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728. Be True to What Your Body Is Telling You · Be It Till You See It

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  [SPEAKER_01]: What better way to be it till we see it, but to listen to our body, because it's kind of hard to become the version of your stuff you want to be if you're not listening to the version of yourself you are.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to the be it till you see it podcast, where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm also Logan, Ply's instructor and fit this business coach.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I've trained thousands of people around the world, and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: My friends, action brings clarity, and it's the antidote to fear.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Each week my guests will bring bold, executable, intrinsic, and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and be it till you see it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a practice, not a perfect, let's get started.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Welcome back to the B.A.T.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You see interview recap where my co-hosts in life Brad and I are going to dig into the informed combo.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I had with Dr. Amy Lodon, Tiffany, in our last episode, if you haven't yet, listen to interview, you missed some good, fucking stuff.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I felt like my jaw was on the floor a couple of times, but listen to this, then go listen to that.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And spoiler alert.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I already interviewed her for the second one.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I just did it yesterday.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Wow, awesome.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Because I was just, oh, great.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: You're back.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And it was really, really, really, it's a really nuanced conversation.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I'll explain more later.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But today, Brad's going to tell us what today is.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, 30 September 3rd, 2026, and it is Merchant Navy Day.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: What is a Merchant Navy you ask?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Let's start with what it's not.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: The regular Navy is a branch of the country's of a country's military responsible for national defense and maritime security in contrast.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: A merchant navy or the merchant navy is a civilian commercial fleet that transports cargo and passengers globally to support international trade.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So effectively they work for a company that moves products around the world.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You could be a merchant navy person and work for a multiple different companies.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So it has nothing to do with military.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It is everything to do with being a ship pilot on a cargo ship or even a deckhand or whatever.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: If you're working in the ports, I'm not sure if you're on ports if you're part of the merchant navy, but if you're on the boats that are driving around the world.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You're like a larger corporate pirate.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Sure, not a pirate but pirates are real.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, they're definitely like pirates.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but the merchant navy actually would Like a consumer sailor.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yeah, it's like a yes, that's right a commercial sailor commercial sailor Yes, yeah, but it's probably not sailing about so much as it is sailing a vessel.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That's so yeah
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, so merchant navy day sails into view every September 3rd, cute, a dedicated time to honor the invaluable contributions of merchant sea fares worldwide.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: These brave men and women ensure the flow of goods, fuel, and food that powers our daily lives and economies, take a moment to learn about their sacrifices, support maritime welfare charities, and recognize their often unseen work.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I couldn't imagine they're probably on these boats for months at a time.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: months months.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, one play and then you have to come back.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It might not ever see their family.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So it's absolutely the case.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And for example, when I used to work in skin and hair care, we used to manufacture the glass was actually manufacturing in Korea.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And so I would have to organize the factory to take it to the port and then the port put it on a it would be in pallets and then the pallets get loaded into a container, plus 40 foot containers, and then the container would go on this massive cargo ship, and then it would
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Grab across the ocean.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's like a, it's a super large size of cruise ships, but just for products.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and, and then one year, there was a strike for the union workers at the, at the port in Long Beach.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And I remember our cargo ship got stuck in a line, lastly, there was a line of 50 cargo ships.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Do remember it during the pandemic is even happened.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like our friend Joe Lilly had a send a chip out to a ship to get his stuff.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It was a whole thing because what the fuck?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We got to get this product off the ship.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and that's very dangerous to do that stuff on the open water like that because it's just just complicated.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I read.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, not, I mean, when you have 50 boats in a row, there's unlikely that there's going to be pirates, because there's also going to be the navy, the military, the military.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we'll be out, making sure that everything is safe, but still, regardless.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, so they had to sail across the ocean, and then they turn around and they have to go back, but the company that they work for, they might be in a whole other country.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's like an airline pilot, you know, for example, one time we were,
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  [SPEAKER_00]: flying to Cambodia, and we were flying through China.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And I think maybe it was just me.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I sat next to a guy on the plane who was a pilot, and he's from Brazil, flies for a Chinese airline, and then his Chinese flights would go to Europe.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He's home as him Brazil, he had a flight of China to get on his flight his job to fly to Europe back and forth the China, you know, you don't have to move got moved got to move anyway, anyway, what we have to point out what's going on right now, what I wanted to point out right now is that at the time of this recording, there are around 6,000 commercial seafarers remaining stranded.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: board hundreds of merchant ships in and around the street of Hormuz following the sudden collapse of a US Iran ceasefire agreement.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So shipping through this vital energy corridor has ground to a near standstill through to the drones and missiles and and all the.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So hopefully by the time you're hearing this episode, trade is going to flow again, and there are no more trap sailors, but it's been devastating, they are not military, they're just trying to do their job, and they're stuck on these ships, and they're not getting food, and if they're getting sick, there's no way to get to them to even give them the supplies that they need.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's quite a problem, and sometimes it feels like it's getting solved, and then it all goes to shit again.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So hopefully,
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I know we're over here about our gas prices, but there's literal people who's they're not involved with any country or military and they're just trying to do their job in their stock.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yep, yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So just raising awareness and a big shout-out to those who do this kind of work or their job, thanks for doing all that because you make the world go round.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, speaking of the world going around, I started a teacher train program.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, we do.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So if you heard the rumor that I started a teacher train program, I did.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's getting longer and longer every week, Brad.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, this is just quick.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then my crazy enough to go back and forth.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Let's roll straight into the charity of the week.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: September is suicide prevention awareness month, and we're very excited to talk about AFSP or the American Foundation for suicide prevention.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It is the nation's leading suicide prevention organization, founder of the 1987 and now working through 73 chapters in all 50 states, DC and Puerto Rico.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: The AFSP funds research into what actually prevents suicide, trains, clinicians, and everyday people to recognize warning science supports survivors of loss, and it pushes for policy change.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Most of it funded not by big checks, but by hundreds of thousands of small donors, just like you and I, showing up,
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  [SPEAKER_00]: during their out of the darkness community walks nationwide.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So they hate they do an event out of the darkness community walks and that's what helps raise money.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So it's about as trustworthy of a charity as it gets, they get a four star exceptional rating from the charity navigator over 80 percent of every dollar going straight to the to their.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: programs and they have a top rated distinction from charity watch, which is the toughest watch dog in the space.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: The AFSP also recently announced plans to merge with the jet, the jet foundations, sorry, the jet foundation becoming the country's largest suicide prevention organization spanning every age group.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So any donation as landing a moment when their reach is about to grow, suicide is such your life or someone you love and statistically for a lot of
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this is a place where showing up really helps fund or find out about your local chapter by going to AFSP.org and you can actually in the United States there is a suicide crisis lifeline instead of 911.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's 988 so you can call or text 988 for free.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's confidential and it's 24.7.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't actually know about 988.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I knew that there were like prevention
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's important because like we all have we all have hard times mental health is a is something that should not be a privilege thing that some insurance companies cover and then if you don't have they don't have it we all are No one is immune and we had a dear friend who actually used to work for the Nevada chapter of the FSP AFSP and I got to see the work that she did for two years and it's really quite incredible what they're doing this is support people and I can't think of like if you're needing community what
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You can go be community for people who need it and you'd be surprised that I can help, but if you need their help, definitely reach out or go to 988 because This is real shit, you know, so anyways Well, it's about oh you guys can send in the charities you want us to shout out.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, thanks guys.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Stick around.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to dig into this cover with Dr. Amy Loden.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Welcome back.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk about Amy Loden, Dr. Amy Loden, based in St. Louis, Missouri, nearly died from severe preclampsia with heart failure during a high-risk twin pregnancy.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: an experience that exposed major gaps in conventional care and reshaped how she practices medicine.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: She's a physician entrepreneur and the founder of Vitality MWC, a practice focus on women's metabolic and hormonal health, guiding patients through postpartum recovery, hairy menopause, and long-term hormonal balance.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: She's a TEDx speaker and she also is the author of the Postpartum Pivot.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I will have the link for her book in the show notes below.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's important if you had a baby, you need the book and it's not, oh I've had a baby 15 years ago.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I think you need the book still.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's about all health stuff that happens if you've had babies.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah and what a revealing conversation you know with her about the, you know, what it does to what being pregnant and going through that does to the body and how it reveals things.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was really interesting.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, what's one of the things you love that she said?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So many good stuff.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We talked.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean we talked about stuff.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: You've also just blended two conversations.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to work on not doing that.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to work on.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to have one yesterday.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So I forget the one I had yesterday.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So we talked about Perryman a pause and it's very interesting because I think the way she talked about it is in the past, people have to hear him in a pause like yes or no.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't have this thing.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I have this thing.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: No, I don't have that thing, but actually.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: the symptoms are a sliding scale for every woman and we all have to figure out where we are on this spectrum, which means we just have to be paying attention to our bodies, which is not easy to you when you're really busy, you've got to walk going on.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So she also said, you know, you're are going to have those unpredictable ups and downs, are going to be some months where your ovaries are working like fire and you're just like, I'm amazed and there's other months we're just building you got run over by a truck.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think it's really nice to have a doctor who's a female who says that because usually they're, oh, well, you don't have it that bad or we give you these drugs
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  [SPEAKER_01]: talking about or she said her own experience was okay you're within the numbers see next time and there's it yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so and also it's like okay well you're within the numbers but those are those the best numbers for you you know and so really affiliate out you have to figure out what you are you my listener had to figure out where you are because that will help you advocate for what you need and it's really important I'm really grateful for the doctors that I've had because they can they have said you are within range but
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So they were able to give me support so that I could be optimal for me.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And I like how she, you know, my period of pause is like reverse at a lesson.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And it's like this, you know, you're when you're a young girl, you're going through all the puberty and you have all the hormonal fluctuation rollercoaster rides and all of a sudden, woo, hopefully hopefully you have some, I don't know, that wasn't my experience with periods, but like you have this nice and dribble couple decades, and then you reverse back.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's a reverse hormone.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Reverse puberty.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Reverse puberty.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, the word is there somewhere.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And somebody said, somebody said, who is the asshole who let mothers go through and pyramid of pause when their daughters are going through puberty?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, yeah, but remember people used to have kids at 16.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So that wasn't happening.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Actually, but it's here's the thing.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: If you actually are really into pyramid of pause and loving women, if you do some historical work on what women's roles were, and I'm not hanging out like the asshole.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So like, with the grandma's roles, I'm not talking about that,
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  [SPEAKER_01]: but the women who get after-period menopause they became these healers and these dolas for the women who were having the babies and coming up and they're also the ones that held the history and the stories and so if we can think of it like that it kind of makes us feel like we're going into our queen down and you know like we're going in something cool so she said and in case you don't know this it can run anywhere from 10 to 15 years for you actually go through menopause and bras i just lit up and just and then we've set on the podcast before but menopause is one day
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's one day and then you're like post menopause and then you're on the other side You're on the other side.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then and then if you're if you're lucky You get two years before you have the shittiest heart like men do so like it's really Fucking awful thing so you ladies you want to keep your hormones going real well for a long-long time because it doesn't get easier
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, she also did mention HRTs, she kind of didn't actually explicitly say that but she mentioned that all of the hormonal research that have done in the early 2000s a lot of that has been.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: disproven and also challenged and there's a lot more information about it now.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, if you have an assumption that you about that kind of stuff that you've had with you for a long time, I would recommend this worth revisiting.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I would agree with her.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I know I had women challenged me on this who've had family members with experience of breast cancer and I understand their experience, but I am someone who has doubled the risk and my breast doctor is not opposed to maybe on HRT.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Am I gonna call just not a post maybe not HRT.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not currently an estrogen either.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm only on two of them, but they're not even opposed to me doing that because the risks of me having heart problems.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, our greater and I'm on a serious watch.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: She did also mention that it's not for everybody can't be for everyone.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: No, nothing could be for everybody.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So it's something for you to have that conversation with your health care provider.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But I would also, before I move on, I wanted to just want to say, if you are worried about the breast cancer risks, there are ways to get tested multiple times a year.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm on a every six months test schedule.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And so I still have decisions I probably want to think about, but also,
• 18:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm pretty sure they're going to catch it early because I'm going every six months.
• 18:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: So it is a personal decision you must make, but please don't make it out of fear from people saying shit to you on the internet.
• 18:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Talk with your doctors.
• 18:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 18:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 18:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: One thing that I
• 18:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: found really interesting about what she's talking about was the way that being pregnant and then going through the process of having a child or giving birth, she said, what it does is it actually unveils what was already there, right?
• 18:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: So for her case, giving birth was a stress test on her body and that it revealed what
• 18:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: already was was in her body.
• 18:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, genetically.
• 18:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Probably wasn't coming up on any tests because it was probably in range.
• 18:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 18:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: We've had family members with this and it makes you want to go, oh my god, we need to text them right now because there's things you can do when you're younger to take care of stuff that's harder to reverse when you're older.
• 18:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, sure.
• 18:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: But she said that, you know, giving birth is a stress test of a woman's metabolism and cardiovascular system.
• 19:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: She explained that culturally we view pregnancy and complications as something that where the answer is into the pregnancy and then it's gone.
• 19:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: It happened during the pregnancy only and then afterwards they're all better.
• 19:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
• 19:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: Everything's good.
• 19:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's gone.
• 19:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: But it's not gone.
• 19:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: And she's gone.
• 19:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: She's gone.
• 19:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.
• 19:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: She's saying that conditions such as the one she experienced perclamps, yeah, it reveals underlying inflammation or insulin resistance.
• 19:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: That was a previous, you know, something her body was dealing with before.
• 19:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: It just all of a sudden was stressed and that's where something got stuck.
• 19:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: right so she said those conditions are not done after you've given birth it's just simply something that's been unmasked by the physical toll of pregnancy and once it's been unmasked now you can treat it and it's important to continue to treat it and I think that's also why Leslie was suggesting at the beginning of the episode
• 19:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: that her book is still valuable even if you've had a child, you know, 15 years ago because, you know, maybe maybe you did have something that went on and you haven't looked at it as something that still exists in your body today that you will, you know, hopefully you won't have to deal with, but you might have to deal with it as you age.
• 20:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, we, you have to listen to episode because.
• 20:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't say episode because my loves, women's heart conditions, the number one symptom for a woman having a heart problem is sudden death.
• 20:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: Sudden death.
• 20:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Sudden death.
• 20:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: I like, I think I like peaked the mic when I heard you in my office.
• 20:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: What?
• 20:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 20:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 20:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, and I share that with you because, like,
• 20:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Unfortunately, there still isn't enough information about women's bodies.
• 20:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of information is still based off of men's bodies.
• 20:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so, test and size are done on men.
• 20:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: Only in the last decade ish have they said you have to study these things on women, right?
• 20:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: But we, so we don't really know a lot of information that we should know by now.
• 20:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: There should be information on that.
• 20:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so why I'm like so insistent on you knowing this information is that
• 21:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: When you're younger, there are things that might look like they're in range, but if stressed, your body can't handle it now.
• 21:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: Stress is not a bad thing, because you can also stress the body and your body responds the way it's supposed to.
• 21:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: It gets stronger.
• 21:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it's stronger.
• 21:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: But not everybody does that because of genetics, because of too much stress, because of the feel you're having the sleep, where you are with your hormones, did you have those things?
• 21:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so it's just so important that we advocate for ourselves, my loves, because, um, and I know
• 21:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know insurance is shit, just that I do it.
• 21:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, gotta do it.
• 21:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, stick around, we'll be right back.
• 21:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're gonna take into these be-it actions, items we have with Dr. Amy.
• 21:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: Finally, let's talk about those be-it action items.
• 21:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can be taken away from your conversation with Dr. Amy Lodon.
• 21:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: She advises women to specifically pay attention to whether their basal modal motor systems, hot flashes, night flashes, night sweatshirt, sorry, are happening most days of the week,
• 21:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: or more than 10 times a day.
• 22:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: If you hit that threshold and you choose not to take hormones, she warns, you actually have an increased risk for cardiovascular disease or a stroke.
• 22:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now, obviously, she's not your doctor, right, or our doctor.
• 22:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: And she's like, this is like something for you to be aware of to take back to your doctor.
• 22:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: But effectively, that's, you know, when she's talking with her patients, that's her barometer.
• 22:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's her measuring stick.
• 22:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: because I don't even have them, but I can't imagine I saw that woman on the Instagram where you could like see the hot flash the one that went around.
• 22:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: She had 10, it was a day.
• 22:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: You have to take on my shower.
• 22:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't even know how you do it.
• 22:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so while it's not a blanket prescription, she says, and not every woman in the category can or should take hormones, she said, it's important for you to understand that that, you know, if you're hitting a point like that, you definitely want to seek professional help to get a medical assessment.
• 22:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: so that you can make a really informed decision about your health or your future.
• 22:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: Cheers to this listeners, not the basic decisions on outdated fears, the hormones that we take today are different and safer than what was in the women's health initiative that came out in the early 2000s.
• 23:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: So what about you she said be true to what your body is telling you and I think this is really e because I think a lot of times we brush off or push things off or think we ate something bad that one time or the blah blah blah but really your body is talking to you and it doesn't have to we don't want to wait till it's in crisis and then we don't want to go oh my god everything is wrong we actually if we were if we were really paying attention to ourselves we can spread to spot patterns
• 23:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: The doctor cannot be with you every single day.
• 23:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: So they are not going to spot the pattern, but you can bring them the pattern.
• 23:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: And you are paying attention to yourself.
• 23:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: You can do that.
• 23:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so if you are struggling, you're doing all the things to sleep and you're not sleeping.
• 23:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: That is something you have to tell because your body is telling you, I don't have the hormones and the things to sleep, which then all of a sudden everything is going to start to shut down in a terrible way when that happens.
• 23:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: So make sure you're listening to your body and you'll become more wise.
• 23:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: And you'll even become a better version of yourself.
• 24:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I thought, what better way to be until we see it but to listen to our body because it's kind of hard to become the version of your stuff you want to be if you're not listening to the version of your stuff you are.
• 24:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's true.
• 24:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Anyways, I'm telling you guys, my mind is blown and we already had her back for another episode.
• 24:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: So that's going to come out in the near future here and what was that topic?
• 24:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: So it's a nuanced conversation about metabolism and it's specifically for people who are in more of an insulin resistance.
• 24:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: So it's not it's going to sound like it's a weight loss conversation.
• 24:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're not advocating that everyone needs to lose weight.
• 24:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: But
• 24:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: they're just talking about how movement is involved.
• 24:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
• 24:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 24:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then movement a how soon after you've eaten, should you be moving and what kind of movement.
• 24:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then also how often should you be eating?
• 24:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
• 24:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: And all of it depends on your health.
• 24:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 24:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
• 24:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: And your health is any different.
• 24:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: And the conversation is not about this weight is the healthy weight.
• 24:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's not that at all.
• 24:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: But that weight is one metric in the biometrics.
• 24:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so we go into, if you have this measurement off, what kid it at also be affecting in the other biometrics.
• 25:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then how do we address that?
• 25:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because it's all part of the same wheel, right?
• 25:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: When we into the conversation, it's a very difficult conversation because I don't want anyone to be able to.
• 25:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is for me, or this is not for me, or I don't, I can be healthy in size.
• 25:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Of course, and we have to go off of your blood tests.
• 25:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: and then you're weight and your blood test.
• 25:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so it's just really interesting thing.
• 25:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I really appreciate it because there is information.
• 25:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: If you don't have any of these problems, you get to do your thing and have fun until hopefully forever.
• 25:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: But if you are struggling with certain biometrics in your blood work,
• 25:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: and your weight is off then it's not about losing weight like every doctor tells you it's about doing these things that she talks about to help you get your metrics to be where they need to be and then the weight may or may not change but the metrics will be better anyways it's so good I'm so excited about it it's really great so stay tuned but until then make sure that you send this to a woman in your life who needs to hear up because there's some
• 26:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: shocked from the hell out of me.
• 26:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then you can also retouch a doctor Amy Loden if you would like to talk with her if you live in the United States.
• 26:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: So share with her But you took the way you're taking away so far.
• 26:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right until next time be to you see it.
• 26:13
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