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Jags A.M. Podcast Ep. 177 | What Went Wrong in Week 6, Expectations for London · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Seven.
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Speaker 2: Here Bran Sexton and John Oger as we go over
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Speaker 2: Sunday game against the Seahawks. Jaguars couldn't quite pull it out.
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Speaker 2: A tough day all around. Let's go over our big
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Speaker 2: Government Employees Health Association. Big thing number one is it
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Speaker 2: was a big play day. Explosives we saw from the
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Speaker 2: Seahawks and also a ton from the Seahawks pass rush.
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Speaker 2: William Cohen talked a little bit about what the other
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Speaker 2: team did well.
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Speaker 3: It just felt weird. They hit enough explosives and we
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Speaker 3: did it. That's the reality is. We didn't get after
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Speaker 3: their quarterback. They got after ours. They hit a couple
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Speaker 3: big plays in the past game and we did not.
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Speaker 3: So I don't think either team probably ran it as
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Speaker 3: well as we've been, you know, running the football. We
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Speaker 3: did come out with a mindset of us want to
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Speaker 3: throw the ball, but we've got to get after their
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Speaker 3: quarterback more as they got after ours.
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Speaker 2: Brian, We've been talking for a couple of weeks hoping
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Speaker 2: to see the explosives for the Jaguars offense. We saw
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Speaker 2: it with the Seahawks offense yesterday.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Listen, I thought from the Jaguars offensive perspective, they
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Speaker 4: would be able to grab those explosives. Devin Witherspoon, they're
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Speaker 4: all pro corner, didn't play. Julian Love, one of the
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Speaker 4: better safeties in the NFC, didn't play. They were down
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Speaker 4: in total three starters in the secondary, and you felt
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Speaker 4: like the Jaguars offensive line, which had allowed only seven
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Speaker 4: sacks all season, would hold up well enough for Trevor
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Speaker 4: Lawrence to be able to make some plays down the field.
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Speaker 4: They didn't, and obviously the Jaguars didn't get open down
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Speaker 4: the field nearly enough to help their quarterback. It was
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Speaker 4: a frustrating day because some of the things that you
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Speaker 4: thought you knew about this team didn't come to pass.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, frustrating is the right war.
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Speaker 6: I mean, the Jaguars knew they were gonna have to throw,
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Speaker 6: they wanted to throw, and they did have time to throw,
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Speaker 6: and then when they did have time to throw, there
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Speaker 6: weren't guys.
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Speaker 5: Open or there are a couple of misses.
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Speaker 6: So look, this game is not a tragedy, but it
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Speaker 6: does show some things that have to be addressed moving
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Speaker 6: forward as a bad matchup form in retrospect. And they
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Speaker 6: still almost had a chance at the end, but yeah,
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Speaker 6: it was. It was a frustrating debt.
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Speaker 4: Well, not to move too far ahead, but I mean, John,
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Speaker 4: you have to get these matchups fixed because the Rams
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Speaker 4: are I think better than this team. They're better pass rushers.
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Speaker 4: They're going to create more problems for your quarterback. That's
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Speaker 4: the part. Going to London makes a lot of sense.
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Speaker 7: This week. You got to spend some time focused and
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Speaker 7: tighten it down.
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Speaker 2: Some other self inflicted wounds we saw yesterday are big thing.
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Speaker 2: Number two penalty problem. We've been seeing penalties been an
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Speaker 2: issue recurring different weeks, and it definitely was yesterday. Trevor
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Speaker 2: Lawrence talked a little bit about ownership and each individual
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Speaker 2: player taking ownership of their mistakes.
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Speaker 8: Everyone taken ownership of their part of it. Look at
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Speaker 8: today and say what if what can I do to
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Speaker 8: improve this? How can I help you guy next to
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Speaker 8: me or yourself or whatever. I think it's more just
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Speaker 8: focusing on what you can do as an individual, and
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Speaker 8: I think that's where some of the things might be
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Speaker 8: more of just like a lapse and focus at a
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Speaker 8: certain time that are little penalties like the.
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Speaker 7: Off sides or whatever it is.
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Speaker 8: It's just you know that consistent focus throughout the game
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Speaker 8: to where these things don't show up.
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Speaker 2: John, once again, we're in double digit penalties for this team.
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Speaker 2: At first we thought maybe getting used to the offense
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Speaker 2: now but still having some of the same issues.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, they talked afterward about the penalties taking away big plays,
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Speaker 6: and that didn't hurt them, I think quite as much
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Speaker 6: as they thought in the aftermath. It took away the
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Speaker 6: Brian Thomas junior touchdown, but they got to touchdown that drive.
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Speaker 6: But I thought, in looking back at it, where it
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Speaker 6: really hurt Brian was it seemed like every drive you
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Speaker 6: were second and thirteen and second and fifteen, and every
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Speaker 6: penalty created at least a ten yard situation against a
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Speaker 6: pass rush, and when you weren't running the ball anyway.
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Speaker 6: I just felt like those penalties made it so every
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Speaker 6: time you dropped back the Seahawks were in third and
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Speaker 6: go get.
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Speaker 7: Them, you played right into their hands.
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Speaker 4: It seems as if the penalties were really poorly timed.
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Speaker 4: And again I'm not talking about the Brian Thomas Travis Hunter,
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Speaker 4: how about Hunter longs holding penalty on a first down.
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Speaker 4: I mean, they were just there were enough of them
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Speaker 4: that made you say, are you are you gonna get
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Speaker 4: this thing tightened down today?
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Speaker 7: What were there twelve flags thrown against the Jaguars? Ten
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Speaker 7: of them were accepted.
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Speaker 4: How about you get a good return out to the
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Speaker 4: thirty three yard line and then Rayon Lane gets hit
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Speaker 4: with a personal foul.
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Speaker 7: And you go back to the eighteen.
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Speaker 4: I mean, just they just never were able to help themselves.
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Speaker 4: I think that's the message that I left the stadium with,
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Speaker 4: is this team couldn't help itself.
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Speaker 7: It just kept hurting itself all day.
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Speaker 2: Final big thing today to be six seven. We talked
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Speaker 2: a little bit about the O line problems, but how
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Speaker 2: about this. Heading into the game, Trevor Lawrence had been
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Speaker 2: sacked six times and he got sacked seven times in
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Speaker 2: the singular game against the Seahawks, Brian, do we have
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Speaker 2: an offense line problem? Obviously, center Robert Hainsey was injured,
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Speaker 2: he was not in. Joona Monheim was in. But we've
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Speaker 2: seen changes elsewhere on the line. Is it just that
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Speaker 2: or the Seahawks that good?
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Speaker 4: Well, listen, I think Seattle's very good. But DeMarcus Lawrence
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Speaker 4: is thirty three years old and he had two and
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Speaker 4: a half sacks his first two and a half of
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Speaker 4: the year.
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Speaker 7: That's a Jaguars problem.
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Speaker 4: Not having Hainsey probably kept some things from being settled
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Speaker 4: before the snap of the ball. A good center gets
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Speaker 4: everyone lined up and sees everything in front of him,
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Speaker 4: and not having Breton Strange, who's a big part of
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Speaker 4: what they do up front. Also, those two things hurt
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Speaker 4: them without a doubt. But the Jaguars should be better
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Speaker 4: than that. We just talked about how they're behind the
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Speaker 4: chains a lot, and that played right into the Seattle Seahawks' hands.
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Speaker 4: Buckle up because Jared Versu and Bryce Young are going
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Speaker 4: to be coming off the end this week. Brian Young
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Speaker 4: rather in London, and it's not going to get any easier.
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Speaker 4: They better figure some things out this week.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I hope if in London you can run a
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Speaker 6: little better and offset some of that. But look, I
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Speaker 6: don't want to overreact, because there's always a tendency after
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Speaker 6: a game to forget that it's one to seventeen and
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Speaker 6: they have been a good offensive line that what happened
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Speaker 6: yesterday doesn't negate any of that. But you also do
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Speaker 6: not want to ignore and think, oh, we're going to
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Speaker 6: be fine.
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Speaker 5: It wasn't just seven sacks.
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Speaker 6: It was seeming somebody counted twenty five pressures that didn't
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Speaker 6: feel off.
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Speaker 7: I mean seventeen quarterback hits.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, so it's again they've played too well coming in
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Speaker 6: to say that there has to be major wholesale changes.
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Speaker 6: But this can't be what this team is or else.
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Speaker 6: Obviously they're not going anywhere.
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Speaker 2: Definitely some stuff to look at. Stay with the cerro
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Speaker 2: on JAGXAM coming up after the break. We'll look at
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Speaker 2: the tape from yesterday's game.
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Speaker 3: We come out, we don't really do much offense early on,
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Speaker 3: we score and miss the extra points. So it's like
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Speaker 3: those deflating moments. I think that's probably the theme of
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Speaker 3: today was positive, then something negative would occur and kind
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Speaker 3: of take the wind out of our sales. You know,
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Speaker 3: I thought it was a very honest locker room in
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Speaker 3: there in terms of understanding guys that we will not
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Speaker 3: beat good quality teams like this. Whether you're home on
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Speaker 3: the road in London on the West Coast doesn't matter.
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Speaker 3: If we continue to hurt ourselves and have these self
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Speaker 3: inflicted wounds, that ultimately is not me.
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Speaker 2: I always trusted I'm calling to be honest and give
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Speaker 2: you an honest review of what he thinks about the situation.
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Speaker 4: I just he's terrific, and I hope that people can
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Speaker 4: understand to have a coach like that who is so
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Speaker 4: transparent with you.
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Speaker 7: They don't.
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Speaker 4: He plays no games at the podium, which is different
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Speaker 4: from a lot of football coaches.
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Speaker 7: I really like him.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, And beyond that part of it, he also very
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Speaker 6: honestly assesses and doesn't let the team sort of make excuse.
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Speaker 6: I mean, he sees the game for what it is,
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Speaker 6: and I've been around coaches who sort of see the
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Speaker 6: game through different lenses. He seems to see it through
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Speaker 6: a very honest lens, and he gives you a chance to,
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Speaker 6: I think, for the team and the coaches to know
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Speaker 6: what's going on and fix it more realistically than if
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Speaker 6: you're not seeing it through that lens.
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Speaker 7: You know.
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Speaker 4: The other thing kay is if people have not seen
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Speaker 4: his post game locker room, he's so calm and composed.
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Speaker 4: He doesn't let the emotion overwhelm him sit in the
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Speaker 4: locker room, and he doesn't let the emotion speak in
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Speaker 4: front of the media. He's the right guy to lead
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Speaker 4: this team through this difficult week.
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Speaker 2: Yes, and sometimes that's hard to do right after a game.
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Speaker 2: I think we all can admit we get a little
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Speaker 2: emotional at times, so good to see that from your head, coach.
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Speaker 2: Let's take a look at some of the highlights. Things
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Speaker 2: are a really frustrating early, not a lot of offense on
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Speaker 2: either side to get things going. But we did see
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Speaker 2: BTJ get involved a little bit earlier in this game,
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Speaker 2: which was nice to see. And also Travis Hunter get
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Speaker 2: involved in the passing game. So let's take a look
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Speaker 2: at this because we've been talking for weeks. Obviously wanted
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Speaker 2: to get Brian Tooms Junior. He had I think eight
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Speaker 2: catches for ninety yards on the day, and obviously this
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Speaker 2: was a decent drive where they set some things up.
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Speaker 2: We love to see Travis Hunter juken out defenders, always enjoyable.
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Speaker 2: And then Brent Times Junior getting his first receiving touchdown
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Speaker 2: of the season. He got that run play touchdown earlier
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Speaker 2: on in the year, but finally feels like he's getting
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Speaker 2: going a little bit.
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Speaker 4: Listen, you have to keep going back to him, and
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Speaker 4: I know people are looking at the numbers with Travis
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Speaker 4: Hunter today and.
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Speaker 7: Saying, how do you get the ball to him more?
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Speaker 4: The jag Wars passing attack, John feels like it will
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Speaker 4: go through these two guys, and if the quarterback is
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Speaker 4: going to have a really good season, he's going to
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Speaker 4: have to have a really good relationship with twelve and seven.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 6: I thought Brian Thomas Junior in the last couple of
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Speaker 6: weeks has taken some real steps to getting back to
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Speaker 6: where he was. I thought there were a couple yesterday
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Speaker 6: that he would probably like to have back as well.
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Speaker 6: But the steps are going in the right direction. And look,
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Speaker 6: the challenge in this is getting Travis Hunter the ball
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Speaker 6: in situations where he can do what he did.
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Speaker 5: What he did on that one play was spectacular.
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Speaker 6: You need that four or five times to have it
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Speaker 6: feel like a functioning part of the offense rather than
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Speaker 6: an outlier. Right now, Travis's still feel like outliers and
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Speaker 6: I think the coaching staff would love to get that more. Okay,
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Speaker 6: we've got four or five foundation pieces that we do well.
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Speaker 6: I think you need to get him in a situation
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Speaker 6: where he's more of a foundation piece.
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Speaker 2: To take a look at Jaxon Smith and Jigba's touchdown,
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Speaker 2: because I was very unwarm welcome. I think I wrote
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Speaker 2: for you, John to the new cornerback, Greg Newsom, junior.
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Speaker 2: I think his first play into the game at this point,
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Speaker 2: and I don't know what the defense was doing. I
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Speaker 2: don't know if he thought he had some safety help.
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Speaker 2: And I know there's a miscommunication. Obviously he went about one
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Speaker 2: and a half practices, so I'm going to assume maybe
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Speaker 2: you need to know where you need to be on what.
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Speaker 2: But this is one of the explosives we talked about
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Speaker 2: them connecting on and well, one play, one touchdown that
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Speaker 2: hurts you.
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Speaker 6: It's sometimes in this league it's about who has the
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Speaker 6: best players. And the Seahggs had the best wide receiver
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Speaker 6: in the game yesterday and no college I mean not
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Speaker 6: a not going to be TJ.
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Speaker 5: But this kid right now is one of the best.
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Speaker 6: Two or three receivers and he you know, I'm going
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Speaker 6: to assume that Greg k Newsom Junior is better than
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Speaker 6: that one played death Knight of career make. But that
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Speaker 6: was in a twenty twelve game when everything felt difficult.
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Speaker 6: As Liam said, exposes made the difference. It was probably
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Speaker 6: the play of the game. I mean set up.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it looked like he stumbled a bit. He was
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Speaker 4: there and then stumbled and I don't know why. I
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Speaker 4: don't know maybe he was thinking do he was supposed
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Speaker 4: to be detail me.
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Speaker 2: It looked like he was generally so following him and
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Speaker 2: then kind of looked to see if he had help
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Speaker 2: with the safety and then that's where the step came in.
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Speaker 4: It's not surprising that a guy would make a mistake
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Speaker 4: when he was here for a practice and half.
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Speaker 2: As you mentioned, Yeah, but something to keep an eye
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Speaker 2: on going forward. Now another thing maybe to keep an
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Speaker 2: eye on going forward. Kim Little missed an extra point yesterday,
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Speaker 2: misses this field goal and at it's a lot of
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Speaker 2: decisions going down later in the game when you decide
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Speaker 2: to go for two point conversion. Like we talk about
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Speaker 2: special teams, but small special team's mistakes can lead to
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Speaker 2: bigger problems pre you team.
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Speaker 6: Well, that game early yesterday was very similar to the
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Speaker 6: Texans game where you know, some games in this in
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Speaker 6: the NFL now are momentum games would be side in
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Speaker 6: the second half.
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Speaker 5: This was one where every drive mattered.
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Speaker 6: I thought a huge play early was when they got
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Speaker 6: out of their own goal line early with the Rayon
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Speaker 6: lane play where he changed field position. It felt like
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Speaker 6: a game where those kind of plays were going to matter.
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Speaker 6: In those kind of games you give away four points.
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Speaker 6: The difference between trailing by seven and three at halftime,
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Speaker 6: it was mammoth. And I am a little worried about
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Speaker 6: Cambe Little because he's missed a couple in the last
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Speaker 6: couple of weeks. And I think he would tell you
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Speaker 6: fifty yard field goals in this league. Now you gotta
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Speaker 6: make him so. I think he's gonna be fine, but
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Speaker 6: he's got to show he's fine.
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Speaker 4: They got to give special teams scenario we haven't focused
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Speaker 4: on because there's been enough other issues. But Logan Cook,
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Speaker 4: you know, he had a beautiful punt the one that
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Speaker 4: Rayon Lane you just mentioned, and he had one late
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Speaker 4: in the ball game that pinned the Seahawks at their
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Speaker 4: own seven.
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Speaker 7: But you know, when he's punting the.
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Speaker 4: Ball from around the forty yard line on his side
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Speaker 4: of midfield, you expect that pooch punt to go down
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Speaker 4: inside the ten yard line. That's why he's a Pro
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Speaker 4: Bowl punter. He's missed several of those in recent weeks.
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Speaker 4: We heard earlier the head coach talked about the ups
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Speaker 4: and the downs, and the ups and the downs special
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Speaker 4: teams last year was that stable force for this football team,
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Speaker 4: that one thing you could count on. They have not
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Speaker 4: been through the first couple of weeks of the season.
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Speaker 4: You have got to get that part of the game,
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Speaker 4: that phase of the game back to playing consistently because
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Speaker 4: those are good players that you need to make big plays.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, they were big time and against Kansas City. I
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Speaker 6: don't want to sell him short because they've had some moments, Brian,
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Speaker 6: but the mysted kit, yeah, I mean it's the special
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Speaker 6: assistance have had their moments they like back.
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Speaker 2: Take a look at this Cooper cuts Cooper Cup touchdown.
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Speaker 2: He had a big catch to gain get a first
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Speaker 2: down earlier on in the drive and the defense. I
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Speaker 2: know there's some secondary changes, but it felt a little
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Speaker 2: disjointed at times. And maybe that's because they didn't have
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Speaker 2: a takeaway. But even here, Jordan Lewis doesn't get hit
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Speaker 2: his head around, which we never see from him. So
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Speaker 2: it just I credit to the Seahawks offense for setting
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Speaker 2: some good plays up. But that's tough.
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Speaker 4: This is the first drive of the third quarter and
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Speaker 4: it just felt like they came out of the locker
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Speaker 4: room on their heels.
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Speaker 2: Now what you want to see for.
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Speaker 6: It was a really really good throw in. Cooper Cup
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Speaker 6: is a very precise receiver. Jordan Lewis is a high
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Speaker 6: end player. I think he got beat by a high
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Speaker 6: end play here, but again a game of moments, and
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Speaker 6: the Seahawks made three or four big plays that the
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Speaker 6: Jaguars couldn't match, and you know in in games like that,
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Speaker 6: that's what decides him.
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Speaker 2: Let's take a look at the second touchdown drive and
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Speaker 2: Trevor converting on a fourth down earlier in that possession,
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Speaker 2: because I was watching this kind of go down and
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Speaker 2: you're like, oh no, it kind of felt like one
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Speaker 2: of those I'm going to throw across the field and
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Speaker 2: intercepted pick six, but he connected Hunter long, So I
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Speaker 2: give credit where credit is due, because I wasn't quite
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Speaker 2: sure if that was going.
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Speaker 4: I tried to tell some people in the radio last
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Speaker 4: night and then this morning, you know, walking the dog
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Speaker 4: in my neighborhood.
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Speaker 7: He didn't play as bad as people. What a point, right,
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Speaker 7: He didn't throw interceptions.
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Speaker 4: He didn't fumble the ball, and then he makes that
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Speaker 4: throw where he's rolling to his right, and even that
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Speaker 4: one there where he's stepping up into the pocket. He's
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Speaker 4: capable of playing at a higher level and they're going
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Speaker 4: to need him. John to make these kinds of plays
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Speaker 4: on Sunday against the Rams and going forward. These are
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Speaker 4: the kind of plays where the quarterback elevates his team.
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Speaker 4: That's a big fourth down.
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Speaker 6: I thought there was a little in the postgame criticism
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Speaker 6: of Trevor. I thought there was a little preconception, if
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Speaker 6: you will, of people assuming, oh, he's playing bad. You know,
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Speaker 6: I haven't really had a chance to look and see
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Speaker 6: what was opened downfield, and some of the hold the
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Speaker 6: ball plays. Sometimes when a quarterback holds the ball, fans
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Speaker 6: get mad at him, and if he had thrown the ball,
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Speaker 6: it's a pick and then they get really mad. So
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Speaker 6: the numbers and the moments suggest that he was okay.
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Speaker 6: I think what people are waiting for and we haven't
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Speaker 6: seen yet is the lift the team in the passing
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Speaker 6: game moment that we just haven't seen and.
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Speaker 7: I'm waiting. Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Well, that fourth down throw back across the field, dangerous
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Speaker 4: as it may be, felt like it was the cusp
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Speaker 4: of some of those When you pay a guy and
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Speaker 4: here's your franchise quarterback, it's fair to expect him to
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Speaker 4: make those kinds of plays.
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Speaker 7: They're going to need him.
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Speaker 2: Oh, there's lots of expectations and they are definitely going
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Speaker 2: to need them. Stay with us. We'll give you our
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Speaker 1: That's our lifeblood. I mean, we need turnovers. We need
17:03
Speaker 1: turnovers to win games. And I honestly feel like we
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Speaker 1: could have got a few turnovers and you know, get
17:08
Speaker 1: the football back to the offense and you know advantageous
17:11
Speaker 1: you know positions. But that didn't happen. But like I said,
17:14
Speaker 1: guys fought, we fought back. It's just wasn't good enough.
17:18
Speaker 2: Jeoran Lewis one of your captains talking about not getting
17:22
Speaker 2: any takeaways for the first game this season against the Seahawks,
17:24
Speaker 2: and I'm going to go first day with my hot
17:26
Speaker 2: take as it kind of leads right into that. So
17:28
Speaker 2: mine was I feel a strength was masking up some
17:31
Speaker 2: of the weaknesses on defense. Now by no means so
17:33
Speaker 2: I think this is a weak defense, But I think
17:35
Speaker 2: when you get takeaways that can erase a lot of
17:37
Speaker 2: other issues that may be sprouting up at times on defense.
17:41
Speaker 2: If they're allowing big players, but then you get a takeaway,
17:43
Speaker 2: doesn't really matter like when the Chiefs are knocking on
17:45
Speaker 2: the door about to score, but Devin Lloyd takes it
17:47
Speaker 2: back nine nine yards the other way, you don't notice
17:49
Speaker 2: as much about what was allowed on the drive. So
17:51
Speaker 2: I think for the defense, just focusing in on that communication,
17:54
Speaker 2: especially now on the back end with some new players
17:56
Speaker 2: out there in terms of the secondary, is important for
17:59
Speaker 2: them week. Also, we didn't see Devin Lloyd was on
18:02
Speaker 2: and off the field during that game. We saw his
18:03
Speaker 2: presence was missed out there. So just increasing that communication,
18:07
Speaker 2: getting better upfront as well, getting more pressure against the quarterback.
18:11
Speaker 2: I know Treyvon Walker's out there with a club, but
18:13
Speaker 2: not let yes hang your hat on takeaways. That is
18:16
Speaker 2: always excellent to have, but kind of getting down to
18:18
Speaker 2: the fundamentals again, I think is important and I think you.
18:20
Speaker 4: Could expand that to include the offense too. When the
18:23
Speaker 4: defense grabs fourteen takeaways in five games, it overcomes a
18:28
Speaker 4: lot of offensive mistakes, and we certainly saw that the
18:31
Speaker 4: takeaways we're a huge factor. You better get some this
18:34
Speaker 4: week because the Rams are an excellent football team.
18:36
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think what bodes well in this conversation is
18:40
Speaker 6: the fact that they stopped the run, so they're continuing
18:43
Speaker 6: to have that as a strength, and you've got to
18:45
Speaker 6: have that defensively. Williams said it after the game. You
18:49
Speaker 6: have to pressure the quarterback on the opposing team usually
18:54
Speaker 6: over seventeen games, if you're not pressuring the quarterback consistently,
18:58
Speaker 6: you're not going to get a league leading level of takeaways.
19:02
Speaker 2: Our John, let's get your hot take force today.
19:05
Speaker 5: You know, time to tighten up. And it feels sort
19:08
Speaker 5: of obvious.
19:08
Speaker 6: It's probably been a theme of the show, but they've
19:11
Speaker 6: sort of been talking about it all year. There was
19:13
Speaker 6: an urgency when Liam talked about it. But the ten penalties,
19:18
Speaker 6: a couple of key drops, four points left on the
19:21
Speaker 6: field with a kicker. This is a one score, small
19:27
Speaker 6: points league, and when you give away five, six, seven points,
19:34
Speaker 6: the other team doesn't want to give those back and
19:37
Speaker 6: they didn't.
19:38
Speaker 7: So get right.
19:38
Speaker 6: So that's you got to tighten it up. And it's
19:41
Speaker 6: been a theme what since March Liam's he feels like
19:46
Speaker 6: a broken record on that one, and I'm not going
19:48
Speaker 6: to you know, I'm sure he feels like a broken record.
19:51
Speaker 6: You can't beat good teams given away situations.
19:54
Speaker 4: Well, if we go back to the preseason, they had
19:57
Speaker 4: a poor outing on the practice field and in a game,
20:01
Speaker 4: and the very next day he just kept hammering away.
20:04
Speaker 4: They lined up, they practiced lining up. You don't have
20:07
Speaker 4: a lot of time to do that kind of stuff
20:09
Speaker 4: at this time of the year. But he stood at
20:11
Speaker 4: the podium yesterday John and said.
20:12
Speaker 7: This is on me.
20:13
Speaker 4: Oh, I got the distinctive impression that he's going to
20:16
Speaker 4: fix it.
20:17
Speaker 2: If it's gone on me, we'll ask you fix Rian.
20:20
Speaker 2: What's your hot take for us?
20:21
Speaker 4: All right, so I'm going not ready for primetime obviously,
20:23
Speaker 4: John and Ky they won the primetime game against Kansas City,
20:26
Speaker 4: but the way they came out yesterday felt like there
20:29
Speaker 4: was some hangover. Maybe it was the short week, Maybe
20:32
Speaker 4: they couldn't handle the prosperity. You know, Liam talks all
20:35
Speaker 4: the time about handling adversity, but this team has struggled
20:38
Speaker 4: at times.
20:38
Speaker 7: To handle the prosperity when it comes its way.
20:41
Speaker 4: And look, you've got a primetime game essentially coming up
20:44
Speaker 4: Sunday at Wembley, because you're the only game in that
20:47
Speaker 4: nine to thirty am spot.
20:48
Speaker 7: So follow me here. That was a primetime game yesterday.
20:52
Speaker 4: You had something to prove that you could handle playing
20:55
Speaker 4: on Monday and beating a good team, and then beating
20:58
Speaker 4: a good team at home on sun Day and go
21:00
Speaker 4: to London, and they just they weren't ready for yesterday.
21:03
Speaker 4: And I watched practice lunch. We get it looked like
21:05
Speaker 4: they had good on practice field, right, it looked. Don't
21:08
Speaker 4: how the meeting rooms went, but they weren't ready when
21:11
Speaker 4: the game started. You know, the quarterback comes out and
21:14
Speaker 4: makes the same kind of silly mistake first and ten
21:17
Speaker 4: and he takes a two yard sack. Again it's not huge,
21:21
Speaker 4: but throw the ball away. Don't give up two yards
21:23
Speaker 4: because two or four or five they all kind of
21:25
Speaker 4: add up. So it just they got off to a
21:27
Speaker 4: bad start. It felt like they couldn't handle the prosperity.
21:29
Speaker 4: You got primetime Sunday against the La Rams. Better be
21:32
Speaker 4: ready this week.
21:33
Speaker 5: Yeah, there are.
21:35
Speaker 6: There are tricky parts of every NFL schedule, and yesterday
21:38
Speaker 6: was a tricky part that really really good teams. I
21:42
Speaker 6: said before the game, if they win this game, effect,
21:44
Speaker 6: they're really good, because that was a difficult six days
21:47
Speaker 6: after London next, nobody thinks about the Seahawks except for
21:51
Speaker 6: the fact that they always beat people. So that felt
21:55
Speaker 6: to me like they'd come out and beat a good
21:58
Speaker 6: veteran team, and I felt like, Okay, there a team
22:00
Speaker 6: that can navigate this. They're not a team that can
22:02
Speaker 6: navigate that yet.
22:03
Speaker 4: If you go and beat the Rams, right, and that's
22:06
Speaker 4: a tall order, But if you go beat the Rams,
22:08
Speaker 4: will you will you be.
22:09
Speaker 7: Able to say they were a good team.
22:11
Speaker 5: I think they're good.
22:12
Speaker 7: I mean, I'm sorry, but we think the.
22:13
Speaker 5: Rams are a good team. I think the day Wars
22:16
Speaker 5: are good.
22:16
Speaker 6: There's a difference between good and a team that can
22:19
Speaker 6: go reel off twelve and get into situations where they're
22:22
Speaker 6: in good shape for the playoffs.
22:23
Speaker 5: I don't think they're twelve win team.
22:24
Speaker 7: I didn't ask that the right way.
22:25
Speaker 4: You were talking about how if you come off Kansas
22:28
Speaker 4: City and beat Seattle you would put them in a
22:31
Speaker 4: maybe an upper restaurant from where they might sit in
22:33
Speaker 4: your mind today. If you come off the loss to
22:36
Speaker 4: Seattle and you go and beat the Rams in Wembley,
22:39
Speaker 4: does it put them up there or does it just
22:41
Speaker 4: solidify that they're Okay?
22:44
Speaker 5: I think they're a ten win team, and so uh,
22:50
Speaker 5: it'd be better than losing.
22:51
Speaker 7: Be a nicer flight home, for sure.
22:53
Speaker 2: Winning better than losing.
22:54
Speaker 7: Way you get down. We should write down in the
22:56
Speaker 7: studio here somewhere say us.
22:58
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23:15
Speaker 3: And make sure we're in alignment with being on the
23:19
Speaker 3: point precision operation in all three phases. That's what I'm
23:26
Speaker 3: asking and that's where we got to go.
23:28
Speaker 7: Take the next deck, guys, because that.
23:30
Speaker 5: Is what's holding us back.
23:32
Speaker 2: Man.
23:32
Speaker 3: We have got by and we've won some of these
23:35
Speaker 3: games because of this.
23:38
Speaker 7: Right a lot.
23:39
Speaker 3: We made a lot of great places, but because we
23:41
Speaker 3: got hard, because we played but in times where you
23:45
Speaker 3: got to go execute and not hurt ourselves.
23:48
Speaker 7: Man, that showed up to you.
23:50
Speaker 2: That's just the reality.
23:51
Speaker 7: That's the reality.
23:54
Speaker 2: It's Jaguars locker room post a loss of Seattle Seahawks.
23:58
Speaker 2: We saw them do this after the Bengals game as well,
24:00
Speaker 2: some really cool access. We always kind of hear from
24:03
Speaker 2: them after the win, but now we're hearing from them
24:04
Speaker 2: after the lawsuits too.
24:05
Speaker 4: You know Kai the thirty one years of doing this,
24:07
Speaker 4: I don't remember. First of all, not every coach would
24:09
Speaker 4: let us come in after a win. Let want a
24:11
Speaker 4: loss and John, I mean, cameras are sure, they're everywhere now,
24:15
Speaker 4: so maybe people take for granted to just see things
24:18
Speaker 4: on video. But that's remarkable that he would let you
24:21
Speaker 4: in in a very private, frustrating moment to hear what
24:25
Speaker 4: he's saying to his football team. It may become commonplace
24:27
Speaker 4: in years to come with younger coaches who were used
24:30
Speaker 4: to it, but for right now, you're right guy.
24:32
Speaker 7: It's incredible access.
24:33
Speaker 6: Yeah, and that being said to say yes, you're right.
24:37
Speaker 6: And I think it does show people who are watching
24:40
Speaker 6: this and the hardcore people watching this that what he's
24:43
Speaker 6: saying publicly publicly is real. So far, they've won because
24:48
Speaker 6: of heart, and the execution has to get better. It's
24:51
Speaker 6: shows some insight into how he coaches. So what we
24:54
Speaker 6: referenced earlier, there's no bs and no frills, right, it's
24:59
Speaker 6: this is what we get to do and here's our expectation.
25:03
Speaker 6: We all got to go do it. And so yeah,
25:06
Speaker 6: it's impressive. He's impressive and I feel good about it
25:08
Speaker 6: going forward, all right, here's the deal.
25:10
Speaker 2: We're heading to London. As we mentioned, the team's packing
25:13
Speaker 2: up going to head out on Monday. We will be
25:15
Speaker 2: back here on jagsam on a Wednesday and Thursday, but
25:18
Speaker 2: we'll be coming to you from the Grove, the resort
25:21
Speaker 2: we stay at in London for the game as the
25:22
Speaker 2: Jaguars get prepared to take on the Rams. So we
25:25
Speaker 2: will see you later this week from London with Jagsam.