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- 0:00Speaker 1: Ten nine Ignition six five four three two one zero
- 0:12Speaker 1: All engine running.
- 0:21Speaker 2: It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for
- 0:24Speaker 2: Ignition with the AEW fan Hub podcast team. This is
- 0:29Speaker 2: Kelson and we're going to kick it off right away.
- 0:33Speaker 2: We are going to talk about the Continental Classic. I
- 0:38Speaker 2: have a couple of things that I wanted to ask
- 0:41Speaker 2: you guys. First off, is there anybody on the roster
- 0:48Speaker 2: for the Continental Classic that you think was left out?
- 0:53Speaker 2: And I'll put the roster up right now. Uh, there
- 0:57Speaker 2: it is. That's the Blue Team and the Goal Old
- 1:01Speaker 2: Gold Blue League and the Gold League. Is there anybody
- 1:05Speaker 2: to hear that you would have liked those seen? And
- 1:07Speaker 2: if so, who would they have replaced?
- 1:10Speaker 3: There's definitely some people in there I would have liked
- 1:12Speaker 3: to see, But like you said, who would they replaced?
- 1:16Speaker 3: And honestly, I mean seven of the twelve that are
- 1:19Speaker 3: in are people I wanted in there, and the five
- 1:23Speaker 3: that weren't in my you know, fantasy booking field. I
- 1:29Speaker 3: like so because one of those I could maybe make
- 1:34Speaker 3: some changes, but I really like the field. I think
- 1:37Speaker 3: it's going to be a great tournament. I mean, lets
- 1:40Speaker 3: your versus Okada that tomorrow night, Kevin Knight, Mike Bailey
- 1:47Speaker 3: facing each other another, Darby Allen Park match, Tequshka against
- 1:53Speaker 3: freaking mox League, Claudio Master Derada. Like, there's some people
- 1:58Speaker 3: I would have liked to see, uh Bandido beat more Tows,
- 2:04Speaker 3: uh you know Selt and Benjamin because he's just so
- 2:07Speaker 3: freaking good. But uh, I don't. I wouldn't change anyone out.
- 2:13Speaker 3: I'm I'm good with this field overall.
- 2:16Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of think that maybe, Look, you know,
- 2:19Speaker 2: on the post at the aw path hub sub reddit
- 2:22Speaker 2: and on x there's a lot of people that have
- 2:24Speaker 2: mentioned Bandido, but you know, he's kind of banged up
- 2:28Speaker 2: a little bit, and I'm thinking that maybe they kept
- 2:31Speaker 2: him out and just simply because they wanted to give
- 2:35Speaker 2: him a little bit of a break, And.
- 2:38Speaker 3: That absolutely makes sense them would be completely understandable.
- 2:43Speaker 2: Go ahead, Jess.
- 2:44Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I would have liked to have seen a
- 2:46Speaker 4: Brodie King or had Ja Saro in there. But yeah,
- 2:49Speaker 4: I have no idea who I take out. I really
- 2:51Speaker 4: like this field.
- 2:52Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a strong field. What about UMK,
- 2:54Speaker 2: is there anybody that you think is missing?
- 2:58Speaker 5: I would love love to see Mostito in there. He's
- 3:02Speaker 5: always putting on a good match. I love it as
- 3:04Speaker 5: his entrance. If they could have got him in there,
- 3:06Speaker 5: that'd be great and I would have taken up. I
- 3:08Speaker 5: don't like Darby Allen in these He's not the type
- 3:10Speaker 5: of wrestler I want to see in these tournaments.
- 3:12Speaker 6: But that's just a preference, all right.
- 3:13Speaker 2: Well, looking at this roster, well, to answer my own question,
- 3:19Speaker 2: I really can't think of anybody that I would put
- 3:21Speaker 2: in because I don't think I can find anybody to
- 3:25Speaker 2: take out. I'm real happy with this. I would have
- 3:28Speaker 2: liked to have seen Bandido. But who do you take out? Really?
- 3:32Speaker 2: Because everybody that's on here deserves to be on there
- 3:36Speaker 2: at their work horses, they really are. So let's look
- 3:40Speaker 2: at the Blue League with Kenoski, Takeshta, Claudio, Casting, Noley,
- 3:45Speaker 2: Roderick Strong, John Moxley, Orange Cassidy and Mascira Derada. Who
- 3:51Speaker 2: do you look? The general consensus on social media and
- 3:58Speaker 2: on our specifically our social media is that it's going
- 4:02Speaker 2: to be takeshtat Okada in the finals. So but who's
- 4:07Speaker 2: if you don't agree with that, who do you think
- 4:10Speaker 2: is going to win the Blue League? Let's focus on
- 4:13Speaker 2: the Blue League specifically and who do you think comes
- 4:18Speaker 2: in second? In other words, who do you think will
- 4:20Speaker 2: be in the semi final match at World's End?
- 4:26Speaker 4: I I agree, I think this is totally going to
- 4:30Speaker 4: end up with Okada versus Takashta. But let's pretend for
- 4:33Speaker 4: a second that that's absolutely not going to happen. I
- 4:36Speaker 4: would say, uh, Muscariderata is probably going to, if not first,
- 4:43Speaker 4: come in second in the Blue League. He's really awesome.
- 4:46Speaker 4: Just every time I see him in the ring, it's
- 4:48Speaker 4: just absolutely amaze balls.
- 4:50Speaker 2: I don't know that that full gear match, there were
- 4:54Speaker 2: quite a few not so good moments, you know. I
- 4:59Speaker 2: mean you have to kind of point that out because
- 5:03Speaker 2: that was a little bit of a sloppy match. It
- 5:06Speaker 2: was good, don't get me wrong, but they were they
- 5:09Speaker 2: just didn't have chemistry, I don't think. But I agree
- 5:12Speaker 2: with you about Mascara Dorata. Let's go to MK. I.
- 5:19Speaker 5: I really want to see Takeshta beat John Moxley out
- 5:25Speaker 5: for the second place thing because that will put another
- 5:27Speaker 5: IGWP champion that he's beaten, uh on the road to
- 5:34Speaker 5: the tournament winning champion.
- 5:36Speaker 6: So I think that's who who will come out of
- 5:40Speaker 6: that one.
- 5:40Speaker 2: All right? Well, uh, let's go to tome Uh.
- 5:45Speaker 3: I'm going with Teuta in the one spot and Orange
- 5:50Speaker 3: Cacity in the two spots.
- 5:52Speaker 2: Orange Cassie, well, I'm going with Takeshta. Well, it really
- 5:57Speaker 2: doesn't matter if it's one or two, but my top
- 6:00Speaker 2: two we're going to be Takeshta and Uh. I think
- 6:05Speaker 2: it's going to come down to a final match between
- 6:08Speaker 2: John Moxley and Claudio Casamoli to fill in that last spot.
- 6:14Speaker 2: I think the Death I think the Death Writers story
- 6:17Speaker 2: is where we're going with this. I think like Orange
- 6:22Speaker 2: Cassidy and Rodert Strong are going to cancel out each
- 6:26Speaker 2: other and mac mascarrat Dorada is just going to lose.
- 6:30Speaker 2: It may be even a tie. I wouldn't I wouldn't
- 6:33Speaker 2: even be surprised that there was a tie in points
- 6:35Speaker 2: with MASc mascarrat Doerada being the third, and that the
- 6:39Speaker 2: semi final match for the Blue League at Russell Dream
- 6:44Speaker 2: is a three way. I really wouldn't be surprised. Well,
- 6:49Speaker 2: then let's move on to the Gold League. You've got
- 6:52Speaker 2: Darby Allen, Kevin Kdight, Kyle Fletcher, and it is pronounced
- 7:00Speaker 2: pack It's not pawk. I don't know why everybody says
- 7:03Speaker 2: Pac but it's Pack. That's way he's announced coming to
- 7:09Speaker 2: the ring. That's the way the announcers announce him, and
- 7:13Speaker 2: that's what he calls himself. But everybody calls him Pop
- 7:15Speaker 2: for whatever reason. Uh just think Pac Man, uh, Speedball,
- 7:20Speaker 2: Mike Bailey and Kazuchika Okada. So the same question, who's
- 7:29Speaker 2: one and two or two and one? And who's going
- 7:32Speaker 2: to the semi final match at World's End?
- 7:35Speaker 4: Okay, I'm calling ah. I think we've already pretty much
- 7:39Speaker 4: established that Okada number one, number two. I'm gonna go
- 7:44Speaker 4: out on a limon say Pack. He's been a beast
- 7:47Speaker 4: lately and I can totally see him like ripping through
- 7:51Speaker 4: this league sounds good.
- 7:52Speaker 2: Let's go to Let's go to time this time.
- 7:55Speaker 3: Okay, I gotta clear the semifinals are Blue one verse
- 8:01Speaker 3: Gold two and Gold one verse Blue two.
- 8:06Speaker 2: Right, that I'm not sure.
- 8:09Speaker 3: Of because that's what I'm basing my entire theory on.
- 8:14Speaker 3: If it's if it's Blue one versus Blue two and
- 8:18Speaker 3: Gold one versus Gold too, that kind of dumb because
- 8:21Speaker 3: they already wrestled during their block like it should be
- 8:24Speaker 3: the opposite, which is what I'm basing everything on when
- 8:28Speaker 3: I picked Okada for number one and Kyle Fletcher for
- 8:34Speaker 3: number two.
- 8:35Speaker 2: Okay, okay, so remind me of your your picks in
- 8:40Speaker 2: the Blue League. Then so.
- 8:44Speaker 3: At one, Orange Cassidy at two.
- 8:47Speaker 2: Okay. So you're thinking that it's what's the matchups then
- 8:50Speaker 2: that you're thinking in the in the semifinals.
- 8:54Speaker 3: Versus Fletcher and Okada versus Orange Cassidy.
- 8:59Speaker 2: Okay.
- 9:00Speaker 3: And I think Okada pulls the whole distraction saying so
- 9:06Speaker 3: Fletcher is able to I'm not gonna interfere, He's just gonna,
- 9:10Speaker 3: you know, have his music play.
- 9:12Speaker 2: Well, yeah, well there's no interference in the in the Continental,
- 9:18Speaker 2: nobody else is allowed to, you know, anywhere near the ring.
- 9:20Speaker 2: It's an automatic it's an automatic disqualification. I think it's
- 9:25Speaker 2: also a suspension if.
- 9:28Speaker 3: He'd just do the whole music thing and be like,
- 9:30Speaker 3: oh I thought we could test. I'm so sorry.
- 9:38Speaker 2: Go for the pit and the light, go for the
- 9:41Speaker 2: go for the pit and the lights go out.
- 9:45Speaker 3: Turned around, boom, Kyle Fletcher hit that brain buster.
- 9:51Speaker 2: By the way, that was a very accurate old Kada impersonation.
- 9:56Speaker 2: That was very good. Okay, let's go to you. I think.
- 10:02Speaker 6: I mean my Blue prediction.
- 10:04Speaker 5: I think it'll be Packed too, but it'll be Packed
- 10:07Speaker 5: versus Moxley.
- 10:08Speaker 2: Well that's a prediction. Huh, that's Gold. We're talking about Gold.
- 10:14Speaker 5: I know Pack, yeah, Pack, and it'll be Packed and
- 10:19Speaker 5: and Ocada. But if if Blue goes against Gold, then
- 10:24Speaker 5: that would set up Park versus Moxley.
- 10:26Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I I would like to see Pack
- 10:29Speaker 2: versus Boxley as well. And I'm going to go on
- 10:33Speaker 2: a limb and say that Pack wins the Gold League
- 10:37Speaker 2: or has the most points in the Gold League on
- 10:39Speaker 2: the strength of beating Okada and uh and and that's
- 10:45Speaker 2: what's going to happen, because that would then set up
- 10:48Speaker 2: Takeshta Okada in the semi finals. If that's the way
- 10:52Speaker 2: it's going to work, you know, and and Pack and Moxley.
- 10:58Speaker 2: I have to you know, I should have looked this up.
- 11:01Speaker 2: I'm not sure that's the way it goes. I hope
- 11:04Speaker 2: it is, because I think it's it's smart. You know,
- 11:06Speaker 2: as as Time said, it doesn't make somebody make sense
- 11:09Speaker 2: to have somebody wrestle each other twice in the leagues.
- 11:14Speaker 2: So all right, so then let's let's just go right
- 11:18Speaker 2: right to the Chase aw Continental Classic twenty twenty five,
- 11:22Speaker 2: the finals at Wrestle Dream. Who walks away as the
- 11:26Speaker 2: Continental Continental Classic winner?
- 11:30Speaker 3: Diqushta same Kyle Fletcher.
- 11:34Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta go with pack, I really do. I
- 11:38Speaker 2: I don't know what it is, but just based on
- 11:43Speaker 2: just everything that's been going on, it's let me put
- 11:48Speaker 2: it this way, if it's the Keshta or Akanda, it's expected.
- 11:54Speaker 2: I liked that last year's Continental Classic was not like
- 11:59Speaker 2: the First Continent Classic, when everybody knew who the winner
- 12:02Speaker 2: was going to be. It totally ruined the whole Classic
- 12:06Speaker 2: to me, and it could have been anybody, you know,
- 12:09Speaker 2: but we we knew who the winner was going to be.
- 12:11Speaker 2: In the first Continental Classic, it took every bit of
- 12:16Speaker 2: mystique away from it. To me, last year's it was
- 12:21Speaker 2: up in the air. It really was up in the air.
- 12:24Speaker 2: I mean, obviously Ocanna won it. They touted him and
- 12:28Speaker 2: really promoted him as the best tournament wrestler ever. But
- 12:35Speaker 2: having him win it again would just be we already
- 12:38Speaker 2: know he's the best tournament wrestler ever. Let's put somebody over.
- 12:42Speaker 2: And if they're going to put somebody over, I think
- 12:43Speaker 2: it's got to be pack. I really do. I would
- 12:46Speaker 2: really like to see it. So I don't know what
- 12:52Speaker 2: do you guys feel about it? I mean, as far
- 12:54Speaker 2: as do you agree with me that the First Continental
- 12:57Speaker 2: Classic was very predictable and that the same Continental Classic
- 13:02Speaker 2: was a little bit have more mistique to it.
- 13:05Speaker 4: Well, the first one, that's where anyone wasn't it.
- 13:09Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean, I mean we all knew that Eddie
- 13:12Speaker 2: was going to win that one.
- 13:13Speaker 4: I didn't. I was delighted. I was delighted to finish.
- 13:16Speaker 3: I didn't.
- 13:16Speaker 4: I actually didn't.
- 13:20Speaker 2: You were on the podcast. You were not on the
- 13:22Speaker 2: podcast back then. But as soon as we were doing this,
- 13:25Speaker 2: you know, after they announced the uh because because if
- 13:28Speaker 2: you remember the First Continental Classic, they did the reveal
- 13:32Speaker 2: of the rosters on YouTube and they had Eddie Kingston
- 13:37Speaker 2: come up out and put his titles up on the line,
- 13:40Speaker 2: the Ring of Honor and the new Japan already yeah
- 13:43Speaker 2: the yeah, the new Japan Strong Championship Men's Championship, and
- 13:49Speaker 2: you knew that they were going to take the New
- 13:52Speaker 2: Japan Strong champ Championship off of him. So right then,
- 13:56Speaker 2: everybody on the podcast was like, Eddie Kingson's going to
- 14:00Speaker 2: win it. We also predicted that he was going to
- 14:03Speaker 2: lose his first match. We were all very shocked, however,
- 14:08Speaker 2: that he did. If you remember in the first Continental
- 14:10Speaker 2: Classic he did lose his second match as well. He
- 14:15Speaker 2: was owed too at the start of the Continental Classic,
- 14:17Speaker 2: the first one. Uh, and that, of course he went
- 14:20Speaker 2: on to win. But we knew there was no surprise
- 14:25Speaker 2: at all there. I was barely very telegraphed. It was
- 14:29Speaker 2: very poorly done.
- 14:30Speaker 4: I didn't know. I thought putting the titles on the
- 14:33Speaker 4: line made and I made it extra exciting, like oh no,
- 14:36Speaker 4: But again, like I guess, I sort of like lost
- 14:40Speaker 4: myself in the suspension of disbelief. And plus I'm an
- 14:43Speaker 4: Eddie fan, So there you go.
- 14:45Speaker 3: I he was going to go zero and five and
- 14:49Speaker 3: Jay White was going to win, and that would be
- 14:51Speaker 3: his path to do some stuff with New Japan again.
- 14:55Speaker 3: And we were going to get a Bullet Club, gold
- 14:59Speaker 3: war Dogs few but Gato, right, what about.
- 15:06Speaker 2: What about you, Gail? He's gone, So I guess we.
- 15:09Speaker 5: Won't have Yeah, I knew im Sorry I muted, uh.
- 15:13Speaker 5: I knew that's what was gonna be when he brought
- 15:15Speaker 5: it out. I don't want it to happen. I just
- 15:18Speaker 5: thought it was hokey that he beat He beat Moxley
- 15:21Speaker 5: and Claudio and Daniel Bryan, some of the best wrestlers
- 15:26Speaker 5: there are.
- 15:27Speaker 6: In a w It was just hokey to me.
- 15:31Speaker 2: Yeah, I absolutely agree with you. That was just It's
- 15:36Speaker 2: just it was bad the First Continental Classic. I'm sorry
- 15:40Speaker 2: for me as a wrestling fan. It was bad. There
- 15:44Speaker 2: was not anything really good about it.
- 15:46Speaker 3: There were some really good matches.
- 15:51Speaker 2: I agree with you.
- 15:52Speaker 3: You knew what was going to happen. It definitely it
- 15:56Speaker 3: put a bit of a damper on it. I can
- 15:59Speaker 3: appreciate watching these matches for what they are exactly. I
- 16:04Speaker 3: know this tournament is going to be. Yeah, I mean
- 16:07Speaker 3: it was a disappointment overall because.
- 16:10Speaker 2: You know, and it's not really a slight. It's not
- 16:12Speaker 2: really a slight on Eddie. It's really something, you know,
- 16:15Speaker 2: a slight on Tony Kahan and a w because it
- 16:20Speaker 2: was just so telegraphed.
- 16:21Speaker 5: You.
- 16:21Speaker 2: I mean, I don't understand how anybody didn't know who
- 16:25Speaker 2: to win or the First Continental Classic was going to
- 16:27Speaker 2: be before it even started. I really don't know myself. Yeah,
- 16:31Speaker 2: I mean I understand that, but you're like one of
- 16:35Speaker 2: a very few. I'm sorry.
- 16:37Speaker 3: I knew, but I had hopes for different results. Hope
- 16:42Speaker 3: is for suck.
- 16:45Speaker 2: Sucker. Well, speaking of suckers, let's let's backtrack a little
- 16:53Speaker 2: bit for a few days and talk about full gear
- 16:58Speaker 2: look specific. Well, I want to ask you a question.
- 17:01Speaker 2: We saw three title changes and the crowning of a
- 17:05Speaker 2: new champion in MK. Please mute. We saw three new
- 17:12Speaker 2: title holders and the new national champion. Crowd. Then we
- 17:20Speaker 2: will be talking next about the national champion. But were
- 17:25Speaker 2: you surprised at all the titles that changed?
- 17:29Speaker 6: Uh?
- 17:30Speaker 2: And if so, which one was I don't know the
- 17:33Speaker 2: most surprising, which took you more most off guard?
- 17:37Speaker 3: Everything? Yeah, as far as the most surprised, that's a
- 17:44Speaker 3: toss up between the T and T and the world
- 17:47Speaker 3: titles changing. Like but I don't I'd lean a little
- 17:51Speaker 3: more towards the world title because, like I just I
- 17:56Speaker 3: didn't see it coming. I was expecting Hangman to get
- 17:59Speaker 3: like that long baby face run, you know, really established
- 18:05Speaker 3: himself as the top guy. And well that's happen. Yeah,
- 18:11Speaker 3: I agree.
- 18:12Speaker 4: I think we pretty much across the board had h
- 18:17Speaker 4: had uh Mark Briscoe losing that match and we and
- 18:21Speaker 4: going into a very amusing Butler storyline with the Callus family.
- 18:25Speaker 4: But we were robbed of Butler, of Butler Briscoe, and
- 18:29Speaker 4: it's kind of a bummer.
- 18:31Speaker 2: What about you, FKA.
- 18:35Speaker 5: I was just I don't mind Page losing the belt
- 18:39Speaker 5: to Samoa Joe, but I thought it would have held
- 18:42Speaker 5: out eventually for a little bit longer and he could
- 18:44Speaker 5: have done done some title defenses. I don't mind that.
- 18:50Speaker 5: I'll talk on why I didn't like the finished later
- 18:52Speaker 5: my potpourri well part of it, but I and I
- 18:57Speaker 5: I just thought Briscoe had a lot more better storyline running.
- 19:02Speaker 6: If he lost. But I get where they gave it
- 19:04Speaker 6: to him. Is a feel good moment.
- 19:06Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there was some Here's the thing. We
- 19:10Speaker 2: did a poll for Full Gear and pulled the community
- 19:15Speaker 2: o the nine matches. I think I think the community
- 19:20Speaker 2: went three and six. They got three right and six wrong.
- 19:26Speaker 2: That's not you know that just I'm not saying that
- 19:29Speaker 2: that's not good. What I'm saying is it's not typical
- 19:34Speaker 2: because I think the community more than likely gets these
- 19:39Speaker 2: right as a whole. And it just showed that this
- 19:43Speaker 2: pay per view was very unpredictable because there were like
- 19:52Speaker 2: the Pack and Darby match that was pretty much even
- 19:56Speaker 2: though the community. That was one that the community got right,
- 20:00Speaker 2: but it was very close. The vote was closed. But
- 20:03Speaker 2: some of the matches that ended up in a loss,
- 20:06Speaker 2: like Kyle Fletcher was picked massively over Mark Briscoe Hangman,
- 20:11Speaker 2: Adam Page was picked massively over Samoa Joe. We're talking
- 20:16Speaker 2: eighty ninety percent of the community picked those winners that
- 20:22Speaker 2: ended up to be wrong. I think the other two
- 20:26Speaker 2: that the community got right was Chris Statlander over Mercedes Monet,
- 20:33Speaker 2: And honestly, I don't have it in front of me,
- 20:35Speaker 2: but I don't remember the other one. I know that
- 20:38Speaker 2: they picked Kyle Fletcher, they picked Hangman. You know, these
- 20:43Speaker 2: were surprises. But one of the things I will say
- 20:46Speaker 2: about the main event, and I don't know if you
- 20:49Speaker 2: agree with me on this and please express your opinions,
- 20:52Speaker 2: is I like two things about the main event. One
- 20:56Speaker 2: obviously swear Strickland's return, and the second thing was the
- 21:04Speaker 2: whole thing with hook with Powerhouse, Hobbs, Kassiori, Shabana. It
- 21:10Speaker 2: really elevated them. That little bit, that little minuscule part
- 21:16Speaker 2: at the end of that steel cage match, I believe
- 21:21Speaker 2: made the ops more relevant, and that's something that you
- 21:26Speaker 2: need in professional wrestling relevancy? What did you guys think?
- 21:30Speaker 3: I didn't like it.
- 21:33Speaker 4: I didn't like it because I've Number one, I'm a
- 21:35Speaker 4: huge Hangman fan, as I think people have figured out
- 21:39Speaker 4: by now, and number two, it completely killed every scrap
- 21:43Speaker 4: of fantasy booking I had for the future. I am
- 21:47Speaker 4: just completely down to square one now.
- 21:51Speaker 2: Well, I'm sorry for your loss.
- 21:53Speaker 4: Thank you. Hey, my fantasy booking means a lot to me.
- 21:57Speaker 4: I'm a creative type. I can't help it. But in
- 22:01Speaker 4: any case, it was a very good match on its face.
- 22:05Speaker 4: I was pretty shocked at the shocking hook swerve. I
- 22:11Speaker 4: I think I said several times in the discord chat
- 22:15Speaker 4: that Taz, Taz, I love you, but you raised a
- 22:18Speaker 4: crappy kid.
- 22:22Speaker 2: Well that's not fair. I'm sure Tyler is a very
- 22:26Speaker 2: very nice human being. I'm r I can tell you
- 22:30Speaker 2: about him. You you're questioning Taz's I know you're in KF,
- 22:36Speaker 2: but uh, you're questioning Taz's parenting skills. I mean, for
- 22:41Speaker 2: all we know is mother is the one that turned
- 22:43Speaker 2: them rotten. Mm hmm, probably very t.
- 22:49Speaker 3: See. And this is why I want New Japan to
- 22:53Speaker 3: send Varashima over to a w so he can learn
- 22:57Speaker 3: from Tas. Tas can get a second chance. And I
- 23:00Speaker 3: know you have a good boy.
- 23:01Speaker 2: I thought you were gonna say Yoshi tattoo and I
- 23:03Speaker 2: was gonna have to kick your butt. Oh we have.
- 23:08Speaker 2: We have a inside joke about Yoshi tatsoo on the
- 23:14Speaker 2: Discord Service specifically. Uh, and it's not a very good one. Uh.
- 23:20Speaker 3: Hey, that's the world famous lord.
- 23:24Speaker 2: The world famous. Oh my god, I can't believe I'd
- 23:29Speaker 2: be brought that up. We are cursed for all time. Now,
- 23:35Speaker 2: we are cursed for all time.
- 23:37Speaker 3: Oh God, Back to the Matt. I love it. U.
- 23:44Speaker 3: Interference is one of those things I just I hate
- 23:49Speaker 3: in wrestling, Like it just it deepens everything. It's like
- 23:53Speaker 3: it's like when some punk jumps in from behind and
- 23:56Speaker 3: help his buddy in a real fight. You don't, that's all.
- 24:01Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
- 24:04Speaker 3: Interference has always been like my biggest at me, like
- 24:09Speaker 3: a manager, like distracting someone or even doing the little
- 24:13Speaker 3: trip up. Okay, I get it. You know, they're they're
- 24:18Speaker 3: the they're the rich kid who's using the bully to
- 24:23Speaker 3: protect my kids. Yeah. Once the interference started, I just
- 24:29Speaker 3: kind of I was like, well, I hope this doesn't
- 24:32Speaker 3: end badly? And then it did, and.
- 24:37Speaker 5: Yeah, I see what you're saying for me. For me, especially,
- 24:41Speaker 5: cage matches don't need interference. That's what made me mad.
- 24:45Speaker 5: Why why make it a cage match and just just
- 24:48Speaker 5: have him.
- 24:48Speaker 6: Rip off the door?
- 24:49Speaker 5: That's rip off the door, which is so cliche nowadays.
- 24:53Speaker 5: That's my problem with the ending. It's just why why
- 24:56Speaker 5: make it a cage match?
- 24:57Speaker 2: What's the purpose?
- 25:00Speaker 3: No?
- 25:01Speaker 2: And I get it, you know, uh, but yess, what
- 25:06Speaker 2: is other than lamenting your fantasy booking? What did you
- 25:11Speaker 2: think of the total thing? Would Swerve and the ops that.
- 25:18Speaker 4: Sort of saved the ending for me? I was like,
- 25:22Speaker 4: all ready to go to bed on it, go to
- 25:25Speaker 4: go to bed very very late, in a very sour mood.
- 25:29Speaker 4: And then we saw like the image of the burning
- 25:32Speaker 4: house and I'm like, oh my god, it's Swerve. I
- 25:36Speaker 4: knew it was Swerve even before we saw it, Nana,
- 25:39Speaker 4: Just like that burning house imagery means one of two people,
- 25:42Speaker 4: and hang In was already in the ring, so I
- 25:46Speaker 4: was very glad to see him. I'm not souls on
- 25:49Speaker 4: his new music yet, but.
- 25:53Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought that up, Jess, because that was
- 25:57Speaker 2: my next question swears new music personally, And I'm gonna
- 26:05Speaker 2: say this, you know, and it probably will be unpopular,
- 26:09Speaker 2: but I thought his old music was by far the
- 26:16Speaker 2: worst I think I'd ever heard. It sounded like something
- 26:20Speaker 2: that should have been on Sesame Street. It was terrible.
- 26:25Speaker 2: He needed something more impactful, And this I think will
- 26:29Speaker 2: grow on a lot of people that old music of his.
- 26:34Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I'm not saying
- 26:38Speaker 2: that it's a bad track. I'm saying it was a
- 26:42Speaker 2: bad track for professional wrestling and for an entrance. I
- 26:46Speaker 2: want entrances to be impactful. And I don't know what
- 26:50Speaker 2: you guys think about this, but like when you think
- 26:52Speaker 2: of great entrances, they hit hard right from the get go.
- 27:00Speaker 2: Lost Pray is a good example. As soon as his
- 27:02Speaker 2: entrance hits the crowd, his music hits. The crowd goes
- 27:06Speaker 2: nuts at his music. You know what I'm saying.
- 27:10Speaker 3: I get what you're saying. I feel the same way
- 27:12Speaker 3: about Hook's new music, like not a bad song, but
- 27:17Speaker 3: a bad.
- 27:19Speaker 4: Especially since his original song.
- 27:21Speaker 3: Was so good.
- 27:21Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you with Hook, But you know
- 27:23Speaker 2: what I'm saying. When you heard the glass shattering, you
- 27:26Speaker 2: knew Steve Austin was coming out, and it always gotta
- 27:28Speaker 2: pop when you know exactly or if you smell you know,
- 27:35Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. That's the kind of thing
- 27:37Speaker 2: that I like. So uh but anyway, so let what
- 27:45Speaker 2: I mean, let's let's hear your opinions on the new
- 27:48Speaker 2: music for a swerve feel like.
- 27:51Speaker 4: I don't think maybe it'll grow on me.
- 27:54Speaker 7: I don't like it as much right now, only after one,
- 27:59Speaker 7: only after here at once.
- 28:00Speaker 6: So there's that.
- 28:01Speaker 4: But it's what it's easy for.
- 28:03Speaker 3: Not a dance too. Yeah, I'm going with it, but
- 28:06Speaker 3: none has got to figure out a new game.
- 28:09Speaker 2: I don't know. We've only heard it once. No, that's it.
- 28:13Speaker 2: What about? UMK, I didn't watch the pay per view,
- 28:18Speaker 2: so okay, so you don't have an opinion why you
- 28:20Speaker 2: have an opinions about the pay per view, like the
- 28:25Speaker 2: whole Samo Joe winning thing when you didn't watch it.
- 28:28Speaker 6: Boys, I watched the clips.
- 28:32Speaker 2: Oh my god. But anyway, the other matches on the
- 28:39Speaker 2: full gear pay per view, which one? Just pick one?
- 28:44Speaker 2: Which one other than the main event? Which one impacted
- 28:48Speaker 2: you the most? Which one do you think you'll remember
- 28:51Speaker 2: the most?
- 28:52Speaker 7: The women's title match it was awesome. Both Stat and
- 28:57Speaker 7: Mercedes are always great, but just the whole match was incredible,
- 29:02Speaker 7: just from Stat's.
- 29:03Speaker 4: Cool little alien entrance.
- 29:05Speaker 7: I do like that she's like paying or homage to
- 29:08Speaker 7: like her original alien gimmick without you know, going full alien.
- 29:13Speaker 4: Some I thought it was cute, but I know.
- 29:14Speaker 7: It annoyed a lot of people, my husband included.
- 29:19Speaker 2: Speaking of alien, Jess, you sound like a space alien
- 29:22Speaker 2: when you're talking right now. I don't know what you did,
- 29:24Speaker 2: but your audio is very is digitized. Okay, that's weird,
- 29:34Speaker 2: not necessarily. Uh what about you, Marcus? Yeah, mkay. What
- 29:39Speaker 2: do you think.
- 29:42Speaker 6: From what I've heard of the Casino Gauntlet? I just
- 29:47Speaker 6: love Uh.
- 29:48Speaker 5: I'm a huge fan of Ricochet. He has a lot
- 29:52Speaker 5: of haters and this is the way to shut them up.
- 29:54Speaker 5: I think they're always saying that he's not good enough,
- 29:56Speaker 5: not charismatic enough, and that he hasn't gotten gold. But
- 29:59Speaker 5: now he's gonna got he gets gold, and the way
- 30:03Speaker 5: he won was excellent. He got beat up the whole
- 30:06Speaker 5: match and.
- 30:06Speaker 2: Okay, okay, well let me stop you right there, because,
- 30:09Speaker 2: as I said earlier, our next topic is the National Championship,
- 30:14Speaker 2: So I'll let you complete your thoughts after time gives.
- 30:19Speaker 3: His impact the tag team titlement. I thought that was
- 30:24Speaker 3: the matter. It was so filling, those thirteen went all out.
- 30:30Speaker 3: I would put it in the Back of the year contention. Honestly,
- 30:34Speaker 3: I loved everything about it. I can't say enough things.
- 30:39Speaker 2: Okay, all right, well then, kay, let's go on to
- 30:42Speaker 2: the National Championship. You said that you were happy that
- 30:46Speaker 2: Hook won it and that he's shutting up his Uh.
- 30:50Speaker 2: I guess his naysayers is the best way of putting it.
- 30:54Speaker 6: Ricochet, you said, I said, Hook, right, Well, well you know.
- 31:00Speaker 2: They all tass stupid kid, stupid kid. Uh.
- 31:11Speaker 6: Look, I really really like Ricochet.
- 31:16Speaker 2: He deserves it.
- 31:17Speaker 5: The man can go with anybody, and his charisma has
- 31:21Speaker 5: really shown that he has what it takes to do it.
- 31:25Speaker 6: I like him with his his group.
- 31:27Speaker 5: But if that comes about to be what it's supposed
- 31:30Speaker 5: to be, that belt, it's gonna have to be defended elsewhere,
- 31:37Speaker 5: and once upon a time, Tony's gonna have to give
- 31:41Speaker 5: someone outside of aw a chance to hold that belt
- 31:43Speaker 5: or it means nothing to me anyway.
- 31:46Speaker 2: No, and I agree with you. Let's let's get on
- 31:49Speaker 2: Justs's opinion on the National Championship Belton Casino match.
- 31:55Speaker 4: Well, first off, it's a beautiful title. I love the
- 32:00Speaker 4: retro look, gorgeous belt. The whole thing was fun. Yeah,
- 32:09Speaker 4: I guess Ricochet is a good person to win it.
- 32:12Speaker 4: He's not who I would have picked, but yeah, I
- 32:18Speaker 4: can see the merits of having a Ricochet as your
- 32:20Speaker 4: first champion National Champion.
- 32:23Speaker 2: All right, time, what do you got? Yeah? I love
- 32:27Speaker 2: the match.
- 32:27Speaker 3: Belt is freaking gorgeous, and Ricochet was one of the
- 32:32Speaker 3: three people I picked to win. I think it was
- 32:36Speaker 3: a great win for him, and I mean he played
- 32:39Speaker 3: it so well, just basically getting the crap beat out
- 32:42Speaker 3: of him for a lot of the mess. You know,
- 32:45Speaker 3: he had a he had a great plan to take
- 32:47Speaker 3: out the first two guys, but wasn't prepared for the
- 32:50Speaker 3: next guy or the guy after that. But it all
- 32:54Speaker 3: ended up working out for him. He found a way
- 32:57Speaker 3: to win, and I think it'll be a great champion.
- 33:01Speaker 3: I'm hoping. Yeah, he goes to CMLL, he goes to
- 33:05Speaker 3: New Japan, he goes to Redpro. You know, I mean, hey,
- 33:10Speaker 3: there's there's still thoughts on the card for Wressell Kingdom.
- 33:14Speaker 3: You know, give him a match against you know, one
- 33:18Speaker 3: of their one of their up and comers who he
- 33:21Speaker 3: could beat but have a really good match with.
- 33:24Speaker 2: So we all in agreement with what MK said initially
- 33:27Speaker 2: that you know this, this title doesn't really work unless
- 33:32Speaker 2: it is put on non a W wrestlers. I mean,
- 33:38Speaker 2: are we are we agreeing on that?
- 33:41Speaker 3: I think within the first five champions, you know, maybe
- 33:48Speaker 3: the third or fourth person to win it is a
- 33:52Speaker 3: non a W guy. You know, someone like a Master
- 33:55Speaker 3: of Dorado who you know could come in and still
- 33:59Speaker 3: work matches, who has worked in New Japan as well. Yeah,
- 34:03Speaker 3: I think it will mostly be held by a W rustler,
- 34:08Speaker 3: but I think you have to have some non AW
- 34:12Speaker 3: guys in the title lineage, especially at least one early on.
- 34:17Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 34:17Speaker 4: What I think is, since Tony gives the wrestlers in
- 34:22Speaker 4: AEW more freedom to go hither and yon than they
- 34:25Speaker 4: have over at WWE, I think it'd be cool to
- 34:28Speaker 4: have like the have the national title be sort of
- 34:31Speaker 4: like a touring belt, or that the wrestlers that go
- 34:34Speaker 4: to different like federations outside of ae W to defend
- 34:41Speaker 4: them there and maybe even lose them there. I think
- 34:44Speaker 4: it'd be a great way to show like synergy with
- 34:46Speaker 4: other companies.
- 34:49Speaker 2: I agree with you to be kind of like what
- 34:51Speaker 2: Mercedes Monette is doing so she you know.
- 34:54Speaker 4: She doesn't lose, but reverse Monet belt.
- 34:59Speaker 2: Reverse rev Monet. Gosh, when you know, we're talking about
- 35:04Speaker 2: the National Championship here, so that'll be a potpourri thing.
- 35:08Speaker 2: But for me, the National I thought Ricochet was a
- 35:11Speaker 2: good choice. I really did. I thought the match itself
- 35:18Speaker 2: was poor. I thought it was poor. I mean, Bobby
- 35:23Speaker 2: Lashley and Shelton Benjamin are these two big, hulking guys.
- 35:28Speaker 2: And I even said it on the live chat at
- 35:31Speaker 2: the aw padum subreddit. I was like, where did they go?
- 35:35Speaker 2: Did they have to go to the bathroom or do
- 35:37Speaker 2: they in the back? You know, they just you know,
- 35:40Speaker 2: I get it when you have a casino gatlin match
- 35:42Speaker 2: type match, but there were two people in the ring.
- 35:46Speaker 2: Far too much. When you had twelve wrestlers in the
- 35:50Speaker 2: match and there were two three people in the ring
- 35:53Speaker 2: with nine outside the ring acting like they were dead
- 35:58Speaker 2: because they got slapped in the face. That is a
- 36:00Speaker 2: big pet peeve of mine. Uh, they need to make
- 36:03Speaker 2: this match, in my opinion, to make the need to
- 36:07Speaker 2: make this match more like if you go outside the ring,
- 36:14Speaker 2: you have twenty seconds to get back in and have
- 36:16Speaker 2: a have a have a army of referees out there
- 36:22Speaker 2: to monitor that.
- 36:23Speaker 4: Yeah, Lumberjacks, even lumber.
- 36:25Speaker 2: Jackson were grade Keelson.
- 36:28Speaker 6: Do you remember the uh.
- 36:32Speaker 5: The gauntlet all in where the guys had it and
- 36:35Speaker 5: it wasn't as good as a women's women's one. I
- 36:38Speaker 5: don't know what it is about the men's, but they
- 36:40Speaker 5: do it totally different and it doesn't work for me
- 36:42Speaker 5: as well.
- 36:44Speaker 3: Well.
- 36:44Speaker 2: One thing I will say about it, and just keep
- 36:47Speaker 2: this in mind, is that when you look at the
- 36:49Speaker 2: women compared them to the men, the smallest men is
- 36:54Speaker 2: going to be larger than most of the women. In
- 36:58Speaker 2: other words, uh, there's simply more room for more women
- 37:02Speaker 2: in the ring than it is for having men in
- 37:04Speaker 2: the ring because some of the guys are massive. Uh
- 37:08Speaker 2: you know, they take up room and the room the
- 37:11Speaker 2: ring is only so big, it can only support so
- 37:14Speaker 2: much weight time. I mean, I'd like to hear your
- 37:19Speaker 2: opinion on that. I mean, is there a concern in
- 37:24Speaker 2: a wrestling ring when you've got say, too much weight
- 37:27Speaker 2: on for sure?
- 37:30Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, it's just it's a thirty construction. I mean,
- 37:34Speaker 3: it's steel and wood. You know, with some patting over it, like,
- 37:40Speaker 3: I mean, it's thirty, but there is a there is
- 37:42Speaker 3: a definite limit to how much it can hold, you know,
- 37:46Speaker 3: just the way those frames are built. Sometimes you'll have
- 37:51Speaker 3: feels under to kind of keep the post thirty.
- 37:54Speaker 4: You know.
- 37:54Speaker 3: There's actually I was I was bring announcing so one
- 37:58Speaker 3: time and those tables snapped right before one of the matches.
- 38:02Speaker 3: Took a good twenty minutes to fix. And even then
- 38:07Speaker 3: the next guys in the ring were a little more
- 38:11Speaker 3: careful than I had normally seen them, like just because
- 38:16Speaker 3: I mean.
- 38:17Speaker 2: They were tentative, I guess, yeah.
- 38:20Speaker 3: Yeah, because I mean, and an aw ring is going
- 38:25Speaker 3: to have a is going to be probably better built
- 38:28Speaker 3: than some others. You know, it's going to be the
- 38:32Speaker 3: best construction. But even then, yeah, there's definitely a weight
- 38:36Speaker 3: limit on those I mean, so yeah, you got to
- 38:40Speaker 3: kind of figure out how many you can get in
- 38:43Speaker 3: the ring and how big everyone is, all that kind
- 38:46Speaker 3: of stuff. I think there were times where definitely they
- 38:52Speaker 3: keep too many out of the ring. But yeah, it
- 38:54Speaker 3: can definitely be a concern with battle are you looking?
- 39:00Speaker 2: When you look at something like the Royal Rumble, you'll
- 39:03Speaker 2: notice that obviously they can't leave the ring. But there
- 39:08Speaker 2: are a lot of the wrestlers hang out, like on
- 39:10Speaker 2: in the corners or on the apron Yeah, like on
- 39:15Speaker 2: their back under the ropes.
- 39:17Speaker 3: Yeah, they're the thurdiest area, the middles where you're gonna
- 39:21Speaker 3: get the best off, the best sound, all that fight.
- 39:26Speaker 3: I mean, it's basic business. The closer you go, the
- 39:31Speaker 3: less support you have.
- 39:33Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, look, I'm gonna put you guys on the
- 39:36Speaker 2: spot here. While we're talking about the National Wrestling Championship.
- 39:42Speaker 2: Ricochet is the champion. Let's just say it's time for
- 39:45Speaker 2: him to lose it. Who would you like to see
- 39:50Speaker 2: as the new or as the next aw National Wrestling Champion? Okay?
- 39:59Speaker 4: Oops, sorry, yeah, sorry, yees Speedball. I love Speedball. I
- 40:05Speaker 4: think he'd make a great champion.
- 40:07Speaker 2: Okay, what about okay, Metico?
- 40:10Speaker 5: Imagine that match Ricochet versus Michiko.
- 40:14Speaker 2: Yeah, Mistico would be a good choice. I I'd like
- 40:19Speaker 2: to see a mismatch of sorts and I would like
- 40:21Speaker 2: to keep it at a w And I'm gonna say
- 40:24Speaker 2: this out of total uh sentimental value, but I'd kind
- 40:30Speaker 2: of like to see Keith Lee. That's that's my guy.
- 40:34Speaker 2: I want to see Keith Lee win the national championship.
- 40:37Speaker 2: He comes back, gets his feet under him, and then
- 40:43Speaker 2: you know, Ricoshet comes out, calls him names and gets
- 40:47Speaker 2: him mad and they have a match and you know,
- 40:51Speaker 2: Revolution next year or something like that. I I don't know,
- 40:54Speaker 2: there's just something about I just really like Keith Lee
- 40:58Speaker 2: for no other reason that I like him. I'd like
- 41:01Speaker 2: to see Keith Lee win the championship, win that national championship.
- 41:05Speaker 4: I'm changing my pick. I say, I say Keith Lee too.
- 41:08Speaker 4: I've said it before, I'll say it again. There are
- 41:10Speaker 4: two types of people in this world. People who love
- 41:12Speaker 4: Keith Lee and people who are liars.
- 41:14Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. I mean the guy is just indubably
- 41:19Speaker 2: the best. Yeah. Well, let's move on to our next topic.
- 41:28Speaker 2: That was brought up by Barry. He could not be
- 41:31Speaker 2: with us tonight, uh because he had you know, life happens.
- 41:36Speaker 2: But I think it's a good topic. And this graphic
- 41:42Speaker 2: if you're if you're listening on Spotify or or Apple podcasts,
- 41:46Speaker 2: you don't see the graphic graphic. But if you're watching
- 41:48Speaker 2: live on X we're talking about blood in a w
- 41:52Speaker 2: and I I can't really do a blood graphic because
- 42:02Speaker 2: it would get blocked on different social media platforms. So
- 42:08Speaker 2: I just got this blood splatter graphic here, and it
- 42:13Speaker 2: kind of looks like a very demented fried egg. I
- 42:18Speaker 2: don't know another way to explain it. It doesn't look
- 42:20Speaker 2: like blood, but it's supposed to be blood. Yeah, it's
- 42:24Speaker 2: a hellish fried egg. I don't know what the hell
- 42:27Speaker 2: that's supposed to be, but it's supposed to be blood,
- 42:30Speaker 2: even though it does not look like blood to me
- 42:33Speaker 2: at all. But anyway, look, we had Blood and Guts
- 42:38Speaker 2: ten days before before the Full Gear pay per view.
- 42:43Speaker 2: Full Gear was loaded with bloody matches, and of course
- 42:48Speaker 2: Blood and Guts was loaded with bloody matches because it's
- 42:52Speaker 2: called blood and guts. It's not called, you know, modeling
- 42:56Speaker 2: in guts or whatever. So but the sure it was
- 43:01Speaker 2: that it's maybe a little bit overdone, does aw the
- 43:06Speaker 2: kind of I don't know, hold back on bloody matches
- 43:13Speaker 2: for a little while. Nope, what do you think?
- 43:15Speaker 6: Nope?
- 43:16Speaker 3: Hell no, absolutely no.
- 43:20Speaker 2: Let it ride.
- 43:20Speaker 3: The thing is, yes, there were quite a few bloody matches,
- 43:25Speaker 3: but it made sense in every single match, like you're
- 43:30Speaker 3: you're really expecting a cage match to not potentially end
- 43:35Speaker 3: up bloody by no DQ match, no old guard. I mean,
- 43:40Speaker 3: like it would be one thing if this was happening
- 43:43Speaker 3: in just random singles matches or you know, a tag
- 43:47Speaker 3: match or whatever. But like every match where there was
- 43:50Speaker 3: blood had a special stipulation. You know, it opened itself
- 43:57Speaker 3: up to being a bloody fat.
- 44:00Speaker 2: Let me let me stop you there, Let me stop
- 44:03Speaker 2: you there, because I'm gonna ask you a secondary question
- 44:05Speaker 2: because one of the things that I've seen on UH
- 44:10Speaker 2: for example, the Greatness of Wrestling sub Reddit, when they
- 44:12Speaker 2: were talking about UH full Gear before the before the
- 44:17Speaker 2: pay per view, they were like, why aren't there so
- 44:22Speaker 2: many stipulation matches in AW and so so you can
- 44:27Speaker 2: even add that to it. Too much blood and too
- 44:29Speaker 2: many stipulation matches. What do you think.
- 44:33Speaker 3: Again, I don't think so, because most of the time
- 44:38Speaker 3: they've saved these stipulation matches for pay per viewers, which is,
- 44:44Speaker 3: you know, adding stipulations makes the match feel bigger, It
- 44:50Speaker 3: makes it like, Okay, you know, these two guys, they've
- 44:54Speaker 3: been going at it back and forth. They're finally gonna
- 44:57Speaker 3: settle the score. You know, they're gonna the hell out
- 45:01Speaker 3: of each other, you know, do whatever they want and
- 45:05Speaker 3: this thing gets ended or you know, one of them
- 45:09Speaker 3: is going to prove I'm the better wrestler. So you know,
- 45:13Speaker 3: if again, if it was happening every week on you know,
- 45:18Speaker 3: Dynamite and Delision, then yeah, I say it's too much.
- 45:21Speaker 3: But when you're keeping it for pay per views, when
- 45:24Speaker 3: you're keeping it for bigger matches, it worked.
- 45:28Speaker 2: Yeah, well like what what? But another question, Jess, this
- 45:31Speaker 2: will be a question specifically to you. Then we had
- 45:36Speaker 2: a no holds barred match. I believe after a no
- 45:39Speaker 2: DQ match is that those have been spread out, and
- 45:45Speaker 2: of course the other questions, it's down a little.
- 45:48Speaker 7: But I had no problem with the amount of gimmick
- 45:51Speaker 7: matches mixed stipulation as they were on the show, some
- 45:59Speaker 7: sort of cushiony in between. The show was already stacked
- 46:02Speaker 7: up as it was, so maybe just some reshuffling, but no,
- 46:08Speaker 7: you know, I have no problem either with the amount
- 46:11Speaker 7: of stipulation matches or the amount of for the symptoms.
- 46:16Speaker 2: Maybe all right, Okay, what did you have to say?
- 46:19Speaker 6: Sorry? I was laughing at Jess.
- 46:22Speaker 2: She sounds like she's yeah anyway, she was like a spaceship.
- 46:29Speaker 5: Yeah, so I really don't, like I said before, I
- 46:33Speaker 5: didn't see a need for the cage match. I know
- 46:36Speaker 5: it's a blowoff match, but and except for the Carl
- 46:40Speaker 5: Riley match, and Moxley I think deserved it because he
- 46:46Speaker 5: had gotten at it so many times with disqualifications and stuff,
- 46:51Speaker 5: so that one deserved it. I don't mind blood when
- 46:56Speaker 5: it's necessary. I mean, having no blood it's like telling you.
- 46:59Speaker 5: I'm like telling ECW you can't have violence. So it's
- 47:05Speaker 5: just one of those things that goes along with a
- 47:07Speaker 5: I mean, if it happens, it happens.
- 47:09Speaker 2: Well, here's my opinion on this as far as the
- 47:12Speaker 2: blood goes. Saturday is WWE Survivor series wargames. We've now
- 47:21Speaker 2: had AW have blood baths for two gigantic blood baths
- 47:28Speaker 2: over the period of ten days. Part of me things
- 47:31Speaker 2: that this was AW saying this is the balls in
- 47:35Speaker 2: your court. You know you're gonna have something called wargames.
- 47:40Speaker 2: Basically there's a very similar concept to blood of guts
- 47:45Speaker 2: and you're not gonna do a war, you know what
- 47:48Speaker 2: I'm saying. I kind of think that that may be
- 47:51Speaker 2: part of the booking of all this. I did think
- 47:54Speaker 2: that some of the matches, the stipulations were quite unnecessary
- 48:00Speaker 2: specifically the women's four way tag match, where the winner
- 48:07Speaker 2: of that match the stipulation was that they could pick
- 48:10Speaker 2: a stipulation for their semi final match in the AW
- 48:15Speaker 2: Women's World Tag Team Tournament. A lot of people that
- 48:20Speaker 2: were on social media on our social media specifically said
- 48:26Speaker 2: that it should have been the quarterfinal I mean the
- 48:29Speaker 2: semi final matches in the tag tournament at full gear,
- 48:33Speaker 2: you know, just so that you know so, I kind
- 48:38Speaker 2: of I see that point, I kind of do. I
- 48:42Speaker 2: thought that was a very unnecessary stipulation match. The whole
- 48:47Speaker 2: match was unnecessary. Honestly, it should have been two women's matches. Added,
- 48:55Speaker 2: I mean, just just do the semi final matches and
- 49:01Speaker 2: then you have two weeks or whatever how long they're
- 49:04Speaker 2: gonna I don't know when they're planning on doing, uh,
- 49:08Speaker 2: the other I know, what is it? Tomorrow night? It's
- 49:10Speaker 2: Julia Hart and sky Blue against the Babes of Wrath
- 49:14Speaker 2: on Dynamite. I don't know what they're gonna do to
- 49:17Speaker 2: Tony Storm and Mina sher Kaal against U Shapir and Bain.
- 49:23Speaker 2: But and of course we don't know have any idea.
- 49:27Speaker 2: I don't think they've announced what they're doing the finals.
- 49:30Speaker 2: Will that be a world's end? I don't know, so,
- 49:37Speaker 2: I don't know. It's I just didn't think that that
- 49:40Speaker 2: match needed a stipulation like it did. Yeah, but anyway,
- 49:45Speaker 2: let's move on to I love this graphic our pot pourri.
- 49:48Speaker 7: Uh I.
- 49:53Speaker 3: I know that.
- 49:55Speaker 2: Who wasn't that said that they had a pot pourri
- 49:56Speaker 2: and I said that they could go first. I think
- 49:59Speaker 2: it was Jess. Yeah, let's all right, let's get your
- 50:02Speaker 2: space alien voice on here, and what's your pope bury.
- 50:05Speaker 7: Okay, this is just gonna be a short little thing.
- 50:10Speaker 7: There's a familiar German concept called shout, which basically translates
- 50:15Speaker 7: literally to shameful joy, and it's finding pleasure.
- 50:19Speaker 4: In the pain of another.
- 50:20Speaker 7: I'm try not to indulge in this very often, but
- 50:24Speaker 7: as soon as I saw it when brock lesnar fell
- 50:26Speaker 7: on his stupid butt right in front.
- 50:28Speaker 3: Of it, right in the middle of his entrance, I cackle.
- 50:31Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I did see that, and uh, okay, I'm
- 50:34Speaker 2: gonna have to go. Yeah. Well, basically it was uh
- 50:40Speaker 2: people people on uh social media. I saw post. It
- 50:44Speaker 2: was like it's like the shock Master all over again.
- 50:46Speaker 2: It was not that bad, but it was and do
- 50:51Speaker 2: his credit. Brock Lesler popped right back up, and you
- 50:55Speaker 2: could tell that he was completely amused by it. That's
- 50:58Speaker 2: what he just seems like a big like guy that
- 51:03Speaker 2: that enjoys self appreciating humor. So he kind of found
- 51:07Speaker 2: it hysterical. Uh but yeah, he fell out his big ass.
- 51:14Speaker 2: There's the one other way to put it. Anybody else
- 51:16Speaker 2: have a potpourri?
- 51:17Speaker 3: H I kind of got I guess too. I know
- 51:23Speaker 3: I normally do these New Japan World Tag League getting
- 51:27Speaker 3: into swing night five and about m seven hours.
- 51:36Speaker 2: Yeah, Friday morning morning, most of the Friday morning, right. Ah.
- 51:43Speaker 3: You know they've had the first four ninety block his head,
- 51:46Speaker 3: two of their seven matches. Saw I mean, if you're interested,
- 51:50Speaker 3: now a good time to watch. I just I like
- 51:55Speaker 3: shouting out in New Japan impossible, Helson. Can I talk
- 51:59Speaker 3: about the show we talked about.
- 52:04Speaker 2: Maybe no, no, no, no, let's leave that to the
- 52:08Speaker 2: something else. But going back to the New Japan Tag League, Uh,
- 52:17Speaker 2: where can we watch it?
- 52:19Speaker 3: New Japan World?
- 52:20Speaker 2: You know New Japan World.
- 52:23Speaker 3: Yeah, they do the month you get all the World
- 52:28Speaker 3: Tag League, you'll get the Road to Tokyo Dome, Russell
- 52:32Speaker 3: Kingdom coming up to January fourth, Uh, with Testa defending
- 52:38Speaker 3: his i WTP heavyweight title. It's got facing for the
- 52:44Speaker 3: last time ever. Well, no, Lance Archer could potentially be
- 52:54Speaker 3: challenging for the i w TP heavyweight tag team titles
- 52:59Speaker 3: if Monster sauce the team of him and I would
- 53:03Speaker 3: say when World.
- 53:04Speaker 2: Tag League there you go, yeah, does that? Does World
- 53:12Speaker 2: have a the catalog as well?
- 53:15Speaker 3: For Japan, they have a pretty solid catalog, and I
- 53:20Speaker 3: know Chris Charlton and Walker Stewart have been adding more
- 53:27Speaker 3: both full English commentary and English like kind of descriptors
- 53:34Speaker 3: about the match, you know, like a brief kind of
- 53:37Speaker 3: synopsis of you know, the history, why the mass is important.
- 53:41Speaker 3: They've been adding that to matches as as of late,
- 53:45Speaker 3: and for World Tag League English commentary throughout must shows,
- 53:50Speaker 3: Walker Stewart, Chris Charlton is there typically for the Tokyo
- 53:57Speaker 3: area shows, and Uh, when he's there, he'll have one
- 54:01Speaker 3: of the wrestlers in the opening tag in one of
- 54:04Speaker 3: the opening tag masses come in and join them for
- 54:07Speaker 3: the league matches.
- 54:09Speaker 2: Right, And of course with New Japan World they do
- 54:13Speaker 2: have an app so if you're on something like Apple
- 54:15Speaker 2: TV or Roku or something of that effect, you can
- 54:19Speaker 2: download it. You can download the app exactly.
- 54:22Speaker 3: Maybe I use the app for that. It's it's very
- 54:26Speaker 3: easy to it's very easy to navigate.
- 54:31Speaker 2: Sign out.
- 54:33Speaker 3: It's fairly easy, though sometimes it it takes a while
- 54:38Speaker 3: to translate the Japanese to English. Right, Yeah, once you
- 54:44Speaker 3: get signed up, you know, you're good.
- 54:46Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean that's one thing that Stardom is
- 54:51Speaker 2: lacking is that they don't have an app, so you
- 54:53Speaker 2: have to literally watch it on your PC. I mean,
- 54:56Speaker 2: you can watch it on your phone by using your
- 54:59Speaker 2: you know, mobile rouser. But they don't have anything to
- 55:03Speaker 2: watch it on TV, which which I think is long
- 55:06Speaker 2: past du And I.
- 55:07Speaker 3: Know, honestly wish they would just you know, bump the
- 55:13Speaker 3: price of New Japan World to like fourteen ninety nine
- 55:18Speaker 3: a month and roll start them in because they're owned
- 55:21Speaker 3: by the same company.
- 55:23Speaker 2: Right, well, the start sole lot more people start, right
- 55:28Speaker 2: I think. I think Startom runs at six ninety nine
- 55:31Speaker 2: a month, So yeah, fifteen ninety nine a month sounds good. Uh,
- 55:37Speaker 2: But like, yeah, I know, I've seen a lot of
- 55:39Speaker 2: people saying about Stardom, you know, that they need an app,
- 55:43Speaker 2: and yeah, I would they just don't.
- 55:46Speaker 3: I would I would watch so many stardom shows if
- 55:49Speaker 3: they you know, roll those into Goosepan World. It's just yeah,
- 55:53Speaker 3: fifteen ninety nine, like you get both because every time
- 55:58Speaker 3: a start a lot of I'm gonna started matches uploaded.
- 56:01Speaker 3: I'll watch it within the week and actually there for
- 56:06Speaker 3: you I need to watch, right, kind of went off
- 56:11Speaker 3: on a weird world Tag League Night five, first four
- 56:17Speaker 3: matches preview the block matches for the next show and
- 56:23Speaker 3: which it's a lot of six man tag for.
- 56:25Speaker 8: Those I know in one.
- 56:27Speaker 3: Yeah, my Russia all the greatest young lion of all time.
- 56:33Speaker 2: Okay, well let's does anybody else have a pop rade?
- 56:37Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd like to piggyback on that.
- 56:39Speaker 7: I just had a thing I just remember.
- 56:41Speaker 3: Uh.
- 56:41Speaker 7: For those of you who have HBO Max, the archives
- 56:46Speaker 7: for a w are now current, So if you wanted to,
- 56:50Speaker 7: you could watch from the first episode of Dynamite two
- 56:54Speaker 7: now if you have the inclination to do so. Plus
- 56:58Speaker 7: the way it's set up, if you start watching at
- 57:01Speaker 7: the first episode of Dynamite and just let it go,
- 57:06Speaker 7: everything's set up in the order.
- 57:07Speaker 3: That it will play, like in order that it'll play Dynamite, Dynamite, Dynamite.
- 57:10Speaker 2: And Okay, So if you have the time, and you
- 57:15Speaker 2: know you are an insomniac and you want to watch
- 57:19Speaker 2: three hundred plus episodes of Dynamite, you could do it
- 57:22Speaker 2: without clicking anything.
- 57:24Speaker 3: There you go, Well, you would have to stop to
- 57:26Speaker 3: put it stop, but.
- 57:29Speaker 2: Oh hell you do. Okay, I don't because I actually
- 57:34Speaker 2: I actually last September attended a Dynamite rampage taping and
- 57:39Speaker 2: I looked on HBO Max on Saturday and it wasn't
- 57:42Speaker 2: there yet. So when did they update this to where
- 57:46Speaker 2: everything all the dynamites are available now?
- 57:49Speaker 4: Not really sure. I just me and my husband were
- 57:52Speaker 4: like a he like he had he had the day
- 57:55Speaker 4: off while he was working from home, but since it's
- 57:57Speaker 4: the holiday week, he didn't really have much to do anyway,
- 58:01Speaker 4: I digress.
- 58:04Speaker 2: Okay, so it was recent that you discovered that.
- 58:06Speaker 4: Yeah, we just noticed it today. I don't know when they.
- 58:08Speaker 2: Did it, Okay, was on Saturday? On Saturday?
- 58:14Speaker 3: Yeah, they were missing like twenty twenty two and twenty
- 58:18Speaker 3: twenty three.
- 58:20Speaker 2: They did have twenty twenty twenty four started in October.
- 58:25Speaker 3: Okay, so they probably had them all where they uploaded
- 58:30Speaker 3: them like a three am on Monday morning, you know
- 58:36Speaker 3: when statistically, the least amount of people would be using
- 58:40Speaker 3: the service. They should put it down to upload a
- 58:43Speaker 3: bunch of new stuff and do updates.
- 58:47Speaker 2: Okay, so anybody else with a potpourri one, go for it.
- 58:54Speaker 6: It's a heavy one, but it needs to be said.
- 58:57Speaker 5: Look, I know a lot of AW fans his love Hook,
- 59:01Speaker 5: but to me, he does not need to be in
- 59:05Speaker 5: main event level matches. He just doesn't cut the mustard
- 59:09Speaker 5: for me. There's a lot of other young stars that
- 59:12Speaker 5: need that spotlight that for some odd reason, Hook keeps
- 59:16Speaker 5: on giving. I like the kid, I want him to improve,
- 59:19Speaker 5: but I think he needs good a ring of honor
- 59:21Speaker 5: and work on himself and be a better wrestler, because
- 59:26Speaker 5: that's what kills me is that's what killed the main
- 59:31Speaker 5: event for me, was just him being in there and yeah.
- 59:39Speaker 2: All of six seconds.
- 59:41Speaker 5: Yeah I get that, But he doesn't need he's not
- 59:46Speaker 5: good enough to hang with the boys.
- 59:47Speaker 6: Why is he in the main event seeing all the time.
- 59:49Speaker 2: Well, the one thing is is that he did rejoin
- 59:51Speaker 2: the ops or never left the ops, And now he's
- 59:55Speaker 2: got three other men, including the trios champions and the
- 1:00:01Speaker 2: AW Men's World champion that has his back now, So
- 1:00:06Speaker 2: maybe he's being protected. You know, you never know.
- 1:00:11Speaker 6: His whole career.
- 1:00:12Speaker 5: Uh true, I can't with somebody, and I just I
- 1:00:18Speaker 5: don't get the love affair Tony has with him.
- 1:00:22Speaker 3: I honestly feel like Cook is tailor made for w
- 1:00:25Speaker 3: W the whole. You know, he's got the look, he's
- 1:00:28Speaker 3: got the aura, he's good enough in the ring. I
- 1:00:33Speaker 3: think he'd be better off there where he doesn't have
- 1:00:38Speaker 3: where it's not where the best wrestle. He could be
- 1:00:42Speaker 3: a tough guy there where he you know, with the
- 1:00:45Speaker 3: cool entrance, the aura of the good enough moves that like.
- 1:00:52Speaker 3: But in the wrestling company, he's just he's just a
- 1:00:58Speaker 3: step behind.
- 1:01:00Speaker 2: Well, here's my potpourri. And this has something to do
- 1:01:04Speaker 2: with full gear. And I said this in the past
- 1:01:07Speaker 2: when it comes to AW I really do believe that
- 1:01:11Speaker 2: when it comes to selling, I really enjoy watching two
- 1:01:16Speaker 2: wrestlers in particular, and that's Kenny Omega and Pack. I
- 1:01:21Speaker 2: love the way they sell. The problem that I run
- 1:01:24Speaker 2: into with them when they do sell is that I
- 1:01:28Speaker 2: really do believe that they're injured. When Pack was selling
- 1:01:33Speaker 2: in his match against Darby Allen, I thought he blew
- 1:01:36Speaker 2: his knee out and I was like, oh crap, here
- 1:01:38Speaker 2: we go again. He's on injured reserve. We won't see
- 1:01:42Speaker 2: Pack for another six seven months, you know. And he
- 1:01:44Speaker 2: was fine. But he's so good at selling that he
- 1:01:47Speaker 2: had me convinced that we all know that Kenny Omega
- 1:01:50Speaker 2: has some very real medical issues and because of that,
- 1:01:55Speaker 2: when he sells, it's, I don't know the best way
- 1:01:59Speaker 2: to put it, it's more impactful and it's worriesome So.
- 1:02:07Speaker 8: Pack and Kenny cut it out. Stop selling, I don't.
- 1:02:14Speaker 8: They're almost exactly.
- 1:02:19Speaker 3: Yeah, I appreciate you as.
- 1:02:26Speaker 2: Yeah. I There's one thing that both Pack and Kenny
- 1:02:30Speaker 2: do is like if they take a super kick or
- 1:02:32Speaker 2: something like that when they're when they're standing up, they
- 1:02:35Speaker 2: have this way of falling where they just like fold,
- 1:02:40Speaker 2: they collapse instead of just falling over. They're they're one
- 1:02:44Speaker 2: egos one way, one legos the other way, and they
- 1:02:47Speaker 2: just kind of should be down in one smooth But
- 1:02:52Speaker 2: I love watching Kenny Omega and Pack sell. It's great,
- 1:02:58Speaker 2: but just stop doing it. That making me think that
- 1:03:01Speaker 2: you're injured. God tries me insane makes me feel like
- 1:03:11Speaker 2: a negative Nancy. It really does, like, well they're out again,
- 1:03:15Speaker 2: you know, Nope, they're not, it's just it is what
- 1:03:18Speaker 2: it is. Before we close out, I do want to
- 1:03:22Speaker 2: give a couple of shout outs here. One is too,
- 1:03:26Speaker 2: I mentioned this a couple of times. Megan Bain is
- 1:03:30Speaker 2: a beast. I mean she's wrestled at full She wrestled
- 1:03:33Speaker 2: at full geared and I think, and then two days
- 1:03:36Speaker 2: later she arrived two hours before a show and wrestled
- 1:03:39Speaker 2: at stardom. She's wrestled. At one point she had wrestled
- 1:03:42Speaker 2: like ten matches in nineteen days on two different continents.
- 1:03:47Speaker 2: That's insane. And she's over in Japan now doing the
- 1:03:52Speaker 2: uh the Goddess of Stardom Tag League over there with
- 1:03:57Speaker 2: her partner Hannekoh. And they were last time I checked,
- 1:04:02Speaker 2: they were undefeated. So they've actually I believe they've actually
- 1:04:06Speaker 2: secured a shot spot in the semi finals. They don't,
- 1:04:11Speaker 2: you know, so they're good to go. The other shout
- 1:04:15Speaker 2: shout out I want to give is to Pro Wrestling Eve.
- 1:04:19Speaker 2: They are on our discord. Will Osprey is the producer
- 1:04:23Speaker 2: of the show. Over since all in weekend, they've had
- 1:04:28Speaker 2: so many aw women's wrestlers on their shows. I mean,
- 1:04:32Speaker 2: you've had Queen Amanada, Sky Blue Julia Hart, Chris Statlander,
- 1:04:37Speaker 2: who is their international champion, Nyla Rose who was until
- 1:04:43Speaker 2: the last month. They're women's champion. Gosh, who else has
- 1:04:51Speaker 2: been over there? I'm sure I'm missing somebody. Coming up
- 1:04:58Speaker 2: on December fifth, you'll see they have another show coming
- 1:05:02Speaker 2: up at Pro Wrestling Eve and they have Emmy Sakia
- 1:05:08Speaker 2: will be there. Oh will All Nightingale was at the
- 1:05:10Speaker 2: last show. I'm sorry, I can't believe I missed that.
- 1:05:13Speaker 2: And Jamie Hayter will be returning to Pro Wrestling Eve.
- 1:05:17Speaker 2: Pro Wrestling Eve is where Jamie Hayter and Alex Windsor
- 1:05:21Speaker 2: came to AW from. Basically, Pro Wrestling Leve is a
- 1:05:27Speaker 2: very it's a women's promotion, very interesting, really fun matches,
- 1:05:34Speaker 2: really fun to see. You can they You can watch
- 1:05:38Speaker 2: them on December fifth at three point fifteen pm Eastern
- 1:05:42Speaker 2: Time on their YouTube channel. They put their pay per
- 1:05:45Speaker 2: views on their YouTube channel. It does cost nine a month. However,
- 1:05:50Speaker 2: for nine a month, you do get a very extensive
- 1:05:55Speaker 2: Pro Wrestling Eve catalog, so you can watch jam Hayter
- 1:05:59Speaker 2: and Alex Windsor in their old Pro Wrestling Eve matches
- 1:06:04Speaker 2: and their shows are they're special. I mean there's no
- 1:06:09Speaker 2: other way to describe it. I mean, they have great wrestling,
- 1:06:13Speaker 2: the crowds are boisterous, and then they have two burlesque performers,
- 1:06:21Speaker 2: which is kind of misplaced, but they do burlesque shows
- 1:06:24Speaker 2: in the middle of the wrestling show. They do an intermission,
- 1:06:28Speaker 2: so you don't have to wait for your bathroom break,
- 1:06:31Speaker 2: they give you one. So yeah, so check out Pro
- 1:06:35Speaker 2: Wrestling Eve. I think you'll be entertained. And they're friends
- 1:06:40Speaker 2: of ours, and just give them a shot. That's all
- 1:06:44Speaker 2: I have to say about it. Give them a shot,
- 1:06:48Speaker 2: all right.
- 1:06:48Speaker 3: So we.
- 1:06:50Speaker 2: Are going to wrap things up. This has been aw
- 1:06:54Speaker 2: Panhobbs Ignition will be back, of course next week at
- 1:06:59Speaker 2: eight forty five Eastern. We we uh broadcast live on
- 1:07:04Speaker 2: x and we broadcast live on Twitch. Soon we'll be
- 1:07:08Speaker 2: we will be broadcasting on YouTube. We're just waiting for
- 1:07:11Speaker 2: approval and uh tomorrow night, aw Dynamite. Is that just
- 1:07:18Speaker 2: a regular two hour show? Does anybody know?
- 1:07:21Speaker 3: I believe it is?
- 1:07:22Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, but it's the it's Thanksgiving Eve, so
- 1:07:28Speaker 2: we may or may not do just depending on you know,
- 1:07:31Speaker 2: the podcast team. We may or may not do all
- 1:07:34Speaker 2: the talk, which is our post Dynamite review show. It's
- 1:07:37Speaker 2: a very quick show. We get everything done in a
- 1:07:40Speaker 2: in a half hour or less. Generally it's been twenty
- 1:07:44Speaker 2: minutes or less. It's really fun, but we'll decide on that.
- 1:07:48Speaker 2: So keep up, keep your eyes open on X and whatnot.
- 1:07:54Speaker 2: We will announce whether we're doing the show sometime tomorrow afternoon.
- 1:07:58Speaker 2: All right, So for the aw Fanam podcast team, thank
- 1:08:02Speaker 2: you m K Time and Jess for coming tonight. This
- 1:08:05Speaker 2: is Kelson. Good night everybody. Yeah, Happy Thanksgiving to all
- 1:08:11Speaker 2: and to all well that's not the right holiday.
- 1:08:16Speaker 1: See you