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- 0:09You're listening to The Hidden Lightness on America Out Loud Talk Radio.
- 0:12I'm your host, Jimmy Hinton.
- 0:14Well, there's more good news when it comes to the economy.
- 0:17And top economists are saying that the economy is actually booming.
- 0:23And it is set for a really big boom.
- 0:26It's going to continue to grow.
- 0:28And this, of course, is good news.
- 0:31Kevin Hassett forecast a 4% growth in our economy in the short term.
- 0:41He's also talking about data that reflects long-term investment in manufacturing equipment.
- 0:48And there is not a weaker demand.
- 0:51This is actually driving it up.
- 0:52So he's forecasting a 4% growth and says that the artificial intelligence boom and the tax incentives are driving U.S.
- 1:03investment surges.
- 1:05This is really, really good news, especially given the fact that we have a lot of debt.
- 1:13And I talk about this often because it's so important.
- 1:34And the article is, are your kids stressed about family finances?
- 1:39Psychologists offer answers for addressing anxiety over tight budgets.
- 1:44And this was in 2023, actually three years ago now.
- 1:50And I think things have gotten a lot harder for a lot of people.
- 1:55That's because of inflation.
- 1:56We know that inflation has kept creeping up higher and higher.
- 2:01Wages haven't kept up.
- 2:04And people are spending money like they've never spent it before.
- 2:09It's really, really out of control.
- 2:12And people have got to get a grip on this.
- 2:15So that's why I talk about this often, because it is a major, major stress.
- 2:21In fact, it's the leading reason, according to some research, the number one reason why people divorce.
- 2:30It's over money issues, the stress of money.
- 2:34It brings a lot of stress into your family.
- 2:37Any of us who have been there, I've been there before, and I vowed, my wife and I both, we vowed that we would get out of debt as quickly as possible and begin building wealth.
- 2:54We have zero debt whatsoever.
- 2:57And we're in our mid-40s and have no debt at all.
- 3:03And so we're very aggressively building wealth.
- 3:07And this is kind of the Ramsey way, but uh I know that he kind of lays claim to that, but he's not the only one by long shot who believes in paying off debt and using your money.
- 3:21In fact, Kevin O'Leary, he's been talking about this for decades, and many, many others.
- 3:28And of course, there are different schools of thought.
- 3:30There's some who say that debt is fine as long as you're using it to build wealth.
- 3:36Uh, but again, I'm I'm not smart enough to do that.
- 3:40And uh, and I just don't like taking the risk.
- 3:43Quite honestly, some people don't mind the risk.
- 3:47I don't want to take that risk.
- 3:49I have no desire.
- 3:50Zero none nada.
- 3:53So it is a major, major cause of stress in marriages.
- 3:58It's a major cause of stress in families.
- 4:01It's a major cause of stress, even for kids because they feel the weight of that.
- 4:07And the kids, they know whenever you're struggling in debt, they can feel it.
- 4:13And this article is really excellent.
- 4:16I want to read a little bit of this.
- 4:17Um, whether from a recent job loss, the added cost of inflation, or longer-term challenges, families dealing with financial strain might find themselves faced with several worries.
- 4:29What's the best way to discuss financial limits as a family without stressing out children?
- 4:35How can parents support children's well-being while taking care of their own?
- 4:41Financial problems are one of the most stressful things that can happen to a family, and they're also very common, said Catherine Grant, PhD, a professor of psychology at DePaul University, who studies ways to protect children from the negative effects of stress.
- 5:00Children are more likely to face mental health problems if they grow up in a family that is low income or has significant debt.
- 5:08Factors with long-term consequences, psychologists say.
- 5:13Kids report feeling stressed and anxiety, guilt for not being able to help, embarrassed about being unable to afford what their peers can, and on and on it goes.
- 5:50The number two thing that I talk about is faith.
- 5:54Now you would think that that would be reversed, but my experience has been that people can work through faith issues easier than they can work through money issues.
- 6:05If they disagree on faith, they can work through those issues.
- 6:10Now it's not easy, it's a lot of work, but when they disagree on money, that affects everything about their day-to-day lives.
- 6:22It creates negative feelings towards each other, it creates a sense of division.
- 6:31And so forth.
- 6:35In fact, it's essential that people agree, or at least somewhat agree, preferably they would completely agree on how to manage your money, but a lot of people don't.
- 6:48And I've seen this time and time again, where people point the finger and they say, well, my spouse is the spender, and I I tried to budget and they just spend all the money.
- 7:01Well, that's a problem.
- 7:01Well, that's a problem.
- 7:03And I do agree with Ramsey on this.
- 7:03And I do agree with Ramsey on this.
- 7:06I agree with him when he says that your money is not your money, it's our money.
- 7:06I agree with him when he says that your money is not your money, it's our money.
- 7:13When you're married, there is no my money and your money.
- 7:13When you're married, there is no my money and your money.
- 7:18It's all combined.
- 7:18It's all combined.
- 7:20It's both of your money.
- 7:20It's both of your money.
- 7:23And it doesn't matter if one person works and the other person stays home.
- 7:23And it doesn't matter if one person works and the other person stays home.
- 7:28It doesn't matter if you both work and one person.
- 7:28It doesn't matter if you both work and one person makes 20,000 and the other makes 120,000.
- 7:34It's all your money.
- 7:36And even legally, it's all your money.
- 7:40So whenever we play those games, like, oh, well, I deserve this because I work more hours than my spouse, and you go out and you overspend, you overextend yourself, it puts a lot of strain on that marriage.
- 7:52It puts a lot of strain on your kids.
- 7:54And it's it really has negative impacts on the entire family dynamics.
- 8:02So here's the advice from psychologists on how to best support kids in times of financial hardship.
- 8:09And again, my wife and I went through, we went through a period where we nearly lost our house.
- 8:17In fact, I wrote about that in my book, Tithing Your Time, Treasure, and Talent.
- 8:22A practical guide to biblical budgeting and investing.
- 8:26I wrote about how we nearly lost our house.
- 8:29The math wasn't mathing.
- 8:36When my wife lost her job, we didn't see a way out.
- 8:39We didn't see a way that we could keep up with our mortgage and all the utilities and all the other bills.
- 8:46And we had overextended ourselves because we bought our house based on a dual income.
- 8:54And we both knew what the incomes were.
- 8:56Well, you remove one of those incomes.
- 8:58Let me tell you, that changes things really quickly.
- 9:01I mean, very abruptly.
- 9:04So we really struggled, and we ended up uh really tightening up our belts.
- 9:11And she was able to get another job, making much less money, less than half what she made before, but it was something, and we worked through it.
- 9:22Not only did we work through it, but uh, she's actually still at the same job, and that's been 13 years ago.
- 9:29She's still at the same job.
- 9:31We've since paid the house off.
- 9:33We've paid uh all of our other debt, which wasn't much, it was just the the purchase of a vehicle, but that's all paid off.
- 9:42And we knew what that stress felt like.
- 9:45We felt that stress.
- 9:48It was hard on our marriage, it was hard on our kids.
- 9:52And it's just really, really challenging.
- 9:55But a lot of people are stuck there, and they blame the system.
- 10:00Well, the system is rigged against us.
- 10:03They blame companies.
- 10:06Well, if these stupid uh greedy oil companies wouldn't charge so much money, right?
- 10:14They they blame everybody else instead of taking responsibility.
- 10:18And yes, things are expensive.
- 10:21Utilities are expensive, cars are expensive, houses are expensive.
- 10:26But we don't have to buy the brand new latest model car.
- 10:32Uh we don't have to buy a house that that makes us house poor.
- 10:38You know, there are other, there are other alternatives, and you can be really, really creative.
- 10:45So anyway, that's another story for another day.
- 10:49So here is the advice from psychologists.
- 10:51How do you best support your kids in times of financial hardship?
- 10:55Number one, be proactive.
- 10:57Having less money for clothes, toys, and activities that can interfere with a sense of togetherness that make kids feel connected to their peers.
- 11:07Kids with fewer possessions might feel embarrassed or worry about being teased, said Amanda J.
- 11:13Rose, PhD, a professor of psychological studies at the University of Missouri, Columbia.
- 11:21If teasing becomes recurrent or rises to the level of bullying, seek help from a school counselor, teacher, or administrator.
- 11:30First of all, man, if kids are picking on other kids because they're poor, shame on those parents, number one.
- 11:40Um if the parents know, if the parents have created that, shame on them for that.
- 11:47But number two, uh there's just no room for bullying.
- 11:55It's no fault of the kids when they're living in poverty.
- 12:00Uh, it is not the fault of the kids.
- 12:04And so I would hope that we all train our kids that if we see other kids being picked on for any reason.
- 12:13But if kids are being picked on, our kids should intervene.
- 12:17I hope that we train our kids to do that because it's really, really important.
- 12:22Uh, but I can tell you this.
- 12:24Kids really don't care.
- 12:27At the end of the day, they don't care how much money mom and dad have.
- 12:31What they care about is spending time together as a family.
- 12:36You know, there are times where we grew up really poor, and I didn't know that at the time when I was a kid, I had no idea.
- 12:44I didn't know that we couldn't afford groceries for the week.
- 12:48I didn't know that because my parents didn't talk about that.
- 12:53And us kids, we just loved going outside.
- 12:56We love playing in the woods, and we we just love to be an active and playing basketball and it just running around acting crazy like a kid.
- 13:07That's what kids want.
- 13:10That's what kids long for.
- 13:13That's what kids desire, not the possessions, not the things they honestly could care less about them.
- 13:20So, yeah, be proactive.
- 13:22Talk to your kids.
- 13:23Hang out with your kids, spend time with your kids.
- 13:26Number two, ask kids about their emotions.
- 13:31When kids pick up on financial stress in the family, they may be anxious about getting the items they need, feel guilty for needing things, or think that the problems are their fault.
- 13:42Younger children may show signs of physical distress, including stomach aches or trouble sleeping.
- 13:49Other symptoms can include anxiety, anger, stubborn behavior.
- 13:55And so, yeah, talk to your kids about their emotions.
- 13:58What are they feeling?
- 13:59What are they, what are they going through?
- 14:00What are they going through?
- 14:02What's going on inside of their head space?
- 14:02What's going on inside of their head space?
- 14:05Number three, explain the problem and the plan.
- 14:05Number three, explain the problem and the plan.
- 14:10Research on stress and children suggests that a positive proactive framing can help put kids at ease.
- 14:10Research on stress and children suggests that a positive proactive framing can help put kids at ease.
- 14:18Start by calmly conveying the situation and explaining what action you're taking.
- 14:18Start by calmly conveying the situation and explaining what action you're taking.
- 14:24We don't have as much money as we'd like to, but we have a plan that will help.
- 14:24We don't have as much money as we'd like to, but we have a plan that will help.
- 14:30All right.
- 14:31Kids, kids aren't dumb.
- 14:33They pick up on these things.
- 14:34Kids are actually very smart and very intuitive.
- 14:39If you're stressed out, they're stressed out.
- 14:42They know that you're stressed out.
- 14:44So talk to them.
- 14:46Explain the problem and tell them what your plan is.
- 14:49And if you don't have a plan, get a plan.
- 14:54I think about the what's the the uh the Will Smith movie, The Pursuit of Happiness or something like that.
- 15:03That that was an excellent, excellent movie.
- 15:05He was a homeless guy, and he was open with he was open and honest with his kid.
- 15:11Uh I I think is really cool.
- 15:14Uh number next, reframe the problem.
- 15:18For most types of stress, psychologists recommend using active, engaged coping strategies rather than ignoring the problem at hand.
- 15:28When money is tight, involving kids in a family's financial plan can help them feel like they're taking action, said Rose.
- 15:35That may mean uh making joint decisions about spending and saving.
- 15:41You know, this is a really good point.
- 15:43Uh, we talk about money all the time with our kids.
- 15:45I mean, all the time.
- 15:47And we're very transparent.
- 15:51Our kids know what's in our savings account, they know what's in our retirement account, they know what's in their accounts.
- 15:58We're very, very honest about it.
- 16:01And the kids help make decisions.
- 16:05And it's really great.
- 16:06It's really fantastic.
- 16:08And our kids, they they they begin to budget and they budget their own money and they make their own money.
- 16:16And they want to make their money, they want to invest, they love to invest, they love to watch their money grow.
- 16:23And it's really good for them to see the ups and the downs in the stock market and to be able to experience that and to take ownership and making those decisions.
- 16:34And a lot of families don't do that, unfortunately.
- 16:37And I think it's just really important.
- 16:39I think it's good to give them responsibility.
- 16:41It's good to teach them how to save.
- 16:45It's good to teach them how to save up to uh to make a purchase instead of just clicking a credit card or tapping it and and just giving them whatever they want.
- 16:56You've got to get ownership with your kids.
- 16:58Well, we're coming up on a break here.
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- 18:18Well, did you see Google quietly updated its AI principles removing its pledge not to use AI for weapons or surveillance?
- 18:28A promise they agreed to in 2018.
- 18:31Well, the American people have seen Google's track record.
- 18:35Is Google and on trustworthy player in the AI race.
- 18:43Now is our time, my fellow Americans.
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- 18:59As we mentioned before the break, Kevin Hassett forecast, he's a top economist.
- 19:06He forecasts a 4% growth in the American economy and says that artificial intelligence, uh, that boom and the tax incentives, they're driving US investments to absolutely surge.
- 19:20And this is really good news for America.
- 19:23This is really good news for us.
- 19:24And uh I I mention this all the time that our economy is very resilient, that our economy is doing well, that there are millions of vacant jobs right now, lots of vacant jobs right now.
- 19:40And I I just think it's really good for all of us.
- 19:46A lot of people are out there struggling and and uh not really uh holding on to hope, thinking that our economy is is in the gutter because they listen to the narratives, they listen to these ideas that we're absolutely stuck, that we're in trouble, that Trump has wrecked the economy, and it's just not true.
- 20:07Um the economy has ups and downs, there are ebbs and flows, businesses come and businesses go.
- 20:17That's very normal in any given economy.
- 20:22But overall, the economy's doing quite well.
- 20:29I I was mentioning this before the break.
- 20:32It's because money finances the stress of money and finances, the stress of not having a job or being stuck at a job or not being able to budget correctly, or whatever it is, it puts tremendous stress on the entire family.
- 20:53So I was reading from an article here before the break, and uh that they were talking about ways to to talk to your kids, and I'll just kind of go through these really quickly again.
- 21:00To talk to your kids.
- 21:01And I'll just kind of go through these really quickly again.
- 21:04Uh I'll just rattle them off.
- 21:04I'll just rattle them off.
- 21:06Number one, be proactive.
- 21:06Number one, be proactive.
- 21:09You know, uh uh talk to your kids.
- 21:09You know, uh, talk to your kids.
- 21:12Don't just pretend like the elephant's not in the room.
- 21:12Don't just pretend like the elephant's not in the room.
- 21:16Number two, ask your kids about their emotions.
- 21:16Number two, ask your kids about their emotions.
- 21:20How do they feel?
- 21:20How do they feel?
- 21:21How are they coping with the fact that you may be struggling at the moment?
- 21:21How are they coping with the fact that you may be struggling at the moment?
- 21:28Number three, explain the problem.
- 21:28Number three, explain the problem and the plan.
- 21:31I love this because a lot of times people talk about problems, plural.
- 21:38They talk about problems, and they do this stuff in front of the kids, but they never talk about a solution.
- 21:45And we've made that a habit in our family.
- 21:48I mean, it is a big time habit.
- 21:52If there's a problem, we always talk about what a solution is.
- 21:56And sometimes problems don't have solutions, at least not in the uh not in the near future that you can see anyway, but we're honest about that too.
- 22:10If we don't see a plan, we talk about a mini plan, and we're like, well, we'll use this as a stepping stone, and we're eventually gonna get there.
- 22:20All right, explain the problem and the plan.
- 22:25Number four, reframe the problem.
- 22:30For a lot of stress, the psychologists recommend using active engaged coping strategies rather than ignoring the problem.
- 22:41Number five, ask for help.
- 22:46Seeking social support, which includes everything from emotional care to help with everyday tasks.
- 22:53It's one of the most effective ways to cope with stress.
- 22:57Get support from friends, neighbors, family, therapists.
- 23:01Uh, don't be afraid to ask people for help.
- 23:04A lot of times we are what we may be ashamed, but sometimes we just need help.
- 23:11And I think it's okay to talk to other people and ask them, ask people who've been through the ringer, ask them what worked for them.
- 23:19That was another reason why I wanted to rate the book that I wrote to to be transparent about the problems that we have.
- 23:25I don't have it all figured out.
- 23:28Most of us don't.
- 23:31Tithing your time, treasure and talent.
- 23:35It's about the struggles that we had, saying that we nearly lost our home, and we still have very mediocre paying jobs.
- 23:45We have no benefits, uh, none, zero.
- 23:50There's no retirement, there's no health care.
- 23:55And yet, not only did we make it, we paid off debt, and we're building wealth very aggressively.
- 24:05In fact, to the point where we're looking at early retirement.
- 24:10And that's not accidental.
- 24:11And that's what that's what people need to realize.
- 24:15You know, you have to look at opportunities that are in front of you, and you have to take advantage of those.
- 24:21You have to take advantage of opportunities.
- 24:26And if we're not doing that, we shouldn't be surprised.
- 24:32We shouldn't be shocked whenever we're struggling.
- 24:38So it's really, really important.
- 24:40I mean, all of these things are important.
- 24:42So I was looking at another article here, and this uh that this one I actually heard from a guy who I follow and really respect, but he brought up the figure about the amount of debt that people are in with car loans, and it keeps getting worse by the minute.
- 25:00And this is not to be negative or to be an alarmist, but it's tound a warning bell, and to let everybody know that people are absolutely destroying, destroying their mental well-being by getting into debt with our car loans.
- 25:25And for what?
- 25:28That's for a vehicle that's gonna wear out in five to eight years.
- 25:34Yeah, the the average car payment now is well over five years, and for a lot of people, they're pushing that up into seven or more years.
- 25:46I mean, that's like the lifespan of your car now.
- 25:50But the amount of debt that people have taken out on car loans, it reached an all-time high just this year.
- 25:59It's never been this high.
- 26:021.68 trillion dollars that Americans have in car loans.
- 26:08Car loan debt.
- 26:11So this article here is when the wheels come off.
- 26:14How surging auto loan debt is hurting households.
- 26:19This was just posted uh a couple days ago.
- 26:25Over the past several years, American households have been crushed under the growing burden of debt.
- 26:31And few areas, this is more evident than in the realm of auto financing, where families have been struggling with rising car prices, rising interest rates, longer loan terms, and increasingly expensive maintenance and insurance costs.
- 26:48Borrowers are facing rising costs imposed at every phone of transaction from inflated automaker prices to shady dealer terms.
- 27:00I've done a couple shows on that.
- 27:04The cheap kind of sucker punch dealer terms that they sneak in there, a bunch of shysters.
- 27:16Uh, it's just crazy.
- 27:18It's getting worse and worse.
- 27:20So we need to be aware of those things.
- 27:23Uh, two costlier loan products.
- 27:27Moreover, President Trump's aggressive tariffs and chaos have caused inflated interest rates, driving prices even higher.
- 27:36Now, President Trump's war with Iran has set gas prices surging with a price of crude oil peaking at 112 per barrel in early April, translating to an average price of $4.54 per gallon at the pump for Americans at the time of publication.
- 27:55Well, as of this morning, I got gas in our gas-guzzling minivan, and I spent 83 to fill up.
- 28:00In our gas guzzling minivan.
- 28:04And I spent $83 to fill up.
- 28:10It's a $21 gallon tank.
- 28:10It's a 21 gallon tank, and I spent 83.
- 28:13And I spent $83.
- 28:16I paid $499.9 a gallon.
- 28:16I paid 49.9 five bucks a gallon.
- 28:25It is now five dollars a gallon.
- 28:25It is now $5 a gallon.
- 28:27And you know, again, my wife and I.
- 28:27And again, my wife and I budget for that.
- 28:30So it's it's annoying, but it's absolutely not hurting us.
- 28:38It's just a nuisance.
- 28:40But for other people, when you're carrying a car payment, you're carrying a, you know, the average is over $700 a month car payment for seven years.
- 28:53A lot of people driving big old SUVs and pickup trucks.
- 29:00They're putting in well over $100 to fill up their tank at least once a week.
- 29:08In addition to their car payments.
- 29:09So you're talking just for that vehicle, just for gas and your car payment.
- 29:17You're talking well over $1,000 a month than factor in insurance.
- 29:23And all the other maintenance, oil changes, tires, on and on and on.
- 29:27You get the picture.
- 29:29That adds up really quickly.
- 29:31And a lot of people don't factor the the all the cost in.
- 29:36They just buy a car because they think it's cool.
- 29:38They think it's shiny and it's great and it's it's going to make them look cool.
- 29:43And they come to find out pretty quickly.
- 29:46Geopolitical issues can change everything on the dime.
- 29:52No pun intended.
- 29:55But it changes quickly, doesn't it?
- 29:58So anyway, this article here.
- 30:02It says all of these trends together have made purchasing and maintaining a car increasingly expensive.
- 30:09As a result, has households have been taking on more and more debt to finance what is for many a basic necessity.
- 30:19No analysis by the Century Foundation and Protect Borrowers reveals how this historically high auto debt is negatively impacting household budgets.
- 30:30Building on a worsening affordability crisis.
- 30:34So the key findings in this article are uh just kind of blow through these bullet points real quick.
- 30:42Auto debt has exploded both in absolute terms and as a share of household debt.
- 30:50As I mentioned, that the the auto debt has reached $1.68 trillion, a 37% jump since early 2018.
- 31:03And now comprises the largest volume of outstanding loan debt ever recorded.
- 31:10At the end of 2025, nearly 86 million Americans.
- 31:1728% have outstanding auto loan or lease debt.
- 31:25That is wild.
- 31:28Um next bullet point.
- 31:33Auto debt appears to accelerate household financial strain.
- 31:38You think borrowers carrying auto loans see significantly higher and faster credit card balance growth, regardless of income level, suggesting that auto debt cascades into broader financial pressure.
- 32:03It's because your car is a money pit.
- 32:08It's because things always go wrong.
- 32:12Even on brand new cars, there are always things going wrong with it.
- 32:16There are always minor little little dings that you get, scratches, club in a curb and you bend a wheel or you scratch a wheel.
- 32:27Stuff that's not covered by your insurance, but you have to get it fixed.
- 32:36They break down.
- 32:37Cars are increasingly junk.
- 32:41I talk about this all the time.
- 32:43Cars are garbage.
- 32:46Most of them.
- 32:48What used to be respectable auto companies are now turning out absolute garbage.
- 32:53GM, Ford, Dodge.
- 32:58All the major ones, they're turning out most of their cars, are absolute crap.
- 33:04They break down constantly.
- 33:06I mean, obsessively, they break down.
- 33:10Costing the consumer time, a lot of money.
- 33:16Insurance companies only cover or the dealers will only cover a rental for a very, very short amount of time, usually about a week or so.
- 33:25You might stretch them into a couple weeks, but your car's down sometimes for months at a time.
- 33:33All right, point number three.
- 33:35New auto loans are staggering, uh staggeringly more expensive than ever before.
- 33:42At the end of 2025, the average origination balance for an auto loan reaches 33,519, an amount 10,000 higher than the average in 2018 due to massive increases in the price of even the most basic cars and a shortage of affordable car models.
- 34:05Interest rates are also much higher.
- 34:10Point number four, financially vulnerable borrowers have the highest costs.
- 34:20Those in the bottom 20% of the income distribution had the highest average auto loan balance.
- 34:274,000 higher for higher uh than for higher income borrowers.
- 34:34Those in the top quintile.
- 34:37Borrowers with the most limited access to credit pay a steep penalty for these borrowers.
- 34:42The average APR is up to 18.7%, which means a six-year loan on a 30,000 car will cost $20,000 in interest alone.
- 34:56This is insane.
- 34:58That is absolutely wild to me.
- 35:00Wild to me.
- 35:02That people are paying $20,000 just on interest on a car.
- 35:02That people are paying $20,000 just on interest on a car.
- 35:07$20,000.
- 35:07$20,000.
- 35:08Do you know what you could do with that if you invested that?
- 35:08Do you know what you could do with that if you invested that?
- 35:11That is wild.
- 35:11That is wild.
- 35:13And then finally, families are turning to risky loans with longer terms to drive down monthly auto costs.
- 35:13And then finally, families are turning to risky loans with longer terms to drive down monthly auto costs.
- 35:20Isn't it amazing that we'd rather do that?
- 35:20Isn't it amazing that we'd rather do that?
- 35:23We'd rather take risky loans.
- 35:23We'd rather take risky loans.
- 35:25We'd rather take longer terms.
- 35:25We'd rather take longer terms.
- 35:27We'd rather pay $20,000 in.
- 35:27We'd rather pay $20,000 in interest rather than just buy then just buy a cheaper vehicle.
- 35:36Because we don't want to be seen driving the cheaper vehicle.
- 35:42It's crazy.
- 35:43So this is really hurting people.
- 35:45So all of this to say, these are just warnings.
- 35:49Um saying that even if these jobs are available, and they are, believe me, the economy's good, the economy's strong, jobs are good, but people are living on this fine line.
- 36:01They're living right on the very edge.
- 36:04Even top earners, they live this way.
- 36:07I mentioned before Jim Carrey went back to work.
- 36:10He came out of retirement because he said he couldn't afford his lifestyle.
- 36:16Even multimillionaires are living right on the edge of what they can't afford.
- 36:25And it's really hurting people.
- 36:32One tragedy away from losing everything.
- 36:35We shouldn't be living that way.
- 36:38It's too risky.
- 36:39There is a better way, and we'll talk about this after the break, but it is good news, trust me.
- 36:44There is lots and lots of good news, but I felt like I had to put these warnings out there.
- 36:50Just to say, like most Americans are living this way.
- 36:54And so we shouldn't live like most of those Americans.
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- 38:55The economy is doing really good.
- 38:57It's growing.
- 38:58There are plenty of jobs available.
- 39:01Kevin has it forecast of 4% growth.
- 39:05Things are looking up.
- 39:07Florida's looking really good.
- 39:08Florida has uh tons of people moving to Florida because of the tax incentives.
- 39:17People are leaving New York City, New York State like crazy in droves they're leaving.
- 39:24California and New York have an exodus of people.
- 39:29I just saw an article.
- 39:33I mean, they're coming out left and right now.
- 39:35But Mamdani keeps doing more things to cause this exodus to even speed up further.
- 39:44I'm telling you, New York City is gonna be, it's gonna be a vacant concrete jungle before too long.
- 39:53If he keeps doing what he's doing, it is gonna be such a dump until he's through with it.
- 39:59And it's a shame.
- 40:00It's a shame to see that.
- 40:02But the people who are leaving New York, they're finding better opportunity.
- 40:09They're much better off.
- 40:11People are finding uh uh tax incentives that they never even knew existed.
- 40:18Their businesses are thriving.
- 40:21Yeah, Florida welcoming people with open arms.
- 40:25And uh Texas, same thing.
- 40:27Texas is welcoming people with open arms.
- 40:31And I think it's really good.
- 40:34Uh we have to resist all of this nonsense.
- 40:41That that whole mindset that we gotta tax the rich, make them pay their fair share.
- 40:48That stifles growth.
- 40:51That doesn't help to grow.
- 40:55So at any rate, here is the article here.
- 40:58Hassett forecasts 4% growth, says AI boom and tax incentives driving U.S.
- 41:05investment surge.
- 41:07This is a Fox business article.
- 41:11Uh, Wall Street's rally is increasingly being tied to a mix of artificial intelligence investment, corporate tax incentives, and a wave of factory construction reshaping the U.S.
- 41:24economy.
- 41:25White House National Economic Council director, Kevin Hassett, joined Fox Business Maria.
- 41:35I don't know how you say your last name.
- 41:38Um Barta Romo, there we go.
- 41:43Uh, on mornings with Maria to discuss why he believes the economy is entering a new growth phase driven by capital spending.
- 41:53AI productivity gains in tax policies aimed at accelerating domestic manufacturing.
- 42:00The bottom line is that there's an AI productivity boom, which is feeding through to an earnings boom.
- 42:00The bottom line is that there's an AI productivity boom, which is feeding through to an earnings boom.
- 42:11The comments come as companies pour billions into U.S.
- 42:11The comments come as companies pour billions into US based expansion projects tied to semiconductors, artificial intelligence infrastructure, and advanced manufacturing.
- 42:15based expansion projects tied to semiconductors, artificial intelligence infrastructure, and advanced manufacturing.
- 42:23Hassett pointed to major investments from multinational firms, including.
- 42:23Hassett pointed to major investments from multinational firms, including Navardis and Taiwan semiconductor manufacturing company, also known as TSMC, as signs the U.S.
- 42:40has become the hot place to be right now.
- 42:43Now you've heard Trump say this for a long time.
- 42:45He keeps saying the economy's hot, the economy's hot.
- 42:49And a lot of times it's it's really hard to tell whether he's just blowing smoke or whether it actually is.
- 42:57But it turns out that the economy actually is really hot right now.
- 43:02And there's lots of evidence to back this up.
- 43:04A lot of reports.
- 43:07I mentioned at the end of last week, the private sector added 109,000 jobs in April, which is much above expectations, according to the ADP.
- 43:20There are plenty of jobs out there.
- 43:22500,000 electricians are needed in the next two years.
- 43:30The problem is we don't have enough workers.
- 43:32We don't have enough trained workers.
- 43:50That's not the problem.
- 43:52The problem is quite the opposite.
- 43:56The problem is, and you wouldn't know this talking to politicians on the left.
- 44:03Because all they talk about is how bad Trump is.
- 44:06He's bad for the economy, he's bad for the world economy, he's bad for our allies.
- 44:12On and on and on it goes.
- 44:20So he said there's uh this is Hassett, there's a race unlike anything we've ever seen to create jobs in America right now.
- 44:28Now, the warning about this is, and I I talk about Mike Rowe quite often because I think he's just absolutely brilliant.
- 44:40But he said, don't let the job availability blindside us.
- 44:46Because he's like, we we still we still need people.
- 44:51He's like, you can have all the jobs in the world, but if you don't have people to fill those jobs, we've got a really big problem.
- 44:59So we need people to go into these fields.
- 45:02That's why it's really important, I believe.
- 45:04It's important that as parents, we talk to our kids, grandparents, caretakers, teachers, guidance counselors.
- 45:13We all need to be talking to our kids about not just college, but I would say especially the trades.
- 45:24Yeah, and some of these jobs require, they require education.
- 45:28Now, I was looking the other day, you know what linemen make?
- 45:32People that work on uh power lines, you know what the average pay is in America?
- 45:39The median is 81,000 to 86,000 as of May, as of May this year.
- 45:48The median pay for linemen is 81,000 to 86,000.
- 45:53Now, that's uh that they get very good benefits too.
- 45:59Hourly rates start around 35 to 40 bucks an hour.
- 46:04And their salaries frequently exceed well over 100,000 annually with an overtime.
- 46:13The national median is 81,760 to 85,420 annually, or about 40, 40 to 41 bucks an hour.
- 46:26Experienced linemen or journeyman, they exceed well over 100,000 to 150,000 plus, especially in urban areas or high demand areas.
- 46:42Pay varies by state, but Washington, D.C.
- 46:45and New York show high average salaries.
- 46:50Pennsylvania salaries are averaging around 71, just just shy of 72,000 in May of 2026.
- 46:59All right, that's just one example.
- 47:01And people are like, oh, there aren't jobs out there, nobody will hire me.
- 47:05And it's just not true.
- 47:08There aren't any good paying jobs out there.
- 47:11Excuse me.
- 47:15If that's not a high-paying job, I don't know what is.
- 47:18Yeah, it's hard work, granted.
- 47:22But if you're not afraid of hard work and you're not afraid to go out there, I'm telling you, the money's there.
- 47:28So anyway, Hassett also predicted strong economic growth through the rest of this year.
- 47:35Arguing that recent import data reflects long-term investment in manufacturing equipment rather than weaker domestic demand.
- 47:44He said, I'm highly confident that we're going to be looking at 4% numbers for the rest of the year.
- 47:50I personally would make a bet on it with my friends.
- 47:54Probably not the best to uh be making bets, but anyway, uh it's it's pretty cool.
- 48:02Here's another article.
- 48:04This one just came out too.
- 48:06Southern cities dominate rankings of best job markets for new college graduates.
- 48:13ADP study compared 53 largest metro areas on hiring, wages and affordability amid slowing labor market for young workers.
- 48:26And it turns out that uh the South is it's hot right now in more ways than one.
- 48:33I had to get out of the South.
- 48:34I couldn't take the heat.
- 48:36Give me the snow.
- 48:39I love the snow.
- 48:41But if you don't mind the heat, you want to move south, the jobs abound.
- 48:51The slowing labor market is posing a challenge to recent college graduates looking to begin their careers with many new graduates finding work in southern cities.
- 49:00Graduates finding work in southern cities.
- 49:03Now, when they say the slowing labor market, don't get this idea that the labor market is coming to a grinding halt because it's just not.
- 49:03Now, when they say the slowing labor market, don't get this idea that the labor market is coming to a grinding halt because it's just not.
- 49:14Uh, it goes through these ebbs and flows.
- 49:17It goes through a little bit of sluggish months, and then it'll pick back up.
- 49:22But overall, the labor labor market is doing quite well.
- 49:27Fed chair Powell, Jerome Powell.
- 49:27Fed chair Powell, Jerome Powell, he just talked about this at the latest Fed meeting.
- 49:34And he said, you know, the economy continues to be extremely robust.
- 49:40And that's part of why they held the interest rates.
- 49:43They didn't lower the interest rates because he was like, there's not really a sign that the economy's slowing down to where holding the interest rates higher is going to hurt businesses.
- 49:57So the study by the ADP found that Birmingham, Alabama, and Tampa, Florida were at the top of the list of destinations for fresh graduates embarking on careers.
- 50:09Birmingham was in the 85th or higher percentile in wages, affordability, and hiring.
- 50:17While Tampa was topping the rankings and hiring, despite middling scores for wages and affordability.
- 50:30Cities were followed by San Jose, California, Columbus, Ohio.
- 50:37I mean, like I said, the money's there.
- 50:41Four other cities in the top 10 were located in the South, including Raleigh, North Carolina, Tulsa, Oklahoma, Nashville, Tennessee, Charlotte, North Carolina.
- 50:52Two large metro areas around at the top 10, Stan Fran, and New York City ranked number 10.
- 51:03So even though uh Ma'am Donnie's trying to destroy New York City, as of right now, it ranks number 10.
- 51:13So there are jobs.
- 51:15Probably because people are leaving there and it's leaving these vacancies.
- 51:21But there is growth.
- 51:24There is growth in the job market.
- 51:26And I think this is really good news, but we have to be responsible.
- 51:32Individually with our personal budgets.
- 51:35We've got to be responsible.
- 51:38We've got a budget.
- 51:40You see, a lot of people hear this, and they're like, oh my goodness, let's go out, let's get a job, and let's uh let's buy the new Ferrari and uh get our payments for the next eight years at 18% interest.
- 51:56And my responsibility hold on just a second.
- 52:00Get the high-paying job, or get the job that you you really want that you desire.
- 52:07Budget, drive the old Jalopy.
- 52:12You know, there's a video.
- 52:13I man, I should find this and link this to the show notes, but uh I might have a hard time finding it.
- 52:19You can look it up.
- 52:21But it's a young Jeff Bezos, and he has a reporter with him, and it's when he was starting up Amazon, and he was at the time worth I don't know, like a billion or so.
- 52:37Uh and he's driving around this old like kind of run-down Honda Accord.
- 52:45And the reporter was like, I just have one question.
- 52:49What's with the Honda?
- 52:51And then Bezos does like this cackle.
- 52:54He's like, ah ha ha.
- 52:55He's like, oh, well, and I agree with him.
- 53:00He's like, it works perfectly fine.
- 53:03Why would I get rid of it?
- 53:04Why would I get something else?
- 53:07It works.
- 53:09And I love that.
- 53:10You know, Warren Buffett does the same thing.
- 53:12Warren Buffett drives the same old car.
- 53:15His car is, I think uh on average, his car's always been eight years or eight years old or older.
- 53:22Drives an old Cadillac around.
- 53:25Nothing special, nothing fancy.
- 53:28I think it's like gray.
- 53:31This is not flashy at all.
- 53:34And he talks about it.
- 53:35He's like, yeah, why would I why would I waste my money on that?
- 53:40Same with his house.
- 53:42Nothing flashy, it just works.
- 53:46Elon Musk, same thing.
- 53:50He doesn't have anything flashy.
- 53:53Why waste your money on that?
- 53:57Uh so kind of interesting.
- 53:59Kind of interesting.
- 54:00They they get it, they understand it.
- 54:03So if we combine these things, and this is what I want to end with.
- 54:07All right, the jobs are there.
- 54:09The economy is robust.
- 54:12Plenty of opportunity here in America.
- 54:14Do not listen to the lie that there aren't jobs available.
- 54:19There are.
- 54:21There are plenty of jobs available.
- 54:23Plenty of high-paying jobs available.
- 54:27So what if many Americans?
- 54:34What if they really captured this idea?
- 54:37This conservative idea that America is the land of opportunity.
- 54:42And they went out and they pursued the jobs that they actually wanted.
- 54:46And they pursued the level of income that they actually wanted.
- 54:51And they lived well within their means.
- 54:54And they became productive.
- 54:57And they were budgeting and not ruining or running the risk of ruining their family because they're way extended beyond what their means are.
- 55:11Do you realize how carefree we would be?
- 55:14We'd have less people protesting and burning cities down because they're angry because they think that life is unfair, and that everybody's just out to get us.
- 55:27You know, the world would be a lot more peaceful.
- 55:30And I'm really hopeful.
- 55:32I'm hopeful that people are starting to get it because I am seeing evidence.
- 55:36I know that debt is at an all-time high.
- 55:39And that that makes me really sad.
- 55:43But at the same time, we have a growing trend of young people learning to budget.
- 55:48It's being taught.
- 55:50Kids are learning.
- 55:51Kids are eager to learn.
- 55:54And there are always investment opportunities available.
- 55:59They're out there.
- 56:00They're out there.
- 56:01We just have to open our eyes to them.
- 56:01We just have to open our eyes to them.
- 56:04We have to teach them to our kids.
- 56:04We have to teach them to our kids.
- 56:06And when we do that, the world will be a much safer, more peaceful place.
- 56:06And when we do that, the world will be a much safer, more peaceful place.
- 56:14Definitely a lot less stress.
- 56:14Definitely a lot less stress.
- 56:17That, my friends, is the hidden lightness.
- 56:17That, my friends, is the hidden lightness.
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- 56:27You'll be in the know.
- 56:27You'll be in the know.
- 56:28There is a hidden lightness at Sean.
- 56:28There is a hidden lightness that shines inside of all of us.
- 56:31When there's so much darkness that envelops the world, remember that it doesn't take much light to expose that darkness and to ultimately inspire other people.
- 56:38Join me in being a light.