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FT Breaking News: Yankees trade for Ryan McMahon, Mets acquire Gregory Soto, Mariners land Josh Naylor · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: It's that time of year. Yeah, you should be dancing, traps,
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Speaker 1: you should be dancing. And Cam Mayban is going to
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Speaker 1: join us soon. It's trade deadline season. We had one
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Speaker 1: yesterday that we're going to break down later in the show,
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Speaker 1: but you gotta love five minutes before showtime under the one.
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Speaker 1: So I'm very excited, as I can see you are too.
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Speaker 1: Over the next week, we're gonna be all over coverage
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Speaker 1: of trades as they happen. Breaking news will jump in
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Speaker 1: when we can, hopefully krats. Not all the work is
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Speaker 1: done Saturday night at two am, like we see in
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Speaker 1: the off season with half the signings.
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Speaker 2: No, that's not gonna happen. They listen like you. We
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Speaker 2: heard the whole report on O'Neil, O'Neal Cruz, like big
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Speaker 2: time prospects being asked. They're waiting till the last possible second.
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Speaker 2: So when we go mega on the trade deadline day,
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Speaker 2: then that's when it's all going to happen. They're setting
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Speaker 2: it up for us. The Mets pick up another Soto
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Speaker 2: and another one.
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Speaker 1: That's right, that's right, they have two Sodas. That's a
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Speaker 1: good call, all right, So let's charge. Let's get to
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Speaker 1: the breaking news here right off the jump.
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Speaker 2: Charge them out.
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Speaker 1: Two sodas are better than one. That is very true.
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Speaker 1: Gregory Soto, who used to be in the Division with
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Speaker 1: the Phillies, moved over to the Orioles last year. The
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Speaker 1: Orioles loved the Phillies relievers last year, if you remember,
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Speaker 1: they picked up Sodo and Sir Anthony do Mingez, and
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Speaker 1: now Soto is back in the National League East. The
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Speaker 1: Mets need bullpen help. They've got a left handed reliever
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Speaker 1: to add to the Brooks Raley mix. Raley, just recently
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Speaker 1: back for the Metropolitans, gives them too money. Left handed
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Speaker 1: arms helps them really against guys like Kyle Schwarber in
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Speaker 1: the Division too. Keep that in mind. You want to
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Speaker 1: have multiple options from the left side for high leverage games,
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Speaker 1: high leverage situations. Soto and Brooks Raley makes this much
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Speaker 1: more attractive for the Mets. And I feel like this
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Speaker 1: team in general is not getting enough attention and love
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Speaker 1: for how much damage they might do at the trade deadline.
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Speaker 1: Crats they think they can win a World Series this year.
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Speaker 1: They didn't spend seven to sixty five mili on Jan
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Speaker 1: Soto for nothing.
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Speaker 2: What do you think I mean, I think David Stearns
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Speaker 2: is cementing his legacy as a GM, but now he
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Speaker 2: has to cement it in New York. What he does
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Speaker 2: in Queens, I think is going to be completely different.
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Speaker 2: So I think this is just the tip of the
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Speaker 2: iceberg for a guy who needs, for a guy who
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Speaker 2: jumps the market getting a reliever that everybody we talk
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Speaker 2: about today, tomorrow, in the next five days is gonna
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Speaker 2: all be about, Oh, they need relief pitching and they
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Speaker 2: need a back. To me, I think they may go
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Speaker 2: back down to Baltimore and say, no one else is
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Speaker 2: gonna get really one of the best center fielders that's
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Speaker 2: available in Cedric Mullins. So you've already started that train
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Speaker 2: with the Orioles. So you've already had those communications direct
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Speaker 2: line down to Baltimore and see they might get that
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Speaker 2: center field or Cedric Mullins too.
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Speaker 1: We can talk about the return a little bit as well.
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Speaker 1: The Mets farm system is in much better shape than
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Speaker 1: it was several years ago. This team always spends a lot,
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Speaker 1: but the difference was they didn't have much going in
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Speaker 1: the farm. They do these days. You've seen some of
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Speaker 1: the young position players come up for them and be
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Speaker 1: helpful contributors. But from a pitching front, Kratz is where
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Speaker 1: this team has really changed. This team has changed from
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Speaker 1: the top with the MLB squad all the way down
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Speaker 1: to the minor league level. It has really made a
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Speaker 1: difference with the way that this team is pitching, developing pitching.
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Speaker 1: They've got the pitching machine, the pitching lab as many
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Speaker 1: call it, down in Florida where they train right and
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Speaker 1: you're seeing that now in the form of some of
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Speaker 1: these prospects returns. So when you look at these guys,
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Speaker 1: we're not going to act like we know much about them.
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Speaker 1: But right handed pitcher Cameron Foster and right handed pitcher
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Speaker 1: Wellington Arassina, who on many lists is a top twenty
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Speaker 1: Mets prospect both move for a guy in Soto who
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Speaker 1: I think. It's a good tweet here from Joel Sherman.
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Speaker 1: He said is is most likely to be a reliever
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Speaker 1: that hits one, walks to then strikes out three in
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Speaker 1: an inning, big velocity, hard to hit when he is locating.
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Speaker 2: Do you like Mountain You're saying, get your hard medicine,
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Speaker 2: Mountain Queens. So there's a I mean, it's nasty, it's
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Speaker 2: it's a funky arm angle. He's tall and he throws
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Speaker 2: a hundred, Like, this is the kind of guy that
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Speaker 2: you're like, man, if he could put it together, well,
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Speaker 2: he does put it together in spurts, So this will
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Speaker 2: be kind of you know, Carlos Mendoza will need to
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Speaker 2: really have his pulse on how he's throwing, and Bill
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Speaker 2: get him out of there when that's sinkers, when that
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Speaker 2: singer's going. It's just it's a middle, middle pitch that
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Speaker 2: guys are not able to square up. And to me,
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Speaker 2: I thought if the Orioles were going to do a
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Speaker 2: deal like this, or when the Ools were going to
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Speaker 2: do a deal like this, they would have gone after
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Speaker 2: some guys that were closer two big league ready, like
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Speaker 2: like a one for one kind of thing, like something
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Speaker 2: that would fill a hole for next year because people,
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Speaker 2: I mean, yes, the Orioles have been brutal, but they
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Speaker 2: want to win next year. If they don't want to win,
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Speaker 2: then somebody's gonna get gun or Henderson, which ain't happening.
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Speaker 2: But you go out there and you're like, hey, like
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Speaker 2: I thought it would be more of a baseball trade
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Speaker 2: when I was thinking of Orioles. It still could happen.
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Speaker 1: Well, the Oriols are gonna trade anybody that's in this
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Speaker 1: ruland they're gonna trade Sir Anthony Dimingez, They're gonna trade
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Speaker 1: zach Eflyn. They should trade Chicano. I know they're a
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Speaker 1: little bit worried about the relationship internationally with bringing in
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Speaker 1: a player who finally commits to the Orioles over many
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Speaker 1: other spots and then you deal them away. But it's
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Speaker 1: a one year contract, so I think they should deal
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Speaker 1: him away. Who else that you mentioned, Mullins, he should
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Speaker 1: get Delta away. So yeah, this is just the beginning
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Speaker 1: for the Orioles. Earn for sure, and his market's already
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Speaker 1: been set now with Josh Naylor getting to mid level
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Speaker 1: pitching prospects. We'll get to that later, but that's going
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Speaker 1: to be a somewhat similar return for a Hearn. A
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Speaker 1: Hern's a better bat, but ideally you're dhing him a bit.
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Speaker 1: He can do some first base. Maybe it's a fit
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Speaker 1: for a team like the Red Sox. I don't want
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Speaker 1: to get too deep into that right now. I want
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Speaker 1: to stay on task. But that is another guy that
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Speaker 1: will foreshore be moved for a couple B prospects.
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Speaker 2: Perhaps, Yeah, Bruers anyway. Can we can guess anywhere anybody,
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Speaker 2: but they have to me. I think the Orioles have
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Speaker 2: the most. We'll talk about the Diamondbacks a little later.
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Speaker 2: They have a lot. I think the Diamacks may have
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Speaker 2: a little bit higher quality too. To give out there.
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Speaker 1: Okay, and what are we thinking about the Mets. I
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Speaker 1: think they'll go get at least one more bullpen piece.
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Speaker 1: I don't think this is the last thing they'll do
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Speaker 1: just for the bullpen alone. They have prospect capital there
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Speaker 1: and win now mode Steve Cohen's fifth season owning the team,
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Speaker 1: he said, three to five year plan. I want one
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Speaker 1: of these titles.
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Speaker 2: What what'd you say the Mets have that's been working
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Speaker 2: really well? Pitching factory. I don't know that they'll go
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Speaker 2: get another guy. You have a closer. So if you're
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Speaker 2: going high end, I'd be surprised. I'd be surprised. If
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Speaker 2: they go high end, well, they get someone else maybe,
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Speaker 2: but to me, they do better. David Stearns has done
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Speaker 2: better working in the fringes famously. The Brewers have the
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Speaker 2: DFA bullpen that is life out every year. So to me,
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Speaker 2: I think they maybe a'll find value there and maybe
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Speaker 2: try to be able to find a bigger bet. Maybe
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Speaker 2: it'll pry a center field or away from somebody because
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Speaker 2: that's a big need. Also, don't forget third base is
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Speaker 2: a need to I get it, Vientos was a postseason hero,
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Speaker 2: but if you can upgrade there, that's huge, huge for
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Speaker 2: the Mets.
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Speaker 1: I think Sega's gonna have a nice rest of the
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Speaker 1: regular season into the playoffs as long as he stays
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Speaker 1: on the field. I really like Manaia. I like the staff.
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Speaker 1: The starting staff I think can start a playoff series
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Speaker 1: and thrive. For me, I am still going after a
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Speaker 1: high leverage, big, big bullpen arm and I would be
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Speaker 1: willing to give up a top level prospect to try
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Speaker 1: and get someone that's under control for multiple years, or
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Speaker 1: if they want to go more of the short term
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Speaker 1: route like Ryan Helsley. There are a lot of good
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Speaker 1: relievers that are out there Krafts that some will definitely
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Speaker 1: be dealt because they're free agents after this year, and
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Speaker 1: some will have to command something big, like a Jan Durant,
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Speaker 1: Griffin Jacks, Emmanuel class A. I don't think Kid Smith's
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Speaker 1: going to be moved, but I'm sure the Guardians will
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Speaker 1: have conversations about a guy like him as well. Right,
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Speaker 1: you've got that tier where it's multiple years of control
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Speaker 1: and it's guys that can close out a World Series
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Speaker 1: for you, or be an eighth inning guy to an
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Speaker 1: Edwin Diez in the ninth and then you've got more
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Speaker 1: of your rental type. Don't you think of Ryan Helsley
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Speaker 1: in the eighth inning would fit quite nicely for the Mets.
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Speaker 1: They've got their two shutdown left handed relievers. Now they've
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Speaker 1: got a couple other guys they like in the bullpen,
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Speaker 1: and then you pair someone like Hellsley with Edwin Diez.
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Speaker 1: Now we're talking, and that's a guy that is going
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Speaker 1: to be a free agent after this year. You don't
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Speaker 1: think they'll do something else like that or go for
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Speaker 1: a player like that. You could look at the Pirates
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Speaker 1: with Bednar and with Dennis Santana. I don't give a
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Speaker 1: crap what your prior role was. If you're joining the Mets,
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Speaker 1: you're going to be in the eighth inning. I know you.
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Speaker 1: Sometimes we debated this a lot. Every guy's different. There
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Speaker 1: might be a few of them that say, hey, I'm
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Speaker 1: nineth inning, and then the Mets are not the right
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Speaker 1: team for you, But I feel like most of them
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Speaker 1: understand the deal. Do you think Hellesley would have a
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Speaker 1: problem because he's about to hit free agency and he
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Speaker 1: still wants to be a closer the next couple months.
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Speaker 1: I don't think it makes a difference anymore in terms
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Speaker 1: of what you get paid. If he shuts down the
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Speaker 1: eighth and he's a g in the playoffs for the Mets,
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Speaker 1: he'll probably get more money.
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Speaker 2: No, but I don't think. I don't think the player
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Speaker 2: cares at all. That's not what I'm getting at. I
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Speaker 2: think the teams that are going to be bidding, the
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Speaker 2: teams that need a true closer, are gonna be the
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Speaker 2: ones at the front of bidding up for Ryan Helsley.
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Speaker 2: If the Mets call and they have a similar package
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Speaker 2: for the Cardinals, which the Mets Cardinals Nolan Ernado, maybe
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Speaker 2: he'll go to New York. Who knows they need a
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Speaker 2: third basement. Anyway, If that package is out there for Hellsley,
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Speaker 2: teams that need closers, like the Phillies need a closer,
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Speaker 2: the Cardinals can go to them and be like, all right,
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Speaker 2: well this is the package, Like we need a little
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Speaker 2: more from you. I think that's why I don't think
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Speaker 2: they would get a closer type because other teams will
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Speaker 2: bid that up. I don't think the Mets are going
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Speaker 2: to overbid for that type.
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Speaker 1: Of pitcher, Okay, but then my idea of someone like
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Speaker 1: Dennis Santana would really fit them all there right, really
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Speaker 1: sneaky good season, he's shut down some games. He can
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Speaker 1: easily slot in for your high leverage seventh d eighth
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Speaker 1: inning type, swing and miss. And the thing with the
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Speaker 1: bullpen is that you can try to build it as
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Speaker 1: best as possible in the offseason, but it's near impossible
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Speaker 1: because it's so volatile. The Doctors are a good example
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Speaker 1: of that. They spent a lot of money on their bullpen,
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Speaker 1: and some of the guys were looking at and going,
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Speaker 1: how is no one going after this player? Tanner Scott
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Speaker 1: was different. He cost a ton of money now he's heard.
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Speaker 1: Kirby Yates was more of the example where we're like,
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Speaker 1: how is no one going after him? I think some
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Speaker 1: gms like to work on their bullpen at the trade deadline.
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Speaker 1: That's the one spot I feel like they I don't
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Speaker 1: want to say leave open, but understand that they might
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Speaker 1: move prospects for because you want to catch the right
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Speaker 1: arm at the right time.
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Speaker 2: Do you agree, yeah, healthy, I mean you start locking in,
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Speaker 2: you start locking in a Tanner Scott for a long time,
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Speaker 2: and you're like, you know you even if even like
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Speaker 2: a Kirby Yates. Now you get like some type of
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Speaker 2: injury early in the season. You can see teams can
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Speaker 2: see where guys are at their usage by the trade deadline,
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Speaker 2: and you really it's the true rental. As much as
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Speaker 2: relievers don't want to hear this, they are true rentals,
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Speaker 2: and they're paid like rentals, and they're run, they're driven
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Speaker 2: like a rental. Like that's the biggest thing. And so teams,
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Speaker 2: I think you're right. I think you're you're hit it
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Speaker 2: right on the head that they're finding that value at
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Speaker 2: the trade deadline and not necessarily in the offseason, which
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Speaker 2: I don't agree, but that's that's the route they're going.
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Speaker 1: So in summary, Ool's just getting going with their sale
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Speaker 1: of guys that are going to be free agents after
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Speaker 1: this year or maybe after next year, right selling away
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Speaker 1: short term pieces. And for the Mets, this was a
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Speaker 1: very primary need. They wanted to have two shutdown lefties
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Speaker 1: in their bullpen. Now they've accomplished that check and they
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Speaker 1: can work on other things for the next week. FT
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Speaker 1: breaking news. Ryan McMahon is a New York Yankee. His
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Speaker 1: days of suffering in Colorado are over. He goes from
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Speaker 1: one of the worst teams of all time to a
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Speaker 1: Yankees team that can desperately use filling a hole at
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Speaker 1: third base and improving their defense. Kratz, this is one
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Speaker 1: of the elite defenders in our sport at third base
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Speaker 1: for several seasons. Now. Yankee swing back two prospects to
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Speaker 1: pitching prospects, which we'll get into coming up in a moment.
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Speaker 1: Griffin Herring and Josh Gross one of them in the
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Speaker 1: top ten range on most publications, top twenty for the others.
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Speaker 1: And then you can see Mark Finestan here pointing out
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Speaker 1: that Ryan McMahon has been much better at the plate
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Speaker 1: over the last six weeks. Really, if you break down
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Speaker 1: his season, he was atrocious in April and March obviously
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Speaker 1: when the season started, and since then he's been pretty
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Speaker 1: solid at the dish. He's got big home road splits,
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Speaker 1: but it's not like we haven't seen players go from
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Speaker 1: Colorado and then thrive elsewhere. Keep it in mind, told
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Speaker 1: that Denver takes on your body and the lack of
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Speaker 1: information that the Colorado Rockies organization provides because their front
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Speaker 1: office and their prep staff is like ten percent of
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Speaker 1: what some of the other teams have to offer. He's
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Speaker 1: going to get to Yankee Stadium and be like, is
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Speaker 1: this Willie Wanker's chocolate factory? Because I was just eaten,
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Speaker 1: you know, skittles off the pavement before. This is freaking crazy.
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Speaker 1: So what do you think about this movie? Do you
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Speaker 1: think this is going to help the Yankees a lot?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, especially since they only gave up two Pithers whatever
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Speaker 2: Pithers are that was what the tweet said, not pitchers.
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Speaker 2: But but yes, it's gonna help them a ton. It
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Speaker 2: adds these defense and you say, okay, well you just
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Speaker 2: picked up a guy who's struggling at thirty, you know,
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Speaker 2: at the plate. This will improve their defense, which is huge,
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Speaker 2: which has been the talk of the Yankees' last postseason
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Speaker 2: to now. They had four airs in one game. He's
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Speaker 2: not gonna be able to clean up all the defense,
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Speaker 2: but it plugs a big spot that they needed. And
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Speaker 2: to me, the value and the things he's going to
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Speaker 2: learn with the Yankees, if he's open to learning, it
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Speaker 2: will be a very significant jump in his offense because
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Speaker 2: the lack of knowledge, the lack of information that they
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Speaker 2: are given in Colorado. Look at dj L Mayhew, good player. Absolutely.
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Speaker 2: Djail Mayhew's words exactly were, we didn't even have any
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Speaker 2: of this stuff. We didn't even have Like I was
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Speaker 2: expecting him to say, ah, we had half whatever. They
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Speaker 2: were so far beyond or behind the times and to
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Speaker 2: be able to get that information to you as a hitter.
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Speaker 2: Oh and also, he's not gonna be one of two
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Speaker 2: guys in the lineup. The Yankees offense is still good.
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Speaker 2: I get it, they're sputtering a little bit, but the
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Speaker 2: Yankees offense is still good. Ryan McMahon, all of a sudden,
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Speaker 2: is not the guy that you're thinking about. Okay, how
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Speaker 2: do we get this guy out? No, it's Judge, it's
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Speaker 2: g Jazz has been swinging the bat well. Paul Goldschmid's
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Speaker 2: been swinging the bat well. Now, all of a sudden,
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Speaker 2: you add in rhyming Man. Every time you add in
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Speaker 2: a hitter that's struggling and he's been better recently to
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Speaker 2: a good lineup. Now that good lineup or that struggling
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Speaker 2: hitter just automatically gets better. So to me, you have
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Speaker 2: the defense that's solidified. Now you're adding to the offense.
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Speaker 2: Because they weren't getting much offensive production from third base.
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Speaker 1: The Yankees clearly thought either they didn't have the prospect
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Speaker 1: juice with their offer for Gino Suarez, if they even
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Speaker 1: made one, or maybe they just liked Ryan McMahon better
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Speaker 1: for the team control. He is definitely a better defender
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Speaker 1: than Geno Suarez. Gino has got him beat by far
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Speaker 1: in the bat department. Nobody is disputing that. But Jim Bowden,
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Speaker 1: our resident GM, was on the money on this one. Kratz.
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Speaker 1: He was shooting down thoughts about Gino Suarez landing with
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Speaker 1: the Yankees based on his conversations, which probably came from
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Speaker 1: one of the top people in command with the Yanks.
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Speaker 1: It could have even come from Brian Cashman, if I
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Speaker 1: had to guess. JB was on this show the last
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Speaker 1: couple weeks being like, they don't love Geno's d they
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Speaker 1: are thinking about some other guys, and they were thinking
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Speaker 1: about McMahon. They had been trying to pry him. I
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Speaker 1: think for the last couple of years the Rockies should
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Speaker 1: have traded McMahon last year as one of his better
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Speaker 1: offensive seasons. But the Rockies are going to Rocky and
16:52
Speaker 1: they run like a mom and pop organization. They were like,
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Speaker 1: we like him, we like his family, we want to
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Speaker 1: hang out with him more. That's swell. So they waited
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Speaker 1: an extra here. They could have gotten more last year.
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Speaker 1: But let's not worry about the Rocks right now. They're
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Speaker 1: a billion years away from contending. For the Yankees, this
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Speaker 1: is four and a half million dollars left this season.
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Speaker 1: He's under contract the next couple of years for sixteen
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Speaker 1: million dollars. Nothing for their books. They get the control,
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Speaker 1: but they essentially picked someone up that's gonna cost them
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Speaker 1: some money to solidify a position that's been in albatross.
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Speaker 1: They should have done this. In terms of addressing the
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Speaker 1: position last offseason, we were like, are they gonna work
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Speaker 1: on third base? Are they gonna rely on DJ coming back?
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Speaker 1: You disagree? What was the plan for third base heading
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Speaker 1: into the season for the Yanks because at this point
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Speaker 1: the last couple months, they're mixing and matching, especially when
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Speaker 1: Jazz moved back over to second. Jazz should always be
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Speaker 1: at second, not third. Third was a stop gap. It's like,
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Speaker 1: if you want him for a game or two, that's fine,
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Speaker 1: but I felt like it was a true band aid
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Speaker 1: opportunity from a team that shouldn't be doing that. And
17:54
Speaker 1: then it became a perfect storm when Anthony Volpi went
17:57
Speaker 1: through his mess of a defensive struggle, which really has
18:00
Speaker 1: been going on the entire season. He is rushing throws,
18:03
Speaker 1: he's playing way too fast, and the other day in
18:06
Speaker 1: the Toronto series he goes on one knee to field
18:08
Speaker 1: a ground ball. Like it, it seems like there's some
18:11
Speaker 1: confidence lost. There's people trying to now start in a
18:14
Speaker 1: shout out. He might need a quick reset down in
18:16
Speaker 1: the minor leagues, whatever you think and whatever the plan is,
18:18
Speaker 1: because they don't really have a backup plan for Volpiyet
18:21
Speaker 1: short right now. They needed to get more firmness on
18:24
Speaker 1: the left side of their infield, more consistency because it
18:28
Speaker 1: had been messy.
18:30
Speaker 2: I think there's a school of thought too, if your
18:34
Speaker 2: shortstop doesn't have to cover all of the left side,
18:36
Speaker 2: and it's not saying he's Kelly Leak over there running
18:39
Speaker 2: and you know, jumping to field balls to the third baseman,
18:43
Speaker 2: maybe they can shift him into a better position. Maybe
18:45
Speaker 2: they can put him in better spots where they don't
18:48
Speaker 2: feel like they have to cover the lack of range
18:50
Speaker 2: for the third basement that they had before. But this
18:53
Speaker 2: isn't about Volpi. This is about the upgrade that they
18:56
Speaker 2: had a third base and why they didn't why they
19:00
Speaker 2: didn't basically take care of this in the offseason. I
19:04
Speaker 2: would agree with the way that Brian Cashman and the
19:07
Speaker 2: Yankees took care of this. Look, you don't one hundred
19:10
Speaker 2: percent know that Jazz isn't going to be good at
19:12
Speaker 2: third is are you hoping? Absolutely? You're hoping you also
19:17
Speaker 2: have some cash in DJ the Mayhew. To me, if
19:20
Speaker 2: DJ the Mayhew come's back, then we're only talking to
19:22
Speaker 2: the beginning of the season, and regain some of the
19:26
Speaker 2: form as a two to eighty hitter, he can cover
19:29
Speaker 2: second base admirably. Now, all of a sudden, you have
19:33
Speaker 2: a lineup that's going to take care of some of
19:36
Speaker 2: the deficiencies and you don't have to spend extra money.
19:39
Speaker 2: You don't want to just dump DJ the Mayhew right
19:41
Speaker 2: at the beginning of season. Are we talking about things
19:43
Speaker 2: that inevitably happened? Yes, But beginning of season I did
19:48
Speaker 2: like the route that they were going because they had
19:51
Speaker 2: the personnel in place. It didn't work out. You don't
19:55
Speaker 2: always make all the right choices.
19:57
Speaker 1: Do you think they should have gone after Genosparez and
20:00
Speaker 1: said screw it, let's get a rental because he's a
20:02
Speaker 1: better bat. No, you think this was the guy that's.
20:05
Speaker 2: Like putting a band aid on a leaking damn. Like, yes,
20:10
Speaker 2: two months, maybe three months? Bang, Like, hey, he's putting this.
20:14
Speaker 2: He putting us together for the postseason. This is nothing
20:17
Speaker 2: against Ginus s Warrez. I like for the Yankees, this
20:21
Speaker 2: move much better because of where Ryan McMahon is defensively,
20:25
Speaker 2: and yes, Yankee fans, he will make an error when
20:28
Speaker 2: he plays for the Yankees. Sorry, that is just what's
20:31
Speaker 2: gonna happen. But he can hit. He will hit. You
20:37
Speaker 2: watch this guy in BP, You watch this guy in games. Honestly,
20:40
Speaker 2: when he first came up in twenty eighteen, when we
20:43
Speaker 2: played in the playoffs, I was more afraid of his
20:46
Speaker 2: bat and he was kind of a sporadic player at
20:48
Speaker 2: that point than even Charlie Blackman, even Nolan Ernado, because
20:54
Speaker 2: we had ability to pitch to those guys based on
20:57
Speaker 2: how our bullpen and our rotation was built. Ryan McMahon
21:03
Speaker 2: scared me more because of his ability to cover a
21:06
Speaker 2: lot of pitches down in the zone.
21:09
Speaker 1: What do you think of the short porch for Ryan McMahon,
21:12
Speaker 1: like it has been so helpful for Cody Buinger and Jasshchism. No,
21:16
Speaker 1: nothing there.
21:17
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, this dude can hit the ball out
21:19
Speaker 2: of Yellowstone. You start look at you look at some
21:21
Speaker 2: of his peripherals. How hard he hits the ball, How
21:24
Speaker 2: hard he can hit the ball. It is. It's elite,
21:28
Speaker 2: and he's not like an imposing figure. He's tall, long,
21:32
Speaker 2: lean type of hitter. And I hate when guys say, ah,
21:37
Speaker 2: this is super helping, this is super helping left handed hitters.
21:42
Speaker 2: He's not that kind of guy. To me. If you
21:44
Speaker 2: get a right handed hitter that can hit the ball
21:47
Speaker 2: to the opposite field, that's who it really helps. Cody
21:50
Speaker 2: Bellinger's top spin line drives to right field are not
21:54
Speaker 2: his best swings. That's yes, it's going out of the
21:58
Speaker 2: ballpark sometimes, But I don't see it helping lefties as
22:01
Speaker 2: much as everybody says, because in overall, like the full
22:07
Speaker 2: scope of your season, if you're looking to get cheap
22:10
Speaker 2: home runs to right as a left handed hitter, your
22:12
Speaker 2: batting average and every all your production is gonna go
22:16
Speaker 2: you still got to hit dingers. It's just like it's
22:19
Speaker 2: just like a lefty taking taking the monster in Boston,
22:22
Speaker 2: taking advantage of that. You're taking good swings that put
22:26
Speaker 2: the ball off the wall that could be caught at
22:28
Speaker 2: the wall and at other places. To me, it's not
22:32
Speaker 2: that big of an advantage for lefties. And McMahon will
22:35
Speaker 2: hit the ball, I mean, get ready bleacher creatures, because
22:38
Speaker 2: that's that's his territory.
22:40
Speaker 1: Okay, so Kratz really likes this deal for the Yanks.
22:43
Speaker 1: What's next? I think starting pitching, maybe one guy, and
22:48
Speaker 1: then relief pitching for sure for this team. But in
22:51
Speaker 1: my mind, some of the gms, the veteran ones are
22:55
Speaker 1: getting some of their very specific needs. There must haves
22:59
Speaker 1: done so that they can work on the icing on
23:04
Speaker 1: the cake for lack of a better term, right yet,
23:07
Speaker 1: David Stern saying, Hey, I absolutely need another left handed reliever.
23:11
Speaker 1: Boom checklist done. Now I can work on gravy another reliever.
23:15
Speaker 1: Yankees going, there's no doubt we're getting a third basement
23:17
Speaker 1: cool got the one we were looking for. Now we
23:20
Speaker 1: can work on helping us in the pitching category. Am
23:23
Speaker 1: I missing anything? Do they need to do anything? Else
23:25
Speaker 1: position player wise, or do you feel like they're set there.
23:29
Speaker 2: I feel like they're set there. People are gonna say, well,
23:31
Speaker 2: the helly are there? They're struggling, they strike out too much,
23:35
Speaker 2: their team, their team identification, the way that they look
23:40
Speaker 2: at themselves as a hitter. I think it's set. I
23:43
Speaker 2: don't know that they need. The only position player change
23:47
Speaker 2: is if they can land some type of monster for
23:50
Speaker 2: a Jason Domingez, for a Trent Grisham who doesn't need
23:53
Speaker 2: gold glove outfielder that can fill in has had a
23:57
Speaker 2: admirable year, he's done well. It's kind of fall off
24:00
Speaker 2: for Trent Grisham. Recently, Jason Dimingez is still trying to
24:04
Speaker 2: feel his way into the big leagues. I'm not saying
24:06
Speaker 2: it's gonna happen. I'm saying, if you're the Yankees and
24:09
Speaker 2: you have a chance to get a picture of, you know,
24:14
Speaker 2: a Mitch Keller type of starter that's controlled, clearly the
24:18
Speaker 2: Yankees want that control. They went and got McMahon. Do
24:21
Speaker 2: they go and get him? Do they? And the reason
24:24
Speaker 2: I said Mitch Keller is because the Yankees look at
24:27
Speaker 2: other organizations that maybe don't get the most out of
24:30
Speaker 2: their pitchers and they take that value and they say
24:33
Speaker 2: we're gonna unlock this, We're gonna use that. Could they
24:37
Speaker 2: get a Ryan Helsley? Honestly thought the Yankees could have
24:40
Speaker 2: been a Nolan Aernada Ryan Helsley type of location. Also
24:44
Speaker 2: obviously Nolan Ernada's out, but I loved his defense at third.
24:48
Speaker 2: For this team, they don't, I mean nobody, nobody cares
24:52
Speaker 2: if you're if you're closing in the postseason, or if
24:55
Speaker 2: you're throwing the seventh or eighth inning in the postseason.
24:58
Speaker 2: And I think that is where this team, if there's
25:00
Speaker 2: an opportunity, can push to that upper echelon and take
25:05
Speaker 2: away that closer, that eighth inning guy from different teams,
25:09
Speaker 2: maybe even a Bednar to come in. I see a
25:13
Speaker 2: Dennis Santana being in that realm too, just to add
25:17
Speaker 2: more depth to that bullpen quality depth too.
25:21
Speaker 1: Last piece of the puzzle here. We're not gonna spend
25:23
Speaker 1: a lot of time on the Rockies. Like I mentioned,
25:24
Speaker 1: they should have traded mc bann last year. This was
25:27
Speaker 1: an obvious dude to move. It's a seller's market right now.
25:31
Speaker 1: The return is to pitching prospects for the Rockies. We
25:35
Speaker 1: will be all over prospect returns. Yeah, and money dump
25:38
Speaker 1: of course for Colorado. Yes, good, good call, Kratz, But
25:42
Speaker 1: this team's gonna probably trade away another reliever or too.
25:45
Speaker 1: They don't have a ton of other assets to sell.
25:47
Speaker 1: This was the big one for them, and you got
25:50
Speaker 1: to get these right. I mean, of the two that
25:52
Speaker 1: they're bringing in here. You hope, if you're a Rockies fan,
25:56
Speaker 1: that one of these guys turns into something special for you.
25:58
Speaker 1: Griffin Herring perhaps turns into something special for the Rockies,
26:02
Speaker 1: but it's a bigger problem. They need to reshape the organization.
26:06
Speaker 1: They're probably going to go outside the org to try
26:08
Speaker 1: and find some front office help coming up in the
26:10
Speaker 1: off season. But this was a big move because they
26:13
Speaker 1: don't have many short many assets like this. It's not
26:15
Speaker 1: even a short term mast because he's got multiple years
26:17
Speaker 1: of control. But hopefully they did their homework and did
26:20
Speaker 1: things right. We did bring up yesterday how sometimes the
26:23
Speaker 1: Yankees over pumped their prospects and it turns into nice
26:25
Speaker 1: returns from them. I get Brian Cashman a ton of credit.
26:28
Speaker 1: He's done this for a long time now. If you
26:29
Speaker 1: look at many of the Yankees traits over the past
26:31
Speaker 1: five to seven years. Sometimes the players they bring in
26:34
Speaker 1: don't work out, but almost every time whoever they trade away,
26:38
Speaker 1: especially when it's a pitcher, doesn't do much dope. I
26:42
Speaker 1: give the Yankes credit for.
26:43
Speaker 2: That, Yeah, no doubt. But now now we're in the
26:47
Speaker 2: realm of everybody has kind of the same analytics, the
26:51
Speaker 2: same like they're they're breaking down the stats. Oh wait,
26:55
Speaker 2: didn't I start that by saying the Rockies don't have that?
26:58
Speaker 2: So I'm a little fearful for the rock I'm a
27:00
Speaker 2: little feel fearful for the Rockies fandom that these two
27:05
Speaker 2: guys you don't know if they're gonna work out, You
27:08
Speaker 2: don't know exactly what you're gonna get from them. But
27:11
Speaker 2: my thing is I hope for Rockies fans that they
27:15
Speaker 2: can say, these are the type of pitchers we want
27:18
Speaker 2: to go after. We're gonna put this, We're gonna put
27:21
Speaker 2: these guardrails up, and if these guys can check all
27:24
Speaker 2: these boxes, that's what we're gonna go after. Because if
27:27
Speaker 2: you go and get which the Yankees do, the Yankees
27:30
Speaker 2: produce guys with spin rate top of the zone and
27:33
Speaker 2: breaking balls down the middle with more depth, whether it's
27:36
Speaker 2: a slider that gyro slider that goes down. Their pitching
27:40
Speaker 2: lab wants you to do those things right here. Well,
27:43
Speaker 2: what happens in Colorado. The ball doesn't have as much
27:48
Speaker 2: life it has like it's like one point seven inches
27:53
Speaker 2: less of horizontal break than the next closest ballpark. So
27:58
Speaker 2: as a Rockies fan, you need to make or hope
28:01
Speaker 2: that your team is saying this is a type of
28:03
Speaker 2: picture we're getting. We're gonna get all this type of picture,
28:06
Speaker 2: and this is how we're gonna be able to pitch
28:08
Speaker 2: and not just say like the Rockies have been saying, well,
28:11
Speaker 2: we'll take that picture of that picture, this picture, this picture,
28:14
Speaker 2: and hopefully one of these six pitchers will work out
28:17
Speaker 2: and they're all really good guys. Oh they didn't work out,
28:20
Speaker 2: It's okay, thanks for coming to the stadium.
28:23
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then you got to relook at your system.
28:25
Speaker 1: You got to look at what you're doing as an
28:27
Speaker 1: organization and why you're so far behind, and invest a
28:30
Speaker 1: little bit in that. You're saving a lot of money
28:31
Speaker 1: on Royan McMahon. Now hire some more people to help
28:34
Speaker 1: with development. I mean, why is every player leaving Colorado
28:37
Speaker 1: being like and now I'm in the twenty first Century,
28:40
Speaker 1: so we can spend all day on that. We've done
28:41
Speaker 1: a lot on that. There's a good video of us
28:43
Speaker 1: talking to Dan O'Dowd maybe two three weeks ago about
28:47
Speaker 1: this topic. Ft and the Ft Network is all over
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28:53
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28:55
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29:10
Speaker 1: cam Maven with Derrik Kraftz. I'm Scott Braun. It's foul
29:13
Speaker 1: Territory covering Josh Naylor to the Seattle Mariners. They need
29:17
Speaker 1: corner infield help and look at them. Go here Cam
29:20
Speaker 1: you first, what did you think of this one that
29:22
Speaker 1: broke last night?
29:24
Speaker 3: Well, first off, guys, I do not control the Wi fi.
29:27
Speaker 3: You know, it's getting close towards the end.
29:28
Speaker 2: Of the month.
29:29
Speaker 3: End of the month, you know the phone starts acting
29:31
Speaker 3: up because they want to remind you make sure you
29:33
Speaker 3: pay that on the first So I just want to
29:36
Speaker 3: say that. But as far as the ams go, you know,
29:39
Speaker 3: I thought this was a great move for the Ams.
29:41
Speaker 3: I think, you know, when you talk about the Ams
29:42
Speaker 3: and pitching, they have a plethora of that, and they
29:45
Speaker 3: just reloaded in this year's draft, and they.
29:47
Speaker 2: Do a great job of developing their arms.
29:49
Speaker 3: So when you look at these two prospects they sent
29:52
Speaker 3: both in their top twenty and Garcia, listen, he is
29:55
Speaker 3: a punch out machine. I think this guy's very close
29:57
Speaker 3: to being in the big leagues already. I think the
29:59
Speaker 3: other young man is in a ball but again a
30:02
Speaker 3: top prospect, and then uh, you know, and then the
30:05
Speaker 3: Diamondbacks unload Naylor before possibly a handy happens, if something
30:09
Speaker 3: happens and they can unload him. So I think this
30:10
Speaker 3: is a great deal. I believe in Kevin Seisser and
30:14
Speaker 3: and what he can do. Hopefully that is that piece.
30:17
Speaker 3: I know they wanted you Heneyo Soris, but I think
30:19
Speaker 3: the price was too high, and I like this move
30:22
Speaker 3: for both teams.
30:23
Speaker 2: And then the other side too.
30:24
Speaker 3: The Diamondbacks believe they have Dan Jordan Lawler ready, so
30:28
Speaker 3: I don't know if that, you know, somehow they move
30:30
Speaker 3: you Heney over the first right now bring them up.
30:33
Speaker 3: We'll see what happens.
30:34
Speaker 2: But I like this trade for both teams. Jeez, cam
30:37
Speaker 2: do will be putting that hammy all over Josh.
30:41
Speaker 4: Got to Seattle, you know how crafty and trying to
30:51
Speaker 4: put that hammy all over Josh.
30:52
Speaker 2: We just got there in his m's uniform. I like this.
30:55
Speaker 2: I like this pick up. I honestly felt feel like
30:58
Speaker 2: Ryan O'Hearn sitting there going who okay, good, I'm not
31:02
Speaker 2: going to Seattle because there is some some you need
31:06
Speaker 2: to have that plate discipline locked in because there's gonna
31:10
Speaker 2: be days where the ball just is not going. It's
31:12
Speaker 2: just not coming out of the bat, it's not coming
31:15
Speaker 2: out of the batter's box. You need to make sure
31:18
Speaker 2: you have your plate discipline, which Josh Naller either worked
31:21
Speaker 2: on this year or he has made a specific, concerted
31:26
Speaker 2: effort to improve. I think it's a great pickup for him,
31:30
Speaker 2: and I don't think the Mariners need to be done.
31:32
Speaker 2: And I love that they've actually done something because we
31:35
Speaker 2: tied so many first basemen to the Mariners in the
31:38
Speaker 2: offseason and they finally got one.
31:41
Speaker 3: And let me add this to and I think at
31:44
Speaker 3: the end of the day, this is a great trade.
31:45
Speaker 3: And I think crass Sills agreed. Randyo Or Rose Arena
31:48
Speaker 3: has been out his mind this season. Cal Rowley could
31:51
Speaker 3: be the MVP at the end of the day. This
31:53
Speaker 3: is a great piece. He adds some fire. He had
31:55
Speaker 3: some fuel. But the third the when they said the
31:59
Speaker 3: strangest thirs, it's Jlio Rodriguez. He has to start to
32:02
Speaker 3: play like a superstar. He brings the energy, he brings
32:05
Speaker 3: a smile, but his play hasn't metched that charismatic energy
32:08
Speaker 3: that he brings. He has to play like a superstar.
32:11
Speaker 3: When you add Josh Naylor and Jerry Depolo goes and
32:13
Speaker 3: makes this hype move, your superstar has to play just
32:16
Speaker 3: like that a superstar.
32:18
Speaker 1: Do you think the Mariners could be real players for
32:21
Speaker 1: Gino Suarez to bring him back to Seattle, which, in
32:24
Speaker 1: my opinion, would kind of be his nightmare. Remember he's
32:26
Speaker 1: been talking like, oh, the Yankees would be cool, the
32:29
Speaker 1: Reds would be awesome for a reunion. I haven't heard
32:31
Speaker 1: him on the record talk about Seattle. It has nothing
32:33
Speaker 1: to do with the Org. That park's kind of a
32:35
Speaker 1: nightmare for Nailor. He's a contact guy. It might take
32:38
Speaker 1: a little bit of his pop away, but he also
32:41
Speaker 1: shed the qualifying offer. He's gonna be pretty happy with
32:44
Speaker 1: being twenty eight years old, hitting free agency for Gino Suarez,
32:47
Speaker 1: hitting free agency, going back to Seattle. And also, let's
32:52
Speaker 1: remember Seattle dealt him away and they were somewhat public
32:55
Speaker 1: about how they didn't want as much swing and miss
32:57
Speaker 1: in their lineup. They kind of took a shot directly
33:00
Speaker 1: at Gino. I don't know, I think someone else is
33:03
Speaker 1: going to bid higher for him, don't you.
33:06
Speaker 2: Yes, that's exactly where what I was gonna say, and
33:08
Speaker 2: that is that was ill advised taking a shot at
33:11
Speaker 2: Genosuarez because his strikeouts were not a product of Geno Suarez.
33:16
Speaker 2: It was a product of what was going on in Seattle.
33:20
Speaker 2: Could he improve if he goes there with Kevin sitz Er. Look,
33:23
Speaker 2: it's two months. Kevin sites are sitting there going, hey,
33:26
Speaker 2: go do what you do. And to me, I don't think.
33:30
Speaker 2: I don't think they're in that realm. I don't think
33:32
Speaker 2: they're even going to be close to Henosuarez because I
33:37
Speaker 2: just think other teams need him, have a fit and
33:42
Speaker 2: will pay extra. Jerry Depoto loves to trade, He loves
33:46
Speaker 2: to make moves, finagle things, but he's got one of
33:51
Speaker 2: his hands tied behind his back from ownership, and it
33:53
Speaker 2: might not be a money thing with Gino, but it
33:56
Speaker 2: ends up being a money thing because of all the
33:58
Speaker 2: prospects that need to be I just don't see the
34:01
Speaker 2: Mariners doing it.
34:02
Speaker 1: No, it is a money thing too. Gina costs five
34:04
Speaker 1: million dollars the rest of the year. That's real money.
34:07
Speaker 2: It's it's not that it's not that much money. It's
34:10
Speaker 2: not that much money for the Mariners.
34:13
Speaker 1: No, not, I disagree on this one. It's it's not
34:17
Speaker 1: that much money. It shouldn't be for the Mariners, but
34:20
Speaker 1: it is because ownership is super cheap. Anyone in Seattle
34:23
Speaker 1: knows that they saved up for years and then they
34:26
Speaker 1: let them down with the budget the last few years.
34:28
Speaker 1: I don't want to play the whole ownership cheap game,
34:30
Speaker 1: but it is true. I don't know what Nailor is
34:32
Speaker 1: getting for the rest of this year, but it's at
34:34
Speaker 1: least a few million bucks, right Kratz based on his ARM.
34:36
Speaker 2: Number, Yeah, I think he got ten or eleven in ARM.
34:40
Speaker 2: I had to look at it, right, so.
34:42
Speaker 1: Probably a few mill left. Then you add Gino. Now
34:44
Speaker 1: you're looking at going to your owner and saying I
34:46
Speaker 1: need eight for the last couple months of the season
34:49
Speaker 1: and their owner is cheap. I'm just saying I would
34:52
Speaker 1: not be surprised if he got turned down on that.
34:55
Speaker 1: I mean, Seattle in the past sometimes has had to
34:57
Speaker 1: ask teams to give them some money back on trades,
35:01
Speaker 1: even though it wasn't that type of player, you know
35:03
Speaker 1: what I mean, where it's like that awkward phone call
35:05
Speaker 1: and you're like, can you eat a little? My owners
35:07
Speaker 1: make me do it. I'll give you a better prospect
35:09
Speaker 1: than the teams are.
35:09
Speaker 2: Like what I hear you to me? To me, the
35:14
Speaker 2: only way Gino's money comes into play is when you
35:16
Speaker 2: start talking about the teams over the luxury tax threshold
35:20
Speaker 2: that are going to pay five million for Gino. We're
35:23
Speaker 2: at the one hundred and ten percent, so we're technically
35:26
Speaker 2: paying ten point one for Gina or eleven point one
35:32
Speaker 2: for Gino instead of instead of just the fives. To me,
35:36
Speaker 2: that's where that comes in. I think I think the
35:40
Speaker 2: Mariners will make another move, and I think it could
35:42
Speaker 2: be close to that amount of money. To me, I
35:45
Speaker 2: thought I read something that they were in the nine
35:48
Speaker 2: million dollar range where they could move and be able
35:52
Speaker 2: to have nine million dollars worth of movement at the
35:56
Speaker 2: trade deadline. So does that mean they need to trade somebody.
35:58
Speaker 2: I don't know who they would get rid of as
36:00
Speaker 2: far as for money, but I'm saying they're still under
36:02
Speaker 2: that and Gino would still be under it. Again, it's
36:05
Speaker 2: kind of like the closer thing we talked about. I
36:07
Speaker 2: just think other teams are going to put in a
36:10
Speaker 2: larger bid, whether it's prospects or whatever it is, to
36:14
Speaker 2: get Gino, and that's where they'll fall short.
36:17
Speaker 1: Okay, I think Willie Castro could be a name. I
36:19
Speaker 1: don't know if he's been linked there, but he could
36:21
Speaker 1: play a number of positions for the team. And yet,
36:24
Speaker 1: if Williamson does thrive for them the last couple months,
36:28
Speaker 1: Castro can fill in other spots. I see more of
36:30
Speaker 1: that type of move for this team. They love Twins
36:33
Speaker 1: players too, I mean, Polanco's been a guy that they love.
36:37
Speaker 1: And anyway, I think they did solve a big issue
36:39
Speaker 1: over at first base. You know, it was rowdy for
36:42
Speaker 1: a bid while he was hot, and Donovan Solano and
36:45
Speaker 1: Luke Rayley. This is a big upgrade. This is a
36:48
Speaker 1: one twenty three ops plus that's twenty three percent above
36:52
Speaker 1: league average. Like Kratz, mentioned the on base percentages fire
36:55
Speaker 1: this year. He smashes right handed pitching. I know it's
36:57
Speaker 1: going to be in Seattle, so things might tick down
36:59
Speaker 1: a little bit in the power department. But nice pick
37:02
Speaker 1: up here by the Seattle Mariners. We have JJ Cooper
37:05
Speaker 1: with more on the Arizona Diamondbacks return with the Seattle
37:10
Speaker 1: Mariners deal. So let's cue that if we have it,
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Speaker 1: do we have it good to go?
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Speaker 5: So what did the d Backs get for first baseman
37:17
Speaker 5: Josh Taylor. Well, let's start by just saying, if you
37:20
Speaker 5: are trading a rental first baseman, Naylor will be a
37:24
Speaker 5: free agency end of the season. You're not going to
37:26
Speaker 5: get a ton. Don't expect a top hundred prospect, and
37:28
Speaker 5: you didn't see that. Here you are talking about Ashton Iszy,
37:31
Speaker 5: right hander who is the number thirteen prospect in our
37:33
Speaker 5: Mariner's top thirty, and Brandon Garcia, left hander who's our
37:37
Speaker 5: number nineteen prospect. They're very different though they're both pitchers.
37:40
Speaker 5: But in Izy you are talking about a potential starter,
37:44
Speaker 5: one who is far away. He's an a ball right now,
37:47
Speaker 5: he has a starter's mix, he manages to miss bats.
37:51
Speaker 5: There's everything here to maybe be a starter, But you're
37:53
Speaker 5: also talking about a guy who's an a ball who
37:55
Speaker 5: has a lot of those a lot of work to do,
37:58
Speaker 5: because there's a lot of work between a ball and
38:01
Speaker 5: the big leagues. If he develops as now the as
38:05
Speaker 5: the Mariners hoped and now the d Backs hope, you
38:07
Speaker 5: are talking about a guy who could start, could be
38:09
Speaker 5: three four years down the road in Arizona. That's a
38:12
Speaker 5: realistic timeline. If everything goes right, that's good. But at
38:16
Speaker 5: the same time, you also have to acknowledge that a
38:18
Speaker 5: lot of these pitchers who look like this in a
38:21
Speaker 5: ball end up being relievers. Some of them end up
38:24
Speaker 5: getting hurt, some of them run into control troubles or
38:27
Speaker 5: other things that derail them along the way. You are
38:29
Speaker 5: talking about a chance at a big league starter who
38:32
Speaker 5: also has a chance to be a big league believer,
38:34
Speaker 5: and you just understand that you are taking the risk
38:36
Speaker 5: that a lot of things still have to happen for
38:38
Speaker 5: this to all come together. Garcia's very much the opposite
38:43
Speaker 5: end of the spectrum here. Garcia is a big league
38:46
Speaker 5: ready did pitch a couple of games with Seattle, big
38:49
Speaker 5: league ready lefty reliever. It's solid stuff. You're talking about
38:53
Speaker 5: a ninety six ninety seven nine hour sinker. He works
38:57
Speaker 5: very horizontally in and out. He's a left with a
39:00
Speaker 5: sweeper and a sinker who you're kind of you're kind
39:04
Speaker 5: of going to really expect him to be solid against
39:06
Speaker 5: lefties and you hope he's good enough against right handed
39:08
Speaker 5: hitters to make it work as a optionable reliever. I
39:13
Speaker 5: think that is a key thing here. Everyone needs everyone.
39:16
Speaker 5: Every team covets relievers who can go up and down.
39:19
Speaker 5: So when you are worn out in your bullpen, you
39:22
Speaker 5: can send a guy down, or if you're worn out
39:24
Speaker 5: and you need to bring a guy up, you can
39:26
Speaker 5: bring a guy up, and then when you are kind
39:28
Speaker 5: of in a better place, you can send that guy
39:30
Speaker 5: back down. That is something that Brandon Garcia will be
39:32
Speaker 5: able to do for a couple of years here. I
39:34
Speaker 5: would say you're talking more likely about a lower leverage reliever,
39:37
Speaker 5: not someone who's going to pitch the eighth or the ninth,
39:39
Speaker 5: but the ability to do that right now, especially if
39:42
Speaker 5: you can start to throw a few more a few
39:45
Speaker 5: more consistent and quality strikes, that's a useful reliever to have,
39:49
Speaker 5: which is a nice pickup. As we said, for a
39:52
Speaker 5: rental first baseman. But if you're Seattle, you were able
39:55
Speaker 5: to add a first baseman who will definitely upgrade a
39:59
Speaker 5: clear weak spot for the team, and you did it
40:01
Speaker 5: without dipping into the top end of what is a
40:05
Speaker 5: very impressive top tier of prospects.
40:09
Speaker 1: Mike Rodriguez with the report. According to sources close to
40:12
Speaker 1: the ORG, the Cubs have decided not to hold any
40:14
Speaker 1: of their promises in the minor league system. Front Op's
40:16
Speaker 1: ready to consider offers for any younger player types. We've
40:18
Speaker 1: seen this from quite a few insiders to Moyses Balisteros,
40:22
Speaker 1: Jefferson Rojas, Kevin Alcantra, Christian Hernandez. I'll add Owen Casey
40:27
Speaker 1: to the mix here. This is a good problem, Kratz.
40:32
Speaker 1: They have developed some solid position player talent in the
40:35
Speaker 1: minor league since they are ready to make moves, and
40:38
Speaker 1: they will make moves. So let's keep an eye on
40:40
Speaker 1: the Cubs, and yes, in two minutes, we're all over
40:43
Speaker 1: this Rocky Yankees trade. But Kratz, Cubs I think need
40:47
Speaker 1: a bullpen piece, a starter who can start a playoff game.
40:52
Speaker 1: I think is probably number one. I would say that's
40:55
Speaker 1: number one on the list. Bullpen piece two, third basement three,
41:01
Speaker 1: whether it's somebody that know you think they're gonna roll
41:04
Speaker 1: with Shaw.
41:07
Speaker 2: I love Shaw's defense. I get it, you know, he's
41:10
Speaker 2: he's he really struggles against east and west pitches. But
41:14
Speaker 2: I really like Shaw's defense at third, some of the
41:17
Speaker 2: plays he's making and keeps him athletic. He runs the
41:19
Speaker 2: base as well. You got to get on base to
41:22
Speaker 2: run the bases. But I to me, they have you
41:27
Speaker 2: have to, you have to push hard for some type
41:29
Speaker 2: of starting pitcher. And I would love to see them say,
41:34
Speaker 2: you know what, we're the team that's gonna push hard
41:36
Speaker 2: for Sandy al Contra. And I say that because if
41:41
Speaker 2: he continues to trend up by the time he gets
41:44
Speaker 2: to September, do they have him as their number two
41:48
Speaker 2: starter in the playoffs? Like I just I just feel
41:53
Speaker 2: like they're in a position to maybe be a little reckless.
41:57
Speaker 2: Like Bellisterio Stick called up earlier this year, it didn't
42:01
Speaker 2: work out, it's time. It's okay to give a dude
42:04
Speaker 2: that's hitting like three point fifty to another team. And
42:06
Speaker 2: it may look like a bad trade right out the gate,
42:09
Speaker 2: but the Labor Torres for Roaldus Chapman trade looked like
42:12
Speaker 2: a bad trade and what did that get the Cubs
42:15
Speaker 2: a World Series? The Cubs won to win a World Series,
42:18
Speaker 2: they traded for Kyle Tucker to win this year.
42:21
Speaker 1: It was one of the best trades of all time.
42:23
Speaker 1: Why because they hadn't won a World Series in over
42:26
Speaker 1: a century and they acquired a guy that helped them
42:29
Speaker 1: win a World Series and you don't know if they
42:31
Speaker 1: win it without him. They had a super small circle
42:33
Speaker 1: of trust back then for Joe Madden riding the couple
42:37
Speaker 1: guys that he felt good about in the bullpen, and
42:39
Speaker 1: it worked out for them. It's the same status here.
42:42
Speaker 1: But the point is they have prospect that they're in
42:44
Speaker 1: a good position to swing a deal.
42:47
Speaker 2: Good, be a little reckless.
43:01
Speaker 1: Let's slap. We got a few extra minutes for it.
43:03
Speaker 1: So we can look ahead at the weekend schedule, crats,
43:05
Speaker 1: So take a glance when you get a chance and
43:07
Speaker 1: tell me what you're going to be watching for me.
43:09
Speaker 1: I'm looking at anything that involves potential players that can
43:12
Speaker 1: be dealt. Also, some reminders for everyone. Next week, we're
43:16
Speaker 1: on like we usually are one to three Eastern, except
43:18
Speaker 1: for Thursday. Thursday is one to six pm Eastern, so
43:22
Speaker 1: we can take you through the trade deadline. It is
43:24
Speaker 1: deadline day on a Thursday, and there are not many
43:27
Speaker 1: games as far as I know too, which makes it
43:29
Speaker 1: even better. You can just focus on the trades. Aj
43:32
Speaker 1: Pierzinski will be back with us next week. We have
43:34
Speaker 1: invites out to basically any insider or national reporter regardless
43:39
Speaker 1: of publication, so we'll get as many of them as
43:42
Speaker 1: we can from Monday through Friday to break down what
43:45
Speaker 1: happens leading up to it, and then the Friday Show
43:47
Speaker 1: is always fun after it to recap all of the deals.
43:50
Speaker 1: All right, krats, you got something you're circling this weekend
43:53
Speaker 1: for US Mets Giants.
43:56
Speaker 2: What are the Mets? What are the Mets? They are
44:00
Speaker 2: a team that has built their pitching and their offense
44:04
Speaker 2: needs to go out there. They need to go out
44:07
Speaker 2: there and they need to kind of carry this team
44:09
Speaker 2: through the time when they're pitching is like, we're not
44:12
Speaker 2: sure what we're doing. They went and got Gregorysoto and
44:17
Speaker 2: they're in San Francisco. A lot of under there. They
44:21
Speaker 2: gotta face. Logan Web is not who you're looking to
44:24
Speaker 2: face when you're trying to start a series out on
44:27
Speaker 2: the weekend. It's gonna be a tough series out there,
44:29
Speaker 2: probably a lot of low scoring games, though.
44:33
Speaker 1: For me, here's a few. The Royals want to stay
44:37
Speaker 1: involved and be buyers this according to Ken Rosenthal earlier
44:41
Speaker 1: on our show, you need to take it to the
44:44
Speaker 1: Cleveland Guardians. It's a good matchup. It starts with Waka
44:48
Speaker 1: against Gavin Williams. Williams been pretty solid lately. You need
44:52
Speaker 1: to win that series. Another one in the same realm.
44:55
Speaker 1: If the Texas Rangers want to try and give you
44:58
Speaker 1: a little taste of what they did in twenty twenty
45:00
Speaker 1: they were not a great spot in the regular season.
45:02
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty three, they just made it. They were
45:04
Speaker 1: a wild card team that could happen again. It's a
45:07
Speaker 1: really good pitching staff. Can the offense come around? And
45:10
Speaker 1: can you beat down Atlanta in a series this week?
45:13
Speaker 1: Going to beat up Atlanta team, So Kratz, that one
45:16
Speaker 1: for me stands out. I think San Diego and Saint
45:19
Speaker 1: Louis as well. I want to see Nick Pivetta tonight
45:21
Speaker 1: against Miles Michaelis and also the Padres got to get
45:24
Speaker 1: going a little bit. You know. I like this team
45:26
Speaker 1: since the offseason, but this is a big day for
45:29
Speaker 1: Nick Pivetta. They spend some money on him to shove
45:32
Speaker 1: it to a Cardinals team that's probably in cell mode.
45:35
Speaker 1: But I think if the Cardinals one tonight, they'd be
45:37
Speaker 1: like a game and a half or two away from
45:40
Speaker 1: the Padres. So some of this starts to get very interesting.
45:44
Speaker 2: It does, and you look at even you know, the
45:46
Speaker 2: Diamondbacks obviously started selling. They're three and a half before
45:51
Speaker 2: two and a half behind behind the Cardinals, and the
45:53
Speaker 2: Cardinals like, yeah, I get it, I get what you're
45:56
Speaker 2: saying looking at those series, but there's definitely some There's
45:59
Speaker 2: two stoppers, and you mentioned one of them. Pavetta needs
46:03
Speaker 2: to go out and be the stopper for because I
46:05
Speaker 2: think Michael King's the better pitcher when he's healthy, but
46:07
Speaker 2: he's not there right now. So Pavetta needs to be
46:10
Speaker 2: the stopper for the Padres. He needs to get this
46:13
Speaker 2: team back on the winning track, no matter what the
46:15
Speaker 2: offense does, which has to start picking it up. And
46:18
Speaker 2: to me, Tarrek Scoogle, anytime Terror Scooble's pitching, he has
46:22
Speaker 2: to go out and win. And no more in this
46:25
Speaker 2: entire season, maybe even the last two seasons, has there
46:28
Speaker 2: been a bigger time for him to help this team
46:31
Speaker 2: out of this slide that they've been on.
46:35
Speaker 1: I'm not even going to look at the Fox schedule,
46:38
Speaker 1: but I'm going to guess with confidence that they are
46:40
Speaker 1: covering the Phillies Yankees and the Dodgers, Red Sox Big
46:43
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46:46
Speaker 1: You'll probably get them nationally. As my guess see if
46:49
Speaker 1: the Yankees can bounce back there four and a half
46:51
Speaker 1: away from Toronto. And for the Dodgers and the Red Sox,
46:55
Speaker 1: I don't know if the Dodgers are gonna have Mookie
46:57
Speaker 1: Betts this week, and I know he's out for some
46:58
Speaker 1: personal reasons at least for a game or two. I'm
47:01
Speaker 1: not sure what his deal is. And with Boston, you
47:04
Speaker 1: gotta get yourself a little roll proved to the GM
47:07
Speaker 1: that he should push some chips in at the deadline. Lastly,
47:10
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