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Teen Mom goes on a 'blind date,' never seen again. What happened to Donna Kay Cloud? · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Donna kay Cloud missing. Our
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Speaker 1: only clue that we have right now is that she
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Speaker 1: went on a date with someone she had met online.
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Speaker 1: Donna kay Cloud Missing Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Montgomery
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Speaker 1: County authorities say nineteen year old Donna ky Cloud has
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Speaker 1: vanished after going on a blind date. Officially say, Donnah
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Speaker 1: went on the date with an unknown man about a
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Speaker 1: week ago, and now no one has seen or heard
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Speaker 1: from her since last Wednesday night. I found out that
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Speaker 1: she didn't even know the guy after she already a
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Speaker 1: loud and made a comment to her through her messaging
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Speaker 1: and told her, you know, hey, that's not a very
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Speaker 1: smart thing to do. Said, I'm going to get Redbox movies,
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Speaker 1: go back to his house, and I will probably be
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Speaker 1: back in the morning. If you don't hear from me
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Speaker 1: by two, she said, call a cop. We don't know
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Speaker 1: what he was driving, who he was. We never saw
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Speaker 1: a vehicle, never saw a face, never really heard a name.
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Speaker 1: Friends and family have been flooding Facebook with flyers and
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Speaker 1: posts pleading for any information or help in finding Donna.
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Speaker 1: Something's better than nothing. At this point, investigators think the
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Speaker 1: date may have taken place at the Texas Roadhouse restaurant
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Speaker 1: near Kingwood, but even that has not been confirmed. Where
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Speaker 1: is this gorgeous girl. I'm looking right into big brown eyes,
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Speaker 1: and I swear she looks like she's looking right at me.
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Speaker 1: This missing Splendora woman, now gone for weeks on end.
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Speaker 1: Where is nineteen year old Donna kay Cloud? You know
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Speaker 1: I'm looking at her and I'm hearing the heartbreak and
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Speaker 1: her dad's voice. Her dad, Darryl Baty, has said over
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Speaker 1: and over his girl told him she was meeting a
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Speaker 1: man at a restaurant in Kingwood. We now know that
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Speaker 1: to be Texas Roadhouse. Why can't any leads develop? I
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Speaker 1: meansy Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank you for being
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Speaker 1: with us, with me an all star panel to try
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Speaker 1: and figure out the mystery surrounding Donna k Cloud, missing
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Speaker 1: six October twenty five. James Shelnutt, twenty seven years metro
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Speaker 1: major case swat now lawyer, Founder and CEO of the
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Speaker 1: Coal Case Investigative Research Institute. Cheryl McCollum, forensics expert, doctor
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Speaker 1: Bethany Marshall, psychoanalyst, joining me from LA but right now
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Speaker 1: to Alexis terres Chuck Investigative reporter joining us Crime online
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Speaker 1: dot Com. Alexis, you're on this in so many other cases,
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Speaker 1: I don't know how you keep them all straight. I
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Speaker 1: found out about Donna kay Cloud through Facebook. Her friends
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Speaker 1: and relatives wrote me at our Nancy Gray site. That's
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Speaker 1: how I found her. I don't understand why the world
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Speaker 1: hasn't learned about Donna kay Cloud. I mean, you see
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Speaker 1: so many people like UM, when Natalie Holloway went missing,
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Speaker 1: when UM Elizabeth Smart went missing, when Kelly Anthony went missing,
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Speaker 1: it was a huge big deal. I haven't heard a
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Speaker 1: word about Donna kay Cloud. Well, she is only nineteen
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Speaker 1: years old. She was absolutely I must still say is
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Speaker 1: she is absolutely beautiful along dark hair, and she just
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Speaker 1: has disappeared. Literally, this is one of the coldest cases
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Speaker 1: that we probably we're going to discuss. She went out
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Speaker 1: for a blind date. She only nineteen years old. Her
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Speaker 1: parents got her phone from Walmart. They just she's protecting
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Speaker 1: with somebody and they decided to meet up. It was
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Speaker 1: to dinner. They're going to a roadhouse she's you know,
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Speaker 1: like a state restaurant, and she never comes back again.
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Speaker 1: Her family goes frantically looking for her. They even they
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Speaker 1: are the ones they could be investigating. Her parents went
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Speaker 1: to the restaurant King's Roadehouse to look for the security
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Speaker 1: footage to see what this man looked like. That she's
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Speaker 1: on to date with nothing. She never actually shows up
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Speaker 1: that so restaurant so terrified. Are we absolutely sure about that?
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Speaker 1: That is what her dad has said that he went
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Speaker 1: in the footage. I'm sure her dad is right. For
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Speaker 1: those of you just joining us, we're talking about a
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Speaker 1: beautiful young girl just nineteen years old. Cops say her
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Speaker 1: case has gone cold. I don't accept that. I've got
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Speaker 1: a tip line for you. Nine three to six, seven
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Speaker 1: to six zero five eight seven one. Donna kay Cloud,
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Speaker 1: nineteen years old. You can see her face at crime
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Speaker 1: online dot com. She looks like everybody's little sister. She
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Speaker 1: can't weigh more than well. As a matter of fact,
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Speaker 1: I'm looking at the poster right now. I started to
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Speaker 1: say she can't may weigh more than one hundred and
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Speaker 1: twenty pounds, and that's right. She's five to one and
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Speaker 1: barely reaching one hundred and twenty pounds. Long, dark brown
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Speaker 1: hair and dark brown eyes. Tiplin nine three six seven
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Speaker 1: six zero five eight zero zero straight out to Cheryl McCullum,
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Speaker 1: founder and director of the Cold Case Research Institute, Cheryl,
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Speaker 1: where do we even start? You start where you last
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Speaker 1: know for sure she was and seen alive, So wherever
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Speaker 1: that is she never made it to the restaurant. We
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Speaker 1: don't know this person. We have nothing to identify him with.
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Speaker 1: I would start with her computer. Was she in fact
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Speaker 1: on dating type? Who contacted her? All of that she
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Speaker 1: either part of her computer or if they can locate
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Speaker 1: anything she saved in the cloud or anything like that,
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Speaker 1: talk your best friends. If in fact she was on
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Speaker 1: these sites. There's a footprint a lot, you know. I'm
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Speaker 1: looking at the Texas Roadhouse right now, and it looks
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Speaker 1: like a big restaurant bar, and my point is it's big.
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Speaker 1: They've got big wooden booths that come up a little
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Speaker 1: bit almost to the top of a man's head. Because
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Speaker 1: in the photo I'm looking at, there's a normal sized
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Speaker 1: man sitting there with a woman, and the booth top
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Speaker 1: comes up almost to the top of the head. My
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Speaker 1: point is, you really can't see over the booth and
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Speaker 1: look at who is behind you or who was on
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Speaker 1: the other side of your booth. And there's solid like
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Speaker 1: big beams of oak or pine, and that would make
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Speaker 1: it less likely for her to be spotted with this
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Speaker 1: security cam. If she was sitting with her back to
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Speaker 1: the camera, you'd never know it was her. They are
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Speaker 1: solid beams of wood in the booths. It's big. It's
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Speaker 1: one of those, you know, fun looking places with the
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Speaker 1: walls covered with antique. You know, it looks like beer signs,
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Speaker 1: Coca Cola signs, guy cutouts of guys in cowboy hats.
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Speaker 1: There's TVs everywhere. I don't know if a witness would
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Speaker 1: have even recognized her, a nineteen year old girl. But
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Speaker 1: I want to circle back to something that Cheryl McCollum
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Speaker 1: just said regarding her computer, and in my mind it
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Speaker 1: would be more her phone back to you, Alexis Terreschu
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Speaker 1: Crime Online dot Com investigative reporter Alexis Do we have
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Speaker 1: reason to believe she was on a dating website, like
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Speaker 1: Cheryl McCollum said, or was this you know, a friend
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Speaker 1: of mine setting me up on a blind date? What
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Speaker 1: do we know? Yes, she was on a dating website.
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Speaker 1: That is where she met this man. So her family
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Speaker 1: had called this a blind date. And while technically she
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Speaker 1: had never met the man who yes at the blind
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Speaker 1: day to blind It is usually when your friend set
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Speaker 1: you up with somebody that you've never met before. That
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Speaker 1: description really is not accurate about what happened here. She
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Speaker 1: met someone online, a stranger, and she went to meet him.
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Speaker 1: She was not set up by a friend or on
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Speaker 1: a blind date. And originally people had said her dad
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Speaker 1: thought she'd met him on Facebook. She did not meet
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Speaker 1: him on Facebook. She met him on a dating website,
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Speaker 1: and she was using her phone to do that dating
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Speaker 1: a website. Now, actually, it would be so much better
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Speaker 1: if a friend had set her up on a blind date.
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Speaker 1: That's not what happened. That way, I could circle back
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Speaker 1: to the friend, I could find out who the blind
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Speaker 1: date was. We don't know that, But what we do
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Speaker 1: know is she met this guy on a website, probably
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Speaker 1: using her phone. Believe it or not. That does narrow
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Speaker 1: things down. Earlier, you heard our friends at Houston, Texas
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Speaker 1: TVCW thirty nine. But now take a listen to KPRC
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Speaker 1: channel to Brandon Walker. She was last here, according to
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Speaker 1: the family, at this Texas roadhouse restaurant on a date.
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Speaker 1: She's from Splendor, that's about thirteen miles north here on
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Speaker 1: fifty nine, and that's where her family is tonight worried, sick. No,
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Speaker 1: I don't know where she's at. I don't know what's
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Speaker 1: going on. To hear Darryl Batty is to feel his
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Speaker 1: pain of fathers searching to find his daughter. Donna Cloud
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Speaker 1: is nineteen years old, missing her, dad says since Tuesday
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Speaker 1: went and got her a little phone from Walmart and
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Speaker 1: she was conversing with somebody on the Internet, and then
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Speaker 1: she told us that she was going to go out
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Speaker 1: on a date. Again. That was Tuesday. The date, according
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Speaker 1: to Batty, was here if the Texas Roadhouse restaurant on
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Speaker 1: Highway fifty nine and Kingwood. That's a definite, says the family.
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Speaker 1: But what they don't know is who Donna had agreed
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Speaker 1: to meet. She just been messaging him. He offered to
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Speaker 1: take her to the Roadhouse for dinner Prime Stories with
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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace. Wednesday was the last time Baby corresponded with Donna. Hey, Dad,
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Speaker 1: I'm going to go to the mall and probably see
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Speaker 1: a movie this evening. Not sure yet by text message.
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Speaker 1: Since then, he has searched phone records, Facebook, you name it, nothing.
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Speaker 1: I don't know where she's at. She could be anywhere,
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Speaker 1: and it's really it really hurts me because there's nothing
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Speaker 1: I can do. I feel so helpless. Donna Cloud as
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Speaker 1: a mother, herself, as a three year old son, she's nineteen,
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Speaker 1: She's just a baby. Tonight, her father, her family holds
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Speaker 1: out hope, praying, they say that Donna comes home. We
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Speaker 1: miss you and we love you, and we want you
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Speaker 1: to come home. We are talking about a nineteen year
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Speaker 1: old girl who has gone missing, and our only clue
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Speaker 1: that we have right now is that she went on
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Speaker 1: a date with someone she had met online. Donna ky
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Speaker 1: Cloud Missing with me an all Star panel. James shell Nutt,
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Speaker 1: twenty seven years, Atlanta, Metro Major Case swat Now lawyer,
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Speaker 1: founder of the Coal Case Investigative Research Institute. Cheryl McCollum,
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Speaker 1: doctor Bethany Marshall, psychoanalyst, joining us out of Beverly Hills
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Speaker 1: and Crime Online dot Com. Alexis Terrez Chuck to James
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Speaker 1: shell Nutt, Metro Major Case swat Now lawyer, where would
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Speaker 1: you start the search? Well, I mean you have to
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Speaker 1: start the search at the people closest to her, and
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Speaker 1: so I think, you know, you've really got two people
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Speaker 1: that would raise my interest right off the bat, which
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Speaker 1: is the dad who reportedly there was an argument with
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Speaker 1: just before she left. As willis trying to identify this
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Speaker 1: mystery person. Those two would give some equal attention to
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Speaker 1: me because theoretically those were the two people closest to
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Speaker 1: the victim at the time she was last seeing. Well,
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Speaker 1: you're understanding that she went on a blind date, but
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Speaker 1: apparently there seems to be a little bit of controversy
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Speaker 1: surrounding that theory. Alexi's terress check. Do we absolutely know
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Speaker 1: she went on a blind date? We do not. There
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Speaker 1: has not been any evidence that the police have shared,
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Speaker 1: or that anybody has shared about the blind date. There
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Speaker 1: are no profiles that have matched with the man. You know,
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Speaker 1: if you're on a dating website, there is somebody that
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Speaker 1: you can contact the dating website and they can say, look,
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Speaker 1: here's this person they were talking with this person, can
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Speaker 1: you show us up. There's been nothing there. There was
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Speaker 1: no evidence that there was another man that she met
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Speaker 1: up with. Okay, who is Carter Meyer and who is
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Speaker 1: Aubrey Schultz. They seem to be the last confirmed people
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Speaker 1: to see Donna before she goes missing, And I'd like
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Speaker 1: to point out they have both fully cooperated with law enforcement.
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Speaker 1: To our understanding, Anne has spoken at length with Donna's
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Speaker 1: friends and family. Now, some witnesses have come forward saying
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Speaker 1: they saw Donna get dropped home by Carter Meyer. Now
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Speaker 1: that's a conflicting story. What do you know about that?
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Speaker 1: If anything. Alexis Carter Myer and Aubrey Show are friends
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Speaker 1: of Donna's and people are saying that they were with
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Speaker 1: her and if they were seen dropping her off after
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Speaker 1: her father claims that she went out on a blind
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Speaker 1: date and went missing. Now the police have contacted the
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Speaker 1: two of them and have spoken with them and have
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Speaker 1: said that they are cooperating with the police. But this
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Speaker 1: is very suspicious because these are two people that have
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Speaker 1: seemed to have nothing to do with anything, just friends
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Speaker 1: of her. As people say they saw her with them
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Speaker 1: and then she disappears. Guys, we're talking about a nineteen
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Speaker 1: year old Texas girl. The case has now gone cold,
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Speaker 1: according to a parties m Cheryl McCollum, I'm not sure
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Speaker 1: where to go with this now. For me, I've got
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Speaker 1: three lines of investigation. One would be the alleged blind
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Speaker 1: date to the theory that she was brought back to
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Speaker 1: the home and dropped off after the date, and witnesses
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Speaker 1: say that, but you know, I don't know about that
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Speaker 1: theory because witnesses may have seen her dropped off another
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Speaker 1: night that you know. That's that's tricky right there. And
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Speaker 1: you've got the father, the bio dad of her child,
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Speaker 1: who always is someone you look at whether they're a
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Speaker 1: suspect or not. And I remember your office in Bolt County, Nancy,
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Speaker 1: and we had something similar where there seemed like a
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Speaker 1: lot of misdirection on a case. Nobody seemed to know
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Speaker 1: anything for sure. Everybody said kind of a half truth.
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Speaker 1: And I remember you're like, look, if you've got three
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Speaker 1: people at church and one says they're going into the sanctuary,
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Speaker 1: and one says they're going into the Sunday school room,
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Speaker 1: and one says they're going home, how many people do
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Speaker 1: you know are still at church? And everybody said, well too,
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Speaker 1: and you wouldn't know the answer is you don't know.
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Speaker 1: If you don't have any proof that person went home,
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Speaker 1: then you stay right there and say three people are
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Speaker 1: at that church. So the bottom line is, we don't
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Speaker 1: know she ever went at the restaurant. There's no evidence
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Speaker 1: she made it to the restaurant, there's no evidence she
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Speaker 1: met this mysterious man there's no evidence of anything except
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Speaker 1: the family keeps telling you things. The family has a
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Speaker 1: pr problem. That's not good. Volunteers have pulled out. The
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Speaker 1: police are like, yeah, there's a lot here that not
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Speaker 1: telling us everything. The other thing that's a little, you know,
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Speaker 1: a little well not just flat concerning, is they never
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Speaker 1: spoke to her. They got text messages from her. Anybody
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Speaker 1: could have been doing that as well. You know when
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Speaker 1: you're saying anybody could have been doing that at well,
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Speaker 1: that's a pretty thick plot right there. There's somebody's not
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Speaker 1: only brought her to harm, but they're taking the time
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Speaker 1: to fake Facebook and text messages. I'm curious as to
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Speaker 1: whether we know, do you know, Cheryl, whether her cell
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Speaker 1: phone has ever been recovered. That's why I said the computer,
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Speaker 1: because the cell phone was with her, so we don't
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Speaker 1: have it. But some of that might also leave a
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Speaker 1: footprint on her actual computer because it shared, you know,
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Speaker 1: fights and all. But the fell phone, to our knowledge,
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Speaker 1: is with her wherever that is. And after the two
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Speaker 1: days where she's saying I'm going to the movies, I'm
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Speaker 1: going here, I'm saying another night. Everything's great, but if
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Speaker 1: I need y'all, let you know, they never spoke to
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Speaker 1: her to know that it was just a text. You know,
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Speaker 1: I'm very curious also, Cheryl, as to whether she was
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Speaker 1: ever pinged. Right, she really left all these text messages.
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Speaker 1: There should be a digital ping basically a map brea
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Speaker 1: based on her cell phone as to where she was
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Speaker 1: to James shell Nutt, Explain how that work. For instance,
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Speaker 1: if I go for a walk, or I go for
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Speaker 1: a run, and I go let's just say, let's just
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Speaker 1: pretend I make it for four miles, if I'm talking
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Speaker 1: on the phone, or I even have my phone on,
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Speaker 1: explain how it pings off cell towers. So your cell
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Speaker 1: phone broadcasts to the closest tower, and when it broadcasts
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Speaker 1: to the closest tower, there is a recording of that.
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Speaker 1: In other words, just like you said, you can map
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Speaker 1: the history of what tower that phone reaches out to
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Speaker 1: to relay the signal to the next tower. That is
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Speaker 1: what pinging is. You know. In this situation, something that
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Speaker 1: I failed interesting was that the family and one of
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Speaker 1: the interviews said that they had just bought her a
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Speaker 1: phone at Walmart. You know, one of the biggest turbals
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Speaker 1: for investigators when you're talking about looking at electronic footprint
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Speaker 1: is phones that are kind of pay as you go phones.
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Speaker 1: These phones do not always have data available such as pings,
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Speaker 1: such as history, such as call walks, as the common
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Speaker 1: careers such as Verizon or Sprint may have. You know,
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Speaker 1: a lot of times these carriers, it is very difficult
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Speaker 1: to get this information. A lot of times criminal underworld
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Speaker 1: uses these types of phones. Even terrorists sometimes use these
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Speaker 1: types of phones. And are you talking about burner phones
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Speaker 1: like you get in a drugstore. Yeah, that's exactly what
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Speaker 1: I'm talking about. And it's very difficult to get data
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Speaker 1: off of these phones and retrieve data like it would
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Speaker 1: be a common standard carrier. We know. She says she
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Speaker 1: was going to Texas Roadhouse. She texted her dad the
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Speaker 1: twenty six said the date was great, the guy was nice.
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Speaker 1: She would see him the next day, the twenty seventh. However,
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Speaker 1: we've confirmed as Alexis terrest. Chuck Crime Online has told
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Speaker 1: us there's no surveillance video of her at Texas Roadhouse,
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Speaker 1: And just in case you wanted to know, cops followed
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Speaker 1: up and when and interviewed every single server that had
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Speaker 1: worked there that night. Not one server said they waited
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Speaker 1: on her to their knowledge. You know what. I worked
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Speaker 1: at a sandwich shop pretty much through law school, and
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Speaker 1: I could remember who had been in and out that day.
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Speaker 1: I remember when I screwed up an order. I even
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Speaker 1: knew what certain people ordered. I think that they would
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Speaker 1: have remembered her. Plus no surveillance. That's two reasons we
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Speaker 1: know that she wasn't there. Crime stories with Nancy Grace
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Speaker 1: today makes seventy one days that no one has heard
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Speaker 1: from her that we know of. The nineteen year old,
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Speaker 1: a mother to a three year old little boy named Ryan,
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Speaker 1: hasn't been heard from since late October. Her family says
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Speaker 1: Montgomery County detectives told them they're concerned. He said, you
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Speaker 1: can find a body quicker than you can find someone live.
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Speaker 1: I said, you know what are you doing? You put
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Speaker 1: yourself at risk. Donna's father says these are the last
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Speaker 1: text messages he exchanged with his daughter. On October twenty fifth,
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Speaker 1: she claimed she was headed to a blind date at
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Speaker 1: this Texas roadhouse in Kingwood, later writing the date when great.
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Speaker 1: He's super nice. I will call if I need anything.
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Speaker 1: You can't imagine many things that have gone through my
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Speaker 1: mind that are the possibilities of what could have happened
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Speaker 1: to her? The Sheriff's office says Donna is considered a
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Speaker 1: missing person. They've pursued leads with no luck. Investigators say
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Speaker 1: there was some type of disagreement with family before her disappearance.
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Speaker 1: Detectives say there's no evidence to suggest she went on
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Speaker 1: that date or foul play. Okay, it's murkier and Murkier.
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Speaker 1: That's kt RK, ABC thirteen, Steve Campion speaking. They did
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Speaker 1: match up some of her GPS coordinates from her phone.
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Speaker 1: It was about one am on the twenty seventh, Everybody Soaked.
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Speaker 1: This in shows her traveling down the Houston Interstate, making
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Speaker 1: dozens of stops until her phone drops off. Hasn't been
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Speaker 1: seen or heard from since she did not bring clothes, wallet, money,
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Speaker 1: or her son. By all accounts, she was devoted to
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Speaker 1: m Okay, what happened to this girl? Donna kay Cloud nineteen.
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Speaker 1: They say her case is cold. I disagree. You know,
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Speaker 1: I heard either the mother or the grandmother say something interesting.
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Speaker 1: Cheryl Cheryl McCallum's joining me, founder and CEO of the
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Speaker 1: Cold Case Research Institute. Cheryl they said that they were told,
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Speaker 1: you can find someone easier if they're dead than alive.
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Speaker 1: What do you make of that? Well, one I disagree,
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Speaker 1: and two I'm going to say again, we only know
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Speaker 1: that her phone was traveling and making numerous thoughts. It
21:54
Speaker 1: doesn't mean she was with it. When somebody says to me,
21:58
Speaker 1: you can find somebody faster if they're dead, only if
22:02
Speaker 1: you know where to look, and only if you happen
22:04
Speaker 1: to stumble upon them. How many people do we recover
22:09
Speaker 1: that has been dead for a decade. Not many. If
22:14
Speaker 1: somebody's moving and they're traveling, they make mistakes. That you're
22:18
Speaker 1: talking about somebody nineteen that have no credit cards, no
22:22
Speaker 1: money to speak of, left her baby behind, that she
22:28
Speaker 1: was devoted to. That to me is multiple red flags
22:34
Speaker 1: right there. She doesn't have the means to go to
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Speaker 1: Mexico to start over to get the anchorage. You're talking
22:41
Speaker 1: about somebody that wouldn't be able to get more than
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Speaker 1: five Well, we know that she was on the one
22:46
Speaker 1: oh five along Houston, and that is a pretty major highway.
22:51
Speaker 1: And I'm also curious, did the GPS really show that
22:55
Speaker 1: there were dozens of stops along an interstate. That doesn't
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Speaker 1: sound good to me. Cheryl McCollum, director of the Cold
23:02
Speaker 1: Case Research institute. Why would you make dozens of stop,
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Speaker 1: not one, not two, but dozens of stops along the
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Speaker 1: one o five on the interstate. I mean, does that
23:14
Speaker 1: sound like somebody's trying to dump her body? It sounds
23:17
Speaker 1: bad to me, because again, if your method is to
23:22
Speaker 1: get away, you're running away from home. Essentially, you're running
23:25
Speaker 1: away from your life. You're not gonna make any stops
23:27
Speaker 1: and ustic, you're gonna boog you right on through that joint.
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Speaker 1: So to me, if you're making multiple stops, it's for
23:33
Speaker 1: something sinister. It's bad, you know. I'm also curious. I
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Speaker 1: don't know if you know about this. Alexis Terrestia at
23:39
Speaker 1: Crime online dot Com investigative reporter, But there have been
23:42
Speaker 1: reports that her wallet was found in her dad's car.
23:48
Speaker 1: Do we know anything about that? And I just find
23:50
Speaker 1: it really weird that she would leave with her phone
23:55
Speaker 1: but without her wallet, and that does seem so suspicious.
23:58
Speaker 1: And what came out after a couple of days was
24:01
Speaker 1: that her dad said, well, you know what, we actually
24:05
Speaker 1: did have a fight. She and I had been together
24:07
Speaker 1: in my car and we had a fight and she
24:09
Speaker 1: left her wallet behind. But she seems a suspicious, like
24:14
Speaker 1: you don't go on a date without your wallet. I
24:17
Speaker 1: know you're only nineteen, so you don't need to show
24:20
Speaker 1: your ID because you're not twenty one to drink, but
24:22
Speaker 1: you still need your wallet. You need your wallet when
24:25
Speaker 1: you leave the house. So it's very suspicious that her
24:28
Speaker 1: wallet was in her dad's car. Wasn't something that we
24:31
Speaker 1: said in the very beginning of course though, On the
24:33
Speaker 1: other hand, is she had a fuss with her dad.
24:35
Speaker 1: I could say, you're storming off and slamming the door
24:37
Speaker 1: and not even realizing she left the wallet behind. I mean,
24:40
Speaker 1: let's get real for a moment. How many times do
24:43
Speaker 1: teens have an argument with their father? Okay, I can't remember.
24:48
Speaker 1: I would argue just in a circle with my dad
24:51
Speaker 1: about the presidential election in high school. Oh if I
24:55
Speaker 1: could only take that back. I don't know how I
24:57
Speaker 1: even put up with it. This is what we know.
24:59
Speaker 1: She had on a burgundy T shirt, blue jeans. She
25:04
Speaker 1: had a white canvas shoes. She was carrying a hard
25:07
Speaker 1: phone case that functioned as a wallet, So maybe that's
25:13
Speaker 1: why she left her actual wallet behind. Maybe she had
25:17
Speaker 1: her ID in a credit card or ID and money
25:20
Speaker 1: with her brown hair, brown eyes, Her ears are pierced.
25:25
Speaker 1: She has a diamond tattoo on her right ring finger
25:31
Speaker 1: and a cross and I'm just looking at her right now,
25:37
Speaker 1: and she's absolutely stunning, and I'm wondering how her little
25:41
Speaker 1: boy is getting along without her. James Sheldon, I want
25:45
Speaker 1: to talk to you about this. Stopping dozens of times
25:48
Speaker 1: on the one oh five. That doesn't I mean, can
25:50
Speaker 1: you imagine, let's see you compare it to seventy five
25:54
Speaker 1: south or eighty five north in your jurisdiction. Stopping dozens
25:58
Speaker 1: of times? Why that doesn't sound good to me. No,
26:02
Speaker 1: it doesn't sound good at all. I agree with what
26:05
Speaker 1: was said, Amen to go. I mean that just that
26:07
Speaker 1: throws up a red flag to me. It does look
26:10
Speaker 1: like a place that you're trying to get rid of
26:12
Speaker 1: some type of evidence or get rid of a body.
26:15
Speaker 1: I guess there could be other reasons, but I will
26:17
Speaker 1: tell you that, given the facts of this case, that
26:20
Speaker 1: would be the first concern that came to mind. You know,
26:23
Speaker 1: she was last seen in Splendora, Texas, Octaber twenty five, Jackie,
26:27
Speaker 1: can you'll look up the population for me in Splendora.
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Speaker 1: She left home to go out on a blind date
26:33
Speaker 1: with an unidentified mail mail. We think she met online.
26:36
Speaker 1: Her father did not realize she didn't know the guy
26:39
Speaker 1: until she'd already left. According to the dad, she sent
26:43
Speaker 1: him a tex say she'd probably be back in the
26:46
Speaker 1: morning and if he didn't hear from her by two am,
26:48
Speaker 1: to call the police. Now, you know, normally right there,
26:53
Speaker 1: to Alexis Terres Chuck, why would you say, if you
26:57
Speaker 1: don't hear from me, call police right there? Why would
27:01
Speaker 1: you go out with a guy you're worried that you
27:03
Speaker 1: may have to call police? I mean, it's such a
27:06
Speaker 1: huge rudge flag because you don't know that person. So
27:08
Speaker 1: in some level she knew this is probably not the
27:11
Speaker 1: best thing to do about with a complete stranger. So
27:14
Speaker 1: you kind of say it as a joke. Maybe Again,
27:15
Speaker 1: she is nineteen years old. She's still pretty young, you know, daddy,
27:18
Speaker 1: if you don't hear from me, call the cops. But
27:20
Speaker 1: I cannot imagine that she was actually afraid. But that
27:25
Speaker 1: may have been, to me, the last real text message
27:27
Speaker 1: that she ever sent. As Cheryl said too, you know,
27:31
Speaker 1: anybody could have sent those text messages saying, Oh, I'm
27:33
Speaker 1: going to the movies. I'll be back in a couple
27:34
Speaker 1: of days. What of the text message is said, hey,
27:37
Speaker 1: please kake care my sir, and I'm sorry I'm not help. Yeah,
27:40
Speaker 1: you're absolutely right when you have to say if you
27:43
Speaker 1: don't hear from me, call the cops. That's not a
27:45
Speaker 1: good dating choice. Take a listen to our friends at
27:47
Speaker 1: kg RK ABC thirteen loved ones are giving up. They've
27:51
Speaker 1: spent the past twenty months searching for her. They're now
27:54
Speaker 1: raising money to add to her one thousand dollars crime
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Speaker 1: stoppers reward. They hold cold hardcare can solve this case.
28:01
Speaker 1: People are greedy, a lot of people and if they
28:04
Speaker 1: do know something, maybe if we can get that up,
28:07
Speaker 1: then you know, we can get someone to come for
28:12
Speaker 1: which brings us to this Academy store in New Caney. Yesterday,
28:15
Speaker 1: family and friends spend hours selling baked goods and raffle tickets.
28:19
Speaker 1: Around seven in the evening, someone stole the raffle jar
28:23
Speaker 1: with hundreds of dollars in it and literally turned around
28:25
Speaker 1: for a second and then my son was screaming that
28:28
Speaker 1: they took the money. What's even worse, the event organizer
28:31
Speaker 1: says the thief taunted her child inside the store. He
28:34
Speaker 1: had followed my child around talking about what we were doing.
28:38
Speaker 1: Was pointless because we were going to find her dead anyway.
28:40
Speaker 1: The loss isn't breaking their spirits. They still plan on
28:43
Speaker 1: throwing a big fundraise there on Donna's birthday July seventh.
28:47
Speaker 1: She'll be twenty one years old. Bela she's out there
28:50
Speaker 1: somewhere and she's just waiting on somebody to rescue Crime
29:04
Speaker 1: stories with Nancy Grace. I'm looking for my grand baby.
29:10
Speaker 1: It means the world me and I need her here
29:13
Speaker 1: with me, And one way or another, there's gonna be
29:18
Speaker 1: answers for someone, and somebody's gonna come forward. I just
29:23
Speaker 1: hope it's soon because I don't feel like i'm live
29:28
Speaker 1: with outher and it's been twenty two months. Come this
29:31
Speaker 1: twenty seventh, this month, and I'm ready. I'm ready for
29:37
Speaker 1: my baby behind. She's been in my heart for a
29:39
Speaker 1: long time, so I know what that feeling is. And
29:41
Speaker 1: I believe she's out there somewhere and she's just waiting
29:44
Speaker 1: on somebody to rescue her. Someone knows something. I mean,
29:47
Speaker 1: someone doesn't just vanish without a trace. We just pray
29:52
Speaker 1: that she comes home safe. That's all. It's been a
29:56
Speaker 1: long too long, you know, you told me, I think
30:02
Speaker 1: Backham January was seventy one days. How long has it been?
30:05
Speaker 1: Almost two years? Seven twenty two months? Can you imagine
30:11
Speaker 1: the heartbreak you're hearing our friends at kat RK ABC thirteen.
30:14
Speaker 1: Now was Steve Campion? This young girl nineteen years old
30:19
Speaker 1: headed out to Texas roadhouse, but according to surveillance video
30:22
Speaker 1: and their waitresses there, she never showed up. We know
30:28
Speaker 1: she left with no credit cards. She left behind her car, money, identification,
30:34
Speaker 1: and clothes, and most important, her three year old son.
30:39
Speaker 1: Her family insists she would never have just walked out
30:43
Speaker 1: on them. So where is Donna k? Cloud? Go to
30:48
Speaker 1: crime online dot com to see a photo of her
30:51
Speaker 1: and the tip line nine three six seven six zero
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Speaker 1: five eight seven one Back to founder of the Cold
30:58
Speaker 1: Case Research Institute, Cheryl McCallum. Cheryl, when you look at
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Speaker 1: everything she left behind, why would she leave behind her car?
31:07
Speaker 1: Wouldn't she want her car on a blind date? Why
31:10
Speaker 1: does she didn't like the guy and she wanted to
31:12
Speaker 1: get home? Now I'm understanding that these two friends dropped
31:16
Speaker 1: her off at the blind date? Is that how you
31:18
Speaker 1: understand it? How I kind of understand it, But Nancy,
31:22
Speaker 1: I would go back. There's two things that I really
31:24
Speaker 1: want to know the answer to before that happened, when
31:27
Speaker 1: she dropped the baby off at his father's house, what
31:32
Speaker 1: did she tell him? Did she say I'm going to
31:34
Speaker 1: pick him up in the morning, or was the child
31:36
Speaker 1: going to stay with him the entire weekend? Because here's
31:39
Speaker 1: what I find odd. I find odd that a nineteen
31:41
Speaker 1: year old girl goes on a blind date but then
31:44
Speaker 1: text us her dad, hey, I'm not coming home tonight,
31:47
Speaker 1: and then text with him says, hey, no, one's so great,
31:50
Speaker 1: I'm saying another night. What girl does that with her dad?
31:54
Speaker 1: I just find that questionable, And to me, I want
31:58
Speaker 1: to go back and those she'd say I'm going to
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Speaker 1: pick him up in the morning and never did. I
32:04
Speaker 1: gotta know that answer. Well, the text communications between her
32:08
Speaker 1: and her dad sound very odd to me, but I
32:12
Speaker 1: don't want to judge whatever their relationship was. Maybe that
32:15
Speaker 1: was okay with him. It's believed that Donna went on
32:18
Speaker 1: a date with a man she met online. I'm very curious.
32:21
Speaker 1: I'm very curious as to whether cops looked at the website.
32:26
Speaker 1: We know that sex trafficking is a very strong possibility
32:33
Speaker 1: on these dating sites. A lot of sex trafficking victims
32:38
Speaker 1: end up taken off the websites and to you, Cheryl McCollum,
32:43
Speaker 1: how does that work? Thanks trafficking words? Couple different ways,
32:47
Speaker 1: but they're all websites where they picked their victim. When
32:51
Speaker 1: they meet up wherever they meet up, she's taken immediately
32:56
Speaker 1: and within three hours she's gone. So from where they
33:01
Speaker 1: are down, you know, they're on that road in Houston.
33:05
Speaker 1: They could have been at different truck pop, they could
33:08
Speaker 1: have been at different places. She could have already been working.
33:11
Speaker 1: Maybe it's very very fast. It's not like I'm going
33:14
Speaker 1: to kidnap you keep you a couple of days, change
33:17
Speaker 1: your hair color. It is fast in a lot of ways,
33:20
Speaker 1: it really is. And I'm looking at this strained relationship
33:24
Speaker 1: with her father. But I don't know. I just feel
33:27
Speaker 1: like we're looking in the wrong direction. I'm still hung
33:31
Speaker 1: up on those multiple stops going up and down the
33:34
Speaker 1: interstate question, do you, James Shelno, What can cops do now?
33:39
Speaker 1: I think that what you have to do now is
33:42
Speaker 1: you have to look at the last location where her
33:45
Speaker 1: phone transmitted the signal, whether that was through a pink,
33:48
Speaker 1: whether that was through something like Google locate. You have
33:52
Speaker 1: to start there. To me, her phone stopped broadcasting for
33:56
Speaker 1: a reason. The phone is either turned off, at which
33:59
Speaker 1: point it will paying or transmit, the phone went dead,
34:03
Speaker 1: or the phone was damaged to the extent that it
34:06
Speaker 1: couldn't transmit by water or some other means. I think
34:09
Speaker 1: that you have to go there and start at that
34:12
Speaker 1: point from a geographical standpoint. Additionally, the family had hired,
34:17
Speaker 1: according to reports, a private investigator who supposedly sent the
34:23
Speaker 1: dad a very eerie message indicating that the daughter was okay,
34:29
Speaker 1: and I would like to talk to that guy. That guy,
34:32
Speaker 1: to me, is one of the next logical stopping points
34:34
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, and the fact that the family hired
34:36
Speaker 1: a private investigator tells me a lot. Cheryl McCollum to me,
34:41
Speaker 1: it takes the focus off the dad because if they're
34:43
Speaker 1: willing to spend money and hire a PI, why would
34:46
Speaker 1: they do that if they're involved again misdirection, because what
34:50
Speaker 1: did the guy tell it? The guy said, Oh, she's alive.
34:53
Speaker 1: Where's the proof? Why does it law enforcement know that?
34:57
Speaker 1: Why did none of her friends know that? If this
35:00
Speaker 1: person walks away from their life, you generally keep something,
35:04
Speaker 1: whether it's your child, your best friend, something. So again,
35:09
Speaker 1: if somebody plays tennis at the alpha level, and they
35:13
Speaker 1: change their lives completely. Wherever they are they're playing tennis,
35:17
Speaker 1: there's something they keep. I do not believe a nineteen
35:20
Speaker 1: year old girl with no money, no credit cards in
35:24
Speaker 1: her name has just gotten a new life and left
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Speaker 1: everything she knows behind. It's not logical to me. Well,
35:33
Speaker 1: I know this much. I don't think there's any way
35:35
Speaker 1: she would not have come back to check on her
35:37
Speaker 1: three year old little boy by now, Amy, I don't
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Speaker 1: believe it. I think Donna kay Cloud has been murdered.
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Speaker 1: If you have information, we beg you to call the
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35:54
Speaker 1: We wait as justice unfalls. Nancy Grace Crime Story signing
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