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Unleash Unique Abilities for Impact and Growth with Jason Van Orden · The One Small Change Podcast

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Welcome, everybody, to the One Small Change podcast. I am
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thrilled to be embarking with you on this journey of exploration and
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transformation. I'm your host, Yvonne McCoy, and I bring almost
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30 years of entrepreneurial experience to this
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podcast. But more importantly, I bring a passion for discovering
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how you can grow through seemingly small changes.
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So thank you for joining me. And, you know, I want to make sure that
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we stay on this journey together. So this week, we will be
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talking to someone who made a difference in my journey,
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Jason Van Orden. Jason, thank you for coming. Thank you for
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being here. Tell everybody why I'm so excited about you
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and what what it is you do and why you do it. Okay.
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Yeah. So, at its core, what I do is I am a growth
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strategist that works with coaches and consultants who are ready to
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unlock a new level of income and impact. They're doing great
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work with clients, but they're just not quite sure what to shift in their business
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model to get to that next level. And, so I help them with their
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messaging, their offers, and and find those I mean, speaking of small
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changes, those little changes they can make that can open up a whole new level
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of of impact and income. And, this is something
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that I got into many years ago because as an entrepreneur, I had
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a podcast that did very, very well early on in podcasting. In
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2005, actually, I launched the the very first podcast about Internet marketing and
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Internet business. And it helped beginning entrepreneurs
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get started with a brand new business based on their interests,
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their passions, and so forth. And what I noticed in working with a lot of
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those entrepreneurs is that there were so many people with a unique
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perspective, unique story, strength, you know,
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a a an approach to things that that
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could have a huge impact on, you know, a certain segment of people out
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there in the world if they just knew how to reach those people in the
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best way. And I just started realizing, like, wow. You know what? There's so many
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issues and needs and problems we're trying to manage and solve in this
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world and so many smart people with great ideas that just need
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help reaching the people that can help best that, I've just
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had a passion for many years about helping experts,
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consultants, coaches, you know, anyone with that kind of a message
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to to reach those people in the most effective, efficient way
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possible for them, but also one that's aligned with their vision, their values,
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their their strengths. And so everything I do is
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is around that mission. I feel like if I can amplify more of those
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voices, it, elevates the world in some small way
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and then also compounds, I guess, my own impact in the world a little bit,
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as well. And, so that's that's a little bit about
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about me. And I think that's one of the things, you know, that we
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share and one of the reasons I was so glad to find you,
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when I did is because I think so
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often there's so many cookie cutter you know, people
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are given these cookie cutter formulas, which keep
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you from standing out and shining in the world. And I
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think that, you know, part of what I do is, you know, I
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kinda look at what your heart business is, the thing that you would do for
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nothing, and try to figure out where your head business can help
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those people so that you can do what you do naturally, your
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natural gifts, you know, in an environment of people that you like. And
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so, you know, one of the one of the great things that Jason does is
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and and and if you're on my mailing list at all, you'll see is
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he does, GEM, which is generous entrepreneurs in
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in marketing. And it is I always say to people,
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if you're afraid of networking, you need to go there. I call it the gentle
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networking because it's not the fire hose that you
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normally get, but there's lots of information. You actually get to
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meet people and talk to them and get ideas.
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So, we were part of
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what you were talking about, I think, is, the
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problem that most entrepreneurs have, and and the one that
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I'm addressing from a different perspective is
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they're good at what they do. That doesn't
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necessarily mean that they're good at the at at the
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business part of what they do. Right. So what I say to
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people that, you know, are my clients is if you're good at what you do
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and the clients that you have love you, you don't have a a solution
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problem or a delivery problem. You have a client attraction problem.
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Right. So you you said a couple of things. One is
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sometimes it's just a matter of putting things in the right
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places and and doing the right thing. You know, it's
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not about totally starting over again. I do you know? So can you talk about
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that a little bit more? Yeah. I mean, so often when,
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people come to work with me as as clients, you know, they they started
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the business because they're they're passionate about what they have to offer. They do really
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wanna help people. They know how to get results for people, and they've, you
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know, started, you know, through through networking or hustling. They've they've
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gotten clients and have started establishing that business,
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and and now they wanna take it to that next level. And and it's
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usually one of just a small handful of things that they need help
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with and maybe some combination of these things. One is, you know, the messaging,
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how to best communicate what is unique
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about them in a way that feels very relevant and
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resonant to those that they want to work with most, those that they
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can have the biggest impact on, the the clients that they really want to
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attract. And as experts, we fall into this trap
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called the curse of expertise or the curse of knowledge, Whereas we
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get better and better what we do, we lose a little bit of the connection
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with what it's like to be in the shoes of those
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that we are trying to communicate with and reach and help. And so sometimes there's
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a disconnect between how we're talking about our expertise and our solution and
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what people are out there actively looking for. And so then we end up
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really frustrated with, like, why am I having such a hard time finding the right
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people or helping them see the value of what I offer or, you know, what
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is some, you know, something of that that nature. And so, that's
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one of the things is messaging. And then one of the other big things I
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end up helping people with is how they package their expertise
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as an offer. And so the main issue that I
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help people with there is that, you know, as if you are
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somebody who makes money based on your expertise, like a coach or consultant or
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speaker, your time is a huge part of what you're also
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offering, and there's a limit to how much time and energy you can sell or
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offer to people. And so, therefore, there's a limit to how big of an impact
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you're gonna have and how much money you can make. And so that's the other
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thing I I end up helping people with a lot is how can you make
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your the value that you deliver, the offers that you put out there more
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scalable such that you can have a bigger impact, make
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more money, but while stressing less, working less as
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hard, but still delivering amazing results to
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people, not sacrificing those results and also not sacrificing your
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sanity. And so those are a couple of the gaps that, yeah, they're great at
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what they do, but they don't necessarily realize what's the best way to package my
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stuff as an offer, the right pricing, the right, you know, features and
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things around that, and what's the best way to package my ideas in the messaging
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that I put out there to attract the right clients to that offer. And
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so I tried to bridge that gap so they can go to that next level
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level of income and impact. Well, you know, I I I kinda had that
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that experience and and, where I
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did a workshop. And one of my one of my clients was, like, my wingman,
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you know, letting people in and stuff like that. And after the workshop, she said
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to me, you know, the
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person that I saw deliver that workshop is not the person that I love
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working with. Mhmm. And I was trying to be really, you
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know, professional and polished and, you know, and stay
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on script and, you know, whatever. And she was like, you were
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just so stiff and artificial. Mhmm. You know? And
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so I think that, you know, I I think that my own
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personal opinion is, first of all, you have a lot less stress
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when you admit you're not perfect and just do your thing. You know what I
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mean? Just be yourself. And second of all, there are
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people who who like to be around people like that,
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whatever your that is. Right? And
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it's interesting that, you know, I think sometimes,
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like, I look at things that I'm attracted to when I hear people say
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the word journey or road map or blueprint.
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Those are like my buzzwords, and my antenna automatically goes
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up. And so it isn't you know, when you use the
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words and the messaging that is true to you, you're gonna
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attract the people who are gonna value you. Yes. Do you
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know? And it's funny because, you know, if you've listened to this podcast,
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you've heard this story a 1000000 times. When the first
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thing is that you have to kind of overcome that impostor
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syndrome, like, why would somebody pay me? Right. Right? So
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understanding that your uniqueness is one of the reasons that you
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get them. You will get them the results because you understand them.
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Yeah. You know? It's one thing. And so it's like
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the other thing is information is everywhere. So it
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is important that part of what you
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do, I think, is how you help people implement information
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because they can get information anywhere. Right. But you
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can help them in a way that your particular people
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can use it or give them the options of different ways to use the
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information to get the results. And, you know, it took me
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like I said, it I'm a slow learner, I
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think. But when I finally get it, it's like the elephant never forgets.
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Right? So the lesson that was hardest for me to learn
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was what is the benefits, not what do I do?
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Because, you know, I'm you know? And and what and when I finally got it,
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because I'm a food person. Right? Was it's like,
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if you wanted the gooey brownie and you went into a bakery and said, give
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me your best gooey brownie, and you said, okay. Here's 2 cups of flour.
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Here's a half a cup of cocoa, and here's a recipe. Yeah. You'd not
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be very happy. And what I've realized lately is it's not
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enough to say to people, I have your gooey brownie. You have to
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say, I have the gooey brownie with extra chocolate chips
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or nuts or sprinkles because there are lots of gooey brownies
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out there. Mhmm. So, you know, that is, you
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know, part of the thing that I see when I when I talk to you
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that you can help people see what you know, help them see
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what their uniqueness and how to talk to people. You
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know? And the other thing that you said that I you know, I'm gonna take
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a step back, is people need to know
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Okay. That was pretty judgmental. People
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need to know. No, I think people shy away from high ticket
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products and they make your life
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so much easier because the people that are willing to invest
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in themselves, one, they trust you enough
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that they probably are going to listen to you and you can, you know,
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give them ideas and you can, you know, have fun with them.
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But the other thing is
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besides being easier to work with, you like working with them,
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and they probably will stay with you, you know, as opposed
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to the person that you're trying to persuade or sell a low ticket item
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to that you have to do it over and over and over and over again.
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I mean, you're you're it's like being a hamster on a treadmill.
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Yeah. So why why do people have trouble making
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that that transition? What have you seen?
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Yeah. So, I mean, there's a few reasons why why people
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have a hard time finding that right messaging. I mean, for 1, we're
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surrounded by really bad marketing and messaging out there. And so then we're like,
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well, I guess it's how I need to do it. And then we rely
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and and sometimes we see stuff that's working, but it's, like, ultimately just really not
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what's gonna align with our values. There's there's marketing that works, you know, that
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uses fear and shame and pressure or whatever. And and so, you
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know, sometimes we end up borrowing tactics or or trying things that ultimately
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are just not really aligned with our values and our our strengths, our our
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message. Right? And so what's really important, and and here's a simple
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framework that I give people, is there's 3 r's that you're trying to nail down.
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The first one is relevance, the second one is resonance, and the third one is
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remarkability. Relevance is the one, I think, that we most
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often understand when it comes to marketing, and that is that we need
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to be talking about
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talking about the the issues, the needs, the the challenges,
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the outcomes that our intended audience, our ideal
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client is actively thinking about on a regular basis. Not
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about our solution, not about the features of what we do, but it's like,
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hey. Are you somebody who is facing this issue and you're worried about
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x, y, and z, and you've tried a, b, and c, and and they go,
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yes. That's me. So, like, the better we understand what they're thinking
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about as they wake up in the morning worried about whatever, as they go to
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sleep at night. And not to just, like, leverage that fear, but to go empathize
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with and go, like, look, I get it. And they go, like, I think you're
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talking to me. Resonance then is talking about
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those things in a way that reflects the the values that we
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have, our personality. I mean, you know, it's there are so many different
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people that could help you, get better at, let's
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say, productivity. Right? But some people are gonna be like, on the hustler end of
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the spectrum, and some of us will not respond well to that. And some of
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us would be more on the end of, like, self compassion and finding something that
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works for you. And that might resonate with you better. I mean, that's a very
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simple example. But talking about these things in a way where they
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go like, hey, you feel like somebody I could hang out with, that I could
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trust, that, like, you know, you're my kind of person. I see
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myself reflected in what you are saying. And so that's that's resonance. And
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sometimes we shy away from that. We go so much into the credibility side of
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things that we neglect to give that resonance piece for people to latch
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onto and go, you know what? I can trust you.
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Remarkability then is knowing, like, okay, what is it about our message
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that that that offers something different than what they've heard before? And
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it doesn't mean that it has to be, like, a 100% unique from anything that's
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ever been said before, but it means understanding, like, okay, what have they
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heard? What have they tried? What are they tired of hearing over and over again?
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What are the things they're worried about? What are the things that they have made
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bad assumptions about? What are the things that they don't realize that they need to
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know in order to really make a and and bringing something new whether when they
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bump into you, not only do they say, hey, this is relevant to something I'm
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trying to accomplish and overcome. This is resonant with the
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kind of stuff that I trust. But, also, this is different than I've heard it
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before, and I'm having some like, a new perspective, a new hope to be able
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to move forward where I felt stuck for a little while. And if you can
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bring all 3 of those r's, relevance, resonance, and remarkability,
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now you've got a message and an offer that can really stand out in the
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market and align with the people that you know you can do
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your best work with. And and and this
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may you can disagree with me if you want. But one of the
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things in terms of relevance,
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like I said, I I was very hesitant to network. But one of the things
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that I found the value of networking is relevance. It
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was a place for me to try new things when I was introducing
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myself. Right. And, it's interesting because I put
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in this thing is if you're a person who has spent a lot of
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money in high ticket programs and not gotten the results that you want,
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And everybody in the room goes like this, you know, if you're in the
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right the right networking. Because I my story that I
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tell is I spent $25,000 for a year long program
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and didn't know who my ideal client was when I was finished.
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Right? And then I went to a 3rd a 30 minute free
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call, and it was like they opened the curtain. It was like, oh my
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god. This is it. Do you know? And people are like
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people are like, you know, that's me. I had
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that experience. You know? And in terms
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of I forgot
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something else that you said, but it was like it kind of, it basically
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was my story, the pieces the pieces to my story
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that I had to find what resin you know, what people, like, hooked on
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to. You know? The other thing that I started saying is
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in 2020, I lost I, you know, I lost my business.
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I went in the hospital for something that was not COVID related. I was
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doing executive directing, for nonprofits, being
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directors of nonprofits. Right. When I came out, the world was shut down for
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COVID. They didn't have the money to pay their staff, so they definitely did not
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have the money for me. And instead of having a well oiled business, I
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had a junk drawer filled with courses and programs and
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downloadables and just stuff I had collected. And everybody went, yeah. I got
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that too. Right. So, you
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know, that to me is one of the I think it's
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networking is like a nice testing place. Yeah.
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Sure. Absolutely. Yeah. It's a way to, like, try out different language and and
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bouncing different things around and see how people respond. Absolutely.
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So, I think the other thing is, what you
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talked so we have relevance,
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Resonance? Resonance. Yes. And remarkability. So the
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resonance, I think, is really important because you have to be comfortable in your own
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skin. Mhmm. You know, you have to set your own boundaries. I
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mean, I I I think that it's it's you know, people
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say, well, try this. Try this. Try this. And to
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me, you know, some some of the sales techniques that are out
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there are very much used car salesman to me.
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It's like, I don't need this. Do you know? I'm a full grown adult. I
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don't need you to shame me into buying this or or whatever the case may
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be. Right. And, you know, remarkability is
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you know, part of the issue with that is that
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society has not taught us to be remarkable or to recognize where
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Or to recognize. Yes. Not to recognize. Right. Like, there's all kinds of things that
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squashes. You know, we're taught to be, like, humble. We're taught to, like, discount
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what it is that sets us apart. We assume that everybody else thinks or or
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approaches things the same way and realizes the same things we do.
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Yeah, absolutely. Society does not do a good job of helping us with that. And
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and I think that, you know, for me, that's another relevant
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thing is that it's not your fault. You know? That
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you have been taught to, you know, like that old saying, hide your light under
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a bushel instead of getting out there. And I think that
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once you can once once you can feel good about
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yourself, recognize that you do have this uniqueness because we
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tend to we don't recognize our own uniqueness. I mean, we tend to
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go, what do you mean? Not everybody can't do this?
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100%. Yeah. So let before we run out of time, give me give
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me you've given me a lot of nuggets. So if if you haven't
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found something to work on, I don't know I don't know what
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you've been listening to. But but if you were to say, here are the 3
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things that I think you should do. Yeah.
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Aside from the 4 r's. The 4 r's could be 1. Yeah.
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Well, so, I mean, really, the crux of what I'm getting at here is that,
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you know, a a shift that I made in my life and business that has
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made a big difference for me is focusing more on my
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strengths or, what I've also heard called unique
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ability by one of my mentors for many, over the years, Dan
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Sullivan, of strategic coach. And, you know, there's different
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people who talk about this, but it's this idea that that's another thing that society
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teaches us to do is, like, focus on where we're weak and try to improve
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that or fix it. It's like, yeah, you know what? No. There's something about the
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way we think and our perspective and our experience and our just inherent
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strengths that allow us to show up in the world in a way that's, let's
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just say, you know, above the average of what others might be able to do.
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It's something that fulfills us and brings us energy to create immense value for
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others. It's the kind of thing that people will recognize in us and go, like,
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yeah, I can totally depend on you and turn to you for these kinds of
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things. And so the better we can understand that and then incorporate
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it into everything we do in life. Our I I I think about this in
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my parenting. I think about it with my clients. I'm always trying to help my
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clients find the marketing strategy that aligns with their strengths.
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The way of working with clients that aligns with their strengths.
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And so that's that's what I'd love people to to recognize is
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that whatever you're doing, like, you have that unique ability, those strengths. So some
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simple things you can do. One would be get feedback about
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these things. Like, pick out a few colleagues, a few
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trusted, like, family members, some maybe clients you've worked with, and just send
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them an email. And I know it can feel vulnerable, but I'll tell you, the
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value you get back from this, and people are more than happy to help, is
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they say, you know what? I'm working on really trying to,
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identify what sets me apart and what my strengths are. You can even say, like,
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I'm happy to get, you know, to reflect back to you what I the same
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for you. But what is it that you think really I I know I'm
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especially good at? What do you see me thriving at at doing?
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What, what is it that you feel like you can really depend on me for
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and and turn to me for? And then look for the commonalities. Like, send 10
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of these emails out. Look at the commonalities, and that's gonna give you a lot
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of insight about where you really stand out.
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Another very simple action or tool, if that that sounds too scary, there's
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a wonderful book. I'm looking over here in my bookshelf to see if I can
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grab it, really quickly. I'm not seeing it readily. But, anyway, it's a book called
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Strengths Finder 2.0. This is by the Gallup Organization.
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Lots of research. It's been around for years, and it's like a 20 minute you
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buy a book. It comes with a code to take an online assessment. It takes
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about 15, 20 minutes to answer some questions. And out of 30 strengths that they've
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categorized, they tell you the 5 that really set you apart. And for instance,
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one of mine is I'm a strategic thinker. And I I didn't realize
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until I started really diving into this that it's like, oh, there's a way that
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I see systems and the pieces that are connecting and the possibilities moving
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forward that not everybody thinks that way. And that's fine because there's there
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are other people with, like, positivity strengths and, like, cheerleading strengths
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and really encourage, like, maybe that aren't as much mine. Right?
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But I have found that it's like, hey. When I emphasize that strategic thinking, that's
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that's what my my clients really depend on me for. And when I emphasize that
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as, like, hey. This is something I do well that I wanna bring to to
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you and what you're trying to do, that people know it's like, yes. That is
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what I need. So StrengthsFinder 2.0 is another great,
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step. So whether you you do that, hey. Send a handful of emails out to
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get some feedback and see what the commonalities are, or go and buy the
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StrengthsFinder 2.0 book. And you get the 5 strengths and you read and it and,
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the 5 chapters about your strengths, and it tells you, here's where you're gonna thrive.
23:04
Here's what you should try to do more of. And if you're really frustrated, it
23:07
might be because of these things. These are the things maybe to consider, like, removing
23:10
from your life or trying to avoid because it's just not gonna be where you
23:14
shine. And I found that the more that I do that and help my clients
23:17
do that, the more success and fulfillment we we see.
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So tell us about your free gift before we run out because I think it
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it ties in very nicely with what we've
23:30
been talking about. Yeah. Absolutely. So one of the things I
23:33
I've heard the most, feedback from my clients that they find really
23:37
valuable is this process we called, I call the signature method framework. And
23:41
so what I do is I help, you know, my the coaches and consultants I
23:45
work with come up with their signature approach to
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delivering results to their clients. So they know who their ideal client is. This is
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who I love working with. And they've and if they need help figuring out what
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those people really want most and looking for most, I help them with that. But
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then the key piece in the middle is, okay, what's the approach, the steps you
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take, the tools you you use, the the strengths you
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bring to the situation that guide your ideal clients
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to their highly desired outcomes in a way that sets you
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apart from everyone else. And when you nail that
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down, what you end up and there's a lot of different ways you can use
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this, but essentially, you end up with this brandable thing where it's like, hey. Like,
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I have a signature framework called the scalable genius method. And
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it's my approach to helping coaches and consultants serve far more people
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without sacrificing their sanity, working less, and still giving
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amazing results. Right? And so that is a
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process that I have refined over the years using my strengths.
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And so I'm able to, like, teach workshops on that. I'm able to,
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like, bring up a visual of that when I'm talking to a potential client. I
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create content around that. My clients talk about how it becomes a strategic
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filter for their business. It gets them very clear and confident on what they need
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to focus on. So the signature method is a way of bringing about what we're
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talking about here, your remarkability factor, your strengths,
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and presenting in a way that says, here's why I am
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if you are my ideal client, here's why I am your must have solution for
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getting you to those outcomes that I know that you want.
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And so I've got a freebie where you can get started on
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this process with my signature method framework. It's a little worksheet and a short
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video to get you started so that you can start teasing out those things and
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figuring out like, oh, this is what makes me different from the other experts out
25:29
there that do what I do. If you guys don't jump on
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this, I don't know what's wrong with you because this is
25:37
a I've heard Jason talk, and I'm
25:41
glad that I have, and you're gonna wanna have this. So,
25:47
the last thing before we took not totally the last thing, but here's
25:50
here's my fun question for you. Sure. Yeah. When was the last time that
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you did something new for the first time? Yeah. Something
25:58
new for the first time.
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So, so a couple of things come to, to mind.
26:08
One thing one thing that that jumps out is, that came to
26:11
mind was going and trying out, kickboxing. And here's the
26:15
reason why I I did that. Like, I don't consider myself a particularly, like,
26:19
athletic person. You know, in middle school, I tried out for a basketball team. I
26:22
made it, and I did that into the high school. And then I realized, man,
26:25
sports do not make me happy. I don't like the culture of it at all,
26:28
and I went into band. I became a band geek instead. However,
26:32
recently, you know, a little while back, I was thinking about, you know what? I
26:34
want a way to be more active. You know, we're all looking for ways to
26:38
be more active and exercise and take care of ourselves
26:41
and, you know, you know, the things that help with our mental health and our
26:44
physical health. Right? And I knew about me that one of the things I
26:48
needed in order to really engage with those kinds of goals was
26:52
some number 1, like, to be involved with other people so that I'm not I'm
26:56
an introvert, but I know that, like, hey. If I'm gonna show up with other
26:59
people, it's gonna give me some extra energy for that moment. And
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I knew that I needed to engage my curiosity about something. And I was
27:07
like, well, you know what? I'm kind of fascinated by this idea of kickboxing
27:11
and just, you know, what it's like to learn that as a discipline and apply
27:14
it whether it's to self defense or fitness or whatever. And so
27:18
that's one thing that I went and tried in, like, probably got me into some
27:21
of the best shape that I've been in. I I've lost some of that sense.
27:25
I'm not saying I'm in that shape right now because different things have gotten in
27:28
the way. But the big takeaway lesson there was I was asking
27:31
myself, okay. What's something I'm really curious about that I can go and pursue that
27:35
will then align with some of these goals I'm trying to to reach?
27:39
And kickboxing was one of those things that did that for me. And as I'm
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saying this out loud, I'm like, I should go and figure out, okay, either go
27:44
find a new kickboxing gym or run that
27:48
process again and find the next thing that's gonna engage my curiosity to keep me
27:51
healthy. But, that that's what comes to mind from that question. In my
27:55
house right now, the the the new physical thing is Pilates.
27:59
Oh, no. It's okay. My family apparently travels in a
28:03
in a in a pack. So my daughter got interested,
28:07
then she got my husband interested, and now her sister is doing it.
28:11
So, you know, the and the push, of course, is that, mom, you need to
28:14
do this. But, anyway, so that might be my answer. You know? Well and
28:18
then there's a good lesson there. Right? There's so many ways to be active and
28:21
exercise and move, and that's the most important thing. It's like we figured out it's
28:24
like, look. We just need to move our It doesn't have to be going to
28:27
the gym and lifting weights. I've also figured out I love riding my
28:30
bike. I hate going to the gym to lift weights, but I can get myself
28:34
on a bike listening to an audiobook and get my cardio going. Right? So just
28:37
figure out what aligns with, like, what's naturally enticing
28:41
to your strengths and and who you are. Right? So it kinda goes back to
28:44
everything we've been talking about today. And kind of kind of what you
28:47
need. Do you know? Absolutely. Yeah. Alright. So I
28:51
gotta give the commercial. And so what I would really like from
28:55
everybody who's listening to this is if you would take a minute and if you've
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enjoyed this to subscribe and to share and then engage on, you
29:02
know, this podcast on social media. And one of the reasons
29:06
that I did this is because I don't think, you know, you
29:10
can entrepreneurship is a long road. And so I'm trying
29:13
to help create a vibrant community and help fuel your
29:17
quest for growth and impact. And if you're
29:20
here, then that means that you're looking for some of
29:24
those tiny shifts that can yield monumental transformations.
29:28
And if you haven't listened to the first episode, you might wanna go back and
29:32
see who else is the the first episode and see who else is out there
29:36
as well. But people have got amazing gifts and
29:39
and insight that you can benefit from on your
29:43
own schedule. Right? So, Jason,
29:47
as we finish up, what are your last words? What if you had to, you
29:50
know, put a quote together, some last minute
29:54
kind of things, what would you say? Well, I just, you know, anybody
29:58
who maybe has listened to what we said and is still like that little bit
30:01
of doubt in their mind, they're like, I just don't know. I I I'm, you
30:04
know, life has told you that you're not as smart as you think you are
30:07
or, you know, I've had clients where, like, they felt like, oh, their exuberance and
30:11
positivity was always squashed because it felt like too much for people, but that was
30:15
their actual strength that applied the right way. Like, so there's all again, all these
30:19
things that, like, just give yourself that moment to, like,
30:22
explore a bit. Like, no. You know what? There is something that sets you
30:26
apart, and your whether it's DNA, nature, nurture,
30:30
the experiences you've been through, the the,
30:35
the education that you've had, whatever, the challenges that you've conquered,
30:38
put you in a place to offer something unique to the world, and we
30:42
absolutely need everyone to elevate that. It's not a competition. It's not
30:46
a zero sum game. It's about us all figuring out how we can best
30:50
live fulfilling energetic lives that also just create immense value
30:53
for whoever we decide we wanna create that value for.
30:57
So just, you know, any of the little tips that we've given today, like, pick
31:00
one thing, lean into it, and see if you can find even 5%
31:04
more of that, awareness and confidence in,
31:08
like, what your strengths and unique ability or
31:11
signature method are that you have to offer to the world. Absolutely.
31:15
Absolutely. I can't believe we're
31:19
out of time, and I think we could probably go on for another half
31:22
an hour. But but we have to stop. So
31:27
the the last thing that I wanna say that I always end with
31:30
is that change is simple, but it's not always easy. And
31:34
and if you don't make some changes, you're gonna stagnate because
31:38
the world is constantly changing. And sometimes change
31:41
requires courage, resilience, and a willingness to step out of your comfort
31:45
zone. So get the freebie, do something different,
31:49
do something new for the first time, step out of your comfort zone,
31:53
discover more of who you are. And I hope you will join me again on
31:57
on the one small change. And if you, again, if you haven't seen the first
32:01
episode or any of the other ones, you're gonna wanna do that. But
32:04
I think it's gonna help you have a bolder vision and have more innovative
32:08
possibilities. Jason, thank you so much for everything that
32:12
you've done for me and everything that you're doing for my
32:16
audience. And, you definitely need to pick up his,
32:20
his free gift because it will help you make the changes that you
32:23
need. Thank you. Yeah. My pleasure. Thank you, Yvonne.