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INTERVIEW: Raheem DeVaugh Talks Healthy Love, Reinvention, New Album 'Quiet Storm Lover Tome Un' + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Every day I waiting pick your ass up the Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I'm finish for y'all done.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, was more dangerous morning show to Breakfast Club, Charlamage
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  Speaker 2: God just hilarious. Envy and Lauren are out, but we
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  Speaker 2: got some special guests in the building right now.
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  Speaker 1: He's got a new album out, Choirtstorm Lover Tome. Is
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  Speaker 1: it Tome?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? That's value one for French.
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  Speaker 2: Oh okay, we learned something every day. Rahim Divine is here?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, Yes, what's going on? Good morning?
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  Speaker 1: He's still sick? Shut up?
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  Speaker 3: Shut up?
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  Speaker 4: Hi, what's up?
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  Speaker 3: Birthday girl? You know, I know you're still celebrating, Yes,
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  Speaker 3: getting it in.
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  Speaker 1: How do you feel, my brother?
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  Speaker 3: I feel good, man, you know, I feel vibrant. I
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  Speaker 3: feel like I reinvented myself once again, you know, and
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  Speaker 3: I'm thankful just to have my name in the conversation
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  Speaker 3: after all these years, you know, twenty years of the
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  Speaker 3: love experience and being in the music business. You know,
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  Speaker 3: we celebrated that last year, you know, twenty twenty five.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm actually currently in and approaching year twenty one
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  Speaker 3: of my first album, you know what I mean? And uh,
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  Speaker 3: it's great. Man, it's great. It's it's a great and
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, and what better place to be
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  Speaker 3: in the morning. I'm Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, brother.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like your name is always in the conversation,
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  Speaker 2: Like we had Jill Scott up here. Jill Scott was
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  Speaker 2: talking about how like there's certain artists that it ain't
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  Speaker 2: about number one records, it ain't about you know, going
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  Speaker 2: triple platinum or anything like that, but their their name
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  Speaker 2: is just always relevant and in the mix. And I
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  Speaker 2: feel like you're one of them, especially when.
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  Speaker 1: It comes to R and B.
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  Speaker 3: I appreciate that, you know that. I think that that's pulse,
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  Speaker 3: that's culture. You know, that's what that's that you know,
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  Speaker 3: that's that's that's what I've always strived and aspired to
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  Speaker 3: inspire to be, you know at this point of my career.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, it's it's it's you know, it's not we
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  Speaker 3: make it look easy as an independent artist. I've been
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  Speaker 3: independent for fifteen years, you know what I mean. So
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  Speaker 3: I've been I've been my own trial and error in
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  Speaker 3: Guinea Pig for a lot of different things. You know,
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  Speaker 3: even even this release, you know, this is an early release.
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  Speaker 3: It's too there's there's two releases that that have happened,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Shout out to even do
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  Speaker 3: Biz and mad Rodriguez for for creating a platform that
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  Speaker 3: allows us to go direct the consumer, you know, cut
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  Speaker 3: out the middle man, the third party. It's the second
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  Speaker 3: time j Cole has used the platform, you know, you know,
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  Speaker 3: uh and most recently and back being back outside, I
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  Speaker 3: actually discovered the platform through through uh L Russell, you
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  Speaker 3: know who's the case study artist. Yeah, and then we
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  Speaker 3: got and then we got technology like like this, you know,
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  Speaker 3: n f c's you know, uh, digital real estate where
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  Speaker 3: we allowed you know, the fans to get exclusive content,
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  Speaker 3: memorabilia and uh yeah. Man. So it's about being on
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  Speaker 3: the cutting edge of it, you know, and and and
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  Speaker 3: I got I got in early too, you know if
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  Speaker 3: you know, you know, you know investment talk, you know
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  Speaker 3: what I mean. So so so so so it's about
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  Speaker 3: not just it's not just about utilizing the tools, you know,
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  Speaker 3: find a way to have you know, ownership in the tool,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I mean, partnership in the tool.
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  Speaker 2: Screaming is like you you've been around long enough to
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  Speaker 2: see both sides of screaming is just a waste of time.
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  Speaker 3: For artists, well, I mean yeah, absolutely, when you when
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  Speaker 3: you when you see Jimmy Ive going publicly saying that
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  Speaker 3: streaming is on his last leg, I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 3: for me, it's just like you know, as somebody who
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  Speaker 3: came out in two thousand and two with the first
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  Speaker 3: record deal with Job and then the album dropped in
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  Speaker 3: two thousand and five, you know, as a curator, as
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  Speaker 3: a curator and the first R and B SO singer
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  Speaker 3: to make mixtapes, you know what I mean, and being
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  Speaker 3: on the cut of cutting cutting edge of innovation, like
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  Speaker 3: it's safe to say CDs are back. Yeah, physical, physical
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  Speaker 3: merchants back. You know which, by the way, you know,
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  Speaker 3: you get the album on even, you get access to CDs, tape, cassettes,
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  Speaker 3: vinyl that I got coming for my top tier supporters.
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  Speaker 3: On even you get a second album that's not even out,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. You know what I mean.
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  Speaker 3: So so so you know, no shade to any of
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  Speaker 3: the DSPs. You know, I still rock with Apple, I
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  Speaker 3: still rock with Title, you know what I mean. The
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  Speaker 3: digital release for the album, you know, where it goes global, uh,
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  Speaker 3: will be on March six, you know, you know, but
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  Speaker 3: right now we're focused on the super fans and give
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  Speaker 3: them the super fans an experience that only they can get.
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  Speaker 3: And uh, you know, I'm schooling Spotify, like that's the
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  Speaker 3: only place something I put on my music right now.
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  Speaker 3: I don't you know they running ice ads? Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: for sure like ice ads, they will running you catch
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  Speaker 3: that or they would definitely run it.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, they put it on your music. I mean
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  Speaker 4: they'll put it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, the then and then and then the thing
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  Speaker 3: where and then there's a thing where. It's a lot
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  Speaker 3: of if you go down the rabbit hole in terms
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  Speaker 3: of moral compass, it's just things I don't agree with,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I mean? And then and then you
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  Speaker 3: and then you add the fact that you know, we
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  Speaker 3: get a fraction of a penny as an artist anyway,
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  Speaker 3: they've been robbing as blind. It's a billion dollar company
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  Speaker 3: and we get a fraction of a penny. So when
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  Speaker 3: you when you utilize a platform like Even, where you
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  Speaker 3: know a couple My first release on Even was twenty
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  Speaker 3: thirteen Valentine's Day, February thirteenth. That project went on to
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  Speaker 3: do somewhere between like thirty and forty K and only
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  Speaker 3: five hundred people bought that album. Before I went, before
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  Speaker 3: I made it public to the world, you know what
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  Speaker 3: I mean? So you do the math five hundred people,
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  Speaker 3: you know, thirty or forty k? You know what you
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  Speaker 3: have to stream to make thirty forty k? Like you
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  Speaker 3: know what I'm saying these days? So so so so Yes,
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  Speaker 3: I applaud the fact that you know that that CDs
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  Speaker 3: are back and vinyl never left, and even for the
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  Speaker 3: cassette tape lovers out there trying to figure how we
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  Speaker 3: can get it, how we can get it on a
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  Speaker 3: track Charlamagne.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting records. I feel so sorry for artists. I
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  Speaker 2: would be the person that would go to your page
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  Speaker 2: and buy your album and download it to my phone.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I would do that because
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  Speaker 1: when you say a fractionable you know a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: fractionable penny is.
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  Speaker 4: And they don't even make pennies no more. Did you
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  Speaker 4: know that, right?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, hey, that's modern day slavery. But did you
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  Speaker 3: know no, No, I know, Okay, I got I got
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  Speaker 3: me yeah right right, I got a fifty roll. So
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  Speaker 3: that the name of the.
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  Speaker 4: Album quiet Quiet Storm, lover Tonam, it's a significance.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know, for you know, friend, you know I
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  Speaker 3: mean transparently, I don't speak a link a lick of
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  Speaker 3: Frich closest against us to the titles of this album. Right,
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  Speaker 3: But but you know, French has always been associated with
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  Speaker 3: the love language. You know, you know you know what
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  Speaker 3: I mean, and uh you know, I probably you know
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  Speaker 3: pepulate pew probably know it's more French than I.
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  Speaker 2: Why like, why did this feel like the first chapter
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  Speaker 2: or something bigger instead of like a standalone album?
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know I won't, I won't give all the
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  Speaker 3: game away today, but I will say, you know, having
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  Speaker 3: a number one night time showing the music and the
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  Speaker 3: d m V right now, I've been I've been doing
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  Speaker 3: the original Choir Storm. I'm now doing radio full time
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  Speaker 3: Monday through Friday. And uh it's been so surreal because
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  Speaker 3: I grew up listening to h U R. I grew
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  Speaker 3: up listening to the Choir Storm. You know, Melvin Lindsay's
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  Speaker 3: where it started in d C. You know, Uh, Kathy
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  Speaker 3: Hughes was was was the one who came up with
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  Speaker 3: the idea, gave it the Melvin And so now to
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  Speaker 3: being that hot seat, I'm living out my I want
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  Speaker 3: to say, like anything I wanted to do as a child.
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  Speaker 3: I'm in that space right now. Like you know, I
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  Speaker 3: wanted to do radio. I wanted to do I always
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  Speaker 3: wanted to have a go go band. I got a
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  Speaker 3: go go band in DC called the Crank Crusades. Shout
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  Speaker 3: out to the Crank Crusaders. You know, I'm doing that,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, and I'm doing radio. So this album.
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  Speaker 3: I think what's unique about Quadstorm Lover Volume one in
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  Speaker 3: particular is that, uh, it's a fusion of It's a
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  Speaker 3: fu It's the fusion of my two my my my
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  Speaker 3: first love and my new found love, which is radio
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  Speaker 3: and media and and you know, and when and when
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  Speaker 3: you throw that shit, know, you know, it sounds it
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  Speaker 3: sounds like you know, it's it's like, you know, it's
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  Speaker 3: a vibe. You don't have to just let it play.
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  Speaker 3: I like what lay In plays on.
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  Speaker 2: I love when R and B lovers do R and
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  Speaker 2: B radio shows. Keep sweat Hotel. Yeah yeah, yeah, you
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  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Yours Andre Herrel, God Bless the Dead.
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  Speaker 2: He used to do champagnes and champagne and bubbles.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, it's a vibe, you know. But it all started.
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  Speaker 3: It all started with with the choet Storm. You know
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  Speaker 3: that that format, you know what I mean, So to be,
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  Speaker 3: you know, they say you want to make God laugh,
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  Speaker 3: make your own plans to be. To be now doing
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  Speaker 3: the original Quair Storm in DC has just been like
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  Speaker 3: I feel like I'm getting my my good karma back
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  Speaker 3: for all the love I poured it into the city.
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  Speaker 4: You know, Now with this album, are you writing what
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  Speaker 4: were you writing about? What happened in your love life?
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  Speaker 4: Or this this is the credit or just subjectively.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I mean more importantly, just you have
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  Speaker 3: to test the music out, so you got to make sure.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I'm big on customer service, so when you
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  Speaker 3: when you put it together, you got to make sure
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  Speaker 3: that that it works properly. Yeah, you got to.
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  Speaker 1: You got to.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is be blank Yeah you know, but I
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  Speaker 3: mean yeah, I mean, so, what's also unique about this album.
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  Speaker 3: It's all slow jams. So you know, I'm going on
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  Speaker 3: record and saying like, you know, like you know, this
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  Speaker 3: is the slow jam album.
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  Speaker 1: Of the year, R and B.
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  Speaker 3: Clear, that's because it's just a slow jam album of
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  Speaker 3: the year. So if you're looking for you know, I got,
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  Speaker 3: I got, you know, I can be Rahiem Devon could
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  Speaker 3: be many things, right, but this is slow jam album
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  Speaker 3: of the year. You know, I got some more, I
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  Speaker 3: got some treats coming, you know, in the next twelve
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  Speaker 3: to twenty four months. You know, if you if you
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  Speaker 3: love conscious raheem mix tape, mix tape, Raheem devon, you know,
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  Speaker 3: but this is this is like, this is slow jams.
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  Speaker 1: Man.
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  Speaker 3: When you think about the Quiet Storm, you know, you
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  Speaker 3: think about Keith Sweat Sweat Shop, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 3: Like you think you know it's it's it don't even
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  Speaker 3: require too much talking. It's really about that that that
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  Speaker 3: that playlist aka that laylist, and what and what comes
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  Speaker 3: you know, what's coming on before and after?
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting R and B today, like it
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  Speaker 2: leans so heavy into like basically singing sounded like rappers, right,
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  Speaker 2: So it's like a lot of I guess toxicity in
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  Speaker 2: a way. What does healthy love fit in modern R
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  Speaker 2: and B coaches?
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  Speaker 3: I think it. I think it fits man, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I think that speaks to someone's mental health. A lot
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  Speaker 3: of time and the space you in, you know, when
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  Speaker 3: you you know, the older you get, you know, I
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  Speaker 3: remember somebody telling me, you know, in my thirties and
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  Speaker 3: my twenties, you know, the forties would be the best
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  Speaker 3: time of your life. You just got to get there. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: so you know, by the time you get forty, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I had a half a century you know, battles in
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  Speaker 3: life to pick you know.
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  Speaker 1: What I mean.
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  Speaker 3: You you you you you understand the concept of time
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  Speaker 3: and that we're all running out of time. You know,
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  Speaker 3: from the time we get here. You understand, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 3: the gift of decision and free will. Differently, you understand
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  Speaker 3: the gift of one another. I feel like those are
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  Speaker 3: the three greatest gifts and if you utilize those, you know,
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  Speaker 3: through through your artistry or you know, as it relates
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  Speaker 3: the matters of the heart and intimacy, all the things.
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  Speaker 3: You know, you know, life is just a lot easier
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  Speaker 3: and simpler. But you know, it's it's a it's a
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  Speaker 3: learning experience and and and you know that toxicity is
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  Speaker 3: part of it's part of growth.
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  Speaker 4: I guess you know, I love that you had Ari
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  Speaker 4: Lennox on the voicemail. Yeah, with other significance other than
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  Speaker 4: her being from you know, d n V as well.
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  Speaker 3: That was it, you know what I mean, And just
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  Speaker 3: that that that that was it. You know, I feel like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I'm always waving a flag, you know, for home,
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  Speaker 3: for the home team. You know, whether it's whether it's Ari,
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  Speaker 3: you know, whether it's Wilat, you know, the Crank Crusaders,
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  Speaker 3: the back you know, back our band essence. You know,
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  Speaker 3: artist like Neptune twenty one who's hanging out with me,
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  Speaker 3: is just an incredible artist. You know, on to come up.
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  Speaker 3: He looked like she got boss, just ready, ready and fired.
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  Speaker 3: She got and shout out to her and her team
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  Speaker 3: because you know she's you know, it's being an artist
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  Speaker 3: is being many things. Is being is knowing when to
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  Speaker 3: be the artist, is knowing it's starting you know, Uh,
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  Speaker 3: it's knowing being able to do content. You know what
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  Speaker 3: I mean. She's been helping out, you know, been in
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  Speaker 3: charge of content for for my rollout and uh you
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  Speaker 3: know that that it gives me an opportunity to to
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  Speaker 3: do what I'll do best. And it's just like investing
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  Speaker 3: and what's next, you know what I mean, Like because
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  Speaker 3: that's you know, that's something that you know, me coming
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  Speaker 3: up under the tutelage and the mentorship of like DJ
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  Speaker 3: Jazzy Jeff and you know Kenny Dope, Louis Vega, you
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  Speaker 3: know DJ Terry Hunter, like a lot of those guys
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  Speaker 3: I met, uh and countless artists as well through DJ
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  Speaker 3: Jazzy Jeff, you know what I mean. So I'm just
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  Speaker 3: trying to pay it forward, you know, uh with with
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  Speaker 3: with with artists and and and then and then and
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  Speaker 3: and it's and just representing, you know, and then and
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  Speaker 3: I represent for Baltimore two years with the cop and
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  Speaker 3: you already know what it do. It's out to my
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  Speaker 3: Baltimore family too.
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  Speaker 2: Sure you said something interesting, you said that toxicity is
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  Speaker 2: part of growth, right, And it's funny because I think
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  Speaker 2: about the R and B that I grew up on.
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  Speaker 2: The music didn't even reflect maybe the lives those guys
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  Speaker 2: we're living, which is crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Like the music was all about love. It's about love making.
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  Speaker 2: You know, these guys were begging for their women back
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  Speaker 2: Like why, I don't understand why we don't have that
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  Speaker 2: energy now. It's almost like those the lives those guys
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  Speaker 2: were living outside of the music back then. Those people
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  Speaker 2: are doing now and projecting it in their music.
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  Speaker 3: You know, Charlamagne, some will blame the generation before us.
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  Speaker 3: Someone will say that that that you know, it wasn't
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  Speaker 3: passed down, you know, you know I you know, uh
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  Speaker 3: and and some may argue, you know, we're a product
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  Speaker 3: of what we see, you know, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 3: So you know, if we want to if if you
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  Speaker 3: want to see more of that love vibration, we got
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  Speaker 3: to you know, breathe life into it. I'm you know,
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  Speaker 3: I'm a powerful man. I believe in manifestation, you know,
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  Speaker 3: power of prayer and you know, but it's the art
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  Speaker 3: of I think it's I think it's a big difference
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  Speaker 3: between believing and knowing, you know what I mean, And
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  Speaker 3: I believe in the artor you know, I'm in the
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  Speaker 3: art of knowing. Yeah, man, I you know, I hope
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  Speaker 3: that I think with this reason, I won't even call
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  Speaker 3: it a resurgence. I'm glad that Jill is back out.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean. I'm back outside. I stay outside,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. But but but I must admit,
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  Speaker 3: like we turning up on the promo side of things
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  Speaker 3: and in the marketing side of things, you know what
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  Speaker 3: I mean. But far too long, I mean, I've probably
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  Speaker 3: been an industry best kept secret, you know, and continue
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  Speaker 3: to do the work. It's about consistency, though, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and being consistent and.
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  Speaker 4: What's the most important lesson you learned of the album
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  Speaker 4: that you have? You got twenty what is it twenty
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  Speaker 4: Lessons of Love?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Right, yeah, Now what's the most important lesson of love
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  Speaker 4: that you learned? Man, there's a lot of els love.
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  Speaker 3: In order to be happy, you know, happiness requires selfishness. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: happiness requires selfishness, you know what I mean. So, so,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I think, I think, I think for one,
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  Speaker 3: being able to to be just raw, blunt and honest,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Dodge the dodge the gray areas.
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: Gray areas can be gray areas can be can feel
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: like a safe space, but they can cause confusion, you know,
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. But yeah, it's okay to
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: just say it's it's okay to say no. Like, you
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: know what I mean. Happiness requires selfish It's like it's
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: okay to say no, It's okay to it's okay to
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: want to be alone sometimes, you know, you know, you know,
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Like, you know a lot
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: of times were so busy, we're so we're so busy
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: focusing on making everyone else happy, you know, family, partners,
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: whatever the case may be, right, Like, and there's nothing
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: left for you, So you got to start with you.
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: You know, you know, how how can you say, how
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: can you, you know, love somebody, adoring somebody if you
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: don't like love and adoring yourself. You know, I don't
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: like the person that you see when you look in
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: the mirror. Be the best version, Be the best version
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: of yourself you can be for you before you engage
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: with the world and someone else.
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: I literally been telling people that all day.
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: Talking about that all day. Yeah, that's what the topic.
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: So you'll be hearing these, you know, people whether it's
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: men or women, and they you know, feel like they
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: don't have nobody, or you know, they're with somebody and
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: the person's not giving them what they want. Like you know,
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: your first, last, and best love is self love.
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, you can't recognize it in yourself.
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: You'll never Yeah, yeah, you're you're you'll misuse it. You'll
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: you'll you abuse it. You you'll be self sabotaging to it.
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: Now you're a tourist right now.
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: Astrology May fifth single, the min or two.
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: Okay, that's the Chris Ba Yeah very much.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: You love that. That's holiday for Mexicans too.
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: Anyway, what type of lover. Does that make you if
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: you're into astrology, because.
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: You know, I feel like it's two types of lovers.
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: I mean, you have givers and takers. So me, I'm
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: I'm the type that wants to please my partner. You
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. You know, I'm an O D
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean? In some cases if that,
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: if that's what's what's necessary, you know, yeah, yeah, but
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: I mean I feel like, yeah, you got givers, you
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: gotta give us to take us.
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: So you said you're a giver.
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm definitely not the too minute brother. Okay,
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: but not just unless you get yours off in thirty seconds.
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: Not just if I mean, just a giver in the
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: relationship period.
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, yeah, for sure.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: You know, have you ever been a giver to a fault? Though?
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: Like I think we I think we all have, you
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: know what I mean? Like, you know, I think when
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: I learned, when I learned to not I'm kind of
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: giving this away, you know, you know, Free Game, you
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: know the book I'm working on right now. But like
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: as well, but like when I when I learned not
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: to treat the person I'm dating like the girlfriend and
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: not to treat the girlfriend like a wife, because meaning
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: and what that means is that boundaries are you know,
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. But these are things you
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: learned through therapy, you know, through hally, trial and error,
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: you know, and yeah, so yeah, I mean, yeah so
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: every so so so so do it do it to
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: be intentional, but do it with boundaries. Boundaries are necessary,
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean?
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: What zodioxime, would you tell people to stay away from.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: What's your sign? Yeah? See I got wait damn.
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: Man, Well not tell people. But because you know, it's
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: always a batter with.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: You know what, you know what I want? I used to.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I would I wouldn't. I wouldn't
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: because you can't hold people just accountable to the to
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: the astrology, into the into the sign.
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: Now you be jammed up, people be going down a
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: rabbit hole.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah you can't. I think at the end of the day,
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: it's about you know, it's energy. It's energy, you know,
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: and energy is a frequency, right and and it's reading
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: a room like you know, it's it's compatibility is growth,
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: you know, you know, any no matter what the scenario is,
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: you have to compromise. Is gonna be evolved because none
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: of us are perfect, none of the none, none of
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: us are perfect, and we're all growing in real time hopefully.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: You know, good friend of mine says evolve or repeat,
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean? And and and to add
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: and to add to that. The only time you should
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: be repeating the steps is in the process of evolution.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: No, Look, was this this? This cover is hard?
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: You like that?
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: Yes? So this was your idea?
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: I mean, I can't, I can't. I can't take all
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: the credit, you know what I mean? Shout out, shout
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: out the Neptune and her team fire. Where were we?
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: Where was you at?
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: Where we when we shot that?
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: You said where we were at?
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: Was okay in Pennsylvania?
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: Where we at? Yeah? Shout out to Yeah. So one
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: of the aries twins, you know what I mean. And Yanka,
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: you know, gave us an opportunity to you know, she
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: has a she has a beautiful home and scenery. So
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: so that's where we that's where we shot. That's where
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: we shot for the for the album. And then you
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: know the new look I did. I did a few
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: dope looks. And you follow me on Instagram, you can
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: see the rollout. Yeah, thank you for your style is
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: always I'm in a place in my life in the
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: artistry too. You gotta trust, you got to trust other
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: people like you can't be so you know, standoffish and
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: just like got to be open to two ideas and
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: trusting people with your art. You know, yeah, this is
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: definitely fine, you.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Know when it comes to trusting people with your art.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: Do you think like Quiet Storm music disappeared or did
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: like the industry just stop prioritizing.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: I think that I think for a period that the
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: industry stopped prioritizing, and I think that they saw firsthand
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: what happens to the game and to the music game
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: when you stop prioritizing and when you know, when you you,
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: you know, you chase the numbers instead of chasing the feeling,
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Like I say it all
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: the time, good batter and different people remember how you
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: made them feel? And Charlemagne, I'm just trying to make
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: them feel good with this music. I'm trying to make
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: them feel good when we touch the stages, you know,
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: when I'm on the air at night and we playing
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: that laylist, I want to make them feel good, you know,
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: And uh, and represent for the culture of what we do.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: And you know, and as a result of that, you know,
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: now history is repeating itself, you know what I mean.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: And when you stay true, when you stay true to
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: the art form of what you do, and it comes
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: back around. You know, the music gets the response that
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: it's getting right now. You know. It's why, it's why
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: Raheem Devone can be who he is, while you can
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: be who you are, while you can be who you are,
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: while Jill Scott is who she is, you know.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: What I mean.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: And uh, it's it's so, it's great. It's a lot
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: of great music out right now. Man, It's gonna be
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: a lot of great It's a lot of touring happening
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: right now.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: Shout out the flow a Tree, Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: yeah yeah. I'm gonna be joining them on the Say
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: Yes Tour along with the incomparable Tser Moses you know
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: what I mean. Tickets you know, are on sale now
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: for all major cities and more data being added.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: The New Day is the New Day is the first
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: show way, you know. So it's gonna be it's gonna
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: a time is gonna be had, man, you know, and uh,
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: you know that's what it's. It's culture. It's you know,
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: one thing about it, you know, whether whether whether you
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: know the ups and downs of it, the highs and lows.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: You know is nothing moves about that music. Nothing moves
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: without that music. And and you know for us as
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: artists who put so much into it, you know, from
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: paying for the studio time and trying to figure out
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: how to you know, organically go viral and all these
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: all these other components. You know, man, none of this.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: I was my first album came out in two thousand
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: and five. So to still be in the conversation. I
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: did my first record deal two thousand and two with
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: Job Records, you know what I mean. So to be
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: able to be still here and have that conversation, you know,
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: it's not It's not I make it look easy. It's
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: not easy though.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: You know it's interesting because the quirt storm choir storm
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: music has has like always sent it vulnerability, right absolutely,
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: How is your definition of masculinity evolved as you've continued
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: to make this choir storm music.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: Men are supposed to cry, you know what I mean?
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: Men that's supposed to be able to have a safe
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: space you know and there and their woman and their
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: partner to be able to to say what's going on?
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: You know. Uh. A few projects back, I put out
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: this record called Love the Pain Away and and and
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: you know it's I was speaking from a very vulnerable space.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: I had just lost my dad. You know, who's been,
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: who's been, who's passed. You know, it's been gone for
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: about three and some change now. And yeah, so so
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: so you know that that for me, that was the
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: groundbreaking moment, that that where I had to go where
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: I said, oh I need I need a therapist. I
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: need therapy. Before that, I was that guy who felt like,
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: oh maybe maybe it's for you and not for me.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: And and just like you know, and once you get
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: in there, you start getting the tools and doing the
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: homework and and and and then you realize and then
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: and then something happens. Because things have happened. Life be life.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: And but now you got these tools that allow you
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: to be able to to be proud about your vulnerability
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: and be able to identify your triggers and and the things,
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: because you know, who won't be walking around mad, dysfunctional, heartbroken, bitter,
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: you know, assuming the worst, all all the things that
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: that that create, you know, a toxic experience, you know
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: what I mean, not just for you, but somebody who's
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: trying to possibly love on you.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: And a lot of times people don't even realize that
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: they're stressed, or that they depress or that they need therapians.
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: That they get in there and they still doing the work,
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Absolutely know a lot of
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: people don't even feel like it's nothing.
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: Wrong with them, you know. So so for me, you know,
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: part of doing the work, it's been being on stage
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: but also off stage.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: Twenty twelve, I started my own foundation, the Love Life Foundation.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: You know, our focal points have been fighting domestic violence
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: and being able to identify what it is amongst adults
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: and teens, you know, feeding those that are displaced, you know,
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: shout out to Gilead scientists who I've had a three
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: year partnership with, you know, on HIV awareness, you know, prevention,
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: you know, treatment, conversations about PREP and you know, talking
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: to your primary care doctor, knowing knowing if it's for
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: you and what PREP is.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: And I saw that what made you want to do
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: that partnership?
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: Man?
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: You know, I mean I care about community.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: You know, so I won't get into I won't get
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: into into the numbers, but I'm sure that I'm sure
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: that you know, uh, I'll say this, you know, get tested,
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: know your status, you know, uh. And and and know
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: that there's light at the end of the tunnel, you know,
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: should you test positive. You know what I mean, that's
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: what you know treatment and you know prevention. But more importantly,
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: let's make sexual health conversations the new norm, you know
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: what I mean, along along with everything else. And then
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: you know, for more information on what I'm doing, you know,
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: with Gilead Sciences, you can log into you know, Gilead
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: dot com.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: But mental health has also been at the forefront of
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: our initiatives, as you know, going down to Congress and lobbying.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: You know, I've been very open and transparent about the
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: fact that I was my father's caregiver, you know, for
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: in a lot of part of the years of his life.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: You know how he struggled with schizophrenia for most of
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: his life, and mental health, and so you know, you
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: got to be able to identify the crisis when you
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: see it and know not the call nine one one
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: and know what number to call.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: We're still not having enough conversations aboutlophrenia, like you know,
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: I think that we're just starting to you know, of
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: course we deal with our anxiety and the depression and
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: even bipolar, but schizophrenia is something that I feel.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: It's the elephant in the room. You know, shout out
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: to all the churches, you know, whatever your faith is.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: But some things you can't pray away, you know what
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: I mean? Like that? You know, you know, you know
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: some things that require you know, therapy is going to
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: be required. You know, a doctors needs to intervene, and
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: medication is going to be necessary, you know. So you know,
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: just just as just as we break down the stigmas
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: you know of you know about HIV, you know, you
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: know there's a there's a there's a plethor of stigmas
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: that need to be broken down as it relates to
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: mental health and making that cool and having those conversations
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: and just being in the transparency. So you know, I'm
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: gonna continue to do the work with the foundation, I know.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: I know that's that's something that's that's important to you
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: as well. And if you know, if there's opportunities for
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: us to work together I'm going on the record to
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: say that we can absolutely do that. You know. Yeah,
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: I would love I would love to, Yeah, I would
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: love to be.
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: One of the things that people also don't talk about
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: usually is the people that take that have to take
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: care of, you know, the oh.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: For sure, because men listen like, you know, my dad's
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: last crisis, you know, and that's and that's when they
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: when they're off the meds for too long. You know,
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: the longer you off the meds, the more damage your causes,
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: you know, and and you risk the fact of going
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: completely like insane, right, So the last the last, the
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: last crisis in particularly like I'm in the middle of
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: the like tour, so I'm so I'm like, you know,
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: and then that's and and and it's something that it's
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: his personal business at the time, and and and and
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: uh so I'm like touring and flying in to Ohio
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: just jumping off of a plane like yeah, tired, it wears,
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: you know, you know, I'm I'm I'm literally in a
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: psych ward, you know what I mean, Like it's it's
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: it's and for whatever reason, I was the only I
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: was the only one to kind of always get him
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: back on track. You know what I mean, and he trusted,
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: you know, when he was in that paranoid state or
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: having an episode. So yeah, man, it's a It weighs
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: a lot on on on on on the family member
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: or members you know, and the ones who have to
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: you know, see it through. But that's what we do.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: You know that, you know, if you know, I would
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: hope that if I was in that position, that's what
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: family would do for me, My child would do for me,
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Have you found a way to express that through the art?
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel I feel like I feel like I
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: feel like I have and I'm still exploring that in
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: terms of the artist street. But but but but but
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: aside from that, I've found a way to do that,
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: to express that where it matters most, because you know,
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: on stage is cool, But the dopest thing is the
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: random acts of kindness that people don't see, yeah, or that,
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: or the things that that that aren't spoken on, you
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: know what I mean. So you know, I pride myself
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: and just you know, when I'm when I'm home and
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: I'm in the city and you know, and just doing
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: the work because I can't you know, I can't get
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: that time back with my dad.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: I can you know, I can pat myself on the
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: on the on the back and say, you know, great job,
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: you know, but at the end of the day, I
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: did what I was supposed to do. That's my parent
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Like you you're supposed to
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: That's what you're supposed to do, you know, for for
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: for for for family.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: You know, you think men are are finally allowed to
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: be like emotionally fluent in their art Are we still
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: kind of like unlearning emotional silence?
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: And I think we I think I think that I
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: think we are. Absolutely I think we're in that uh
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: we are and have been for some time. If it's
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: in the age of like, you can be who you
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: want to be, You can be who you are, love
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: who you love. You know, you know, have have no shame,
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: you know, as it relates to artistry for for for
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: our men and for our women in particular, who you know,
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: I can't imagine what it's like to be a woman,
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: but I know, I know, I know coming out in
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: the two thousands, what the stereotypes were, you know, you
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: know what I mean. Like, so you know, I never
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: thought that ship it should matter what you look like,
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: what the artists look like, or what they weigh or
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: you know, you know what I mean, or you know
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: what what what what?
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: What the preference is the women?
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what I mean, and all
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: the cosmetically challenges.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: R and B guys.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: Make jokes about how cosmetically challenge R and B singles were,
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: but the music was fine.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, so you know, but but but but it's again,
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: it's bringing full circles. It's a amazing to see how
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: and to see how everything is like coming back for
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: a circle. If you look out like the rollout there,
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: like you know Jake Cole's doing right now for example,
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean, along with along with the
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: digital real estate, like being outside physically with the merch
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: and you know, the success that I've always followed in
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: the footsteps of the hip hop artists. I mean, I
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: started doing mixtapes and jack and beats because of fifty
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: cent and the g Unit tapes. I started. You know,
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: I gave out the next Till Blowout phone number because
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: of Mike Jones on the mixtape. Yeah, you know what
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: I mean. So I was so I always watched to see,
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: you know, and moving around, you know, being you know,
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: when you when you're independent, you your own promo. So
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: you got to be outside, you know, Philly, New York,
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: LA and moving around, so you know, you naturally see
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: what's happening, you know, and what has the pulse on
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: the streets, you know. And so it's always been to
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: my advantage to I feel like to to you know,
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: as an R and B C singer, to to kind
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: of you know, tapping to that space.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: I was I'm glad you brought up Ja Cole, whuse
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: I was thinking about when you talked about the partnership with.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: Gilly.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: Did you hear J Cole's record Safety, Yeah, and how
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: he addressed his friend Yeah, Yeah, that was that was
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: one of the most introspective time I've ever heard. Yeah.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, man, yeah, I.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Always be wanting him to be more introspected.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: That was a very different approach that record. That record
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: in particular, it takes me. It takes me to Tonas
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: New York State or no, no, no one love excuse me. Yeah,
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: like you you know what I mean, Like it's it's
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: like that's J Cole's like one love moment, you know
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: what I mean, Very very very his his approach man
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: on that, on that versus crazy.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah did you I mean when you when you talked
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: about how he had regret because you know, his friend sexuality,
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: but also what really hit him was when his friend
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: passed away.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: Of yeah you know, I don't know, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: I mean it made me think, yeah, it may it
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: make you know, it makes you think, like you know
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: what I mean, Like I think, you know, I think,
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: but that's what music is, you know, it's it's it's
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: you know, it's transparency, you know, you know, for for
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: Quiet Storm Lover, for me in particular, like you know,
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: it's all slow jams. It's love. So it's no there's
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: no heartbreak records on there, you know, you know what
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: I mean. I feel like we got enough for that,
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: like you know, you know what I mean. But but
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: but to be able to you know, to make those
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: to make that, to make that, to make a body
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: of work like that, and then and then be able
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: to be you know, be able to be able to
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: do the work that I'm doing with Gilead, I think
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: it's you know, it's it's it's on brand, you know
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: what I mean. It's kind of like, you know, if
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: you're gonna if you if you're gonna, you know, push
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: the push the push the liquor. You know, you know,
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: you know in the club you're gonna do you do
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: the liquor endorsement. Don't don't put the car keys in
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: their hand. You know, you know, call it, you know,
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: do the partnership with with with lit for uber you
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: know what I mean? Like, yeah, so that's what's up.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: How do you measure success at this stage of your journey?
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: I measured success being able to sleep that night like
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: a baby. You know what I mean. I have to
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: putting in that hard work. You know what I mean,
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: knowing that I haven't compromised you know what's important to me,
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: my spirituality, my moral compasses. You know that that that
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: I don't feel like I'm like my soul has been
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: chipped away at you know what I mean, knowing that,
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: knowing that that you know I'm I'm I'm the boss.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: It's only it's only it's only one higher source of power,
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: you know than me, You know what I mean? And
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: and and and and knowing and knowing that, knowing knowing
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: knowing to listen to that intuition, those butterflies, that that
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: that that spidey sense. You know, that's the voice of God.
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, It's intuition, and uh yeah, man,
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: Like you know, it's the art. It's the art of reinvention,
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: reinventing myself, you know, and and just and and and consistency.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: A lot of times we just we we we chase.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: Sometimes we're trying to supersede the expectation of what we
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: did ten years ago or twenty years ago. But you
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: know that's where that practice comes in, you know, you know,
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: and those those late nights from just being in the
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: studio and just being a creature of habit and and
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: just genuinely and genuinely still being in love with it,
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like if I if I didn't,
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: if I didn't still love it, I wouldn't be doing it.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Let's get into a record, man, because you know, just
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: need to blow her nose because, like I mean, that
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: was so crazy, it was crazy.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: See what song you want to get into right here?
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: Oh man, look, let's get into Let's get it, you
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: know what, Let's let's get Let's get into the one
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: that's killing the charts right now. So you know, twenty
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: years ago I created this anthem you you which is
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: which is? Which? Now is a crazy research and resurgence
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: of it going viral right now, you know, shout to
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: all up and becoming artists right now, joining joining the
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: you know, uh, the verse challenge, the open verse challenge,
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: right and you know, I remade the record. I remade
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: my own song. You know, it wasn't just it just wasn't.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: It wasn't strictly just like you know, stroking my own ego.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: This wasn't This wasn't an ego stroke move or narcissistic move.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: This was this was also a business move because it
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: becomes a new master, you know what I mean that
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: that that that that that you know, that I can
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: control when it comes to like the licensing and not
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: having to check in, you know. And you know last
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: year I had big plans for the twenty year anniversary
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: album until I realized that, Okay, the rights haven't reverted,
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: you know, haven't reverted back to me yet. And for
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: the things that I want to do with my baby,
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: with these songs that I created many moons ago, I
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: bless you do it.
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: Again attention saying bless you the third time doing it?
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: Don't say no more.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So so so I realized, man, you gotta throw
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: them off my train talking about you.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: I said, man, you're talking about you the famasary just
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: for ego, you didn't do it.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: Just thank you forgiving me back on all right, Yeah,
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: I just so. So it was for business, it was
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: it was you know it, it's business. This time is business,
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: but it's also personal, you know what I mean. Like
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: I feel like the record didn't get to get get
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: to get to shine and deserve, you know what I mean.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: So you know, I got my bag up, I got
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: my focus, I got my team, you know what I mean.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: And we currently just we just cracked top thirty, like
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: twenty six today. Yeah, shout shout to la Ron you
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: know what I mean, product manager Gururu. We known each
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: other a long time. Brought me to brought me the
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: first first brother, bring me to Detroit. What I've done,
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Shout to Detroit. Yeah, strong,
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: strong market out there. Yeah. So, so I remade the
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: record and and and it's going it's going crazy. Got
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: live strings, new vocals, new production, still still.
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: The vibe and you still look the same.
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: Thank you, like thank you.
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: Definitely drinking from the fountain.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: Sneeze, sneeze your compliments upon me. You do really still
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: look good.
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: I'm like, damn, you know, they say blatant crap, but like, no,
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: like you, you really still look good.
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: I mean I might take one drink a year if that,
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So I don't drink. You know,
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: I haven't. I haven't smoked weed probably since what twenty
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: twenty COVID came smoking the blunts and the cipher.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: And you know what.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: I want to ask you long.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Ago before we get into you, the remaker, you our records.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: Really like babies, do you watch them grow up? And
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: you look at this?
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: I mean for me, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that's
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: a great way to kind of like look at it.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: You know, at some point you have this beautiful child
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: that you pour into, You put all this work into,
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: you have a lot of fun creating it, and then
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: and then the baby pop out. You know, you know
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: what I mean. You be like, shut your ass down.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: I love you, you know what I mean? And you and
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: you and then and then you and then be like
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: reminds me and me or you know you're be like
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: you mind you acting like your.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: Daddy right now?
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: You look like your daddy, and and then and and
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: and then and then they and then they become of
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: age and everything we've invested in into them now it
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: now it goes out into the world, and you know
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: what I mean. And you know, at some point hopefully
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: you become a grandparent right in the offspring, and you
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: know what I mean. So, I mean, you know, I
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: think about on a serious note, like how many, how many,
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: how many babies been conceived to a good slow jam
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: of mind, you know, or to those songs that we
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: love and hear, you know in the choet song. So yeah,
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: so so absolutely, you know what I mean. So, but
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: it wasn't easy remaking my own song. I'll tell you that.
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: What was all about it?
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think it was, you know, one I've
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: grown as a vocalist. So you're in there trying to
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: capture You're in there trying to capture this feelings that
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: you that you created that you can't you can't recreate
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: it because it's a magical, you know, I do you
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: know it's literally if you know, you know, it's a download.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Can you grow your own sound? Can you'll grow your
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: own talent?
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: Only only only if you're growing in a positive way. Absolutely,
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: I'm not the vocalist I was twenty years ago. I
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: can humbly say that I've gotten better. You know, in
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: the studio, my mind is sharper.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: I'm more.
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: I'm more of a perfectionist now, you know. I can.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: I can hear things in the album that were like
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: where you know, where a track wasn't cleaned up all
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: the way. My ears are better, you know what I mean.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: I'm more, I'm more intuitive, you know what I mean?
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: And I and I and I'm more. I care more,
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: like not that I didn't care then, but I care more,
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: you know. So It's never gonna be perfect, right, But
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: you know my approach to music is that if I
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: can't feel it, you know, if I can't step outside
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: of myself as a creator that made it and feel
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: it than somebody else is you know what, then it's
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: not gonna If it's not moving me, then it's not
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: it's not gonna move you. You know what I'm saying.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: I think for I think for sure that like we
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: got there's some things that we won't get into, the
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: names and the genres and things, but like you hear
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: it and you be like, come on, man, I know
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: you didn't feel this. Somebody put you in to me,
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: Somebody made some an R told you needed to do it,
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: like you know what I mean like and you know,
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: so you just gotta you know, as an artist, you
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: gotta know. You better know who you are getting into this.
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: That was one of the things that that that I
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: that I that I understood coming into it before I signed,
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: you know, the contract in two thousand and two, you
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: know what I mean, which I got out of. I
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: got myself out of and you know too in twenty
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: and ten, you know, I mean, it been independent every
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: six So yeah, it's it's it's it's it's you know,
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: that's it. You better know who you better? You better know?
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: Do you like the first? You better? The original? You
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: better than the real? Because you gotta think about it.
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: Tank did the same thing on R and B Money,
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: Like he remade like three of his old right, and
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: it's it's it's debatable to me. I like the newer one.
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: I'm not you know what. I ain't gonna hold you
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: what you think. I absolutely love the new version better
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: like like I like like I walked away like once
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: it was mastered, it got the live strings on it,
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: and just like I walked away from it being like, damn,
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: I'm about to remake everything whenever about the time they
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: listen to that, by the time they listen to the birthday,
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: it's gonna feel like a it's gonna feel like a demo,
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean? And then you know and
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: and and again why not if you can do it?
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Why not?
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: Because because you know it's about ownership, you know, being
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: able to being able to be able to own that
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: master and not happen to be able to go and
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: not having to check in with somebody about your baby.
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: Having a check in with somebody about your baby. Oh man,
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: there's no feeling worse than that something that you put
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: the hard work into, the blood, sweat tis and did
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: somebody tell you no, you can't put that out unless
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: I say you can. Man, Come on, it's always a
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: way you figure it out. And that's why you got
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: to get your n f C.
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: And I got the first.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah we got to sign one for Charlamagne and leave
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: one for Envy. But but yeah, that's you know, that's
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: you know that that that you know, the digital real
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: estate and and and all the things do not matter
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: if you ain't if you don't have that ownership you
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: got you are you locked into that three sixty deal?
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: You got to check in. People still sign three sixty man,
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: People still sign the three sixty deals.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: You think they're not, but niggas still not reading. Really
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: they know I am. I'm not asking.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: I was asking.
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: You know what he becoming at us Yo, me and
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: you Ryan, I got because we're part of the d
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: m V. We went.
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: What pa that's together?
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: They got nothing DV okay rahiem Devon Man, thank you
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: for joining us, brother Quiet Storm level ball one.
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you, thank you, thank you so much for
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: having me.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: Appreciate you. Man. Let's get into you right now. Introduce
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: the record.
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: Brother, Yeah, you know what it is. You know who
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: I am. You know what I do. So love King
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: of so On R and B Radio, Rahim Devine aka
• 44:12
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• 44:16
  Speaker 3: You the twenty year anniversary edition right here on the
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: Breakfast Club.
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: You dig.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: I like that.
• 44:27
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• 44:29
  Speaker 3: Clicks up the Breakfast Club.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: Finish for y'all. Dump