bring in peter king former congressman peter king to
- 6:20Speaker 1: talk about this someone very intimately involved with the nine
- 6:23Speaker 1: eleven situation what was what are your thoughts uh... uh...
- 6:26Speaker 1: congressman king about this because this idea that some of
- 6:29Speaker 1: our calling it stupidity and tell that i think this
- 6:31Speaker 1: was a deliberate malicious uh... act by the mayor i really.
- 6:34Speaker 3: Do yeah i think we have to set the first
- 6:37Speaker 3: ones it's not to be with you guys today especially
- 6:39Speaker 3: in this week and also proud to be a part
- 6:41Speaker 3: of any cool you should rosenberg so that's.
- 6:46Speaker 1: Right we're taking over that's it said Anyway, as far
- 6:51Speaker 1: as Mandami, to me, what he did is absolutely disgraceful.
- 6:55Speaker 3: And I think we have to stop thinking this guy
- 6:57Speaker 3: is making mistakes or he's screwing up. He's not. He's
- 6:59Speaker 3: very smart. He knows exactly what he's doing. You don't
- 7:03Speaker 3: hand a pen to a terrorist lawyer when you're signing
- 7:06Speaker 3: a commemoration for 9-11 unless you have a real motive
- 7:10Speaker 3: of all the people he could have given it to,
- 7:11Speaker 3: of all the people in New York City, of all
- 7:13Speaker 3: the thousands of victims and their families. He gave it
- 7:17Speaker 3: to the lawyer for the terrorists. He knows what he's doing.
- 7:20Speaker 3: And this isn't by itself. You go back into what
- 7:22Speaker 3: he said in the past, whether it's into FADA, whether
- 7:25Speaker 3: it's posing for pictures with the unindicted co-conspirator from the
- 7:29Speaker 3: first 9-11 hijacking. This guy is bad, and he knows
- 7:32Speaker 3: what he's doing, and that makes him more dangerous. And
- 7:35Speaker 3: it's just important, I think, that we focus on that
- 7:38Speaker 3: and not say that somehow he's getting in on a
- 7:40Speaker 3: quirk or somehow he's making mistakes. No, this guy knows
- 7:43Speaker 3: what he's doing. He has an agenda, and we've got
- 7:45Speaker 3: to stay on it.
- 7:46Speaker 2: I mean, there really was about a thousand people that
- 7:51Speaker 2: he could have turned that pen over to. You're right.
- 7:55Speaker 2: It could have been to you, Congressman. It could have
- 7:58Speaker 2: been to Governor Pataki. It could have been to Secretary Lutnick,
- 8:05Speaker 2: who lost more family and friends working for him in
- 8:10Speaker 2: the building than I think anybody else. There are so many.
- 8:13Speaker 2: He could have just picked... Any one family who was
- 8:17Speaker 2: affected by 9-11, who had lost a loved one and
- 8:21Speaker 2: turned it over to him. In fact, what he could
- 8:23Speaker 2: have done is just, I don't know, maybe made commemorative
- 8:26Speaker 2: pens and handed one out to every single family member who...
- 8:30Speaker 2: Lost somebody. I mean, I remember, as I'm sure every
- 8:35Speaker 2: single one of you do, where I was exactly at
- 8:38Speaker 2: the moment of the first strike and then the second strike.
- 8:41Speaker 2: And I remember the horror, horror as I was walking
- 8:44Speaker 2: from downtown to uptown because there was no movement going
- 8:47Speaker 2: on anywhere. other than people walking with soot all over them.
- 8:52Speaker 2: I remember having a bottle of water, and I remember
- 8:55Speaker 2: there was this guy who was walking next to me,
- 8:58Speaker 2: and he was literally covered with soot. I remember giving
- 9:00Speaker 2: him the water to wash the soot away from his eyes.
- 9:04Speaker 2: Nobody asked if you were Republican, Democrat, or Independent. We
- 9:08Speaker 2: were all New Yorkers. We were all Americans who just
- 9:11Speaker 2: experienced the single worst moment of our lives.
- 9:16Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I want to get Congressman King and
- 9:18Speaker 1: Anthony to weigh in on this also. And here's something that,
- 9:22Speaker 1: if you listen to the Mamdani's of the world, and
- 9:24Speaker 1: I think this was one of the reasons why he
- 9:25Speaker 1: handed the pen to this Ramzi Qasem, is because for
- 9:29Speaker 1: people like them, this was, 9-11 is a sad event, whatever,
- 9:34Speaker 1: but the real problem is that it led to some
- 9:37Speaker 1: kind of Islamophobic wave in this country. And that is
- 9:40Speaker 1: patently false. There were no mass attacks on Muslim Americans
- 9:45Speaker 1: after 9-11. They were one or two incidents involving individuals.
- 9:49Speaker 3: That's it.
- 9:50Speaker 1: I don't believe his baloney story about his aunt or
- 9:53Speaker 1: whatever relative it was, who apparently wasn't even living in
- 9:56Speaker 1: the city at the time, being afraid to ride the subway.
- 9:58Speaker 1: You know, bunk. It's just not true.
- 10:00Speaker 2: No, no, no, no. That's not fair to say. It's
- 10:02Speaker 2: not fair to say. There was Islamophobia after 9-11.
- 10:06Speaker 1: But not mass attacks.
- 10:07Speaker 2: No, but there was Islamophobia. Many Muslims were extremely nervous
- 10:13Speaker 2: about being in public and so on. How I know,
- 10:18Speaker 2: I was running 285 yellow cabs in New York. Those
- 10:22Speaker 2: who were of the Sikh... Who are not Muslim.
- 10:27Speaker 3: Right.
- 10:28Speaker 2: They were very concerned because of the appearances of the Muslims.
- 10:33Speaker 1: People would mistake them.
- 10:34Speaker 2: And they were... Nobody came to work. They were afraid
- 10:37Speaker 2: to drive. And some were actually assaulted. So I understand it,
- 10:41Speaker 2: but not on the mass scale that Mamdani is trying
- 10:45Speaker 2: to put there.
- 10:46Speaker 4: And.
- 10:46Speaker 2: There's always going to be some form of Islamophobia. No
- 10:49Speaker 2: different than there's anti-Semitism. You have stupid people, and that's
- 10:54Speaker 2: what they are. Nevertheless, the way that Mamdani is putting
- 10:58Speaker 2: it out there is completely an over-exaggeration.
- 11:02Speaker 1: Yes, the old Norm Macdonald joke. Anthony Acumene, you know
- 11:04Speaker 1: this one.
- 11:05Speaker 3: Go ahead, Peter. I disagree. There was no Islamophobia. Those
- 11:08Speaker 3: Sikhs may have been nervous, but the fact is there
- 11:10Speaker 3: were more Jews attacked. Even at the height of what
- 11:13Speaker 3: people say is Islamophobia, there was far more anti-Semitic acts everywhere.
- 11:17Speaker 3: And the only bias and prejudice that I saw was
- 11:21Speaker 3: right here on Long Island. It was a massive interfaith movement.
- 11:24Speaker 3: rally that was held to bring everyone together. We had
- 11:27Speaker 3: the bishops there, we had rabbis there, we had Protestant
- 11:30Speaker 3: ministers there, and we had imams. And that day, when
- 11:34Speaker 3: everyone was calling for peace and unity, the imams and
- 11:37Speaker 3: the interfaith coordinator for the leading mosque on Long Island said,
- 11:40Speaker 3: there's no evidence the Muslims were involved, this could have
- 11:43Speaker 3: been Jews, and it could have been the CIA. They
- 11:45Speaker 3: were the ones that set that in motion. Considering what happened,
- 11:49Speaker 3: I would say it's Again, the anti-Semitism on good days
- 11:55Speaker 3: is worse than anything ever happened.
- 11:57Speaker 2: That is true. I wasn't making the comparison.
- 12:00Speaker 1: And by the way, I also thought that 9-11, and
- 12:02Speaker 1: I'd love to get everyone's thoughts on this, 9-11 also
- 12:06Speaker 1: showed how far this country had come from the days
- 12:09Speaker 1: of World War II. Because during World War II, there
- 12:11Speaker 1: were incidents of anti-Asian violence. We did have the internment
- 12:15Speaker 1: camps for the Japanese in California. And so for 70
- 12:18Speaker 1: years later, actually 60 years later for the country to respond,
- 12:22Speaker 1: nothing like that ever again was a sign of tremendous,
- 12:26Speaker 1: tremendous modernization and decency in the way that Americans think
- 12:31Speaker 1: and act. And for that to be misconstrued, you know,
- 12:34Speaker 1: so often... the Islamist narrative about whether it's Israel or
- 12:38Speaker 1: the United States is exactly the opposite of the truth.
- 12:41Speaker 1: So when they say genocide on the Palestinians, actually the
- 12:44Speaker 1: Palestinians are the fastest growing group in the region. It's
- 12:47Speaker 1: the exact opposite of genocide. When they say that, you know,
- 12:49Speaker 1: it's incredible. Go ahead.
- 12:51Speaker 4: One thing I noticed is we got a really fast
- 12:54Speaker 4: education on the difference between Sikhs and Muslims.
- 12:57Speaker 3: We did.
- 12:58Speaker 4: Because those poor Sikhs just try to work and get
- 13:02Speaker 4: out there and drive cabs and... whatever else, uh, we're
- 13:06Speaker 4: catching hell.
- 13:07Speaker 3: Yup. Yeah.
- 13:08Speaker 4: There were people that were getting beaten up and, uh,
- 13:11Speaker 4: and that was, uh, terrible, those poor people. Uh, but
- 13:14Speaker 4: there were a certain, uh, people that were doing something
- 13:17Speaker 4: and they got the crap beat out of them and
- 13:20Speaker 4: shut down really fast. They were selling dramatic photos of
- 13:25Speaker 4: the towers of people standing there, jumping off the towers,
- 13:29Speaker 4: all the horrors of that day. And on certain streets
- 13:34Speaker 4: around the city selling these photos. They got the crap
- 13:39Speaker 4: beat out of them, and you never saw them come
- 13:41Speaker 4: back on the streets again.
- 13:43Speaker 2: You know, you may also remember that there was a
- 13:45Speaker 2: building that was sold that was supposed to become some
- 13:49Speaker 2: sort of a Muslim center about a block or two
- 13:54Speaker 2: away from downtown where obviously the first building stood.
- 14:04Speaker 1: Congressman King, you know, we're in a situation now where,
- 14:08Speaker 1: of course, look, we know it's a losing battle to
- 14:11Speaker 1: try to stop Mayor Mamdani and Governor Hochul, who has
- 14:14Speaker 1: now been included by people, including the the Port Authority
- 14:17Speaker 1: Pension Fund group is retirement group is trying to stop
- 14:20Speaker 1: her as well from showing up to the 9-11 anniversary
- 14:24Speaker 1: marking solemn ceremonies coming up on Friday. But, you know,
- 14:30Speaker 1: how is this going to go down? I've heard that
- 14:32Speaker 1: there's going to be some booing. I've heard that the
- 14:34Speaker 1: more dignified response is going to be people are going
- 14:36Speaker 1: to turn their backs. They did that to Mayor de
- 14:38Speaker 1: Blasio a couple of times. What do you expect to
- 14:41Speaker 1: happen on that day when the mayor does indeed show
- 14:45Speaker 1: up and the governor does indeed show up?
- 14:47Speaker 3: I hope there's no scene. And that's what, from the start,
- 14:50Speaker 3: I was not that enthused about telling Mandami not to
- 14:53Speaker 3: be there, even though I do believe that now. I
- 14:55Speaker 3: don't want anything to detract from the people who died
- 14:57Speaker 3: that day, the families of the people who were down
- 15:00Speaker 3: there because of the victims who were murdered. So I
- 15:05Speaker 3: really think quietly ignore him. But I would hope there's
- 15:09Speaker 3: no demonstrations. I would hope there's no booing. Not that
- 15:11Speaker 3: I care about him. I don't want to see anything
- 15:14Speaker 3: that detracts from the memory of those great people who
- 15:18Speaker 3: were murdered that day and the anguish that their families
- 15:20Speaker 3: go through for 25 years now. So turning it back,
- 15:26Speaker 3: that would be fine, but nothing that really is going
- 15:29Speaker 3: to detract attention. I don't want the eyes of the
- 15:30Speaker 3: world focusing on anti-Mandami demonstrations or numbers at a time
- 15:37Speaker 3: when we should be thinking, to me, all of it
- 15:38Speaker 3: should count. All we should be focused on is those
- 15:41Speaker 3: poor people who were murdered that day and what their
- 15:43Speaker 3: families have gone through since.
- 15:45Speaker 2: And Mamdani should be sensitive enough to exactly the point
- 15:50Speaker 2: that you're making that he should not show up. If
- 15:53Speaker 2: what you're going to be doing by your appearance at
- 15:56Speaker 2: an event is going to cause this sort of eyeball
- 16:01Speaker 2: and attention, well, maybe the smart move to do is
- 16:04Speaker 2: not to show up at all.
- 16:07Speaker 3: It's not an easy decision. He's going to be there
- 16:10Speaker 3: because he thinks all eyes of the world will be
- 16:12Speaker 3: on him. And to him, that's a price worth paying.
- 16:15Speaker 3: And so I think we give up on the idea
- 16:20Speaker 3: that he's going to do the right thing. To him,
- 16:22Speaker 3: the right thing is to advance the cause of Islamism.
- 16:25Speaker 3: That's what he's focused on.
- 16:27Speaker 1: Well, whatever one should understand, too, is we can expect
- 16:29Speaker 1: the mainstream media to report any kind of disrespect to
- 16:33Speaker 1: Mamdani on Friday. whether it's a turn in the back,
- 16:36Speaker 1: whether it's booing as anti-Muslim sentiment. And it's not that.
- 16:40Speaker 1: This is because he has spoken out about, he has
- 16:44Speaker 1: been in public with people who say the United States
- 16:46Speaker 1: deserve this. I mean, I dare Hasan Piker and Mamdani
- 16:51Speaker 1: and other people to look in person, not just on
- 16:53Speaker 1: social media. To stand in front of a 9-11 victim
- 16:56Speaker 1: family member and say, America, your country deserved this. You
- 17:01Speaker 1: were a victim because of America, your own country.
- 17:04Speaker 2: Good luck.
- 17:05Speaker 1: They wouldn't have the guts to do that. That is
- 17:06Speaker 1: why he's going to be booed if he's going to
- 17:08Speaker 1: be booed. That is why people will turn his back
- 17:10Speaker 1: on him. It's not because he's a Muslim. In fact,
- 17:13Speaker 1: you know, he's missing a huge opportunity. If you weren't
- 17:15Speaker 1: such a socialist and trying to really destroy this country,
- 17:18Speaker 1: I agree. I believe he hates this country. His poll
- 17:21Speaker 1: numbers would go up 40 points if a few months
- 17:23Speaker 1: ago he had said, you know what? This is an
- 17:24Speaker 1: amazing country, an amazing city. Just 25 years after the
- 17:28Speaker 1: 9-11 attacks, they elected a Muslim man to be mayor.
- 17:31Speaker 1: What does that say about how great New York is?
- 17:33Speaker 1: If he had said that, if he had a political
- 17:35Speaker 1: consultant or someone who actually wanted him to succeed and
- 17:38Speaker 1: not destroy the city, his numbers would go up. All right,
- 17:40Speaker 1: let's take a break right now. This is definitely a
- 17:42Speaker 1: topic we have to hit more this week. It's so,
- 17:45Speaker 1: so important.