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September 2, 2025 · The Hot Line w/ Jeff Graham

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[SPEAKER_04]: CBS's Jake Rose, and a fifty-two-page ruling U.S.
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[SPEAKER_04]: District Judge Charles Breyer, found that the president and his administration violated the Posse Communist Act,
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[SPEAKER_04]: an eighteen seventy-eight law that prohibits the use of the military for domestic law enforcement.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Breyer blocked the Trump administration from deploying or using the National Guard currently deployed in California or any military troops in the state for civilian law enforcement.
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[SPEAKER_10]: But the judge said the troops still remaining don't have to leave.
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[SPEAKER_10]: On social media today, President Trump called Chicago the most dangerous city he's considering federal action there.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Not a Washington correspondent to Cole Killian reports Congress is back with action-needed soon to head off a possible government shutdown.
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[SPEAKER_12]: You have a lot of concern with the, quote, beautiful bill that Congress passed as well.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Obviously, that was a Republican bill.
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[SPEAKER_12]: But Democrats remain concerned about those cuts to Medicaid and SNAP and really feel that this could be an opportunity with respect to government funding to try to leverage some of those issues to try to maybe restore some of that funding.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Overseas, a landslide wiped out an entire village in Sudan's Darfur region and a rebel group controlling the area is appealing for internationally.
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[SPEAKER_30]: CBS's Rami and Ascencio Local sources indicate that between three hundred and one thousand people may have been killed and if it doesn't end up being at that top end then that would make this landslide one of Sudan's deadliest natural disasters in modern times.
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[SPEAKER_10]: There have been powerful aftershocks reported today near the epicenter of a major earthquake in Afghanistan with a death toll tops, fourteen hundred.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Jerusalem reported a linda gradstein tells us additional forces have been called up in Israel.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The call-up of reserves comes as Israel prepares to take over Gaza City after ordering the one million Palestinians who live there to move to safe zones in the south of Gaza.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He broomedia report that many reserves have requested exemptions for personal or financial reasons and units are seeing lower turnout than in previous emergency call-ups.
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[SPEAKER_10]: A stock market dip today is being blamed on Friday's court ruling against President Trump's tariffs, strategist Michael Far.
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[SPEAKER_32]: There could be a court challenge to President Trump's tariffs and that many of the revenues collected would have to be returned.
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[SPEAKER_32]: That was unwelcome news for markets this morning that really do hate uncertainty.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I said, Mom, go ask Google how much Verizon spends on advertising and promotion.
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[SPEAKER_11]: A few seconds later, my mother said, oh my goodness, twelve billion dollars a year?
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[SPEAKER_11]: I'll tell you what I told my mom.
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[SPEAKER_11]: It's not a typo.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Verizon spends twelve billion dollars a year on advertising and promotion and their customers are paying for it.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Almost had a different name.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Peter Dukes created the pumpkin spice latte back in two thousand three.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But he told people magazine back then pumpkin flavored things weren't that popular.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they almost went with another name instead.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The fall harvest latte.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But they ultimately decided to give the PSL a go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And while it was well-liked at first, it really became a cold favorite years later when it blew up on social media.
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[SPEAKER_26]: Come on, it's pumpkin spice time.
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[SPEAKER_26]: When it comes to fall, I'm about as basic as it gets.
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[SPEAKER_22]: Partly sunny today, watch for a shower in the area, the high up to seventy-eight.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Well, good afternoon.
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[SPEAKER_13]: You're one at all.
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[SPEAKER_13]: It's a Tuesday.
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[SPEAKER_13]: We're back from the holiday weekend.
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[SPEAKER_13]: What a gorgeous weekend.
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[SPEAKER_13]: It was what a gorgeous Tuesday.
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[SPEAKER_13]: This is temperature of seventy six degrees on the outside under bright bright sunshine.
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[SPEAKER_13]: We're not going to beat around the bush here.
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[SPEAKER_13]: We've got Anthony Velasquez here.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Council candidate want to for running on the ballot and Mr. Velasquez.
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[SPEAKER_13]: How are you?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Good.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Great to be back in.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Okay, good to have you back.
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[SPEAKER_13]: You a school teacher, school starts this week.
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[SPEAKER_13]: You're not playing hockey, are you?
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[SPEAKER_07]: No, no, I'm on my lunch right now.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Okay, that's good.
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[SPEAKER_13]: That's good.
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[SPEAKER_13]: One of the kids go back to class.
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[SPEAKER_07]: A lot of area districts actually started today.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Watertown was today was our opening day for staff, faculty, staff, administration.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Thursday is the first day for students.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Okay, I have to ask you because it's in the news.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Of course.
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[SPEAKER_13]: But you're in the front lines of the cell phone band.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, we are.
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[SPEAKER_13]: You're a fifth grade teacher so you have to take their cell phones put them in a bag which is locked and the student has a key and then you put all the bags away.
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[SPEAKER_13]: How the heck is that gonna work?
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[SPEAKER_07]: You know, I don't, it's one of those things that we don't necessarily know exactly how it's going to work until we see it in action.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It's one of these things that a lot of it's going to be trial and error, seeing what works best.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I agree with the cell phone ban, though, overall.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Phone's are an inherent distraction.
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[SPEAKER_07]: My only thing is, you know, phones are a tool, and I wish we as a society over the past, you know, fifteen years, is this technology took off?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Did a better job of teaching cell phones as a tool?
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[SPEAKER_13]: Well, that's not, but in fifth grade is everybody have a cell phone.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Pretty much.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Really?
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[SPEAKER_13]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_13]: How far down does that go?
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[SPEAKER_13]: Like pre-K or something to them?
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[SPEAKER_07]: You know, I really couldn't tell you.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It's usually an individual family decision.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I know myself.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm old enough now to where my first phone was a flip phone that I got in the seventh grade and we still had to pay for minutes.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Your agent.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, I know.
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[SPEAKER_13]: I remember we didn't have phones, and you know what?
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[SPEAKER_13]: We didn't know any different.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It gets had the rotary phones.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Rotary phones, and if somebody wanted to get a hold of that to call the office.
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[SPEAKER_07]: The party lines, right?
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[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, there you go.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Now you're running for City Council.
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[SPEAKER_13]: You got it in the race.
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[SPEAKER_13]: You did well in the primary.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Everybody says that you finished fourth.
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[SPEAKER_13]: So you're one of the gang of four on the ballot in November.
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[SPEAKER_13]: But you're two hundred and fifty votes behind second place.
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[SPEAKER_13]: How do you switch that up?
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[SPEAKER_07]: A lot of it comes down to, you know, I hate this term, but boots on the ground and voter outreach and making sure you're seeing everywhere, making sure you're connecting with as many city voters as possible and, you know, making sure that you're in tune with the issues that matter to them.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, I'm one of those city voters who did not vote for any of the four who succeeded.
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[SPEAKER_13]: And so there's people like me, and after convince, plus others who didn't vote at all, plus do you see any possibility of persuading people who voted for some, or they kind of locked in?
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[SPEAKER_07]: No, there's there's always persuasion that can occur in politics.
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[SPEAKER_07]: A lot of it really comes down to, you know, you knock on someone's door and they say, hey, I didn't vote for you in the primary.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And, you know, you get down to, well, why not?
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[SPEAKER_07]: A lot of it, you know, it's a city council race.
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[SPEAKER_07]: The fact of the matter is a lot of the candidates were not saying anything drastically different.
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[SPEAKER_07]: A lot of it really comes down to, dare I say, personality.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Popularity.
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[SPEAKER_07]: popularity, you know, we're going to get in there and having a agenda or do anything or are they just going to go along whatever this city manager says.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Well, I can assure you, because that's actually a good point.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I can assure you that I've never been one to just go along to get along.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I can be kind of a contentious individual.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I was always raised, I was raised to always question everything and to never stop asking questions.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Does that make you a con, Chris?
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[SPEAKER_13]: I mean, are you the judge?
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[SPEAKER_07]: No, no.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I would not call it belligerent, but it's a natural curiosity in a, hey, you know, I'm not a status quo person.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm not the person that you can tell.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, it's always been this way and let's say.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Well, we might outspoken, but we got that with Cliff only.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_07]: No, I'm not him.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_13]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_13]: and I said yes.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It's been very quiet and it kind of did give me a chance as you've probably noticed.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I've been one of the more outspoken candidates over the summer.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I took a break from the formal campaigning, but I always made sure that when there was an issue going on in the city that I was at the forefront and that I made my opinion known and I said, hey, I'm following this and you know, I'm on your side.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Okay, well, issues of what people talk about around the water cooler or the cracker barrel back in the old days.
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[SPEAKER_13]: But one issue that kind of came my way last couple days, I got a couple of photos sent to me.
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[SPEAKER_13]: One of some homeless people with a couple dogs sitting on the sidewalk in front of Mr. Subdown Town.
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[SPEAKER_13]: And this morning, I got one, a tent pitched
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[SPEAKER_13]: in the back and back of Pete's restaurant on his property with a shopping cart there and all the usual accoutrements that go with the shopping cart living.
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[SPEAKER_13]: I mean, a business man like that trying to project a positive image to customers.
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[SPEAKER_13]: And that kind of stuff's going on.
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[SPEAKER_13]: What do you say to them?
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[SPEAKER_13]: I mean, what do they do it?
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[SPEAKER_13]: He actually text to me on, what do I do to a higher security to push him out or I call the cops?
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[SPEAKER_07]: The tough thing is, with an issue like this on private property, it ultimately comes down to their trespassing.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It's an unwanted individual law enforcement does need to be involved.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Now with that said, we need to be compassionate.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I can't stress that enough.
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[SPEAKER_07]: A lot of these folks, some of these folks fell in hard times.
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[SPEAKER_07]: There's a lot of mental health.
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[SPEAKER_07]: issues going on in the community.
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[SPEAKER_07]: There's a lot of addiction.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I know that the city council last year passed a past two local laws, one that prohibited camping on city property.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And the second prohibited, you know, leaving your belongings on sidewalks and stuff like that.
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[SPEAKER_13]: No, I don't know about this.
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[SPEAKER_13]: The passing these laws, this really calls me.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, to say a camp on city property.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Well, actually, I think they should have camping organized camping up in the park or somewhere like that, but not
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[SPEAKER_13]: press passing and that law doesn't really draw the distinction in time to outlaw everything.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It's a big gray area.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I will say, though, the biggest, I mean, I saw Shannon's article.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I saw her letter.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I spoke to the news about it.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It's been a problem over the past several years.
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[SPEAKER_07]: My biggest area of concern right now as it pertains to businesses.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So we received the dry grant in twenty seventeen.
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[SPEAKER_07]: We invested heavily in our downtown area.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Public square right now looks better than it's looked in my lifetime.
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[SPEAKER_07]: You know, we have
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[SPEAKER_07]: Great we have we have a plethora does look good.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I will give you that we have a plethora of small businesses and you know I enjoy patronizing the businesses on public square, but well they don't enjoy Shannon It's becoming an issue to NATO was the one to raise the issue last week.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, you spoke out on it the others were silent, but The homeless people in the old Strauss walkway Been a problem in there with the human waste over the years.
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[SPEAKER_13]: I can remember that yeah
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[SPEAKER_13]: found a map addresses in there.
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[SPEAKER_13]: She's upset.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Reflex on her business, but you know, she has to go out and call was the gates now.
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[SPEAKER_13]: There's another, what do you say to her, oh, that's a black eye on downtown.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_13]: It isn't just, oh, poor Shannon, it's, um, everybody.
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[SPEAKER_07]: All we need to respectfully and compassionately move these folks away from those areas.
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[SPEAKER_07]: You cannot camp in those walkways.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Those are supposed to be public access walkways.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And people frequently use those walkways, you know, to travel from the parking lots out back to public square proper.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_07]: well your pictures on news junkie oh great so that that's a boost for the campaign right there um are you famous now the people come up to you uh it's nice on occasion um i took some advice recently and i go grocery shopping i get some looks i i get more looks than i used to you know what you do somebody looks at you say
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[SPEAKER_13]: What's your hand out?
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[SPEAKER_13]: I Anthony Velasquez.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I have done that actually at the block party so I'm done that.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, I mean, you got to ask for the vote.
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[SPEAKER_13]: That's how it works.
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[SPEAKER_13]: And I think people want somebody who's assertive.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I think assertive but respectful.
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[SPEAKER_07]: You know, I'm trying to paint myself accurately.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I might add as in every man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: You know, you alluded to it as we started the show.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm a school teacher.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm a middle class guy.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I don't have excess.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm doing okay.
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[SPEAKER_07]: You know, I'm educated.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm outspoken.
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[SPEAKER_07]: But I just want the best for this community overall.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Well, we're going to take a commercial break.
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[SPEAKER_13]: We got Anthony Velazquez here.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Council candidate, be back with more at a moment if you have questions you can call in.
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[SPEAKER_13]: All right, we're back on the hotline here.
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[SPEAKER_13]: We've got Anthony Velasquez City Council candidate.
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[SPEAKER_13]: The guy who's trying to make up some ground and he's trying to do it by coming on the hotline where you have other candidates this week, dog eyes born tomorrow.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Peter Monaco on Thursday and next Tuesday, Shane Garibrand.
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[SPEAKER_13]: So we appreciate them doing that.
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[SPEAKER_13]: We're trying to let them reintroduce themselves to the electorate.
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[SPEAKER_13]: And then let the rest of the mainstream legacy media carry the race from there.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Now we got a lot of different things to talk about.
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[SPEAKER_13]: You were outspoken on the residency issue, particularly as it relates to the city manager and others.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_13]: We have city manager took a ride in a police patrol car the other night.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Is that?
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[SPEAKER_07]: He did, and honestly, that's admirable.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I respect his actions.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It just shows that he wants to be hands-on.
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[SPEAKER_07]: He is very involved in the city.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I just, you know, with his level of involvement, I still would prefer that he lives in the city, and he faces the same issues that the residents face.
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[SPEAKER_13]: We have a councilman who took a ride in the patrol car, remember that?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I do.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Anyway, it's nice that he did that.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Is that a gimmick?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Um, you know, in any of these administrative or political roles, something like that could be a gimmick, um, it did, I don't think it did any harm.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Sure.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sure it was somewhat of a gimmick.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Hmm.
20:58
[SPEAKER_13]: Okay.
20:59
[SPEAKER_13]: What do you think of the guy you've met him?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, I, I like him.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I think he's doing a good job.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Um, great.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Well, all of my interactions with him have been cordial.
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[SPEAKER_07]: He's very professional, very intelligent, very articulate.
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[SPEAKER_07]: But again, from a residency standpoint, that doesn't preclude him from living in the city.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Who is contract?
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[SPEAKER_13]: Well, he doesn't have a contract now, right?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Not right now.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Currently, no.
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[SPEAKER_13]: I'm in favor of voting for a new one in January.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I would vote in favor of a contract.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Okay, but you want to put on the ballot in November of twenty six a local law that would
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[SPEAKER_13]: bring something that's been taboo for years and that's mayoral governance.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Now most municipalities in New York have that where the mayor is elected to preside over the departments.
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[SPEAKER_07]: About two thirds of them.
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[SPEAKER_13]: And there's three types.
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[SPEAKER_13]: There's the mayoral city manager and commission government, which only Saratoga Springs says that.
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[SPEAKER_13]: We're not talking about that.
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[SPEAKER_13]: And the particulars would have to be worked out in the drafting of a local law, but you actually favor letting the voters decide the media and the power elites don't want the voters having their hands on that.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, quite frankly, I don't care what the elites think.
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[SPEAKER_07]: First of all, second of all, we always hear this buzzword democracy thrown out as it pertains to politics.
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[SPEAKER_07]: To truly have a democracy, I think it's time that we let the city residents, not even the residents, the city voters, those who show up in vote, those who are active in city politics, those who want to advance the city forward, I think that we need to craft a local law
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[SPEAKER_07]: And I will spearhead this craft a local law to include public hearings to put on the ballot in November of twenty twenty six, which is strategic.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_07]: You because it's a gubernatorial race.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So you'll have higher turnout.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It's also, you know, the midterms to what city residents decide you do.
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[SPEAKER_13]: That's an area on twenty seven.
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[SPEAKER_13]: You'd be electing a strong mayor for a government.
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[SPEAKER_13]: candidates would know that the voters would know that they have to pay more attention.
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[SPEAKER_13]: I get so tired of hearing.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Well, the voters might make Cliff the mayor.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Well, if they do, they do.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Well, they spoke.
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[SPEAKER_07]: If the voters elect, but here's the other thing with transitioning to a strong mayor form of government.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And I'm not taking a specific stance on this.
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[SPEAKER_07]: My biggest stance is I want the residents to decide if the residents are content and want to keep a city manager
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[SPEAKER_07]: I wholeheartedly support that or a man, you know none of the other three candidates will share that position.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I do.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I do.
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[SPEAKER_07]: But I'm not paying attention to the other candidates.
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[SPEAKER_07]: The only person I can control is myself.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Well, that sounds good.
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[SPEAKER_13]: We talked about residency, city manager.
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[SPEAKER_13]: You live actually.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Oh yeah, you live in the school district of York.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I do.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Do you think that makes you a better teacher?
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[SPEAKER_07]: I don't think it makes me a better teacher, per se, but it definitely gives me an additional connection to the families and to the students.
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[SPEAKER_07]: You know, I'll see them at stewards.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'll see them at the block parties.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'll, I remember, and I know this is the right way.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, actually.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I know you've disagreed with the time I was in the dunk tank at the block party.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It shows your vulnerability.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It shows that you're, you know, you're not in a lead.
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[SPEAKER_07]: You're willing to get your hands dirty.
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[SPEAKER_07]: You're.
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[SPEAKER_07]: But I had students that showed up in through twenty bucks and it's like, Oh, yeah, I want to dunk in.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Well, hopefully it did some good for somebody.
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[SPEAKER_13]: That type of thing.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Well, anyway, what was the topic you just raised budget taxes?
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[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, yeah, if whatever million dollars it is, first I'm gonna touch on this hydro power thing.
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[SPEAKER_13]: It's complicated.
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[SPEAKER_13]: I understand it because I lived it for, since it was enacted under Mayor Walker, that contract.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Most people don't understand it.
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[SPEAKER_13]: People who say, oh, let's negotiate a new thing.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Grid doesn't want that.
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[SPEAKER_07]: They won't do that.
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[SPEAKER_13]: No.
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[SPEAKER_13]: They want out of that thing as soon as possible.
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[SPEAKER_13]: So looking at it, I'm not sure there is a, quote, solution.
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[SPEAKER_13]: that substitutes six million dollars in money that you're going to lose a year.
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[SPEAKER_07]: There's not I read the hydro plan that the hydro committee put forth.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I want to say it was twenty twenty two and the best plan that I saw you know generates two point five to three million a year in revenue.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So if we go with that plan, we're still looking at a loss of about three million a year.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And then I heard you discuss on the hotline last week, you know, that we have to go through the licensing process again.
25:44
[SPEAKER_07]: And it was expensive in the nineties, and it's likely significantly more expensive now, considering the layers of bureaucracy involved.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Okay, so that's going to be an expansion.
25:54
[SPEAKER_13]: You don't know what's going to come.
25:55
[SPEAKER_13]: We were chatting all of that.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Well, all right, let's say you've got a three million dollar hole in the budget in two thousand thirty in addition to the usual holes that are there.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_13]: What do you do to make that up just to now if you raise taxes that would be about a twenty five percent increase in the levy twenty seven percent.
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[SPEAKER_13]: If you're going to do it that way.
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[SPEAKER_13]: That's not going to fly well with the guy who lives across the parking lot here or anybody else.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Oh no, and actually that's the thing is next budget year.
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[SPEAKER_13]: everything else held constant just the increase in salaries alone we're looking at the twenty five percent increase in the property tax rate next year and nobody's talking now about planning for that as in targeted cuts this year they gleefully went out and hired a probably nice guy just no blower they caught us no blower but they hired a tree yeah and whatever they call an arborist
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[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, now I'm sure I'm sure he's a nice guy just like the city manager is a nice guy, but can we afford that?
26:53
[SPEAKER_13]: Can they win?
26:54
[SPEAKER_13]: They had some vacancies in police.
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[SPEAKER_13]: They filled them all up.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Not saying I don't like police.
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[SPEAKER_13]: I just say there's a point at which we can't afford some of this.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, but so you mentioned police in fire.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Those are things that it would be a cold day and you know where before I touch a police in fire budget and I'll give you an example of why.
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[SPEAKER_07]: you know the homelessness issue we've discussed there's been a lot of fires in the city of water town recently there's a lot of fires over on the river river bank where these folks are on setting up their encampments police issues you know look on the police blotter on news junkie every weekend the city we have control there's a lot of this crime residents are becoming infuriated we need to do something and cutting police is not the answer especially right now
27:37
[SPEAKER_13]: Now I will say that it cuts something.
27:38
[SPEAKER_13]: What about the layers of management at city hall?
27:42
[SPEAKER_13]: When I was mayor, I mean, when one or two people got up to around six figures, it was like, oh, that's been up there.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Now you got, I don't know what the manager makes.
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[SPEAKER_13]: They tell me that there are police officers with overtime who make more than the manager.
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[SPEAKER_13]: uh... their chief makes one forty five the captain who i've never met x one thirty five uh... and uh... and i think they should put her on the come out of milk carton two along with the chief because they are like invisible uh... same and fire same with everything else uh... i don't even know what this assistant city manager makes she doesn't live in a city but also does his process foil requests from the guy up on the river
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[SPEAKER_07]: Well, you know, going back to it.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I know we discussed the residency issue already.
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[SPEAKER_07]: You know, I was in attendance at that council meeting where the residency issue was at the forefront.
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[SPEAKER_07]: My biggest problem with that, you know, we have great employees in the city who are doing great work.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm not trying to discount that fact.
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[SPEAKER_07]: But it seemed like a slap in the face to the residents to have a bunch of city employees and frankly bureaucrats show up and say, Oh, you know, I live in Alexandria Bay.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I live on Fort Drum.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I live here and you guys should
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[SPEAKER_07]: not implement or you guys should implement this residency exemption.
28:53
[SPEAKER_07]: Well, you know, that's your opinion and it's valid, but you're not a city resident, right?
28:59
[SPEAKER_07]: Where I'm advocating for the city residents, I'm advocating the city manager to live in the city to deal to see the homeless in this issue.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Some mixed blessing on that, though, for saying what you said, those people don't like you, but on the other hand, they can't live in the city.
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[SPEAKER_13]: They can't vote in the election.
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[SPEAKER_07]: You know what?
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[SPEAKER_13]: You know, I always knew every time I was mayor, no matter who was city manager, at least the city manager, the DPW chief, the police chief, the fire chief, the water superintendent, all those people, they were voting in the race I was running.
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[SPEAKER_13]: And I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
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[SPEAKER_13]: I hear these symbols and say, oh, well, they shouldn't be voting for who they work for.
29:38
[SPEAKER_13]: You know, that's nonsense.
29:40
[SPEAKER_13]: I heard somebody one time I was talking with soldiers, I don't think I should vote for my command or in chief.
29:45
[SPEAKER_13]: You out of your mind, that guy can send you to each Jesus to get killed.
29:49
[SPEAKER_07]: And again, it's, it's no hard feelings.
29:51
[SPEAKER_07]: You know, if we had a strong mayor form of government and knowing what, you know, our city manager's capable of, if he ran from mayor, I'd probably vote for him.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I think he's doing a good job.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I will tell you, and you've mentioned this before, and this is the one, this is a big area I agree with you on.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Budget wise.
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[SPEAKER_07]: No, the council absolutely absolutely should be guiding and telling the city manager what they want to see in the budget.
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[SPEAKER_07]: You know, see a budget with a twenty five percent tax rate increase and then try to cut fifty thousand from here and there.
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[SPEAKER_07]: No, I want to vote.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I want to see a budget with at no more than an eight or nine percent.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Well, how about the attack, whatever the tax cap is.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Well, it's two point.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, well, that was that was put into effect for a reason to try to at least keep some sanity to the process.
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[SPEAKER_13]: So what's wrong with the council saying.
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[SPEAKER_13]: We want a budget proposed in April that it here is to the New York State tax camp.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'd be curious to see if I get that done.
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[SPEAKER_13]: And if you want to add things to it, you can't.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_13]: You might be the hero.
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[SPEAKER_13]: I'll add this.
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[SPEAKER_13]: I'll add the arborist back in.
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[SPEAKER_13]: But if he's supposed to be the professional administrator, shouldn't he be able to make a budget that conforms to that if that's the wishes of the council.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Now, so far that hasn't been the wishes of the council.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_07]: But what this is going to do is this is going to create a lot of instability.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm not saying I'm against it.
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[SPEAKER_07]: But this is going to result in some staff, you know, cuts and some program cuts and some services being cut.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It's never an easy decision, but sometimes you need to take some short-term pain to achieve long-term success in prosperity.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And what's five years are going to be rough?
31:30
[SPEAKER_13]: Well, they're all rough.
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[SPEAKER_13]: We got a call here.
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[SPEAKER_28]: Good afternoon.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Good afternoon.
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[SPEAKER_28]: Good afternoon.
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[SPEAKER_28]: and higher and freezes to control the never-ending property taxes because there's no game planned.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I think we need to look very closely at every single department and absolutely consider some staff cutbacks.
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[SPEAKER_07]: First, it should be done through a tradition, though, you know, any folks nearing retirement.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It's as simple as when someone retires, you know, not filling that position until the budget is more stable.
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[SPEAKER_07]: A hiring freeze would be a good idea as well, and I would absolutely be open to that.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_13]: You know, I hear that all the time, whenever it's government jumps, through a tradition, not sure that's how it works in the real world.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Because what you're saying, if that person retires, we don't need them, the corollary of that is we don't need them.
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[SPEAKER_13]: And it's not nice to say that.
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[SPEAKER_13]: I know we like to offer incentives to retire in all of that.
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[SPEAKER_13]: That's been done before.
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[SPEAKER_07]: But the labor force is aging.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sure there are positions where the individuals are close to retirement.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And that would be the quickest way to achieve some cost savings.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Well, we'll see what happens.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Anthony Velasquez here, City Council candidate.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Got his picture on news, John Key, and even a headline, let Watertown residents vote on strong mayor form of government in November of twenty six.
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[SPEAKER_13]: You said it a few moments ago.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Opportunistic that you go first is now all the others can react to it.
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[SPEAKER_07]: absolutely and it was kind of it was honestly strategic on my end to go first because I kind of wanted to set the conversation and you know guide the narrative a little bit okay well let the record show when I announced we were doing these you were the first one to call so that
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[SPEAKER_07]: No, it wasn't.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I was.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I responded in one ten minutes.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, and you you're welcome to do a podcast as are the other candidates.
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[SPEAKER_13]: That's an additional means.
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[SPEAKER_13]: I won't be doing these interviews the rest of the campaign.
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[SPEAKER_13]: I think kicking it off this way.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, give people a little bit a little bit of a jump start and you can do Glenn show.
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[SPEAKER_13]: You can talk to our friends down the street.
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[SPEAKER_13]: You can go to the digital desk with Jeff Cole.
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[SPEAKER_13]: That's a big deal.
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[SPEAKER_13]: That's a big deal in life.
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[SPEAKER_13]: I've never been invited to the digital desk.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, you should go some time.
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[SPEAKER_13]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_13]: That's just, that's kind of beyond me.
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[SPEAKER_13]: I mean, I don't know if I could do that.
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[SPEAKER_13]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_13]: We're going to take this call.
37:43
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37:45
[SPEAKER_14]: Yes.
37:45
[SPEAKER_14]: I like an old person running for council.
37:49
[SPEAKER_14]: What do you plan to do about the sidewalks on our side?
37:53
[SPEAKER_14]: The city that have missing blocks on even blocks for people to walk on and then our site.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Of course.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So I do know from my conversations with previous council members as well as former mayors that there was a sidewalk program in place.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I absolutely think we should bring the sidewalk program back.
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[SPEAKER_07]: You know, a few minutes ago I discussed the budget situation.
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[SPEAKER_07]: There's certain things as it pertains to the budget that I don't mind spending money on as long as it's done thoughtfully.
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[SPEAKER_13]: infrastructures absolutely one of those things roads bridges snow removal sidewalks absolutely those are things that should basic necessities you know in city government absolutely we need to address okay sounds good three one five seven five twelve forty is a phone up those I've been around local politics hot hold issues always come up there's always somebody says all the streets are terrible well they're not all terrible now
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[SPEAKER_13]: And not all the sidewalks are too, not even don't get walked on much.
38:58
[SPEAKER_07]: Well, I will tell you, I was dropping off a sign on Bronson Street in the city, and a resident came out.
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[SPEAKER_07]: She was walking her dog and, you know, I walked right over, shook her hand and said, I introduced myself.
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[SPEAKER_07]: You know, I'm running for city council, whether you're concerns, and she looks at the street.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And she said, honestly, life is pretty good right now.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Fixed a street.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And I will say, Johnson Street is on my radar.
39:22
[SPEAKER_07]: That street looks like it's never been touched.
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[SPEAKER_13]: And I remember when I was running, if somebody up on sewered street, their big concern was the street light had been out for a while.
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[SPEAKER_13]: That type of thing it really is.
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[SPEAKER_13]: really gets a somebody told me they wanted a sign over unfair view street off to give you the address and show all right i would do that for anybody incident like and of course uh... that five tenies main is fair game for anybody if they want to use that uh... good afternoon here on the air no but afternoon here on the air yeah i have uh... couple of questions in a couple of comments first of all i agree with mr. the last goes on eliminating
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[SPEAKER_26]: the tree program in the forester.
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[SPEAKER_26]: I see that as a country addiction because if you look at the city managers report that's on news junkie from time to time, he's always talking about how they have to go and remediate sewer water rolls or water mains or something because of tree roots that have grown in and collapses or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_26]: long planning all these trees where they're never work trees on curbs and most of them are dying, but I see dollars going out the door when I see this little black truck riding around town with two people in it watering the tree bags is all the time.
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[SPEAKER_26]: Me is a complete waste of money and I'd rather see better sidewalks.
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[UNKNOWN]: Definitely.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Okay, anything else?
40:46
[SPEAKER_26]: My first comment.
40:47
[SPEAKER_26]: My second comment is I wonder how much being a council person is going to interfere with Mr. Velasca's job or his job is going to
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[SPEAKER_13]: Okay, thank you.
40:59
[SPEAKER_26]: As a teacher and my third comment is I watched a work session a couple of weeks ago and the DPW chief was talking about doing not doing away with a sticker program but requiring people that use the sticker program to put their bags and solve a trash cans anyway and me that also is a contradiction and it looks like it would make more work for the trash guys because they got an out only don't put the trash can back
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[SPEAKER_26]: Now they just have to dump it, and it also looks like from a worker's cops at the end point.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, okay.
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[SPEAKER_13]: So those are my comments.
41:35
[SPEAKER_13]: All right, well you got a lot of them there.
41:37
[SPEAKER_13]: I'll see you.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Thank you.
41:39
[SPEAKER_07]: There's a lot to unpack.
41:41
[SPEAKER_07]: I appreciate your comments.
41:43
[SPEAKER_07]: I will say I don't personally think a position on council would impact my employment that much.
41:51
[SPEAKER_07]: Again, going off of the residency thing, that's the great thing about me living where I live is I live extremely close to work.
41:57
[SPEAKER_07]: I live extremely close to city hall.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I don't have a close family.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I live on my own, so a lot of my time is time for a professional endeavors in politics and hobbies.
42:11
[SPEAKER_13]: No, I think it could be a good thing.
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[SPEAKER_13]: It certainly being in the school.
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[SPEAKER_13]: It gives you a connection to the families and people and all that stuff.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Everyone knows who I am, trust me.
42:21
[SPEAKER_13]: Okay.
42:22
[SPEAKER_13]: You are quite a swirly school, right?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_13]: They have a pool up there, right?
42:26
[SPEAKER_07]: We do.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_13]: One of many pools here in the city.
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[SPEAKER_13]: We're the pool capable.
42:31
[SPEAKER_13]: All right.
42:32
[SPEAKER_13]: We've got a call here.
42:33
[SPEAKER_13]: Oh, she had other questions.
42:34
[SPEAKER_13]: What was it?
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[SPEAKER_19]: I. Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Go ahead.
42:38
[SPEAKER_19]: Mr. Velasquez, this is Donnie Lee Berger.
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[SPEAKER_19]: Hi, Donnie.
42:41
[SPEAKER_19]: Hi, Donnie.
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[SPEAKER_19]: Good luck, but you're for the second.
42:44
[SPEAKER_19]: You're trying to do that.
42:47
[SPEAKER_19]: My question would be, is back in May.
42:50
[SPEAKER_19]: Was it May when I seen you at the City Council meeting?
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[SPEAKER_06]: I lost track.
42:56
[SPEAKER_06]: It was a while ago.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Go ahead.
42:58
[SPEAKER_19]: I think it was back in May because I was only home for like a month.
43:01
[SPEAKER_19]: But you mentioned to me that come next year, you would not vote to allow the pride flag to be raised.
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[SPEAKER_19]: Are you still saying that today?
43:11
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't recall having this conversation.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm not changing the flag policy.
43:16
[SPEAKER_19]: I really go when I brought in my big sign.
43:20
[SPEAKER_19]: Okay.
43:20
[SPEAKER_19]: And that's the night that you came up to me and you had set that.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Okay, well he doesn't recall that conversation.
43:31
[SPEAKER_07]: I will say though.
43:32
[SPEAKER_13]: Novelty flags is the topic.
43:34
[SPEAKER_07]: I really don't have an issue with novelty flags, honestly.
43:37
[SPEAKER_07]: There's bigger fish to fry in city government right now.
43:39
[SPEAKER_17]: Yeah.
43:41
[SPEAKER_07]: I respectfully disagree.
43:43
[SPEAKER_19]: Mr. Velasquez, you just lied to everybody.
43:46
[SPEAKER_19]: That's not what you told me that night.
43:49
[SPEAKER_07]: Okay.
43:49
[SPEAKER_19]: There was somebody else there.
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[SPEAKER_19]: I'll bring.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Donnie.
43:51
[SPEAKER_07]: All right.
43:52
[SPEAKER_07]: All right.
43:52
[SPEAKER_07]: All right.
43:53
[SPEAKER_07]: You're a word against mine.
43:54
[SPEAKER_07]: Are you really familiar by the way?
43:55
[SPEAKER_07]: Sure.
43:56
[SPEAKER_07]: Sure.
43:56
[SPEAKER_07]: I have you on the phone.
43:59
[SPEAKER_19]: Um, I think it's a little early to say anything.
44:01
[SPEAKER_19]: The campaign for mayor is.
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[SPEAKER_19]: It doesn't start until twenty twenty seven.
44:06
[SPEAKER_07]: So are you a first strong mayor candidate?
44:10
[SPEAKER_13]: No, okay.
44:11
[SPEAKER_07]: All right.
44:12
[SPEAKER_13]: Thanks a lot.
44:13
[SPEAKER_13]: I appreciate it.
44:14
[SPEAKER_13]: I'm the flag policy in general.
44:16
[SPEAKER_13]: That was a big deal for Dr. Kimball.
44:18
[SPEAKER_13]: He was.
44:19
[SPEAKER_13]: Of course he.
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[SPEAKER_13]: He's very liberal.
44:22
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, I come with a Harris sign as long as you.
44:25
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't recall that either.
44:26
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
44:26
[SPEAKER_13]: I wouldn't either.
44:27
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
44:29
[SPEAKER_13]: But the the whole thing about.
44:35
[SPEAKER_13]: Is it a public building that displays just the nation and state flag and city flag if there is one or is it something where you know I can have a New York jet flag up there for Joe name at spurty.
44:47
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm not going to spend too much time on this what I will say is I would prefer that is just the United States flag and the New York state flag and the prisoner of war flag.
44:56
[SPEAKER_07]: But that said, again, we have budget deficits.
44:59
[SPEAKER_07]: We have looming tax increases.
45:01
[SPEAKER_07]: We have, you know, the hydro contract, expiring.
45:04
[SPEAKER_07]: We have a homelessness problem.
45:06
[SPEAKER_07]: We don't think I've done it.
45:08
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm not going to come in and put the flag issue at the forefront of my campaign.
45:13
[SPEAKER_13]: It isn't the way it is now.
45:15
[SPEAKER_13]: If somebody wants to put that, jets flag up there.
45:19
[SPEAKER_13]: I have to approach that.
45:20
[SPEAKER_07]: I have to request it.
45:22
[SPEAKER_13]: And you could all know on it.
45:23
[SPEAKER_07]: You could vote now.
45:24
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, the mayor and Mr. and Councilman shown, they vote no on it for a principal and I respect their vote because again, to be honest, I agree with them.
45:33
[SPEAKER_13]: She's a good mayor.
45:35
[SPEAKER_07]: She's okay.
45:36
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't have a problem with what she's doing.
45:38
[SPEAKER_13]: Mm-hmm.
45:39
[SPEAKER_13]: Some people are critical of her.
45:40
[SPEAKER_07]: Well, it's politics.
45:41
[SPEAKER_07]: You're always going to be critical of the mayor.
45:43
[SPEAKER_13]: Everyone is.
45:44
[SPEAKER_13]: She was absent from the last meeting and conveniently that allowed that resolution to fail that would have granted a waiver of privilege for Harris Beach and would have facilitated a hearing against Cliff Holy.
45:55
[SPEAKER_13]: I know you don't want to talk about the only thing, but are they going to bring that back up again tonight?
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[SPEAKER_07]: I doubt it.
46:02
[SPEAKER_07]: I think it's a moot point.
46:04
[SPEAKER_07]: Honestly, you know, I'm not a fan of the amount of money that was spent.
46:08
[SPEAKER_07]: But we need to, Mr. Olney is a lame duck councilman.
46:12
[SPEAKER_07]: We need to let him sail off into the sunset, come November.
46:15
[SPEAKER_07]: He's running as a writer.
46:16
[SPEAKER_07]: Again, I respect that.
46:18
[SPEAKER_07]: You know, residents should have their choices.
46:22
[SPEAKER_07]: If you support him, you know, again, I respect that.
46:25
[SPEAKER_07]: If I'm elected, I will
46:26
[SPEAKER_07]: You know, stand for you.
46:28
[SPEAKER_07]: I would work for you regardless of if you voted for me or not.
46:32
[SPEAKER_13]: Okay.
46:33
[SPEAKER_13]: Alrighty, uh, seven, five, five, twelve, forty.
46:35
[SPEAKER_13]: Our phone number if you want to give us a call on this beautiful Tuesday here.
46:38
[SPEAKER_13]: Don't forget later in the week.
46:40
[SPEAKER_13]: Doug guys born tomorrow, Peter Monaco on Thursday, um, Shane Garra Brant, um, let's talk about briefly the other candidates.
46:49
[SPEAKER_13]: I know you don't want to, you don't want to poo poo them and I wouldn't expect that of you.
46:52
[SPEAKER_13]: Mr. Garrett Garrett brand professional guy works for Jade Stone Engineering nice family nice all of that stuff of course somehow he's related to Beth Hall I got I've heard that and so anyway He builds himself as sort of the person who will resolve the hydro problem is he I don't
47:16
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't foresee him as the individual to resolve the hydro problem.
47:21
[SPEAKER_07]: He definitely has added knowledge on that specific subject matter compared to me.
47:27
[SPEAKER_07]: But if you look at the field of candidates, everyone brings something to the table.
47:32
[SPEAKER_07]: And again, this is politics as unfortunate as it may be.
47:34
[SPEAKER_07]: A lot of it comes down to personality in forming connections with people.
47:39
[SPEAKER_13]: OK.
47:40
[SPEAKER_13]: All right, what Mr. Monica, now there's the quintessential.
47:43
[SPEAKER_07]: Well, he has institutional knowledge.
47:44
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm not going to disagree with that fact.
47:47
[SPEAKER_13]: School board president at one time.
47:49
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, when I was in school action.
47:50
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
47:52
[SPEAKER_07]: But what I will say is, and this is not a dig at any of the candidates specifically.
47:58
[SPEAKER_07]: This is just a statement in general in politics.
48:01
[SPEAKER_07]: We have a lot of these folks in their sixties and seventies who it feels like they cling to power.
48:06
[SPEAKER_07]: No, absolutely.
48:07
[SPEAKER_07]: It feels like they cling to power.
48:09
[SPEAKER_07]: You know, I saw the article today that Jerry Nadler, a congressman, is finally retiring and said, oh, it's time to, you know, let the younger generation take over.
48:18
[SPEAKER_13]: What I thought he said, which was fascinating, and I admire his canteries, he said, after this Biden thing, his scientific concession that
48:28
[SPEAKER_13]: He wasn't as sharp as a tag.
48:29
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, he wasn't.
48:31
[SPEAKER_07]: The American people were lied to regarding, you know, the former president's mental acuity.
48:37
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
48:38
[SPEAKER_13]: Kamala was one of the lawyers.
48:39
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, absolutely.
48:40
[SPEAKER_13]: He was terrible person.
48:42
[SPEAKER_13]: Okay.
48:45
[SPEAKER_13]: The other candidates, he got Doug Osborne, soft spoken, smart guy.
48:49
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
48:51
[SPEAKER_13]: As run before, seems have an understanding of life and water.
48:56
[SPEAKER_13]: It's
48:58
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, thank you.
48:59
[SPEAKER_13]: I see bring anything to the table.
49:02
[SPEAKER_07]: Again, I can't speak to any of the specific candidates bring to the table.
49:06
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, you look at all of our backgrounds and some of us, myself, Mr. Osborn, public servants, you know, we school teacher, probation, you look at Mr. Monaco.
49:18
[SPEAKER_07]: Again, public one could argue public service, Mr. Garrett, engineer.
49:22
[SPEAKER_07]: Everyone brings something to the table.
49:24
[SPEAKER_07]: It's really a, you know, or am I your cup of tea?
49:28
[SPEAKER_13]: Well, you have become a pretty good politician because you manage to slip in there a comparison between Peter Monaco and the Concherry-Nadler.
49:36
[SPEAKER_13]: So that was a clever, very clever.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_07]: You know, that's a tough one.
52:14
[SPEAKER_07]: I will say speed bumps.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I am in favor of overall as long as they're clearly labeled.
52:21
[SPEAKER_07]: But the issue is the speed limit at Thompson Park is twenty and
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[SPEAKER_07]: face it, we've all spent on occasion.
52:28
[SPEAKER_07]: There's certain places you don't speed.
52:30
[SPEAKER_07]: You don't speed in school zones.
52:32
[SPEAKER_07]: You don't speed at Thompson Park where there's kids and family.
52:35
[SPEAKER_13]: But you don't, that's the reason.
52:36
[SPEAKER_07]: I've had people fly up behind me when I'm going twenty-two.
52:39
[SPEAKER_13]: Every day when you go by the high school and that sign says you're doing twenty-two.
52:43
[SPEAKER_07]: It's terrible.
52:44
[SPEAKER_13]: You don't live up there.
52:45
[SPEAKER_07]: It's terrible.
52:45
[SPEAKER_13]: But I was the one who got those signs put in.
52:48
[SPEAKER_07]: Good.
52:49
[SPEAKER_07]: I commend you for that.
52:50
[SPEAKER_13]: And because I thought it was a way, it, it, what I'm driving down that way, it reminds me.
52:55
[SPEAKER_13]: Oh, I got to slow down.
52:57
[SPEAKER_13]: Whereas, you know, jarring me in speed bump doesn't.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_13]: So I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Speed bumps are maybe in parking lots, but anyway, zoo and golf course, they're different things, but they tend to be talked about the same sentence a lot of times.
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[SPEAKER_13]: How do you feel about them?
53:17
[SPEAKER_07]: You know, from a budgetary standpoint, a few minutes ago I mentioned that there does need to be, we do need to have a serious conversation.
53:26
[SPEAKER_07]: There does need to be some cuts.
53:28
[SPEAKER_07]: I will say the golf course, I'm, we overpaid for the golf course.
53:32
[SPEAKER_07]: It is losing money every single year.
53:34
[SPEAKER_07]: You know, at this point, if we had a majority council that voted to close the golf course, I would go along with that.
53:40
[SPEAKER_13]: Um, because you would be the third vote to close it.
53:43
[SPEAKER_07]: I would.
53:43
[SPEAKER_07]: I would.
53:44
[SPEAKER_13]: Okay.
53:45
[SPEAKER_07]: And here's why, right?
53:46
[SPEAKER_07]: Because I go to the zoo, I understand that the zoo is asking for money that the city does not have.
53:52
[SPEAKER_07]: But with that said, if I had a choice of supporting the zoo or the golf course, you know, at least when I go to the zoo, I see families and I see small kids and I see people enjoying themselves.
54:02
[SPEAKER_07]: I like the golf course.
54:03
[SPEAKER_07]: I've gone to the restaurant.
54:04
[SPEAKER_07]: I've gone golfing up there with friends.
54:06
[SPEAKER_07]: But it's one of those items that we just can't support.
54:10
[SPEAKER_07]: The weather is not good enough to golf more than what three months out of the year.
54:13
[SPEAKER_13]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_07]: At least the zoo, you know, they have fall activities.
54:17
[SPEAKER_07]: They have winter activities.
54:18
[SPEAKER_13]: Well, you've created some controversy here today on a few with issues.
54:22
[SPEAKER_13]: That's one of them.
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[SPEAKER_13]: So we'll see if the mainstream legacy media picks up on that.
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[SPEAKER_13]: I don't know if they will.
54:29
[SPEAKER_13]: But
54:31
[SPEAKER_13]: Today, their big story was Kraft Hines is splitting up the food company.
54:38
[SPEAKER_13]: Because they make Philadelphia cream cheese and olive oil.
54:41
[SPEAKER_13]: But so what?
54:43
[SPEAKER_13]: So what?
54:44
[SPEAKER_13]: All right.
54:46
[SPEAKER_13]: That was Mr. Leavener, walked by, he's the owner.
54:48
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, I met him.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, well, I'm sure I have to say that.
54:52
[SPEAKER_13]: I assume you will participate in any debates if they're scheduled by the various media or other outlets.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Gladly.
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[SPEAKER_13]: OK.
54:59
[SPEAKER_13]: And that'll come next month, probably.
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[SPEAKER_13]: But after noon you're on the air.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Okay.
55:10
[SPEAKER_13]: Let's see, we've got just trying to think of the other issues that are out there.
55:14
[SPEAKER_07]: Well, polls.
55:15
[SPEAKER_07]: You mentioned polls.
55:18
[SPEAKER_07]: So with that said, I spent, and it wasn't necessarily just political, you know, I do like going around the city and interacting with people in general.
55:26
[SPEAKER_07]: I spent a good amount of time at the Flynn poll this summer.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And again, we overpaid for that poll.
55:32
[SPEAKER_07]: There's no doubt about it, but that is a gorgeous poll.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And I'm beyond
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[SPEAKER_07]: you know what was it being used to it was being used um now the days i went on one day and it was packed um i think that's a great location for a pool great neighborhood for a pool and i'm glad that the north side has a pool uh with that said you know i recently i don't know if they want me saying this but that's fine um i actually recently went to some of the school board members and the superintendent
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[SPEAKER_07]: because well water town high has a pool and you know I think it would be great if the school district and the city could work together and you know open the lines of communication and kind of work to mutually benefit you know city residents city voters
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[SPEAKER_07]: And I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Is there any open swimming there at the high school?
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[SPEAKER_07]: There's not.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And that's actually what I approached them about was saying, hey, can the city, you know, the city government, city council, the mayor, and, you know, the school board, and the superintendent, can you guys come together and can we maybe, especially in the winter, you know, when the polls close, can we create some time where maybe on a Saturday, there's some open swim for residents?
56:41
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, especially in the winter.
56:42
[SPEAKER_13]: I mean obviously.
56:42
[SPEAKER_07]: I think that would be a great thing to provide and, you know, that's what it has a wide membership.
56:47
[SPEAKER_13]: the old alterior pool, which is empty.
56:51
[SPEAKER_13]: Take it out.
56:53
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, at this point, yeah.
56:55
[SPEAKER_13]: Okay.
56:55
[SPEAKER_07]: You know, I hear all the time, a city this size, well, a city this size with a declining population in a dwindling tax base.
57:05
[SPEAKER_07]: We can't, in my opinion, justify and support three pools.
57:08
[SPEAKER_13]: Okay.
57:10
[SPEAKER_13]: All righty, good afternoon here on the air.
57:14
[SPEAKER_18]: Hey, I want to commend you.
57:16
[SPEAKER_18]: It seems as though most people that are in the education industry are very far-lived and seem to be a little more centered.
57:24
[SPEAKER_18]: So I appreciate that fact.
57:26
[SPEAKER_18]: What are your views on someone's suing the city such as Cliff only or the dog park guy?
57:31
[SPEAKER_18]: Doesn't that get a little old?
57:33
[SPEAKER_18]: How are we going to settle that and just make these things up?
57:36
[SPEAKER_07]: Well, actually, that's a good point.
57:39
[SPEAKER_07]: It's very unfortunate, but it's unfortunate, the fact that we live in a very litigious society.
57:46
[SPEAKER_07]: So you're always going to have that.
57:47
[SPEAKER_07]: There's really no way of dis waiting someone from filing a lawsuit.
57:52
[SPEAKER_07]: The best thing we can do is we can make sure that we are doing what we can to avoid it in the first place.
58:01
[SPEAKER_07]: It's tough.
58:01
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, Mr. Olney has threatened lawsuits.
58:04
[SPEAKER_07]: Sure.
58:04
[SPEAKER_07]: That's definitely.
58:05
[SPEAKER_07]: That's his progative.
58:06
[SPEAKER_07]: He is absolutely allowed to do that.
58:08
[SPEAKER_13]: I wanted to mention one thing because you mentioned it to me on that issue of mayoral governance.
58:12
[SPEAKER_13]: You advanced that idea on your Facebook page with a poll.
58:15
[SPEAKER_13]: I did.
58:16
[SPEAKER_13]: And people were able to vote in it.
58:18
[SPEAKER_13]: And the names of people, yes, and no popped up and who voted.
58:22
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, who voted to keep me city manager?
58:25
[SPEAKER_07]: uh... uh... the city manager himself which again it's been a title but it's kind of like the news junkie polls which i find very informative by the way uh... love news junkie because any time anything's going on in town you got a news junkie and you can figure it out very quickly but my face but poll with similar to that poll there's no geophants there's no way of you know making sure it's a city resident voting in it
58:50
[SPEAKER_07]: So it was difficult, but I saw the names of some city employees.
58:53
[SPEAKER_13]: A lot of the out of town employees were willing to keep the present system.
58:56
[SPEAKER_13]: I thought that was interesting.
58:57
[SPEAKER_13]: Well, they won't be voting on November.
58:59
[SPEAKER_13]: What is it?
59:00
[SPEAKER_13]: Fifth fourth.
59:03
[SPEAKER_13]: Uh-oh.
59:03
[SPEAKER_13]: Oh, look, look behind here, right there.
59:05
[SPEAKER_13]: One, two, three, four.
59:08
[SPEAKER_06]: November four.
59:08
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, there.
59:09
[SPEAKER_13]: Conveniently, we had a calendar from Anderson equipment that Gary gave us.
59:14
[SPEAKER_13]: So that was very nice.
59:16
[SPEAKER_13]: Well, thank you, candidate.
59:17
[SPEAKER_13]: Did you have a website or a way of contact?
59:19
[SPEAKER_07]: I have a Facebook page.
59:20
[SPEAKER_07]: The last was for Watertown City Council.
59:23
[SPEAKER_07]: I also, on my Facebook page, I have a very simple Google form that you can request a sign, or you can just send me a direct message.
59:30
[SPEAKER_13]: OK.
59:31
[SPEAKER_13]: Sounds good.
59:31
[SPEAKER_13]: Well, thank you, and good luck, Ian.
59:33
[SPEAKER_13]: We'll be talking to the other candidates starting tomorrow.
59:36
[SPEAKER_13]: Doug Osborne is in.
59:37
[SPEAKER_13]: And he has to say, Peter Monaco on Thursday and Shane Garibrand rounds out the field next Tuesday.
59:44
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[SPEAKER_13]: All righty, Glenn Curry in at five.
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