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Corner at 17? Trevor Sikkema and Pete Prisco Analyze Jaguars Must Haves | Jaguars Happy Hour · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 4: You know what that music reminded me of? When we
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  Speaker 4: did our playoff show.
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  Speaker 2: Oh we didn't do any Oh that that didn't happen
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  Speaker 2: over here.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome moving away, Yeah, coming in, I'm.
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  Speaker 5: Doing away for thirty years.
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  Speaker 3: And good afternoon. Peace.
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  Speaker 4: It's up guys after combine, Yeah combine? How many is
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  Speaker 4: this for us now?
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  Speaker 5: But for you it's a few more than me. For me,
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  Speaker 5: I think it's twenty third. My first one was oh one,
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  Speaker 5: and then there wasn't one one year, but beyond that
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  Speaker 5: and then everyone, I'm probably thank you started going ninety five.
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  Speaker 4: Right ninety four, I think, yeah, so yeah you're twenty eight.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe you're pushing thirty. Yeah, pushing seven, you're pushing thirty.
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  Speaker 3: Change a whole lot.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it used to be in the Holiday inn
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  Speaker 4: over there when we first started coming, and there were
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  Speaker 4: about they bring players down and you did interview them
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  Speaker 4: in the holiday in. I asked for him and they
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  Speaker 4: were about fifteen guys.
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  Speaker 5: Way when, amazingly enough, it was in one my first
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  Speaker 5: There were no podium accesses in that room. It had
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  Speaker 5: grown dramatically, my first one, and they didn't know they
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  Speaker 5: had no GMS, no head coaches. I told the story
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  Speaker 5: my only year covering for the newspaper because you had
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  Speaker 5: left and I hadn't left yet. I spent all week
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  Speaker 5: trying to find Coughlin, right, and I finally interviewed him.
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  Speaker 5: He was coming out of Catholic Mass on Saturday evening,
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  Speaker 5: and of course he sees me, he goes, oh, sure
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  Speaker 5: you so. But that's the difference. You didn't have days
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  Speaker 5: where you got your guys. You went around trying to
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  Speaker 5: find your guys, and if you got him, you got
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  Speaker 5: a little bit of news nugget and you wrote it.
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  Speaker 5: But it wasn't like this press conference and and get
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  Speaker 5: off my lawn.
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  Speaker 4: JP, Right. They made it a lot easier, or.
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  Speaker 5: Makes it easier now. Yes, it also sanitizes a little
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  Speaker 5: bit where it's different, as it's all different, and I
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  Speaker 5: know I a ton to get in the show, but
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  Speaker 5: I kind of wonder, I think a theme for me
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  Speaker 5: this week. I'm not sure this thing looks the same
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  Speaker 5: in five years. I think it's going to decrease in
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  Speaker 5: impact dramatically with coaches not coming. Yeah, and with you know,
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  Speaker 5: Trent Balke's mentioned a couple of days ago with teams
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  Speaker 5: using more GPS for timing and whatnot. The impact of
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  Speaker 5: what you do on the field here. I think it's
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  Speaker 5: gonna change. I'm not sure it's gonna be the big deal.
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  Speaker 4: You know how I always felt about it. I always
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  Speaker 4: thought that this was the most overrated thing going because
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  Speaker 4: if the tape says something, why should this, Why should
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  Speaker 4: this change the way you evaluate them based on what
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  Speaker 4: they do. And I'll give you an example today. The
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  Speaker 4: kid from Florida State, Braden Fisk, is a big time player.
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  Speaker 4: When you watch his tape, he's all over the place
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  Speaker 4: today ran four seven eight at three pounds. But forget
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  Speaker 4: puts out of science because he's a good football, you know.
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  Speaker 4: And so I think we get too caught up in
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  Speaker 4: this stuff.
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  Speaker 5: Well, and I think once to me, the fact that
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  Speaker 5: the GPS numbers are coming in. Once they have something
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  Speaker 5: else they can rely on that they don't have to
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  Speaker 5: trust their judgment, right, But once they have something else
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  Speaker 5: that on paper can say it, then I think they
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  Speaker 5: will do away with or not do away, but it'll
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  Speaker 5: it'll decrease in value. And if the coach that aren't coming,
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  Speaker 5: but you're not going to have.
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  Speaker 4: This medicals, they don't have the workouts and everything, it's
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  Speaker 4: not going to be like.
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  Speaker 5: It's gonna be different very sel and that's unique JP,
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  Speaker 5: because nothing in the league.
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  Speaker 3: Shrinks, if anything, So.
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  Speaker 5: It'll be interesting to see if they try to keep
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  Speaker 5: it propped up by making coaches common talks shrunk well,
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  Speaker 5: but in terms of what they want on TV and
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  Speaker 5: circus type atmosphere, they don't like that shrinking. But this
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  Speaker 5: might get out of their Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, for the coaches and gms that speak, this is
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  Speaker 2: really the beginning of the twenty four off season.
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  Speaker 3: And season ahead.
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  Speaker 2: The league year begins March thirteenth, couple of weeks away,
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  Speaker 2: but it's the first time you'll hear gms and coaches
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  Speaker 2: going into this next season. So hearing Peterson and Balky
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  Speaker 2: the other day, would you take away from their first
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  Speaker 2: interaction with the media this offseason.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I think they're being a little stubborn with the
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  Speaker 4: offensive line. If they really think that those five guys
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  Speaker 4: are going to be the same five guys, and.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think they do. I think they're just sort
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  Speaker 5: of not wanting to tell people what they're going to do,
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  Speaker 5: and I think they're not wanting to criticize their own
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  Speaker 5: guys too.
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  Speaker 4: Hardy changes how many guys are starting from me from
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  Speaker 4: that line that end of the year are starting next year.
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  Speaker 3: Well, the math is the tackles, the tackles will play.
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  Speaker 5: If to me the other day, unless I'm just completely
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  Speaker 5: misreading it, Cam's coming back. That's what it sounded like.
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  Speaker 4: Cams.
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  Speaker 5: That sounds like they want right we left.
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  Speaker 4: It sounds like they want Cleveland too.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, so I would think. I mean, I don't think
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  Speaker 5: Sheriff comes back because the cap number. I don't think
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  Speaker 5: he's coming back. I'd be stunned. Not because he's a
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  Speaker 5: bad player, no, but I think it's okay, right, But
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  Speaker 5: if he had a smaller cap number, you could make
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  Speaker 5: that work. I think the X factor is it's tough
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  Speaker 5: to know what they're going to do with Fortner because
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  Speaker 5: they speak highly of them.
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  Speaker 4: I don't understand that.
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  Speaker 5: As much as he struggled at times, I.
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  Speaker 4: Don't understand that. So look, you don't want to trash
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  Speaker 4: the kid in public, but the reality is you got
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  Speaker 4: to sit there and say, hey, we're looking to make
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  Speaker 4: changes on the interior or Buffales the line they are,
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  Speaker 4: they have to be. You can't get you can't get
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  Speaker 4: away with what you put on the field last year.
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  Speaker 5: So probably three stay the same three.
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  Speaker 4: At the most. If they bring Cleveland back. If they
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  Speaker 4: don't bring Cleveland back, then it's going to be two. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So the interior of the offensive line could all be
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  Speaker 4: new next year, could be the theory.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: It's a lot of change, that's all. But it needs
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  Speaker 4: to be changed. It needs to happen. The quarterback was
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  Speaker 4: sped up. He didn't trust the interior of the offensive line,
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  Speaker 4: and because of that, he didn't play well. So it
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  Speaker 4: has to change. You have to change the offensive line.
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  Speaker 4: You have to get tougher. You gotta get nasty. There's
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  Speaker 4: no nasty. Where's the nasty, right? I mean, you gotta
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  Speaker 4: be nasty. You have to be Do you ever get
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  Speaker 4: the feeling when you watch them that they're nasty? Violent?
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  Speaker 4: To get after it?
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  Speaker 3: There's a little cam Robinson had some of that.
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  Speaker 4: He did.
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  Speaker 5: He does know he has a little bit of it,
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  Speaker 5: and I think Anton can have it as he at
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  Speaker 5: correct as he matures, gains more confidence on the feeling.
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  Speaker 5: You gotta come out.
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  Speaker 4: But you know you needed in the middle of that
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  Speaker 4: line too, and and you also need on the other
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  Speaker 4: side of the middle of that line.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go to defense now, new defensive coordinator coming in,
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  Speaker 2: and you know we'll see there's a lot of big
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  Speaker 2: contracts in that defensive line that are going to be
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  Speaker 2: tough to get out on.
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  Speaker 4: And they probably shouldn't have given out last year, but
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  Speaker 4: they did, and that was probably a mistake. You know,
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  Speaker 4: the Roy robertson Harris Deel that that look you look
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  Speaker 4: at it on paper right now, they probably wish they
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  Speaker 4: didn't do that. I mean, that's the honest assessment of it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, Devine's a tricky because and he played well enough
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  Speaker 5: late in twenty two to earn it.
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  Speaker 4: I think he was going to have a big year
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  Speaker 4: because cover in camp he was dominant his back thing.
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  Speaker 4: Then he had the back injury and he lost all
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  Speaker 4: that weight and he got pushed around. He probably rushed
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  Speaker 4: him back onto the field at times, or he rushed
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  Speaker 4: back onto the field. He wasn't the same player. But
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  Speaker 4: you're right, he gets the weight back, he'll be fine.
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  Speaker 5: Right and then Fookasi see you. Yeah, it's a tough
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  Speaker 5: one because it's not a glaring cap savings to do it,
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  Speaker 5: But if you don't change something, then you're not changing anything.
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  Speaker 5: So and they need to get better and then you.
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  Speaker 4: Save about three or four million off of that, doesn't It.
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  Speaker 5: Was Yeah, but you're still paying what ten million dead cap,
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  Speaker 5: which is a lot.
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  Speaker 4: I'm paying somebody not to work. That might be the
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  Speaker 4: best interest for them in that position.
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  Speaker 5: It's uh, well it's the old thing. You've got to
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  Speaker 5: get better on the interior. And if you stick with
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  Speaker 5: all three that you've got, then how do you get
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  Speaker 5: better on the interior.
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  Speaker 4: And here's how they'll they'll just if they justified that,
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  Speaker 4: they'd say, well, the cap savings on Photocosi, so we
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  Speaker 4: kept them. H Hamilton's coming back off the injury, so
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  Speaker 4: he'll be better, and Roy Roberts and Harris we pay him.
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  Speaker 4: We can't do anything with them, So that's how they'll
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  Speaker 4: justify it. They need I disagree. I think Photocosi needs
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  Speaker 4: to go, and I think they need to get somebody
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  Speaker 4: in there that's going to be a nasty, tough, physical player.
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  Speaker 4: Particularly what are they gonna do playing four man front?
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  Speaker 4: How do you play that?
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  Speaker 3: Now?
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  Speaker 4: Right? That's what he plays, you know.
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  Speaker 5: And if you do that, you can justify it because
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  Speaker 5: if you do that, then you have to add and
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  Speaker 5: you have to have more more bodies than what they've got,
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  Speaker 5: so you can rotate.
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  Speaker 4: Right, So I think I think they have to make changes.
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  Speaker 2: It's Jaguars Happy, are on tension Excel, Jaguars dot Com,
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  Speaker 2: it's time for keeping it real.
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  Speaker 4: We always keep it real. We always do.
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  Speaker 2: This though, is about the draft at number seventeen. If
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  Speaker 2: you're picking today, the Jaguars are there at seventeen, They're
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  Speaker 2: on the clock, trip, Balky's on the phone.
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  Speaker 3: Who are they calling it?
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  Speaker 4: What have I done in free agency? See?
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  Speaker 5: That's what's hard to do that, especially first round. It
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  Speaker 5: makes it hard. The rest of the draft.
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  Speaker 4: You can sort of right, you can get around. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you first round, like.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, where's your last Have you done a mock? You
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  Speaker 3: haven't done.
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  Speaker 4: No, I haven't done a mock yet. But if I did.
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  Speaker 4: If I had to pick two positions, it would be
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  Speaker 4: an interior offensive lineman in a corner. That's what I
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  Speaker 4: would I would look at. I mean, you have to
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  Speaker 4: get a corner. The way they play their defense, and
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  Speaker 4: they're gonna different, theyre gonna play more man. Now I
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  Speaker 4: would assume, uh, you know, so, I think you have
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  Speaker 4: to get a corner at some point, and there's a
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  Speaker 4: good corner. It's not a great corner draft in terms
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  Speaker 4: of there's no elite guys, but there's a lot of
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  Speaker 4: good ones in there. You know, the two Alabama kids,
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  Speaker 4: I think, you know, the one is better. I think
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  Speaker 4: Arnold's a better player. I think when you look at
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  Speaker 4: the kid from from Toledo is a good play, really
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  Speaker 4: good player. The corner from Missouri, Raxtraw is a good player.
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  Speaker 5: And Nate Wagan's is still there.
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  Speaker 4: So he's didn't tackle though, that's a problem with him.
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  Speaker 4: But but I like him. Yeah, but he also yeah, right,
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  Speaker 4: you need to tackle back. You need to tackle more
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  Speaker 4: back then. But I think corner or center, and you know,
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  Speaker 4: the center from Oregon is really good. He's a good player.
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  Speaker 4: I'd be that's high for a second.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, A couple of draft guys we've had on and said,
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  Speaker 5: you better be special, special special if you're a center
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  Speaker 5: at seventeen. Maybe he is. And even if you are,
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  Speaker 5: can you get that player? And I would not blink,
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  Speaker 5: And I if they found disruption on the interior of
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  Speaker 5: the defense, wouldn't bother me a bit to go that route.
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  Speaker 5: I think the good news for him is you're gonna
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  Speaker 5: have good offensive lineman if if if you want to
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  Speaker 5: get a guard there, you're gonna have somebody who can
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  Speaker 5: play that position, maybe kick outside. Well, but if you
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  Speaker 5: had a guy who could play guard, and then Cam's
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  Speaker 5: not gonna be here forever, even he's back next year.
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  Speaker 5: But I think, okay, I think you can go wrong.
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  Speaker 4: Who plays corner.
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  Speaker 5: Well right now? Tyson and uh yeah, uh.
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  Speaker 3: You gotta have three Johnson.
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  Speaker 4: I think he's going to be a starting safety.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I get I don't think Antonio as much of
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  Speaker 5: people talk about it as a nickel. He's more of
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  Speaker 5: a nickel safety.
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  Speaker 4: He's a safety than he is, and I think he
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  Speaker 4: could be a starting safety. I think he's gonna be
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  Speaker 4: the starting safety.
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  Speaker 5: I'd be kind of surprised if he doesn't start safety
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  Speaker 5: next right.
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  Speaker 4: So, I think he's the starting safety. So you can't
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  Speaker 4: make him the nickel. I mean, he could play something.
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  Speaker 4: He could drop him down and play him the nickle,
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  Speaker 4: but he's the starting safety.
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  Speaker 5: But then that brings up the issue we were talking
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  Speaker 5: to Bucky Brooks earlier today. When you draft a third
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  Speaker 5: corner and you're clearly if they're taking a third corner
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  Speaker 5: at seventeen this year, you're thinking that he's going to
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  Speaker 5: be a starter on the outside for the long term. Correct,
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  Speaker 5: does his skill set fit being a nickel for a year,
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  Speaker 5: because nickel could be hard to play, right, and you
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  Speaker 5: need experience, you need savvy guy in there, and you
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  Speaker 5: also cover guy doesn't always do it well.
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  Speaker 4: And you also and we know they tried that Williams
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  Speaker 4: inside the experiment that was a disaster.
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  Speaker 5: So yeah, it's not that it's not doable. It's just
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  Speaker 5: not as easy as Hey, we're gonna have this guy
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  Speaker 5: playing nickel this year and then kick out.
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  Speaker 4: See, I think you can get by if they can
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  Speaker 4: get a veteran nickel. But Darius Williams and Tyson Campbell didn't.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, Darius Williams played well last year, but that
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  Speaker 4: money he's getting high, right, And Tyson Campbell did not
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  Speaker 4: play well last year.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, a little bit.
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  Speaker 5: I think with Tyson the hamstring, you almost have to
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  Speaker 5: trust that he's better than he played last year, right,
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  Speaker 5: because of your the way you're structured your team. He
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  Speaker 5: was better in twenty two than he was in twenty three.
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  Speaker 5: It's almost like with Trevor, I have to trust that
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  Speaker 5: he's a better player than he showed when he was
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  Speaker 5: injured to the end of last season. I've got to
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  Speaker 5: trust if I'm building this team, that Tyson Campbell can
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  Speaker 5: play better he did last year and it was mostly hamstring.
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  Speaker 4: You know, there's been talk of another pass rusher coming
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  Speaker 4: at some point in free agency, and if I keep
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  Speaker 4: hearing that, does that mean they're moving they're considering moving
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  Speaker 4: Walker to defensive tackle, playing that four to three because
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  Speaker 4: if he had If that's the case, then you need
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  Speaker 4: a big body next a big, big body next to him,
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  Speaker 4: and so you could get one of those guys in
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  Speaker 4: the second round. They get the three hundred and sixty
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  Speaker 4: six pound kid from Texas. You know, he's a monster
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  Speaker 4: in the middle, and he's only a two down guy.
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  Speaker 4: You get him in the second round, and then you'd
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  Speaker 4: have Walker. If you. I'm just saying if you, because
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  Speaker 4: there's been some theory out there about going to get
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  Speaker 4: another pass rusher because Walker. I I'm look, Walker had
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  Speaker 4: ten and a half sacks last year, right, But he's
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  Speaker 4: not a great edge rusher. He's just not. He's a
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  Speaker 4: good tough football player, and I think inside he could
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  Speaker 4: become a good tough football player who becomes a dominant
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  Speaker 4: inside player. Put on fifteen pounds and he can play
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  Speaker 4: in there in that defensive scheme up the field, the
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  Speaker 4: way Nielsen plays, I think he could be a good
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  Speaker 4: inside player, but I don't think they're gonna do that.
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  Speaker 4: That's just me playing GM.
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  Speaker 5: But is he not a good four to three and.
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  Speaker 4: He's not a great pass rusher. He's a good four
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  Speaker 4: to three. And because he's a good football player, he's
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  Speaker 4: a tough.
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  Speaker 5: Kid, he plays hard. I think he's outstanding and I
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  Speaker 5: don't it if he gets eight sacks for me, I
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  Speaker 5: think he's impact. I think he's great, but.
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  Speaker 4: A lot of those are coming on and like things
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  Speaker 4: where guy falls into him and you know, I mean,
• 15:03
  Speaker 4: don't get me wrong. Josh Allen had three in the
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: opening or three in the open.
• 15:06
  Speaker 5: The end of last year. I thought Trayvon sacks were
• 15:08
  Speaker 5: pretty legit.
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's got better. We got to get credit for that.
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: He got better. But I just think he could be
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: I think he could be Klais Campbell if he moved inside.
• 15:16
  Speaker 5: And he's Kalais Campbell. He's a good pick.
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: Final thoughts with Repete, I know you get a run.
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: Where are you on the Josh Allen and Calvin Ridley situation?
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: Make sure Josh Allen doesn't get out the building, you
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: have to and that means if that means a tag,
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: you tag him. I would try and get that done
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: and then work on Ridley. But I think Ridley wants
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: to come back. I think really had problem with the
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: offense last year. He was rusty. He didn't learn the offense.
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: You could tell he didn't know the plays all the time.
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: He admitted that. I think in some interview after the season.
• 15:45
  Speaker 5: He he he sure talked like that was the case.
• 15:49
  Speaker 5: I don't know if he out and outset it, but
• 15:52
  Speaker 5: there were indications that he knows he could know it better.
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: There were times when you looked at Ridley and went, whoa,
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: And then there were other times you looked at Ridley
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: and he goes, what is he doing? And I don't know,
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: the fact that he didn't know the offense all the
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: time made him look disinterested at times, and I don't
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: know that's the case. I don't think that's the case.
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: But when you don't know the offense, you play slower,
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: and he's a faster. In training camp, he was killing
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: dudes and he seemed like he was all in, fast
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: into and then you can see during the season he
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: just didn't look like the same guy. I think a
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: year in the offense would be good for him.
• 16:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think he I think he knows that
• 16:27
  Speaker 5: and believes it in his agent's telling him he can
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: get six million more somewhere else. It's a different thing.
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: Then I'll start learning another offense.
• 16:35
  Speaker 5: But I do think that. To me. The thing you
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: always have to remember with Calvin is there are times
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: that he is so special that you can't cover him.
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: You don't always find that everywhere correct.
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: I would, I would let that get out to do it.
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: I'd keep both of them by the way. I do
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: everything in my power to keep both of them, and
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: so I think they will do that. Here's the other thing.
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: If Calvin goes out the door, then you might have
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: to think receiver at seventeen, you really do.
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: My thing with receivers start to become. It's so deep
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: every year and so many guys can play it. I
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: think receiver is gonna get the value in the draft
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: over time. There's so many guys who can come up
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: and play. But it's the second round. Rug guys, though,
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: do you think you're gonna get the guy at seventeen?
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: That guy is going at four?
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: Right? Yeah?
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: The guy, the guy.
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: Yes, every offense needs the guy. If you have the guy,
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: you you're going to be special. Right Yeah, but you
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: get and harrisoner to the guys, right.
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: Then you need somebody who can at least scare you
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: the way that Calvin did. And there were times I've
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: said it over and over again. There were two or
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: three games that I'm not sure they win if he's
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: not on the field, and I'm not sure's anybody else
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: in the team. Said for Josh Allen, you can say
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: it's another question.
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: I mean the other thing about the offense latter, how
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: many times were the three receivers healthy and together at
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: one point during the season.
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: Only only a few games when Zay was healthy early
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: because beyond that he really wasn't healthy after about Buffalo,
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: I think would be fair. Uh so probably week one, yeah, realistically,
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: because they got hurt White against the Chiefs in one
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: of those first two games, either Chiefs or Houston, and
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: then he was they was there the same after not
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: two week two, So.
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: I think healthy, that's still a decent, pretty decent and
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: good enough group. It's a good enough group and particularly
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: Fridley knows the offense next year, then they could be
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: good enough. Throwing the football ingram gives them the other dimension.
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: They look the tight end from Penn State. He needs
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: to pick it up. That was a right now on surface,
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: there were a million tight ends with caught balls last
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: year and he was one of them. Who didn't you
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: know rookies. I'm talking about rookie tight ends. Green Bay
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: had two of them catching beast and they didn't get
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: anything out of him.
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: If they resigned, really I think they should. Boy, they
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: got a line him. A lot of money wrapped up
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: in this four seas a yeah, and that won't last forever.
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: I mean, that would probably be the last year you
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: could go forward with that group because it's hard to
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: have that much cap room with those four guys. But
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: I'm not saying it's bad. I'm saying over time you
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: probably want more of a balance of cap and then
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: a rookie coming up.
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: But if you have all that money in those receivers
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: and you actually gonna have to pay the quarterback, right,
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: you better be good in front of them.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: That's true.
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: I mean you have to. They also didn't run the
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: ball very well last year.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: By the way, Pete always going to see you. Thanks
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: for the time.
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: Great guys, Pete Prisco, our favorite.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: We start off the show with the best. That's what happened.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: That's what happened.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: You're done, Pete Prisco, CBS Sports teen writer Plenty I had.
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  Speaker 5: But then your thoughts, well, look what happened in Atlanta,
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• 20:20
  Speaker 7: I mean, obviously, like you know, Saints the pedigree is there,
• 20:24
  Speaker 7: the right pieces. But I don't know if last year
• 20:27
  Speaker 7: this time Atlanta fans were thinking, like, you know, our
• 20:30
  Speaker 7: defense is actually going to be like one of the
• 20:32
  Speaker 7: strongest that we've seen in quite some time. I don't
• 20:35
  Speaker 7: think people were saying that the middle of that defense
• 20:38
  Speaker 7: was very very like they understood the assignment and it
• 20:42
  Speaker 7: worked out right. Thet's find of the defense was right.
• 20:47
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  Speaker 2: Health and Performance and doctor Kevin Kaplan were supposed to
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  Speaker 2: join us here, but they couldn't get back in this
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  Speaker 2: credentialed area. They had the wrong credential something they were
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: in here earlier. I don't know what happened. They were
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: at the door trying to come in. But Jeff Fergers matter.
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: If you went an award around here, JP, I guess
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: so always certain people get credenned.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: It's so busy in here, let me tell you so. Unfortunately,
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: we will not get to them today. We'll get to
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: them a little bit later in the coming weeks. But
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: congratulations in order to Jeff Ferguson.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: He won the in Kine Memorial Award.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: For Outstanding NFL Athletic Trainer of the Year that's given
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: out by the NFL Physicians Society. The awards ceremony was
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: last night here at the Combine. We saw the Jaguars
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: Medical group out about it dinner last night after that
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: ceremony and wide smiles all around him and congratulations to
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Fergie well done.
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and a lot of people in Jacksonville know Fergie
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: because he's the kind of guy who knows everybody. If
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: you don't, what a terrific guy. And the award the
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: Faint Kane is the I don't call it a lifetime
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: achievement because that sort of implies that you're gonna retire
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: the next year, and I don't think for he's planning
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: to do that. But it is an award given. It's
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: a Trainer of the Year, but it's an award given
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: by the trainers who you know, to the most respected,
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: best of the best of their profession. I don't I'm
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: not in their profession, so I can't speak personally, but
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: everybody will tell you he is one of the best,
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: one of the best guys going. And you know, anybody
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: who knows him couldn't be happier for him.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, a long career before the Jaguars, of course, to
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: the San Francisco forty nine ers and started with them
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: in twenty eleven. He was with the XFL a long,
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: long time ago as well the previous XFL, so he's
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: been at this for a long time. But Fergie with
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: a great award and we'll hopefully in the coming weeks
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: have him on Jaguars Happy Hour to discuss certain aspects
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: of that award and.
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: If his cindential works in our building, I mean, we'll see.
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: Who knows. I mean, it's day to day, right, you
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: could be a trend, so bad news for you.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: We're interested, obviously in hearing from doctor Kevin Kaplan about
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: the medical aspect of the combine here, and he came
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: in earlier for another conversation that we didn't get him yet,
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: and he was talking about polking and product on prospects
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: almost all day long. It's it's never really an ending
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: process here.
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: Well, I think people who have followed the NFL have
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: probably heard the importance of the medical here, but people
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: who haven't. The combine originally started. It grew out of
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: the need to have as many players as possible in
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: one spot for an extended period of time, so that
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: as many team physicians as possible could get into this
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: one spot and make all these checks, make checking them
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: out physically, so that you didn't have players flying all
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: over the country, meeting with every team. So that's always
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: been the heart of it. It is a big reason
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: why the combine. You know, everybody always asks you why
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: why don't they move to combine somewhere else? Well, big
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: reason it's not it's a convenient area overall for the combine,
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: but for the medical If you talk to medical people,
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: if you talk to doctor Kaplan, it is off the
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: charts convenient because they know where everything is. You can
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: get MRIs quickly. It is a super convenient spot to
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: do a very inconvenient task. And it's what it's about.
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: And my guess is, as we're talking to Pete about
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: the top of the show, there will always be a
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: combine because of the medical issue. It could get back
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: to the point where everybody understands that it's more for
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: medical than everything else and be less of an on
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: field event going forward. But from what you talk to people,
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: nobody thinks that there will come a day where there's
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: not a central location like this to have people come
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: and do the medicals. Because it's everything.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Got to have it, and there's obviously the storylines of
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: some other cities may bit on this at some point and.
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: Then it'll be a city where it's easy to go
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: get I mean, And I think they'll move it somewhere
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: because the league will want somewhere and they very much
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: want this to be what I would call like a
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: circus tent pole event. They want it to be a
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: fan and it's tough because they've been able to make
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: it that yet because it's not a very fan friendly.
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: The events aren't fan friendly enough. But I think they'll
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: eventually move it. And my guess is the year you
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: move it will be walking around somewhere and we'll see
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: doctor Caplan and he'll give you one of these. All right,
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: well they got it.
• 25:51
  Speaker 7: But so.
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: This is truly a from the football people you talk to.
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: This is it. If it ain't broke, don't fix it
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: event but you since at some point they'll break it,
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: and it'll be the people trying to execute the medicals
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: that we'll have to work harder for that.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: Let's come back in a moment.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: We're after Trevor Sikima Pro Football Focus scheduled to join
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  Speaker 3: It's worth saving. We do have the right quarterback.
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  Speaker 8: I'm excited for the future with Trevor. He's excited the
• 26:53
  Speaker 8: conversations we've had since the season, you know. And I
• 26:57
  Speaker 8: don't get into the contract stuff. I mean that's I
• 26:59
  Speaker 8: leave that for Trent and the agents and stuff.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: But I just know that our guy is the right guy.
• 27:04
  Speaker 8: He's got the right demeanor, he's got the right leadership,
• 27:07
  Speaker 8: and it's our job as coaches now to make sure
• 27:09
  Speaker 8: he takes that next step. And this will be another
• 27:11
  Speaker 8: big off season for him and his development and growth.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: By no means is he where is he? Is he
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: where he wants to be or where we want him
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: to be.
• 27:22
  Speaker 8: But really looking forward to to work in another year
• 27:24
  Speaker 8: with with Trevor.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: That's said coach Doug Peterson.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Of course, at the podium earlier this week Tuesday at
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• 27:47
  Speaker 3: Good to have you back. What's up.
• 27:48
  Speaker 9: I appreciate you, ays having me back.
• 27:50
  Speaker 6: I'm just gonna be under the impression that Doug was
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: talking to me every time he said Trevor. Actually it's
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: just always first name, and it's just like, oh, thank you, Doug.
• 27:58
  Speaker 9: I appreciate. Also, think I'm gonna have a good year.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's perfect.
• 28:02
  Speaker 9: Yeah, no, but it's great to.
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  Speaker 4: Be with you guys.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: Guy. That's what happens.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: So here we are at the combine again, defensive line
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: workouts are going on behind us, you know, across the
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: street at least we've seen them on screens and here.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: So that's the first day of on field activity and
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: a whole weekend of that. But from your perspective in
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: the way you write and things for PFF, what's the
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: most important part of a combine week for you and
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: your coverage.
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so you know, certainly the measurables are very very important, right.
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: I think that that's a big part of data gathering.
• 28:34
  Speaker 6: That is key for us because you have like weight
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: adjusted scores and certain thresholds that you know teams have
• 28:42
  Speaker 6: for different positions, you know, whether it's size of tackle
• 28:45
  Speaker 6: or you know, certain like arm lengths for corners, like
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: things like that. So that's really important because as we know,
• 28:51
  Speaker 6: schools sometimes lie about these guys, you know, fabricated, get
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: a little dating profile in there.
• 28:55
  Speaker 9: You know, maybe you're a little bit taller than you
• 28:57
  Speaker 9: actually are.
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: So you know, getting those measurements I think is really key. Certainly,
• 29:03
  Speaker 6: the athletic measurements are great. When you see a guy
• 29:05
  Speaker 6: on tape and you think he's athletic, you need to
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: see it out here.
• 29:08
  Speaker 9: You want to reaffirm that.
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 29:09
  Speaker 6: If he's got a really good first step, okay, you
• 29:11
  Speaker 6: want to see the ten yard split.
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: If you think he's really quick, you want to see
• 29:14
  Speaker 6: that in the cone drills, and so it's just those
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: things that you watch the tape. The tape is king,
• 29:18
  Speaker 6: but it's always good for them to come out here
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: and show you, yes, I am always that kind of athlete,
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: and that just reaffirms kind of what you believe of
• 29:25
  Speaker 6: a lot of strengths of these guys. And then you know,
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: this is a smaller part of it because we don't
• 29:29
  Speaker 6: get to talk to them very often. But evaluation of
• 29:33
  Speaker 6: these players you tape is only it's a big part
• 29:36
  Speaker 6: of it, but who they are is such a massive
• 29:39
  Speaker 6: part of this, and it ends up being a big
• 29:41
  Speaker 6: differentiating factor when it comes to we're gonna choose this
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: guy over this guy. You hear coaches and gms talk
• 29:46
  Speaker 6: all the time about culture, the right guys, things like that,
• 29:49
  Speaker 6: And so even though we as the media don't get
• 29:51
  Speaker 6: to get to sit down with them individually, seeing them
• 29:56
  Speaker 6: at the podium, hearing them answer these questions, watching you know,
• 29:59
  Speaker 6: their face slide up when they talk about certain things
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: like all that, like that, all of those things are
• 30:03
  Speaker 6: really important for different reasons.
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: At the combine, you mentioned the measurables, and this question
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: is probably in your wheelhouse because obviously PFF is known
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: for the analytical side of the game, with GPS information
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: coming from colleges. Now, how do you see that starting
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: to change how teams are gonna view them versus what
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: they see out here. How do you see that changing
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: scouting over the next five years. It seems like it's
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: about to change it a lot.
• 30:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's gonna be a big component, right
• 30:39
  Speaker 6: because we don't necessarily have to wait for events like this.
• 30:42
  Speaker 6: We can already have a good idea of what a
• 30:44
  Speaker 6: guy is going to run. And we saw, you know,
• 30:46
  Speaker 6: in mobile at the Senior Bowl. They're doing that as well.
• 30:48
  Speaker 6: They're putting the GPS on these guys and you know,
• 30:50
  Speaker 6: in between practices or when you show up the first day,
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: they'll be showing on the big screen like, hey, here
• 30:55
  Speaker 6: was the fastest you know, defensive back yesterday. And you
• 30:57
  Speaker 6: get to see kinds of things like that, and you
• 30:59
  Speaker 6: see the miles par and all that. And so I
• 31:01
  Speaker 6: think that data is, you know, being as public as
• 31:03
  Speaker 6: it is is relatively new. But the important thing about data,
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: the guys at PFF have always kind of preached this
• 31:09
  Speaker 6: to me since I came on a couple of years
• 31:10
  Speaker 6: ago with him, volume is always the most important thing.
• 31:13
  Speaker 6: Right When you have a big sample size of data,
• 31:15
  Speaker 6: then you can really find out the truth about that.
• 31:17
  Speaker 6: So as years go on here and we have more
• 31:20
  Speaker 6: public or more available tracking data, you know, whether it's
• 31:24
  Speaker 6: changing direction, speed, total foot speed, miles per hour, distance traveled,
• 31:28
  Speaker 6: like whatever.
• 31:29
  Speaker 7: It is.
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: The more data that you have, the bigger volume of
• 31:32
  Speaker 6: data that you can measure, that's going to be able
• 31:35
  Speaker 6: to something that becomes quantifiable, that we can say, Okay,
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: this is now a stable metric that we can actually
• 31:40
  Speaker 6: project year to year, and then of course you'll get Hey,
• 31:43
  Speaker 6: this guy ran this speed consistently in college. This sustained
• 31:47
  Speaker 6: at the NFL level and it ended up being a
• 31:49
  Speaker 6: difference maker for them.
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: This is such a change in what a lot of
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: guys who are gms now even grew up with. Yeah,
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: and I know in my life, I'm a stubborn guy
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: and don't like to bring new things into my life.
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: Are you seeing more and more gms comfort level trust
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: in the things you're talking about, grow and grow and grow,
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: because I'm sure there's still a little bit of resistance,
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: but it's the future, it's the now. Are you seeing
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: that when you talk to people, when you see results,
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: when you see.
• 32:22
  Speaker 9: Drafts, Yeah, one hundred percent.
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: And you know, for some of the gms that have
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: been there doing it a long time, they're kind of
• 32:29
  Speaker 6: standing their ways.
• 32:30
  Speaker 9: Sounds harsh, but it's like they have.
• 32:32
  Speaker 6: Their ways of which they came up through this business
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: and what they believe to be the truth of the
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: best way to evaluate these players and team build and
• 32:38
  Speaker 6: all that, and so for them it's understandable that it
• 32:41
  Speaker 6: would be a little bit of a slower adjustment. But
• 32:43
  Speaker 6: I can tell you when teams are hiring new general managers, right,
• 32:48
  Speaker 6: these are the conversations that you have and you can't
• 32:50
  Speaker 6: just you don't have the luxury of saying no, no, no,
• 32:52
  Speaker 6: this is the way that we do it, this is
• 32:54
  Speaker 6: the way that we've always done it. You don't get
• 32:55
  Speaker 6: that benefit of the doubt because instead somebody might come
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: in in an interview behind you and say, yeah, we're
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: totally up on analytics. We understand how to take Because
• 33:03
  Speaker 6: the thing is is that people look at PFF and
• 33:05
  Speaker 6: they think like, oh, they only believe the numbers, and
• 33:07
  Speaker 6: that's it.
• 33:08
  Speaker 9: The numbers simply are there to help us. It is
• 33:11
  Speaker 9: a piece of the puzzle.
• 33:12
  Speaker 6: We've never said that those things are perfect, you know,
• 33:14
  Speaker 6: even the grades that we have. People love to harp
• 33:16
  Speaker 6: on the grades and things like that todes well. And
• 33:21
  Speaker 6: the thing is is that we've never said that they're perfect.
• 33:24
  Speaker 9: We like our system.
• 33:25
  Speaker 6: We're always trying to make things better. We're always trying
• 33:27
  Speaker 6: to improve and we've had people from in and out
• 33:29
  Speaker 6: of the NFL kind of help us with that. But ultimately,
• 33:32
  Speaker 6: it is simply a tool to help you make better decisions.
• 33:36
  Speaker 6: It's not the be all end all. Football evaluation is
• 33:40
  Speaker 6: a massive puzzle piece that you're supposed to put together,
• 33:43
  Speaker 6: and for different prospects, different pieces mean more.
• 33:46
  Speaker 9: So that's all it is.
• 33:47
  Speaker 6: And I think that when you talk about to your
• 33:48
  Speaker 6: original question, that willingness to look at those analytics and
• 33:54
  Speaker 6: look at those those those data points, that's all you
• 33:57
  Speaker 6: really want. Is there a willingness there? Can I owe
• 34:00
  Speaker 6: you this and say, hey, we think that this is
• 34:03
  Speaker 6: valuable from an analytical perspective. Do you have an openness
• 34:06
  Speaker 6: in your mind to say, Okay, I'll take a look
• 34:08
  Speaker 6: at that. Because if you take a look at it
• 34:09
  Speaker 6: and you go, nah, I don't like it, that's fine.
• 34:12
  Speaker 6: It's just the fact that you want to be open
• 34:15
  Speaker 6: minded to anything that can help you get an edge
• 34:18
  Speaker 6: in an extremely competitive game in a multi billion dollar industry.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: Trevor second One with us NFL draft analyst Pro Football Focus,
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: give them a follow on X at Tampa Bay Tray.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: All Right, the Jaguars finished nine and eight. They also
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: finished nine and eighth the year before that, little different
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: feeling nine and eight this time around, obviously after losing
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: five of the last six. So from your vantage point,
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: where are the Jaguars currently? There's free agency coming up,
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: some big time names that are pending free agents, some needs.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: How far away are the Jaguars?
• 34:51
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I think it's it's more than just
• 34:54
  Speaker 6: a twenty twenty three story, right, And I think you
• 34:56
  Speaker 6: guys know that you go back to what it was
• 34:59
  Speaker 6: with Urban Meyer and how much of a roller coaster
• 35:01
  Speaker 6: that was, and then Doug taking over and things going
• 35:04
  Speaker 6: in the right direction.
• 35:05
  Speaker 9: But as you guys know, progress is not always linear.
• 35:08
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 35:08
  Speaker 6: Just because it got better from there didn't mean that
• 35:10
  Speaker 6: it was always only going to go up, and so
• 35:13
  Speaker 6: you figured it was gonna be a little bit of
• 35:14
  Speaker 6: a roller coaster ride, and there were some frustrations, especially
• 35:17
  Speaker 6: down the stretch. Now, this is a team that I
• 35:19
  Speaker 6: think has done the work to put themselves in that
• 35:22
  Speaker 6: conversation of we are in a winning window, and it
• 35:24
  Speaker 6: just didn't feel like they had that identity at all times.
• 35:27
  Speaker 6: Last year, and to me, that's a big part of
• 35:29
  Speaker 6: the puzzle going into this year is they gotta believe
• 35:32
  Speaker 6: they are that playoff team. They gotta believe they are
• 35:34
  Speaker 6: the best team in the division, and sometimes it just
• 35:36
  Speaker 6: didn't feel like that. And I think when you look
• 35:38
  Speaker 6: at team building, I really look at the interior defensive
• 35:41
  Speaker 6: line and the interior offensive line. Is let's get a
• 35:44
  Speaker 6: lot better in those areas this offseason. Sure, like you mentioned,
• 35:47
  Speaker 6: you've got some free agents that you got some decisions
• 35:50
  Speaker 6: to make. I think no matter what wide receiver depth,
• 35:53
  Speaker 6: corner depth, I think those are things that you would
• 35:55
  Speaker 6: also address. But let's get really strong in the interior
• 35:59
  Speaker 6: parts of both sides of the trenches. And I think
• 36:01
  Speaker 6: that they do have some star power outside of that
• 36:04
  Speaker 6: to really be that winning window team.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: So there you have it, The draft coming up late April.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, what do you guys have on a weekly
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: basis now moving ahead after the combine?
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's PROA season coming up.
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: Ye.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: What else is in the hopper?
• 36:18
  Speaker 9: Yeah?
• 36:18
  Speaker 6: So we actually released the first version of our Draft
• 36:21
  Speaker 6: guide over at PFF dot com right now, which anybody
• 36:24
  Speaker 6: can go and download if they have a premium subscription.
• 36:26
  Speaker 6: It's got one hundred and fifty full scouting reports, the analysis,
• 36:30
  Speaker 6: the strengths and weaknesses, the trade breakdowns, the advanced data,
• 36:33
  Speaker 6: a lot of the stable metrics that we have about
• 36:35
  Speaker 6: every single position. That stuff is all in there for
• 36:38
  Speaker 6: Like I said, one hundred and fifty guys, we're getting
• 36:40
  Speaker 6: another fifty in there for the next iteration, then another
• 36:42
  Speaker 6: fifty for a total of two fifty that.
• 36:44
  Speaker 9: We will have before draft weekend.
• 36:46
  Speaker 6: So make sure you go and get that. And obviously,
• 36:48
  Speaker 6: any any players that the Jags either have their eyes
• 36:51
  Speaker 6: on or end up drafting, we can tell you all
• 36:53
  Speaker 6: about them if you've got that draft guide.
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: I do have one final question on like when you're
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: doing a mock draft. Can you tell when you're putting
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: together a mock draft and look at other people's mock
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: drafts that you take a different approach because of the
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: PFF approach if we I mean, is there a difference
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: in the mock drafts that people see? If you know
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: what I'm getting at.
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I think that mock drafts are very different
• 37:21
  Speaker 6: at different times of the year. Right we're in late
• 37:24
  Speaker 6: February early March. Now, the mock drafts that we do
• 37:28
  Speaker 6: will now be mainly predictive, like it will be this
• 37:31
  Speaker 6: is what we think this team will do. It's not
• 37:34
  Speaker 6: necessarily a what I or what we would do. For
• 37:38
  Speaker 6: a lot of those mocks, I do those in October, November, December.
• 37:42
  Speaker 6: I will tell you a lot about the prospects and
• 37:44
  Speaker 6: what I think about them, use a lot of my
• 37:46
  Speaker 6: own big board, and say this is how I'd.
• 37:49
  Speaker 9: Improve this team.
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: These are the team needs that we're seeing form throughout
• 37:52
  Speaker 6: the season.
• 37:53
  Speaker 9: This could be an option for them.
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: But when we get to this point of the year,
• 37:56
  Speaker 6: I think a lot of fans really just want to know, Hey,
• 37:58
  Speaker 6: who do you think that we're going to take? You know,
• 38:00
  Speaker 6: and so that answer is sometimes very different. So I
• 38:04
  Speaker 6: like to do those two different mock draft exercises, and
• 38:06
  Speaker 6: so sometimes I like to throw them both in around
• 38:09
  Speaker 6: this time of year and clarify, this is what I
• 38:10
  Speaker 6: think the team's gonna do.
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: This is what I do.
• 38:13
  Speaker 6: But normally there's just two different conversations that come with
• 38:15
  Speaker 6: mock drafts, and then.
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: Free agency happens and changes everything.
• 38:18
  Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, and look, we'll do a mock on Monday,
• 38:22
  Speaker 6: and then free agency will come and we'll have to
• 38:24
  Speaker 6: completely change everything.
• 38:25
  Speaker 9: So that's just the time of the year that it is.
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: Well, it's fun.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: Well, Yes, the NFL second of Pro Football focus always
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: a pleasure. Appreciate your time.
• 38:32
  Speaker 9: Appreciate it, guys, Great work buddy.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: Plenty ahead, We're back in a moment. Some fan questions
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  Speaker 10: This past season was kind of like a stuff of
• 38:55
  Speaker 10: the Bud year in some ways, offensively at least where
• 38:58
  Speaker 10: you felt like the expectations deserved incredibly high. So we'll
• 39:01
  Speaker 10: learn a lot about this Jaguars team this upcoming season
• 39:03
  Speaker 10: that I think obviously is gonna look a little bit different.
• 39:07
  Speaker 10: But unlike prior years, like this is not going to
• 39:10
  Speaker 10: be the year where I expect to the set spend
• 39:12
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• 39:14
  Speaker 10: this might be much more of a retention off season
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  Speaker 2: earlier in the show, and yeah, we'll see what happens now,
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, moving out of here. It's all about the
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: franchise tag, when if they use it, which player they
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: use it on before March fifth, that's the deadline, or
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: do they get some d done. The start of the
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: league year, of course, is March thirteenth or four o'clock.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: There's a two day window to officially negotiate for pending
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: for free agents after that, so there's a lot of
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: business coming up in the next two weeks.
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's gonna be interesting. I think there'll
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: be a touch more active and high profile free agency
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: than field things. I don't think it's gonna be a
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: you know, Christian kirk za Jones evaning, you know that
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: was a big one. Yeah, But because they're not there anymore,
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: they don't have to pull themselves up in three and
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: fourteen to nine and eight. They're at nine and eight
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: and they need to get better than that. I my
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: guess is that they will study corner an interior offensive
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: line quite a bit in free agency and figure out
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: if there's a guy who can impact one of those
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: two spots, if there's a guy that can free them
• 41:02
  Speaker 5: up to being able to make a wise choice at seventeen,
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: meaning not reach for a position there. But I think
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: I can see three potential or a potential impact guy,
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: a high profile free agent, another free agent who can
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: perhaps compete with a Luke Fortner, can compete with the
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: spot to try to make it better. If they like
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: Cooper Hodges, are you going to bring in a veteran
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: to make sure that Cooper Hodges has to earn that
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: spot because he's never played in the NFL Cooper Hodges
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: so moves like that because the great truth of the draft,
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: No GM wants to go into the draft and not
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: be able to start already, meaning you want to have
• 41:48
  Speaker 5: a depth chart that if you had to go into
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: Week one, you could line up, so they'll be able
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: to line up, and now you want your draft to
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: be able to improve what you've already got.
• 41:58
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• 42:06
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• 42:09
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• 42:13
  Speaker 3: Where's Bucky? He didn't make it on this show. It's okay.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: Which cornerback from the draft or free agency fit the
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: new Jags defense? Well, if you go on Jaguars dot
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: com to a lot of our guests that have come on,
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: they will dig into some of the names near the
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: top and field the field.
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: Yates actually talked about a basket.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: You know there's maybe not one two kind of guys,
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: but there's you know a handful of guys that could
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: be around the top a cornerback.
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: Pete was talking a little bit like that as well.
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: And my impression is Rekestraw and I always draw a
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: blank on on the Toledo name. Quinian Mitchell. I believe
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: and hope them getting that right. My impression from listening
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: to people is that is that they fit what Nielsen's
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: going to try to want to do. He he wants
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: to play press with help over the top. Those guys
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: seem to fit that. Nate Wiggins perhaps not so much
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: so it sounds like there will be guys who can
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: play in that scheme at that spot. So those would
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: be the names that I've heard, and in the next
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: couple weeks try to get a little more into those names.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: Next question, at Shrek's Pacino corner, interior, O line, and
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: D line seem to be the biggest needs right now.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: But how would you rank those three positions from most
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: pressing to lease. Well, for me, John, I'll go interior,
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: O line, corner, and D line.
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: YEP, Pressing is the key word if I'm looking at
• 43:43
  Speaker 5: a long term pressing which you can have pressing long
• 43:46
  Speaker 5: term need corner has to be addressed somewhere in this
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: draft or in freegency in my thought, because you've got
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: Tyson Campbell and Darius Williams both coming up on the
• 43:57
  Speaker 5: last year of their deal. So if you want preim
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: or premium equity spent there and not have a brand
• 44:05
  Speaker 5: new at some point, you need to get started replacing
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: one of those guys, because you're probably going to replace
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: both of them. That would be unusual. So I guess
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: for the sake of the question, I would go most pressing.
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: It's going to sort of depend on what they do
• 44:25
  Speaker 5: with some of their guys too. If Brandon Sheriff returns,
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: then interior line all of a sudden, everybody may think
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: it's pressing, but isn't pressing. I don't think he'll return,
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: so I'll go offensive line, corner, and defensive tackle. I
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: love disruptive defensive tackles, So a great disruptive defensive tackle
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: would be the guy that I would pick because I
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: think out of those three positions, that has the potential
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: to impact you the most because if it's closest to
• 44:55
  Speaker 5: the quarterback and it's a disruptive position. So that would
• 44:59
  Speaker 5: be my choice if I had if I had an
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: all Pro five year guy, and I knew, I would
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: pay defensive tackle over offensive line and corns.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, who doesn't like a disruptive defensive tackle. I mean
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: that's what they're supposed.
• 45:14
  Speaker 5: To be, right, right, But if you knew you were
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: gonna get it, but yeah, so you don't, right, That's
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: why you draft.
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: Sometimes you don't know.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: Final question today at Julian Laurie al Balkey said that
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: Cam Robinson will be back, but what if the right
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: tackle for Lago slides to seventeen or you never know?
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: Left tackle Joe alf cornerback is not a lock at seventeen,
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: don't you think.
• 45:39
  Speaker 5: Well, there's no locks. I don't think there's no locks.
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: I would say realistically, if Cam's back, probably he's back
• 45:53
  Speaker 5: on a deal that makes it likely he's back for
• 45:56
  Speaker 5: two years, and that maybe that's not true. That would
• 45:59
  Speaker 5: be my impression, because I would think you'd probably rework
• 46:04
  Speaker 5: a deal to get it a little more cap friendly.
• 46:07
  Speaker 5: Maybe not, but so I think if Cam's back and
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: Anton's still right, then it would be surprising if you
• 46:15
  Speaker 5: went tackle again there, considering you have Walker Little on
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: the roster, so you already have your three, your depth,
• 46:23
  Speaker 5: your you know your safety valve if you will. I'm
• 46:27
  Speaker 5: talking a little about talking a little out both sides
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: of my mouth because I just said, well, you want
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: to draft for the future, and it's and it's possible
• 46:34
  Speaker 5: Walk a Little wouldn't be there the next year. But
• 46:38
  Speaker 5: I would say, if Cam's back, I'd be surprised if
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: it's pure tackle at number seventeen. If it's a guy
• 46:46
  Speaker 5: who can play guard and tackle, then that makes a
• 46:50
  Speaker 5: little more sense. I love the idea of drafting developmental
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: guy in the first round beause it means your roster
• 46:57
  Speaker 5: is mature. I don't know that they're going to feel
• 47:00
  Speaker 5: like they have that luxury.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, if it's a guy who can playguard and snap,
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: then that's a that could be an option.
• 47:07
  Speaker 5: You love it and catch pass right too?
• 47:11
  Speaker 7: Right?
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: All that?
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, if there's that guy, certainly and fundamentally
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  Speaker 5: I agree with what he's saying. If you're sitting at
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  Speaker 5: seventeen and you feel like you've got an offensive lineman
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  Speaker 5: who is a ten year starter, three or four time
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  Speaker 5: Pro bowler and you can make your offensive line, keep
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  Speaker 5: building it. Sure, realistically, teams don't draft that.
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  Speaker 4: Way you have it.
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  Speaker 2: The social media questions are in presented by Microsoft on
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  Speaker 2: This Jaguars Happy Hour, and that will pretty much wrap
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  Speaker 2: our coverage from Indianapolis. Huddle Up we'll run on Friday
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  Speaker 2: on the Official Jaguars podcast network. The video version on
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: Jaguars dot Com featuring Cynthia Freeland, and so check that out.
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  Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks was with us for that shows.
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  Speaker 5: He was for that show.
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  Speaker 2: We'll put it up on Friday, though you can hear
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  Speaker 2: Bunky and Cynthy and get their thoughts about the Jaguars.
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  Speaker 2: But got a lot done this week. Heard from the
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  Speaker 2: GM and the head coach that that really is the
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  Speaker 2: big thing that draws us here each and every year,
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  Speaker 2: and there's always whether they give you any definitive answers,
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  Speaker 2: is at least something to move the offseason out forward.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think we found out that they feel
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  Speaker 5: good about the roster, know there's work to do. As
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  Speaker 5: Trent Balky said on our show, we're in it to
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  Speaker 5: win it and not playing for anything else. So they
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  Speaker 5: know the moves they're gonna make. People watching the content
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  Speaker 5: probably say, well, they didn't say anything. They don't like this,
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  Speaker 5: they don't like that. They're not gonna say everything, but
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  Speaker 5: you know, it gives you a little better feel and
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  Speaker 5: that's what you're looking for out of the combine.
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  Speaker 6: You know.
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  Speaker 5: I think the big news Doug hasn't decided who's gonna
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  Speaker 5: call plays next year, right, And they're talking with Josh,
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  Speaker 5: they're talking with Calvin, they're talking with with Ezra Cleveland's agent.
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  Speaker 5: There's moving on those but this week on those fronts,
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  Speaker 5: it's sort of a stay tuned and let's see what
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  Speaker 5: happens later.
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  Speaker 2: And Trent Balkey actually told NFL Network on Tuesday before
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  Speaker 2: all the stuff at the podium that they had talked
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  Speaker 2: to Trevor Lawrence's folks as well.
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  Speaker 5: Sure, and okay, I'd be surprised with Trevor the way
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  Speaker 5: those conversations have gone. With other mega contract quarterback guys,
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  Speaker 5: It's usually been closer to training camp because there can
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  Speaker 5: be complex deals. That doesn't mean Jaguars won't do something immediately,
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  Speaker 5: but if you're a Jaguars fan and they haven't resigned
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  Speaker 5: Trevor or done that by April, that's usually the complex
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  Speaker 5: and significant enough deal. They can be closer to training
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  Speaker 5: camp when it gets done, or even in training camp.
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  Speaker 3: Who knows, John well done all week?
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  Speaker 5: Good job, enjoyed it, buddy, Great job.
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  Speaker 2: John Oser, Jaguars dot Com senior writer, joining us thanks
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: to Trevor second month Pro Football Focus, Pete Prisco, CBS Sports,
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  Speaker 2: Brent Reaper here on site with us each and every show.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, our whole crew here on site at Indianapolis
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: and back in the studio. Joe Fortunado, Max Hawkman, David Chow,
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  Speaker 2: that entire crew back home doing a great.
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  Speaker 3: Job all week.
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  Speaker 2: Our social media team fantastic of course, all our graphics guys,
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  Speaker 2: Nick Cortes, those guys did a great job. So thanks
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