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Joel Klatt’s Predicts OL or TE at No.24 | 2023 NFL Draft | Jacksonville Jaguars · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Sitting at a unique position at twenty four, a unique
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  Speaker 1: because they haven't been there in a while. Say like
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  Speaker 1: this is.
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  Speaker 2: It's almost like a welcome occurrence, right. Jack's like, Hey,
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  Speaker 2: we don't have a top ten pick exactly.
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  Speaker 1: So what they do have is a position where there
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  Speaker 1: are defensive backs and offensive tackles and tight ends, all
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  Speaker 1: positions of need. Will there be value at twenty forty
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  Speaker 1: you suppose? So, yes, I think all of those positions. Now,
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  Speaker 1: having said that, I do think that there's going to
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  Speaker 1: be a run on the top tackles ahead of them.
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  Speaker 2: So if they wanted one of those guys or coveted
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  Speaker 2: one of those guys, and I'm talking about Paris Johnson
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  Speaker 2: and Broderick Jones and Darnell Wright, if they coveted one
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  Speaker 2: of those guys, they might have to move up, but
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  Speaker 2: they don't have to move up to get what they need.
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  Speaker 2: You talked about corner, you talked about tight end. All
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  Speaker 2: of those players I think will be there. I think
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  Speaker 2: of Michael Mayer from Notre Dame could be there for
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  Speaker 2: them at tight end. If not, you look at a
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  Speaker 2: Luke Musgrave, he's interesting, or a Sam Laporta from Iowa,
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  Speaker 2: and then at corner. If you look at that board
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  Speaker 2: of the draft, I think Joey Porter Junior would be
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  Speaker 2: available to them as well as maybe a Annuel Forbes
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  Speaker 2: or Deontay Banks. And those are the players I think
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  Speaker 2: that you if they're drafting for those specific areas, those
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  Speaker 2: are the players that you'd be talking about. And then
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  Speaker 2: the last name I would I would say is Anton
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  Speaker 2: Harrison is a tackle from Oklahoma that is getting a
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  Speaker 2: lot more love late in this process than I anticipated.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the question I have is when the top
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  Speaker 1: tackles drop, when Paris Johnson has gone off the board
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  Speaker 1: and Scarronsky from Northwestern, how far is the drop off
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  Speaker 1: to that next level?
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  Speaker 2: You know, Projerck Jones is going to be valued fairly high.
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  Speaker 2: I think Darnell right as well. Even though Darnell didn't
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  Speaker 2: have the best career overall after being highly recruited, he
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  Speaker 2: was really good last year after he moved to right tackle.
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  Speaker 2: Protecting Trevor Lawrence is really important. And I was even
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  Speaker 2: doing this exercise the other day with a buddy of mine.
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  Speaker 2: He's like, look at the quarterbacks in the AFC, and
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  Speaker 2: it's it's crazy right now. So when you're thinking about
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  Speaker 2: what do we need? The better question is how do
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  Speaker 2: we make Trevory like the best possible version of himself
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  Speaker 2: because he's gonna have to be great at some moment
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  Speaker 2: in order to continue to move up and go to
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  Speaker 2: the playoffs and move on in the playoffs. That's why
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  Speaker 2: I think that offensive line or tight end is probably
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  Speaker 2: the direction that they go there. There are some corners
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  Speaker 2: later in the draft that I think, you know they
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  Speaker 2: could pick up, but you know, we'll see you.
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  Speaker 1: Mentioned Mayor and Musgrave. Dalton Kinkaid is another name. The
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  Speaker 1: tight end class is deep. I'm just I'm not to
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  Speaker 1: interrupt you. I just don't think Kinkaid is going to
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  Speaker 1: be there, So that's why I didn't mention his name.
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  Speaker 1: He's the tight end that most teams have number one
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  Speaker 1: on their board. It goes deep maybe into the second
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  Speaker 1: and third round though, or would you say that if
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  Speaker 1: you're really trying to help Trevor and the offensive tackles
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  Speaker 1: are gone, take the best tight end when you're a
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  Speaker 1: twenty four.
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  Speaker 2: Listen like I, If Michael Mahyer is there, that's a
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  Speaker 2: really good pick. He's a hell of a player. He
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  Speaker 2: helps you in the run game, great route runner, catches
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  Speaker 2: the ball very well, highly productive on an offense in
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  Speaker 2: which he was the main focal point. You know, there
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  Speaker 2: are tight ends that get a lot of production, but
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  Speaker 2: it's like, oh, they have a great wide receiver in
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  Speaker 2: a good running game and they kind of like game
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  Speaker 2: plan their way into production. Sam Laporta and Michael Mahyer
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  Speaker 2: were the focal point of bad offenses and every eyeball
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  Speaker 2: on the defense was on those two guys third down
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  Speaker 2: in particular, and they still produced. That's why I like
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  Speaker 2: Mayor a lot. You know, if he's there, that could
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  Speaker 2: be an interesting pick.
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  Speaker 1: We started this talking about the Jags being a twenty four,
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  Speaker 1: where they haven't been last year. They took Trevon Walker,
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  Speaker 1: they got solid production from him. What would you expect
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  Speaker 1: his next step to be.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, when you take him number one, you've got
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  Speaker 2: to become one of the elite pass rushers in the league.
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  Speaker 2: And this is why, I mean, I hate to say it,
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  Speaker 2: like it was a bit of a disappointment seeing some
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  Speaker 2: of the other rookies, what Sas Gardner was doing, what
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  Speaker 2: Aiden Hutchinson was doing in particular, because that was kind
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  Speaker 2: of the debate, was Travon and Aiden and seeing what
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  Speaker 2: Aiden did in Detroit. Listen, Dramnon's a great player. What
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  Speaker 2: they want from him is to become one of the
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  Speaker 2: lead well not just because he was the number one
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  Speaker 2: overall pick, but because of all the quarterbacks you have
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  Speaker 2: to face in the AFC. When you're facing guys in
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  Speaker 2: the playoffs like Mahomes and Burrow and Josh Allen and
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  Speaker 2: now Aaron Rodgers and all these like you have got
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  Speaker 2: to get to the quarterback. So the next step for
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  Speaker 2: him is become in the pass rusher.
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  Speaker 1: And then the same thought on obviously Trevor and what
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  Speaker 1: he was able to do from year one, which was
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  Speaker 1: a disaster, to year two and what you might see
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  Speaker 1: in year three.
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  Speaker 2: I love Trevor like people. I don't know if they
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  Speaker 2: wrote him off, but we all forget about him because
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  Speaker 2: of how awful that first year was. This guy is
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  Speaker 2: unbelievably good. He could easily become one of the best two, three,
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  Speaker 2: four quarterbacks in the entire league. And that's saying something
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  Speaker 2: because right now the quarterback position is as strong longest
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  Speaker 2: it's been in a long time in this league, and
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  Speaker 2: he's right up there at the top. I believe that
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  Speaker 2: by the time we end his third year, fourth year,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to start talking about him in that same,
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  Speaker 2: like burrough esque caliber,