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TheDocNCarolynPodcast.com Episode 146 (Remembering Charlie) · TheDocNCarolynPodcast

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_01: It's been one year since Charlie Kirk was murdered.
• 0:04
  SPEAKER_01: It was truly a dark day in American history.
• 0:07
  SPEAKER_01: I think we all remember where we were when we heard the tragic news.
• 0:12
  SPEAKER_01: I was in this very office with uh some of our staff, and someone told us that Charlie had been shot.
• 0:19
  SPEAKER_01: We immediately stopped and prayed, hoping that it was not fatal.
• 0:24
  SPEAKER_06: Doc and Carolyn Podcast, episode 146.
• 0:27
  SPEAKER_06: Welcome to the show.
• 0:28
  SPEAKER_09: We're back.
• 0:29
  SPEAKER_06: We are back again on uh the anniversary at the time of this broadcast of the anniversary of Charlie Kirk's murder.
• 0:37
  SPEAKER_09: It's a remembrance.
• 0:38
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, remembrance, yeah.
• 0:39
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 0:39
  SPEAKER_06: So today's show is dedicated to the remembrance of Charlie Kirk.
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_06: Um we remember where we were.
• 0:45
  SPEAKER_06: We talked about that a little bit.
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_06: We were both in the car together.
• 0:49
  SPEAKER_06: We were going southbound on 45 uh in and down to Houston.
• 0:52
  SPEAKER_06: We were going to Houston.
• 0:53
  SPEAKER_09: Yes.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_06: And you brought it, you saw it on your phone.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_09: I did.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_09: I just saw that um he had been shot.
• 0:59
  SPEAKER_09: I didn't know anything else, but we started praying for him.
• 1:04
  SPEAKER_06: And and I uh was not familiar with very familiar with Charlie Currick.
• 1:09
  SPEAKER_06: I knew the name, but I didn't know his content.
• 1:11
  SPEAKER_06: I didn't know what I I knew a little tiny bit about Turning Point USA.
• 1:14
  SPEAKER_06: I know that it was somewhat political.
• 1:16
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, I knew all about it.
• 1:17
  SPEAKER_09: I knew all about him, his politics, his family, you know, I knew he had married Erica and um they had those beautiful babies.
• 1:25
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I listened to the lion share's content after he uh after he went home to Jesus.
• 1:31
  SPEAKER_06: So we're gonna do a tribute and just highlight a couple of things that Charlie uh talked to students about.
• 1:37
  SPEAKER_06: He was you you listen to this guy and you hear why he was so dangerous to the opposition, to the adversary.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_09: Right.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_09: He's I mean, a memory like I don't know anyone with a memory like him.
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_09: He didn't he know so many things about so many things.
• 1:57
  SPEAKER_09: Yes.
• 1:58
  SPEAKER_06: And he was gracious about it.
• 1:59
  SPEAKER_06: One of the things that was so disappointing is people that I work with that I really look up to, the people that I put on a pedestal because of their politics, because of their willingness.
• 2:08
  SPEAKER_06: I don't know, I I I won't pontificate about why they did it, but people that I really respect were celebrating his death to some extent.
• 2:16
  SPEAKER_09: You know, tragedy will really show you who people are.
• 2:20
  SPEAKER_06: It was horrible.
• 2:21
  SPEAKER_06: And this and this this social media presence of, like I said, a couple of people that I really, really looked up to on the job, especially.
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_06: But they were posting and saying things about Charlie being a racist and being, you know, just anything but uh what he was, which was a believer in Yeshua, a believer in Jesus, and somebody who deeply cared about about the students uh that he was talking to.
• 2:44
  SPEAKER_06: He cared about them, and you can hear it.
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_06: Um but they were not doing any research, they were not pulling up Charlie.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_06: And all you and now you really don't have an excuse.
• 2:53
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, gee whiz, you have a phone, you have AI, you have everything, Google, everything else, dug, dug, go, everything else.
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_09: And if you really want to know about something, you can't watch a 15-second clip.
• 3:03
  SPEAKER_09: You just need to pull up the whole video.
• 3:05
  SPEAKER_06: Especially if you're gonna put your business out on the street like that and demolish this man's character and you don't know what you're talking about.
• 3:13
  SPEAKER_06: That's just wrong.
• 3:14
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, it's just horrible.
• 3:16
  SPEAKER_06: So, um, we're gonna do that.
• 3:17
  SPEAKER_06: We're do the show is dedicated to Charlie, and we will get to that in a few minutes.
• 3:21
  SPEAKER_06: In the meantime, listen to this commercial that I found.
• 3:26
  SPEAKER_06: I I think I was duped.
• 3:28
  SPEAKER_06: But listen, listen to this, listen, listen to this commercial.
• 3:30
  SPEAKER_00: Forget potato chips.
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_00: The most addictive snack has gone viral on the internet.
• 3:35
  SPEAKER_00: Introducing the delicious sea crab crisps, truly.
• 3:38
  SPEAKER_06: I ordered, I think I talked to you were at work, and I think I sent you a text about these crab things and they're crunchy and delicious.
• 3:46
  SPEAKER_06: And they're a crabby snack, like who is that?
• 3:49
  SPEAKER_06: Just squid word?
• 3:50
  SPEAKER_06: Who is it that like them crabby cakes?
• 3:52
  SPEAKER_09: Uh-huh.
• 3:53
  SPEAKER_06: I fell for them like I fell for them like Krabby Patties, man.
• 3:58
  SPEAKER_06: I ordered, so I ordered these$50 crab things off of a Facebook shop.
• 4:05
  SPEAKER_09: Now, mind you, they come in a very small container.
• 4:09
  SPEAKER_06: This is like a can of soup.
• 4:11
  SPEAKER_06: It's the size of a can of soup.
• 4:13
  SPEAKER_06: It's not even as big of a can of soup.
• 4:15
  SPEAKER_06: Not even the one with the 33% more.
• 4:17
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, like a little tiny, like the little tiny.
• 4:20
  SPEAKER_06: So this crab, it's inedible.
• 4:23
  SPEAKER_06: I can't eat it.
• 4:24
  SPEAKER_09: Maybe what can we send it back?
• 4:25
  SPEAKER_06: I don't know.
• 4:26
  SPEAKER_06: Probably.
• 4:26
  SPEAKER_06: I want to keep it for a souvenir to teach to teach me a lesson to know the ingredients before you order anything.
• 4:33
  SPEAKER_06: That was crazy.
• 4:34
  SPEAKER_09: You've been learning lessons left and right, babe.
• 4:36
  SPEAKER_06: Don't even start.
• 4:38
  SPEAKER_06: Maybe next week we'll talk about what happened to the car.
• 4:41
  SPEAKER_03: Welcome to this Kingdom Minute with your host, Kimberly Blakes on the Doc and Carolyn podcast.
• 4:46
  SPEAKER_03: Do you guys remember where you were when you heard the news of Charlie Kirk's assassination or that he had been shot?
• 4:51
  SPEAKER_03: I can remember where I was.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_03: I was at work.
• 4:53
  SPEAKER_03: I was doing a client's, and I remember um looking at my phone because the phone dinged and it I don't even, I usually don't even look at look at my phone.
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_03: And I looked down at my phone, and it was a message from a friend of mine that wanted to know if I had heard that Charlie Kirk got shot.
• 5:06
  SPEAKER_03: And I was shocked, and I just immediately said, Did you just did you hear that Charlie Kirk had been shot?
• 5:12
  SPEAKER_03: And the woman in front of me said, Oh, good.
• 5:14
  SPEAKER_03: And it just it shocked me because I could not believe that a woman of that age would say that about a young man with a wife and children.
• 5:22
  SPEAKER_03: And I immediately knew I needed to get into prayer and I wanted to pray.
• 5:25
  SPEAKER_03: And so I got to my car and I started praying in the spirit.
• 5:28
  SPEAKER_03: My thoughts and my mind were stayed on Charlie Kirk.
• 5:31
  SPEAKER_03: I wanted him to live because this man was created for this time and to and to help these children.
• 5:39
  SPEAKER_03: He was the only one going to college campuses, literally talking to the next generation.
• 5:45
  SPEAKER_03: They are gonna be our future leaders.
• 5:47
  SPEAKER_03: And that's what he was here for.
• 5:49
  SPEAKER_03: He was a young man that was reaching young people.
• 5:51
  SPEAKER_03: It didn't bother him that they were throwing water on him and they were cussing him and spitting at him because they didn't know what he was saying, and people were putting things in his mouth and everything else.
• 6:00
  SPEAKER_03: He was still doing the work that he was sent here to do.
• 6:03
  SPEAKER_03: I love the fact that he used politics to on-wrap people to Christ.
• 6:07
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you for tuning in to this Kingdom Minute with your host, Kimberly Blakes, on the Doc and Carolyn podcast.
• 6:12
  SPEAKER_03: You can find me on Facebook at Kimberly Blakes, and I also have a podcast called The Faith Frame Perspective.
• 6:19
  SPEAKER_03: I'll see you guys there.
• 6:20
  SPEAKER_00: Doc and Carolyn!
• 6:22
  SPEAKER_05: People who openly call themselves fascists are here and are not afraid to admit they are fascists.
• 6:27
  SPEAKER_05: So my question is will you denounce fascism today as the definition alline puts it as an ideology including racial nationalism and authoritarianism today?
• 6:35
  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
• 6:40
  SPEAKER_04: Well, describe Marxism to me.
• 6:41
  SPEAKER_04: I'm sorry, what?
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_05: Describe Marxism to me.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_04: It did kill millions of people.
• 6:50
  SPEAKER_04: You're right.
• 6:50
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 6:51
  SPEAKER_04: So I'll denounce fascism.
• 6:52
  SPEAKER_04: You denounce Marxism.
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah?
• 6:54
  SPEAKER_05: Well, I would have to say, like, by definition.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_05: No, no, no, no, no.
• 6:57
  SPEAKER_05: Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
• 6:59
  SPEAKER_05: Hold on, hold on, hold on.
• 7:00
  SPEAKER_05: So my thing is that was it Marxism itself, or was it a materialistic condition that caused that?
• 7:05
  SPEAKER_05: Because as Marxists, what we do say is that there's material conditions that contribute to society.
• 7:09
  SPEAKER_05: Now you probably aren't familiar with dialectal materialism.
• 7:11
  SPEAKER_05: I'll try to explain it real quick.
• 7:12
  SPEAKER_04: I've read the phenomenology of spirit and I know Hegel.
• 7:15
  SPEAKER_04: But no, but but tell me, uh so but why not denounce Marxism?
• 7:20
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, what so Mao Zedong Marxist, Lenin Marxist, Joseph Stalin Marxist?
• 7:24
  SPEAKER_04: I'll denounce Joseph Stalin for you, definitely, yes.
• 7:26
  SPEAKER_05: Joseph Stalin was an authoritarian leader who definitely killed millions of Ukrainians during the export of grain to, of course, um build up their economics.
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_04: You don't think there's anything about the ideology that leads to the suffering, impoverishing, or the murdering?
• 7:38
  SPEAKER_05: Just like how Hitler called himself a socialist, it's not the ideology, it's just what you actually do in practice.
• 7:43
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, he did call himself a socialist.
• 7:45
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 7:46
  SPEAKER_04: But he was not a Marxist.
• 7:47
  SPEAKER_04: He was not, yeah.
• 7:48
  SPEAKER_04: But he was the National Socialist Workers' Party is the actual name of Nazism.
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_04: But where has Marxism ever worked?
• 7:54
  SPEAKER_05: Well, I wouldn't say that Marxism itself has never actually been tried.
• 7:57
  SPEAKER_05: Now, of course, you can always say, like, oh, like, you know, that's an easy communist getaway question to it, right?
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_04: Well, but Marxism has killed a lot more people than Hitler.
• 8:05
  SPEAKER_04: Everywhere it's tried, it results in famine, impoverishing, death, destruction.
• 8:11
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, every failed country on the planet right now, including North Korea, is some form of a Marxist dictatorship.
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_04: Why is it hard to denounce that?
• 8:18
  SPEAKER_04: Because it's easier for me to denounce fascism.
• 8:21
  SPEAKER_04: Why why the struggle to just say, you know, Marxism, bad, evil, end of story.
• 8:25
  SPEAKER_05: Why can't we agree on that?
• 8:27
  SPEAKER_05: Well, because if you look at, I'll give the example of North Korea.
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_05: What we did is that we went in there during the Korean War and destroyed other factories, right?
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_05: Now, what did this leave?
• 8:33
  SPEAKER_05: It's left in a poverty society where they now had no means to, of course, get their needs because their factories were destroyed.
• 8:39
  SPEAKER_05: So that's number one on why North Korea.
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_05: Now, I don't like North Korea, I'm just saying that's one reason why.
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_05: He's not a Marxist leader.
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_05: I wouldn't have considered something leader.
• 8:49
  SPEAKER_04: So what ideology is this?
• 8:51
  SPEAKER_05: So the ideology of Marxism is simply that workers own the means of production.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_05: The workers in North Korea do not own the means of production.
• 8:56
  SPEAKER_05: Do they have private property rights in North Korea?
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_05: They don't.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_05: Then who owns the means of production?
• 9:00
  SPEAKER_05: The government does.
• 9:01
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, okay.
• 9:01
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, but in a Marxist society, no, but in a Marxist society, that would be m-Marxism.
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_05: Because the workers own the means of production, not the government.
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_05: But but who is the government?
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_05: The government is the people, the bureaucrats.
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, the bureaucrats that control the power.
• 9:16
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, and that would be the people, the bureaucrats own the means of production, otherwise known as Marxism.
• 9:22
  SPEAKER_05: No.
• 9:22
  SPEAKER_05: No, no, no.
• 9:23
  SPEAKER_05: You're getting it all wrong.
• 9:24
  SPEAKER_05: Literally, the word definition of Marxism is that workers own.
• 9:27
  SPEAKER_05: Workers own the means of production.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 9:29
  SPEAKER_04: So where has that ever been tried or worked?
• 9:31
  SPEAKER_04: You say it's never been tried everywhere.
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, okay, got it.
• 9:34
  SPEAKER_04: So even though the hammer and sickle and core Marxist ideology has been invoked repeatedly by these leaders, you're saying no no nope, not a Marxist, no no nope, not a Marxist, no no nope, not a Marxist.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_04: Over a hundred times it has been tried on every single continent, from Mugabe in Rhodesia, which became Zimbabwe, to parts of India, to China, to Korea, to parts of Eastern Europe, to Central and South America, to Venezuela.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_04: None of that is Marxist, even though they say they're Marxist.
• 10:08
  SPEAKER_05: Well, it's tampering with Marxism because you have sanctions and you bomb their countries.
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_05: So I mean, if you want to call that Marxism, then if you sanction and bomb them, I guess that's Marxism.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_05: Wait, so how have we sanctioned and bombed these Marxists?
• 10:22
  SPEAKER_04: Like Venezuela.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_05: Venezuela has sanctions to where we don't buy their oil anymore.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, well, why do you think we're sanctioning them?
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_04: Because they have Marxist ideologies that don't incorporate with capitalist ideology.
• 10:31
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, they're also like a quasi-terror state.
• 10:34
  SPEAKER_04: But let's talk about Venezuela.
• 10:36
  SPEAKER_04: Venezuela used to be rich and prosperous when they had the private ownership of minerals.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_04: Why is Venezuela now one of the poorest countries in South America?
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_05: What ideology caused that?
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_05: See, but that's the thing, though.
• 10:47
  SPEAKER_05: It's not the ideology, it's the practice.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_05: Now you could say the practice is Marxism, but again, do the workers own the means of production in that country?
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_05: Somebody does.
• 10:56
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, somebody does, but not the workers.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_04: The government owns.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, in like the purest form of daskapital Marxism, it is the government that comes in and abolishes private property, correct?
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_04: This is, of course, called the I think the dictatorship of the proletariat, I think, is what you're referring to.
• 11:13
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 11:13
  SPEAKER_04: So let me ask you a question.
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_04: So you believe in this like abstract Marxism that you don't ever want to denounce, even though it's been tried a hundred times.
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_04: But again, you say try, but we just said that it hasn't been tried because workers haven't owned the means of production.
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, well, why do you think that is?
• 11:29
  SPEAKER_04: Because they use the swan song of Marxism, and Marxism will always result in an oligarchy or a dictatorship.
• 11:37
  SPEAKER_04: Because you know why?
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_04: It's impossible to quote unquote have the workers' owns the means of production because we don't share well as human beings.
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_04: That's why only someone that has, and with all possible due respect, an infinite understanding of human nature can think communism can work.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_04: Because we're self-interested at our core.
• 11:55
  SPEAKER_04: And you have an economic system that is built not on private property but on quote unquote shared goods, you're going to have a dictator on top of it that is going to exploit and terrorize.
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_04: And so you started this conversation by asking me to denounce fascism, which is responsible for about 10 to 15 million deaths, said ideology.
• 12:15
  SPEAKER_04: I'm pleading you one more time to denounce Marxism that is responsible for minimum 100 to 120 million deaths.
• 12:23
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, academics have proven that wrong.
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_05: That's not true.
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_05: That's from the Black Book of Communism.
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_05: That has how many people did Mao kill?
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_05: Mal killed about 30 to 40 million.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_05: How many people did Stalin kill?
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_04: Stalin killed about 20 to 30 million?
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, now we're at 60 million, and I just mean like two countries then.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_04: So like we're out of the gate, we're at like 60 million.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_04: So I can keep on going, right?
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_04: If you want to talk famine, impoverishing, lowering a standard of living.
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_04: But I what I what I want to just reiterate as we close this out, there's this pathological fascination with fascism, fascism, fascism, and a complete ignoring that Marxism, which is the other side of the authoritarian coin, has been far deadlier, far more costly, and is far more popular.
• 13:06
  SPEAKER_04: And I'll ask this final question: what do you think has a greater chance of catching on in America?
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_04: Fascism or Marxism?
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_04: I would say fascism.
• 13:15
  unknown: Okay?
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_04: You really think so?
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_04: I really do believe that.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 13:19
  SPEAKER_04: The only way I would possibly agree with that is the left-wing fascists that shut up people on campuses and allow, you know, try to stop freedom of speech.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_06: But isn't that ironic there that he talks about the left-wing uh fascist violence, and he was cut down by exactly that person, one of those people.
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_06: With the best of intentions, I was totally humbled.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_09: Why?
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_06: Your plate is so full.
• 13:55
  SPEAKER_06: You you you are doing 15 things at the same time.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_06: You're you're uh doing clinical work at the urgent care level, you have your practice, your your uh truehealinghealthcare.net, functional integrative medicine practice, you're in school because you're adding uh your hormone uh replacement therapy, and you running this house is no easy task.
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_06: We have just just running a house, you know, you know what it's like.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_09: Yes, I do.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_06: And you handle everything uh so gracefully that I'm thinking always, I'm thinking of ways, how can I contribute more?
• 14:33
  SPEAKER_06: How can I help?
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_06: How can I lighten your burden?
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_06: What can I do?
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_09: You are really good about that.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_06: Well, okay, but uh, but I'm always looking for ways to do that.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_06: I really do uh with intention to try to help you as much as I can.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_06: So I come up with this idea.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_06: And as you recall, I think we're I think you were cooking, we were in the kitchen, you you're you're making you know dinner or breakfast, whatever you're cooking.
• 14:54
  SPEAKER_06: And I thought, and I told you, I said, listen, I have an idea.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_06: You don't have to follow it, you don't have to take it.
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_06: But my idea is when you're listening to your lectures, maybe I can sit in with you.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_06: Maybe I'll come up with a good question that will not only help me understand better what it is you do, but get a thought-provoking response from you that will help you learn, help you educate.
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_06: Yes, and and the I remember this.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_06: So I go in, so I so I get the I I make a whole, I bring in snacks, I got beverages, I get a pillow, and I'm comfortable, and I'm sitting in the chair, and she starts this thing, right?
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_06: And about five minutes in, I mean, I got lightheaded.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_06: You you had to get me a cold compress and lay me down on the floor.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_06: Now it wasn't that bad, but I have never I have never in my life sat down and listened to information that was immediately I mean, I couldn't pronounce the words, I didn't understand them.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_09: Well, it was women's hormones that you've got to tell you right there it's gonna be complicated.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_06: Maybe.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, I didn't get but see that's how dim-witted I am.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_06: I thought, well, that'll be a piece of cake.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_06: I thought it would be easy, but I'm listening to this, and how on earth, how do you how do you memorize?
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_09: Well, because I've been I've been studying clinical things for all these years, that's why I know the terminology.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, I in you know what in fairness, I guess this this isn't really the first time I did that.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_06: We were going to remember the bonfire?
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_06: We have a we have a we have a good friend in Ohio who's a veterinarian and she has an annual bonfire, and she invites all of her family and friends, and they have a huge open field.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_06: Like I said, yeah, she has a farm, and uh so she gets this the wood going and and you go over there.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_06: And I was listening to a lecture on the on the way to that.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_06: Do you remember?
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_06: I don't remember.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_06: You put it on you put it on the speaker, and I was and I was I got there, I was no no more informed uh when I got there as I did before you put that stuff on.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_06: So I'm I'm really uh impressed, I'm really uh in awe of of how you handle such complicated material.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_06: It's not easy.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_09: I'm sure it would be the same if I was trying if I just sat down in the middle of you trying to learn something in policing.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, no, the syllables are f far fewer in policing.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_06: It's like book them dano.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_06: You can you can do that, okay?
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_06: You can sit on that, no problem.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_09: I'm Carolyn Kilgore, founder and provider at TrueHealing Healthcare.net.
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  SPEAKER_09: Because you're more than just a list of symptoms.
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  SPEAKER_09: Traditional care often masks the problem, but functional medicine digs deeper to find the root cause.
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• 18:13
  SPEAKER_06: Are you a Christian by any chance?
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, very, very much so.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_04: And I wanted to ask, like, like, why is that exactly?
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, Jesus saved my life.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_04: I'm a sinner, fall short of the glory of God, gave my life to Christ, most important decision I ever made.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_04: So you believe the Bible is real?
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, I believe the Bible is true and real.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_04: Why is that?
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_04: Um, well, I could give you the technical answer.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_04: There's never been an archaeological discovery that has contradicted the truth of the Bible.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_04: Um we know everything the Bible, as far as the kings, as far as the succession of Israeli rulers, to the Jewish people being put in exile, to be put back into uh the land of Jerusalem, to the destruction of the temple in AD 70, all that checks out.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_04: There's never been a discovery that's contradicted it.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_04: From King Hezekiah to King Cyrus to Nehemiah to Zerebabel to this destruction of the creation of the second temple.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_04: Um and then, of course, the wisdom.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_04: There is not a truth of the Bible that if you apply to your life, your life does not improve dramatically.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_04: And then finally, uh, we have the most accurate and transparent, um, the most historically robust account, I should say, uh that one can have of the most important figure ever to live in the history of the world, Jesus of Nazareth.
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  SPEAKER_04: And Jesus of Nazareth, who was born a virgin birth, what we believe is the incarnation, um, performed miracles all throughout Judea and Samaria, eventually uh you know confronted Pharisees, led to a death that he did not deserve, uh, was in the grave for three days, and then rose from the dead.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_04: And the resurrection is the is the pinpoint of my belief that Jesus did rise from the grave so that we may live.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_04: So, what about like the stories of Greek and Roman mythology?
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_04: Do you think any of that is real?
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_04: No.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_04: So then what makes Christian mythology real?
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_04: Well, give me an example of Christian mythology that I can uh do like creation?
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_04: So, like Jessica.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_04: Maybe like like the story of like David and Goliath, for example.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_04: Well, what about the thing?
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_04: Um a sling is actually a rather lethal weapon, especially for someone in a Judean tribe that's trained to use a sling of a young age.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_04: And Goliath was a rather clumsy individual, and if you're able to pinpoint a rock right between the temple lobe, you can effectively kill or uh lobotomize that individual.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_04: So that's hardly mythology.
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_04: Alright, so what about what about the story of Satan's fall then?
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_04: What about that is real?
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_04: In Ezekiel.
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so that's not mythology, but that is theology.
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_04: So in in the story of Satan's fall in the later books of Ezekiel, we we are told that God created the heavens and the earth, God created the angels, and there was a rebellious angel, Lucifer, who led a rebellion against God and brought one-third of the angels with him, and then created what is now as the underworld is the best Hebraic interpretation of that which we now know as hell.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_04: I could go through every single story: Jonah and the whale, parting of the Red Sea, right?
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_04: Ahab on Mount Karma with uh Elijah.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_04: Here's my answer.
• 20:43
  SPEAKER_04: If Genesis 1:1 and the resurrection is true, anything in the Bible is possible.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_04: You're looking at the greatest miracle.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_04: The greatest miracle is creation.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_04: The fact that we have an ordered, intelligible world where we can exist and that human beings are able to flourish, that is a miracle.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_04: In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_04: In Hebrew, that is better shit, in the beginning.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_04: And then the fact that Jesus rose from the dead, and I say, How do you know that Jesus rose from the dead?
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_04: Well, show me another historical piece of uh a story where so many people willingly died, a brutal death, for a lie.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_04: Every single person around him had everything to lose, and yet they went to the absolute death, from Paul to Peter to the half-brother of James, saying that Jesus is Lord, Jesus rose from the dead.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_04: Not to mention, if you were gonna fake a story, you would not use female witnesses in the ancient world.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_04: In the scriptures, it said that the fe the women were the first one to see Jesus Christ.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_04: If you're trying to fake a story, you would never do that.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_04: Not to mention the 500 people that saw Jesus after he rose from the dead, doubting Thomas, and then the later church that uh lived under persecution uh under the belief that Jesus Christ was the Son of God.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_04: All right, one last question.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_04: Do you think do you think Christianity should be forced onto everybody?
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_04: No, no, uh, I don't believe Christianity should be forced.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_04: Then it's not love.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_04: We believe that God loves you, so he will not force you.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_04: And so if you reject God, you will go to hell.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_04: I hope that's not the case for you guys because you can give Jesus Christ, you can live life eternal.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_04: But it's a love story, not a force story.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_04: And so it's this option in front of you.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_04: Will you surrender in front of the cross?
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_04: The cross is this idea that the perfect, the divine, came down and took a human form and died the most brutal death the ancient world knew, the most torturous, brutal death that someone could possibly know, and then rose from the dead to defeat death so you could live forever.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_04: And so it's a gift there right in front of you.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_04: If you take that gift, it transforms you from within, changes your life.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_04: You have joy and happiness that you otherwise would not have.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_04: And but you have a conscious choice to reject that.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_04: And um, I hope you don't.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_04: And if you reject that, then uh the you you will go where you want to go, which is um in absence and the the furthest distance one can be from the divine.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_02: The revelation to John.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_02: Chapter eleven.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_02: Then I was given a measuring rod like a staff, and I was told, Rise and measure the temple of God and the altar and those who worship there, but do not measure the court outside the temple.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_02: Leave that out, for it is given over to the nations, and they will trample the holy city for forty-two months, and I will grant authority to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for one thousand two hundred and sixty days, clothed in sackcloth.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_02: These are the two olive trees and the two lampstands that stand before the Lord of the earth, and if anyone would harm them, fire pours from their mouth and consumes their foes.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_02: If anyone would harm them, this is how he is doomed to be killed.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_02: They have the power to shut the sky, that no rain may fall during the days of their prophesying, and they have power over the waters to turn them into blood and to strike the earth with every kind of plague, as often as they desire.
• 23:51
  SPEAKER_02: And when they have finished their testimony, the beast that rises from the bottomless pit will make war on them, and conquer them and kill them, and their dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city that symbolically is called Sodom and Egypt, where their Lord was crucified.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_02: For three and a half days some from the peoples and tribes and languages and nations will gaze at their dead bodies and refuse to let them be placed in a tomb, and those who dwell on the earth will rejoice over them and make merry and exchange presents, because these two prophets had been a torment to those who dwell on the earth.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_02: But after the three and a half days a breath of life from God entered them, and they stood up on their feet, and great fear fell on those who saw them.
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_02: Then they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, Come up here, and they went up to heaven in a cloud, and their enemies watched them.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_02: And at that hour there was a great earthquake, and a tenth of the city fell.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_02: Seven thousand people were killed in the earthquake, and the rest were terrified, and gave glory to the God of heaven.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_02: The second woe has passed.
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_02: Behold, the third woe is soon to come.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_02: Then the seventh angel blew his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven saying, The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he shall reign for ever and ever.
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_02: And the twenty four elders who sit on their thrones before God fell on their faces and worshipped God, saying, We give thanks to you, Lord God Almighty, who is and who was, for you have taken your great power and begun to reign.
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_02: The nations raged, but your wrath came, and the time for the dead to be judged, and for rewarding your servants, the prophets and saints, and those who fear your name, both small and great, and for destroying the destroyers of the earth.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_02: Then God's temple in heaven was opened, and the ark of his covenant was seen within his temple.
• 26:15
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