Latest / UK Column Radio / UK Column News Podcast 15th July 2024
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- 0:08Good afternoon. It's Monday, the fifteenth of July twenty twenty four, just
- 0:13after one o'clock. Welcome to UK column News. I'm your host today Brian
- 0:17Gerrish with me in the studio, whit Robinson. We're delighted to have Mark
- 0:22Hanson joining us from the United States. Well, it's a bit gray.
- 0:28We lost the football well England did anyway? Yeah you did? I did?
- 0:33You didn't. Okay, it's a bit gloomy, but bad things happening
- 0:37in the US. Mark tell us about the Trump incident. Well, no
- 0:46sooner did I finish more or less writing up and reflecting on the NATO summit,
- 0:51thinking that life was simple. That I got a call from a pastor
- 0:54friend. Hey, did you hear somebody took a shot at Trump? We
- 0:57don't know what condition he's in. It was Saturday at a Pennsylvania rally.
- 1:02And this first slide is from the Associated Press, that font of Wisdom wire
- 1:07service in the United States base there anyway, authorities hunt for clues, but
- 1:14motive of man who tried to assassinate Donald Trump remains elusive. Since then,
- 1:19there's been some other speculations on the so called Shuirter. We'll talk about that
- 1:23later. This is from the same AP article. The twenty year old man
- 1:26who tried to assassinate former President Trump first came to law enforcement's attention as Saturday's
- 1:34rally when spectators, they're saying, noticed him acting strangely outside the campaign event.
- 1:41The tip sparked a frantic search, but officers were unable to find him
- 1:46before he managed to get on a roof where he opened fire and so on
- 1:51and so forth. I won't read that whole thing they're saying. His name
- 1:55is Thomas Matthew Crooks, a rather interesting last name in this context. Thomas
- 1:59Matthew Cook's only twenty years old. And of course it's strange to consider that
- 2:05they already knew he acted strangely, and then he was able to get on
- 2:08a roof with all the king's horses and all the king's men in the form
- 2:13of the Secret Service, the Praetorian Guard, you might say, being right
- 2:16there, you would think a roof vantage point would be something they would have
- 2:21automatically closed off after somebody reported that he was acting strangely. Anyway, we
- 2:27have a video of the event from Fox News that then went to YouTube,
- 2:31so we can look at that to get a sense of what evidently happened.
- 2:37Oh that's a little bit old. That charts a couple of months old.
- 2:40And if you want to really see something that said, take a look at
- 2:44what happened right about to spare there? Are you ready? I'm you ready?
- 3:14Boom? How comes here? Stare? Body? Slady? You ready?
- 3:29Shot? Good? Shoots down. I'm gonna good to know clear,
- 3:34we're put it, We're clay, We're going. Come on, let me
- 3:45get my shoe. Let me get my shoes, sir, I got to
- 3:47let me get my shoes. Hold on your head, body, so we
- 3:51gotta go to bun. Let me get my s Okay, what's up?
- 3:57Let's olla. And as you can see there, gentlemen, Trump was acting
- 4:14defiant, put the fist in the air, indicating he's going to fight,
- 4:17fight, fight, And I would observe maybe you guys want to comment at
- 4:24this point a little bit. It's a little weird that they didn't turn the
- 4:28podium mic off so as to avoid giving away any other plans, protocols,
- 4:34immediate intentions of what they were going to do with Trump, because at that
- 4:39point they couldn't have known exactly how many shooters there could have been and what
- 4:44the risk factor was. So it's a little strange they didn't turn the mic
- 4:46off so they would keep their intentions private in that immediate aftermath. I don't
- 4:53know if you guys want to comment, I can. I can, of
- 4:55course keep going. Uh yeah, I mean, I don't say I don't
- 4:58know that the mic switched on or off would have been in their control,
- 5:01first of all, But I mean there are many many questions to ask about
- 5:04the activities of the so called Secret Service because you know, as you may
- 5:09be coming on to in a second, mark the police and the Secret Service
- 5:14where their attention was drawn to the guy on the roof and they apparently did
- 5:18nothing. And then there's this whole issue of why was he even given the
- 5:21opportunity to act defiant, as you say, because that certainly is not protocol.
- 5:29His head was completely exposed at that point, and I appreciated he said
- 5:32he told them to wit, but nonetheless, in that circumstance they should have
- 5:36been in control. So many many questions to be asked about the behavior of
- 5:43Secret Service there, and I'll just stand to that. And yes, I
- 5:46also found it astonishing that you had the sniper squored up on the roof,
- 5:51who would have been tasked to surveil to watch the whole area and particularly likely
- 5:58sniper position. And yet even when the crowd was shouting really quite loudly that
- 6:04they could see a man on the other roof off to Trump's right, there
- 6:11appeared to be no reaction from that sniper security team on the roof behind him.
- 6:17Yeah, I'm sure the oddities will keep piling up, and of course
- 6:21this issue can linger around. We can talk about some things in Extra today
- 6:26and probably next week there'll be some follow up. But continuing with this essential
- 6:30report in the immediate wake of the event, this next slide shows what they're
- 6:36saying is the suspect, Thomas Matthew Crooks, again a kind of weird name,
- 6:43suspect that it says here came within inches of killing Trump, but left
- 6:47few clues as to why. And they're saying it's a high school yearbook photo
- 6:53of this young man, and in this particular photo he looks even younger than
- 6:57twenty one. Is reminded a little bit of ad Amlanza, the purported shooter
- 7:01in the very strange Sandy Hook school shooting in Connecticut. I believe that was
- 7:06in Ladder twenty twelve. I won't go any further than that on that analogy,
- 7:11but there is that basic similarity this improbable looking shooter in terms of the
- 7:15person. Anyway, this is Mary, Sorry, just come in to come
- 7:21in there. I was intrigue because very quickly online a photograph of this young
- 7:30man, mister Crooks, appeared taken from the school, but it was tied
- 7:34in with a black Rock advert video. But it showed him presumably pretty close
- 7:42to his age now, whereas the photo that's been used in that article does
- 7:46seem to have him as effectively a little boy. But online you can see
- 7:51video where you can see him as he really is, which is a young
- 7:57man. Yeah, you would think that they would use a better photo than
- 8:03that for any reports. I mean, you might do an ad on is
- 8:07here's how he looked when he was younger, but the main photo to tell
- 8:13the story, you would think they would use the most up to date photo
- 8:16possible. Anyway, continuing on, we'll walk through this, covering not all
- 8:22the ground but some essential things. This is from the Atlanta Journal Constitution,
- 8:26a major newspaper in southeast US. The photographer who captured this iconic image recounts
- 8:33the moment shots were fired at Donald Trump. As the FBI investigates the attack
- 8:37on former Donald Trump's campaign rally as an attempted assassination and an active domestic terror,
- 8:45they're making that allegation now. The Associated Press photojournalists who capture the image
- 8:48of a defiant Trump raising his fist after being targeted, described the moment's shots
- 8:54were fired. The photojournalist said quote, I was right in front of the
- 8:58stage, directly in front of the stage. It was a normal rally,
- 9:01you know, I've done it a hundred times, and overmail lef shoulder,
- 9:07I heard several pops and I knew immediately. He says it was gunfire.
- 9:11And this is Evan Vucci, the AP photo journalist. This is what he
- 9:16said. The former president, his ear covered in blood from what he said
- 9:20was a gunshot, was quickly pulled away by Secret Service agents. And of
- 9:24course Mike made a good point. It's strange that they let him raise his
- 9:28head the way they did, and at that point, not knowing exactly what
- 9:33the overall scenario was that would subject Trump to additional danger. And these are
- 9:41some other observations. I started getting a lot of phone calls, as you
- 9:43might imagine, and I also placed a lot of phone calls. And Brian
- 9:48McClain a good contact of mine, a TNT radio host that's based in Australia.
- 9:54It has a lot of US hosts. Brian's based in Temple, Texas.
- 9:58He's an I expert, and he has some reasonable knowledge of firearms.
- 10:03He understands there reportedly was no external security perimeter established and possibly a lack of
- 10:11three designated marksman security teams. And it appears he heard there was no quote
- 10:16intel surveillance recon drone overhead. Evidently drones are fairly commonly used, and maybe
- 10:22this one did not include that, among other oddities, including the advanced threat
- 10:31assessment seemed to be lacking. Then a friend of mine, Alan Knutsen,
- 10:35out of the Greater Dallas area, kind of a Trump aficionado, a talented
- 10:41writer in his own right, kind of a blogger. He says, was
- 10:46this a massive secret service failure? The agenda not to give Trump good protection
- 10:52seems evident and I didn't write this in there, guys. But he also
- 10:56added, could this have been drug induced on the part of the shoot or
- 11:00maybe even kind of a Manchurian candidate triggered kind of thing where he's placed under
- 11:05hypnosis, triggered by an image or a phrase or a word, he then
- 11:11acts out a shooting and then if he wasn't shot dead like he reportedly was,
- 11:16then he wouldn't remember actually doing the event. People have even ascribed that
- 11:20to Lee Harvey Oswald way back in the JFK days in Dallas. That's been
- 11:24speculated on at any rate. Sheriff Joe or Pyle called me back. He
- 11:31was at the Republican National Convention. In fact, he's there all this week
- 11:35in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. He told me, I'm angry, it says here,
- 11:39I'm very sad. I think he'll be okay. He kept saying,
- 11:43fight, fight, fight, He's a fighter, And he says that he's
- 11:46really anticipating, as is many in the Republican Party Trump's presidential acceptance speech.
- 11:54Excuse me, that's supposed to be given at the Milwaukee National Convention this coming
- 12:00Thursday. So evidently that's when Trump will accept the GOP nomination for president.
- 12:05And we could go on, like I say, there's plenty of room in
- 12:09extra and next week and follow ups as things are fleshed out and as I
- 12:13study it more. But there were so many things that were going on since
- 12:18that debate where Biden really bombed out versus Trump back on June twenty seventh on
- 12:24CNN, and many many nasty things said by the Biden campaign against Trump,
- 12:30including that he's another Hitler. But as as is reported here by Zero Hedge,
- 12:35Biden is now haunt halting excuse me, his Trump is hilter. Excuse
- 12:41me, Trump is Hitler. Excuse me. Ad campaign after the assassination attempt
- 12:46and other enemies of Trump announced are now toning down their rhetoric. So there
- 12:52you go, guys. What a way to start the day on the report
- 12:56here. Okay, thank you very much for that. Well, I'll just
- 13:00say I picked up on the similar images from the BBC. Let's pop the
- 13:03first one up, which is the one you show, but note the headline
- 13:07from the BBC bullets blood and a raised fist. So it's almost like branding
- 13:15Trump, who's just been through this event, branding him in the way that
- 13:20the BBC does dramatic images from the Trump rally. But when you scroll down
- 13:24through these very very high resolution images, this is one that caught my attention,
- 13:30complete with the circle. This was on the BBC's website with no explanation.
- 13:35But of course for most people, they're going to look at this and
- 13:39think that this is a shot of the bullet passing his head. The weapons
- 13:43expert has already pointed out that basically this shot is too low for the shot
- 13:48that clipped his ear. But nevertheless, I was puzzled about this because essentially,
- 13:54what is this image? The BBC didn't explain it. I believe they're
- 13:58just a lowing an idea to come into the public mind. Is the BBC
- 14:03suggesting a bullet in flight has been captured? Well, I think that's exactly
- 14:07what they're doing. If this is the case, then I need to ask
- 14:11how it was captured, because photographing a bullet in flight is extremely difficult,
- 14:16and we might ask, or I asked earlier this morning, was the bullet
- 14:22captured? Because it was expected. You challenged me on that, Mike,
- 14:24and we had a very very interesting discussion, and that's then produced this article
- 14:33for us which we found. So can Doug Mills photo of a bullet and
- 14:37President Trump be real? Yes? Here as how so, if we take
- 14:41out a little bit of the key stuff from this. According to Politico,
- 14:46Mills, the photographer was taking photos with a sunny camera capable of up to
- 14:50thirty frames per second one eight thousandth of a second, though they didn't say
- 14:56which one or what setting it was using. Mills is known to have spoken
- 15:01about why he switched to this Sony camera in the past. We now think
- 15:05he's using a Sonny A nine, a camera we actually covered last year with
- 15:11the heading this camera can literally stop bullets and it's a fascinating little sentence.
- 15:18But it goes on to say that in that case he might have been shooting
- 15:22one eight thousandth of the second as it was a bright day, But the
- 15:24camera offers up to one hundred and twenty frames per second burst and one eighty
- 15:31thousandth of the second, not that anyone would choose that setting unless actually planning
- 15:37for a bullet. So this was quite an extraordinary article. What's your thoughts?
- 15:43Well, I think that last quote sums it up. How was this
- 15:48image captured? Was? I mean, somebody, I'll have to work out
- 15:50what the actual odds of capturing it under normal circumstances are. It's so unlikely
- 15:58as to be possible. Really, So was he using this special high frequency
- 16:06mode in order to get this image? And if so you know, anytime,
- 16:10as you said earlier today, anytime these types of images have been caught
- 16:12in the past, it's very carefully staged and very carefully set up. And
- 16:18so was he expecting this to happen. These are the questions that need to
- 16:22be asked, right, So to be clear to our audience, we're not
- 16:25saying this isn't a photograph of one bullet passing Trump's head. But at the
- 16:30moment there is no formal analysis and it would appear that the BBC is just
- 16:36completely skated over this really important question. So we'll continue to dig and see
- 16:42what we get. Now with regard to Trump and Biden, as have a
- 16:48little listen to a clip of Victorian Newland speaking, then I cannot not ask
- 16:56you that question. If Trump is elected, yes, we'll happen to your
- 17:00brain. Well he agreed to give put in his demanded territories. Well,
- 17:03first of all, I don't believe Donald Trump will be elected by the American
- 17:07people. This man is a felon, He is a liar, He is
- 17:11not a supporter of basic US democratic freedoms and principles. He's talking about locking
- 17:18up Americans, locking up immigrants, hurting our economy, et cetera. So
- 17:22I don't think that Donald Trump is going to be president. So if that's
- 17:26what Putin's betting on, he's going to get a unhappy surprise. I think
- 17:32that's that is number one. Well, we don't know what the unhappy surprise
- 17:37was meant to be in her mind, but she's clear she wants Boyden in
- 17:41order to keep the war and the killing and the carnage in Ukraine going.
- 17:45Let's have a little cat Boyden and see what he had to say about himself
- 17:52to leave for the next four years. George, I'm a guy to putt
- 17:56NATO together, the future thought that experided. I'm the guy that shut put
- 18:03down no one thought could happen. I'm the guy that put together South Pacific
- 18:07Initiative with ARCUS. I'm the guy that got fifty nations not only in Europe,
- 18:14outside of Europe as well to help Ukraine. I'm the guy that got
- 18:18Japanese to expand their budget. So I mean these For example, when I
- 18:25decided we used to have forty percent of the computer chip and we invented the
- 18:29chip a little ship, the computer chip scenithing from cell phone or weapons.
- 18:34Well, there we are he's the man that did everything. He's got the
- 18:37whole world on side, trust Joe Biden. He's thinking clearly as a cause.
- 18:41Kir Stormer is trying to intimate and where are we going to go?
- 18:45I predict more war and more war if Boyden comes back into power, well
- 18:52one hundred percent. But my question would be will the narrative really change that
- 18:56much if Trump gets back in the party. I think he demonstrated in this
- 19:00first term he wasn't able to deal with the US defense industry, defense,
- 19:06the Pentagon, and so on. So I'm not sure anything would particularly change
- 19:11if he manages to win this election, But we shall see. Maybe we
- 19:15can talk to Mark about that a little bit more an extra now, last
- 19:18week we were talking about Orban's trip to Kiev first and then to Moscow and
- 19:25then to Beijing. Well, Chatham House, the Role Institute for International Affairs,
- 19:30is going nuts over this. We were talking about how the European leaders
- 19:33were going nuts over this. So I'm just going to run through this article
- 19:37which is published by our major Van Reege. If that's how you pronounce her
- 19:41name, Orban is using Hungary's EU Council presidency. The bulldogs EU norm.
- 19:48She says, less than two weeks in the Hungary's EU Council presidency, Orban
- 19:52is clearly shown he will not play by the rules. The EU must come
- 19:56up with a response. So let's have a look and see what she is
- 20:00saying. The role of the member state holding the presidency is to drive the
- 20:03legislative agenda by sharing Council meetings, ensuring good cooperation with other EU institutions,
- 20:10and ensure continuation of EU policy agenda. So don't do anything to stop the
- 20:15war. Make sure you only reinforce that idea. She goes on to say,
- 20:18while these trips, these are Orban's trips are technically all bilateral trips.
- 20:22Orban has tried to create confusion by displaying EU flags in Kiev and using the
- 20:27Hungarian presidency logo on promotional material for his trip to China. How dare he
- 20:33while these trips are technical, Sorry, that's a repeat. So traveling to
- 20:37Russia to meet the head of a government under EU sanctions which has disregarded the
- 20:41territorial integrity of another state is unprecedented, she says, perhaps more importantly,
- 20:47enabling confusion over whether he represents Hungary or also the EU on his trips is
- 20:52potentially breaching EU law to address the challenge of Hungary's democratic backsliding, with holding
- 20:57funds remains perhaps the most effective lever the European Commission has so got stop giving
- 21:04Hungry any money from the EU and for dealing with a transactional realist like orbit,
- 21:11even though it has impacted has a limited impact in the past. But
- 21:15instead of withholding funds on an ac ad hoc basis, she said, the
- 21:21European Commission should make a concerned, long term and planned effort and focusing on
- 21:26media freedom, civil liberties and strengthening and independent judiciary with cohesion or agricultural fund
- 21:33funds used as leverage. So this is really the response that she thinks that
- 21:37EU should be pursuing. She goes on Orban is a realist too only response
- 21:42to hard power expressions of anger on social media by other heads of government or
- 21:48leaders of the EU institutions will not bother them in the slightest, especially now
- 21:52as gaining allies and is no longer as isolated in Europe or on the world
- 21:56stage as he once was. The EU needs a long term approach for deterearing
- 22:02and correcting behaviors by member states that undermind the European Project. So I don't
- 22:08know what you think about that, Brian, but I just thought that the
- 22:11rhetoric and this was absolutely staggering from this British thing tank telling the EU what
- 22:18to do because at all costs, we've got to make sure we continue and
- 22:22build the war rather than I mean, peace is not something we should be
- 22:26looking at at all. No. I thought it was really excellent that you're
- 22:30going to use agricultural funds, which presumably in the first instance, are there
- 22:34to help people grow crops and feed themselves. You're going to use food as
- 22:40a weapon for further war within the EU. But this is the European Union
- 22:45project, Mike. We've been warning about the viciousness of the European Union for
- 22:48a great many years, so I'm really not surprised at all. It's the
- 22:53iron fist in the velvet glove approach and somebody who's stood up for peace.
- 22:59They've made a journey to talk to the Russians on the basis of peace,
- 23:03and they've got to be stamped out of existence. This is utterly brutal.
- 23:08Molok, welcome to your European colleagues. I don't know what your response would
- 23:14be, well, what is the European project? Would be one basic question?
- 23:21Right that? Orbon is so, you know, breaking with such impunity,
- 23:29you know, what's he supposed to do? Actually, to meet with
- 23:32Putin and to go to Kiev and everything he's doing sounds like much more of
- 23:37a logical approach to try and get a handle on the overall situation and bring
- 23:42a ceasefire about I would think that they should take a more objective look at
- 23:47what he's doing. I suspect they don't want to look deeper because they might
- 23:51find he's actually doing the right thing. But there we go. Well,
- 23:55of course the war is what they want, and the vicious war in Ukraine
- 23:57continues utterly sickening if you get into the detail of what's happening on the ground.
- 24:03I've chosen some video clips so that our audience at least understands the basic
- 24:08of what's happening, and this first one demonstrates two things. We've got an
- 24:14attack on a train, but also there's the clarity of the surveillance video from
- 24:18the drone, and Russia is able to do this ever deeper into Ukraine,
- 24:25So a military train with armored vehicles and Russia strikes this with a massive missile
- 24:32strike, of of course, very precise accuracy. So this is the reality.
- 24:37Russia is now able to look deeper into Ukraine and to target this sort
- 24:42of thing. And this is the second big military convoy train that the Russians
- 24:48have hit, destroying a large number of people and also a large number of
- 24:52Ukrainian military with it. Secondary explosions going on in this clip. But then
- 24:57also we've got the change in Russian weapons and these incredibly large Russian bombs up
- 25:03to three thousand kilograms, and this shows you what almost looks like a nuclear
- 25:11cloud. This is such a huge explosion, and using these immensely accurate weapons,
- 25:15the Russians can simply remove Ukrainian supply bases or ammunition depots in one strike.
- 25:23But smaller bombs are also being used to kill flush out Ukrainian troops in
- 25:30the hedgerows that form the defense lines. In many cases when the fighting has
- 25:37moved to countryside areas, the only places that the Ukrainians and indeed the Russians
- 25:42can hide are these tree lines. But it's the Russians that have got these
- 25:47immensely powerful weapons to deal with the Ukrainian positions, so the Ukrainian casualties you
- 25:52can just watch happening on screen. This is another example of what happens when
- 25:59these sorts of weapons hit these very narrow tree lines, and there's no doubt
- 26:03that the majority of the Ukrainians are going to be dead rather than injured.
- 26:10But we've also got precision artillery on the Russian side, and throughout the battle
- 26:14the Russians have demonstrated a great advantage in numbers. So if we just play
- 26:19this clip here, this shows what happens with a precise strike on a building.
- 26:26This is in a small urban area where of course the Russians are looking
- 26:30to take out again concentrations of Ukrainians, but also the military supplies. And
- 26:37if we bring this one in, some of our viewers may find this one
- 26:41disturbing. This is happening to both sides, both the Ukrainians and the Russians,
- 26:48but this is the use of drones to hunt individual soldiers on the battlefield
- 26:53very cruel and callous, and particularly with the idea that Western nations are watching
- 27:00this happen in order to increase their own performance in this field. So we
- 27:06see here video taken with I would guess infra red camera at night. But
- 27:11these are troops being killed by distant observer operating the drone. And this is
- 27:18why NATO and the Western countries at the moment are so desperate to get in
- 27:22amongst this conflict, because it is so utterly horrific and brutal. But the
- 27:27power of the drones, of course, isn't just against troops. We've also
- 27:33got a fine example here of what happens with a Russian drone attack on a
- 27:37Ukrainian tank, and of course we are seeing complete destruction of this particular tank
- 27:44with no survivors whatsoever. The Russians are also using cluster munitions. Remember it
- 27:51was the Ukrainians that first used these munitions within the rockets supplied by the West,
- 27:59but the Russian have been particularly using this sort of weapon or wooded areas
- 28:03to flush out the Ukrainian defenders, and in many parts of the Eastern Dombas
- 28:08Front, extremely large areas of woodland have now been decimated as a result of
- 28:15the use of these types of cluster munitions. And if that shot is taken
- 28:21from some distance, then this clip shows what happens when these sorts of weapons
- 28:26are used on the forest strips. Which, as I've already said, often
- 28:33form strong defensive positions and the resulting fires and carnage is truly horrific. So
- 28:44this is the reality of the situation on the front, and of course none
- 28:48of this is being reported either by the media in UK, especially the BBC
- 28:55or the British Ministry of Defense. We are simply told that the Ukrainians continue
- 29:00to win when the reality is the exact opposite. But Ministry of Defense Twitter
- 29:06site x came up with a new plan because we're back on really Russians eating
- 29:12babies. This is extremely unpleasant little clip because I regard it as pure propaganda,
- 29:18but let's have a look at it. Rape for cries, no training,
- 29:56no armory, no financial backing. It is as devastating as bullets and
- 30:00bombs. So depressing, miserable music by the British Ministry of Defense as it
- 30:40attempts to pin sexual war crimes on the Russians. These are, of course
- 30:45just reports that have been made through the Ukrainian government system. But if we
- 30:48bring up on screen the real level of casualties, now we can't be absolutely
- 30:55sure where we've got to, but we're pretty confident these are somewhere in the
- 30:59region because of the number of channels reporting it. Ukrainian dead possibly up to
- 31:04around half a million, and daily casualties certainly over the last few weeks,
- 31:10as that fighting is now erupting right the way across the front as Russians move
- 31:15forward, up to two thousand Ukrainian casualties per day for the Russians possibly dead
- 31:22at one hundred thousand, and casualties possibly up to one thousand a day.
- 31:29But the reality over the course of the war so far rapidly approaching nine hundred
- 31:34days, is that the Ukrainian casualties in dead and wounded greatly greatly outweigh the
- 31:41Russians because of the Russian strength of equipment. And if I just bring in
- 31:45this truly horrible little bit of propaganda by the Ministry of Defense against those casualties
- 31:52of men and women on the battlefield, the important thing for the Ministry of
- 31:57Defense is two hundred eighty seven claimed conflict related sexual assaults or violence in Ukraine
- 32:07pointed at the Russian side. So I just want to say, Mike,
- 32:10the cynicism of the uk at the moment in keeping this war going and keeping
- 32:17fighting until the last Ukrainian is truly appalling, and I'm sure there's many old
- 32:23labor supporters who are now deeply shocked to see that kir Stormer wants to keep
- 32:30this carnage going. And we should just make the point again as we made
- 32:35last week and in previous programs. You know, sexual violence is a weapon
- 32:38of war. Can't be a weapon of war if there is in the war,
- 32:43So surely the first thing to do is to stop the war instead of
- 32:46trying to use it to justify the continuation of a war, which is really
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- 33:58the UK Column. Just on the subject of Trump, I think that some
- 34:02people might be unaware that J. Michael Waller did some two really good interviews
- 34:07with me, specifically talking about problems with the security services in the United States
- 34:15and that includes the CIA and the FBI, and he's talking about the breakdown
- 34:20in performance. So if you haven't seen that those interviews, get online and
- 34:24have a look because I think they're highly pertinent to the assassination attempt on Trump.
- 34:31And coming out tomorrow the sixteenth, one o'clock, we've got my interview,
- 34:37second interview with doctor Michael Nells where he's talking about Alzheimer's and what people
- 34:44can do in order to stay fit and healthy and keep their mental capacity until
- 34:51mature years. So this is something which will be of value to all of
- 34:54us. And I'd also like to say that John Bowdwin, who is an
- 35:01American who's produced essentially an algorithm which is able to post death data in the
- 35:09States, has obtained one point four million death certificates which is now able to
- 35:16process. And at one o'clock on Thursday, that's this coming Thursday, there's
- 35:22an interview with John and Debbie Evans where he's talking about the amazing work he's
- 35:25doing to expose what is really happening to people's health in America. And i'd
- 35:31also like to say make sure you get that Saturday Octo, sorry, Saturday
- 35:37the nineteenth of October this year in your diary for a location in Bristol still
- 35:43to be announced, which will be UK column appearing really really live and we'll
- 35:49look forward to meeting you all there. Okay, now, in a minute,
- 35:53Mark will be talking about more on NTO and what's been following from last
- 35:58week's events. But just before get to that, one of the things that
- 36:00Needle published following their major event last week was their Industrial Capacity Expansion Pledge.
- 36:08It's a fantastic document. Everybody will appreciate it absolutely, and you'll particularly appreciate
- 36:14it if you've been paying attention to the UK Calumn for a number of years,
- 36:16because we've been talking about this for a lot of years. Now here's
- 36:21a key quote. We will leverage the Alliance's role as convener, standard SETER
- 36:27requirement SETER and aggregator and delivery enabler to expand defense industrial capacity. So when
- 36:34we've been talking about EU Defense Union, we've been talking about its connections to
- 36:37NATO, we've been talking about the industrial aspect of this, which is absolutely
- 36:44key. So if we bring it back on screen again, they have issued
- 36:46a pledge and they pledge to strengthen defense industry across the Alliance, to increase
- 36:53large scale multinational procurement, to accelerate adoption of new technology, and to enhance
- 37:01interoperability and interchangeability. This is amongst several other things that they're pledging. And
- 37:07the key thing here, Brian, is what we're looking at a single point
- 37:09command and control. This is the term that David Ellis used to use.
- 37:14It's a really key point aspect of this and of the European Defense Union,
- 37:19so called single point command and control and single point procurement. So a centralized
- 37:24organization decides effectively controls what each member state is able to do, what they're
- 37:30able to purchase, and where they're able to purchase it from. And of
- 37:35course this is the tying in of the military and the industrial complex to these
- 37:40supranational structures, whether it's an EU level or NATO level, and it's extremely
- 37:45dangerous because it's effectively corporatizing everything that they do. Indeed, and the lid
- 37:52has got to come off this at some state to the R and E.
- 37:54Is that becoals Russia producing its own ammunition and equipment, military vehicles is easily
- 38:01outstripping the West combined. And of course the problem with the European and the
- 38:07NATO system is that you've got too many disparate producers of equipment, and you've
- 38:14got this constant coordination problem which is now demonstrating that it's full of holes.
- 38:20But yes, they keep pushing. So to just give you an impression of
- 38:22this, each nation will be permitted to follow its own national plan, but
- 38:27the plans will be shared and coordinated through needle. Could you explain to me
- 38:30how that works? How are you permitted to follow a national plan if the
- 38:35national plan has to be coordinated through needle. Well, as we said last
- 38:38week from the mod document from twenty eighteen, we are looking for the nation
- 38:45state to disappear in about thirty years time, so I think they're preparing for
- 38:51it might yes, all the way through this by the way, probably no
- 38:54need to mention it though you know it's sorry Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine and
- 39:00Ukraine is a justification for this merging and creation of this what is it,
- 39:07well, embryonic one world military infrastructure. Indeed, and it's going to be
- 39:14interesting to see how close the Americans decide to be with this chaos and mayhem
- 39:20in European NATO. But as I've said many times that in years gone by
- 39:27Cold War, the power within NATO was invariably the US as the overwhelming power,
- 39:35followed by UK followed by the Germans and the Dutch, and after that
- 39:39it was people came in on a very ad hoc basis where the French at
- 39:43the bottom, Well, the French were always off to one side because they
- 39:46didn't want to play by anybody else's rules. Yes, but Mark, let's
- 39:52get a little bit more from you on the NATO summerd Yes, I managed
- 39:59to sit through a two hours of it July ten, and about six or
- 40:02seven hours of it July eleven. Challenging to stay awake at times, but
- 40:07there were a number of interesting points. Of course, seventy five years for
- 40:10the Alliance. I mentioned this last week. The twelve initial countries that signed
- 40:15the North Atlantic Treaty, it's now thirty two countries. So since the initial
- 40:20country or initial treaty was signed in DC way back when nineteen forty nine,
- 40:24now they wanted to meet in DC again. That was the whole meaning of
- 40:27it. And we'll comb through this. The next couple slides are simply the
- 40:32daily schedule, Day one and day two. I'm not going to read them.
- 40:36They're just there for those that want to reference them and freeze those slides.
- 40:40Viewers can do that, so that's just kind of a convenience there.
- 40:45We'll move on. Day two. In the public forum featured this Congressman Gerald
- 40:52Connolly from Virginia, a Democrat, and he announced that thirty one of the
- 40:57thirty two NATO countries now support already relatively new thing called the Center for Democratic
- 41:02Resistance. So they're looking at NATO not just being a military thing, but
- 41:07supporting democracy being more of a political thing, and he is a member of
- 41:14the NATO Parliamentary Assembly, mister Connolly, which is a body within Congress that
- 41:19I didn't happen to know existed. Now I traced it back. Here's a
- 41:22press release from April of twenty twenty two, and that's when this thing was
- 41:27sired. House passes Connolly Turner resolution in support of establishing a NATO Center for
- 41:35Democratic Resilience. Today, the House passed House Resolution eight thirty one, a
- 41:40resolution is support of the establishment of a Center for Democratic Resilience within NATO to
- 41:46help member, partner and aspirant states strengthen their democratic institutions and to preserve democracy
- 41:53around the globe. That's what they're saying is for. The resolution was introduced
- 41:58by Congressmen Connelly, president of the NATO Parliamentary Assembly in Congress like I mentioned,
- 42:05and Congressman Michael Turner, an Ohio Republican and a former NATO president in
- 42:12that same organization. The Assembly passage of the resolution comes ahead of the natos
- 42:19PAS Standing Committee meeting in Athens, Greece. That was at the time,
- 42:22nothing real important there specifically, and we'll keep moving. Connley first proposed the
- 42:27creation of a Center for Democratic resilience within NATO, going as far back as
- 42:30twenty nineteen, a recommendation then endorsed by the NATO Parliamentary Assembly as a whole.
- 42:37In twenty twenty. The Independent Group of Experts on NATO twenty thirty supported
- 42:40the concept in their recommendations to the NATO Secretary General. In April of twenty
- 42:45twenty one, the Assembly established a working group to advanced the proposal concept for
- 42:51the center. Speaker Nancy Pelosi, speaker at that time, anyway, endorsed
- 42:54the proposal in October of twenty twenty one while in Lisbon, Portugal, for
- 42:59her acceptance of the NATO PA's inaugural Women in Peace and Security Award. The
- 43:05bipartisan US delegation to the NATO PA has also encouraged Secretary of State Blincoln he's
- 43:12still the Secretary of State and Secretary Defense Austin to build support among allies for
- 43:16this center. So that was a US congressman's role at the NATO public forum
- 43:23covering this. I couldn't, of course, cover this summit directly. That's
- 43:28behind closed doors. NATO rolled out this public forum for the seventy fifth anniversary
- 43:32largely as a pr thing. Here's what Conley had to say anyway to summarize
- 43:37his part in this. Our commitment to share democratic values is what distinguishes NATO
- 43:43from other military alliances. He says. Without it, NATO is just another
- 43:46military block spelled block wrong in this case that opposes Russia. But this commitment
- 43:53cannot remain purely aspirational or rhetorical. It must be operationalized. And I think
- 44:00he had a little more to say. There are divisions and units within NATO
- 44:04dedicated to collective defense, terrorism, hybrid warfare, cyber climate change, and
- 44:09all these other security challenges. But after seventy two years, this is going
- 44:15back to twenty twenty two when this resolution was passed, So this is I'm
- 44:22using somewhat older quotes, even though he reiterated this stuff in Washington this past
- 44:27week. But after seventy two years, at that time, there's not even
- 44:30a broom closet in NATO headquarters dedicated to democratic institution building. So this center,
- 44:37he says, is long overdue. So that was among the major announcements
- 44:40guys this past week. And we also have the Political Scene Center keynote by
- 44:49Jake Sullivan, the National Security Advisor for the Biden administration. These are all
- 44:55original photos I took through the Wonders of screenshots, no borrowed photos for this
- 45:01presentation, and I have a little bit of what Sullivan had to say.
- 45:06My notes were a little sketchy, so I hunted down the actual transcript.
- 45:09Here's his remarks in part an excerpt. Allies have committed to collectively provide Ukraine
- 45:17with at least forty billion euros worth of security assistance over the next year.
- 45:22And that's not just a dollar sign. That is equipment, tanks, armored
- 45:27fighting vehicles, artillery, missiles, the whole range of capabilities that Ukraine needs
- 45:32in this case to effectively fight and win. He's saying, think of that
- 45:37in the context of your earlier report. Next in partnership with our allies,
- 45:42Sullivan also announced we will provide Ukraine with five strategic air defense systems and dozens
- 45:49of tactical systems that are especially relevant to help protect Ukrainian forces on the front
- 45:53lines. Sullivan added the strategic air systems will help Ukraine as it endures.
- 46:00It continued pounding by Russia of its energy grid with Russian missiles and drones,
- 46:06and it continued assault on its front lines by Russian planes. So these were
- 46:12some, not all, but some of the main things that mister Sullivan announced
- 46:15and will continue. He also said, from our own production, we'll deliver
- 46:22hundreds of critical air defense systems to Ukraine over the next year as well.
- 46:27There was a point earlier this year when it looked like Ukraine might run out
- 46:30of interceptors, but thanks to decisions that Biden has taken, we're working with
- 46:35allies and partners will ensure that Ukraine remains supplied with the air defense missiles it
- 46:40needs for all of the batteries that we and our allies are now providing together
- 46:45the US, Denmark and the Netherlands have begun also the transfer of F sixteens
- 46:51to Ukrainian forces, and Ukrainian pilots will be operating in theater with those with
- 46:57those F sixteens. He says, this coming some the both the summer that
- 47:00we're the Mond's deluted mark. They haven't got a chance. Well be I'm
- 47:08just a reporter here, and it's interesting in light of what we were showing
- 47:15earlier, the actual battle scenes, the overhead shots we also have assessing the
- 47:22evolving threat of terrorism. I won't go into extravagant detail. The Trump assassination
- 47:28attempt that we reportedly heard about kind of knocked me off course a little bit.
- 47:34I was going to go a little bit deeper into NATO for this report.
- 47:37So I'm calling this NATO Part one of the summit this past week.
- 47:42Next week I'll do part two. So I don't have all the details I
- 47:45otherwise would have had because of the Trump event. But here we have Nicholas
- 47:50Rasmussen, he is with Department of Homeland Security, and a NATAL official,
- 47:55Thomas Goffis. I don't have his immediate to fill handy, but they were
- 48:02talking about non kinetic threats to NATO primarily guys, and by non kinetic threats
- 48:09that means malinformation, disinformation, misinformation, non state actors as well as state
- 48:17actors that would disrupt NATO's operations, that would threaten Western democracy by threatened NATO
- 48:23threatening NATO. And one thing that came up, and they were more like
- 48:28oblique references. They weren't real concrete, but there were these oblique references to
- 48:34colonizers and alternative news sources online that are upsetting the democratic system, knocking it
- 48:44out of whack. These kind of comments, and so one wonders which news
- 48:47colonizers online they might be talking about, but that came up in the terrorism
- 48:53context in that slide that was just shown. And here we also have just
- 49:00some photos that I also took to show sort of a montage of what took
- 49:05place. We have the Swedish Defense Minister Pal Johnson, the Canadian Defense Minister
- 49:10William Blair, and Finland's defense minister is shown below there. I'm not going
- 49:16to take a stab at maybe pronouncing his name. But there was a lot
- 49:22of discussion about Sweden and Finland just joining NATO and some of the ramifications of
- 49:29that. I'll talk a little bit more about that next week. And this
- 49:32was an interesting one, the NATO EU partnership, and I've got a little
- 49:37bit more detail on that. One of the things that came up between Joseph
- 49:43Borrow, who is a High Commissioner of the EU two NATO, I believe
- 49:50that's his position, correct me if I'm wrong, And between him and the
- 49:55moderator they were saying the mind is the battlefield. So some of this discussion
- 50:00was similar to the evolving terrorist threats, the non kinetic threats, the mail
- 50:06information disinformation. Some similar themes came up. People are invading the networks,
- 50:12colonizing the minds of others, quote unquote, and this gentleman, mister Borrow
- 50:20said, it's absurd that Russia has saved the people of the don Bass region.
- 50:25He was the only person that even alluded to what Putin might be up,
- 50:30to what Putin's motivations might be, but he no sooner brought it up
- 50:36than he shot it down. Putin couldn't possibly be defending the Donbass region.
- 50:39He's simply an aggressor these sorts of things. And Borough also mentioned one hundred
- 50:46and ten billion euro was recently expended for Ukraine, of which forty percent is
- 50:52direct military assistance. And here's the thing. He claimed that in Ukraine there
- 50:57are some two hundred factories making thousands of pizza sized drones, producing thousands of
- 51:02them a day, and each one holds four kilograms of explosives that can kill
- 51:07a tank. And my question would be, wouldn't those be among the very
- 51:12first things that Russian forces would destroy? So that was a little bit difficult
- 51:15to believe if you think about it tactically from the Russian standpoint. Now much
- 51:21more could be said. We can talk a little bit more. Of course,
- 51:22an extra about this and the Trump affair. This next slide just to
- 51:27wind up or just some notes. They said there was Q and A.
- 51:30I kept sending questions from time to time. I didn't get a single question
- 51:35answered. They even told me that there's only certain times that questions would be
- 51:39answered, But I didn't see hardly anyone else's questions addressed either. So the
- 51:45public forums promises of addressing public questions was sorely lacking, and the public was
- 51:52largely just a spectator. So we'll leave it there for now and we can
- 51:55talk more next week and an extra today. Thank you very much for that.
- 52:00Well, I find that a really interesting combination. A defensive inverted commas
- 52:07military organization, NATO is now going to be working for peace and democracy in
- 52:12the world. Does that make you feel comfortable? Absolutely? Absolutely not?
- 52:17Okay, Well, should we trust British politicians? Now? Previously last week
- 52:23we mentioned that the Foreign Secretary David Lammy, I'm going to bring him back
- 52:29on screen because he's been getting some press as the peacemaker with regard to Israel
- 52:34and Gaza. What's he been talking about? Well, apparently he stated to
- 52:39Netsan Yahoo that the war in Gaza is intolerable. Well, I think I'd
- 52:44agree with that one. Apparently Britain is calling for a cease fire deal and
- 52:49the space for a credible and irreversible pathway towards a two state solution. I
- 52:54think I believe that when I actually see it. But this is the claim
- 52:59that's being made in the article around Lammy. What else can we bring in?
- 53:04Well, apparently he's called for the release of all hostages. He's also
- 53:08calls for a halt to settlement expansion in the israady occupied West Bank, and
- 53:15he's called for a dramatic increase in aid for Gaza. So we might believe
- 53:21that we've got a politician here who's at least got the strength of character to
- 53:25stand up to Israel and say some things have got to be put right.
- 53:30But is this man true to his word? Well, we're going to come
- 53:34back to some tweets that he's previously made. This is twenty seventeen, and
- 53:39this is in relation to Trump, it says read the Daily Mail story today.
- 53:45Yes, if Trump comes to the UK, I will be out protesting
- 53:49on the streets. He's a racist, KKK and Nazi sympathizer. Mike,
- 53:54is this the language suitable language for somebody to get into government in a sea
- 54:00post to deal with other nations. I think you've got to answer that when
- 54:04you put the next well, okay, we'll bring it in. I think
- 54:07that this is hate speech and it's got immensely dangerous implications. Of course we've
- 54:13seen what's just happened to Trump, but it'll get worse. Let's have a
- 54:16look at this one, Tim. I don't know who the tim is.
- 54:21Tim, you are, so you are clear. I would pour whatever I
- 54:25can get my hands on an avowed white supremacist. My ancestors died fighting for
- 54:31this sh one. T. I don't give two bloody hoots what your apologist
- 54:37bottom thinks about it. That's me being polite. You lay down with dogs,
- 54:42you get fleas. So there's some really, really nasty stuff inside this
- 54:46man, but he's apparently the peacemaker on the national stage. This was an
- 54:52MPR report saying that British parliament member David Lammy discusses why he opposed Trump's visit.
- 54:59This is back in twenty eighteen, and when we come to this one,
- 55:02it really takes the biscuit because this is twenty nineteen. Donald Trump has
- 55:08tweeted out that there has been no president in the history of our company who
- 55:12has been treated so badly as I have. The Democrats are frozen with hatred
- 55:17and fear they get nothing done. This should never be allowed to happen to
- 55:22another president. It's a witch hunt. And Lammy has said four US presidents
- 55:28have been assassinated, snowflake, So think about that comment in relation to the
- 55:34assassination attempt that we have just seen. And I'm going to suggest that this
- 55:38man is not fit to be in post and there's going to be major problems.
- 55:43I think we just have to watch him for long enough. Indeed,
- 55:46now the election is over, thank goodness, and that means that Ofcom gets
- 55:52back to work because they weren't able to do anything apparently during the election,
- 55:55all kinds of special rules and so on. So online safety is on the
- 56:00agenda once again, so they're switching that back on. And I wanted to
- 56:06just quickly have remind everybody what Labor's position is on online safety. Of course,
- 56:10the Online Safety Act has passed, the legislation is in place, and
- 56:15Offcome is back to work to start implementing it. But if we look at
- 56:19the Labor Party's manifesto. They said this Labor will build on the Online Safety
- 56:24Act, bringing forward provisions as quickly as possible, and explore further measures to
- 56:30keep everyone safe online, particularly when usual using social media. So they are
- 56:35talking about the Online Safety Act as being only in the beginning, and if
- 56:38we go back to pre the election, in fact we go back to pre
- 56:43the passing of the Act, we should make the point that Labor was absolutely
- 56:49behind the idea of legal but harmful. This concept was dropped from the final
- 56:52legislation because it was so controversial and soldra conein and so totalitarian that nobody was
- 56:59prepared to accept it. So when they say they're going to build on the
- 57:01Online Safety Act, many people, including myself, believe that this means the
- 57:07return of this type of idea, the idea that content which is absolutely legal
- 57:15but which they happen to not agree with should be systematically censored from the Internet.
- 57:21Now, as I say, Offcom back in business and they are continuing
- 57:25to build their infrastructure in order to protect children, they claim from harmful content
- 57:31online. And so in order to protect children, I just wan remind everybody
- 57:37what companies, this is the tech companies will have to do first of all,
- 57:40they'll have to impose robust age checks. Now, of course, this
- 57:45isn't about checking the age of children. This is about checking the age of
- 57:47everyone. So this is all about digital id because of course, in order
- 57:52to check the age of anyone on the Internet, they've got to identify them
- 57:55and absolutely establish their age to decide whether they're a child or not. They're
- 58:00going to bring about companies are going to have to bring about safer algorithms to
- 58:04make sure that children don't get access to certain types of content. But again,
- 58:07if you want to browse these platforms anonymously, or you don't want to
- 58:10identify yourself, then you're going to get the presumption will be that you're a
- 58:15child, and you will get the safer algorithms and effective moderation will have to
- 58:22be imposed as well. And well is the difference that offcom claims is going
- 58:27to be made. So children will not normally be able to access pornography,
- 58:30they say, So it's not going to stop them accessing it at all,
- 58:34It's just going to be not normal. There you go. Children will be
- 58:37protected from saying and being recommended potentially harmful content, not harmful content, potentially
- 58:44harmful content. So we've got to be sure that we understand what that means.
- 58:49Children will not be added to group chats without their consent. But surely
- 58:52the problem here is that children are being groomed to take part in group chats.
- 58:55So I'm not sure how that works. And it will be easier for
- 59:00children to complain when they see harmful content, and they'll be more confident that
- 59:02their complaints will be acted on. Apparently, So that's all good stuff,
- 59:07isn't it. Oh? Right, A, not the speechless stage, Mike,
- 59:12because this is such nonsense. Yes, So I'm mentioning this again because
- 59:16the consultation ends on the seventeenth of July, so on a few days time,
- 59:22a couple of days time. This is a consultation on protecting Children from
- 59:27Harms Online. If you search for consultation protecting Children from Harms Online, you
- 59:31will get to see that and maybe you might add to the consultation. And
- 59:37we're just going to end this section on online safety with a clip from Marianna
- 59:43Spring, who's been talking about the shocking discussions that have been going on social
- 59:47media with respect to the Trump assassination attempt. Who's being said, I think
- 59:53perhaps it didn't come as much of a surprise that there was a huge wave
- 59:57of disinformation, conspiracy theories, hate, mainly because this is the first attempted
- 1:00:01assassination of a former US president that we've ever witnessed in the social media age.
- 1:00:07It was coming from all sides of the political spectrum. But I think
- 1:00:08what surprised me was just how mainstream a lot of the conspiracy theory rhetoric became.
- 1:00:14It was being recommended to people's feeds on x and the average person was
- 1:00:17really getting involved in terms of what was being shared. There were lots of
- 1:00:21people suggesting building on kind of legitimate concerns about alleged security failings and suggesting,
- 1:00:28hang on, something's not right here. But then they took it that step
- 1:00:30further, saying maybe this is stage. They'd point at the extraordinary real pictures
- 1:00:34and say there's something not right here. This must be a bit of a
- 1:00:36setup. Lots of those people were anti Trump supporters. Their post reached millions.
- 1:00:40There were then also some committed Trump supporters who suggested that this was part
- 1:00:44of some kind of shady cabal, this group of people, the deep state,
- 1:00:49they often refer to them as who did this on purpose, that the
- 1:00:51CIA ordered it there's no evidence to support any of these ideas, but that
- 1:00:54didn't stop them spreading so quickly across X in particular, and it was on
- 1:00:59X it felt a bit like an earthquake, where political supporters on either side
- 1:01:02were doubling down in their echo chambers pushing out this kinds of content, and
- 1:01:07the rest of us were left kind of scrabbling around trying to work out what
- 1:01:09was going on at the BBC contacted X and they didn't get back to us.
- 1:01:14Okay, Marianna. So anyway, we always like to be leaving a
- 1:01:17bit of comedy to the end of the program, and that hopefully got many
- 1:01:22of you laughing. Laughing they did. I wonder how many times I've contacted
- 1:01:28the BBC over the years and they never get back to me. They never
- 1:01:30answer the question. But be fair, what a lovely dress? Okay,
- 1:01:36well we'll we'll leave it on a happy note. She was wearing a lovely
- 1:01:39dress, I think. Okay. Thank you very much for our audience today,
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- 1:02:08We'll be with you for extra in a few minutes, and we'll include the
- 1:02:14clip with Debbie advertising her full interview with mister Bodwin. So join us for
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