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Friday August 28 2026 | Our Automotive Future:  EVs, Self-Driving, Robo-Taxis · The M&M Experience

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  Speaker 3: preborn.com slash mmextra. That is Mike Gallagher, one of the Ms.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Mark Davis, the other M. And today is it's
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  Speaker 3: EV slash FSD slash robo electric vehicle, full service driving
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  Speaker 3: robo taxis. Welcome to the future. And the future is
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  Speaker 3: fascinating and scary, like with so, so very many other things.
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  Speaker 3: And you've been leading me through this entire chapter of life.
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  Speaker 2: Mark, can I just tell you how excited I am
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  Speaker 2: to get to do this today? And I love these
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  Speaker 2: theme shows we're doing. I want to keep doing it.
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  Speaker 2: I want to do a day on movies. Maybe we'll
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  Speaker 2: do a show on plays because I happen to love theater.
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  Speaker 2: And you like it. You tolerate it. But I could
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  Speaker 2: lead the way. Yeah. Music, you're the music maestro. But
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  Speaker 2: today is a day that I really hope we could
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  Speaker 2: get into. And I'm always sensitive to something. You know,
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  Speaker 2: as talk show hosts, and we've done this together collectively
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  Speaker 2: for about 100 years, right? I mean, we've both been
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  Speaker 2: at it. You know, we've been at this a long time. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, my boss, my mentor is Phil Boyce. And
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  Speaker 2: Phil has a theory about a good talk show host
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  Speaker 2: and a good talk station and a good platform, like
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  Speaker 2: a good podcast. You never really want to surprise the
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  Speaker 2: audience with what comes out of the speakers. In other words,
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  Speaker 2: if you're listening to a talk station... And you've got
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  Speaker 2: 21 hours of conservative talk. You just really don't want
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  Speaker 2: three hours of progressive talk because you've surprised your audience.
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  Speaker 2: And you also want to believe that what excites the
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  Speaker 2: host excites the audience. And so– And you've got to
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  Speaker 2: be careful about that because sometimes we tend to drone
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  Speaker 2: on and on. I know. I know. Most of the time.
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  Speaker 2: And if you're good and if you understand– look, I've
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  Speaker 2: always been credited with being pretty good at the old
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  Speaker 2: relatability narrative. I'm pretty relatable. I share stories about my
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  Speaker 2: ups and downs and my bad back or whatever is
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  Speaker 2: going on in my life or one of my kids
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  Speaker 2: causing me a headache. The bottom line is I am
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  Speaker 2: so excited about the future that is here today when
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  Speaker 2: it comes to autonomous driving, whether it's the robo-taxis, which
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  Speaker 2: I've experienced a lot of. Never done it. It's unbelievable. Yep.
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  Speaker 2: And whether it's the full or the full-service driving. Never
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  Speaker 2: done it. From Tesla. So let me tell you why
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  Speaker 2: I'm excited. And let me begin, Mark, by talking. sharing
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  Speaker 2: the experiment that I conducted for you. I did this
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  Speaker 2: for your behalf because I knew that you're kind of
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  Speaker 2: a neophyte in this.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I'm fascinated. I hold it at arm's length. I'm
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  Speaker 3: intrigued yet terrified. And most of that's a comedy bit.
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  Speaker 3: I know that check back in three, four years, I'll
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  Speaker 3: be doing this like as natural as rain.
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  Speaker 2: But go ahead. Well, and that's the thing. I didn't
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  Speaker 2: know what I was getting into when I started driving
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  Speaker 2: my kid's car all the time. And I borrow his
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  Speaker 2: car a lot now because I love it so much.
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  Speaker 2: Here's the story about Tesla and their full service drive.
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  Speaker 2: FSD is what it's called. And it comes equipped on
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  Speaker 2: just about every model and make of Tesla you get.
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  Speaker 2: And it is the ultimate way that the car basically
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  Speaker 2: drives itself. Now, I fell in love with it. I
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  Speaker 2: was nervous about it the first couple times I did it.
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  Speaker 2: I thought, oh, my Lord, I'm going to drive this thing.
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  Speaker 2: This thing's going to go off the bridge. It's going
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  Speaker 2: to take me off a bridge. Exactly. I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: wind up at the bottom. Dead in a day. I'll
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  Speaker 2: be down in the bottom of Tampa Bay. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's going to drive me right off the Howard Franklin Bridge.
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  Speaker 2: And then I started settling in, and I started doing
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  Speaker 2: it regularly. And Mark, it is such a dream. It
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  Speaker 2: is such a blessing. It is such a game changer.
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  Speaker 2: We've both been driving cars since we were 16 years old, right? Yep,
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  Speaker 2: of course. For the first time ever, you don't have
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  Speaker 2: that anxiety, that stress, that tension of having your hands
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  Speaker 2: on the wheel, having your foot on the gas or
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  Speaker 2: the brake.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: You push the button, you put in your destination, you
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  Speaker 2: push the button and the car will literally back out
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  Speaker 2: of your parking space and take you to where you're
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  Speaker 2: going and you don't touch a thing. Now, one caveat
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  Speaker 2: to this, I want to make sure people know this.
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  Speaker 2: You don't just go to sleep. You can't just pull
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  Speaker 2: out the newspaper or get on your phone and start.
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  Speaker 2: You've still got to pay attention. How does it know?
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  Speaker 2: How does it know your level of attention? It doesn't know.
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  Speaker 2: You have to know. In other words, because it could
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  Speaker 2: make a mistake, and it has. But when it makes
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  Speaker 2: a mistake, simple, you grab the wheel. If it makes
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  Speaker 2: a mistake, simple, you put your foot on the brake.
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  Speaker 2: It's not the end of the world, but I will
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  Speaker 2: tell you it's not infallible. Let me give you the
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  Speaker 2: experiment that I want to share with you, and then
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  Speaker 2: I want to get all your observations. Oh, I got plenty.
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  Speaker 2: I've rolled out the full-service drive experience to five friends
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  Speaker 2: of mine. I've taken five friends for a ride, and
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  Speaker 2: I've even let them test drive my kid's car. And
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  Speaker 2: five different friends, okay? Three men, two women, five different
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  Speaker 2: people over the last, I'd say, six months. And none
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  Speaker 2: of them had ever done it before. They were just
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  Speaker 2: like you. They were kind of intrigued but terrified. They thought,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure. None of them were all that familiar
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  Speaker 2: with Tesla, right? Or electric vehicles, for that matter. They
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  Speaker 2: liked the big— Internal combustion engine. Hell yeah. Of the
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  Speaker 2: five of them, four of the five went out and
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  Speaker 2: bought a Tesla. Get out of town! Four out of five. Mark,
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  Speaker 2: I kid you not. They fell in love like I have.
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  Speaker 2: And this is the thing, Mark. It is a game changer,
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  Speaker 2: but you kind of got to experience it in order
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  Speaker 2: to appreciate it.
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  Speaker 3: I don't doubt it. In other news, the fifth one
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  Speaker 3: is dead at the bottom of a canyon. Correct.
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  Speaker 2: They caught on fire when they hit a semi headfirst.
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  Speaker 2: But the other four are thrilled.
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  Speaker 3: But to return to what you had said, because you
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  Speaker 3: had said you can't nap and you can't read a paper,
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  Speaker 3: I thought, and this is really good, this is why
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  Speaker 3: it's really good. Every once in a while, you talked
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  Speaker 3: about the relatability thing, and I'm going to blow some
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  Speaker 3: smoke up your minute, because there will be those moments
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  Speaker 3: where you know way more about something than I do,
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  Speaker 3: or I know way more than you do, just experientially.
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  Speaker 2: Sure.
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  Speaker 3: I want to do musical theater Friday, something I have
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  Speaker 3: an appreciation for, but you have an A professorial obsession.
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  Speaker 3: When I hear you talk about it, it's like when
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  Speaker 3: you hear me dork out about space. You make fun
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  Speaker 3: of me for dorking out about space. Next thing I know,
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  Speaker 3: you're on your balcony watching a launch.
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  Speaker 2: I love it now because of you. I love it
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  Speaker 2: because of you. I never have until. And that's how
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  Speaker 2: you honor me with your appreciation of musical theater. But
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  Speaker 2: I love now SpaceX and NASA and launches. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: there was a launch the other day. I sent you.
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  Speaker 2: I took the screenshot. The map. I mean, I get
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  Speaker 2: up early in the morning. And that's all because of
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  Speaker 2: my love and admiration for you.
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  Speaker 3: That is part of your skill set that I will gladly,
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  Speaker 3: and I feel this is shared. I think I could
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  Speaker 3: get a big amen from everybody listening and watching right now.
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  Speaker 3: They will listen to you dork out about something you're
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  Speaker 3: passionate about forever because you're just that good at it.
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  Speaker 3: So to go back into the– here's something that maybe
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  Speaker 3: is a misconception of mine. I have also heard that
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  Speaker 3: if you got the full self-driving– it's full self-driving FSD–
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  Speaker 3: that you can't nap or read a book. And I said,
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  Speaker 3: how does it know? I really thought– and maybe I
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  Speaker 3: just made this up– that there's– does it have any–
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  Speaker 3: Vision of your eyeballs to see if you remember there
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  Speaker 3: was one where it knows where you're looking kind of.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, it does. In fact, let me clarify something because
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  Speaker 2: your question actually was more prescient than I thought it was.
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  Speaker 2: When you say how does it know, I misunderstood you.
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  Speaker 2: You mean how does it know if you're not paying attention? Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: If you decide to take a nap, what does it do? Ah!
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  Speaker 2: It will shut it down. It shoots 500 volts through
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  Speaker 2: your head.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry.
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  Speaker 2: But it shuts it down. It shuts down FSD. You'll
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  Speaker 2: get an alarm. You'll get a notification on your dash.
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  Speaker 2: And you'll get a beep saying you're not paying attention.
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  Speaker 2: You better believe it knows where your eyes are. Now,
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  Speaker 2: let me give you a little hint. Let me give
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  Speaker 2: you a little trick to all this, which is kind
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  Speaker 2: of cool. And this is really fascinating to me that
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  Speaker 2: they have this technology. There are cameras in the cabin
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  Speaker 2: of your car, of the Tesla, and it's showing they're
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  Speaker 2: trained on you. If you do look at a book
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  Speaker 2: or you look down at your phone, it will see
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  Speaker 2: that you're not looking straight. straight ahead. And it will
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  Speaker 2: give you a ding. It'll say, pay attention. You're not
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  Speaker 2: paying attention. And if you don't respond, like giving the
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  Speaker 2: steering wheel a little tug, it turns the thing off.
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  Speaker 2: You've got to take over manually. That's tremendous. But here's
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  Speaker 2: the little trick. Yep. This is kind of funny. If
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  Speaker 2: you have one of those magnetic mounts just to the
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  Speaker 2: right of the steering wheel and to the left of
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  Speaker 2: the Tesla screen. Right. You can conduct so much business
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  Speaker 2: on that phone while you're driving because you're kind of
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  Speaker 2: tricking the car into thinking your eyes are straight ahead.
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  Speaker 3: You're looking enough, and it might think you're sort of
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  Speaker 3: watching the road, but you're just five degrees to the
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  Speaker 3: right reading emails.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, reading emails. You're on X. I'm looking at
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  Speaker 2: the refeeds of M & M Extra. You can watch
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  Speaker 2: a movie. Oh, yeah, there's a way around it. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: I shouldn't talk about it publicly because Elon– It's going
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  Speaker 2: to shut it all down. But there is a trick
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  Speaker 2: to it. But, Mark, you are right, and you're so
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  Speaker 2: observant in knowing that they have a way. But let's
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  Speaker 2: talk safety for a minute. Statistic after statistic, data after data,
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  Speaker 2: survey after survey, these cars are a hell of a
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  Speaker 2: lot safer than human drivers. Of course they are. They are.
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  Speaker 2: And I know that.
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  Speaker 3: Because the fears that the neophytes and Luddites have— is
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  Speaker 3: that it is in relinquishing control. We're all control freaks.
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  Speaker 3: There's no more control. There's some people have no control
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  Speaker 3: over their lives, but doggone it, when they're driving, I
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  Speaker 3: got control of that doggone, you know, 94 Taurus or
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  Speaker 3: whatever I've got. And relinquishing that is a big bridge
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  Speaker 3: to cross. And we also have a certain distrust of technology.
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  Speaker 3: We don't even understand what kind of sorcery even makes
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  Speaker 3: this possible. So I can totally see the big, long
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  Speaker 3: hurdle that people have to get past. But you're absolutely right.
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  Speaker 3: I remember there was an example where somebody had a
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  Speaker 3: self-driving car, do-do-do-do-do-do, and it had to change a lane,
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  Speaker 3: and some load fell off a truck. And when that happened,
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  Speaker 3: somebody freaked out, and the car instantly saw what had
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  Speaker 3: dropped off a delivery truck, instantly saw that there was
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  Speaker 3: a cone that prevented a lane change, instantly saw that
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  Speaker 3: there was a car at the right quarter panel and
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  Speaker 3: the car just instantly, faster than any human being could
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  Speaker 3: have processed all three of those hazards. The car just
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  Speaker 3: went bing, bing, bing and did exactly the right thing
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  Speaker 3: to prevent a collision.
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  Speaker 2: I've had a dog dart out in front of me.
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  Speaker 2: The car sees it, gets away from the dog, swerves
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  Speaker 2: around the dog and misses it. I've had a car
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  Speaker 2: cut out in front of me. The car immediately brakes and.
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  Speaker 3: So I absolutely know that against my human nature that
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  Speaker 3: says distrust and fear of the unknown, that once I
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  Speaker 3: settle into this, once we all settle into this, that
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  Speaker 3: it's just going to be a net safer experience because
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  Speaker 3: it's travel without the danger of human foibles.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. I completely get it. Exactly. And now mix in AI.
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  Speaker 2: Now add the AI layer to this. Now I'm out.
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  Speaker 2: Now I'm out. I know.
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  Speaker 3: No kidding. I'm terrified again. I'm only half kidding. AI what?
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  Speaker 2: In what way? grok grok is on the tesla and
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  Speaker 2: so you can talk to grok on your screen out
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  Speaker 2: loud and you can tell it hey take me to
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  Speaker 2: the nearest italian restaurant grok oh it then gets programmed
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  Speaker 2: into the car hey grok have the car go to
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  Speaker 2: 68 degrees in the front seat only and turn on
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  Speaker 2: the the ventilated seats It takes the car to 68.
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  Speaker 2: You're talking and giving prompts and commands via Grok, not
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  Speaker 2: only about the car, but about your direction, where you're going.
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  Speaker 2: You can ask them, hey, is there a gas station there?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, all this stuff interactively, and you're using AI
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  Speaker 2: because you're using Grok, which is built in to, I think,
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  Speaker 2: almost all the Teslas. This is the future, Mark. That
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  Speaker 2: is remarkable.
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  Speaker 3: It's now. And I know that it's something I– and
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  Speaker 3: it's funny. My hesitancy and my terror is partly a
• 14:02
  Speaker 3: satirical comedy bit. I know the first time– now, when
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  Speaker 3: you handed– you said you had these five friends. When you–
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  Speaker 3: did you just shove them in the car and go,
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  Speaker 3: see ya?
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  Speaker 2: Or did you ride along with them? No. First of all,
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  Speaker 2: I got behind the wheel, got them in the passenger seat,
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  Speaker 2: and we drove around for five or ten minutes. And
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  Speaker 2: then we stopped and I switched. So they can get
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  Speaker 2: the feel of it, kind of see what I was doing.
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  Speaker 2: And then I had them do it. And then I'm
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  Speaker 2: telling you, all five of them. Look, the only reason
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  Speaker 2: the fifth one didn't get the Tesla is because they
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  Speaker 2: just got into a brand new lease on a new car.
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  Speaker 2: The other four, they traded their, I think all five
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  Speaker 2: of them. I think I would have been five for five. Mark,
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  Speaker 2: they had like this epiphany and that was the word
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  Speaker 2: they kept using. They kept saying, holy cow. And the,
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  Speaker 2: and the acceleration is unbelievable. Look, if you love the
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  Speaker 2: acceleration of a, of an F one 50 pickup truck
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  Speaker 2: or whatever, Ain't nothing compared to a Tesla. You go
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  Speaker 2: zero to 60 in about two seconds.
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  Speaker 3: I rented, I had a loaner the other day, and
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  Speaker 3: I've been exclusively, and I don't just love the internal
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: combustion engine. I love the V8, baby. I like the V8,
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  Speaker 3: and I've got both of them on both vehicles I
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: currently have. And, you know, the inline fours and the
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: sixes have some pep and some torque.
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  Speaker 2: And blah, blah, blah.
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  Speaker 3: But they gave me as a loaner at the Lexus dealership,
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  Speaker 3: one of the RZE430, blah, blah, blah, And that thing
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  Speaker 3: was so peppy. I mean, it slapped me into the
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: back of that thing like I was launching off an
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  Speaker 3: aircraft carrier. It was remarkable, the responsiveness that you get
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  Speaker 3: for these things.
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  Speaker 2: And you want to know the other thing? And I'm
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: sitting here thinking we ought to send Tesla a bill
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: for all this free publicity we're giving them. I was
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: going to say, seriously. We've got to invoice them. But
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: you know the other thing that's amazing? Very little maintenance.
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: Very little maintenance. My kid has had his car. That's right. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: there's no, you're not gotten all the moving, the combustion
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  Speaker 2: and the spark plugs and the carburetor. A lot of
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  Speaker 2: fewer things to go wrong. Now, when something does go wrong,
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  Speaker 2: there's going to be a big price tag because you
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: know what goes to the one thing? Until the battery
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  Speaker 2: catches on fire. Well, no. When the battery runs out
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  Speaker 2: of life. And when it does, you're looking at about,
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  Speaker 2: I think, 10 grand. Gee, that's the downside. But what
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  Speaker 2: have you saved? How long does it take for the
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  Speaker 2: battery to need replacing? Exactly. And the thing is, five, eight,
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  Speaker 2: ten years. And guess what? Then you'll probably trade up
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  Speaker 2: Amen and amen. And we were showing the pre-born B-roll
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• 19:24
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• 19:47
  Speaker 2: slash mmextra. All right, let's go from Tesla's and full-service
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: drive to something I'm a little less confident about, but
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: I still love it. And that's the taxis, that's the Waymo,
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: that's the vehicles that take you around the Like an
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Uber without a driver. And you've done this. You've told
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: me you loved it. What do you not love? Well,
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: I admit, because with a full-service drive in a Tesla,
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: you are still in control. In other words, something goes wrong,
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: you do grab the wheel. You're the human in the loop.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: There is at least a human in the loop somehow.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: You're the backstop. In other words, you're the safety net.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: There ain't no grabbing the wheel when you're in the
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: backseat of a Waymo. Dude. You're on your own. Now,
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: I will tell you, I haven't had any trouble with
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: any of these autonomous taxis. But what happens when you do?
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's like, that's not a lot of margin
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: for error there, right? If you're going to go off
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: a bridge.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: What are the, what are the famous clips that we've seen?
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: There was, wasn't there one? And I don't know what
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: happened there. We're like eight of them reported to a
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: single cul-de-sac at a suburb of Atlanta and just circled
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: around like they're waiting for the, you know, the spirit
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: of Beelzebub to rise up.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Out of a panel cover.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: It's like, what, what even was that? And the other
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: one was, and I think this is kind of a, is,
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: is what it's in full self-driving is, or you've got
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: a robo-taxi, I've often wondered how does it– because they
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: obviously read red lights.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: They obviously read stop signs.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: What about the– there's been an accident or a signal
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: is out, and you've got an officer waving you through.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: I don't know if the car recognizes that. There's one
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: clip that I've seen where there's like a cop going like, Waymo, stop,
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: or get moving, or yelling at the car to get
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: it to do something like it has ears. So it's
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: not foolproof. I saw a clip last night on X
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: of a movie. They show a lot of movie clips,
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: and sometimes you go down that rabbit hole, and the
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: algorithm takes you to then a bunch of movie clips.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: I see a lot for The Sopranos, in fact. They
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: show me The Sopranos all the time. You've got to
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: find this clip. Apparently, there's a movie starring Julia Roberts.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: You talked in 15 seconds.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: I saw it. Good. Good, because I don't know this movie,
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: but what I saw was a scene where Julia Roberts
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: is in a car. With her husband and the kids
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: in the backseat. And something terrible has happened wherever they are.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: There are no people around. It's like there's been some
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: nuclear bomb went off or something. And they're saying, where
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: are all the people? It is from 2023. It's called
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Leave the World Behind.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: How do you know this? Because I saw it. Wow.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: And you knew right away what I was going to do. Okay. Well,
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: here's a funny thing.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: I Googled Julia Roberts electric vehicles out of control.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: And there you go.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: A cyber attack knocks out technology, leading to erratic and
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: terrifying behavior. At one point, they're on the beach, and
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: there's like a cargo ship coming at them because they've
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: lost that.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Right. That scene's on there, too. So that clip was
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: actually seen. In fact, that's what it starts. They're on
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: the beach in the cargo ship, and they said these
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: cargo ships are running aground because they're losing their navigation systems, right? Yep. Right.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: But then it cuts to the scene where they're driving
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: on the highway, they get off on an exit, and
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: there's like about... thousand looks like waymos all crashing into
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: each other nobody in any of the vehicles they're one
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: after another almost hitting them head on i mean they're
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: terrified and so that now obviously you would like to
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: believe that can't happen but look in the world we're
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: living in who knows mark who knows so that i
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: gotta see that movie five years that's it's it's pretty
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: good movie ethan hawke Yeah, he was the husband. Oh, wow.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: It's pretty cool. Leave the world behind. Leave the world behind. 2023. Now,
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: I've got a robo. Go ahead. I've got a robo.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: I was going to say, it's kind of the premise
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: of our friend Craig Stanfield's book, Carbon Zero. You know,
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: you give AI a command. What could go wrong? What
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: could go wrong? So go ahead.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: So here's my question for you. And this is because
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: you are quite the tech bro. and an embracer of this,
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: what's the term? You're an early adopter. You're an early
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: adopter of the robo-taxi thing. But this will, also knowing
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: the kind of person you are, I wonder why this
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: has not been an issue. If I am in an Uber,
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: let me not use myself. If somebody's in an Uber
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: and there's a human driver, and you get in the back,
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: you're going to show a certain deference, a certain respect
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: for the vehicle. You're not going to, you know, throw
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: your half-eaten burger in the back seat.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: I think if you're in the robo-taxi, what keeps slobs
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: among us from leaving or doing unspeakable things in the
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: back of the robo-taxi? Because it's not like there's something
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: that'll go... You just left a biohazard in my backseat.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: You must be neutralized. So I'm wondering if there's like
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: a hygienic or basic human consideration downside, or might there
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: be once these things get common enough? Because as we know,
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: some percentage of human beings are disgusting slobs.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Well, and this brings me to Las Vegas, because in Vegas,
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: where they are like, that's like the melting pot of
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: these autonomous taxis. They've got, they've got Waymo's. I think
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: they've got, of course, I think they're introducing Elon's robo
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: taxis and they have dog gone. And I'm drawing a
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: blank on the name, but it's like a chariot. It
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: was like a golf cart with you. You sent me those.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: There's no like, there's no like driver's seat or passenger seat.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: You're in like a cabin with four wheels and, And
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: with benches like inside facing each other. And you're right.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: In Vegas, you get on the strip on a Friday
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: night at midnight. I can see people slinging around their
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: booze and their food. Look, I guess they got to
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: account for that. But here's what I love. And I
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: don't know if this means that I'm an antisocial tool
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: or not. I love getting an Uber without a driver.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: I don't want to talk to people. I know. I
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: just don't. I don't want to be mean. There's something
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: about me psychologically that likes to kind of be alone,
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: you know? And I like to get in a car.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: And in Phoenix, these Waymos, they'll take you to the airport.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: It's a fraction of the price of a regular Uber
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: or a taxi because obviously there's no driver to pay.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: It's cheaper. It's efficient. It's quiet. It's peaceful. You don't
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: have to make small talk with anybody. Mark, is there
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: something wrong with me that I don't want to make
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: small talk with people?
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: Listen, what do you do for a living? All you
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: do is talk to people.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: You are Mr.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: Human Connectivity. So if every once in a while, if
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: every once in a while, there's a moment where maybe
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: you do not have to worry about engaging. It's kind
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: of like the way in which just the normal operating
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: of a car requires a certain attentiveness, like where's my exit?
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: What am I doing? Am I hitting the brake well enough?
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: And you're relieved of that, the stress goes down. Similarly,
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: if you get into a vehicle and there's no other
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: human in there that you got to pay the slightest
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: molecule of attention to, you can just completely relax. Now,
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: you know what I did in the last 30 seconds?
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: Tell me.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: You were sitting there, you couldn't remember the name of
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: that thing in Vegas. So I went to every text
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: you've ever sent me, which will make a fine book someday.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Band in Sweden. Yeah, buddy. Oh, mama. Lock that
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: thing down. Lock that thing down.
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: I did a search through my texts for every time
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: you invoked Vegas. There's one very unfortunate picture of you
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: passed out on a roulette table.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Kidding. That's not true.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: No, I found from June of this past year. You
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: made reference to it or I made reference to it.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: Those vehicles were called Zooks.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: Zooks. Zooks. Yeah, Zooks. There you go.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Boom.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Which sounds chillingly like a slur of some kind. I
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: don't like the name. You got one of them Zooks
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: driving that car. Yeah. We got to stop those Zooks
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: from coming across the border. You're about the neighbors. A
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: couple of Zooks moved in that door. No, but it's
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: a great... And that thing was amazing, too. It's real comfortable. The...
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: The light music is playing in the cabin. It's nice.
• 28:16
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• 28:36
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• 28:38
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• 28:40
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• 28:44
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• 28:47
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  Speaker 2: I wish you Godspeed because I'm going on vacation, my man.
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  Speaker 3: Can I ask you a final question on this subject
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: before you leave me to my own devices for an
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  Speaker 3: entire week by myself?
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: And I'm praying for you. Thoughts and prayers. Oh, we're
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: going to have a good old time. We're going to
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: talk about you on Monday and Tuesday. No, stop it.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Sort of.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: Last thing on the electric thing. Sure. I think about
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: human beings. I try to think about human beings as
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: often as I can. As soon as Uber and Lyft
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: became a big deal, I thought about what the effect
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: it would have on the cab industry. Now that we
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: have driverless taxis, I think about all the humans who
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: are driving for a living. So give me a minute
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: or so on that because I don't want to be
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: cavalier about that. But also, I know there's nothing that
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: can be done about it. If people just want this
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: driverless stuff, they're going to have it. And maybe the
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: cab driver would say, learn to code, but don't do
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: that because AI will do that. I like to think
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: that things tend to work out in a diverse economy.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: Truck drivers, you know how many truck drivers love us
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: as talk show hosts, as you know, the electric trucks,
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: massive 18 wheelers, they're already on the road. delivering things
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: to places. I don't know how in the world stuff
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: gets out of the truck. I guess that has to
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: be met with a delivery crew or an unloading crew.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: But what do we think about the degree to which
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: electric trucks may have an adverse effect on the cultural
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: and just organically American profession of truck driving?
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: I hate it. I hate every aspect of it. It's
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: the real downside of Of our changing world. I'm going
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: to give you a statistic that's going to blow your mind.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: There was a great article that I saw online that
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: our friend in South Carolina, Jane Robelo, posted on social media,
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: and I reposted it. It's a question is asked, the
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: end of local news. And it was all about how
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: local TV news is largely in a free fall. People
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: aren't engaging with local TV news the way they used to.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: And the article is a very exhaustive look into the
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: way companies are consolidating. Your local anchor might be 200
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: miles away. They're consolidating newsrooms. They're consolidating local reporters, anchors,
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: and all that. But here's the number that's going to
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: blow your mind. Are you ready for this? The Medill
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: School of Journalism conducted a study tracking how many jobs
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: and how many newspapers have been lost Since 2005. Are
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: you ready for this? Ready. 270,000 jobs have been lost
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  Speaker 2: in journalism, newspapers, local TV, maybe radio, and nearly, how
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: about this? Number, how about 3,500 newspapers have gone belly up.
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  Speaker 2: So that's a price that is being paid. That's a
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: heavy price, my friend. It is. It is, unfortunately, that's
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: the changing world. Are we?
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: So in keeping with the notion of when something like
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: that happens, is there an offset? Are we worse informed?
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  Speaker 3: Are people who used to get their news from five
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: or six local radio news departments? I mean, I guess so.
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  Speaker 3: But there are 53 websites that people can go to
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: get the exact same information in the exact same town.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: Aren't there? Well, that's it. That's it. You got to
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: change direction. You got to go into a different place
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: and you got to go to it. That's what it is.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: Look at our world. We're now big into the podcast space.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: We're terrestrial radio guys. Yep. Then I had to get
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: used to Salem News Channel. Then I'm doing the podcast.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: So this is the ever-changing world we're in. It's a
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: profound thought. We'll leave it at that. I'm on vacation
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: next week, and then Labor Day, and then we're back
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: a week from Tuesday, I guess. But hold down the fort,
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: my friend, please.
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: So what I'm going to do, as you have done
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: so with human-like devotion— I'm not going to sit here
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: and spout for 45 minutes or so, but I'll find
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: a couple of clips, a couple of things, share some
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: things about what happened on my show. Spend 15 or
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: 20 with every same time, same station, same bat channel,
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: and I'll be right here with you. Just one of
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: the M's, the other M, Mike Gallagher, taking some well-deserved
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: time off.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: Love you, man. Have a great whatever you're doing. I
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: know we'll hear about it soon. Be safe and we
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: love you. Love you. We'll miss you. See you when
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: we get back.
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  Speaker 1: Music