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Chronicle of Army's Triple Championship and Historic Wins · Sports History Network

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  Hello, my football friends.
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  This is Darin Hayes of pigskindispatch.com welcome once again to the Pig Pen, your portal to positive football history.
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  And welcome to another Tuesday where we get to visit with our friend Timothy p.
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  Brown of footballarchaeology.com Tim.
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  Welcome back to the Pig Pen, Darren.
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  Good to chat with you again.
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  And I think this is going to be story about some pears.
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  Yeah, this is a, a really interesting one.
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  Mr.
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  Inside.
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  Mr.
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  Outside of army, it's a article you titled Doc Blanchard and Glenn Davis.
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  What can you tell us about this story?
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  Well, before getting into them and no cheating, no looking at the article if you have it pulled up online, there have been six schools that have had back to back Heisman Trophy winners.
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  Okay.
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  With army with Doc Blanchard and Glenn Davis being the second such school.
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  So let's see if you can guess either the schools or, you know, the individuals, you know, take a shot at it.
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  Well, I know Notre Dame's one of them because.
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  But you have was a Michi and somebody else.
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  Nope.
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  No, Because we're.
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  There's a Notre Dame one.
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  I know that in fact.
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  No, there is not.
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  Oh, no.
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  Okay.
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  At least not, not according to my, my sources.
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  Okay.
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  Well, there is a, an Alabama though, recently.
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  Correct.
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  Devonta Smith and Bryce Young.
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  Right.
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  I know that.
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  2020 and 2021.
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  I, I guess I don't know the other ones then.
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  Okay.
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  Another one was, you know, fairly recent.
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  Oklahoma.
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  Oh, yeah, yeah.
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  Okay.
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  Baker Mayfield and Kyler Murphy, usc.
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  Now one of these is vacated, so.
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  Oh, that's right.
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  Okay.
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  Reggie Bush and Leiner.
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  Yeah.
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  And then Archie Griffin.
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  All right.
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  Okay.
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  Yeah, that's back to back the same guy, but yeah.
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  And then the first one was.
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  Yeah.
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  Larry Kelly and Clint Frank.
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  Okay.
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  In 36 and 37.
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  So they were the third or the second.
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  Third Heisman Trophy winners.
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  All right, interesting.
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  So.
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  Interesting.
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  So, okay.
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  But you know, focusing on Blanchard and Davis, you know, they're, they're, you know, kind of an interesting pair because, you know, I mean, army and Navy too, you know, just had these powerful teams in during World War II,
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  you know, because you could still have, you know, students, you know, they basically were, they could be in the military in the, in, in the sense that they were in one of the service academies and Air Force didn't
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  exist yet.
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  So.
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  They, so they were kind of students and you know, I mean, they were students obviously, but it was just like, you know, most schools lost so many of their guys, but because they were army and Navy, they, they
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  actually attracted, you know, players and I think even either Blanchard or Davis actually played somewhere else first and then went to, then went to Army.
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  But anyways, I mean, like they're 44 team, just like they went nine zero, won the national title.
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  They held all their opponents to seven points or fewer, scored 46 or more seven times, you know, and this is, this is, you know, back in older school football, you know, it wasn't like purely running up the gut
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  stuff, but, you know, like you said, Mr.
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  Inside and outside, the 45 team had wins over 48 nothing win over Notre Dame, 61 nothing over Penn.
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  You know, two powerful teams.
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  You know, at the time.
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  You know, now exactly what they were like, you know, those warriors, I'm not sure.
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  And then a 46 team, 901, including the Yankee Stadium tie with Notre Dame, who was then number two.
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  So they ended up winning there, winning the third national championship.
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  But, you know, so one of the things that's kind of cool in the, this article and it's worth checking out, know, to, you know, click on the link that you provide is that it, it includes the, you know,
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  diagrams of, of the plays, you know, of two plays.
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  So there's a Davis quick sweep that, you know, Colonel Earl H.
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  Blake, you know, diagram for, you know, some advertising thing that Atlas tires in 1940, some, you know, advertising premium that I picked up along the way.
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  And yeah, it's just a classic.
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  Like, you know, when I coached, you know, a couple of teams that I coached with, we basically ran wing T.
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  And so some of the blocking schemes, you know, it kind of looks like the Packer sweep, you know, you got the, you know, the guard, everybody's kind of pulling to the play side or not, they're reaching to the
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  play side, you know, and just, you know, just trying to stretch it out.
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  And then these guys just, you know, the whole backfield lead blocks, you know, running the right or to the left.
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  So I'm just kind of an interesting, you know, it's play design we don't see much of anymore.
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  Right.
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  I mean, we tend to since people have gone, you know, really since the modern key, you know, that's a lot of much more quick hitting place.
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  You know, we still see sweeps a lot of times nowadays.
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  It's going to ends.
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  But anyway, so you got the quick sweep to him and then Blanchard, you know, it's basically a counter play.
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  So out of a full house tee, he's the full back and he takes a jab step to the right and cuts back to the left.
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  And that was one of his primary plays.
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  So just know they, you know, they.
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  They had obviously a tremendous coach in, In Blake.
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  And then, you know, just these two complimentary backs, you know, that just made it really tough, you know, to, you know, how.
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  You know, it's just.
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  It's difficult to, you know, when.
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  When you got a team that has Heisman level.
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  Mr.
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  Inside and Mr.
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  Outside.
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  You know, I mean, just imagine the, you know, what it looked like to, you know, looking down the barrel of that gun, you know.
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  Yeah.
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  Because it's just met.
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  Oh, man, they were.
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  They were really good.
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  Yeah.
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  Amazing team.
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  Of course, Bill, we gotta.
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  We gotta think about the two.
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  Like you alluded to, everybody else in college football was depleted because of the war or the service.
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  Teams were.
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  They were stockpiled, you know, so.
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  Yeah.
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  Although, like, you know, in 46, those probably had to.
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  46, 47 had to be some of the most talented teams that ever played college football because, like, even in 45, there were guys getting released.
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  Like, if you were in the US when the war ended, they were looking to get rid of, you know, I mean, the military mustered people out as quickly as they could.
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  And yet they were like, my dad got, you know, drafted later in 45 and then ended up in Japan not too long after that.
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  But, you know, so they were still pulling new guys in, but a lot of people, they were just get them out.
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  So then in.
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  In.
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  But in 46 and 47, the colleges were just filled with guys who had gone into the military anywhere from 41 through 45.
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  Right.
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  So they just had a, you know, so many talented players.
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  So I mean, like 46.
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  To have that level of talent and then just beat the snot out of people.
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  I mean, army just had to be unbelievable.
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  Yeah.
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  You know, and then, you know, they.
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  They played, you know, big high profile games.
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  You know, the games like the Notre Dame game and in Yankee Stadium and stuff like that, just, you know, you know, one of the greatest games ever, probably.
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  So I don't know, just really, it's, you know, kind of a just cool thing that they had the two Heisman Trophy winners and then, you know, the nature of the time just made it so interesting.
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  Yeah, I.
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  I look too to see.
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  And you are correct.
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  Notre Dame didn't have.
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  I was.
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  I said amici.
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  It wasn't a Michi.
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  I was thinking of Bertelli, But Bertelli was 43.
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  But the two that were really close was Lou Jack and Leon Hart.
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  But there was a year there was 47 and 49.
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  They weren't consecutive.
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  So yeah, yeah.
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  I mean, she was a badger.
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  Yeah, yeah.
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  I've got.
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  Got the Italian name sounding name.
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  Yeah, yeah.
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  Mixed up there.
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  Fratelli.
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  But yeah, as long as you bring up.
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  As long as you bring up Amici, though, he's the answer to, well, half the answer to one of the great trivia questions of name a set of cousins who were Heisman Trophy winners and Best Supporting Actor winners.
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  Well, I guess Amici's probably gonna be.
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  There you go.
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  Yeah.
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  His cousin, Don Amici.
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  Oh, okay.
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  They were.
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  They were relatives.
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  I didn't really.
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  Yeah.
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  Put that together.
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  He won Best Sporting Actor for.
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  I'm blanking on the name of the movie.
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  It's where these, you know, the old guys are swimming and stuff.
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  You know, I mean, they get.
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  Something happens where they become young again or they.
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  They have the.
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  The.
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  It's like cocoon or something like that.
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  Oh, okay.
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  Yeah, yeah, okay.
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  Yeah, you're right.
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  He was in that.
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  So.
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  But, well, Donna Michi has a connection to football because I believe he was one of the owners of the AFC's Los Angeles Dons.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right.
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  I forgot about that.
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  Yeah.
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  So him and about three other four other stars, Hollywood stars were big sponsors of them.
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  So.
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  Yeah.
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  So interesting stuff.
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