Latest / O'Brien & Doug / O'Brien & Doug S6:E10 [July 14, 2022 Randy Rhoads Vs. EVH]
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- 0:02SPEAKER_01: The Obron Deluxe Podcast is brought to you in part by MojarMultimedia.com.
- 0:07SPEAKER_01: KMA's music in Press Canal Maine.
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- 0:54SPEAKER_00: Because Marines are not allowed to die without permission.
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- 1:07SPEAKER_01: Now do it like you're meeting.
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- 1:18SPEAKER_01: Welcome to the O'Brien and Dog Podcast.
- 1:21SPEAKER_01: I'm O'Brien Dog and season 100 by 10.
- 1:24SPEAKER_03: Episode 10.
- 1:27SPEAKER_03: The Simplex team.
- 1:30SPEAKER_03: I think you should tell him.
- 1:33SPEAKER_03: You know, I think that would be bad.
- 1:37SPEAKER_01: Um, so yeah, uh, let's see.
- 1:40SPEAKER_01: Uh episode 10.
- 1:41SPEAKER_01: Uh, where do we start?
- 1:43SPEAKER_01: Um here we are in the fun dungeon.
- 1:45SPEAKER_01: Uh you see my new pedal board?
- 1:47SPEAKER_01: Yes, it is a mess.
- 1:48SPEAKER_01: Uh we had Thanks, man.
- 1:50SPEAKER_01: Appreciate it.
- 1:51SPEAKER_01: Actually, I'm gonna take a picture of it and send it to Jay Green.
- 1:53SPEAKER_01: He's gonna be like, Jay will be like, what?
- 1:56SPEAKER_01: He's gonna freak out.
- 1:57SPEAKER_01: What are you doing?
- 1:58SPEAKER_01: Um I came home.
- 2:00SPEAKER_01: We we had a we had a a great friend of ours uh pass away recently, uh suddenly last week.
- 2:07SPEAKER_01: Um and we had his um had his service yesterday.
- 2:11SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 2:11SPEAKER_01: Because we're recording this on a Monday, so this was a service was held yesterday, and we were part of the service.
- 2:15SPEAKER_01: He was a great friend of ours.
- 2:17SPEAKER_01: Uh tragic loss.
- 2:18SPEAKER_01: Um but he's in a better place because he's with his his love.
- 2:22SPEAKER_01: Yes.
- 2:23SPEAKER_01: Yes.
- 2:23SPEAKER_01: Yes.
- 2:23SPEAKER_01: Uh so anyway, the reason I bring that up is because I just, you know, when you go to things like that, it's draining.
- 2:31SPEAKER_01: It really is emotionally.
- 2:33SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 2:34SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 2:34SPEAKER_02: And then you gotta go out and do something that's life affirming.
- 2:38SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 2:38SPEAKER_02: You know, afterwards.
- 2:39SPEAKER_01: I don't know if I don't know if building a pedalboard is life affirming.
- 2:42SPEAKER_02: Well, but it's it's it's a passion.
- 2:44SPEAKER_01: It's a yeah, true.
- 2:45SPEAKER_01: True.
- 2:45SPEAKER_01: It's part of your passion.
- 2:46SPEAKER_01: And it's kind of it was kind of a distraction.
- 2:48SPEAKER_01: So I I I as soon as I left um the service, I of course ripped off my tie and got out of that those clothes as quickly as I could.
- 2:56SPEAKER_01: Oh, dude, that was that was a little warm.
- 2:58SPEAKER_01: It was.
- 2:59SPEAKER_02: And you already I was I was like in a shirt and jet tie and jacket.
- 3:03SPEAKER_02: But you had the full jacket and I debated.
- 3:05SPEAKER_02: And I was I I was okay until about halfway through the the service.
- 3:11SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 3:11SPEAKER_02: And then I started going, man, I'm a little warm.
- 3:14SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
- 3:14SPEAKER_02: Then about another few minutes go by, I went, man, I'm still warm.
- 3:18SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 3:19SPEAKER_02: And then by the towards the end of it, I was like, oh freaking hey.
- 3:23SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 3:23SPEAKER_01: And I debated.
- 3:25SPEAKER_01: I had a white shirt on, and normally you wear black shirts or whatever.
- 3:27SPEAKER_01: But I debated.
- 3:28SPEAKER_01: I was like, I'm gonna wear my my black jacket.
- 3:30SPEAKER_01: And then it was like I don't know, 77 degrees or something like that.
- 3:34SPEAKER_02: It was like mid-70s.
- 3:35SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so I was like, I'm gonna say I'm gonna nix the jacket.
- 3:38SPEAKER_01: So I just went like that, and then I show up and and you got the full jacket.
- 3:41SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I was dude.
- 3:42SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and then I regretted it.
- 3:44SPEAKER_01: So you you actually you were actually made the good choice, huh?
- 3:47SPEAKER_01: So I left there and uh got home and and without even talking, talking to anybody, because I think there were a couple of people here, but they were busy doing their own thing.
- 3:56SPEAKER_01: Sure.
- 3:56SPEAKER_01: I just walked downstairs and I mean you remember what my pedal board looked like before.
- 4:00SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 4:01SPEAKER_01: I and I tore it apart and I rebuilt it and added a lot of different flavors.
- 4:07SPEAKER_02: And and you're right, it is a mess, but there's a lot of Well, I just you know, you're you're just kind of you're still situation sit shit situating things.
- 4:17SPEAKER_02: Um it may not change.
- 4:19SPEAKER_02: That's fine, too, man.
- 4:20SPEAKER_02: I mean, as as long as it's easy to everything's easy to get to.
- 4:23SPEAKER_02: It is.
- 4:24SPEAKER_02: You know, so that's all that matters.
- 4:25SPEAKER_01: I've got some and it's functional.
- 4:27SPEAKER_01: I've got some upside-down pedals, but yeah, that's okay.
- 4:33SPEAKER_01: Yep.
- 4:34SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 4:34SPEAKER_01: As long as I can hit the buttons, you know, I think I'm I'm I mean, other than that, I mean that's fine, man.
- 4:39SPEAKER_02: That's good.
- 4:40SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 4:40SPEAKER_02: So I do like the new uh uh platform.
- 4:44SPEAKER_01: Yes, the the new housing, the SKB uh pedalboard.
- 4:49SPEAKER_01: So well that was interesting because uh I I don't know if we told this story or not, but I wanted to I had a pedal board that Shane had made me, actually.
- 4:56SPEAKER_01: It was a it was a homemade uh pedal board, and I had a lot of pedals on it.
- 5:01SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you did.
- 5:01SPEAKER_01: And you know, we go to the syndicate and I carried around in a in a big old-fashioned suitcase.
- 5:06SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
- 5:06SPEAKER_01: And um it was just getting cumbersome, right?
- 5:09SPEAKER_01: You have to open up the suitcase, take it out, blah, blah, blah, blah.
- 5:13SPEAKER_01: And you know, I I I'm not gonna say they made fun of me, but uh, you know, every member of the syndicate would walk by and say, That's a lot of pedals.
- 5:20SPEAKER_01: You know, I mean Do you use all those?
- 5:23SPEAKER_02: And the answer was no.
- 5:24SPEAKER_02: Well, considering Joel only has one Well he has he has a unit.
- 5:27SPEAKER_02: Yeah, his unit, but it's only one.
- 5:29SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 5:29SPEAKER_02: That's all he used.
- 5:30SPEAKER_02: Mark only has I don't even know.
- 5:32SPEAKER_01: I think he has his amp.
- 5:33SPEAKER_02: I think that's all he has.
- 5:34SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he goes directly.
- 5:35SPEAKER_02: I don't think he has a pedal aboard.
- 5:36SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 5:37SPEAKER_01: So so the answer was no, I don't use them all with the syndicate.
- 5:40SPEAKER_01: I I use more more of them with Comic Crossing.
- 5:44SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 5:45SPEAKER_01: Um, but I wanted to downsize.
- 5:47SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 5:48SPEAKER_01: So I uh bought a couple of line six stomp box modelers, they're identical, and they have all kinds of voices.
- 5:58SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but their displays are different colors.
- 6:00SPEAKER_01: That's true.
- 6:00SPEAKER_01: Well, that's because they're two different voices.
- 6:02SPEAKER_01: See, there you go.
- 6:03SPEAKER_02: That's how you tell them apart.
- 6:04SPEAKER_01: But uh they're identical, um but they do a myriad of things.
- 6:09SPEAKER_01: Sure.
- 6:09SPEAKER_01: And so I I had those and I had uh my wa pedal and anyway.
- 6:16SPEAKER_01: But on on Facebook I found this uh pedal board that was for sale that was a steel, it was an SKB pedal board, and uh on the picture it looked really cool, and I and and so it was like a hundred bucks.
- 6:29SPEAKER_01: So I called the guy, I got it, and I went to s went to buy it from him down in Holton, and then he showed it to me, and I'm like, oh, that's oh that's big.
- 6:40SPEAKER_01: Um but I but it it it I I want it.
- 6:45SPEAKER_01: So I I brought it back and I didn't downsize.
- 6:49SPEAKER_01: It's bigger than my old pedal board.
- 6:51SPEAKER_02: And well, with this though, if if I remember right, you just take the cover off and you're ready to go.
- 6:57SPEAKER_02: True.
- 6:58SPEAKER_02: So that's I mean, as far as ease of you know, you know, deployment, yep, it's a little better that way.
- 7:04SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's true.
- 7:05SPEAKER_01: And I can just plug my guitar in and plug the the pedal board itself into the amp, and yeah, and I'm good to go.
- 7:11SPEAKER_01: So it's it's helped that way.
- 7:13SPEAKER_01: And but I just you know that's one of the things that I was doing the past couple days is is building this rig.
- 7:18SPEAKER_02: Sure.
- 7:19SPEAKER_01: And um deciding whether I need to get more pedals or not.
- 7:23SPEAKER_01: You're gonna need a big book.
- 7:25SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we need a bigger boat.
- 7:26SPEAKER_02: You need a bigger board.
- 7:28SPEAKER_01: Anyway, um so that was my that was what I'm what I've been doing the past couple of days.
- 7:33SPEAKER_01: We uh uh what what what else?
- 7:36SPEAKER_01: Um oh I will tell you this, and I'm not sure if I'm proud of this or not.
- 7:41SPEAKER_01: Um so my oldest boy No number three um really wants to watch this particular show.
- 7:55SPEAKER_01: Maybe we've talked about this.
- 7:56SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we talked about Stranger Things, okay, yeah.
- 7:58SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because it's his the girl he's interested in.
- 8:01SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 8:02SPEAKER_01: Um It's always a woman.
- 8:03SPEAKER_01: It is always a woman.
- 8:04SPEAKER_02: It goes back to Eve.
- 8:05SPEAKER_02: And we're here, eat this.
- 8:07SPEAKER_02: We're here, watch this.
- 8:09SPEAKER_01: We're uh I think comparatively we're pretty strict parents.
- 8:14SPEAKER_01: You if you ask my kids if we're strict, they would say yes.
- 8:18SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know, because Well, I mean, you know, if you look at some kids out there, none of your kids have like smartphones.
- 8:26SPEAKER_02: Well Well, I mean your older kids do.
- 8:28SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Eli has one now.
- 8:29SPEAKER_01: Oh he does?
- 8:30SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
- 8:30SPEAKER_01: But he's he's getting to that age.
- 8:31SPEAKER_01: We held up for as long as we could.
- 8:33SPEAKER_02: But I mean they're not walking around with them in their, you know, they're not constantly like this.
- 8:37SPEAKER_01: Yes, Eli is.
- 8:38SPEAKER_02: So you well I know once they get them they do.
- 8:40SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 8:40SPEAKER_02: But your other, you know, up until that point, yep, they didn't, you know, really have, you know, they didn't have all that stuff.
- 8:46SPEAKER_01: I've got a I've got a seventh grader uh uh who doesn't even have a flip phone now.
- 8:50SPEAKER_01: Uh or or hasn't had one yet.
- 8:53SPEAKER_01: Uh so Eli had Eli had a flip phone uh I think probably seventh grade, eighth grade.
- 9:01SPEAKER_01: Um because I will say it does make things easier, like they have practices.
- 9:06SPEAKER_02: Well they're yeah, exactly.
- 9:07SPEAKER_02: You gotta pick them for practice.
- 9:08SPEAKER_02: They're here, they're here, yeah.
- 9:09SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but everybody did that.
- 9:10SPEAKER_01: Everybody made fun of him because of his flip phone.
- 9:12SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but it's cool, man.
- 9:14SPEAKER_01: It's indestructible.
- 9:15SPEAKER_01: I know.
- 9:15SPEAKER_01: Uh and eventually we had to Teresa had to get a new phone.
- 9:19SPEAKER_01: So she got a new phone and he got her old phone.
- 9:21SPEAKER_01: Wow, so there you go.
- 9:22SPEAKER_01: And it didn't cost like much more to put him on the plan.
- 9:26SPEAKER_01: Sure.
- 9:26SPEAKER_01: And but we have created a zombie.
- 9:29SPEAKER_01: This is what we were trying to avoid.
- 9:30SPEAKER_01: That's all he is is on his phone.
- 9:32SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 9:32SPEAKER_01: Um and so we held out as long as we could for the well, maybe not as long as we could, but uh, you know, as long as we we wanted to.
- 9:40SPEAKER_01: Uh Finn doesn't even have a flip phone yet.
- 9:42SPEAKER_01: Um he's in seventh grade.
- 9:44SPEAKER_01: All of his friends have smartphones.
- 9:45SPEAKER_01: Of course.
- 9:46SPEAKER_01: But we're holding out.
- 9:47SPEAKER_01: So if you ask them, you they would say, Yes.
- 9:50SPEAKER_01: Yes.
- 9:50SPEAKER_01: Um, you are strict.
- 9:51SPEAKER_01: You're too strict.
- 9:53SPEAKER_01: Um we won't let our kids date until they're fifteen.
- 9:55SPEAKER_01: That's what's wrong with that though.
- 9:57SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
- 9:57SPEAKER_01: That's what we that's what we say.
- 9:59SPEAKER_01: And you know, we're a we're big proponents of I'm fifty and I don't date, so I need smart.
- 10:07SPEAKER_02: You won't let me date.
- 10:11SPEAKER_02: No.
- 10:12SPEAKER_02: Doug?
- 10:12SPEAKER_02: No, no, bad, podcast.
- 10:14SPEAKER_02: Bad Doug.
- 10:15SPEAKER_02: You play drums, you play the congas, you sing, and you do a podcast.
- 10:20SPEAKER_02: That's it.
- 10:21SPEAKER_01: Now get in the fun dungeon.
- 10:22SPEAKER_02: Get the fun dungeon and shut up.
- 10:24SPEAKER_02: Be funny.
- 10:27SPEAKER_01: Oh yes, Dad.
- 10:29SPEAKER_01: If only you were kidding.
- 10:37SPEAKER_01: I need an adult.
- 10:41SPEAKER_01: So we're also big believers that uh what you what you uh ingest uh has an effect on you.
- 10:51SPEAKER_01: Sure.
- 10:51SPEAKER_01: Whether it's health and you know, I mean I mean I'm not talking about food or anything like that.
- 10:55SPEAKER_01: Well, I am, you know, we're we try and keep our kids away from sugar but as much as possible, but you know, it's not always successful.
- 11:03SPEAKER_01: Um me, on the other hand, I we're still working on that.
- 11:08SPEAKER_01: Um, but uh as far as like content, you know, I mean you you watch porn, you're gonna look at women in a different way.
- 11:17SPEAKER_02: What was that what was that saying that computer programming saying back in the 80s garbage in, garbage out?
- 11:24SPEAKER_02: Right, exactly.
- 11:25SPEAKER_01: You know, and and you know, my wife, and I will say this, and I think she will agree because I drive her crazy sometimes, um, she is um more strict than I am as far as what they watch.
- 11:42SPEAKER_01: Sure.
- 11:43SPEAKER_01: Um Eli is 14 and he just started watching PG-13 movies not too long ago.
- 11:50SPEAKER_01: Um he's now watched most of the Marvel movies, actually not all of them, I think, but he's um and you know we we try and keep them away from uh violence as much as possible.
- 12:00SPEAKER_01: Sure.
- 12:01SPEAKER_01: Um and so this uh Stranger Things um that Eli wants to watch, um we've only seen well, we had only seen um the uh trailers and read things about it.
- 12:20SPEAKER_02: Whoa, what is this?
- 12:22SPEAKER_01: Uh so I felt the need to preview it.
- 12:26SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 12:27SPEAKER_01: Um friggin' A Doug.
- 12:30SPEAKER_01: I'm on episode eight.
- 12:32SPEAKER_01: Oh, so you're already binging it.
- 12:33SPEAKER_01: I'm hooked.
- 12:34SPEAKER_01: Really?
- 12:35SPEAKER_01: I am hooked on it.
- 12:37SPEAKER_01: Did you go like season one?
- 12:39SPEAKER_01: Episode eight, season one, season one.
- 12:40SPEAKER_01: Gotcha.
- 12:41SPEAKER_01: Um it's only on Netflix, right?
- 12:44SPEAKER_01: It's only on Netflix.
- 12:46SPEAKER_01: Do you have Netflix?
- 12:47SPEAKER_01: I got rid of it.
- 12:48SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 12:48SPEAKER_01: Good for you.
- 12:49SPEAKER_01: Um this is obviously the theme song.
- 12:53SPEAKER_01: I will tell you.
- 12:57SPEAKER_01: It is really, really well done.
- 12:59SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 13:00SPEAKER_01: Um or m if if it's not well done, it's just I w I want to see what happens.
- 13:07SPEAKER_01: Sure.
- 13:07SPEAKER_01: So I have to watch the next one.
- 13:09SPEAKER_01: You know, to see the because the story continues, obviously.
- 13:12SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 13:13SPEAKER_02: See, that's how I felt about X Files back in the 90s.
- 13:15SPEAKER_02: Well, right.
- 13:15SPEAKER_02: You know, in a moment.
- 13:16SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 13:16SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 13:17SPEAKER_01: That was the same way.
- 13:18SPEAKER_01: So uh was it one continuous thing or were they different?
- 13:21SPEAKER_01: No, there was different things, but there was an overarching arc, story arc.
- 13:25SPEAKER_01: This is one continuous thing.
- 13:26SPEAKER_01: Is it really?
- 13:26SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 13:27SPEAKER_01: Yes.
- 13:27SPEAKER_01: Um so it was almost like a soap opera type.
- 13:29SPEAKER_01: Gotcha.
- 13:30SPEAKER_01: Sci science fiction soap opera.
- 13:31SPEAKER_01: Sure.
- 13:31SPEAKER_01: Now it's uh I don't think I'm giving away any spoilers.
- 13:35SPEAKER_01: Uh there's monsters involved.
- 13:36SPEAKER_01: I haven't really gotten to that point yet, because my s my oldest boy, he's thinks it's really funny that I I I went to watch episode one to see if maybe my maybe Eli could watch it.
- 13:47SPEAKER_01: Of course, there's a lot of language uh i in it that yeah.
- 13:51SPEAKER_01: He's 14, he hears worse at school.
- 13:53SPEAKER_01: Oh, I'm sure yeah.
- 13:54SPEAKER_01: This is where this is where my wife and I are like, you know, right opposites.
- 13:58SPEAKER_01: Because I'm like, he could probably watch it.
- 14:00SPEAKER_01: I mean, he hears worse things at school, and she says, that doesn't mean he has to hear them at home.
- 14:05SPEAKER_01: She's got a point.
- 14:06SPEAKER_01: She does have a point.
- 14:07SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 14:07SPEAKER_01: Um, and you know, garbage in, garbage out.
- 14:10SPEAKER_01: You hear that stuff, you're gonna end up talking like that.
- 14:13SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
- 14:14SPEAKER_01: I mean, unless you really are um, you know, got really good I don't know what what the word I'm looking for.
- 14:22SPEAKER_01: Self-control.
- 14:23SPEAKER_01: Self-control, thank you.
- 14:24SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 14:25SPEAKER_01: Um so I watched the first episode, and I'm like, well, I gotta find out what happens.
- 14:33SPEAKER_01: Of course.
- 14:34SPEAKER_01: So I should watch episode two just to make sure I wanna see, I wanna see what you know whether they find that, you know.
- 14:41SPEAKER_01: And I so I watched episode two, and then I watched episode three, and then I said I gotta go to bed.
- 14:47SPEAKER_01: So I went to bed.
- 14:48SPEAKER_01: I and I got up the next morning.
- 14:49SPEAKER_01: I'm like, I wanna watch episode four.
- 14:53SPEAKER_01: So I did.
- 14:54SPEAKER_01: You know, my kids aren't around, you know.
- 14:56SPEAKER_01: And uh so I finished episode five and I say to my wife, would you would you just watch episode one with me?
- 15:07SPEAKER_01: I just I just it's really good.
- 15:09SPEAKER_01: I just you know, and she's like, no, I'm not, you know, that's evil.
- 15:12SPEAKER_01: I'm not watching that that that stuff.
- 15:14SPEAKER_01: And I said, it's just it's fiction, dear, it's science fiction, it's just you know, no, I'm not no, I'm not watching that.
- 15:20SPEAKER_01: And and our boys aren't watching it either.
- 15:22SPEAKER_01: And I'm like thinking to myself, Well, what I've seen so far, they could watch.
- 15:29SPEAKER_01: Um and my oldest boy, uh, Jude, uh, he's been watching like the latest season.
- 15:35SPEAKER_01: And he said, it gets scarier.
- 15:38SPEAKER_01: I'm sure yeah.
- 15:39SPEAKER_01: As as the as the series goes on, it gets scarier.
- 15:42SPEAKER_01: And there's like um monsters and gore and stuff like that.
- 15:48SPEAKER_01: It says it it says on the thing, uh, like on the first episodes that I've seen that there there's gore, and there really isn't.
- 15:55SPEAKER_02: So uh I don't know if that's just a well it's probably just a disclaimer for you know what's coming.
- 15:59SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 16:00SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 16:01SPEAKER_01: So um but it w you know these kids that are acting, of course the acting's not fantastic, but it's it's well they are kids.
- 16:09SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 16:10SPEAKER_01: It's okay.
- 16:11SPEAKER_01: Um but now they're they must be I would think I would think that they were probably twelve or thirteen when they started.
- 16:17SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm sure they're like late teens, yeah, early twenties by now.
- 16:21SPEAKER_01: Something something like that.
- 16:22SPEAKER_01: But and I I just I I'm I'm still it's really sad that I can't wait for bedtime so that I can watch a couple of episodes.
- 16:34SPEAKER_01: It really I know it's a sad situation, but I I I love it.
- 16:39SPEAKER_01: Yeah, there are worse things out there to be watching, my friend.
- 16:41SPEAKER_01: Well, I'm sure.
- 16:42SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 16:42SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm sure.
- 16:43SPEAKER_02: The Kardashians are still on.
- 16:44SPEAKER_02: So I mean, you know, you could be hooked on that, and I would like have to drop QQ in your spleen.
- 16:49SPEAKER_01: Speaking of stranger things.
- 16:50SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 16:51SPEAKER_01: Uh no, uh the Kardashians.
- 16:53SPEAKER_01: Um so uh it's it it's just and it's based in the eighties.
- 16:59SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 17:00SPEAKER_01: So everything is like maybe that's why I like it so much, is because it's retro and it's uh 80s music and it's 80s fashion.
- 17:08SPEAKER_01: Reminiscent of our glory days.
- 17:11SPEAKER_01: But it is well done.
- 17:12SPEAKER_01: It is well written.
- 17:14SPEAKER_01: Um and you just want to find out what happens to these characters and and and so on.
- 17:19SPEAKER_01: And you know, all my I shouldn't say all, there's a bunch of when I was um uh working in the elementary school, uh there's a bunch of kids third through fifth grade wearing stranger things shirts.
- 17:30SPEAKER_01: They love this show, and I'm like, you should be watching this.
- 17:34SPEAKER_02: You know?
- 17:35SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but that's that's part of society.
- 17:38SPEAKER_02: I know.
- 17:38SPEAKER_02: You know.
- 17:39SPEAKER_01: I know.
- 17:39SPEAKER_01: But I don't know.
- 17:41SPEAKER_01: I j I I just wanted you to to know that I'm um weak.
- 17:45SPEAKER_01: You're hooked.
- 17:45SPEAKER_01: I'm hooked.
- 17:46SPEAKER_01: Um I'm not ashamed of it.
- 17:49SPEAKER_01: Um no shame.
- 17:50SPEAKER_01: I mean, if it's a good show, why not?
- 17:52SPEAKER_01: I think it's a great show.
- 17:53SPEAKER_01: You're an adult, you can do what you want.
- 17:54SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and uh you know, here's the thing.
- 17:56SPEAKER_01: I would put money that if my wife watched episode one, season one, episode one, she would want to watch season one, episode two.
- 18:07SPEAKER_01: I would I would put money on that.
- 18:08SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 18:09SPEAKER_01: Uh but she is just going to be stubborn and not watch episode one.
- 18:15SPEAKER_01: Do you ever yeah you ever like so like when we had when we went to Top Gun, okay?
- 18:24SPEAKER_01: I had already seen it.
- 18:25SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 18:26SPEAKER_01: You guys hadn't.
- 18:27SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 18:28SPEAKER_01: And have you ever been in that situation where you want to like you want someone to experience this the way you experienced it.
- 18:40SPEAKER_01: And either they did or they didn't.
- 18:42SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 18:42SPEAKER_01: And so you're either What do you mean you didn't like it?
- 18:45SPEAKER_01: Or wasn't that great?
- 18:47SPEAKER_01: You know, that type of thing.
- 18:48SPEAKER_01: You ever been in that situation?
- 18:49SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, when I made everybody watch uh Boondock Saints.
- 18:52SPEAKER_02: I haven't even seen that movie yet.
- 18:53SPEAKER_02: See?
- 18:53SPEAKER_02: Yes, you have.
- 18:54SPEAKER_02: Have I?
- 18:54SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 18:55SPEAKER_02: Wait, did you?
- 18:56SPEAKER_02: No.
- 18:56SPEAKER_02: No, yeah.
- 18:57SPEAKER_01: I didn't.
- 18:57SPEAKER_01: I've seen scenes from it.
- 18:58SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 18:59SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but I haven't I haven't said when I went through, when I when I discovered Boondock Saints, I was like, everybody must watch this movie.
- 19:05SPEAKER_02: So anytime I went someplace, I would be like, you gotta watch this movie.
- 19:08SPEAKER_02: So you know.
- 19:09SPEAKER_02: And most people liked it, but some people were like, meh, you know.
- 19:12SPEAKER_01: I'm not sure why I haven't hadn't seen it yet.
- 19:14SPEAKER_02: I was about to say, you were you were with us when we went to Vermont to see Big Head Todd, but then I remembered, no, you weren't.
- 19:20SPEAKER_02: You weren't with us that trip because I brought it with me and made them watch it.
- 19:24SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 19:24SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, I went to see Big Head Todd at Sugarloaf.
- 19:27SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
- 19:27SPEAKER_02: You didn't go to Vermont with us to see them.
- 19:29SPEAKER_01: So right.
- 19:30SPEAKER_01: That was the one with the samples.
- 19:31SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 19:32SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 19:32SPEAKER_02: And I got the C I I caught the C D out of midair.
- 19:35SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 19:35SPEAKER_02: He was throwing the the lead singer was throwing CDs out.
- 19:38SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 19:39SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that would have been a cool show to see.
- 19:40SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was fun.
- 19:41SPEAKER_02: They're a good band, by the way.
- 19:42SPEAKER_01: The samples?
- 19:43SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 19:43SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
- 19:44SPEAKER_01: Very good band.
- 19:44SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
- 19:44SPEAKER_01: Bighead taught too.
- 19:45SPEAKER_01: Oh, absolutely.
- 19:46SPEAKER_01: Blues Traveler's there, too.
- 19:48SPEAKER_01: Um you know, Blues Traveler for me, I think I've said this to you.
- 19:52SPEAKER_01: Uh awesome band.
- 19:54SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 19:54SPEAKER_01: Uh John Popper, and I love Harmonica.
- 19:57SPEAKER_01: John Popper killed the harmonica for me.
- 19:59SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was too much harmonica.
- 20:01SPEAKER_01: It was too much.
- 20:01SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 20:02SPEAKER_01: Um, he's amazing.
- 20:03SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, absolutely.
- 20:04SPEAKER_01: Don't get me wrong, but uh, he just, you know, I can only listen to so much Blues Traveler because of that harmonica.
- 20:09SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was like when we uh saw them down in Bangor with big uh Bare Naked Ladies and Cracker and um who else was there?
- 20:16SPEAKER_01: Bare Naked Ladies, Cracker, uh Blues Traveler, Blues Traveler, Big Head Todd.
- 20:21SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, Big Head Todd.
- 20:22SPEAKER_02: How do you forget Big Head Todd?
- 20:24SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 20:24SPEAKER_01: That's because Ed came out stripped.
- 20:26SPEAKER_01: I know that's what I was gonna say.
- 20:28SPEAKER_02: How did I forget that?
- 20:29SPEAKER_02: Oh, maybe I tried to block that out of my memory.
- 20:31SPEAKER_02: That's what that was what it was.
- 20:33SPEAKER_02: Uh it was because Big Head Todd did a cover of uh Yeah, they did a cover of something.
- 20:38SPEAKER_02: I'm sexy and I know it.
- 20:40SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm sexy and I know it, and Ed came out and like was a thong.
- 20:44SPEAKER_01: It was disturbing.
- 20:45SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was disturbing.
- 20:46SPEAKER_02: Funny but disturbing.
- 20:46SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 20:47SPEAKER_02: So exactly.
- 20:47SPEAKER_02: But we were all cheering them on.
- 20:49SPEAKER_02: We were.
- 20:50SPEAKER_02: It was great.
- 20:51SPEAKER_01: Anyway, uh uh speaking of um were we speaking of people.
- 20:56SPEAKER_01: Speaking of thongs.
- 20:57SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 20:58SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
- 20:59SPEAKER_01: That's a good segue.
- 21:00SPEAKER_01: Speaking of speaking of thongs, this is gonna break your heart.
- 21:03SPEAKER_01: Oh.
- 21:04SPEAKER_01: Uh Alice Cooper guitarist Nita Strauss has announced that she's leaving Alice Cooper's band.
- 21:11SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, I knew that.
- 21:11SPEAKER_01: You did?
- 21:12SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 21:12SPEAKER_02: I follow her on Instagram.
- 21:14SPEAKER_02: Oh.
- 21:16SPEAKER_01: Screw you then.
- 21:18SPEAKER_01: I love Nita Strauss.
- 21:19SPEAKER_01: Hold on, hold on a second.
- 21:20SPEAKER_01: Just think of that for a second.
- 21:21SPEAKER_01: Nita Strauss?
- 21:23SPEAKER_01: Tongs.
- 21:24SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 21:25SPEAKER_01: Uh moving on.
- 21:26SPEAKER_01: I'm sure she could pull it off.
- 21:27SPEAKER_01: But she has said that and she's also cancelled her solo gigs.
- 21:31SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 21:32SPEAKER_01: Uh but she said that there is something coming.
- 21:36SPEAKER_01: So she's going to make an announcement eventually.
- 21:38SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 21:39SPEAKER_01: Uh I'm not sure.
- 21:40SPEAKER_01: She's not pregnant, she said.
- 21:41SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 21:42SPEAKER_02: Well, she did have some knee trouble earlier.
- 21:44SPEAKER_02: Oh earlier in the year.
- 21:45SPEAKER_02: She has some knee trouble.
- 21:46SPEAKER_01: But she said what uh I'm looking at this here.
- 21:50SPEAKER_01: Um there's no drama whatsoever, and my touring year is still very full.
- 21:55SPEAKER_01: In fact, I'm on a flight straight into the next adventure as I post.
- 22:00SPEAKER_01: This and I'll be on stage again much sooner than you think.
- 22:03SPEAKER_01: But that's news for another day.
- 22:05SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 22:06SPEAKER_01: So she's playing with someone else or hard to say, man.
- 22:11SPEAKER_01: Because I mean if she cancel her solo shows.
- 22:13SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so it's gotta be somebody else.
- 22:15SPEAKER_02: But who?
- 22:15SPEAKER_02: Yeah, exactly.
- 22:17SPEAKER_02: That's the big mystery.
- 22:18SPEAKER_02: But whoever she's playing with, man, they're lucky because she's she's amazing.
- 22:22SPEAKER_01: She is amazing, dude.
- 22:22SPEAKER_01: Yep, she is amazing.
- 22:23SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 22:24SPEAKER_02: So great, good for her.
- 22:25SPEAKER_02: I mean, but uh that that's Alice's thing.
- 22:27SPEAKER_02: He likes he likes it when they uh when his band, you know, they go off on their own.
- 22:31SPEAKER_01: Look at Kip Winger.
- 22:32SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Kip Winger.
- 22:33SPEAKER_02: I mean uh uh the Jason Hook from uh you know when he went off the five finger death punch and I mean he doesn't mind, man.
- 22:40SPEAKER_02: He's like, hey, you know, you know, go for it, man.
- 22:44SPEAKER_02: That's just how Alice Cooper is with his band.
- 22:46SPEAKER_02: I mean, you know, he'll find somebody else.
- 22:48SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 22:48SPEAKER_02: There's no doubt about that.
- 22:50SPEAKER_02: Yep.
- 22:50SPEAKER_01: So um yeah, I have no I have no doubt that Alice Cooper will be just fine.
- 22:55SPEAKER_02: He'll be okay.
- 22:57SPEAKER_01: Um the other piece of news is I don't know if you've heard this or not.
- 23:02SPEAKER_01: Um see if you can guess.
- 23:08SPEAKER_01: It's a piano.
- 23:09SPEAKER_01: Yes, it is a piano.
- 23:11SPEAKER_01: Good job! Hey, this is this is a guy who creates art.
- 23:19SPEAKER_01: Uh, no matter where he is.
- 23:21SPEAKER_01: He's a painter, he's a songwriter, he's a singer, and then he is beholden to nobody at this point.
- 23:31SPEAKER_01: There's no record company, there's no nothing.
- 23:34SPEAKER_01: So tell me who this is from the mill to the barbecue.
- 23:54SPEAKER_05: He came through from the classroom to the tomb.
- 24:02SPEAKER_05: Go back to back.
- 24:15SPEAKER_05: I don't know if we're called Pointing at the Moon.
- 24:41SPEAKER_01: David Lee Roth.
- 24:43SPEAKER_02: That's David Lee Roth?
- 24:44SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 24:45SPEAKER_10: Wow.
- 24:46SPEAKER_01: Right?
- 24:47SPEAKER_01: He released the track without any fanfare, without any press release, just released the track, pointing at the moon.
- 24:54SPEAKER_01: Uh he's sounds pretty good, man.
- 24:56SPEAKER_01: For I mean, for what he's been doing lately, yeah.
- 24:59SPEAKER_01: It fits.
- 25:00SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 25:01SPEAKER_02: It sounds great, man.
- 25:02SPEAKER_01: Um, it's the first new music he's released since pairing five previously unreleased songs with a web comic named The Roth Project in November of 2020.
- 25:13SPEAKER_01: I know that uh he did some stuff with John Five, the guitarist.
- 25:16SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 25:16SPEAKER_01: Uh and and John Five said there's a song called Nothing Could Have Stopped Us.
- 25:25SPEAKER_01: The song is so great, and I just literally will beg Dave and Dave's team to release this song because it's about Van Halen, and it's so good.
- 25:32SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's so effing good, and I just wish he would release it.
- 25:36SPEAKER_01: So it's just a different sound for I I think that's why I didn't recognize him.
- 25:48SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, just it didn't sound anything, not what I expect from Diamond Dave, you know.
- 25:53SPEAKER_01: And I, you know, his lyrics on um a different uh kind of truth, the last Van Halen album, were amazing.
- 26:01SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they were pretty great.
- 26:02SPEAKER_01: If you if you if you if you pay attention to what he's saying in those songs, uh which most people didn't because they paid attention to Eddie.
- 26:09SPEAKER_01: Oh, of course, yeah.
- 26:10SPEAKER_01: His lyric writing is really, really good.
- 26:12SPEAKER_01: It's come a long way since the early days.
- 26:14SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 26:16SPEAKER_01: Um when he's trying to be Vegas and Mr.
- 26:21SPEAKER_01: Showman, it I tire of that.
- 26:24SPEAKER_01: Sure.
- 26:24SPEAKER_01: I can get used to this.
- 26:25SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's nice.
- 26:27SPEAKER_01: It's not uh you know, Panama.
- 26:31SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 26:31SPEAKER_01: But it's it's good.
- 26:33SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 26:33SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 26:34SPEAKER_01: I agree.
- 26:35SPEAKER_01: Um so that's called pointing at the moon.
- 26:39SPEAKER_01: And he uh, you know, he was gonna do a Vegas residency, but then um because of COVID, it got postponed and then he just pulled the plug on the whole thing.
- 26:48SPEAKER_01: Sure.
- 26:48SPEAKER_01: So um he goes, It's not about me anymore.
- 26:52SPEAKER_01: When the benefits for Kentucky, Colorado, and FarmAid kick in, call me.
- 26:58SPEAKER_01: That's a bit that's a raw thing.
- 27:00SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, yeah.
- 27:01SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 27:02SPEAKER_01: So I just wanted to share that because I thought that that came out uh yesterday, I think.
- 27:06SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's that's really nice.
- 27:07SPEAKER_02: I didn't hear anything about that.
- 27:08SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
- 27:09SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 27:09SPEAKER_01: So that's good, man.
- 27:10SPEAKER_01: I don't know whether he's got a bigger project coming.
- 27:13SPEAKER_02: And I did hear that uh Wolfgang's getting married.
- 27:15SPEAKER_02: Yes.
- 27:16SPEAKER_02: So she's yes, she said yes.
- 27:17SPEAKER_02: Yep.
- 27:18SPEAKER_02: So I thought that was pretty great.
- 27:19SPEAKER_01: Um and he's working on a new album.
- 27:22SPEAKER_01: New album, which will hopefully take not as long as the first album.
- 27:26SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but which I don't think it would be.
- 27:28SPEAKER_02: I don't think so.
- 27:28SPEAKER_02: I think he's got it.
- 27:29SPEAKER_01: He took his time on that because he was helping his dad.
- 27:31SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 27:32SPEAKER_01: He was dealing with his dad and stuff.
- 27:33SPEAKER_02: So speaking of Van Halen.
- 27:35SPEAKER_02: Were we?
- 27:36SPEAKER_02: So I I have a I have a what if a what if situation for you.
- 27:41SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 27:42SPEAKER_02: So last week I was listening to the radio and uh a song came on that I've heard, you know, a hundred times.
- 27:48SPEAKER_02: Mr.
- 27:49SPEAKER_02: Crowley.
- 27:50SPEAKER_01: Ooh, yeah.
- 27:50SPEAKER_01: Ozzy.
- 27:51SPEAKER_01: Ozzy, yeah.
- 27:52SPEAKER_01: Randy Rhodes.
- 27:53SPEAKER_02: And Randy Rhodes.
- 27:53SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 27:54SPEAKER_02: So I you know, I'll you know, and I've heard this song.
- 27:56SPEAKER_02: I mean, like I said, I've heard this song, but I for some reason I really I really zeroed in on it and literally listened to it for sure, whatever for whatever I was doing.
- 28:04SPEAKER_02: I was really concentrated.
- 28:06SPEAKER_02: And the guitar work, the solos on it, yeah were amazing.
- 28:10SPEAKER_02: And I never really realized that.
- 28:12SPEAKER_02: Because it's a good song.
- 28:13SPEAKER_02: I like it.
- 28:13SPEAKER_02: I like I like the song.
- 28:15SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 28:15SPEAKER_02: But I never realized how intricate in the uh the soloing was in it.
- 28:20SPEAKER_02: So then I got to thinking.
- 28:22SPEAKER_02: I was playing that in the background.
- 28:23SPEAKER_02: Well, yeah, about say first minute is this anyway.
- 28:26SPEAKER_02: Um but I was like, man.
- 28:30SPEAKER_02: So that you know, and I realized that I didn't really know a whole lot about Randy Rhodes.
- 28:35SPEAKER_01: Yep.
- 28:35SPEAKER_02: So I found a documentary on Randy Rhodes.
- 28:38SPEAKER_02: So I watched that.
- 28:40SPEAKER_02: And I didn't realize that he and Eddie Van Halen were kind of they were contemporaries, but they were also kind of rivals at the same time.
- 28:49SPEAKER_02: So like Randy was teaching guitar lessons, but this was at that time in the late, you know, the mid, he was with Quiet Riot at this point, yep.
- 28:58SPEAKER_02: Trying to break through, and you know, and you know, they weren't getting a record deal, and Van Halen was getting the record deals, and right, you know, and and his guitar students were coming in and saying, Hey, can you teach me how to play like Eddie Van Halen?
- 29:10SPEAKER_02: And God love him, he did.
- 29:13SPEAKER_02: He would learn, they would like uh in this documentary, they had they had uh uh recordings of him playing Van Halen songs.
- 29:22SPEAKER_02: Wow.
- 29:23SPEAKER_02: It was really cool, like on fire, he was playing, you know, and stuff like that.
- 29:26SPEAKER_02: Do you remember the name of the documentary?
- 29:28SPEAKER_02: Uh Randy Rhodes something, a legend, a guitar legend, something it was it's on uh Amazon.
- 29:33SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 29:34SPEAKER_02: And uh so I was like, so I got to thinking.
- 29:38SPEAKER_02: I was like, you know, because he really came into his own when he joined with Ozzy.
- 29:44SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
- 29:45SPEAKER_02: Yep.
- 29:45SPEAKER_01: You know, a lot of people forget that he was with Quiet Riot.
- 29:49SPEAKER_01: Because he founded Quiet Riot.
- 29:50SPEAKER_02: He founded Quiet Riot with his friends.
- 29:52SPEAKER_02: With Kevin DeBrow and Kevin DeBrow and uh Kelly can't think of his name.
- 29:57SPEAKER_01: Uh Mickey, not Mickey.
- 29:59SPEAKER_02: No, Kelly, uh it was Kelly was on the bass, and uh what was his name on drums?
- 30:03SPEAKER_02: Devon?
- 30:04SPEAKER_01: No, it was uh um shoot.
- 30:07SPEAKER_01: The original drum yeah, the oh the it was the original drummer.
- 30:10SPEAKER_01: Oh, I don't know who the original drummer was.
- 30:11SPEAKER_02: His name was Devon or something like that.
- 30:13SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 30:14SPEAKER_02: Anyway, but anyway, so you know, so he was kind of stuck, you know.
- 30:18SPEAKER_02: Then he left Quiet Riot, joined, you know, Ozzy got fired by Black Sabbath, and you know, he found Randy Rhodes, and you know, history was made.
- 30:27SPEAKER_02: So I got to thinking, I was like, you know, and then of course he died like two, three years later, you know, after the uh Diary of a Madman album.
- 30:36SPEAKER_02: They were on tour for that Blizzard of Oz and Diary of a Madman.
- 30:39SPEAKER_02: I mean, listen to this dude.
- 31:04SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 31:05SPEAKER_01: Unbelievable.
- 31:06SPEAKER_01: Right?
- 31:08SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
- 31:09SPEAKER_02: But anyway, um, so where was I going with?
- 31:11SPEAKER_02: Anyway, so I got to thinking, you know, of course, you know, he recorded, he was what, 22, 23 when he recorded this?
- 31:17SPEAKER_02: Something like that, yep.
- 31:18SPEAKER_02: Okay, what was Eddie doing at the time?
- 31:20SPEAKER_02: Well, I mean, what were the songs Eddie was doing at this time?
- 31:23SPEAKER_02: And I got thinking, I was like, what if what if Randy Rhodes hadn't died?
- 31:29SPEAKER_02: Would he be a bigger guitar virtuoso than Eddie?
- 31:34SPEAKER_02: Would would they have, you know, I'm sure they would have stayed pretty equally, but I think I almost think Randy would have been was more musical.
- 31:43SPEAKER_01: Randy was, yeah, Randy was doing classical guitar.
- 31:45SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 31:46SPEAKER_01: Uh Eddie is Eddie.
- 31:47SPEAKER_02: Eddie's Eddie, you know.
- 31:48SPEAKER_02: And Randy was like always taking, always learning.
- 31:51SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 31:52SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
- 31:52SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 31:53SPEAKER_02: Like this, this, like this outro, man.
- 31:55SPEAKER_02: This is this is that that's classical, dude.
- 32:37SPEAKER_01: That's so classical, yeah.
- 32:39SPEAKER_02: But it rocked.
- 32:40SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
- 32:41SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
- 32:42SPEAKER_02: So I mean, I was like, at the same time period, this was what, 1979, 1980, right?
- 32:48SPEAKER_01: Something like that, yeah.
- 32:49SPEAKER_02: What was Eddie doing at that time?
- 32:51SPEAKER_02: Was that van that was the Van Halen 2 era, right?
- 32:54SPEAKER_01: 80 was Van Halen 2, I believe.
- 32:57SPEAKER_01: Uh I'll find out for sure here while we're talking.
- 32:59SPEAKER_01: But yeah.
- 33:00SPEAKER_01: Um, so you're saying, like, what if Yeah, what if Randy hadn't died?
- 33:04SPEAKER_02: Would would I mean, you know, would he have surpassed Eddie musically as a virtuoso?
- 33:10SPEAKER_02: I mean, would they have stayed, you know, competitive?
- 33:13SPEAKER_02: Or would they just, you know, you know, stayed competitive and tried to outdo each other?
- 33:17SPEAKER_07: Right.
- 33:18SPEAKER_02: Because I think they were the you know, as far as the eighties were concerned, you know, Eddie was Eddie was king.
- 33:25SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 33:26SPEAKER_02: You know?
- 33:26SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 33:27SPEAKER_01: 1980.
- 33:29SPEAKER_01: 1980 it was women and children.
- 33:31SPEAKER_01: Oh, women and children first.
- 33:32SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 33:32SPEAKER_01: Uh Van Halen too was 79.
- 33:34SPEAKER_01: So that's I mean, you think like Unchained.
- 33:37SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 33:38SPEAKER_02: Um Romeo's Delight.
- 33:41SPEAKER_02: Uh Tora Tora Torah.
- 33:42SPEAKER_02: Yep.
- 33:42SPEAKER_02: You know, stuff like that, what he was doing.
- 33:45SPEAKER_01: Um just realized that um Van Halen released an album a year all the way up until it was like 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, and then they took a break and then released 1984.
- 34:02SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 34:03SPEAKER_01: I was I'm heard of.
- 34:04SPEAKER_02: Because of course Well, but but Blizzard of Oz and Dire of a Mad Men were almost like within months of each other, weren't they?
- 34:12SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
- 34:13SPEAKER_01: I'm going to find out right now.
- 34:15SPEAKER_01: Um so the question is would would he It's a what if, you know.
- 34:22SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 34:23SPEAKER_01: And we've had these before, right?
- 34:24SPEAKER_01: You've asked these types of things before.
- 34:27SPEAKER_02: Um I think my last one was if Patty Smythe had joined uh Van Halen.
- 34:33SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
- 34:33SPEAKER_02: Oh, it's another Van Halen one.
- 34:34SPEAKER_02: Hey, what about?
- 34:36SPEAKER_01: Uh Blizzard of Oz was 1980, Diary of Man Mad Men was 81.
- 34:40SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 34:40SPEAKER_01: So they were pretty close.
- 34:41SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 34:41SPEAKER_01: And then 82 that he he took off, obviously, because that's when Randy was killed, right?
- 34:45SPEAKER_02: He died in 82.
- 34:45SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 34:46SPEAKER_02: So they were on tour for those two albums.
- 34:48SPEAKER_02: Those were the only two albums that Randy was on.
- 34:50SPEAKER_01: He died in 82, and then Bark of the Moon came out in 83.
- 34:54SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 34:54SPEAKER_01: Wow.
- 34:56SPEAKER_01: Um I have I kind of think Because and I don't know much about Randy either.
- 35:05SPEAKER_01: I mean, I love Randy's guitar playing, and but I I I haven't seen that documentary.
- 35:09SPEAKER_02: It's really good.
- 35:09SPEAKER_02: It's really good.
- 35:10SPEAKER_01: I'd like to see it.
- 35:11SPEAKER_01: Um but everything I've read about Randy and everything, you know, I've seen like interviews and people talk about Randy Rhodes, or I've read interviews where they talk about Randy Rhodes, he's a quiet guy.
- 35:21SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he was.
- 35:22SPEAKER_02: Um He was a little tiny guy, you know.
- 35:25SPEAKER_02: A little bit I don't think he had a Napoleon clamp complex, but he was just a tiny guy, but he had this huge guitar sound, right?
- 35:32SPEAKER_01: But I also think that and the fact that he actually taught people those at Van Halen songs because they requested it.
- 35:42SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 35:42SPEAKER_02: Well his par both his parents were music teachers.
- 35:44SPEAKER_02: Well, I I think so.
- 35:46SPEAKER_01: I mean I I picture Randy Rhodes as being the type of guy that you know doesn't like you know, I am not the greatest, you know, uh, you know, just I'm playing my guitar, that's all I do is play guitar.
- 36:02SPEAKER_01: Uh humble.
- 36:03SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
- 36:03SPEAKER_02: Well, it's funny because uh they they talked to Ozzie, of course, in this documentary, and Ozzie was saying that you know, when they went on tour, other band, you know, people from other bands would come up and say, Hey, how do you do this?
- 36:13SPEAKER_02: And he would show them right how to you know how he was doing stuff.
- 36:16SPEAKER_02: I mean, because it wasn't like he's a he's a teacher.
- 36:18SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
- 36:19SPEAKER_02: It wasn't like because remember when Eddie was, you know, developing finger tapping, he would turn his back to the audience.
- 36:24SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 36:24SPEAKER_02: Yeah Randy never did that.
- 36:26SPEAKER_02: He he he you know, he was out everything he did, it was out there, and he would show if you asked him, he would show you.
- 36:33SPEAKER_02: He didn't care.
- 36:34SPEAKER_01: So here's the thing, here here's my theory, or or my you know, what I what I think would be what it would be like if Randy was still alive.
- 36:44SPEAKER_01: The whole comparison uh to Eddie and other guitar players um that are shredders or virtuosos or whatever would get old for him.
- 36:54SPEAKER_01: So he would do what a veto brata.
- 36:56SPEAKER_01: He'd just disappeared.
- 36:58SPEAKER_01: He'd he'd duck out, he'd teach guitar, he'd teach classical guitar, he'd release a classical album, maybe.
- 37:05SPEAKER_01: You know?
- 37:06SPEAKER_01: I think I think because and I and again, I don't know uh a a lot about him, but I I picture him as a humble guy that doesn't want doesn't care about all the hubbub and probably didn't even like the music business that he would he would back away and and do his own thing or or just teach.
- 37:26SPEAKER_01: You know, um because I I don't know.
- 37:30SPEAKER_01: And I don't know why I get that vibe.
- 37:32SPEAKER_02: But it's probably probably pretty close.
- 37:34SPEAKER_01: Because I mean the what um he he loved he did like classical pieces, right?
- 37:38SPEAKER_01: I mean, what was that song?
- 37:39SPEAKER_01: Well there's a song called D.
- 37:40SPEAKER_01: Yeah, which is about his mother?
- 37:41SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I shouldn't say.
- 37:43SPEAKER_01: Which is about it's absolutely beautiful.
- 37:45SPEAKER_01: It's not about his mother because it's an instrumental.
- 37:47SPEAKER_02: But it's like it's like fifty, it's not it's less than a minute long.
- 37:49SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 37:50SPEAKER_02: And it's an absolutely beautiful song.
- 37:52SPEAKER_02: Um they were talking about when he was with Quiet Riot, he did this guitar soul that he called uh Laughing Gas.
- 37:59SPEAKER_02: Yep.
- 38:00SPEAKER_02: Which was really quite intricate.
- 38:03SPEAKER_02: And you know.
- 38:04SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 38:06SPEAKER_01: Um there's uh oh well that's outtakes.
- 38:09SPEAKER_01: I don't want outtakes.
- 38:10SPEAKER_01: Hold on.
- 38:11SPEAKER_01: Let's see.
- 38:14SPEAKER_01: Well, jeez, can I get the actual original?
- 38:17SPEAKER_01: There we go.
- 38:28SPEAKER_01: See, I think he got as much joy out of this type of stuff.
- 38:31SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, as Crazy Drain.
- 39:13SPEAKER_01: Well, I you know what I got out of that?
- 39:16SPEAKER_01: This is this is what I or Spanish Fly.
- 39:19SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, Tesla.
- 39:20SPEAKER_02: Yep, love song.
- 39:22SPEAKER_01: I never realized how similar those were.
- 39:24SPEAKER_02: Yeah, there's a lot of those trills and things.
- 39:26SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 39:29SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's not identical.
- 39:31SPEAKER_01: No, no.
- 39:32SPEAKER_01: It's a it's the same vibe.
- 39:34SPEAKER_02: I bet I bet Randy influenced this.
- 39:36SPEAKER_01: I bet he did.
- 39:37SPEAKER_02: You know.
- 39:38SPEAKER_01: Yep, I bet he did.
- 39:40SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 39:40SPEAKER_01: Well that's a that's an interesting thought.
- 39:42SPEAKER_01: If rent what if Randy Rhodes was still around?
- 39:44SPEAKER_02: I think uh it was just, you know, it was just I mean, he he could have ruled the 80s.
- 39:50SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
- 39:50SPEAKER_02: He could have left I mean, yeah, he kept going.
- 39:54SPEAKER_02: But I, you know, I I don't know if he would have been constrained by the whole Ozzy thing.
- 39:59SPEAKER_01: Well, that's what I was gonna say, because if he remained with Ozzy, because Ozzy here's the difference I see between um Ozzy and Van Halen.
- 40:09SPEAKER_01: Van Halen was uh pop party rock band.
- 40:15SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 40:15SPEAKER_01: You know, they were good time boys, and uh and and I stress the word pop because they did go pop.
- 40:21SPEAKER_01: I mean jump and and all that stuff.
- 40:24SPEAKER_01: That's pop music, um popular, right?
- 40:28SPEAKER_01: Um Ozzie was a rocker.
- 40:31SPEAKER_01: He was you know he was although his stuff had uh pop leanings like Bark at the Moon and uh uh Shot in the Dark.
- 40:39SPEAKER_01: Shot in the Dark That's a pop song.
- 40:40SPEAKER_01: Yeah, um but he's a heart-redged and and um not as Van Halen was being played on pop radio.
- 40:48SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 40:49SPEAKER_01: Ozzy wasn't.
- 40:50SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 40:50SPEAKER_01: Ozzy was being played on rock radio.
- 40:52SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 40:53SPEAKER_01: Um so I uh if he had stuck with Ozzy I think he eventually would have left Ozzy and done his own thing.
- 41:03SPEAKER_02: You know, if he felt constrained to the point where he was just like, I gotta go do my own thing, he would have left Ozzy.
- 41:08SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 41:09SPEAKER_02: You know.
- 41:10SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 41:12SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 41:12SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
- 41:13SPEAKER_01: I mean that's that's a cool thing to ponder.
- 41:15SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I I've always you know, I like I said, it all started with Mr.
- 41:18SPEAKER_02: Crowley, and I was like, man, I don't hardly know anything about Randy Rhodes.
- 41:22SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 41:22SPEAKER_02: So, you know, I had to I had to learn some stuff about him, you know, and then I was like, wow, I mean this guy was he was young, but he was good.
- 41:29SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 41:30SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
- 41:30SPEAKER_02: You know?
- 41:31SPEAKER_02: And he I I think he influenced a lot of the guitar players that came after him.
- 41:35SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 41:35SPEAKER_02: You know, even you know, like you know, Quiet Riot didn't get their get their break until after he left.
- 41:41SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 41:42SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
- 41:42SPEAKER_01: Yep.
- 41:43SPEAKER_02: And so I mean, you know, and he took Rudy Sarzo with him when he joined Ozzy.
- 41:49SPEAKER_02: That's true.
- 41:49SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
- 41:50SPEAKER_01: I forgot that Rudy played for Ozzy.
- 41:52SPEAKER_01: Rudy has played with everybody.
- 41:53SPEAKER_02: He's played with everybody, dude.
- 41:54SPEAKER_02: He's like, he's I mean, he's amazing too in his own right.
- 41:58SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
- 41:58SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
- 41:59SPEAKER_02: And and when and of course they interview Rudy, and you know, he even when he tells the story of when Randy died, he still breaks up.
- 42:07SPEAKER_02: I mean, I mean that was 1982.
- 42:09SPEAKER_02: I mean, this this movie was made just like last year.
- 42:11SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 42:12SPEAKER_02: Well, I think I think I think uh he he was a very you know he and Randy were very close.
- 42:17SPEAKER_02: And also Randy was just a sweet kid.
- 42:19SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he just yeah, everybody nobody had anything bad to say about Randy.
- 42:22SPEAKER_02: I mean he wasn't a partier.
- 42:24SPEAKER_02: I mean he didn't get he didn't get drunk and get he was a jerk or anything like that.
- 42:28SPEAKER_02: He was just he was just a generally nice guy that wanted to play.
- 42:31SPEAKER_01: It was a quiet, humble, sweet kid, and uh and and and when something like that happens, um you're taken away too soon.
- 42:39SPEAKER_01: I mean, I mean tragic.
- 42:41SPEAKER_02: Some jag off with a pilot's license, jerk, you know, and yeah, took, you know, if it had been just that guy, I wouldn't cared.
- 42:48SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 42:48SPEAKER_02: But he took two other people with him.
- 42:50SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 42:51SPEAKER_02: You know?
- 42:51SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 42:52SPEAKER_02: And one of them was Randy Rhodes, you know, and it just it just you know robbed the world of what he could have done.
- 42:57SPEAKER_01: Here's something to ponder.
- 42:59SPEAKER_01: Uh I just thought of this because it was it was different but similar in uh you know, the tragedy.
- 43:11SPEAKER_01: What if Randy Rhodes was in a band with Clifford from Italy?
- 43:24SPEAKER_01: Cliff Burton.
- 43:26SPEAKER_01: Can you imagine?
- 43:27SPEAKER_01: Think of a drummer.
- 43:28SPEAKER_01: Is there a drummer that's passed?
- 43:30SPEAKER_01: Neil Peart.
- 43:33SPEAKER_01: Cliff Burton, Neil Peart.
- 43:35SPEAKER_02: I don't think I don't think I don't think Neil Pearl would have failed with Cliff.
- 43:39SPEAKER_02: He could've.
- 43:44SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 43:44SPEAKER_02: And you know, Randy was classical, you know, and Neil Peart loved everything.
- 43:48SPEAKER_02: Think about that for a second.
- 43:50SPEAKER_02: Neil Peart Neil Peart Cliff Burton Randy Rhodes.
- 43:54unknown: Wow.
- 43:54SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 43:56SPEAKER_01: Who would sing?
- 43:57SPEAKER_02: Who cares?
- 43:59SPEAKER_02: Good point.
- 44:01SPEAKER_02: Nobody would be paying any attention to the singer.
- 44:04SPEAKER_01: That's true.
- 44:04SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
- 44:06SPEAKER_02: You would just be like That would have been like super groupie.
- 44:37SPEAKER_01: I'm trying to think if you even need a front man or a woman.
- 44:56SPEAKER_02: Yep.
- 44:56SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's well that was a good uh scenario, Doug.
- 44:59SPEAKER_01: Well, thank you.
- 45:00SPEAKER_01: Thanks for putting us uh down that road, because that was kind of neat.
- 45:03SPEAKER_01: Um let's do this.
- 45:07SPEAKER_01: It's alphabet time! Guitar Legends Alphabet's reach book.
- 45:13SPEAKER_02: There we go.
- 45:14SPEAKER_02: What letter are we?
- 45:15SPEAKER_01: Oh, I know what we're on.
- 45:16SPEAKER_02: I think we're on N, aren't we?
- 45:18SPEAKER_01: We are, yes, because uh did I I and I think I told you this, but I'm gonna tell you again.
- 45:22SPEAKER_01: Uh just for the listeners, it was quite funny.
- 45:25SPEAKER_01: My uh my wife, who uh I think sometimes doesn't listen to the podcast, um always surprises me.
- 45:33SPEAKER_01: So she was uh out for a walk the other day uh with her headphones in, and uh I drove by and I had to tell her something.
- 45:41SPEAKER_01: I had to tell her, you know, where the kids the kids were down to her mother's and blah blah blah.
- 45:45SPEAKER_01: Uh so I'll see you when you get home.
- 45:47SPEAKER_01: And she said, okay.
- 45:49SPEAKER_01: And then without skipping a beat, she went, Mark.
- 45:55SPEAKER_01: Mark.
- 45:56SPEAKER_01: Obviously, she was listening to the podcast on her walk.
- 46:01SPEAKER_01: Which is quite funny because last week it was Mark Doffler.
- 46:04SPEAKER_01: So the letter of the day today, or this week, is N.
- 46:09SPEAKER_01: So we are reading from the Guitar Legends Alphabet and the Drum Legends Alphabet book, book, both by Beck Feiner.
- 46:15SPEAKER_01: Beck Feiner.
- 46:16SPEAKER_01: Um, and N is for Neil Young.
- 46:21SPEAKER_02: Oh there we go.
- 46:25SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna read it and then I'll tell you my thoughts on Neil Young.
- 46:28SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 46:29SPEAKER_01: The Godfather of Grunge is proof that you don't need Flash to be a guitar legend.
- 46:35SPEAKER_01: Nobody can express feeling through playing like Young, and his ability to create simple, soul-crushing parts on both acoustic and electric guitar scored him twenty-six Grammy nominations in twenty five years.
- 46:50SPEAKER_01: I hate Neil Young's guitar playing.
- 46:55SPEAKER_01: His electric playing.
- 46:56SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 46:57SPEAKER_01: Um and and and that's a strong word, too.
- 46:59SPEAKER_01: I I'll I'll take that.
- 47:00SPEAKER_02: You strongly dislike it.
- 47:01SPEAKER_01: I well it's and I see the place for it, and I and I uh it's just his lead playing on electric guitar is just abandoned.
- 47:16SPEAKER_01: Like wild abandoned.
- 47:17SPEAKER_01: He just like sometimes he hits the wrong note.
- 47:19SPEAKER_01: He doesn't he doesn't care.
- 47:20SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 47:20SPEAKER_01: He's just he's just going for a a vibe, and um it's just wild.
- 47:28SPEAKER_01: And it's uh and if you're into that, that's great.
- 47:32SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 47:33SPEAKER_01: Um I like Melody.
- 47:35SPEAKER_01: Yep.
- 47:35SPEAKER_01: Um not always, but uh just his his lead guitar playing has always bothered me.
- 47:41SPEAKER_01: His acoustic playing, unbelievable.
- 47:44SPEAKER_01: I I think he's an amazing acoustic player.
- 47:46SPEAKER_01: Actually, well, he's an amazing guitar player, but when he could like with Crazy Horse, you know, and in the Rockin' on the free rockin' in the free world and all those, you know, those those rocking songs that he did.
- 47:57SPEAKER_01: Um even you know, even some of the stuff that he did back with um uh Crosby Seals Nash and Young, where he would do solos and stuff like that.
- 48:05SPEAKER_01: It just seems like just like just kind of plucking all wherever he fit, you know, I can't explain it.
- 48:14SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 48:15SPEAKER_01: Um I get what you would mean.
- 48:16SPEAKER_01: Um but it was anyway, so I he just I guess he deserves to p be in this book.
- 48:24SPEAKER_01: I could think of other ends probably before Neil Young, but and the godfather of grunge, where does that come from?
- 48:31SPEAKER_02: I have no idea.
- 48:31SPEAKER_02: That's the first time I've got a big one.
- 48:32SPEAKER_01: Is it because he wore plaid shirts?
- 48:34SPEAKER_01: Or or I mean flannel shirts?
- 48:36SPEAKER_01: Who knows?
- 48:36SPEAKER_01: Um I don't know.
- 48:37SPEAKER_01: I thought that's just because he was from Canada.
- 48:41SPEAKER_01: Well, I know uh Eddie Venner's a pretty big fan of Neil Young.
- 48:44SPEAKER_02: So I don't know if that's he lived on the border of Canada, right?
- 48:46SPEAKER_02: So, you know.
- 48:47SPEAKER_02: Flannel, you know, made its way down.
- 48:50SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 48:50SPEAKER_02: You know.
- 48:51SPEAKER_01: Anyway, so uh who does hold up that way.
- 48:54SPEAKER_01: Who do you got for the drum legend?
- 48:56SPEAKER_02: Well, speaking of Neils, and it's for Neil Peart.
- 49:00SPEAKER_02: Woo! Known to fans as the Professor.
- 49:06SPEAKER_02: Sorry.
- 49:07SPEAKER_02: Ah, and it's for Neil Peart, known as known to fans as the professor.
- 49:11SPEAKER_02: This virtuoso drummer led his Canadian prog rock group Rush through complicated rhythms and off-kilter time signatures.
- 49:18SPEAKER_02: His mind-blowing tracks are some of the most rehearsed by drum students around the world.
- 49:25SPEAKER_01: You can't go wrong with that.
- 49:26SPEAKER_02: There is nothing I can disagree with in that.
- 49:30SPEAKER_01: Interesting.
- 49:31SPEAKER_01: Two Canadians.
- 49:32SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 49:33SPEAKER_02: So So we should get sponsorship from the government of Canada right now.
- 49:37SPEAKER_01: I don't want anything from the government of Canada.
- 49:40SPEAKER_01: Um keep your loonies.
- 49:42SPEAKER_01: So so we usually pair them up.
- 49:45SPEAKER_01: I cannot see those two together.
- 49:46SPEAKER_02: Absolutely not.
- 49:49SPEAKER_01: It's like two completely different philosophies.
- 49:52SPEAKER_02: I think Neil Peart would have stabbed him in the eye with a stick at some point.
- 49:58SPEAKER_01: I bet you they're both probably big fans of each other, actually.
- 50:00SPEAKER_02: Oh, I'm sure they are, you know.
- 50:02SPEAKER_02: I'm sure they've, you know, met up a f you know, a time or two at some point.
- 50:06SPEAKER_02: Oh, but you know, because they're Canadians, you know, so they, you know, just they got that in common.
- 50:10SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 50:11SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 50:11SPEAKER_02: But other than that, I don't think musically they would have meshed well.
- 50:15SPEAKER_01: I agree.
- 50:17SPEAKER_01: And that, my friends, is the the guitar legend and the drum legend alphabet words or or artists of the day.
- 50:25SPEAKER_01: The letter N.
- 50:27SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 50:28SPEAKER_01: So we are going to oh, should I do this?
- 50:32SPEAKER_01: It's a signal that it's almost the wall of tunes.
- 50:38SPEAKER_02: The wall longest running uh Brian and Doug podcast.
- 50:44SPEAKER_01: Bit?
- 50:44SPEAKER_02: Bit.
- 50:45SPEAKER_02: Bit.
- 50:45SPEAKER_02: Bit or feature.
- 50:46SPEAKER_02: Feature.
- 50:47SPEAKER_02: Feature.
- 50:48SPEAKER_02: I liked your feature before.
- 50:48SPEAKER_02: I like feature video too.
- 50:50SPEAKER_02: Um we've been doing this almost since the beginning.
- 50:53SPEAKER_01: I was gonna ask that.
- 50:54SPEAKER_01: I wonder when uh when we started.
- 50:56SPEAKER_02: It was early in the first season.
- 50:59SPEAKER_02: Was it early in the first season?
- 51:00SPEAKER_02: It was.
- 51:00SPEAKER_02: It was very early.
- 51:01SPEAKER_02: I think the first couple were like we didn't have it, but it was after that.
- 51:04SPEAKER_02: You were like, hey, we should do this.
- 51:06SPEAKER_02: It was when you were getting ready your CD collection.
- 51:08SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 51:09SPEAKER_01: Do you remember that?
- 51:11SPEAKER_01: I had a lot more CDs than this.
- 51:13SPEAKER_01: Dude, it would have been the house of tunes.
- 51:16SPEAKER_02: You had so many CDs.
- 51:17SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and you know, I have I have gotten a lot of CDs.
- 51:20SPEAKER_02: I've gotten more.
- 51:22SPEAKER_01: Every time I go to Bull Moose.
- 51:23SPEAKER_02: Well, you have to, man.
- 51:24SPEAKER_01: It's Bull Moose, man.
- 51:25SPEAKER_01: My kids have always said, you know, you know, Dad, if you're buying a CD at Bull Moose, you gotta get rid of one of your CDs in the in the fun dungeon.
- 51:32SPEAKER_01: And I always said, shut up.
- 51:34SPEAKER_01: What do you know?
- 51:36SPEAKER_02: You're like six.
- 51:37SPEAKER_02: Go watch.
- 51:39SPEAKER_01: Alright, so we're gonna climb the wall of the show.
- 51:40SPEAKER_02: Go watch Stranger Things.
- 51:41SPEAKER_02: Oh, right, you can't.
- 51:44SPEAKER_02: Sucks to be young.
- 51:48SPEAKER_02: Wall of Tunes is next.
- 51:49SPEAKER_02: You suck.
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- 53:18SPEAKER_10: Welcome to the Wall of Tunes.
- 53:20SPEAKER_10: It's wonderful.
- 53:21SPEAKER_02: Oh, you know what it is?
- 53:22SPEAKER_02: It's a cross between Dr.
- 53:23SPEAKER_02: Evil and Lawrence Wilkes.
- 53:25SPEAKER_01: Oh, yes.
- 53:28SPEAKER_01: Or it's a cross between Dr.
- 53:30SPEAKER_01: Evil and Robin Williams' impression of Lawrence Walk.
- 53:33SPEAKER_09: There it is.
- 53:35SPEAKER_02: Let's go, let's bug a little.
- 53:36SPEAKER_10: Let's go, let's bug a little toe we puke.
- 53:40SPEAKER_02: There it is.
- 53:40SPEAKER_02: That's what I was.
- 53:42SPEAKER_01: Alright, so I'm gonna take my headphones off.
- 53:44SPEAKER_01: You're gonna turn the other one.
- 53:45SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna look over here.
- 53:46SPEAKER_02: Oh, oh, there's your old pedal board.
- 53:48SPEAKER_01: Yes, exactly.
- 53:49SPEAKER_02: Look at that.
- 53:53SPEAKER_02: It looks it looks so sad over there.
- 53:56SPEAKER_02: It's like, how come how come we can't play with everybody else?
- 53:59SPEAKER_02: Well, that's because you're you guys don't do it much.
- 54:02SPEAKER_10: Well, yeah, but we're still good.
- 54:04SPEAKER_10: Why can't we play with everybody?
- 54:05SPEAKER_02: Well, that's the part of the thing, you know.
- 54:08SPEAKER_02: We have to move on from you.
- 54:10SPEAKER_02: Okay, it's not that you weren't good pedals, but your time is done.
- 54:14SPEAKER_02: Well, well, we're still useful.
- 54:15SPEAKER_02: Well, we maybe we'll sell you.
- 54:17SPEAKER_02: And then use the money to, you know, fund uh, you know, rebels in Ukraine or something, you know.
- 54:22SPEAKER_02: So, you know, you don't know what's gonna happen yet.
- 54:26SPEAKER_02: Your time is not over, pedal.
- 54:28SPEAKER_02: It's okay.
- 54:29SPEAKER_02: Your time will come again.
- 54:32SPEAKER_02: Or my name is not Robin Evil.
- 54:36SPEAKER_02: Sorry.
- 54:36SPEAKER_01: Are you done?
- 54:37SPEAKER_01: I guess so.
- 54:39SPEAKER_01: I have a I have a CD.
- 54:41SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay, good.
- 54:42SPEAKER_01: I forgot what we were doing.
- 54:45SPEAKER_01: All right, let's do it.
- 54:47SPEAKER_01: This is one of those ones where uh I'm I'm happy I picked this CD, but you're not gonna get it.
- 54:53SPEAKER_01: Um I'm happy I picked it because it will it will hopefully turn people on to an unknown well, I shouldn't say an unknown artist, but not a mainstream artist.
- 55:03SPEAKER_01: Okay, but you're not gonna get it, so I don't know what I should do.
- 55:06SPEAKER_02: Let's not uh waste everybody's time.
- 55:08SPEAKER_01: Let's get to the artist.
- 55:09SPEAKER_01: So I should just say who the artist is.
- 55:11SPEAKER_01: Just tell us who it is.
- 55:12SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 55:13SPEAKER_01: Um I know that guy.
- 55:16SPEAKER_02: Is it a guy?
- 55:17SPEAKER_01: It is a guy.
- 55:18SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 55:18SPEAKER_01: Um it's a folk artist.
- 55:20SPEAKER_01: All right.
- 55:21SPEAKER_01: Um his name is Peter Mulvey.
- 55:23SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I never would have got it.
- 55:25SPEAKER_02: We would have been here all night and the rest of the week.
- 55:28SPEAKER_01: I never would have got it.
- 55:29SPEAKER_01: Um the album is called Kitchen Radio.
- 55:31SPEAKER_02: Oh.
- 55:32SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 55:32SPEAKER_02: I have a radio in my kitchen.
- 55:34SPEAKER_01: Um I love this.
- 55:37SPEAKER_01: This guy is one of those one of those folk contemporary folk artists, you know, that plays coffee shops and stuff like that.
- 55:43SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 55:43SPEAKER_01: But his guitar playing, like alternate tunings and just and and uh the lyrics that he writes are topical and he's got an interesting voice.
- 55:55SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 55:56SPEAKER_01: Uh the the reason I bought this album is for one song.
- 56:02SPEAKER_01: Uh and uh there's there's I'm not gonna say I love every song on the album.
- 56:08SPEAKER_01: Um but there's a lot of songs that I really like.
- 56:11SPEAKER_01: But this one song, I I don't know what it was.
- 56:13SPEAKER_01: I think I heard it I used to listen to a thing, and we've probably talked about this before.
- 56:17SPEAKER_01: Main Public Radio used to do maybe they still do the show on uh weeknights at ten o'clock PM with um a woman named Sarah Willis.
- 56:27SPEAKER_01: She was the host, and it was called In Tune by Ten.
- 56:30SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 56:31SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 56:32SPEAKER_01: And she would play contemporary folk artists.
- 56:35SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 56:35SPEAKER_01: Uh and and I would listen and to to hear you know things that I hadn't heard before.
- 56:41SPEAKER_01: Um and and this song, I think uh she had played this song on there.
- 56:45SPEAKER_01: And I was like, wow, who is that?
- 56:46SPEAKER_01: I need to find that.
- 56:48SPEAKER_01: So anyway, I I found the album and I love it.
- 56:50SPEAKER_01: So I'm gonna play that song right now.
- 56:53SPEAKER_01: Uh and I just What was the name again?
- 56:58SPEAKER_01: Peter what?
- 56:58SPEAKER_01: Peter Mulvey.
- 56:59SPEAKER_01: Mulvey.
- 57:00SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 57:00SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 57:01SPEAKER_01: And this song is called Shirt.
- 57:04SPEAKER_02: Wow.
- 57:05SPEAKER_01: Tropical.
- 57:05SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 57:06SPEAKER_02: Well because I'm wearing a shirt.
- 57:08SPEAKER_02: You're wearing a shirt.
- 57:09SPEAKER_01: I am.
- 57:10SPEAKER_01: So hold on, let me s let me start that over.
- 57:18SPEAKER_01: Just listen to the words.
- 57:29SPEAKER_01: Got a very deep voice.
- 57:38SPEAKER_04: Oh, you know you that so much time just to let things go now, you're burning letters out in the snow in your backyard.
- 57:54SPEAKER_04: Here's go bowling your birds.
- 58:01SPEAKER_04: Oh the old it's a good back to cry when you scare your name at it hard.
- 58:23SPEAKER_04: The same old joy.
- 58:26SPEAKER_04: The same old code.
- 58:30SPEAKER_04: Same old code rush.
- 58:34SPEAKER_01: So it's about aging, really.
- 58:36SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 58:36SPEAKER_01: It's about like how you working letters of the snow.
- 58:39SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I like the where your life is taking you.
- 58:42SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like it's it's the same old same old.
- 58:45SPEAKER_01: What are you gonna do about it?
- 58:46SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:00:03SPEAKER_04: The same old code of rush.
- 1:00:06SPEAKER_02: Isn't that cool?
- 1:00:07SPEAKER_04: Just kind of bounces along.
- 1:00:08SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 1:00:10SPEAKER_02: It's a nice melody and it's a nice uh it's a nice pace.
- 1:00:14SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 1:00:14SPEAKER_02: And the words are really kind of cool because it's it's just uh it's like reminiscent of you know, just common day things in your life.
- 1:00:22SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:00:23SPEAKER_01: And I read an article uh when the song came out.
- 1:00:26SPEAKER_01: I used to subscribe to a magazine that would that I really miss.
- 1:00:29SPEAKER_01: I call Performing Songwriter.
- 1:00:31SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, I remember that.
- 1:00:32SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I had like a a collection of them, and I you know, trashed them when I got rid of some CDs and I was just trying to clean house.
- 1:00:40SPEAKER_01: But I had a lot of back issues of performing songwriters.
- 1:00:42SPEAKER_01: Since uh I think it I don't even think it's um digital or anything.
- 1:00:46SPEAKER_01: I think they they it's now gone.
- 1:00:49SPEAKER_01: But uh I was reading an interview with him in that and the skateboard girls thing, you know, um he was looking out the window, his kitchen window, and there were girls going by on skateboards.
- 1:01:00SPEAKER_01: So he was looking for a line.
- 1:01:01SPEAKER_01: So sure, you know, the grocery list and the skateboard girls.
- 1:01:04SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I like that.
- 1:01:05SPEAKER_02: You know, um yeah, it was a it was a it was an interesting uh juxtaposition of those two.
- 1:01:10SPEAKER_02: I was like, where is he going?
- 1:01:11SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but I now that you say um and then he and then you got a song called Twenty-Nine Cent Head, which is uh political.
- 1:01:20SPEAKER_10: Okay.
- 1:01:20SPEAKER_01: And I don't uh I don't know that I subscribe to or agree with uh um Peter Mulvey's politics, but um I I don't really care uh because I like the music.
- 1:01:31SPEAKER_01: So that's all it matters.
- 1:01:33SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so but the the the groove of this one and the guitar playing in this one is awesome and it is political, uh and I I think a to a large degree.
- 1:01:45SPEAKER_01: Maybe I do agree with what uh what he's saying here, but just check this one out.
- 1:02:00SPEAKER_04: A billion blue tubes light up a billion moons.
- 1:02:05SPEAKER_04: The night outside is as quiet as a tomb.
- 1:02:11SPEAKER_04: The fools on the screen try to get each other in the bed.
- 1:02:16SPEAKER_04: It's a forty dollar haircut on a twenty-nine cent head.
- 1:02:22SPEAKER_04: Just don't get it.
- 1:02:23SPEAKER_04: Now you just don't get it, just don't get it.
- 1:02:28SPEAKER_04: Can't you get something else instead?
- 1:02:34SPEAKER_04: Them shapes in the bed of the senator and the CEO.
- 1:02:40SPEAKER_04: Which one is on top?
- 1:02:42SPEAKER_04: Wouldn't we like to know?
- 1:02:45SPEAKER_04: I just got his hand on the top of his B Oh class preaching to you.
- 1:02:52SPEAKER_04: They just want you to agree, but they just don't get it.
- 1:03:02SPEAKER_04: But you know it don't come to me, don't feel like a little bit of a good idea.
- 1:04:20SPEAKER_01: You see what I mean?
- 1:04:21SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:04:22SPEAKER_02: I mean it's I think it's just a commentary on life itself.
- 1:04:25SPEAKER_01: And this was uh this was 2004.
- 1:04:27SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 1:04:27SPEAKER_02: So this is I mean I that line, a$40 haircut on a 29 cent head.
- 1:04:32SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 1:04:33SPEAKER_02: I mean, that's just brilliant.
- 1:04:34SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 1:04:34SPEAKER_02: That's brilliant, right?
- 1:04:35SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:04:36SPEAKER_01: And the beginning part, you know, uh um all all the TVs basically.
- 1:04:40SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:04:40SPEAKER_01: Telling you what to think.
- 1:04:41SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's all you know.
- 1:04:43SPEAKER_02: I think it's uh I think it's just a nice uh it's a smart commentary on just you know popular culture.
- 1:04:48SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know.
- 1:04:49SPEAKER_02: Um the state of the state of culture, I should say.
- 1:04:52SPEAKER_01: Yep.
- 1:04:53SPEAKER_01: Uh so Peter Mulvey, that's the album, Kitchen Radio, and he's obviously got a lot more albums than that, but this was and I have another one that's mostly instrumental, just his guitar playing, and it's amazing.
- 1:05:04SPEAKER_01: Uh at least I did.
- 1:05:05unknown: Maybe that's the one I got rid of.
- 1:05:07SPEAKER_01: I'm not sure.
- 1:05:08SPEAKER_01: I'm not sure.
- 1:05:09SPEAKER_01: I'd have to I'd have to.
- 1:05:10SPEAKER_02: Well, maybe we'll find it by accident.
- 1:05:12SPEAKER_02: Yeah, right.
- 1:05:13SPEAKER_02: On a future wall of tunes.
- 1:05:15SPEAKER_01: Right, right.
- 1:05:15SPEAKER_01: You're like, all right, we already talked about that guy.
- 1:05:18SPEAKER_01: Um so the album is Kitchen Radio from 2004.
- 1:05:21SPEAKER_01: Uh that is the Wall of Tunes album Hall of the Week.
- 1:05:27SPEAKER_01: And that is season six, episode ten.
- 1:05:31SPEAKER_01: Ten.
- 1:05:32SPEAKER_01: X rated Roman noodles.
- 1:05:36SPEAKER_01: Rated PG.
- 1:05:38SPEAKER_02: Roman noodles.
- 1:05:40SPEAKER_01: Did you just say Roman noodles?
- 1:05:41SPEAKER_01: Probably.
- 1:05:42SPEAKER_01: Is that where they got the name Ramen noodles?
- 1:05:44SPEAKER_01: Like Roman noodles numerals?
- 1:05:46SPEAKER_01: Probably.
- 1:05:49SPEAKER_02: Ramen noodle noodles.
- 1:05:50SPEAKER_02: Ramen noodles.
- 1:05:51SPEAKER_02: Roman numerals.
- 1:05:52SPEAKER_02: Roman numerals, ramen noodles.
- 1:05:54SPEAKER_02: I bet there's a correlation in there.
- 1:05:55SPEAKER_02: There's gotta be.
- 1:05:57SPEAKER_02: Probably not, but you know, whatever.
- 1:05:59SPEAKER_02: I bet it'll be on a future episode of Stranger Things.
- 1:06:05SPEAKER_02: If not, it should be.
- 1:06:06SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 1:06:07SPEAKER_02: All right.
- 1:06:08SPEAKER_02: Uh until next week.
- 1:06:10SPEAKER_02: I'm O'Brien.
- 1:06:11SPEAKER_02: I'm still Doug.
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