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10/14/2026 Ask the Expert with Larry Dawson · WCHS Network Podcasts

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Speaker 1: The views and opinions expressed on this program do not
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Speaker 1: necessarily reflect the.
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Speaker 2: And a very pleasant good morning to you. You are
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Speaker 2: listening to The Voice of Charleston 580 WCHS. I'm Dale Cooper.
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Speaker 2: Thanks for tuning in on this Wednesday morning here in
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Speaker 2: the state of West Virginia in the city of Charleston
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Speaker 2: on 580 WCHS. Joining me in studio this morning, welcoming
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Speaker 2: him back into studio for his October run at things,
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Speaker 2: it is Larry Dawson from Larry Dawson's Stillbuys Cars. How
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Speaker 2: are you doing this morning, Larry?
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Speaker 3: Good morning, good morning. It's a beautiful drive up here.
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Speaker 3: Yesterday was a picture-perfect day. I think we're going to
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Speaker 3: have another one today and If I heard the weather
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Speaker 3: correct from the station, I think maybe if you're going
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Speaker 3: to one of those Friday night games, you want to
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Speaker 3: address that before you go because you might get a
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Speaker 3: little moist and a little cool. And I plan to
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Speaker 3: go to Friday's hurricane game. But this time of year,
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Speaker 3: you always keep your jacket nearby where you can put
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Speaker 3: it on or take it off.
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Speaker 1: That's right, yeah.
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Speaker 3: I drove up to Snowshoe Friday because it dawned upon me.
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Speaker 3: that I hadn't turned the heat on last time I.
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Speaker 1: Was up there. Uh-oh. I was getting there.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I thought, you know, I might as well
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Speaker 3: drive up there and just turn the thermostats on. And
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Speaker 3: so I did. And Friday, oh, my goodness, it was
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Speaker 3: so pretty. And Saturday, the weather just changed a little bit.
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Speaker 3: If that storm didn't blow the leaves down, and I
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Speaker 3: don't think it did, this should be the peak weekend
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Speaker 3: up in Pocahontas County. It sure was pretty driving off
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Speaker 3: Snowshoe Drive and coming down through there. I went across
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Speaker 3: Point Mountain, which is Webster Springs, down to Valley Head.
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Speaker 3: And it's not the route I always take, but it's
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Speaker 3: a very pretty route. You can always go across the
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Speaker 3: scenic highway. For the leaf peepers, if you're going to
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Speaker 3: do anything to go look, I would say this weekend.
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Speaker 3: And is this not Bridge Day weekend also?
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Speaker 1: I believe that's correct, yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. So it should be just a
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Speaker 3: little cooler. Wear your sweatshirt and bring your WVU and
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Speaker 3: go up there and enjoy it. Because I think one
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Speaker 3: good real hard frost and rain, they're going. You know,
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Speaker 3: our leaves will be going. So if you want to
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Speaker 3: take advantage of it, especially in the higher elevated areas.
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Speaker 3: is jump in that newly purchased car.
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Speaker 1: There you go.
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Speaker 3: Or the one you got for sale that you're thinking
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Speaker 3: about calling Larry Dawson at 304-545-0211. There we go. And
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Speaker 3: you're thinking about selling, or you want to sell, and
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Speaker 3: you don't want to deal with people that might not
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Speaker 3: have West Virginia language. Not saying that's a good thing
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Speaker 3: or a bad thing, but I can speak West Virginian.
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Speaker 3: And I probably know 75% of the people with a
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Speaker 3: 75 miles radius.
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Speaker 1: That's true.
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Speaker 3: If you want to talk to somebody you probably have met,
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Speaker 3: you've done business with, or you just need a little
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Speaker 3: bit of advice. You sent me something interesting this morning.
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Speaker 3: And to let the audience know, it was a video
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Speaker 3: on things to look for before you purchase a used car.
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Speaker 3: And one thing I'd like to add to it, I
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Speaker 3: can't describe exactly what all it was about, but it's
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Speaker 3: Go slow and watch for snakes. And it will be
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Speaker 3: okay if you don't get the car because there's another one.
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Speaker 3: It may not be exactly the same. But, you know,
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Speaker 3: an automobile is our second largest purchase behind our home.
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Speaker 3: You know, you can throw the motorhome and the boat
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Speaker 3: out because that's more like a luxury item. But a
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Speaker 3: necessity is a home or roof over your house ahead.
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Speaker 3: And an automobile to drive, whether you lease it or
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Speaker 3: buy it, you know, you have ownership of some sorts
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Speaker 3: in the vehicle. And what I've talked about on this
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Speaker 3: show for probably a decade, by my long experience of
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Speaker 3: buying cars and looking at automobiles, the pride of ownership
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Speaker 3: has really decreased. I can tell it when you open
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Speaker 3: the door. I mean, Not saying that it's a blanket
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Speaker 3: thrown over everybody, but there's a majority out there that
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Speaker 3: does not take interest in the automobile anymore. You and
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Speaker 3: I have shared this story many times about driving around
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Speaker 3: in Kanawha City when you and I was more youthful.
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Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, right.
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Speaker 3: Or at Coonskin where we could communicate.
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Speaker 2: People would stop and get out with rags and they
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Speaker 2: would talk to each other, be polishing up their bumpers.
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Speaker 2: You didn't even have to have like a special car
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Speaker 2: or a classic car or something. You just had to
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Speaker 2: have pride in whatever you had. Now, most people might
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Speaker 2: have had like some sort of a Wolfer in the
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Speaker 2: back and they were bumping some bass or something like that.
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Speaker 2: But it didn't have to be an expensive car. They
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Speaker 2: were out there taking care of it.
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Speaker 3: My first car was a 72 Vega. I graduated from
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Speaker 3: Winfield in 76. I think I purchased that car in 74.
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Speaker 3: Mother and father took me down to the bank. I
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Speaker 3: had a payment, so I had to get a job.
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Speaker 3: I worked at Hex after school, and I would make payments.
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Speaker 3: And I took great pride in a 72 Vega. And
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Speaker 3: I believe the car was $ 1, 200, and I believe the
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Speaker 3: payment was like 60-something. That was important to me as
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Speaker 3: buying cars. a $ 60, 000 car in today's terms and having
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Speaker 3: a $ 600 payment. Same principle applies. I had pride in it.
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Speaker 3: Not that I have a car payment, but if I
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Speaker 3: was to go out and purchase one, you know, you
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Speaker 3: got a choice of writing a check, which deplenishes your
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Speaker 3: nest egg, or you make payments. And, you know, you
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Speaker 3: better take care of it because I tell you, valuations
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Speaker 3: of cars, maybe the Vega, if I didn't take care
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Speaker 3: of it, instead of being a $ 1, 200 car, it fell
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Speaker 3: to $ 800. You don't take care of that $ 60, 000 car,
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Speaker 3: that thing could fall to $ 30, 000 or below. These are investments.
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Speaker 3: And I see so common today that people will allow
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Speaker 3: debris to gather and service to not be done on
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Speaker 3: time and where you really have a costly.
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Speaker 1: Expense.
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Speaker 3: I took Kim's car and my truck over to an
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Speaker 3: independent garage in St. Albans, S & S Automotive. Scott,
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Speaker 3: I'm going to give you a plug. And he knows
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Speaker 3: when I pull in there to rotate and balance, change
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Speaker 3: my oil, and inspect everything. And I pay that extra
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Speaker 3: because tires are very expensive. I just put tires on
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Speaker 3: that vehicle I drove up here. It's my personal truck.
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Speaker 3: And I am a fan of Michelin tires, but I
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Speaker 3: can get 60,000 miles out of them. But I have
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Speaker 3: to balance and make sure the alignment is proper every
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Speaker 3: six months or so. That's the life of a tire.
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Speaker 3: If your tire light comes on, it's telling you you've
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Speaker 3: got either, well, most of it. Most tires don't add air,
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Speaker 3: so they're normally low on air. And so it's one
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Speaker 3: of those simple things, and it just takes just a
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Speaker 3: minute to do it. But, you know, you'll wear a
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Speaker 3: front tire out. And so you balance them, and, you know,
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Speaker 3: you go back and forth. And, you know, I guess
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Speaker 3: this show is called Ask the Expert. I'm not so
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Speaker 3: much in the buying and selling game. I'm more in– well,
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Speaker 3: I'm all in the buying game. But I have a
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Speaker 3: lot of information that's just so easy to– pass along,
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Speaker 3: and really easy to maintain if you, A, listen, and B,
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Speaker 3: do it. Because these are huge investments today. Huge investments.
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Speaker 3: And I am a person that when I buy something,
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Speaker 3: I'm like, Jeff, you know, it sits out there. I've
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Speaker 3: seen that same vehicle he has for quite some time. Well,
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Speaker 3: I've got one almost equivalent to it. They did not
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Speaker 3: maintain their luster without effort. They did not maintain their
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Speaker 3: their workmanship and their mechanicals without a little bit of effort.
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Speaker 2: You know, one of the things that I learned, um,
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Speaker 2: we've talked before with my experience with working with, uh,
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Speaker 2: with enterprise rental car company.
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Speaker 3: Oh yes.
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Speaker 2: And one of the things that, that I guess as a,
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Speaker 2: I was a little late working there with the situation
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Speaker 2: in my life. They usually onboard very young people, usually
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Speaker 2: right out of college or something. And I, I was
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Speaker 2: already a business owner when I actually went to enterprise
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Speaker 2: and felt like I was mature in life relatively and
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Speaker 2: stuff like that. And, The one thing that really dialed
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Speaker 2: into me was one thing that they were very good.
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Speaker 2: At least if you're a good manager and you have
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Speaker 2: good team at your branch, you actually do very good
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Speaker 2: maintenance with your vehicles. I mean, protecting your fleet and
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Speaker 2: protecting your vehicles, that's one of the main things that
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Speaker 2: your job is as a manager at the place. We
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Speaker 2: call them loafers, which is loyal fluids and rotate. So
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Speaker 2: you get a loafer every whenever you do it and
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Speaker 2: you get everything done at one time. You go ahead
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Speaker 2: and rotate your tires. You go ahead and get all
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Speaker 2: those things done. But what that does is, and it's
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Speaker 2: absolutely true, and I've carried most of that forward through
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Speaker 2: my post-enterprise life, that I didn't have those practices as
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Speaker 2: a 30-year-old man when I first started working there or
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Speaker 2: whatever it was, is now I do that all the time.
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Speaker 2: And plus, doing shows with you where you talk about
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Speaker 2: getting your inspection, making sure everything's good with the vehicle
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Speaker 2: to start with and stuff like that, those are all mature, honestly,
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Speaker 2: maneuvers to make to make sure that you're doing the
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Speaker 2: right things. And getting that oil change done on your
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Speaker 2: regular basis and Check your manufacturer. It's not necessarily every 3,000 miles.
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Speaker 2: It might be four or five or whatever. Check your
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Speaker 2: manufacturer and make sure you're doing it the right amount
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Speaker 2: of time and stuff like that. But that rotating your tires, man,
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Speaker 2: how expensive are tires these days? And you can extend
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Speaker 2: them by rotating them.
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Speaker 4: Them.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just common sense.
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Speaker 3: Those Michelins, I believe, was $ 1, 200.
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Speaker 1: To $ 1, 300.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. But my last set of Michelin tires lasted 60,000 miles.
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Speaker 1: Because you rotated them.
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Speaker 3: Because I rotated them. And I just think Michelin is
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Speaker 3: a better tire. And I know there are people who
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Speaker 3: want to argue that point. And maybe I'm wrong. But–
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Speaker 3: It worked for me. And so when something works, I'm
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Speaker 3: a pretty loyal individual. You know, if something's working and
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Speaker 3: if I have an experience with you and it's good,
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Speaker 3: I continue doing business. I will not base it upon price.
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Speaker 3: I never base any relationship on price. When I say relationship,
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Speaker 3: any workmanship that I need to have done. All my vendors,
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Speaker 3: as long as I was in business and still do
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Speaker 3: a little bit of business, they will tell you. When
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Speaker 3: I call them and I need something done, they know
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Speaker 3: two things is going to happen. I'm not going to
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Speaker 3: ask them how much so we can negotiate. I'm going
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Speaker 3: to ask them what I owe them after the job,
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Speaker 3: and they're going to get a check. And I established that,
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Speaker 3: and I found that to be fair. Now, would I
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Speaker 3: like to have it a little cheaper? Well, yes. But
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Speaker 3: do I want it consistent? Absolutely. I'll take consistency any
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Speaker 3: day over a price. So if you have that good
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Speaker 3: relationship with your automobile dealer, or your automobile salesperson. And
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Speaker 3: they can talk. They can answer your questions. This AI
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Speaker 3: thing scares me. But, well, I'm worried about it. Is
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Speaker 3: continue it. Don't get hung up on price. Because I
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Speaker 3: tell you, you can get an excellent car with a
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Speaker 3: really bad experience. You got a bad experience. And I
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Speaker 3: have seen in the past over my career, is the
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Speaker 3: outside influencer influencing you to do something that they really
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Speaker 3: want that you really don't, but you go their way.
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Speaker 3: Keep that decision between yourself. I mean, if you have
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Speaker 3: a spouse or the family member, you do that. But
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Speaker 3: you can get lost in the high weeds out there
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Speaker 3: because there is a lot of, let's just say, I
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Speaker 3: don't want to use the word gimmick, but there's a
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Speaker 3: lot of salesmanship with a lot of fluff that Zero
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Speaker 3: down and make a lot of decisions before you get
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Speaker 3: on that stage. There's so much information at these screens
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Speaker 3: that we all look at, some good, some bad. Don't
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Speaker 3: let it influence you if you're seeing one bad post
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Speaker 3: and 10 good ones on a particular vehicle. I had
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Speaker 3: a little get-together down at my farm two weeks ago,
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Speaker 3: and A very dear friend of mine was asking about
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Speaker 3: a particular brand, and he said, but I read this review,
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Speaker 3: and I read several, and I said, listen, and I'll
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Speaker 3: just tell you what it was. It was a Toyota.
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Speaker 3: I said, it doesn't matter whether it's bad or not.
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Speaker 3: If Toyota finds out it is bad, they'll fix it.
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Speaker 3: I mean, that's a company that bought cars, bought Toyota
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Speaker 3: Tacomas back years later because they found out the vendor
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Speaker 3: they bought the frames from was inadequate steel from the manufacturer,
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Speaker 3: and they were rusting prematurely. So what did Toyota do?
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Speaker 3: They bought them all back. I've never in my history
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Speaker 3: of the automobile world ever seen a manufacturer do that.
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Speaker 3: Now Hyundai and Kia is replacing motors, and they should
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Speaker 3: replace motors. They've got an oiling problem that is in,
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Speaker 3: I think, the 2.4, and they extended warranties. GM's got
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Speaker 3: a 6.2 motor problem. Those 6.2 motors are falling out
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Speaker 3: of those vehicles. I mean, they're just locking up. They've
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Speaker 3: got an oiling issue. And so they're going back. Well,
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Speaker 3: you know, they should. I get frustrated when I see
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Speaker 3: or hear of not someone getting help from the manufacturer
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Speaker 3: because it's like a chain. If you pull them at
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Speaker 3: both ends, there's a weak link. If they multiple produce,
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Speaker 3: you know, 100, 200, 300,000 of those, that link is
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Speaker 3: weak in all of them. And they should go back
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Speaker 3: and fix them. especially when it's a safety feature. And
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Speaker 3: I think a motor locking up as you're driving down
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Speaker 3: the freeway is a safety issue. My niece happened to
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Speaker 3: be talking to me on a cell phone in her
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Speaker 3: Tahoe when her motor locked up, and it was under warranty.
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Speaker 1: Now, I own.
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Speaker 3: A 6.2 in a 13 Denali, different motor, different oiling system.
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Speaker 3: It's been trouble-free. I think that problem started around 19
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Speaker 3: or 20, somewhere in that vicinity. I'm not sure. I
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Speaker 3: don't even know if it's fixed today. They say it is.
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Speaker 1: I don't know.
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Speaker 3: But there's a lot of 6-2 GM owners that are
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Speaker 3: pretty upset. And, you know, if you fall outside that warranty,
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Speaker 3: I think a manufacturer should extend that as long as
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Speaker 3: you have your oil change receipts.
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Speaker 1: You're absolutely right.
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Speaker 3: And how do you have those receipts? You go get
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Speaker 3: your oil change. You don't throw them in the trash.
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Speaker 3: You don't throw them in the back seat. You know,
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Speaker 3: you get your little envelope. The envelopes are rather cheap,
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Speaker 3: and you fold them up, and you put them in
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Speaker 3: your glove compartment. So when you pull in there at 75,000 miles,
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Speaker 3: and you've lost your motor, and they say something to them,
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Speaker 3: you hand it to them. It's hard to dispute that.
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Speaker 3: And it's so simple to do. My advice, you know,
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Speaker 3: whether you take it or not, don't go to the
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Speaker 3: cheapest oil change place. You know, if you see one
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Speaker 3: that's opened up, we're going to do it for $ 19.
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Speaker 2: 95.
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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Go to– be consistent. Now, if you move and it's
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Speaker 3: not user-friendly because you moved, I understand. But I have
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Speaker 3: one spot I go to. I just mentioned his name.
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Speaker 3: I've got to wait in line. I've got to call
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Speaker 3: and make an appointment. I'm a busy person. Is it
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Speaker 3: a hassle? Not really. It's my duty. I mean, I
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Speaker 3: have an automobile. Well, I have a couple of them. Actually,
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Speaker 3: I've got several. But I maintain them. I have one
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Speaker 3: vehicle sitting in my garage. It's a Porsche Carrera. And
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Speaker 3: you know what's on it? A battery tender. Because if
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Speaker 3: I don't put a battery tender on it, what's going
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Speaker 3: to be dead? The battery.
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Speaker 1: You ever try to.
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Speaker 3: Jump a Porsche?
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Speaker 1: No, but it doesn't sound like it would be fun.
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Speaker 3: Well, your battery's up here and your motor's back here.
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Speaker 3: So you've got a cord reaches from here to the
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Speaker 3: hallway and you just can't put little jumper cables on it.
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Speaker 3: So these are mechanical devices that you drive and you
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Speaker 3: put your family in. Take care of. You know, that's
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Speaker 3: just one thing that I have always stressed. I've done
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Speaker 3: this show for 22 or three years, and I've spoke
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Speaker 3: about this probably more than I've ever talked about. Buying
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Speaker 3: and selling automobiles is maintaining your vehicle.
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Speaker 1: And it's absolutely true.
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Speaker 2: To just briefly touch back on my experience with Enterprise,
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Speaker 2: one of the reasons we did all of that maintenance
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Speaker 2: and we kept track of all that maintenance, and we
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Speaker 2: had relationships with the oil change places we went to,
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Speaker 2: so our paperwork was always on file and everything, exactly
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Speaker 2: what you're talking about– They would make huge investments with
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Speaker 2: General Motors or somebody to buy vehicles. If you started
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Speaker 2: having vehicles that were, frankly, lemons or turning up bad
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Speaker 2: or something along those lines, you needed to have some
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Speaker 2: sort of proof that you were taking care of those vehicles.
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Speaker 2: And you know what? Now, Enterprise had a lot of
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Speaker 2: leverage because they bought a lot of vehicles.
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Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong.
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Speaker 2: But manufacturers very rarely push back. They would swap out vehicles, reimburse.
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Speaker 2: They would do things because, generally speaking, they're going to
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Speaker 2: protect their brand. And they don't want for those things
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Speaker 2: to happen. But you have to have your– paperwork in
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Speaker 2: order to show that you took care of the vehicle.
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Speaker 3: You have to have your evidence.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely.
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Speaker 3: And don't think that these manufacturers does not know what
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Speaker 3: John Q. Public, how they're treating the cars today, because
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Speaker 3: they have dealers that take these cars in on trade.
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Speaker 3: But if you have your evidence, your folder that you
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Speaker 3: can go in. My niece spoke to her today early
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Speaker 3: on the phone, and she runs Enterprise in Clarksburg. She
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Speaker 3: started out at sort of an entry-level position. That girl
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Speaker 3: is on the fast track. They like her. She's a
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Speaker 3: people person. But what I have seen in my niece
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Speaker 3: in the five years is the maturity level. Now, obviously,
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Speaker 3: she's went from early 20s to upper 20s, so you
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Speaker 3: mature anyway. But she was down in my little gathering
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Speaker 3: at the farm, and she was a different girl. Because
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Speaker 3: she has experience and she understands obligations and serving the public.
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Speaker 3: You're going to serve the public in an automobile. You
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Speaker 3: better put a good product out there if you want
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Speaker 3: to be there for, well, I was there 37 years.
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Speaker 3: I think that speaks of how I did it. You
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Speaker 3: show me an independent dealer that has retailed in a
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Speaker 3: small community for 37 years and never was sued. I'll
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Speaker 3: show you a person that took it seriously. And I
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Speaker 3: could tell in her voice, I was standing beside her dad,
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Speaker 3: which happens to be my brother. And I looked at
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Speaker 3: him with a smile because I believe that the company
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Speaker 3: you used to work for and she worked for is
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Speaker 3: full of integrity. And they're going to do it their
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Speaker 3: way and the right way. And they don't really care
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Speaker 3: what you want to do. They have a manual and
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Speaker 3: you're shaking your head just because they want to do
19:07
Speaker 3: it their way. I believe it's probably one of the
19:10
Speaker 3: best-ran companies independently owned, family-owned business. I'd go out on
19:17
Speaker 3: a limb and say it's probably the best-ran family-owned business
19:20
Speaker 3: that I've ever– is it the Taylor family?
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Speaker 4: Yes.
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Speaker 1: As far as I know, it still is. Yeah.
19:24
Speaker 3: And I'll go just a little farther with this. I
19:29
Speaker 3: sold their CEO. His name is James Gibbo. I know
19:35
Speaker 3: him as Jamie because I've known him all his life.
19:38
Speaker 3: I sold him his first car when he was going
19:40
Speaker 3: to Polka High School.
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Speaker 1: Ha, ha, ha.
19:42
Speaker 3: Now, I have not seen Jamie since his mother passed,
19:46
Speaker 3: but I know those boys. He has a brother, John.
19:50
Speaker 3: and he was an accountant and somehow he got on
19:53
Speaker 3: enterprise in the accounting division and he has went the
19:57
Speaker 3: fast he's the cfo ceo or something he's but he's
20:00
Speaker 3: up there nice and and I bought a building, I
20:04
Speaker 3: don't know, four or five, six years ago. It was
20:07
Speaker 3: from the Landers family, which incorporates the Gibbos. This building
20:12
Speaker 3: was built in the late 40s. And when I bought it,
20:16
Speaker 3: I was remodeling it, and I found a brick with
20:20
Speaker 3: his great-grandmother's or maybe his great-great-grandmother's name engraved in it.
20:27
Speaker 3: I took it over here to Patrick Street Enterprise. I
20:29
Speaker 3: know the gentleman that runs the store. And I said,
20:31
Speaker 3: next time the corporate jet's in here, Hand this to
20:34
Speaker 3: the pilot or whoever it is and ask him to
20:37
Speaker 3: give it to Mr. Jibo. And I put my business card.
20:41
Speaker 3: Because it meant a lot to me knowing that young
20:44
Speaker 3: man grew up in Polka, West Virginia. And he's right
20:47
Speaker 3: up the very top. What I think is one of
20:50
Speaker 3: the best-run companies there is. And I'm not knocking like
20:55
Speaker 3: I think Steve Moses and Joe Holliday. I think they
20:57
Speaker 3: run wonderful business. But they're not. I don't know. Is
21:02
Speaker 3: it Enterprise International?
21:04
Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
21:05
Speaker 2: At least when you went through training and stuff when
21:08
Speaker 2: I was there, the way they positioned themselves is the
21:11
Speaker 2: largest family-owned business in the world.
21:13
Speaker 3: So, you know, I think the Moses family, I think
21:17
Speaker 3: the Holland family, there are several families in automobile business.
21:22
Speaker 3: It has become more of a Multi-store chain around here.
21:29
Speaker 3: You have Chris Miller running the Dutch Miller Organization, which
21:32
Speaker 3: was his grandfather's. I kind of know Chris. I knew
21:36
Speaker 3: his family better. Steve and Bob, I think so much of.
21:41
Speaker 3: Joey and Brett, they're just wonderful operators. But my relationship
21:48
Speaker 3: as I was growing up was with Joey. Joey's probably
21:51
Speaker 3: two years older than me, and Steve's a couple years
21:53
Speaker 3: older than me. But we came up. together doing this
21:57
Speaker 3: deal well they're youngsters and their grandchildren that's running it
22:01
Speaker 3: i mean i know them and they're wonderful people i
22:03
Speaker 3: just don't know them know them you know i've got
22:05
Speaker 3: to know you over the last many years and so
22:08
Speaker 3: we have a connections when you and if one day
22:12
Speaker 3: when assy i see her on the street and she's
22:14
Speaker 3: 24 years old i said i know your daddy that's
22:17
Speaker 3: right but we don't we will never have this because
22:20
Speaker 3: we'll never have the opportunity but But Mr. Jamie Gibbo,
22:25
Speaker 3: as I call him, Mr. Gibbo, I knew him when
22:28
Speaker 3: he was a kid. And I saw him in Little
22:30
Speaker 3: Camaro when he turned, I don't know, 16, 17 years old.
22:34
Speaker 3: One day I'll spot him on these stores and I'd
22:36
Speaker 3: like to pull him over and kid him a little bit. But,
22:39
Speaker 3: you know, he's got a big job. And I'm proud.
22:41
Speaker 3: We come right out poking, but I'm counting.
22:44
Speaker 2: That's Larry Dawson from Larry Dawson. He still buys cars.
22:47
Speaker 2: We'll get more information out in just a moment. Great
22:49
Speaker 2: conversation we're having this morning. As always, you can get
22:52
Speaker 2: in on the conversation as well. You can call us
22:53
Speaker 2: this morning, 304-345-5858. 304-345-5858 is our number. You can also
22:59
Speaker 2: text 304-935-5008. Let me take a look and see if
23:02
Speaker 2: we have any texts before we go to break here.
23:04
Speaker 1: Let's see. Yes, there is.
23:05
Speaker 2: So let's do this text first, and we'll take our break. Larry,
23:08
Speaker 2: from the 760900, is there a difference in regular oil
23:12
Speaker 2: and high mileage oil?
23:15
Speaker 3: I do not know. And oil seems to be the
23:18
Speaker 3: subject of a lot of conversations. Once again, down at
23:21
Speaker 3: my little gathering farm, I was asked that question from
23:25
Speaker 3: a retired fire chief, Dunbar. He bought a Nissan. He said, Larry,
23:32
Speaker 3: he said, off the record, oil. He said, this thing's
23:35
Speaker 3: telling me to use zero viscosity oil. Well, that means
23:40
Speaker 3: us older guys, we just go against that grain. We go, zero?
23:45
Speaker 3: And my answer was, I do not know, but I
23:48
Speaker 3: would take the first oil change to the manufacturer to
23:51
Speaker 3: a Nissan store and ask them to change your oil
23:55
Speaker 3: and pay them and keep that receipt. And now you've
23:58
Speaker 3: got the first step what Nissan tells you to do.
24:01
Speaker 3: And if you'd like, you want to go to another
24:03
Speaker 3: oil change place, it's yours. But set a presence, find out,
24:06
Speaker 3: go to the manufacturer, because I'm telling you, they'll kick
24:10
Speaker 3: out a warranty claim.
24:12
Speaker 2: And I've been to oil change places before where they're like, well,
24:16
Speaker 2: what kind of oil do you want today?
24:17
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, I don't know. What's good?
24:18
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, I don't know. Put in some whatever.
24:20
Speaker 2: They'll just put in whatever that they think you should
24:22
Speaker 2: go in there. They're not experts.
24:24
Speaker 3: When you're running a discount anything, you're running a discount
24:28
Speaker 3: because discount means discount. I associate that word with maybe
24:34
Speaker 3: less quality and cheaper. May not be true, but That
24:40
Speaker 3: was my answer to that, gentlemen. This is my answer
24:42
Speaker 3: to whoever texts. Whatever brand you have, once you go
24:47
Speaker 3: to that manufacturer at least one time and get your
24:51
Speaker 3: oil change and save that receipt, that will tell you
24:54
Speaker 3: what the manufacturer is telling you what to do. Not
24:56
Speaker 3: the internet, not TikTok, not Facebook, not your next-door neighbor
25:01
Speaker 3: that worked at the garage 42 years ago. It's what
25:04
Speaker 3: the manufacturer is telling you what to do.
25:05
Speaker 2: So you're saying if you have like a high mileage
25:07
Speaker 2: Nissan or something along those lines, take it to the manufacturer,
25:10
Speaker 2: get your oil changed, see what they recommend. Then even
25:13
Speaker 2: if you go to a third-party place down the line,
25:15
Speaker 2: you have the instructions. I want this viscosity. I want this,
25:19
Speaker 2: so on and so forth. That's a great idea.
25:20
Speaker 3: Because there is low viscosity oil that goes against the
25:27
Speaker 3: grain of what you and I was taught. Yeah, right.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't think like that, right.
25:32
Speaker 3: You grew up with 10W30.
25:34
Speaker 1: Exactly, yeah, exactly.
25:35
Speaker 3: And so did I. Well, there's zeros. And you better
25:39
Speaker 3: know what you're doing now. One last story before we
25:42
Speaker 3: change or before we go to break. One of my
25:45
Speaker 3: last vehicles I bought, probably in the last two or
25:47
Speaker 3: three years I was in business, was a late model 3,000
25:51
Speaker 3: or 4,000-mile Subaru. It had a check engine light on it. Well,
25:56
Speaker 3: that's no big deal. I didn't think. And as I
25:59
Speaker 3: was driving back, it started jumping and jerking and it
26:02
Speaker 3: just all but wouldn't go. I couldn't figure out what
26:06
Speaker 3: was wrong. I took it up to the Subaru store
26:09
Speaker 3: because it was a Subaru. And I said, this thing's
26:11
Speaker 3: jerking and it's got a check engine light on. I said,
26:14
Speaker 3: it's got to be under warranty. They called me back
26:17
Speaker 3: and said, well, here's the problem. Somebody changed their own oil.
26:22
Speaker 3: And this is a common mistake in a Subaru. The
26:25
Speaker 3: oil drain plug. And a transmission drain plug is very
26:31
Speaker 3: close to each other. A lot of people decide to
26:35
Speaker 3: do it from home, changes, and they drop their transmission fluid.
26:38
Speaker 2: Whoops.
26:39
Speaker 3: If you don't put CVT transmission fluid back in it,
26:44
Speaker 3: you burn your transmission up. Well, evidently, that's what happened
26:47
Speaker 3: to this. They put transmission fluid in it, realized their mistake,
26:52
Speaker 3: took it to a store, and traded it. And somebody
26:55
Speaker 3: with 3,000 or 4,000 or 5,000 miles didn't drive it.
26:58
Speaker 3: like this guy you're talking to, because you factor your
27:01
Speaker 3: warranty check in, it's like no big deal. Well, about $ 8, 000 later,
27:05
Speaker 3: when I bought a transmission, do it yourself. Somebody drained,
27:11
Speaker 3: and I later found out, pretty common mistake. It's okay
27:16
Speaker 3: if you put the CVT transmission fluid back in for
27:18
Speaker 3: a Subaru, but if you just put regular transmission fluid in,
27:22
Speaker 3: you might go five miles.
27:24
Speaker 1: Wow, really?
27:25
Speaker 4: Yes.
27:25
Speaker 1: That quick?
27:26
Speaker 3: So for your doer self, you better make sure YouTube
27:30
Speaker 3: is a wonderful place.
27:32
Speaker 2: And like you were alluding to earlier, when I was young,
27:34
Speaker 2: you just had your oil pan, you drug it out
27:36
Speaker 2: of your garage, you went up there, you cracked the bolt,
27:38
Speaker 2: let it drain out.
27:39
Speaker 3: Mirror creek.
27:40
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
27:42
Speaker 5: What?
27:44
Speaker 2: Or maybe a drain in the middle of the road.
27:48
Speaker 2: I don't know what you're talking about. You plug that
27:50
Speaker 2: thing in there and you're good to go. I mean,
27:52
Speaker 2: that's what– and then you had your little logbook in
27:54
Speaker 2: your dashboard and you put your mileage down on there
27:56
Speaker 2: and– Growing up, that's the way we did things, and
27:58
Speaker 2: there was like two choices.
27:59
Speaker 1: It was that oil or that oil. It's not the
28:02
Speaker 1: case anymore, man. It's a lot more complicated than it
28:04
Speaker 1: used to be. Let's do this.
28:05
Speaker 2: Let's go ahead and take a break. If you have
28:06
Speaker 2: any questions about any of that stuff or obviously any
28:08
Speaker 2: questions about how Larry can help you out. With any
28:10
Speaker 2: of the questions you have around your vehicle, you can
28:12
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28:19
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28:21
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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Voice of Charleston 580 WCHS.
29:49
Speaker 2: I'm Dale Cooper. Larry Dawson is in the studio with
29:50
Speaker 2: us this morning taking your phone calls. If you have
29:52
Speaker 2: any questions about selling vehicles, buying vehicles, Larry can help
29:55
Speaker 2: you out. Maybe you have a little difficult situation you're
29:57
Speaker 2: trying to figure out your way through or a testimonial.
29:59
Speaker 2: We have people calling all the time to talk about
30:01
Speaker 2: how Larry has helped them out. which usually spawns other
30:03
Speaker 2: conversations around an important topic. So you're welcome to give
30:06
Speaker 2: us a call this morning as well on that, 304-345-5858.
30:08
Speaker 5: 304-345-5858.
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Speaker 2: There's a myriad of ways that Larry can help you out.
30:13
Speaker 2: Of course, he still buys cars. You can give us
30:15
Speaker 2: a call this morning. Larry Dawson at 304-345-5858.
30:21
Speaker 3: My son just texted me, and he's taught me a
30:23
Speaker 3: lot about running a business. He owns his own business.
30:28
Speaker 3: He is in the condo management business. And he was
30:33
Speaker 3: at Snowshoe with me one weekend. It was a very
30:38
Speaker 3: busy weekend at Myrtle, checking people in and out. And
30:43
Speaker 3: he would say, Dad, hold on a minute. He said,
30:46
Speaker 3: I need to use my phone. And he did all
30:48
Speaker 3: these check-ins, checks-out, let people know, and all by his phone,
30:53
Speaker 3: by changing codes, by texting to get service people in
30:56
Speaker 3: there to get it cleaned up. He was doing it
30:58
Speaker 3: all by phone. Well, let's just wind it back about
31:01
Speaker 3: 15 years ago. You'd be on the phone screaming, telling
31:05
Speaker 3: the people, no, there's people still in there. Because what
31:08
Speaker 3: was happening was people were driving down and wanting in
31:12
Speaker 3: their condo at 11, and it clearly said 3 o'clock
31:15
Speaker 3: was check-in time. There's people still in there. Well, I
31:18
Speaker 3: think you want it cleaned. And he was trying to
31:21
Speaker 3: manage that. And I sat there and watched him actually
31:23
Speaker 3: kind of with amazement that he was able to take
31:26
Speaker 3: that phone, and then he went to his laptop and
31:29
Speaker 3: do things. That in the automobile world, as I was
31:33
Speaker 3: taught and trained, and even my last days, you know,
31:37
Speaker 3: 90% of it was what you and I were doing.
31:40
Speaker 3: We were talking, we were communicating. Now there was paperwork
31:43
Speaker 3: that we had to do. And obviously when you purchase
31:45
Speaker 3: a car, I've sold you a car. And, you know,
31:47
Speaker 3: there's this paperwork you have to do to create a trail.
31:49
Speaker 3: But today with DocuSign and all the things you can
31:53
Speaker 3: do electronically. And so when, if, and when, well not, if,
31:59
Speaker 3: it's when, AI does come in in our everyday life,
32:04
Speaker 3: what happens to our signature? What happens to our commitment?
32:10
Speaker 3: What happens to how could you possibly read a 43-page
32:14
Speaker 3: acknowledgement of what you're about to sign? I mean, word
32:18
Speaker 3: for word. I mean, we'd have to go get F.
32:20
Speaker 3: Lee Bailey and dig him up to explain all this
32:23
Speaker 3: to us. I don't quite understand how this is going
32:25
Speaker 3: to go. I really don't even understand how it's going
32:27
Speaker 3: to help the consumer.
32:30
Speaker 2: It seems like it's going to flood the market. I mean,
32:33
Speaker 2: I can even see, and I don't want to give
32:35
Speaker 2: anybody any ideas, but it's not implausible to generate a
32:38
Speaker 2: picture of a car, generate something that seems plausible to
32:42
Speaker 2: a layperson that's title, anything otherwise, to use a service
32:46
Speaker 2: to conduct a business transaction purely online. Hey, here's a
32:50
Speaker 2: video of my car. Here's a picture of my car.
32:52
Speaker 2: Here is me driving the car. all which can be
32:53
Speaker 2: generated now. I mean, there's so much fraud that could
32:59
Speaker 2: happen there. And now we're talking about like AI agents
33:01
Speaker 2: that can negotiate the deal for you.
33:03
Speaker 1: You could have a.
33:03
Speaker 2: Fake deal with fake people negotiating for a product that
33:07
Speaker 2: doesn't even exist. And the only thing that's real is
33:09
Speaker 2: the money you're spending.
33:11
Speaker 3: Here's something that I've often wondered. About three months ago,
33:16
Speaker 3: I signed a contract to purchase a home. I'm wanting
33:20
Speaker 3: to downsize. And the house was built in 21 or 22.
33:24
Speaker 3: It was a new house. Now, my house, I built
33:27
Speaker 3: it in 04 and 05. So I knew that my house, obviously,
33:35
Speaker 3: I've lived in it. Well, I decided to downsize, and
33:38
Speaker 3: I made an offer, and they accepted it. Well, you
33:40
Speaker 3: send a home inspector out. Because agents try to keep
33:45
Speaker 3: the buyer and seller apart for whatever reason. I don't
33:48
Speaker 3: understand that. And there was things I would like to
33:51
Speaker 3: walk through and seeing, but you have to hire an inspector. Well,
33:54
Speaker 3: you don't have to. I hired an inspector. He gave
33:58
Speaker 3: me a list of about, let's call it 10 items.
34:01
Speaker 3: There might have been 12, might have been eight, but
34:03
Speaker 3: 10 items. None of them was earth shattering, but it
34:06
Speaker 3: was a lot of things that I couldn't figure out.
34:09
Speaker 3: How in the world could a new home have this issue?
34:12
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, right. Sure.
34:14
Speaker 3: This isn't a 30-year-old home. This is a house I
34:17
Speaker 3: think was built in 21 or 22. To the point
34:23
Speaker 3: that I decided not to buy the house. Now, I'm
34:26
Speaker 3: not saying that that couldn't have followed through if I
34:30
Speaker 3: could have went and maybe looked a little closer, looked
34:32
Speaker 3: under the hood a little bit more. But I'm relying
34:35
Speaker 3: on a third party because that's what realtors make you do.
34:40
Speaker 3: And it was things like the insulation was put in
34:43
Speaker 3: upside down. Well, that's a pretty common mistake from a layperson.
34:48
Speaker 3: That's not a mistake.
34:49
Speaker 1: Right. Not a professional. You shouldn't do that.
34:51
Speaker 3: So that told me the contractor wasn't watching. He was
34:54
Speaker 3: hiring subs in there, and these subs put this insulation
34:59
Speaker 3: in upside down as to the attic space that I
35:02
Speaker 3: could see on what's under the sheetrock. And it had,
35:07
Speaker 3: where the shingle roof came down and the front porch
35:09
Speaker 3: went out, it was a metal roof, pretty rough. Well,
35:12
Speaker 3: when they drilled those self-tappers down through there, it has
35:14
Speaker 3: these little rubber washers on it, When they drilled down
35:19
Speaker 3: through there and missed the rafter, they screwed it back
35:22
Speaker 3: out of there and went over here about another inch
35:24
Speaker 3: and screwed down there, and they left all these holes remaining.
35:27
Speaker 1: That's how I did things when I was 12. Exactly. Seriously.
35:31
Speaker 3: And I'm not bashing anybody, but these were things that
35:34
Speaker 3: probably $ 10, 000 and me and my little brother in a
35:37
Speaker 3: week could fix, probably. The furnace that was under the
35:42
Speaker 3: house was sitting on the ground, not on a joist
35:46
Speaker 3: hanger and not on blocks.
35:47
Speaker 4: Wow.
35:48
Speaker 1: That's unusual.
35:49
Speaker 3: Well, I think during COVID, everything was happening, happening fast
35:54
Speaker 3: and no one was looking. And once again, we could
35:57
Speaker 3: have went under and raised it and put blocks and
35:59
Speaker 3: everything been fine. Probably the life is shortened or because
36:02
Speaker 3: you got moisture under a house and this was supposed
36:06
Speaker 3: to be in a, an encapsulated crawl system, but somehow
36:08
Speaker 3: they didn't put a humidifier in it or dehumidifier in it.
36:13
Speaker 3: They put a humidifier in it. It just, there was anyway,
36:17
Speaker 3: there was, Things that could have been fixed. Well, when
36:21
Speaker 3: someone's out looking at an automobile, there's things to look for.
36:26
Speaker 3: And you might want to do it one-on-one and not
36:29
Speaker 3: with that salesperson gleaming down on you, shoving a pen
36:33
Speaker 3: in your hand. Just slow down. Take your time. You know,
36:37
Speaker 3: I probably ought to start a service, bring them to me,
36:39
Speaker 3: and charge what these inspectors charge. But I'm old and retired.
36:43
Speaker 3: I'm not going to do it. But there's a service
36:45
Speaker 3: out there. So this is where I'm going with this story.
36:49
Speaker 3: $ 100 is $ 100 to anybody. But $ 100 could save you
36:54
Speaker 3: thousands of dollars if you take it down to your
36:56
Speaker 3: local mechanic that you have a great relationship with.
36:58
Speaker 1: That's a great point.
36:59
Speaker 3: And you let them know, hey, I'm looking at an automobile.
37:02
Speaker 3: Can I bring it in? And maybe you do like
37:04
Speaker 3: a state inspection, but we don't need a sticker. And
37:07
Speaker 3: here's $ 100. Because a state inspection is like $ 22. Nobody
37:11
Speaker 3: wants to do those unless they get work off it.
37:13
Speaker 3: But you offer a guy $ 100, 000, he's going to look,
37:15
Speaker 3: or she. And you would save a lot of heartburn
37:20
Speaker 3: in your life in your automobile purchase. And you might
37:23
Speaker 3: have to do it twice, but it will save you thousands.
37:26
Speaker 2: You know, the weird thing about that, too, is that
37:29
Speaker 2: is something that– Like we were talking about growing up.
37:32
Speaker 2: That's something that was standard. Yes.
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Speaker 1: Buying a car when I was younger.
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Speaker 2: You know, you had the mechanic you knew or your
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Speaker 2: uncle who worked with whoever it was and had them
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Speaker 2: take a once over. You know, you look at the thing.
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Speaker 2: It used to be you got tune-ups all the time.
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Speaker 2: Nobody does tune-ups anymore. But you would maybe take it
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Speaker 2: in like you were getting a tune-up or something. Hey,
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Speaker 2: tell me what's wrong with this vehicle or whatever it is.
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Speaker 2: And we just don't do much of that anymore.
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Speaker 3: I'm the type of guy that I've been out driving
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Speaker 3: automobiles that the battery has failed with me. My cars,
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Speaker 3: about every three years, get what they get. New batteries.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, right.
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Speaker 3: I don't want to be out there stuck.
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Speaker 1: That's right. That's Larry Dawson. He still buys cars. You
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Speaker 1: can get a hold of Larry. What's your phone number, Larry?
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Speaker 3: One more time.
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Speaker 2: 304-545-0211. There you go, Larry Dawson. He still buys cars,
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Speaker 2: and he comes back here every month. We've got to
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Speaker 2: get out of here today. Have a great day, everyone.
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