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130: Vanderpump Rules - Lake It or Break It (S11 E5) · Reality TV Cringe

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Hello, and welcome to Reality TV Cringe. I am one of your hosts,
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do. And today what we're doing is talking about vander Pump Rules. What
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are we on? Episode four, Episode five, Episode five? I know,
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God, we need to be getting into some actual content and drama.
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Are we just on a tom Sand of All Redemption tour? I can't with
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that. I don't want to have sympathy for this dude. He's a loser.
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I don't want to see him cry over and over and over again,
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like take off his sunglasses on purpose so that you can see that there's a
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tear there. I know, Like Jesus, how manipul it is. It's
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Thank you. Right before we get into the episode, there were a couple
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of items in the news that came forth, one regarding Raquel or Rachel Levice
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and another regarding Tom and Ariana and their continuing attempts to try and deal with
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the house that they both own. Okay, so let's start with Raquel.
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Rachel came out today that she is suing Tom Sandoval and Ariana Maddox for revenge
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porn? What like, for her revenge porn for her well, for porn?
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So what ended up happening was Arianna went into Tom's phone one night while
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Tom was performing with the Most Extras. She had a womanly intuitive hunch.
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She went into his phone. She saw a video of Tom and Raquel or
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Rachel having FaceTime sex. She sent that video to herself, which I believe
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she admitted on the show, and that is the distribution I think of the
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revenge porn. I'm not sure if Tom sent it around. I'm not sure
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who Arianna showed it to if she did, but it sounds like Raquel is
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maintaining that they distributed this sexual video, and she's also saying she had she
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was not somebody who consented. So again, Tom recorded their FaceTime sex,
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Yeah, without her knowing. So then sue, Tom, why are you
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doing Ariana? I think that's stupid personally. I mean, I don't know,
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and I'm like, fuck around and find out. Raquel, Like,
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I mean, you fucked around with Tom Sandoval. He's a piece of shit,
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He's a scumbag. I'm not saying she deserves this, because nobody deserves
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revenge porn, but I'm just like, did she know that the porn existed?
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Like, did she know he recorded it? I don't think she knew
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that she did not know that he recorded it, and I don't believe that
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she knew that it existed, not until it was distributed. And this is
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how Ariana found out. And then Ariana told Sena while Shehena and Raquel were
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in New York to do watch What Happens Live. I'm not sure if she
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sent it to Sena. She may have. And then that's when Shina punches
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Raquel and they get the restraining order and this whole thing starts to go down.
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Well, there is a statement that was released by Rachel's attorney. I'm
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not gonna read the entire thing, but I'm going to read part of it.
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And then there is another attorney who's weighing in about the veracity of this
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case, like whether it has legs. Oh god, Okay. From Rachel's
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lawsuit, they say Scanned of All injected New Life into a previously faltering series,
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causing its viewership to explode to unseen levels and making its cast members mega
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celebrities due to a narrative deliberately fomented by Bravo Evolution, and the cast Levis
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became an object of public scorn and ridicule. To be clear, Levis has
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repeatedly acknowledged that her actions were morally objectionable and deeply hurtful traumatic. She has
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offered numerous apologies. There is more to the story, however, Lost in
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the mix was that Levis was a victim of the predatory and dishonest behavior of
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an older man who recorded sexually explicit videos of her videos m laural Interesting without
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her consent, which were then distributed, disseminated, and discussed publicly by a
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scorned woman seeking vengeance. That's Ariana catalyzing the scandal. Levis ultimately checked herself
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into a mental health facility and remained there for three months while Bravo, Evolution
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and the Cast milked the interest her exoriation had peaked. To make matters worse,
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Levis was misled by Bravo and Evolution into believing that she was contractually barred
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from speaking out about her mistreatment. As a result, she suffered in silence
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as Bravo and Evolution watched viewership explode and the rest of the cast enjoyed unseen
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levels of public recognition and professional opportunity. Meanwhile, Levice, who was humilian,
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who was humiliated and villainized for public consumption, remains a shell of her
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former self, with her career prospects stunted and her reputation in tatters. Yikes,
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well, now I feel bad for my fuck around and find out comment.
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I mean, well, when you put it into the context of Rachel
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being a young woman, right, who falls under the spell if you will,
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of an older, attractive man who's the number one guy in the group.
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And she I think was an opportunist from the very beginning, like she
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was a fan, she met James and that's how she got into the group.
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But you can see how she was ripe for picking totally yea and to
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take advantage of And you can also see how Tom is the kind of personality
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that would absolutely take advantage of that situation, right. I just wonder what
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the extent of like the distribution and the dissemination, yeah, that Arianna did,
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because I mean if she just sent it to herself and then told people
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about it, I mean, I don't know if that really counts as like
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distributing. It'd be one thing if she like posted that shit on ig right
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or something, or like post it on like the Underweds everywhere. Oh my
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god, that'd be horrible. That would be so terrible for Rachel's sake and
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everything. But if she just sent it to herself and then nobody else,
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I mean, but I mean, even if she showed her real tight homegirls,
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can you imagine if you got if you got cheated on and you found
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out by going through your husband's phone or your wife's phone, you send that
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to yourself and then you show your best friend, like, look what I
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just found? Right? Is that really distributing revenge porn? Right? That
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doesn't feel like it? But I don't think the law cares about our feelings.
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No, in regard to that. And to that end, there is
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an attorney who makes a comment about this lawsuit, and I think it's Mark
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Geragos. He's kind of a celebrity attorney who's been involved in a lot of
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different cases and trials, and he says, this lawsuit is squarely about illegal
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behavior and those who traffic in it and enable it. Rachel has apologized for
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her part in an affair that's not a crime. Tom and Ariana are alleged
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here to have engaged in actual criminal acts. They then doubled down and use
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those actions to shame, bully, belittle, and intentionally try to destroy Rachel's
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mental health. The law makes it clear that recording someone without their consent and
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distributing that illegal recording is punishable by law. However, doing so while knowingly
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enticing them to engage in those sexual acts deserves the harshness of penalties allowable under
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law. So I get it, yeah, and I understand it. But
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is that really what happened here? Because Tom Sandoval didn't show Ariana the video,
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and we can't assume that he showed anybody else the video. He may
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have he's a gummy guy, he's a shit, but we don't have that
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information or evidence at this time. So he took the video. Is that
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a crime? I think so, because without her consent that would be criminal,
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right, and I think in California, like you have to have permission
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from both parties in order to record something, So he shouldn't have done that,
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And maybe that's a crime, But we don't actually know if he disseminated
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it. If anybody actually disseminated it, it would probably have been Ariana.
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Yeah, but has showed her friends. But did she send it to her
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friends or did she show it to them on her phone? And if she
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sent it to her friends, then those friends could have sent it to anybody
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else, but it's fruit from the poisonous street. It's well, that's a
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legal term and it doesn't apply. But if it comes from her though,
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and ultimately gets to one hundred people, she's responsible criminally, right, Yeah,
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then she's as well, then she's totally fucked and then they're gonna have
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to settle on something. So but like the whole like intentionally destroying her mental
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health, I mean I don't know, like what extent did they intentionally destroy
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her mental health? Like that's the same kind of argument that Sandoval is doing,
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Like everybody destroyed my mental health to the point where like I wanted to
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unlive myself. It's like, well, I mean you brought it on yourself,
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you kind of these are the actions, Like this is the consequences to
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your actions. So I don't know about that part. But like the distribute
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distribution of her tapes that she didn't consent to, yikes. Yes, And
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if it really did stunt her ability to have professional opportunities, she's gonna have
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to prove that up. She's gonna have to show damages. But like if
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she can show that, well, she obviously isn't on vandr Pump rules right,
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that was a great opportunity. But from what I understand, that was
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her, Like they wanted her to come back, and I think Lisa Vanderpump
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actually gave a statement and like, we offered her a lot of money to
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come back, and she also made a good deal of money while she was
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here, oh, profiting off of everything. But again, I say,
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I have much more compassion for Rachel Raquel because she's a younger person. She's
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not a kid. I'm a child. She should know better, Like what
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she did was wrong, and she acknowledges that. But I feel for her
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being in kind of a fucked up, holl weird situation in this weird group
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of clout chasers, trying to find your place and falling under the spell of
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like this magnetic guy, yeah, who's totally a manipulative, horrible narcissist,
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who totally could have told her anything like, oh yeah, me and Arian
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are on the fritz. We have a horrible relationship. It's just you,
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baby, I want you. And then fucking videotaping her. Oh that's so
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terrible. That's so fucking bad. It's really bad. I think there's like
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a Netflix documentary about revenge porn and how this is becoming like more and more
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of a thing where like horrible, awful men are recording women without their consent
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and then just posting it on fucking porn hubbed shit. That's so terrible.
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We have to make examples out of each and every one of them. And
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I think the laws are getting stronger and stronger about this and guys really are
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fucking around and finding out. Wow. Well, we definitely will continue to
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watch it. What I what I kind of felt when I was reading from
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her actual lawsuit. It feels to me like maybe she's focusing right now on
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Tom and Ariana around the revenge porn and their part in what happened to her,
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But like it also feels like at some point she's going to bring in
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Bravo and Evolution the production company, because she's saying that they fomented or they
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made all of this worse. They also told her she couldn't actually speak out
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and say anything, so she was suffering in silence. It feels like like
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I'm actually surprised that Bravo and Evolution were not included in this lawsuit. Why
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only Tom and Ariana Does she have the money to sue huge corporate entities like
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Bravo and whatever. The thing. I think that she has a family,
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of means, I do think she has a family that can back her up.
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And I also think there's a lot of lawyers who would love to take
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a lawsuit like this. Really, Oh my god, so be watching.
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It's very interesting personally, and then I'll wrap this up. I mean just
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but I'm like, this is so interesting to me. But personally I would
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sue the fuck out of Tom. But after what I did to Arianna,
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I would not sue her. I mean, even though that's fucked up.
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I'm really pissed you showed your friends or you sent it to Shena. I'm
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not gonna go after you because I shouldn't have done what I did, right,
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unless Ariana did actually distribute it to other people who like, actually send
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it to people, Because if she did that, then Ariana sucks and that's
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pretty shitty. Like regardless, if this is your man's mistress, like,
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you don't fucking just send out your nudies or these bad tapes and these sexy
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tapes and stuff to everybody just because you're bitter. Well, yeah, you
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don't do that, but you also don't fuck your best friend's guy while her
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grandmother's dying or is passing and she's losing her dog and all of the things
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that Raquel did, Like, I would feel so bad for everything that I
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did that I would leave Ariana out of it. But like, we don't
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know the scope of what Ariana did, if she did anything at all.
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I'm sure they can get their phone records and they can find out if she
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sent something to somebody and who that was, and maybe they will. I
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think discovery would be really interesting. I think depositions would be really interesting.
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So we're going to be following this because well it's interesting. I'm excited.
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And the last thing I wanted to talk about before we get into the episode
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is this Tom versus Ariana and the house situation. Apparently, Arianna fould a
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lawsuit she wants to i think, compel the sale of the house, and
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Tom Sandoval is fighting Arianna as she tries to force the sale of their home,
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claiming he loaned her a big chunk of change that he wants back before
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selling the crib they shared. According to new Gould docs obtained by TMZ,
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Tom alleges he loaned Ariana ninety thousand dollars and that she hasn't paid him back.
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Yet more importantly, Tom wants Ariana to fork over the dough before a
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judge potentially orders them to sell the house and split the proceeds. In his
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response to Ariana's lawsuit, he also says he has a lien on the house
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that's directly tied to this alleged loan to her. Interesting, and he says
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no sale can go down until this is dealt with. As we first told
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you, Ariana is suing Tom over the Los Angeles house that they own.
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They lived there as a couple. Blah blah blah. Tom's so far resisted
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and now it's looking like he's digging in his heels and claiming that she needs
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to settle up with him over this loan before selling the house. So that's
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interesting. So there's a lean on the house, So what is it like
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she owes the money on the house for the lean that you took out,
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and I don't know, she also owes all of these bill payments and shit
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like, Well, she didn't put a lien on the house. And so
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usually a lien is put on your house when you owe money and your house
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is up as collateral for that money. Yeah, and you're defaulting on the
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loan or you're not paying it, and so like for example, with taxes,
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if you don't pay your taxes to the irs, they can put a
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lien on your home. So that's interesting that there would be alean on this
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house that he's saying is connected to ninety thousand dollars he lent Ariana. And
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I'm wondering if he's talking about the mortgage payments she hasn't been making for the
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last eight eight months, which would have been probably about ten thousand dollars a
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month for her on a two million dollar house. You're probably paying twenty thousand.
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I don't know how much bank, but maybe that's what he's talking about.
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But that's not a loan. That's just her saying you didn't give me
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the receipts and so I'm not going to pay you and overbay you because you've
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been lying to me. That's what I was confused of. I'm like,
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this is this an addition ninety dollars in like on top of everything that you
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say she already owes her. If it's just all of the bill payments that
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she hasn't paid allegedly right. But then Arianna said a couple episodes ago that
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the mortgage payments that she was being told to pay to Tom were an overpayment.
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So she's like, I'm not paying this shit until you tell me by
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five dollars, like how much of an overpayment? Like you know you owe
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the mortgage every month though, right, Like you know approximately how much it
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is because you know how much the house is and how much you refined it
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for because you did the refinance with him. So I just think she just
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stopped paying because she wanted to be petty. And I don't hate her for
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that. I mean I don't either. She's gonna have to settle up.
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Yeah, But I could also see Tom saying like, oh, yeah,
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i'll pay x amount and you pay this amount, But then he's just pocketing
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like the extra that she's paying, he's over. Like I don't know.
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Their finances seem so fucking messy, like way more messy than like the Browns.
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I mean, I know they don't got bankruptcies and stuff, but that
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lean on that house is interesting. All of the shit that they've gone in
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on, Like he's apparently done all these repairs on the house, so he's
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got all this money tied to it, and then she owns all the fucking
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furniture and stuff in the house, right, which was interesting. Oh my
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god, beautiful furniture. I wonder how much that is worse? I know,
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I want to tally of everything, thousands, probably it's got to be
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right, Oh my god. Yeah, So this would be interesting to follow
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what happens with those two so many if we ever get to it. I
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mean, that's it. The most interesting thing about this season that they should
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absolutely be covering is what are they doing legally? What's happening with the division
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of the assets? Like how does that work? Like that's what we want
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to see, but that's not what we're getting. Instead, we're having photoshoots
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with Lisa vander Pump with wolves and Graham Cracker the Dog And I'm like,
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I don't care though, And Brock and Shea in this episode, I do
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care about that because I hate him more and more as the weeks go by.
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This brock Fellow, yeah, but I'm just like, Sheena is inseufferable
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too. I don't want to talk about them or fucking sand of All crying
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in his green blazer for us to care about him. Like I don't care
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that you're sad. Yeah, like you're sad for a reason. You did
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this to yourself and cry more. And I feel like he's just putting eye
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drops in his eyes to make himself cry. God allah, Love is Blind?
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What that dude from Love is Blind? Did he? Oh? Not
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this season? But it was the last season of Love and Blind. Yeah,
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there was that guy who was actually putting vizine drops in his eyes during
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his talking head and not thinking that production was going to show it, but
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they did stop. So maybe Tom is doing something like that. I wouldn't
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be surprised. It really feels like production is participating though with this redemption arc,
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like they really want us to feel bad. Why I don't understand,
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Like, after this blow up of season ten that was so insane, and
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you know all of your viewers hated Tom Sandoval and still do, why are
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you trying to force this redemption arc literally the next season when nobody fucking likes
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him. I think it's because Scandival was like the biggest thing to happen to
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the franchise in many years, and so they want Tom to stay centered at
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this time in this season. I think it's also because maybe I wonder if
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they have a sense that Ariana's not going to be around forever, because like
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you'd have to watch the previous seasons to understand that, like she really wasn't
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doing much. She was really just an appendage of Tom Sandival. It was
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Tom and Ariana, but like she didn't really do anything or contribute much in
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my opinion, to the show. So maybe they understand that she's probably cycling
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out of the franchise, but Tom is the one that's going to stay.
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Yeah, so Tom might be the one that they think they have to redeem.
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I'm not saying it's right or that I agree, but maybe that's part
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of the motivation behind it. I don't get it. That's stupid, and
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I don't I don't want it. No, I don't want it at all.
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But I don't I don't know what's happening. And then all of the
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other cast members are just like, Okay, I guess, I know.
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I don't know what else to do. Let's just go to Tahoe, I
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guess, and have this conversation with Tom and James where James is like,
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I don't want to, but I have to because it's my job, right,
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I have to like you, So okay, we'll try and be friends
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again. Yeah, and Lala trying to suck Sandoval's dick. We'll get to
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it, yes, we will. Well, why don't we start with the
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episode? All right? Yapped a lot about well, this episode was kind
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of light on the content. There was a lot of just like it felt
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very fillery to me, like it was not they're getting to the meat of
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the episode or meat of the trip really next episode. It looks like all
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of the drama at Tahoe is going to happen next week. Boring, but
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everybody is getting ready to go to Tahoe this episode at the beginning, besides
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Katie and Arianna. Obviously, He's like, I don't care. I'm not
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missing out. I'm totally fine to I'm certainly not gonna be in a home
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with Tom and Tom those losers, thank you. And Ariana is like,
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I'm not going, of course, not because Sandoval is gonna be there,
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but she's like totally side eyeing all of the girls that are going, like
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Laala and Sheena, because she's like, what about the loyalty to me?
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Though? Why do you like Tom Sandival? All of a sudden, which
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seems like in the preview, Sena is gonna call Ariana and be like,
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yeah, I really feel for Tom now and I think we should be nice
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to him. And Ariana is gonna be pissed. She is gonna be pissed.
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But like the elephant in the room is the reality that this is everybody's
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job. This is how Sina makes money. This is one of the avenues
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into all of her other money, Like she needs to show up, Like
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and if Sheena doesn't film, Shina doesn't get paid. And so you're putting
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your friends who actually work with you. There are co workers as well,
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in like kind of a terrible position by asking them to pick sides. Maybe
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you think, well, if they don't go, we can film shit here
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in Los Angeles. But that's allboring. What do you have going on?
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I know it's your shop that doesn't open, that somebody's shit on your patio.
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What do you got going on? Like? I want to hear about
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your boyfriend? Yeah, I want to hear about all of the brand deals
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that are coming in that we all know that you got, Like why aren't
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you talking about that? More? Right? I would like to know about
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that? And also Katie's dating, Like when are we going to get to
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that? I know? And Katie's apparently dating a girl in like a relationship
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with a man. Lib Yeah, I do love alsbian fantasy, and I
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was not paying that for Katie. But I'm like, hey, I'm all
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about that. Yes, me too. Now we just need the gay fantasy
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to come true for Schwartz. Okay, girl, I pressed sad, little
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Schwartz. Listen, your daughter was watching this with me last night, and
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she has not been watching the show like she you know, sees it every
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once in a while when she comes out from playing video games in her cave
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and she's like this show again and walks away. But then last night she
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watched it with me and she saw the interact like she saw Schwartz look at
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Sandoval on the plane to Tahoe, and she immediately said, I have not
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told her any of this. She's like, oh, they're gay. They're
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fucking really And I'm like, did you get the vibe that I got?
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Like I hadn't even told her my gay conspiracy because I knew she wouldn't care,
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And she's like, no, they're totally fucking Do you guys think so?
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Like, are any of you guys out there thinking that maybe they that's
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the reason, Oh yeah, Schwartz is so ride or die for Tom is
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because they've got some sort of connection that goes beyond friendship. Schwartz is in
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love with Tom. I'm calling it dude, like broke Back Mountain style.
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They do it in secret. It's all hot and sweaty. Oh my god,
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I'm telling you woe your daughter had that same vibe. Well, if
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that's true, I would just wish that they could tell the truth or that
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we could know about it, because talk about something that that would outshine scandabal.
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If that came out, that'd be fantastic. I know, but I
25:04
don't know about all that. It's in my dreams, it is in your
25:07
dreams. I saw a clip of Sheena and Lala in Tahoe. I think
25:14
this is going to be on next week's episode, unless it was this week's
25:15
and I didn't realize it. But where Sena is actually talking about her conflict
25:21
over Tom, because she says during the pandemic she was really low on funds.
25:27
She wasn't making any money. They had discontinued her podcast, which obviously
25:33
she went on to start on her own, but like she was really worried
25:36
about money, and Tom sent her several thousand dollars without being asked, just
25:41
sent her several thousand dollars via PayPal, just to help her out because she
25:45
had just had summer moon. She had a lot going on in her life.
25:48
And so she's conflicted because she knew Tom before she knew Ariana. Tom
25:55
and her had a standalone friendship outside of Ariana. Tom has done some demonstrably
26:00
cool things to help Shina. Wow, So she's really torn up about having
26:07
to ice him out and not be friends. I mean, I guess that
26:11
makes sense, I guess, but it's hard for me to like see some
26:18
of the good and Tom Sandbal because I just think he's like super fucking manipulative.
26:22
I just think he he toys around with people and he just wants people
26:26
for the attention and for like the look of it all, because he's such
26:30
an extrovert. He's like, yeah, look at me, I've got all
26:33
these friends. It's like why he had all those randos for his birthday party,
26:37
Like it was just for appearances rather than just being a cool dude turning
26:41
forty one or whatever however old he is and just drinking a beer on the
26:45
couch. I feel like he's probably in the business of paying for his friendships
26:51
because with James, when James got engaged to Rachel Raquel, he gave James
26:57
i think twenty five thousand dollar toward his proposal, Like he has so much
27:02
fun with it, but like he has he seems to have a very generous
27:04
spirit, but it could be manipulative just to keep people around him and loyal
27:10
to him. Yeah, I know people like this am my real life.
27:14
I know people who think that that's what friendship means by just providing money and
27:19
they're like, yeah, you should think I'm a good person because I provide
27:23
so much for you, and this is how they are in their relationships too,
27:26
And I'm just like, it doesn't make a whole friendship. It doesn't
27:30
make a whole relationship if you're just giving people money because you think that that's
27:34
like the humanitarian thing to do, or like, yeah, the only way
27:37
people will stay around is if they can use you. Like that sets up
27:41
very bad relationships, yes, but I just yeah, I think this is
27:45
the conflict we're going to see begin to develop over the next few episodes,
27:48
is just Sheina being really conflicted and also perhaps Lalla certainly has it concerned Schwartz,
27:52
but also maybe Sandoval, although I think she fights with Sandoval in the
27:56
next episode about something. But anyway, I want to see that onward,
27:59
and let's keep going anyway. Yeah, everybody's, you know, getting ready
28:03
to go to Tahoe. Schwartz and Sandoval are going shopping, but Schwartz is
28:07
poor and can't come for anything, which is sad. But they start talking
28:11
about Rachel because Schwartz gets some notifications on his phone and he's like, oh,
28:15
Raquel changed her name to Rachel, and Sandoval's like, yeah, I
28:18
knew that already. And then he gets another notification and it's Rachel is out
28:22
of the mental health facility, and Sandoval's like, yeah, I knew that
28:26
already because I tried texting her and she ghosted me. And that I think
28:32
that hurts Sandoval's feelings. Oh yeah, I mean that's a narcissistic injury and
28:36
he's having a hard time getting over it. Yeah. I also think he
28:40
really wants Rachel to come back because it would be so flipping good for the
28:45
show. What if she does, what if it's been this whole thing,
28:48
like she doesn't show up or anything. But then she does like at the
28:51
very last episode and then comes back. I think she's coming back next season.
28:56
Oh yeah, and that's gonna get those all the way back up.
29:00
I just see what happens. I think Ariana might be gone by then.
29:03
I think if Rachel comes back, Ariana goes. I mean, yeah,
29:07
I would. I don't think we need Ariana. I'm sorry, I'm just
29:08
saying it. I don't think we need Ariana. It doesn't mean I'm not
29:11
team Mariana regard to what happened, but I just don't think she adds a
29:15
whole lot to the cast. Well, and I'm like, does she even
29:17
want to be involved. It doesn't seem like she wants to be It doesn't
29:19
seem like she genuinely likes anybody except for Katie. And yeah, I don't
29:23
think she wants to be there except for the paycheck. So you know,
29:26
we don't need you. Yeah bye. Although it was funny when her and
29:30
Katie were talking about their restaurant somebody shitting on their perch. Yeah, like
29:33
all of the regulations that they have to go through in the permits and the
29:37
things that they have to do. That's California for you. Know, it's
29:41
hard to be in business in California, so they're struggling. And I don't
29:44
think something about her is open to this day. I mean, is it
29:48
ever going to open? Is it a prop for the show? I mean
29:52
it feels like it a little bit. I feel like it's going to be
29:53
like Shorts and Sandy's taken forever to open, and then it's just going to
29:57
be a flop. Yeah. And then oh, and Sheena and Brock go
30:03
shopping for bikinis and they fight at the bikini store because Brock's super pissed that
30:08
Sheena is still nervous about leaving their baby with anybody. Like they just found
30:14
a nanny, and then the nanny doesn't pan out because she has to go
30:18
nanny for another family that just had a baby, and then nanny had a
30:21
baby herself, and it's this big old thing. And Brock doesn't want Sheena's
30:25
mom to be around all the time. So what does he want Sheena to
30:29
do? Right? Like, what is she supposed to pull out of her
30:33
ass to make him happy in this situation? Right? Like, she's dealing
30:37
with anxiety for which she has no compassion whatsoever. At least she has her
30:41
mom and her sister, they're right there. They help with the baby,
30:44
but Brock seems to really resent that, and he doesn't want his mother in
30:47
law to be around all the time. But like, summer Moon is young,
30:49
so you don't want them around. But at the same time, you
30:55
want to be gone all the time. You want to have date nights,
30:56
you want to go to Tahoe, you want to be able to have some
30:57
freedom in your relationship. So why don't you workshop that problem and why don't
31:03
you find out a solution instead of putting all that emotional labor onto Sina,
31:07
I know, and then yelling at her in public. In public, I'm
31:11
like, why are you bringing this up? And why are you talking about
31:12
her mommy issues? And shit, I'm like, dude, this guy is
31:17
a dick. Like he's just really harsh. I mean, he apologizes for
31:21
it later when they're in Tahoe, but that's like several days after the fact,
31:25
and I'm just like, this guy sucks. I feel like they're trying
31:26
to create and or force a storyline. I feel like he is, for
31:32
sure, because he wants to play more of a role in terms of the
31:34
cast, especially now that things are shifting around because he's nothing. And I
31:38
think this is like the way that he thinks he's gonna do it. But
31:41
you're coming off it's giving, weirdo, it's giving. What are you talking
31:47
about? Your wife has legitimate anxiety in OCD. She's like getting treated for
31:49
this, Like what are we doing here yelling at her and putting her down
31:53
for doing her very best. She's the fucking bread winner, bra for real
31:57
though. She's the one who bankrolled your dumb jym app which didn't go anywhere.
32:01
She's the one who's taking care of your entire life. And we're sitting
32:05
in this shop and you're yelling at her. Okay, I know, okay,
32:07
And I hate him, yeah, and I can't stand him. And
32:10
we don't need him, No, we don't. We do not need him.
32:14
We don't need she know though, either, because she keeps talking about
32:15
how she doesn't want to leave her baby, but then she's literally without her
32:19
baby all the time, right going to bars, going to tom. We
32:22
do need she know though, because she's an intermediary between certain of the cast
32:25
members, But like, we don't need Brock. Yeah whatsoever? He adds
32:30
nothing, And you know what really bothered me to was like how he talked
32:35
to Tom Sandoval. Now, yeah, Tom Sandoval's piece of fucking shit.
32:37
Yeah, but like when he's wearing his fucking speed out Brock with his long
32:42
silk robe, like because he's not a narcissister anything. No, and Tom
32:45
comes down and he immediately starts in on Tom. I mean, if I'm
32:49
Tom and I've been on this franchise for I don't know twelve years, and
32:52
I'm the number one guy in the group, which Tom, you know,
32:54
used to be. But like he's got more currency in this group than Brock
32:59
could ever have, like to presume for you to lecture me, I know,
33:02
some shit like who are you anyway? Like the second that they get
33:06
to Tale, hoh, I'm like give it a breath, like you're not
33:09
my friend. Yeah, you weren't there for me, Like you're nobody to
33:13
me. And again, I'm not taking up for Tom Sandival. I'm just
33:15
like, Brock, who do you think you are? I know you're literally
33:16
an NPC. You're the background character on the showy fuck off my TV dude.
33:22
Oh he suck. I know. It would have been way better if
33:24
James just like went in on Sandal the second that they got there, but
33:28
he didn't. Well, James did it the right way. James said,
33:31
hey, how are you doing. He's not coming in too strong, He's
33:35
like giving him a wide berth. They're gonna get to that conversation when it
33:38
happens organically. But like fucking Brock and Espiedo just being the moral voice of
33:44
the group, I'm like, I need you to fucking get off my TV.
33:47
I know. I'm like, oh, I don't like there's some about
33:50
him. I do not like, I'm telling you cheater vibes. Dude,
33:53
he just doesn't give me good vibes at all. He just seems like a
33:57
dick. He seems like he treats Sheena pretty bad. I don't know,
34:00
but she is also annoying and whatever. Yeah, But once they're all in
34:05
Tahoe and after Brock confronts Sandoval in the kitchen for some reason, everybody kind
34:09
of gets settled. And then Schwartz is like, yeah, I'm really glad
34:14
I brought the gang back together here, and you know, I'm trying to
34:16
get the family back and it's all because of me, right, I'm like,
34:20
oh god, right, this guy, Yeah, this fucking guy.
34:23
I can't stand him taking credit it's not really about peace in the group.
34:29
It's about I'm the one who did it. Yeah, so I get credit
34:31
for that. That's totally it. And it's kind of cringey. Oh.
34:36
And then in the car ride, before they even get to the house that
34:38
he rented for everybody, he's talking with Sandoval, and Sandoval starts crying right
34:44
and Sart's like, are you okay, buddy? But can we talk about
34:47
what he's crying about? He's hying because when they were all at the airport
34:51
and he went into the airport bar, like she said, hey, we're
34:53
over here, like in other words, you can sit by us, and
34:58
that's what he's crying about. Like that gesture was so meaningful to Like,
35:01
it was so I don't know, you know, like meaningful to me.
35:06
And he's got this fucked up glycer and tear coming down the side of his
35:09
face and I'm like, I don't care. I'm like, what is this?
35:14
I don't care? And then they cut to him in his talking head
35:17
in that fucked up green blazer with gold buttons, and he's crying more just
35:22
about how he's been in a dark plaze. I literally checked out. I'm
35:25
like, I need to hear your voice warpling. This is so fucking fake.
35:29
I am an empathic person. I mean women, we are too.
35:32
We're intuitive, Like I can see you and I know this is a manipulation
35:37
and you don't mean this shit. No, because as you mentioned last week,
35:40
like on the weekends, though, you're out with the most extras,
35:43
you're calling out Raquel and Tom Schwartz and you're having a great old time,
35:46
but you're crying in the car. Okay, yeah, like I sure,
35:50
sure, jam, we buy it. And even in his talking head in
35:52
that green blazer after he's done crying and he's talking about everybody, he's getting
35:57
settled at the at the house and he's like, well, it's nice,
36:00
but you know, most people are being cordial to me, but everybody's not
36:02
taking accountability for what they did to me, right and how they treated me,
36:07
and the podcasts and the merch and profiting off of my misery. And
36:10
I'm like, okay, I get it. But at the same time,
36:13
dude, you fuck around and you find out like you did the worst thing
36:16
on this cast, and you also fucking filmed this mistress that you were banging
36:22
without her consent, So that's another fucked up thing that you did, and
36:25
I'm sure nobody knows about that. Nobody's talking about it. I think at
36:30
this time people do know about it. At this time, what is it
36:34
July or August? I think that people know about the tape and that this
36:39
happened. Why we're not calling this despicable behavior out in the actual friend group
36:45
is beyond me. You'd think Bala or any of these girls would say something
36:50
about that, even though they hate Raquel, that's fine. At least you
36:52
would say something like, what the fuck are you doing? Tom? Yeah,
36:54
for real, that's against the law, and it's I don't know why
37:00
nobody maybe because of the legal ramifications of having that conversation on camera. Maybe
37:05
Bravo or Evolution doesn't want them to. But if that were me, he's
37:07
somebody in my friend group, I would be like calling his ass out.
37:12
Oh me too, I'd be like, fuck this dude. But instead Tom
37:16
gives this whole narrative, like this air that he's working on himself. When
37:22
they're out on the patio and everybody gets settled in their's swimsuits, He's like,
37:24
oh yeah, I'm sober. No, And I'm like, you know,
37:27
trying to really like word, go myself and be a better person.
37:30
Lalla's fucking ass is like, yeah, I think it's admirable that he's working
37:34
on himself. I'm like, really it, because that's her entire identity is
37:37
sobriety. So I feel like Tom is doing this intentionally to try and connect
37:43
with Lala because he knows that's really important to her and that if he gives
37:46
up liquor, that's going to be meaningful to her. So I just feel
37:50
like it's another way to like manipulate Lalla and the group. And I want
37:55
to say again, like, I think Tom Sandoval has the point here,
38:00
Like, Shena, you were absolutely gross. The lengths you went to to
38:05
profit off of everything that happened which did not happen to you. It didn't
38:07
happen to you, and the way that you made it about you is problematic.
38:12
And Lala, you did the same thing on your own podcast and in
38:15
your own way. Everybody profited about this situation and over what happened to Tom,
38:21
Like, I think there's a conversation that they could happen, that they
38:23
could have, and I think he tried to have it with Sheena two episodes
38:28
ago when he's wanted to say, I would have never done that to you,
38:30
Like if something terrible had happened to you, or if you tripped and
38:35
did something terrible on the world stage, I would not be out here on
38:37
podcasts calling you out for it and trying to interview all of these people so
38:42
I can make money off of your name. Like there's something to that that
38:46
I think is valid that we could talk about. But because Tom hasn't taken
38:52
organic, authentic responsibility for the shit that is and you can tell he doesn't
38:57
feel it internally. Oh, he doesn't feel sorry. Every single interview he
39:00
does, every podcast he's on, it's always I'm sorry, But he doesn't
39:05
actually take responsibility for anything that he's done. Because of that, we don't
39:09
want to hear about anything that anybody else did that may have hurt your feelings.
39:15
Yeah, because you aren't coming correct in this situation, right, And
39:19
I don't buy that you're working on yourself just because you stopped fucking drinking,
39:22
Like, Okay, congrats that you stop drinking. That's great, but that
39:25
doesn't mean that you're fucking healed and that you're this great person and you're humble.
39:30
Although he is taking Lisa vander Pump's advice during this trip, and he's
39:34
being very nice and cordial and saying, thank you guys for being nice to
39:37
me. And I set up a guided meditation for us all to do so
39:42
we can heal together. I'm like, oh, this is crazy. Yeah.
39:45
Yeah. And then even when he talks with James later, like he's
39:47
trying to be kind of nice, kind of low key whatever, because that's
39:52
what Lisa vanderpump told him to do. Be humble. That way you can
39:55
get on everybody's good side, right, But it's not some he truly feels
40:00
about himself or about the group. He's just trying to keep his job.
40:05
He's just trying to be able to be a part of the social circle,
40:07
which is the premise for this show, which is his job. Yes,
40:12
that's what he's doing, and you can see it, and James can see
40:15
it, and you could see James knowing it in the midst of that conversation.
40:19
Oh for sure. I love James Loki. I know you hate him,
40:22
I know you think he's a piece of shit, but I'm like,
40:24
I suspect him to be a domestic abuser, and that's just a no go
40:29
for me. There's not. I don't know if there's enough evidence. There's
40:32
just girls who have said so. But there's not even one man on this
40:37
cast that I like, there's not one man. No, Yeah, they're
40:40
all pretty terrible. They all are pretty terrible. And then while everybody's on
40:45
the patio talking about Graham Cracker changing his name to hippie. I don't care,
40:50
No nobody cares, boring, we get a scene with Arianna talking to
40:53
her interior designer or furniture person I don't know, at their house, Tom
40:58
and Ariana's house, and this is where she's talking about how you know,
41:01
Tom wants to buy her out of the house. She's warming up to the
41:05
idea, but only he only gets the walls. I want to be reimbursed
41:09
for literally all the furniture and everything that's in this house, because basically she
41:14
paid for everything. So she's like walking around talking bounders, chairs and the
41:17
couches and stuff, and I'm like, what do you mean reimbursed? Like
41:21
are you gonna let him keep it? And she just wants the money.
41:23
Probably I would just take all the fucking furniture, but I mean she might
41:27
move into an apartment. She might. That's to New York and she might
41:30
not be able to take the furniture. Maybe she doesn't want it because she
41:31
shared it with him. That's true. She should get the monetary value of
41:35
it depreciated for time and use. But like she should get some money for
41:37
that. Oh for sure. All of those chairs were super like name brand
41:44
and stuff, and I mean they look horribly uncomfortable and terrible, but that's
41:47
great. And then like the fucking artwork and the weird chandeliers that she has
41:52
that we're all designed that are super expensive. I'm like, yes, Queen,
41:57
get all of that money. I think that's great. I can pay
42:00
it all up. Yeah, I'm just all part of the negotiation once they
42:05
go to court and try to figure everything out. And that's what they're doing
42:07
right now. Yeah, which I'm excited to see how that goes. I'm
42:10
like, I wish we could have more of those conversations, like we were
42:14
just saying, like, let's get into the legal stuff, let's get into
42:16
the breakdown of the house. I don't care about talk. I think it's
42:20
the very beginning of that though, Like I don't think she might have been
42:22
consulting an attorney. I don't know if he is like, this is the
42:25
very beginning of these types of conversations and hopefully as we go on we'll be
42:30
able to hear some more. But like I'm not holding my breath. Yeah,
42:32
we'll see. And then we get back to Tahoe, and this is
42:36
where everybody starts getting like dressed to go to Lisa vander Pump's new restaurant that's
42:40
under construction called whoa, Oh my god, masculine and woodsy like tah Okay,
42:47
like okay, Lisa vander Pump. But it's like a total mess in
42:52
this new restaurant because there it's all under construction and there's like a wall up
42:55
for everybody to knock down honey with their weak ass swings. You want to
43:00
talk about cringe. I mean the whole thing was cringey. I mean it
43:05
was sad when Tom Schwartz hit the wall and said I don't want to be
43:07
single at forty. I know that's sad, but I mean, again,
43:12
you brought that shit on yourself. Yeah, but like when Tom sand of
43:15
all bitch this started hitting the wall and over calling out Scandaval and then calling
43:23
out La law and with a mustache, and I'm just like, oh my
43:28
God, this was his moment to perform. Yeah, and he couldn't really,
43:36
He's got those thin little tooth pick arms. You're skipping arm day and
43:42
like all days are being skipped. But like it was just so performative.
43:46
Yeah, And like, do you not have the function to see how it
43:51
is you appear to other people? No? Like, I feel like I
43:53
can do that. I can kind of tell if I'm talking too much,
43:57
or I can kind of tell, you know, if somebody wants me to
43:59
I can you can you get the dae? Yeah? I check. But
44:01
Tom does not have any sense whatsoever how this is coming across to other people.
44:07
They're literally laughing at it, I know, and I'm cringing watching it
44:09
through my fingers. On this episode, I'm like, dude, forty how
44:14
old is he? Forty forty one? Forty one? Loser, dude,
44:19
I can't like every time I see him, I'm like, I hate you
44:22
with your fucking nail polish, your fucking I like his nail polish. I
44:27
mean, I don't mind a metrosexual male. I like him. I like
44:30
him having his own sense of style. I don't necessarily like that. I
44:34
mean, I don't have a problem with any of that. I have a
44:36
problem with this bullshit. Yeah, calling out Lalla's name, I know,
44:39
calling out all of this shit. Arian. I don't remember everything he said.
44:44
I didn't write it down, but I was just like, oh god,
44:45
can I fast forward this? This is not hitting how you think is
44:49
hitting with the kids. I know it was uncomfortable, and everybody's calling it
44:52
out like ooh, I said that to him. I said that to him,
44:54
like, oh god, And this just proves, like, Tom,
44:58
you're not actually working on yourself for like actually taking any accountability because you're still
45:02
mad at everybody else for some fucking reason. You're still blaming. It's so
45:07
ridiculous. You're still deflecting, like he didn't even hit the hammer for what
45:10
he did. He knows, what about the things you caused, like Jesus
45:15
crackers. H. And then after that cringe fucking sledgehammer therapy session, everybody
45:22
goes to lunch with Lisa vander Pump and this is also kind of does she
45:27
have to be in scenes at all? I mean, right, like,
45:29
let's get the party started, kids, I'm like, oh my god,
45:31
no, not now, we can't party because you're here. Plus you're our
45:36
boss. A little bit you're the executive producer of the show, right,
45:38
you're I don't know, sixty something like beat it. I know Lisa,
45:43
and you know they're going to like a two pm dinner because she's old early
45:47
bird special. Yeah real. And this whole thing was just like awkward because
45:52
people are talking to Schwartz and they're like, yeah, it's sad that you
45:57
hit the sledgehammer for wanting to be not wanting to be single at forty?
46:00
What about your friends with benefits Joe right, Which I'm just like, he's
46:05
not fucking Joe. He's thinking about Sandival. Well, the rumor was that
46:08
he was with Joe or that's a beard, they were in a relationship,
46:14
but like he was very reticent to claim her because apparently she's kind of a
46:17
weirdo. I don't know, Like in that scene from last week when Joe
46:22
was there and Tom and Tom were trying to talk about stuff and Joe kept
46:25
trying to interject. Apparently Joe like talks a lot, oh and talks over
46:30
people and inserts herself into situations, and so they kept talking over her.
46:34
But yeah, I think she's a weirdo, and I think maybe Schwartz was
46:37
with her for a period of time, but now is just trying to get
46:38
rid of her. That's cringe. Yeah, he just keeps saying that the
46:42
table too. He's like, I'm single. I'm fine with it, you
46:44
guys, but you know he cries himself to sleep with his plants and to
46:47
succulents. Yeah, and then Lisa fucking vander Pump for some reason, says,
46:54
hey, let's everybody say one thing we love about Sandoval. James,
46:59
you start why, literally why, and nobody says anything, Like James doesn't
47:05
say anything. Nobody wants to say anything. I Meanwhile, Sandval's taking selfies
47:08
with me. I know, see if somebody likes me. I'm sitting here
47:12
with somebody. I have a friend in the cast. That was so ridiculous.
47:16
Why do you need why do you need to advocate for this guy so
47:21
much? I don't get it. Uh, because she feels bad for him
47:23
because he manipulated her and said that he wanted to unlive himself, and so
47:28
she's like worried about him and his mental health, even though he's taking selfies
47:31
with Brock and doesn't care. No, he doesn't. He literally is there
47:35
for the optics and for the show because he wants to get paid. Yeah,
47:37
that's it. That was ridiculous. And then after dinner, after the
47:40
early bird dinner, all the young kids are still wanted to go out drinks,
47:45
thirty five to forty year olds. Yeah, they all want to go
47:50
out for drinks afterwards, So they go do that, and then Sandoval asks
47:53
James to go and talk with him. Yet again, we have to have
47:58
another private conversation with him and James, And I mean this one was a
48:00
little bit better than the birthday party one because Sandoval wasn't as defensive, right,
48:07
and James kind of opens up about it, and he's like, dude,
48:08
you were like my big bro. I looked up to you, I
48:13
idolized you, I fucking love to you, and then you fucking betrayed me.
48:17
I'm just like, this is crange, you know. And I can
48:22
see why he feels betrayed because Tom Sandoval slept with his ex girlfriend, But
48:28
I mean, he wasn't actually with Raquel anymore, you know, he was
48:30
already moving on to Ali I think, right, I mean, but I
48:34
can still see like how that would hurt that your best friend, somebody you
48:37
think is your best friend, and your brother went on to sleep with your
48:39
ex like that's bad, like and it's something that would be so easy to
48:44
own for sure. It's not like what he did to Ariana, Like it's
48:46
to James, and James has been a piece of shit and he's moved on
48:50
from Kristen to somebody else, to somebody else to Lalla. They's cheated on
48:53
Raquel with Laala. So all you have to do is say, yeah,
48:57
that was really wrong. Yeah, you're my bro. I should not have
48:59
done that. Sorry, was overcome, Like it's super easy to own and
49:01
clear, but Tom just can't do it. He tries to do it in
49:06
this conversation. He does apologize and say I'm sorry, but he doesn't really
49:09
say what he's sorry for, right, He doesn't say what I've learned from
49:15
what I did, And he doesn't say, well, this is how I'm
49:16
gonna change my behavior, so I can promise you it never happens again.
49:20
Like, none of that kind of conversation happens. Just like, I'm sorry,
49:22
you know, and I really want to get back to being bros.
49:24
Yeah, like let's be broz again. Hopefully we can rekindle our bro ship.
49:29
Yeah, but I did like that. James also confronted him with the
49:32
whole affair, and he was like, you could have fucking broken up with
49:35
Arianna, like, yeah, things were so bad, yes, Like you
49:37
could have broken up with her and then gotten with Raquel, but you didn't.
49:40
And then Sandoval again is like, but it wasn't that easy, you
49:44
understand, thinking, oh the way she looked at me, oh the way
49:49
she talked to me. Man, it wasn't that easy. You don't get
49:52
it. So fucking stupid. I'm like, that is so dumb and such
49:55
an unmanly, like unmature, unmature, immature answer to say, like,
50:01
it is that easy. You could have just fucking told Arianna, look,
50:05
we're not having sex. You're kind of a bitch to me. I don't
50:07
want to be in this relationship with you. Let's break up amicably and then
50:12
try to untangle all of our finances and everything so that way I can go
50:15
fuck with cat all right, no matter what, that would have been the
50:17
best thing to do. But try to defend in this conversation with James why
50:22
you didn't do that, like, oh my god, please stop, just
50:23
shut your mouth. I know, and I can't believe, like in his
50:25
talking head, Sandoval's talking head he's like trying to throw Orianna under the bus.
50:30
And like we've talked about this before prior episodes, Like you said,
50:34
you've watched this whole series and you've seen how much of a bitch Ariana could
50:37
be to Sandval, and so like, yeah, maybe their relationship wasn't the
50:40
best, maybe he wasn't happy. Again, doesn't justify cheating on her with
50:45
her best friend. Walk away from the relationship. Be a big boy.
50:49
Yes, make a decision even though it hurts somebody and it hurts you,
50:52
just do it. I think he's got a cheating fetish, like if he
50:55
did this with Kristen and getting with Ariana, Like, I think he's got
50:59
to eat fetish, like he likes the thrill, because some people are like
51:01
that, they like the excitement and everything. But then get with somebody who's
51:07
kinky and then open your marriage or something or like a relationship, create a
51:10
relationship that can accommodate the things that you want to do. But can I
51:14
just qualify my comment about Ariana being a bitch? I mean, I think
51:16
I would be a bitch too if I was with Tom SAMs for really,
51:21
I mean, and the money that he's putting behind all of these fucking vanity
51:24
projects, these bands and these parties and these things that he's so extravagant like
51:30
and just who he thinks he is, Like he's a narcissist. Like I
51:32
can't imagine the emotional toil that would take on like a normal stable person to
51:38
have to cohabitate with somebody like that. Yeah. So yeah, every now
51:42
and again she's like, oh, Tom, shut up, because Tom,
51:45
you should shut up. Yeah, you know, I mean she should have
51:47
left the relationship. Obviously he should have as well. But like, I
51:51
just there's a reason Ariana was like that from time to time. Nobody knows
51:54
what happened behind closed doors, But like I get it is all I'm saying,
51:58
right, I just couldn't believe that. In this episode he still saying,
52:00
yeah, but everybody else treated me like crap. They need to acknowledge
52:05
how they treated me. Right, I'm like, oh my god, what
52:07
is wrong with you? You have to get to the place where you're okay
52:09
with nobody apologizing to you, even though they may or may not have done
52:13
something to harm you. Right, you have to get to the place where
52:15
you're you don't need that apology. You just want to hold yourself accountable to
52:21
make amends where they need to be made, and if they come back to
52:23
you some other time and say sorry, that's just gravy. That's just wonderful,
52:28
but you don't need it and you don't expect it. That's not how
52:30
apologies work, right. But you know he's doing guided meditation. Okay,
52:34
so he's really that helps you, So hope it helps you. God,
52:37
I can't wait to see that stupid guided meditation next episode. It's gonna be
52:42
so cringe. Is this how it ends with James and Thomas. That's the
52:45
last thing. Okay, Yeah, to preview for next week, which is
52:47
just a fight with Lalla because I think he starts coming for people for profiting
52:53
off of scandival. He's gonna start blaming some of these people and they're gonna
52:58
have a bad reaction to it, as one would expect. Yes, which
53:00
I'm kind of excited to see because I want some drama please, And there's
53:05
a lot of talkie talk yeah anything, I just believe. Yeah, let's
53:07
get to it, Bravo, let's get evolution. I can't believe that I
53:12
join this show, this series when everyone starts getting sober, I know,
53:17
starts getting like less shitty, right, Yeah, it would have been better
53:22
for you to pop on in earlier seasons, but I'm still holding out.
53:25
I still think it's gonna be I think it's gonna be good. I think
53:29
it will. I think we're gonna start seeing some interesting things, like again
53:30
Katie with the girlfriend who also likes Schwartz, so it's a love triangle,
53:36
like I definitely want to get to that, I know, and some of
53:38
the other things that happened with Tom and Arianna because we saw the preview where
53:43
she's shrieking about her children, Yeah, and he's like, what do you
53:45
mean children? Like, there's a lot. I hope that is still to
53:47
come. But I'm just wondering if Evolution is reading social media. Yeah,
53:52
is Evolution reading fucking reddit and the vander Pump Rules sub reddit because they're hating
53:59
the way that this season is going. Are they just four five episodes?
54:02
And yeah, they're hating it because it does feel very heavy handed, like
54:06
production is trying to make us forgive Tom Sandoval, and we just we're not
54:10
ready to, oh, especially if he's not going to demonstrate the behaviors that
54:15
we need to see in order to do it right. So like, change
54:17
it up while you still can. It's the beginning of the season. Get
54:20
your editors in and give us something more. Yeah, I was seeing some
54:22
shit on Reddit, like last week or something that they were saying that they
54:27
think that the show's being edited as we're watching it, like that some people
54:30
are noticing some of the I guess, like some of the times that the
54:32
episodes have been posted or whatever, and they're developing some conspiracy theories about the
54:37
narrative, like they had to change it last minute because Rachel decided not to
54:42
be on the show or something. But I'm like, if they are editing
54:45
the show while we're watching it, that's your next best edit it better.
54:50
Like the fucking redemption aren't make it better? Like what are we doing?
54:52
I don't get it. Well, hopefully it starts to make sense. I
54:55
mean, I'm still enjoying the show. Yeah, I enjoyed it as well.
54:59
Like I like the dynamics between the people. I think there's a lot
55:01
of Like I like all the gossip. I like how vapid all these people
55:06
are god so out of touch, so crazy living in southern California, just
55:09
injecting their lips and stuff ungrounded af except for Katie and Arianna. They're grounded.
55:15
They seem like real people who exist on our planet. First. Other
55:16
ones are just lost in the fucking Hollywood matrix. And it's great, which
55:22
is a shame because I liked Laala at first and now I'm just kind of
55:23
like, oh, you're saying that Sandoval's admirable for him being sober, Well
55:29
that's all she's got. But I mean I do like La La. I
55:31
mean I think she often is the voice of reason. But a broken clock
55:37
is right twice a day, So like, wow, I don't know.
55:38
We'll just see how things go. Yeah, we will definitely continue to watch.
55:43
Yeah, is there anything else you want to say about VPR before we
55:45
do? That's about it. Next week we're gonna start covering Seeking Sister Wise.
55:50
Oh my go what I'm excited about? They Yeah, And as a
55:52
reminder, normally we release our podcast at the beginning of the week on a
55:57
Monday for patrons Tuesday for everybody else, But because we're doing Seeking Sister Wives,
56:01
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56:14
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