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The Bolt Report | 28 July · The Bolt Report

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  Speaker 1: This is the report it.
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  Speaker 2: Tonight, Anthony Alberinezi announces a new oil refinery for Australia,
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  Speaker 2: but isn't just the pr stunt and Angus Taylor named
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  Speaker 2: in a corruption inquiry. Also tonight, communism comes to New
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  Speaker 2: York with Governor Supermarkets of all Things, and Senator Fatima
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  Speaker 2: Payman tells us the pity these victims of the Bundo massacre.
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  Speaker 3: Muslim Australians continue to face the reality of Islamophobia.
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  Speaker 2: But first Victoria has a new premiere today and around
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  Speaker 2: Australia the Labor Party has been given a warning turn
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  Speaker 2: right because the left will ruin you then you. Premier
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  Speaker 2: sworn in today is Ben Carroll, the practicing Catholic like
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  Speaker 2: Labour's best leaders actually, and New Southwest Premier Chris Mins
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  Speaker 2: is how Australia is. Peter malinowskis and is also a
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  Speaker 2: man from the Labor right coming in to try to
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  Speaker 2: fix what his party's socialist left has destroyed. Now I'll
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  Speaker 2: tell you in a minute why Carol will probably fail.
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  Speaker 2: Despite announcing he represented change from a Labor government, he
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  Speaker 2: actually implied lacked integrity. He's not wrong there and I
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  Speaker 2: will get on to that. But let's start with what
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  Speaker 2: was the most frightening message today to labor. Justinto Allen's
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  Speaker 2: totally bizarre resignation speech, which says so much about the
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  Speaker 2: modern left, really the bubble, the blindness, the denialism, the
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  Speaker 2: identity politics. The speech is going to go down as
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  Speaker 2: a classic on how not to quit, and it's an
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  Speaker 2: insight into how labor destroyed Victoria, living with the highest debt,
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  Speaker 2: the highest unemployment, the worst correct and record crime. Now,
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  Speaker 2: Alam started her speech denouncing she was quitting this premier
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  Speaker 2: ahead of the planned leadership vote today, even though and
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  Speaker 2: get this, she would have won.
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  Speaker 4: After speaking with my colleagues overnight, I've made the difficult
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  Speaker 4: decision to step aside as leader of the Victorian State
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  Speaker 4: Parliamentary Labor Party and as Premier of Victoria, I was
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  Speaker 4: prepared to put my record and my plan to a
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  Speaker 4: ballot of members, as our rules allow. I believe I
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  Speaker 4: would have won.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's just so out of touch, just to
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  Speaker 2: be nice about it. I mean, Alan didn't have the
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  Speaker 2: numbers to survive. She won't even win her own seat
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  Speaker 2: at the election judging by the polls, and I tipped
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  Speaker 2: your quit parliament before then. In fact, she's the most
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  Speaker 2: unpopular premier in all Newspot history. I was leading a
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  Speaker 2: party to certain disaster. That so how deluded must Alan
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  Speaker 2: be if she believes she had the votes, Trapped in
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  Speaker 2: a echo chamber, like too many of the left, hearing
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  Speaker 2: only what she chooses to hear. Next, Jasinda Allen announced
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  Speaker 2: that nothing that's gone so terribly wrong with Victoria has
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  Speaker 2: been her fault. She blamed the federal government, she blamed
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  Speaker 2: the former premier, anyone by herself.
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  Speaker 4: The average working family has it tougher. They're the ones
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  Speaker 4: managing interest rate rises. They're the ones living in a
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  Speaker 4: housing crisis. I inherited a rising crime rate. I inherited
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  Speaker 4: a budget deficit. I came to office in a cost
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  Speaker 4: of living crisis.
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  Speaker 2: That's really a bit like federal treasure Jim charmers, You notice,
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  Speaker 2: you know the economy isn't his fault? Are the house
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  Speaker 2: going wrong? He blames international uncertainty or everything, But is
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  Speaker 2: spending and mismanagement and anti business possible anyway? Alan also
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  Speaker 2: played the gender card that labor has made such a weapon.
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  Speaker 2: Dressed yourself up as a as a victim of sexism,
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  Speaker 2: despite having been an incompetent who has gifted the premiership
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  Speaker 2: more than a thousand days ago without ever facing an election.
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  Speaker 4: If you're a woman making your start in politics, let
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  Speaker 4: me say this to you today. Please don't look at
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  Speaker 4: what I have experienced this week and think stuff that
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  Speaker 4: I don't want to be involved. Look at the support
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  Speaker 4: I've experienced over my career and think I can make
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  Speaker 4: a difference here too.
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  Speaker 2: And here's the kicker. Allan made out that among all
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  Speaker 2: these people dragging her down, this poor woman as she
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  Speaker 2: at least, she at least was a self sacrificing heroine
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  Speaker 2: stepping aside to put the party in Victorian's first. She
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  Speaker 2: was quitting so that Ben Carroll, her deputy, and her
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  Speaker 2: challenger could stand unopposed, without labor then having to hold,
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  Speaker 2: as is required, a ballot of all party members under
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  Speaker 2: its leadership rules, a ballot that would last four to
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  Speaker 2: six weeks with a state election already just four months away.
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  Speaker 4: But doing so this close to an election takes up
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  Speaker 4: valuable resources, including the most precious of one time.
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  Speaker 2: Hit. Yet, in the party room meeting, straight after Allen's speech,
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  Speaker 2: her close ally Sonya kill Kenny still threatened to stand
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  Speaker 2: against Carol made a big fuss about it and then
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  Speaker 2: force that vote of Labor members that Alan claimed she
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  Speaker 2: didn't want, couldn't afford, as she did that with reportedly
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  Speaker 2: Alan's support, what a snake's nest whatever. After a lot
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  Speaker 2: of shouting, kill Kenny back down. But the message there
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  Speaker 2: is that Carol does not have all the support in
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  Speaker 2: Labor he will need, which brings me to him, to
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  Speaker 2: this new am where as to believe that he will
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  Speaker 2: be the new Broom in fact, has promised that a
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  Speaker 2: new approach, he calls.
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  Speaker 5: It enough is enough in my government, integrity will not
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  Speaker 5: be optional.
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  Speaker 2: Padden. Does he mean that the past two labor governments
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  Speaker 2: of Daniel Andrews and just Center Allen did treat integrity
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  Speaker 2: as optional? It seems so.
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  Speaker 5: Let me make one thing very clear. I am not
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  Speaker 5: Daniel Andrews, I am not just Cinter Allen. I will
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  Speaker 5: do things differently.
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  Speaker 2: I think you get it to me, and I'm sure
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  Speaker 2: to you that says that Karen does think the two
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  Speaker 2: previous Labor premiers did lead governments lacking in integrity, and
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  Speaker 2: to that I got to say, no argument from me.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, just look at the claims that those premiers
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  Speaker 2: did bugger all while corrupt union officials and criminals stole
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  Speaker 2: fifteen billion dollars from Labour's pet construction projects. But what
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  Speaker 2: I find hard to accept is that Carol is now
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  Speaker 2: the man we can trust to do things very differently
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  Speaker 2: and to always act with the integrity that those two
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  Speaker 2: previous Labor governments lacked. Trust him, this guy who was
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  Speaker 2: actually a minister under Daniel Andrews and then justin to
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  Speaker 2: Allen's deputy for three years. Not once in those three
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  Speaker 2: years as deputy Premier did I hear Carol publicly demand
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  Speaker 2: his government act with integrity always. Not once did I
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  Speaker 2: hear in publicly demand the Royal Commission into corruption that
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  Speaker 2: is now his first promise as premier. In fact, as
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  Speaker 2: deputy Premier, he twice said a Royal commission would take
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  Speaker 2: too long, costs too much. He went along with the
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  Speaker 2: cover up. So why the big change? The man himself
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  Speaker 2: said it was the Poles. It wasn't an attack of conscience.
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  Speaker 5: Polling says Victoria is on track for Australia's first liberal
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  Speaker 5: one nation government. Our government needs to go in a
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  Speaker 5: new direction on integrity, on community safety and on the economy.
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  Speaker 5: As Premier, I will deliver that new direction.
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  Speaker 2: So Labor decides to act now with integrity only because
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  Speaker 2: it will lose if it doesn't. This is pole driven,
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  Speaker 2: not conscience driven. It's going to act with integrity always
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  Speaker 2: only because one nation is on the rise. Damn that
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  Speaker 2: one nation again. I'm prepared to believe that Carol, the
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  Speaker 2: practicing Catholic, is personally against the corruption that went wild
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  Speaker 2: under the Union dominated governments of Andrews. And I do
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  Speaker 2: think this. But is he a little bit too flexible himself?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, remember that six weeks ago he dragged his
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  Speaker 2: own daughter into an emotional story how he'd he told
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  Speaker 2: her this, how proud he was to support a female
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  Speaker 2: premier and why he would never do exactly what it's
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  Speaker 2: just done, challenge that female premier for her job.
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  Speaker 6: I've got a young daughter at home, and I'm going
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  Speaker 6: to be more proud to make sure she grows up
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  Speaker 6: knowing that I supported Jacinta Allen to be a world
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  Speaker 6: class premier and get re elected in her own rule.
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  Speaker 2: So ways he now portrayed his daughter and broken his word. Well,
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  Speaker 2: journalist ass In that repeated in this press conference after
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  Speaker 2: taking Allen's job, and Carol repeatedly he told him something
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  Speaker 2: that was actually very similar to Anythony Albany is his
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  Speaker 2: excuse for breaking his promise not to change the negative gearing.
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  Speaker 2: You know I've changed my position. Here's Carol's ver.
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  Speaker 5: The truth is, the circumstances changed, the circumstances changed, The
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  Speaker 5: circumstances have changed, the circumstances changed.
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  Speaker 2: Now again again, I repeat that, I'm sure Carol means well,
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  Speaker 2: But here is this problem that explains everything I've just
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  Speaker 2: told you and is a warning against expecting too much
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  Speaker 2: from him. Carol is actually from Labour's right, but the
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  Speaker 2: socialist left. It still has the numbers in Victorian Labor,
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  Speaker 2: just like it has the numbers in Albanize's caucus and
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  Speaker 2: Labour's Federal congrus of whatever it's called. It's labor socialist left.
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  Speaker 2: That is all spend and no earn. It's Labour socialist left.
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  Speaker 2: It is all about identity politics, global warming, evil Israel
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  Speaker 2: and being nice to unions. In fact, this socialist left
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  Speaker 2: has been historically close to the most corrupt construction union
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  Speaker 2: of all the CFMEU. And it's socialist left MPs who
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  Speaker 2: who fought Carol in that shouty, shouty meeting today, So
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  Speaker 2: shady journals outside we're reporting what the hell's going on?
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  Speaker 2: And what could Carol actually do before he became premier
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  Speaker 2: against their power? And what will they let him do? Now?
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  Speaker 2: That's the more interesting question. True, is now premier given
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  Speaker 2: that most of the socialists left realizes you know, well,
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  Speaker 2: he is the government special hope of surviving the November election.
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  Speaker 2: But how long a lesh do you think they'll give
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  Speaker 2: him before the election to make these changes he wants?
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  Speaker 2: And even more importantly, how much will they tighten that
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  Speaker 2: leash if and after he wins. Now you think labor MPs,
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  Speaker 2: the socialist left ones are going to let Carol wind
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  Speaker 2: back their global warming crusade, slash public spending, cut the
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  Speaker 2: public surface. You think he really will be able to
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  Speaker 2: act with integrity always with the very same labor politicians
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  Speaker 2: around him who had no problem with how labor ran
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  Speaker 2: Riot before. Yeah, I'm not even sure. The rest of
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  Speaker 2: Australia realizes how terribly Victoria has been run and how
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  Speaker 2: it's now dragging down the whole country. It's unemployment rate
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  Speaker 2: is now far and away the worst in the country.
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  Speaker 2: It's also so in debt that this governor has already
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  Speaker 2: asked the Obanza government for a bailout that would come
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  Speaker 2: from the other states. It's so I broke that it
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  Speaker 2: can't pay to fix the roads properly. Be careful if
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  Speaker 2: you drive here. That's why my wife has burst three
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  Speaker 2: tires and cracked one wheel rim in just the past
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  Speaker 2: year or two. And why the tire place yesterday told
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  Speaker 2: her that actually had to fix thirty burst tires in
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  Speaker 2: just one day. Then there's the corruption and the crime.
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  Speaker 2: So I had to laugh to hear Cinereland today claim
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  Speaker 2: this success as premiere.
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  Speaker 4: My team and I toughened by a laws, toughened the
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  Speaker 4: bail law.
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  Speaker 2: Just last Sunday, a seventeen year old allegedly slashed two
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  Speaker 2: people and yet another Mashitti attack, very serious injuries. And
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  Speaker 2: this guy out on bail for a previous offense. In fact,
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  Speaker 2: police arrested six uths they thought were involved in that
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  Speaker 2: savage attack. Of those six, four were on bail. Now
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  Speaker 2: there's a new premiere promising to get tougher on corruption
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  Speaker 2: and on crime with an election just four months away,
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  Speaker 2: in almost no time to prove he can deliver. I
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  Speaker 2: was joined a short while ago by James Campbell, National
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  Speaker 2: Weekend political editor for the weekend news court papers around
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  Speaker 2: the country. James Campbell, great to see you again. Look,
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  Speaker 2: Ben Carroll says, no more will integrity be optional under
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  Speaker 2: his government. You know it's going to be tougher on corruption.
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  Speaker 2: It's going to be tougher on crime. If crime and
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  Speaker 2: corruption was such a problem under the Alan government before
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  Speaker 2: this one, and the Andrews government before that, why did he,
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  Speaker 2: his deputy premiere for the last three years, not demand
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  Speaker 2: action before.
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  Speaker 7: Well, that's a very good question, I suspect because it
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  Speaker 7: wasn't in his interest to it at that point. Up
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  Speaker 7: until a few weeks ago, they basically thought that they
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  Speaker 7: could ride this out, and it wasn't really until I
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  Speaker 7: think that became clear that the damage to their primary
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  Speaker 7: vote from Jeffrey Watson's report that was leaked finally saw
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  Speaker 7: the light of day in February wasn't going away, that
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  Speaker 7: this was a permanent problem, that the problem had attached
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  Speaker 7: itself permanently, Jit Cinter Allen, that there was no future
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  Speaker 7: for her with the public. They had made it their
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  Speaker 7: mind up. They thought they could get away with it,
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  Speaker 7: and now when it became clear they couldn't get away
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  Speaker 7: with it, they've suddenly had a kind of a damascene
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  Speaker 7: conversion on the question of corruption, and we're going to
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  Speaker 7: have to We're going to enjoy the site of all
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  Speaker 7: of these labor ministers who were just repeating the old
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  Speaker 7: premier's lines we didn't need a royal commission, enthusiastically repeating
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  Speaker 7: the line that, oh, of course we did, and we've
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  Speaker 7: always thought we did. And that's just that's just the
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  Speaker 7: lemming like way of the labor mp in the modern world.
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  Speaker 2: How embarrassing is going to be all these people had
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  Speaker 2: all those things. I know, we don't need a royal commission.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yes, we do need a royal commission. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: how pathetic. So we've got morals now, integrity is dictated
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  Speaker 2: by the polls. Okay, Now that said, I've got some
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  Speaker 2: sympathy with Ben Carroll. I mean people they know that
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  Speaker 2: know him say he's a good guy, he said, etc.
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  Speaker 2: He seems decent despite having gone along with that and
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  Speaker 2: keeping his trap shut. What does Ben Carroll really like?
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  Speaker 7: Well, I would say, I mean he's a very cautious person.
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  Speaker 7: As I joked earlier Today's I don't think he's ever
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  Speaker 7: started the car without having his seatbelt on. He I
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  Speaker 7: think has been a good education minister. Having kids in
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  Speaker 7: state schools, there's no question that decisions he's taken have
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  Speaker 7: made the schools better. Forcing the teachers union to forcing
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  Speaker 7: the teachers to teach phonics. I mean, the evidence was
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  Speaker 7: clear ten years ago, but the teachers union Victoria didn't
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  Speaker 7: want to do it. He made them do it. He
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  Speaker 7: got rid of all the electronic devices.
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  Speaker 2: Out of classrooms. That's good.
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  Speaker 7: He's getting rid of composite classes and certain at the
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  Speaker 7: lower levels, that's good. I mean, I think he's shown
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  Speaker 7: he can potentially stand up to labor interest groups, right,
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  Speaker 7: and that's all you can hope for in a state government,
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  Speaker 7: in a state labor government, that they will not simply
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  Speaker 7: cave in to unions the way that the last two
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  Speaker 7: premiers have. He hasn't caved into the teachers demands for
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  Speaker 7: money here exorbitant demands for money. So you know, in
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  Speaker 7: the range of options that are available for a state
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  Speaker 7: labor premiere in twenty twenty six, he's pretty much the
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  Speaker 7: best you could really hope for, certainly in Victoria.
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  Speaker 2: Victoria is just such a warning to the rest of Australia.
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  Speaker 2: Is just the extraordinary. Here's the ad that the Liberals
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  Speaker 2: have already rushed out about Ben Carroll.
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  Speaker 8: Well, the face has changed, but the problems we face haven't.
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  Speaker 8: When costs rose and crime swored, he was right there
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  Speaker 8: beside her. Changing leaders won't change Labor, but changing the
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  Speaker 8: government will change Victoria. Jess Wilson and her Liberal team
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  Speaker 8: have the solutions because real change has a plan and
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  Speaker 8: real change is what Victoria needs.
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  Speaker 9: Together, we can give Victoria a fresh start.
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  Speaker 10: Authorized by Alison Hannam, Liberal Party Melbourne.
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  Speaker 2: Now that match up Ben Carroll versus a Liberal leader
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  Speaker 2: who speaks a little bit like an automaton Jess Wilson,
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  Speaker 2: But she might help her make people think she really
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  Speaker 2: is across the figuress just got no passion for anything else.
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  Speaker 2: How do you think that's going to work? Given where
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  Speaker 2: the poles are now, which actually shows not that great
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  Speaker 2: a two party preferred lead to the Liberals, given all
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  Speaker 2: the problems that the labor parties has had.
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  Speaker 7: I think the Liberals are actually in a better space
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  Speaker 7: than the two party preferred Poles give you look like,
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  Speaker 7: because let's face it, for the first time, polses are
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  Speaker 7: trying to grapple with the fact that it's a three
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  Speaker 7: cornered contest. We have a surging one nation Victoria as
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  Speaker 7: everywhere else. I think the Liberals are in better shape
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  Speaker 7: for two reasons. Firstly, because I think the Liberal Party
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  Speaker 7: is ahead sufficiently of one nation that one nation's preferences
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  Speaker 7: are going to end up being distributed rather than the
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  Speaker 7: other way around. And I also think from talking to
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  Speaker 7: polsters that the Liberal Party is going to get the
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  Speaker 7: overwhelming majority of one nation preferences to see a kind
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  Speaker 7: of Greens like preference discipline. You know, the Greens vote
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  Speaker 7: over ninety tens to go to labor. So I think
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  Speaker 7: I think the Liberals are actually better in a better shape.
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  Speaker 2: Than the polls.
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  Speaker 7: The TPP probably suggests this is there's no question though
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  Speaker 7: it's the changing leader does help will help labor?
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  Speaker 2: I think I think it will. I think it will,
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  Speaker 2: but they've only got four months to bet it down.
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  Speaker 2: James Campbell, thank you so much for your ton belave
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  Speaker 2: after they break Matt Canavan and the Prime Minister's plan
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  Speaker 2: for a new fuel refinery, is it real? Angus Taylor,
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  Speaker 2: the Opposition leader, has been named in the corruption here
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  Speaker 2: in that's looking into its New South Wales division of
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  Speaker 2: the Liberal Party. Did he donate money to allege branch
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  Speaker 2: stackers help sign up conservative members. I find it hard
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  Speaker 2: to believe, and there's no evidence that he actually did this.
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  Speaker 2: But here's what went down. This hearing us the spotlight
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  Speaker 2: on the so called Reformers, conservative faction of the Liberals,
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  Speaker 2: including two sons of former Liberal premier Dominic Perrete. And
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  Speaker 2: it was today shown this inquiry a text message which
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  Speaker 2: the factional heir Dallas McNerney claimed to have got a
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  Speaker 2: promise from Angus. That's all it said, for a fifteen
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  Speaker 2: thousand dollars injection fifteen thousand plus a three thousand dollar
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  Speaker 2: monthly donation. But former Liberal staff a Dilar White Law
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  Speaker 2: has said today he also doubted Taylor actually gave that money.
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  Speaker 11: Dallas has told me he got the commitment from Angus
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  Speaker 11: for the fifteen k injection plus a three k monthly donation.
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  Speaker 10: Exclamation mik, yes, I'll say that. I take it. You
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  Speaker 10: don't recall any of this message.
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  Speaker 11: I don't know, and you indicate if you didn't recall
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  Speaker 11: mister Taylor making a financial contribution.
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  Speaker 10: No, this is not something that you'd make up though,
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  Speaker 10: is it, mister Whitelaw. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I would suggest not.
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  Speaker 10: But potentially Dallas had told me something that was incorrect.
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  Speaker 10: I'd be very surprised if mister Taylor made any financial controbation.
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  Speaker 11: He says, because he wants and I quote, to shake
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  Speaker 11: down Angus for ten thousand dollars.
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  Speaker 10: Do you see that?
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: I do?
• 21:19
  Speaker 10: Do you know who the Angus is that mister mcnoney's
• 21:21
  Speaker 10: referring to here. Oh, I would assume it's Angus Taylor.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I doubt Taylor even wanted to help stack branches
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: or that it'd be that stupid. Yeah, I don't know.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: It's a legal but it's a little bit shady. But
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: as he says, let the investigation runs, it doesn't. He hasn't, actually,
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: Denned Danis Taler has not actually denied doing this, but
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: he has said it is not party to the investigation.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: But to our Tuesday regular commentator mc cannavan, now Leader
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: of the Nationals, Matt, great to see you again. I
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: mentioned before the great By the way, Victoria is a
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: new labor premier practicing Catholic, like the new South Wales
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: labor premier, like the South Austrian labor premier. You are
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: a Catholic. The Prime Minister was race Catholic, but that
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: didn't take why are so many political leaders Catholics.
• 22:18
  Speaker 12: I suppose an interesting question, Anthony. I think Catholicism is,
• 22:23
  Speaker 12: if not the most popular region Australia to write up there,
• 22:27
  Speaker 12: so there's a bit of that.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: I can't speak for all those other people.
• 22:30
  Speaker 12: What drew them to politics, So I can only speak
• 22:32
  Speaker 12: for myself, and I've spoken openly. My Catholic faith is
• 22:36
  Speaker 12: part of the reason I think I'm involved in trying
• 22:38
  Speaker 12: to help people. Not long after leaving school, after leaving
• 22:41
  Speaker 12: Catholic education, I met my wife doing Evan Rice camps,
• 22:44
  Speaker 12: helping disadvantaged children through the Christian Brothers. So I've always
• 22:48
  Speaker 12: been drawn I think through that Catholic teaching to try
• 22:51
  Speaker 12: and live up to Jesus Christ's challenge and help others.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: And I try to do that through a political.
• 22:55
  Speaker 12: Endeavor too, to help our community, to stand up for
• 22:58
  Speaker 12: the downtrodden, the ignit. And it's very important to my life.
• 23:02
  Speaker 12: But I can't speak for other people, and I welcome
• 23:07
  Speaker 12: anybody in being involved in politics of all faiths and background.
• 23:10
  Speaker 12: It's a great thing about our country.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Now, the Victorian premier, do you rate him the new one?
• 23:19
  Speaker 12: Look, I've got to be honest, Andrew until a few
• 23:22
  Speaker 12: weeks ago, I'd never heard of the bloke, so.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: I don't really know. But what I can fad them.
• 23:27
  Speaker 12: From up here in Queensland is that the Victoria desperately needs.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: It's a fresh start here.
• 23:33
  Speaker 7: You know.
• 23:34
  Speaker 12: I've said for a few years, somewhat in jest, but
• 23:36
  Speaker 12: it's got a grain of truth to it that I
• 23:38
  Speaker 12: really do want to see the Victorian Gubn change because
• 23:41
  Speaker 12: I don't think Queensland can take another influx of refugees
• 23:44
  Speaker 12: from Victoria. I love his all Andrew and being great
• 23:48
  Speaker 12: additions to our communities up here in regional Queensland since COVID,
• 23:52
  Speaker 12: since the disaster from Dannis Stand. But you know, I
• 23:54
  Speaker 12: want to see Victoria flourish. I think it's important for
• 23:57
  Speaker 12: our nation for Victoria to find its feet again, been
• 24:00
  Speaker 12: going backwards now for a number of years under a.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Failing Labor government.
• 24:03
  Speaker 12: Effectively, this change, this change of leader, shows that even
• 24:06
  Speaker 12: the Victorian Labor Party thinks that Victoria needs change. It'll
• 24:10
  Speaker 12: just be up to the Victorian people decide though about
• 24:12
  Speaker 12: whether just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic is enough.
• 24:17
  Speaker 12: That I didn't know this bloke until a few weeks ago,
• 24:19
  Speaker 12: but he's been part of this mess.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: Obviously.
• 24:21
  Speaker 12: The fact I don't know him probably indicates that he
• 24:23
  Speaker 12: hasn't exactly been speaking are about the mess that's been created.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: He's kind of ab.
• 24:30
  Speaker 12: Served him to stand there. And so I'm not Dan Andrews.
• 24:32
  Speaker 12: I'm not just said to ol and yeah, well I'm
• 24:33
  Speaker 12: not big Bird either. But what has that got anything
• 24:35
  Speaker 12: to do with anything? Victoria needs a real, real change
• 24:40
  Speaker 12: at a fresh start, and I think Jess Wilson's offering
• 24:42
  Speaker 12: that with Danny o'bryen, the Nationals as well.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: Now the Armities. The government seems to have done a
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: good thing about a stress. Seems to have done a
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: good thing, even though it means embracing fossil fuels, which
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: I thought it would never do. It has joined the
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: mis Australian government in promising four million dollars to study
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: weather to help a private Indian company build a big
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: new fuel refinery in Karafa, and that would be our
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: third and the idea is that it'll give us more
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: fuel security because you can crude oil, you can store
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: that for longer than you can petrol. Four million dollars
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: is actually a lot for just a study, but the
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Prime Minister was talking today like the refinery which was
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: actually costs if we went ahead maybe eight billion dollars.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: It was carrying on like it was built already. Listen
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: to this.
• 25:31
  Speaker 13: This is an extraordinary project and example of what Australia
• 25:35
  Speaker 13: can achieve with vision, with optimism, with working between government
• 25:41
  Speaker 13: and the private sector.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: Is a fuel refinery a third one government backed actually
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: a good idea.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: I'd love to say it, Andrew.
• 25:53
  Speaker 12: I'd love to see us use more of our natural resources,
• 25:57
  Speaker 12: hopefully refining austrain or It's not clear exactly where would
• 26:00
  Speaker 12: come from. I'm a bit perplexed that this funding seems
• 26:02
  Speaker 12: to be going to help an Indian overseas company, and
• 26:04
  Speaker 12: I know they're actually Australian Contrausia out there who want
• 26:08
  Speaker 12: to build their own refineries here in Queensland, for example,
• 26:11
  Speaker 12: So I wonder that. I think it's questions to be
• 26:13
  Speaker 12: asked here about how Australian government chose this particular entity.
• 26:16
  Speaker 12: Perhaps over as others have, they opened it up to
• 26:18
  Speaker 12: Australian company. So I'd certainly support that. But the more
• 26:21
  Speaker 12: important conclusion we can make from today, I think it's
• 26:24
  Speaker 12: a very momentous day in Australian politics because today is
• 26:29
  Speaker 12: clearly the death knell to net zero. I mean, how
• 26:31
  Speaker 12: can you have a sensible net zero idea when you're
• 26:34
  Speaker 12: out there saying we should build all refineries as well.
• 26:37
  Speaker 12: I mean, this thing is passed, it's used by date.
• 26:40
  Speaker 12: Net zero has passed, it's used by date long ago,
• 26:43
  Speaker 12: and it should be killed and doubt die now Angus
• 26:46
  Speaker 12: Taylor and I and Liberal Nationals will do that. We will
• 26:49
  Speaker 12: scrap net zero and focusing on all our energy resources.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 26:53
  Speaker 12: The Labor Party and the Promise here playing foot seat,
• 26:56
  Speaker 12: but can you really trust them to do anything. They
• 26:58
  Speaker 12: are in coalition with the means they rely on the
• 27:01
  Speaker 12: Greens to get anything done in the Parliament and they
• 27:04
  Speaker 12: will never go forward and actually build an a refinery
• 27:07
  Speaker 12: that we need. That's why we need a change of
• 27:09
  Speaker 12: government federally as well, because we need to focus again
• 27:12
  Speaker 12: on our natural resources. And I would say too, the
• 27:15
  Speaker 12: final thing I say, Andrew, is it's good enough for
• 27:17
  Speaker 12: us to support in oil refinery, why is it good
• 27:19
  Speaker 12: enough to support coal fired power as well. I mean
• 27:22
  Speaker 12: they're both fossil fuels and we've got a lot we
• 27:24
  Speaker 12: don't have a lot of the oil.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: At least available at this stage easy to get to.
• 27:30
  Speaker 12: We've got heaps at the coal and I was at
• 27:32
  Speaker 12: a coul fire power station at Stanwell, west of Rockhampton
• 27:34
  Speaker 12: with Angus Taylor today.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: We fully back all.
• 27:36
  Speaker 12: Of our natural resources and I think it's about time
• 27:40
  Speaker 12: we have a couple that backs Australia by backing all
• 27:42
  Speaker 12: of our natural resources, to get energy prices down, to
• 27:44
  Speaker 12: get the cost of living down, to save our industrial jobs,
• 27:47
  Speaker 12: and to make sure we can defend this great country
• 27:50
  Speaker 12: of Australia again.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I like the idea of a third oil refinery,
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: but the fact is that we're still dependent on the
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: oil that feeds it. It'll still have to from overseas
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: unless we find more of our own resources here. But
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: just quick the amount of time. But I need to
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: ask you this quickly, Matt talk the Prime Minister going
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: to the mansion of the Sun of a Chinese billionaire
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: last week and accepting a donation variously reported as anywhere
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: from one hundred thousand dollars to one million dollars without
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: telling us how much it was, the circumstances in which
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: it was given, why it was given. Have you got
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: concerns about this?
• 28:32
  Speaker 12: Look all political parties have to raise money and to
• 28:36
  Speaker 12: do so we do go to functions and other things.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Just part we've got to do it. We've got to
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: beat the government.
• 28:42
  Speaker 14: Mate.
• 28:42
  Speaker 12: I need funding to advertise on shows and change our
• 28:46
  Speaker 12: country to put our message out there.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: But the problem here with this one.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Is that there are Chinese billionaires.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: It's the source of this donation exactly, and.
• 28:53
  Speaker 12: The promise didn't seem to understand those issues. His office
• 28:56
  Speaker 12: hadn't done due diligence clearly, and on that environment, I
• 28:58
  Speaker 12: think it'll be best if the Labor Pages didn't accept
• 29:00
  Speaker 12: this money or give it back that has been given.
• 29:02
  Speaker 12: That would help restore some integrity to the.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: Office well, particularly when they goes In has been in
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: a big dispute with the tax office, which is very
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: concerned about the sources of his money. Matt Canavan, thank
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: you so much, indeed for your time to gather and
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: dispute with this. Actually the father of the guy that
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: held that donation meeting. But anyway, there you go after
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: the break Sean Spicer and have communisms come to New
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: York and why that is bad news for Donald Trump,
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: you know, in Britain and Australia, in the US, we
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: are seeing the price of not teaching history or forgetting it,
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: and the price of judging people by what they intend
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: and not what they have achieved, you know, seeming not
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: doing so now that failing, And as a result, we
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: are seeing the rise of socialist leaders thanks to the
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: generation that's forgotten what happen when socialism has been tried.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: In Britain the Greens leader Zach Polanski, for instance. Here
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: the rise of the socialist left of the Avenue, Victorian
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: labor governments and the Greens. But this is happening even
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: in the US, even in New York, home of Wall Street.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: The latest then, the new socialist mayor of New York
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: yesterday announced something straight out of the Soviet Union, as
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: if no one had tried this before, government run shops
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: selling food at government set prices.
• 30:31
  Speaker 15: Here's how it all work. Once a month, our five
• 30:34
  Speaker 15: city run grocery stores will set prices for this core
• 30:37
  Speaker 15: set of goods at thirty percent below typical retail prices,
• 30:41
  Speaker 15: no exceptions, no gimmicks. The savings will last for the
• 30:45
  Speaker 15: entire month.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: That should wipe out local private stores in competition. And
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: who pays for all that? Well, you know where that
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: will go. Joining me earlier was our regular Tuesday commentator
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: Sean Spice, the President on trans First might have spokesman
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: Sean Spice, are great to see you sean government run shops.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, in America, what on earth?
• 31:14
  Speaker 14: Look, I don't know why we're surprised the Democratic Socialists
• 31:18
  Speaker 14: of America have grabbed hold of the Democratic Party. They
• 31:23
  Speaker 14: talk about crazy, outlandish things taking over, abolishing the presidency,
• 31:28
  Speaker 14: getting rid of prisons, abolishing the border.
• 31:31
  Speaker 15: I don't know why.
• 31:33
  Speaker 14: Unfortunately, Andrew that people are now shocked at their latest move.
• 31:36
  Speaker 14: But what I think is more interesting to me, and
• 31:39
  Speaker 14: what I think has got to be careful for folks here,
• 31:41
  Speaker 14: especially in America, is that we don't laugh at off.
• 31:45
  Speaker 14: These folks are intent in moving us to a socialist agenda.
• 31:49
  Speaker 14: They're serious about it. They're gaining steam. They've got a
• 31:53
  Speaker 14: foothold in the Democratic Party, that is the base.
• 31:56
  Speaker 9: Lsied, who is.
• 31:57
  Speaker 14: The leading candidate in Michigan for the Senate there, has
• 32:00
  Speaker 14: made it very clear that if he does win, he
• 32:03
  Speaker 14: will be a major player in trying to influence the
• 32:07
  Speaker 14: next nominee of the Democratic Party and the DNC, the
• 32:10
  Speaker 14: Democratic National Committee has just made Michigan, one of the
• 32:13
  Speaker 14: early states. So it's almost like we can see where
• 32:16
  Speaker 14: the ball is bouncing and the questionnaires.
• 32:18
  Speaker 10: Are we going to do anything to stop it?
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well the thing too, you're talking about takeover. But
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: let's not forget that herm Mandami, the Mandanmi, the mayor
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: of New York City, was actually elected, was actually elected
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: as a far lift crazy and I'm just wondering where
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: this support for socialism is coming from.
• 32:43
  Speaker 14: Absolutely, And look, when you're the mayor of New York,
• 32:47
  Speaker 14: you have an outsized influence on the party. I mean,
• 32:51
  Speaker 14: when this guy says to me, most politicians andrew in
• 32:53
  Speaker 14: America fight for relevance, fight for airtime, fight for the media. Mandami,
• 32:59
  Speaker 14: by the very nature of being Mayor of New York when.
• 33:02
  Speaker 10: He speaks, people listen.
• 33:04
  Speaker 14: And so there is this outsized influence that the Mayor
• 33:06
  Speaker 14: of New York has on the agenda of the Democratic
• 33:10
  Speaker 14: Party and what the left talks about.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's strange. You know, we're talking about how unhinged
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: all this is, and yet there is some grassroots support
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: for this stuff. Like you know, people who have never
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: learned history, never learned about what's happened to socialism, in
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: the past. But it just feeds to the wider thing
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: that you touched on earlier. I mean the left in
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: the US, like the Democrat Party, it does seem unhinged.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: And this goes back even to the Democrats. Candidate for
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: Vice president of the last election, Tim Wals governance state
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: of Minnesota that his government has now helped to fund
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: a university project to distribute doles to schools to children
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: as young as four to help them understand they can
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: change gender, the dolls of detachable and swoppitable genitals and
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: reproductive organs, so the kids can play with all that
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: and experiment with turning a man into a woman and a
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: woman into a man. Supposedly. I thought Donald Trump was
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: winning this war and welcome. Then I read this and
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: thinking where's America going?
• 34:18
  Speaker 14: You know, you bring up a really good point, because
• 34:20
  Speaker 14: for a while I was with you, I made the
• 34:23
  Speaker 14: argument that we were finally turning the page on the
• 34:26
  Speaker 14: woke DEI ideology that you know, four years ago people
• 34:30
  Speaker 14: were literally getting in trouble for not using someone's pronouns,
• 34:33
  Speaker 14: for not agreeing that men could be women and have children.
• 34:37
  Speaker 14: I mean, it was absurd, It defied science. I don't
• 34:41
  Speaker 14: know what's happening right now, but there's a resurgence of it.
• 34:43
  Speaker 14: And that's the interesting thing. But here's the broader point
• 34:46
  Speaker 14: that you're touching on. When I first got into politics,
• 34:50
  Speaker 14: granted it was thirty years ago, and you attacked a
• 34:53
  Speaker 14: Democrat and you accused them of being liberal, they thought
• 34:57
  Speaker 14: that was an attack, right, They'd say, that's just where
• 35:00
  Speaker 14: we're moderate, we're pragmatic, we're not liberal. Now they embrace it,
• 35:05
  Speaker 14: they welcome it. They in fact don't hide from it.
• 35:08
  Speaker 14: These folks that are Democratic Socialists of America's candidates and
• 35:12
  Speaker 14: advocates get out there very proudly and own that label.
• 35:17
  Speaker 14: They want to be seen as this. And I got
• 35:19
  Speaker 14: to be honest with you, I like you, am very
• 35:22
  Speaker 14: concerned about where we're going when we think that's a positive,
• 35:27
  Speaker 14: winning agenda. You know, politics, sometimes you have a hidden agenda.
• 35:30
  Speaker 14: You want a campaign as a moderate or a pragmatist,
• 35:32
  Speaker 14: and then you wait until you get an office to
• 35:34
  Speaker 14: really kind of tell people where you are. These guys
• 35:36
  Speaker 14: are very proud of this agenda, and that scares me
• 35:38
  Speaker 14: more than anything.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Ye, but I wonder whether they're getting confident because the
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: poles are showing Donald Trump is now very unpopular, so
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: the heat is off them to try to, you know,
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: move to the right, showe to speak. Maybe they're thinking
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: this is the way to go. What is the what
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: is the cause of this pole's slump for Donald Trump?
• 35:58
  Speaker 14: Do you think, Well, I think you're bringing up something,
• 36:02
  Speaker 14: which is are we just hitting an inflection point where
• 36:05
  Speaker 14: they sense there's a weakness because Trump is involved in
• 36:09
  Speaker 14: the war and this issue of affordability and costs and
• 36:12
  Speaker 14: they sense a resurgence or are they catching us at
• 36:16
  Speaker 14: a blind spot or of Americans Actually kind of thought,
• 36:18
  Speaker 14: maybe there's not that many problems with this agenda. I'm
• 36:22
  Speaker 14: not sure yet. I got to believe in my heart
• 36:24
  Speaker 14: of heart that these guys are going to go too far.
• 36:26
  Speaker 14: You remember, the key ad in the last campaign was
• 36:29
  Speaker 14: when Donald Trump came out and said they're for them,
• 36:32
  Speaker 14: they not for you.
• 36:34
  Speaker 11: And I do still.
• 36:36
  Speaker 14: In my bones believe that this agenda is not something
• 36:40
  Speaker 14: that the average American supports. I think they have some
• 36:43
  Speaker 14: degree of support in in large urban city kind of places,
• 36:47
  Speaker 14: but not in the rest of America.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Well, I I think you run into something he is
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: showing because what I don't see is even if you
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: didn't like the president, he's not going to And again
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: on the Humes, let's say it inherit As Vance or
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: Marco Rubio, who I devoutly hue will be the man,
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: but one of them. The problem is, even if you
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: don't like them, it is hard right now to see
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: anyone on the lift on the Democrat side who's an
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: adult and saying who could yet run for president? Who
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: do you see as being the threat there?
• 37:26
  Speaker 14: Well, so here's an interesting point over the weekend, and
• 37:28
  Speaker 14: I mentioned this in terms of the Michigan in the
• 37:31
  Speaker 14: early States, the Democratic National Committee put out its list
• 37:33
  Speaker 14: of early states, those states that will determine the kickoff
• 37:37
  Speaker 14: of the primary season. They put South Carolina at the
• 37:40
  Speaker 14: front of that line, I think for a very intentional reason,
• 37:43
  Speaker 14: because some of the other states lent themselves to some
• 37:48
  Speaker 14: of these socialist candidates and some of these whackadoudal ideas.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: So I think that there was.
• 37:53
  Speaker 14: A very intentional play by the DNC to help mitigate
• 37:58
  Speaker 14: that or at least blunt it, because I do think
• 38:01
  Speaker 14: that they see that coming. And that's the problem is
• 38:04
  Speaker 14: that they think and they see that that's unelectable. I
• 38:06
  Speaker 14: brought up Michigan earlier. I think there's a reason that
• 38:10
  Speaker 14: all of the establishment folks are getting behind this current
• 38:13
  Speaker 14: Congresswoman Haley Stevens because they feel like this guy, Abdul
• 38:17
  Speaker 14: l Sieed will definitely cost them the seat. So they're
• 38:21
  Speaker 14: seeing what we're talking about. They recognize that this is
• 38:24
  Speaker 14: not a good place for their party to be writ large,
• 38:27
  Speaker 14: and definitely not in a national election.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Sean Spicicer is great to talk to you. Thank you
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: so much for your time, you.
• 38:34
  Speaker 14: Bet, and congratulations on the relaunch.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: After the break, the latest ABC scandal deepens. You know
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: that film It showed and defended fantasizing about sundomizing Gina
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: rhin Hatt. It was made by film Mike and the
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: ABC Heart after she filmed herself twerking to the last post.
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  Speaker 2: Is the abacy really that deprived? I'll show you fatomer payment.
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  Speaker 2: She was elected as a Labor Senator. She's now an independent.
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  Speaker 2: She has posted a video of herself on a social
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  Speaker 2: media account talking about the victims of the Bundai massacre.
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  Speaker 2: You know Muslims. Muslim victims.
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  Speaker 3: The Bondai tragedy shocked our entire nation. In the months
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  Speaker 3: that followed, many Australians experienced fear in different ways. Jewish
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  Speaker 3: Australians saw a disturbing rise in anti semitism. Muslim Australians
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  Speaker 3: continued to face the reality of Islamophobia.
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  Speaker 2: Now what is Islamophobia in this context? Thy wonder, is
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  Speaker 2: it a reasonable hatred of radical Islam or a well
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  Speaker 2: founded concern? A good question. After first, the Muslim extremist
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  Speaker 2: than Berlin, the son of Lebanese immigrants, drove a van
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  Speaker 2: on the weekend into a gay rarey, murdering one person
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  Speaker 2: and then jumped out, stabbing more people. And then yesterday
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  Speaker 2: in Paris a man stabbed three women, saying Allah had
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  Speaker 2: commanded him to kill them a.
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  Speaker 16: Doo ado.
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  Speaker 2: Now we're told that this unknown man is mentally ill,
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  Speaker 2: and we don't know if he actually is Muslim himself,
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  Speaker 2: although something clearly made him associate Islam with killing, joined
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  Speaker 2: me Mierschliff, the executive director of the Samuel Griffith Society,
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  Speaker 2: and Michael Danby, former Federal Labor politician and former chairman
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  Speaker 2: of the Joint Standing Committee Foreign Affairs, Defense and Trade.
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  Speaker 2: Michael Senter to Payment's comments, Bondai triggered islamophobia. Think of
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  Speaker 2: the Muslims.
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  Speaker 17: Your response, well, fifteen innocent Australians were gunned down on
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  Speaker 17: the beach at Bondai just in December, and now we
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  Speaker 17: have a senator trying to.
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  Speaker 16: Steal their honor. It's like trying to kill them twice
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  Speaker 16: claiming it for someone else. It's not justified at all.
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  Speaker 16: The incredible Surgeon anti Semitism continues as being demonstrated at
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  Speaker 16: the Royal Commission at this very moment angrew while in
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  Speaker 16: the post Bondi situation when things should become a Senator
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  Speaker 16: Payment should just keep silent.
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  Speaker 2: Emir.
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  Speaker 18: Look, Senator Payment has a history of just making a
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  Speaker 18: pathetic comments such as these. I mean, her response to
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  Speaker 18: the murder of Charlie Kirk was quite disturbing. She was
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  Speaker 18: also found about a year ago she made comments praising
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  Speaker 18: Iran for the treatment of women, which he then had
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  Speaker 18: to go back and apologize. So I'm disappointed that these
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  Speaker 18: comments were made, but I'm not shocked because she continuously
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  Speaker 18: just makes completely out of pocket comments such as these.
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  Speaker 18: But I do think we are seeing a growing trend
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  Speaker 18: where Islamophobia is thrown around some kind of catchual to
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  Speaker 18: any criticism of Islam.
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  Speaker 9: Now there is let's.
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  Speaker 18: Very clear about what a phobia actually is. It's an
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  Speaker 18: irrational fear. Now drawing the trend that there is a
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  Speaker 18: growing number of crimes that seemed to have been driven
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  Speaker 18: by some religious grounding in Islamic text, that's not Islamophobia,
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  Speaker 18: and this idea that Islam is somehow beyond criticism, whilst
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  Speaker 18: other religions such as Christianity aren't. Well, that's deeply troubling.
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  Speaker 2: I agree with that well, said Michael. I have been
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: appalled that the ABC screened a short film by a
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  Speaker 2: contestant on its Race around the World program. I showed
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  Speaker 2: it last week again this week, a film that the
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: producers had seen and chose to put to air, fantasizing
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  Speaker 2: about sodomizing mining billionaire Gene Arona and turning her guts
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  Speaker 2: into paste. Now the ABC management not only didn't you know,
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  Speaker 2: didn't just defend that film said oh yeah, it was
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  Speaker 2: just irony, It's okay in ABC guidelines, which absolutely astonishes me.
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  Speaker 2: It actually picked and we now learn it picked that
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  Speaker 2: same filmmaker to do that show and make those films
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  Speaker 2: after she had already filmed herself. Twerking to the last post.
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  Speaker 1: Have looked.
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  Speaker 2: Michael Danban the ABC thought there's a talent for.
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  Speaker 16: Us on either occasion. She's not funny. She is, in
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  Speaker 16: that description of missus Reinhart, depraved as you described her earlier.
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  Speaker 16: And mister Williams and mister Marx, have you no sense
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  Speaker 16: of shame that these people appear on our one point
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  Speaker 16: three billion dollar tax bayer funded network takes action? Set
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  Speaker 16: the editor who put that to where and the fool
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  Speaker 16: who commissioned.
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  Speaker 2: It, Meer Schliff. The ABC standards does it have any now?
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  Speaker 18: No, Andrew, it doesn't seem to be. I mean I
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  Speaker 18: can continuously surprised by the ABC because every single time
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  Speaker 18: I think this is the worst thing that could possibly
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  Speaker 18: come from our national broadcaster, the next week there's something
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  Speaker 18: that's even more terrible. I mean, I think the ABC
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  Speaker 18: on this occasion really does have to answer whether they
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  Speaker 18: knew about this particular filmmaker's history, because to be there
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  Speaker 18: dancing twerking to the last post, really, I mean, the
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  Speaker 18: ABC has a bit of a history with hiring individuals
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  Speaker 18: that are peddling this anti Australian rhetoric. Was Laura Tingle
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  Speaker 18: who was calling Australia a racist country, and I certainly
• 44:48
  Speaker 18: think it's a huge problem that we seem to have
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  Speaker 18: this national funded broadcaster who doesn't even support Australia. But look,
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  Speaker 18: I just think the ABC is beyond saving. I think
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  Speaker 18: it's appalling that they haven't removed the video with those
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  Speaker 18: remarks being made about missus Ryan Hart. And I think
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  Speaker 18: it's even more appalling that even further information has come
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  Speaker 18: out about this particular individual. And I do think they
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  Speaker 18: have many, many, many questions to answer.
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  Speaker 2: I can't wait for the next Senate Estimate's hearing with
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  Speaker 2: the chairman or the managing director with Liberals cross examining
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  Speaker 2: if they've I hope they're going really hard because this
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  Speaker 2: is just disgraceful. A new change of premiere in your
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: home state, Michael in Victoria. Is it a good move
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  Speaker 2: and win the Labor Party the next selection?
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  Speaker 16: It won't unless Paul ben I knew him well. He's
• 45:44
  Speaker 16: like Rudd. He's being used to save the furniture. The
• 45:47
  Speaker 16: socialist left out in the outer suburbs of Melbourne hope
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  Speaker 16: that there'll be a swing of of only ten percent,
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  Speaker 16: not twelve percent, and that they'll be kept in their
• 45:58
  Speaker 16: jobs by two percent. So my only fear is Andrew.
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  Speaker 16: I think there's going to be a big swing one
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  Speaker 16: nation's the Ghost Party is probably going to give the
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  Speaker 16: Liberals preferences. But I'm worried that you'll just get to
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  Speaker 16: the edge of slipping out of power and the three
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  Speaker 16: or four Greens will go into coalition with them. So
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  Speaker 16: I'm sorry to be a fear full of fear, but
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  Speaker 16: I think we could have a worse result than we've
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  Speaker 16: got now, a worse government.
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  Speaker 2: Mate, there's no need to scare the children like that.
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  Speaker 2: Me and Schlief, what did you think of this? Win
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  Speaker 2: Labor the next selection?
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  Speaker 18: Oh look, if this is going to be the saving
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  Speaker 18: grace for the Labor Party here in Victoria, then we're
• 46:46
  Speaker 18: going to need to see a far more impressive performance
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  Speaker 18: than what we saw from Ben Carrell today.
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  Speaker 9: I mean, I was entirely underwhelmed.
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  Speaker 18: The problem that the Victorian Labor Party is dealing with
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  Speaker 18: is their brand, authenticity and trust in the Victorian Labor Party.
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  Speaker 9: And the solution to that is to put up.
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  Speaker 18: The guy who just a week ago was using his
• 47:05
  Speaker 18: daughter as the shield to say that he wouldn't roll
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  Speaker 18: just inter Allen, and in the next moment he's doing
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  Speaker 18: that exact thing. So whether he really is the hallmark
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  Speaker 18: of integrity, which is now posing himself to be.
• 47:18
  Speaker 9: I'm not sure this is going to go very.
• 47:20
  Speaker 18: Well for the Labor Party because they'll also run into
• 47:22
  Speaker 18: the second issue. If he wants to start saying all right,
• 47:24
  Speaker 18: this is a new day for the Labor Party and
• 47:26
  Speaker 18: will now have some integrity, he has to admit that
• 47:29
  Speaker 18: he was part of the team that was peddling whole
• 47:33
  Speaker 18: bunch of mismanagement and corruption scandals. So either he was
• 47:36
  Speaker 18: all right with it at the time and now he
• 47:38
  Speaker 18: is not, or he wasn't all right with it, and
• 47:41
  Speaker 18: he can play out a complete inability of standing up
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  Speaker 18: against that corruption.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 18: Neither of those really look like election winning slogans to me.
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  Speaker 2: No, it doesn't. And also, Michael said, you know, this
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  Speaker 2: government very heavy emphasis and like the last couple, you know,
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  Speaker 2: won't make it integrity disposable. You know, it's going to
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: be constant. Well asked to explain. You know, when he
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: tried to explain why he had this view now, he
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: said the polls, the poles. Seriously, couldn't he at least
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: said it's my Catholic conscience or something.
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  Speaker 16: Yeah, that would have been better. Andrew, I'm sorry, I've
• 48:22
  Speaker 16: always regarded people in state politics as the B team,
• 48:26
  Speaker 16: and his performance wasn't great. I think the gado tax
• 48:30
  Speaker 16: and the machete fights and the potholes are finally going
• 48:35
  Speaker 16: to get them. Really, if a government's so poor was
• 48:38
  Speaker 16: to survive, you would hardly believe it. But then again
• 48:42
  Speaker 16: it did last time with the bloke who's now hanging
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  Speaker 16: out at the Mandalai Mansion in Sydney when he was premier.
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  Speaker 2: There you are. Yeah, absolutely meschi for me, Michael Danby,
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  Speaker 2: thank you very much to you bad That's it for me,
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  Speaker 2: coming up next, Sherry Mason. Goodnighte